One thing I'm sure, Hoshi confirmed in the MV behind, that they're in the Neverland. I guess carats' peter pan theories were correct. I also think this song and mv goes something about the pain of growing, which some of us fears, wonwoo was also reading in there titled 'growing pains'. In which is a key element on the story of Peter Pan. At the first half, they're in a bright atmosphere only experiencing happiness, but then when they discovered they don't have shadows that's when it started to go bad. U can also notice during the 'happy' parts the clock is stopped. But once they all discovered that they don't have shadows (hence their fears), the time moved again. U can see the changes starting with scoups & woozi having shadows. Vernon was the first one to discover their situation, u can see on the first part where he's lying, the bird has a shadow but when he tried to stretch his hands to shade his face he didn't had any shadow, u may also see the ground eating up the broken road where he is lying, before the 'darling' title came out. jun also discovered the painting on the wall, carats' think that it might be the albums that will be released by svt this year. the middle & dark one would be for the May full album comeback, hoshi also mentioned in an interview that the cb would be hot & passionate so... darkteen it is😆 lastly for wonwoo, one of the theory that makes sense to me as I read carats' post on twt, he is already aware abt what is gonna happen, if you can remember past svt mvs (oh my, getting closer, fear etc) wonwoo was always the one who's like seeing something or controlling something (idk😅) . They said there's always something in his eyes, if u may take a closer look you'll see wonwoo is wearing a broken glasses, but he didn't wear it right when he was hesitant to enter the chapel with the boys (i also saw a carat said, that maybe, he was hesitant, because he already new that something bad will happen) that's it, that's all i collected after reading theories from carats😆
just to add regarding wonwoo's broken eyeglass, his eyeglass has a band aide which symbolizes innocence and youth so his line "don't wanna say goodbye" makes sense that he don't want to let go of that happy, fun, innocent boyhood but we all witnessed that they all fall into the real world at the end. I hope I make sense about this. Btw, I always love your reaction you both!
Carats theories that darling was peterpan-inspired like they are peterpan and carats are wendy, all these teddy bear from the lost boys in peterpan and the fairy dust, also wendy's surname is darling 😭 i think its like the svt knows that someday carats will all grow up just like wendy who had her own family 🥺💖 Looks like we will be a having darkteen era on the next comeback 😭🔥💖
You two analyzing and being confused with the story and message that svt was trying to convey through the mv was a great representation of carats in caratland after watching the mv 😭 Everyone was like "Wth are they try'na say?" "We don't get it svt" "Well lemme just say one thing, Dark and Sexyteen is back" and all of these theories and speculations popping up 😭✋
What they were freaking out about is that if you look close the flower's shadow is shown, but shua's hand's shadow can't be seen. also i saw on twitter that it is a peter pan concept.
Joshua pouring a bucket of water on himself and taking a shower with his clothes still on while standing inside the bathtub was a spoiler all this time. I swear to god this boys are literally dropping what WE think is the most random thing ever then it ends up being a spoiler 🥲
Omg! I just realized that wonwoo is portraying John. Wendy's brother, the one with the glasses. That's why he is aware of what's going to happen even if he "don't want to say goodbye" to the happiness of youth that they're experiencing in Neverland.
I’m so glad you guys picked up all the little things that took me a couple watches to get, and then some! Definitely Peter Pan vibes with the no shadows and time stopping (the clocks). Then adulthood hit like a ton of bricks. But I’m not smart enough either 🤣🤣. I just know we’re getting a dark concept and if it’s ANYTHING like Fear, I will levitate 😭
Hoshi dropped the glass because they realized Joshua (none of them) have a shadow and they realize they were in a fantasy. Once they realize, the pin that was stopping the clock from ticking breaks, and time resumes and they have to face the reality that they cant live in Neverland forever. Then they fall down into Dreamcatcher land and both groups have to fight each other Hunger Games style.
I think it's like Neverland. They escape reality (growing pain) and likely forget that they are in a dream or an imaginary world. *First of all* -The first scene where Vernon raised his hand above his face, there was no hand shadow. and the ground below collapsed He was therefore the first to know that this was not the real world. -The next scene has a clock that has been stopped by a pin. (They might be do it) like they don't want to grow -Wonwoo has cracks in his glasses??? - Notice some scenes, everyone is shadowless -The next scene is the scene where everyone plays happily. *In real life of the members before their debut. They were playing paint in the green room(practice room)* - having fun until Vernon ran in. Vernon tells about the shadows and the world they live in. He threw flowers to Joshua. Joshua experiments by thrusting the flower into the light. The flower has a shadow, but Vernon pulls his hand slightly. So everyone saw that Joshua had no shadow. -In the shadow it says "belief real remember" -Hoshi drops a vase with daisies falling. The vase was shattered. *Daisy means innocence* Maybe it meant his innocence that he had no more (began to grow) and he also picked up a shard of glass. causing his finger to be cut to the point of bleeding. (Know the pain) - Jun removed the wall until he found a wall painting depicting the moments in this MV. There are happy moments and knowing the truth discover a church that will take you to the real world. until the world of imagination collapses But… the next picture is not in the MV. IT MIGHT BE A SPOILER THE ALBUM IN MAY!!!! -Jun looked at the sun(wall painting) and found a box in a tub of water full of clocks (They might be do it ? as if trying to stop time). The box had the same sun sign on the wall. Could it be the key to another world? Or it tell the truth? - In the next scene, everyone starts searching for the truth. until I came across a church that looks like a wall painting They opened the door and walked in. Butttttt! Wonwoo stopped and said “don't wanna say goodbye” (he doesn't want to leave here. Perhaps Wonwoo was someone who first known about the other world. and don't want to go back) -Everyone plays the game. There are people who close their eyes and have to catch others. but next scene,when open eyes. Something has changed and there is no one. -Seungkwan walks in a hall. with the audience being a teddy bear (Referring to childhood?) He’s start singing but he’s look again. That the hall looked gloomy. - S.coup opens his eyes to saw reality. and his shadow returned -Woozi wipes the paint on his face (knows the truth and chooses to leave his childhood memories behind) and wipes the mirror, his shadow return. -The smiley face on the wall translates to tears? Jeonghan saw a smiling face on the mirror that seemed to have been obscured (They might be do it? to avoid the perception of another world). He brushed off the dust and saw himself in another world. that looks different from him -The8 seems to have reached another world connection door. -Jun saw the other him through the glass that separated them. They touched their hands and the glass shattered. -The pin that stopped time fell off (Growth has begun) -Everyone entered the church. Everyone saw their shadow and Their bodies looked fuzzy. (Saw the truth) -Joshua looks at Joshua in another world that upside down. - Vernon stood holding a light in his hand. To cast a shadow that makes everyone see the shadow (the truth) and said “kiss me baby” (like Snow White that must be kissed in order to wake up from the poison) as if saying that he had woken up from a dream - Everyone's bodies started to crumble. The imaginary world collapsed. -There is a scene of a solar eclipse in Wonwoo's eyes. But when the world collapses It was gone - everyone returned to the real world where everything had collapsed. They have traces of wounds. and a confused face
I was lost in appreciation for how insanely good the aesthetics is and with everything that was happening lol 🧐 all I know is I'm soooo excited for what's coming next cuz a follow up to this is gonna EAT!!!! + jeon wonwoo in this 🗣️ it's him, that's the man
So happy to see your reaction, was waiting for this and yesssssssss I'm excited. I cannot wait for darkteen for the next title track, they're gonna look so good and the song is gonna be fire I already know :)
Seventeen is not known for having lore, but there are theories about hidden lore in their discography and Wonwoo is usually the rage destructive personality and they try to "compress"(?) him(Fallin Flower, Heaven and now Darling) But that's as far as I know lmao
But if we don’t focus too much on wonwoo, there are also other members who fits this narrative in their MVs. I think they had a lore during 2017-early 2019 but they ended it, that one has more Alice in Wonderland in it with a bits of Peterpan, i saw from kcarats tweets that the person who helped build the worldview left Pledis in 2019 since we never saw any hints of continuation of it in their teasers, films & MVs since Home era.
I'm so glad you guys finally got to react to it ! This MV is so freaking beautiful, I can't but it into words, like the colors, the vibes, everything seems so fine and pretty but you kinda see that something is not quite right and then BOOM, upside down... I ain't smart either but they are a lot of theories, I only noticed the whole shadow things (that they don't have on actually at the beginning and then they start having it)... The choreo is the cutest thing on earth . But yeah ut definitely tease something darker for the album...kinda happy to get a storyline ike that it's always fun !
I really like Chan & Eisa's part 😍Can't wait for Darkteen😉 I can't imagine Esosa's reaction be like 😁 Btw, there's always clocks and sunflowers in their MVs (since Oh My era??)
Hoshi confirmed that this is a Peter Pan reference..the song darling also represents us carats n the darling siblings. I may not be correct everywhere.. But here r some clues 1:51 this is their neverland home where they are living.. Their fantasy 2:05 notice the 🕒...its not moving.. Meaning, they don't age 2:09 no shadow of Vernon's hand.. No reflection on his face 2:10 the ground/land is sliding.. Because Vernon realised the truth that they are not living in reality so their world is breaking 2:53 fun fact: now we check compatibility bonds through zodiac signs n stuffs but before they check personalities through blood types etc n it's out of trend.. So it was one of woozi's cute mistakes cos he was unaware it changed. 3:04 I heard the 🐻 was also a reference from Peter Pan.. Idk n woozi put a charger in the Teddy's heart which is shown as a ♥ shaped indicating something deeper which I'm not sure about.. Like giving life? Since they're technically not living nor death cos they are not in the real world 3:10 Vernon closed all the curtains.. Not allowing light to enter cos of their shadows appearing(?) it has a dark meaning n I'm not sure. 3:18 notice the light passing through their hands but their shadow reflection not showing on the floor? N they were shocked ruining their innocence n realising they're not living in reality 3:34 u could see his blood turning from red to black (that's when it all went downhill folks :)) 3:35 Jun peeling the wall n seeing another layer.. Realizing everything was fake n them living in fantasy 4:01 S.Coups was happy here but then 4:18 he was all alone.. Representing Peter Pan when the lost boys n the darling siblings left him n escaped to the real world living him all alone 4:29 woozi wiped the mirror n started showing his reflection too which was not there in the first place n when he realized we can see his shadow on the floor slowly appearing on the next scene we can see the smily face changing looking like its tearing up. Their neverland home breaking apart. 2:16 the 🕒 here shown wasn't moving but in 5:05 it started ticking.. When everyone realized n them going to reality. 5:11 the thing Vernon is holding represents the fairy, Tinkerbell in Peter Pan 5:42 somewhere in the left corner there's a pink banner (I think) written "fear is coming" giving us clues that their next album might be in a more darker concept continuing the story line. There's many more clues which I'm not sure about like the books they're holding in the beginning n Jun holding a mysterious box n when wonwoo stopped when everyone strive forward, not entering the "world" behind the door n manyyyyy more so ya.. Correct me if I'm wrong. Isn't it crazy how in the surface the mv looks soft, happy n self-healing summer vibes but when u dig further n look up the real meaning it's a lot darker than you think.
How I explain this MV to people: "Look....so it looks like such a bright MV...but there's something wrong.... Okay pause...what's written on the floor? REAL FEAR! Notice something else?! HE HAS NO SHADOW!!! They all don't have shadows!!!.... And Cheol was.just playing with the members but he removes his blindfold AND HE'S ALL ALONE!!!! Look, they get back their shadows one by one. Now look at Jeonghan...he looks perfectly normal, but look at his reflection after he wipes the mirror! THAT'S DARK JEONGHAN!!! Now looks at them start to slowly crumble.... WOOHOO!!! Now they get pulled into a dark alternate universe!!!! Now we wait for the comeback this May to find out what happens to them!!!
oh my i got legit goosebumps when u guys caught that fear and i was like THERE’S SHOWED FEAR THERE GUYS PLEASE NOTICE IT and then you notice that hahaha mission complete
Yeah...I thought d same too when the front Darl+ing was reased I read it as Dark+ing 🤭 and yes perhaps they will b have a Darking song in this upcoming length album
Thank you for reacting to Darl+ing!! Your reactions are always super fun to watch. And you're so quick in picking up these little details too, and your theories are all plausible!! Took me a few rewatch to see those little details lol. The Fear +ing is so smart, didn't even notice that! What if the word with -ing was hidden so it would look like that? Like Fear is "ongoing/happening." In an article, Cheol also said that this album will showcase their most genuine feelings and emotions, so maybe they will share their fears (and hopefully, happiness) here? Like Fear and Trauma pt. 2 lol. (Btw, the book Josh was reading in the first part (the one in Korean) apparently means "A Shadowless Day." ANOTHER SHADOW HINT what is this)
In my own interpretation of the MV, they are talking about take care the planet, the grass scene, the bright moments of the mv, the worry moments that are in the second verse and finally the dark scene, for me is a no long future of the planet. I know is a little bit late to comment this, but i just watch the MV.
We talk the most when English teacher overanalyzing the shit out of something but we be doing the same for our idol lmao. We never rest with them spoilers and clue. The clown of us 😂
At 10:54 when you guys were talking about the flower and stuff. Joshua doesn't have a shadow and he's holding the flower in the sunlight. Their shadows are missing.
shadows grow up because they realize that this world is Neverland. Vernon was the first person to notice that they had no shadow (The first scene in the music video where a bird's shadow appears even when Vernon covers the sky with his hand) I really like you guys reactions😂
Add: accdg to kcarats, seems like wonwoo was aware of everything but he didn’t let the other boys know. He was the first one to remove the blindfold (first one to discover that the world they’re in isn’t “real”), at the beginning his glasses is broken & has bandaid to cover it like he’s covering the truth he discovered. he sang the lines of “don’t wanna say goodbye” too, he knows that when they seek where the sun is guided by the compass (when they enter the red door), their happy world will crumble. I feel like the Sun is Carats tho. Like they’re anticipating to meet us physically (dialing, and “kiss me baby” line which requires you to be there physically with the person), but because they don’t have shadows in that world, rhey figured that world isn’t real & they won’t meet us there, so they try to find us (the sun) by following the compass they found hinted by the wall painting Jun found. They found the sun , the thing Vernon was holding. What i don’t get is they seem to trapped after following it. I don’t know if the time stopping refers to pandemic. And the trap is their online concert /events after doing it for 4/5 times, where they struggle not having carats in the audience. The dialling thing is them meeting carats aka Caratland which started the TEAM SVT ERA. “+” means they’re still in the process of reuniting with the carats.
@@unicatofficial3375 The reason why time stopped is simple. Look at Hoshi putting his watch in the water, and there are many watches in the pool, also the hands of the watch are fixed. They are afraid of growth.( The title of Wonwoo and Seungchul's book) They stop their watches on their own and go to Neverland, but soon realize that they have to grow up and go looking for the sun. The sun has many meanings including the carats you mentioned!
This is just a thought that came across my mind when i was watching the mv and reading theories, but regarding wonwoo and the sun stuff.. This is probably a bit far fetched but wonwoo's zodiac sign is cancer of which the ruling planet is the moon. Based on that we can kind of connect that to the music video, which i believe shows an eclipse overlapping with wonwoo towards the end.. Another interesting thing is that he is actually a leo in moon and mercury based on his birth charts (ruling planet sun) Aw man im not even all that into astrology, but just thought this could maybe somehow connected HAHAHA
accdg to kcarats, seems like wonwoo was aware of everything but he didn’t let the other boys know. He was the first one to remove the blindfold (first one to discover that the world they’re in isn’t “real”), at the beginning his glasses is broken & has bandaid to cover it like he’s covering the truth he discovered. he sang the lines of “don’t wanna say goodbye” too, he knows that when they seek where the sun is guided by the compass (when they enter the red door), their happy world will crumble. I feel like the Sun is Carats tho “into your heat i’m always diving”. We all know Darling is Carats. Like they’re anticipating to meet us physically (911 calling > dialling you, darling you, baby > “kiss me baby” line which requires you to be there physically with the person), but because they don’t have shadows in that world, rhey figured that world isn’t real & they won’t meet us there, so they try to find us (the sun) by following the compass they found hinted by the wall painting Jun found. If you watch their ring ceremony, in the narration Joshua refers the Sun as Carats. They found the sunlight thing, Vernon was holding it in the MV, then their shadows appeared & the time start ticking. What i don’t get is they seem to trapped after following it, i’m still not sure what are they trying to say in that scene at the last part of the MV. I don’t know if the time stopping refers to pandemic. And the trap is their online concert /events while they were glad it was an option despite not seeing us physically, after doing it for 4/5 times, they started struggling not having carats in the audience. The dialling thing is them meeting carats, finally in Caratland which started the TEAM SVT ERA. “+” means they’re still in the process of reuniting with the us. There could be double title track (3 if Darling is included). 1st title track about their dark times (i feel like they’re gonna talk about their emotions during the pandemic, their worries & vulnerability) in the first MV they’ll release along with the album. Then release the last MV shortly after. Why do i think there could be more than 1 MV? It’s because of that wall painting, the last illustration is them meeting the sun & it’s all bright after going thru the dark universe. If it’s not an MV, then it’s definitely a film or teaser for their world tour! That’ll complete the storyline
I’m not sure about this, but it’s not impossible for them to have aspects from Alice in Wonderland / Through the Looking Glass, in the next MV. In Darl+ing, it’s like they fell into some sort of rabbit hole, and used glasses/mirrors to figure things out with their shadows. While Neverland is an eternal-lasting place where you don’t age, Alice in Wonderland is an opposite of that. “In Alice in Wonderland, unlike other fairy tales, the story represents a child's true progression through life, their struggle to survive in the confusing world of adults”
I think if member alone, real world we can see (shadow growing) but if them together world so happy and beautiful. So wonwoo say “dont wanna say goodbye” ! Lol over all its my theory 😂😂 sorry
One thing I'm sure, Hoshi confirmed in the MV behind, that they're in the Neverland. I guess carats' peter pan theories were correct.
I also think this song and mv goes something about the pain of growing, which some of us fears, wonwoo was also reading in there titled 'growing pains'. In which is a key element on the story of Peter Pan. At the first half, they're in a bright atmosphere only experiencing happiness, but then when they discovered they don't have shadows that's when it started to go bad. U can also notice during the 'happy' parts the clock is stopped. But once they all discovered that they don't have shadows (hence their fears), the time moved again. U can see the changes starting with scoups & woozi having shadows. Vernon was the first one to discover their situation, u can see on the first part where he's lying, the bird has a shadow but when he tried to stretch his hands to shade his face he didn't had any shadow, u may also see the ground eating up the broken road where he is lying, before the 'darling' title came out.
jun also discovered the painting on the wall, carats' think that it might be the albums that will be released by svt this year. the middle & dark one would be for the May full album comeback, hoshi also mentioned in an interview that the cb would be hot & passionate so... darkteen it is😆
lastly for wonwoo, one of the theory that makes sense to me as I read carats' post on twt, he is already aware abt what is gonna happen, if you can remember past svt mvs (oh my, getting closer, fear etc) wonwoo was always the one who's like seeing something or controlling something (idk😅) . They said there's always something in his eyes, if u may take a closer look you'll see wonwoo is wearing a broken glasses, but he didn't wear it right when he was hesitant to enter the chapel with the boys (i also saw a carat said, that maybe, he was hesitant, because he already new that something bad will happen)
that's it, that's all i collected after reading theories from carats😆
Okay done and done. We’ve solved it you guys. Carats x SVT = Team SVT 💖
this is such a good explanation, I was starting to have a headache regarding this mv
Please keep commenting this on reaction vids... I love you for making a summary of these theories! 😘😘😘
@@svtbtsmoo1317 you can just copy this~ after all these are from carats as well
just to add regarding wonwoo's broken eyeglass, his eyeglass has a band aide which symbolizes innocence and youth so his line "don't wanna say goodbye" makes sense that he don't want to let go of that happy, fun, innocent boyhood but we all witnessed that they all fall into the real world at the end. I hope I make sense about this.
Btw, I always love your reaction you both!
Carats theories that darling was peterpan-inspired like they are peterpan and carats are wendy, all these teddy bear from the lost boys in peterpan and the fairy dust, also wendy's surname is darling 😭 i think its like the svt knows that someday carats will all grow up just like wendy who had her own family 🥺💖
Looks like we will be a having darkteen era on the next comeback 😭🔥💖
WAAAAAAIT 👀👀👀👀
You two analyzing and being confused with the story and message that svt was trying to convey through the mv was a great representation of carats in caratland after watching the mv 😭 Everyone was like "Wth are they try'na say?" "We don't get it svt" "Well lemme just say one thing, Dark and Sexyteen is back" and all of these theories and speculations popping up 😭✋
What they were freaking out about is that if you look close the flower's shadow is shown, but shua's hand's shadow can't be seen. also i saw on twitter that it is a peter pan concept.
That switch up at the end is definitely a taste of what's coming in the album and I can't wait 😭
Joshua pouring a bucket of water on himself and taking a shower with his clothes still on while standing inside the bathtub was a spoiler all this time. I swear to god this boys are literally dropping what WE think is the most random thing ever then it ends up being a spoiler 🥲
Omg! I just realized that wonwoo is portraying John. Wendy's brother, the one with the glasses. That's why he is aware of what's going to happen even if he "don't want to say goodbye" to the happiness of youth that they're experiencing in Neverland.
If they really come back with fear part 2 I might have no choice but to pass away
Literally. No choice.
Yup preplanned murder by SVT. Accepting death willingly 💖
Ong 💪
I will literally dig my own grave
I’m so glad you guys picked up all the little things that took me a couple watches to get, and then some! Definitely Peter Pan vibes with the no shadows and time stopping (the clocks). Then adulthood hit like a ton of bricks. But I’m not smart enough either 🤣🤣. I just know we’re getting a dark concept and if it’s ANYTHING like Fear, I will levitate 😭
Broooo omgggg honestly 😭😭
@@DifferentlyAlike not to mention Wendy’s last name was Darling. It’s just a LOT to analyse 😩 I love this MV and song so much
Hoshi dropped the glass because they realized Joshua (none of them) have a shadow and they realize they were in a fantasy. Once they realize, the pin that was stopping the clock from ticking breaks, and time resumes and they have to face the reality that they cant live in Neverland forever. Then they fall down into Dreamcatcher land and both groups have to fight each other Hunger Games style.
ICANNOOOTTTTTLMAAOOO
They freak out because they don’t have shadows and can only see the shadow of the flower
I love how you’re one of the reactors who can make a 3-4 minute mv/song into a 20+ mins video😭
I think it's like Neverland. They escape reality (growing pain) and likely forget that they are in a dream or an imaginary world.
*First of all*
-The first scene where Vernon raised his hand above his face, there was no hand shadow. and the ground below collapsed He was therefore the first to know that this was not the real world.
-The next scene has a clock that has been stopped by a pin. (They might be do it) like they don't want to grow
-Wonwoo has cracks in his glasses???
- Notice some scenes, everyone is shadowless
-The next scene is the scene where everyone plays happily. *In real life of the members before their debut. They were playing paint in the green room(practice room)*
- having fun until Vernon ran in. Vernon tells about the shadows and the world they live in. He threw flowers to Joshua. Joshua experiments by thrusting the flower into the light. The flower has a shadow, but Vernon pulls his hand slightly. So everyone saw that Joshua had no shadow.
-In the shadow it says "belief real remember"
-Hoshi drops a vase with daisies falling. The vase was shattered. *Daisy means innocence* Maybe it meant his innocence that he had no more (began to grow) and he also picked up a shard of glass. causing his finger to be cut to the point of bleeding. (Know the pain)
- Jun removed the wall until he found a wall painting depicting the moments in this MV. There are happy moments and knowing the truth discover a church that will take you to the real world. until the world of imagination collapses But… the next picture is not in the MV.
IT MIGHT BE A SPOILER THE ALBUM IN MAY!!!!
-Jun looked at the sun(wall painting) and found a box in a tub of water full of clocks (They might be do it ? as if trying to stop time). The box had the same sun sign on the wall. Could it be the key to another world? Or it tell the truth?
- In the next scene, everyone starts searching for the truth. until I came across a church that looks like a wall painting They opened the door and walked in. Butttttt! Wonwoo stopped and said “don't wanna say goodbye” (he doesn't want to leave here. Perhaps Wonwoo was someone who first known about the other world. and don't want to go back)
-Everyone plays the game. There are people who close their eyes and have to catch others. but next scene,when open eyes. Something has changed and there is no one.
-Seungkwan walks in a hall. with the audience being a teddy bear (Referring to childhood?) He’s start singing but he’s look again. That the hall looked gloomy.
- S.coup opens his eyes to saw reality. and his shadow returned
-Woozi wipes the paint on his face (knows the truth and chooses to leave his childhood memories behind) and wipes the mirror, his shadow return.
-The smiley face on the wall translates to tears? Jeonghan saw a smiling face on the mirror that seemed to have been obscured (They might be do it? to avoid the perception of another world). He brushed off the dust and saw himself in another world. that looks different from him
-The8 seems to have reached another world connection door.
-Jun saw the other him through the glass that separated them. They touched their hands and the glass shattered.
-The pin that stopped time fell off (Growth has begun)
-Everyone entered the church. Everyone saw their shadow and Their bodies looked fuzzy. (Saw the truth)
-Joshua looks at Joshua in another world that upside down.
- Vernon stood holding a light in his hand. To cast a shadow that makes everyone see the shadow (the truth) and said “kiss me baby” (like Snow White that must be kissed in order to wake up from the poison) as if saying that he had woken up from a dream
- Everyone's bodies started to crumble. The imaginary world collapsed.
-There is a scene of a solar eclipse in Wonwoo's eyes. But when the world collapses It was gone
- everyone returned to the real world where everything had collapsed. They have traces of wounds. and a confused face
Thank you for this. I had the same theory as you but can't put it into words. :D
I liked Darl+ing so much, was waiting for your reaction ❤
YALL ARE SO SMARTTTT!!! Y’all figured out basically everything about the story/concept/what the MV is about- 👏👏 you need an award asap!!!💪🤍
0:44 "for free?" lmfaooo not the toessss 😩😭
Honestly I had the same reaction I was like "you're just gonna give feet shots for free??? Girl you gotta charge for that" 💀
I was lost in appreciation for how insanely good the aesthetics is and with everything that was happening lol 🧐 all I know is I'm soooo excited for what's coming next cuz a follow up to this is gonna EAT!!!! + jeon wonwoo in this 🗣️ it's him, that's the man
So happy to see your reaction, was waiting for this and yesssssssss I'm excited. I cannot wait for darkteen for the next title track, they're gonna look so good and the song is gonna be fire I already know :)
Seventeen is not known for having lore, but there are theories about hidden lore in their discography and Wonwoo is usually the rage destructive personality and they try to "compress"(?) him(Fallin Flower, Heaven and now Darling) But that's as far as I know lmao
But if we don’t focus too much on wonwoo, there are also other members who fits this narrative in their MVs. I think they had a lore during 2017-early 2019 but they ended it, that one has more Alice in Wonderland in it with a bits of Peterpan, i saw from kcarats tweets that the person who helped build the worldview left Pledis in 2019 since we never saw any hints of continuation of it in their teasers, films & MVs since Home era.
Aahhhh!! I waited for this 🤍
Thank you, you two 🙈💕
It’s so cute you didn’t notice that they don’t have shadows but notice other details!
OMG!!! I DID NOT SEE THAT "FEAR IS COMING" AT THE END!!!! 😳😳😳😳
I'm so glad you guys finally got to react to it ! This MV is so freaking beautiful, I can't but it into words, like the colors, the vibes, everything seems so fine and pretty but you kinda see that something is not quite right and then BOOM, upside down... I ain't smart either but they are a lot of theories, I only noticed the whole shadow things (that they don't have on actually at the beginning and then they start having it)... The choreo is the cutest thing on earth . But yeah ut definitely tease something darker for the album...kinda happy to get a storyline ike that it's always fun !
Guys finally, I was waiting for your reaction, thank you!
You should watch the behind the scene of this MV 😄 the members somehow explains the storyline 😀
bro that one falling scene with all the broken buildings and stuff reminded me of the one fight scene in big hero 6 and also endgame
Girlies I was waiting for this one!!! In love with the immaculate vibes y'all create on this channel 💞
Thanks for reacting to and appreciating SVT!
I really like Chan & Eisa's part 😍Can't wait for Darkteen😉 I can't imagine Esosa's reaction be like 😁
Btw, there's always clocks and sunflowers in their MVs (since Oh My era??)
Your reaction is the most fun out of all the reactions I have watched. Your analysis and reaction 😂 I feel you, carat friends. 😂 Horanghae 🐯
Hoshi confirmed that this is a Peter Pan reference..the song darling also represents us carats n the darling siblings.
I may not be correct everywhere.. But here r some clues
1:51 this is their neverland home where they are living.. Their fantasy
2:05 notice the 🕒...its not moving.. Meaning, they don't age
2:09 no shadow of Vernon's hand.. No reflection on his face
2:10 the ground/land is sliding.. Because Vernon realised the truth that they are not living in reality so their world is breaking
2:53 fun fact: now we check compatibility bonds through zodiac signs n stuffs but before they check personalities through blood types etc n it's out of trend.. So it was one of woozi's cute mistakes cos he was unaware it changed.
3:04 I heard the 🐻 was also a reference from Peter Pan.. Idk n woozi put a charger in the Teddy's heart which is shown as a ♥ shaped indicating something deeper which I'm not sure about.. Like giving life? Since they're technically not living nor death cos they are not in the real world
3:10 Vernon closed all the curtains.. Not allowing light to enter cos of their shadows appearing(?) it has a dark meaning n I'm not sure.
3:18 notice the light passing through their hands but their shadow reflection not showing on the floor? N they were shocked ruining their innocence n realising they're not living in reality
3:34 u could see his blood turning from red to black (that's when it all went downhill folks :))
3:35 Jun peeling the wall n seeing another layer.. Realizing everything was fake n them living in fantasy
4:01 S.Coups was happy here but then 4:18 he was all alone.. Representing Peter Pan when the lost boys n the darling siblings left him n escaped to the real world living him all alone
4:29 woozi wiped the mirror n started showing his reflection too which was not there in the first place n when he realized we can see his shadow on the floor slowly appearing on the next scene we can see the smily face changing looking like its tearing up. Their neverland home breaking apart.
2:16 the 🕒 here shown wasn't moving but in 5:05 it started ticking.. When everyone realized n them going to reality.
5:11 the thing Vernon is holding represents the fairy, Tinkerbell in Peter Pan
5:42 somewhere in the left corner there's a pink banner (I think) written "fear is coming" giving us clues that their next album might be in a more darker concept continuing the story line.
There's many more clues which I'm not sure about like the books they're holding in the beginning n Jun holding a mysterious box n when wonwoo stopped when everyone strive forward, not entering the "world" behind the door n manyyyyy more so ya.. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Isn't it crazy how in the surface the mv looks soft, happy n self-healing summer vibes but when u dig further n look up the real meaning it's a lot darker than you think.
How I explain this MV to people: "Look....so it looks like such a bright MV...but there's something wrong.... Okay pause...what's written on the floor? REAL FEAR! Notice something else?! HE HAS NO SHADOW!!! They all don't have shadows!!!.... And Cheol was.just playing with the members but he removes his blindfold AND HE'S ALL ALONE!!!! Look, they get back their shadows one by one. Now look at Jeonghan...he looks perfectly normal, but look at his reflection after he wipes the mirror! THAT'S DARK JEONGHAN!!! Now looks at them start to slowly crumble.... WOOHOO!!! Now they get pulled into a dark alternate universe!!!!
Now we wait for the comeback this May to find out what happens to them!!!
oh my i got legit goosebumps when u guys caught that fear and i was like THERE’S SHOWED FEAR THERE GUYS PLEASE NOTICE IT and then you notice that hahaha mission complete
이언니들 좋다 뮤직비디오 나오는거 하나 하나 캐치 하는게 굿이예요
**screen shows Joshua's feet**
"For free??" lmao xD
You both are so pretty, i am not even looking at the mv hahahah!!!!
was waiting for your reaction so muchhh
Yeah...I thought d same too when the front Darl+ing was reased I read it as Dark+ing 🤭 and yes perhaps they will b have a Darking song in this upcoming length album
They be focusing in the things written on the ground and im here like YALL NOT SEEING THEM NOT HAVING SHADOWS?!?!? LMAO
Finally guys,, waiting your reaction to our boys 🤗🤗
"We are not smart enough" same tho😭
Yay!!!! Been waiting for your reactions 🥰💖
I mean last year we had a whole retro wave over the kpop industry
i thought you're going to let this pass, been waiting for days!
Wow I love how detailed this. Yall really took your time with it and I’ve enjoyed it so much. Subscribed! :)
Next to live stage
Thank you for reacting to Darl+ing!! Your reactions are always super fun to watch. And you're so quick in picking up these little details too, and your theories are all plausible!! Took me a few rewatch to see those little details lol. The Fear +ing is so smart, didn't even notice that! What if the word with -ing was hidden so it would look like that? Like Fear is "ongoing/happening." In an article, Cheol also said that this album will showcase their most genuine feelings and emotions, so maybe they will share their fears (and hopefully, happiness) here? Like Fear and Trauma pt. 2 lol. (Btw, the book Josh was reading in the first part (the one in Korean) apparently means "A Shadowless Day." ANOTHER SHADOW HINT what is this)
2:08 you know what's funny? Juned is actually a legit name for Indonesian 🤣
Hahahaha...
In my own interpretation of the MV, they are talking about take care the planet, the grass scene, the bright moments of the mv, the worry moments that are in the second verse and finally the dark scene, for me is a no long future of the planet.
I know is a little bit late to comment this, but i just watch the MV.
We talk the most when English teacher overanalyzing the shit out of something but we be doing the same for our idol lmao. We never rest with them spoilers and clue. The clown of us 😂
At 10:54 when you guys were talking about the flower and stuff. Joshua doesn't have a shadow and he's holding the flower in the sunlight. Their shadows are missing.
shadows grow up because they realize that this world is Neverland. Vernon was the first person to notice that they had no shadow (The first scene in the music video where a bird's shadow appears even when Vernon covers the sky with his hand) I really like you guys reactions😂
Add: accdg to kcarats, seems like wonwoo was aware of everything but he didn’t let the other boys know. He was the first one to remove the blindfold (first one to discover that the world they’re in isn’t “real”), at the beginning his glasses is broken & has bandaid to cover it like he’s covering the truth he discovered. he sang the lines of “don’t wanna say goodbye” too, he knows that when they seek where the sun is guided by the compass (when they enter the red door), their happy world will crumble.
I feel like the Sun is Carats tho. Like they’re anticipating to meet us physically (dialing, and “kiss me baby” line which requires you to be there physically with the person), but because they don’t have shadows in that world, rhey figured that world isn’t real & they won’t meet us there, so they try to find us (the sun) by following the compass they found hinted by the wall painting Jun found. They found the sun , the thing Vernon was holding. What i don’t get is they seem to trapped after following it.
I don’t know if the time stopping refers to pandemic. And the trap is their online concert /events after doing it for 4/5 times, where they struggle not having carats in the audience.
The dialling thing is them meeting carats aka Caratland which started the TEAM SVT ERA. “+” means they’re still in the process of reuniting with the carats.
@@unicatofficial3375 The reason why time stopped is simple. Look at Hoshi putting his watch in the water, and there are many watches in the pool, also the hands of the watch are fixed. They are afraid of growth.( The title of Wonwoo and Seungchul's book) They stop their watches on their own and go to Neverland, but soon realize that they have to grow up and go looking for the sun. The sun has many meanings including the carats you mentioned!
YAAAAY CARATS❤💎
I felt this reaction coming. hahsgdjajaj we are guessing we are gonne get darkteen for the title.
It’s cause we said we would watch and post today 😂
This is just a thought that came across my mind when i was watching the mv and reading theories, but regarding wonwoo and the sun stuff.. This is probably a bit far fetched but wonwoo's zodiac sign is cancer of which the ruling planet is the moon. Based on that we can kind of connect that to the music video, which i believe shows an eclipse overlapping with wonwoo towards the end.. Another interesting thing is that he is actually a leo in moon and mercury based on his birth charts (ruling planet sun)
Aw man im not even all that into astrology, but just thought this could maybe somehow connected HAHAHA
accdg to kcarats, seems like wonwoo was aware of everything but he didn’t let the other boys know. He was the first one to remove the blindfold (first one to discover that the world they’re in isn’t “real”), at the beginning his glasses is broken & has bandaid to cover it like he’s covering the truth he discovered. he sang the lines of “don’t wanna say goodbye” too, he knows that when they seek where the sun is guided by the compass (when they enter the red door), their happy world will crumble.
I feel like the Sun is Carats tho “into your heat i’m always diving”. We all know Darling is Carats. Like they’re anticipating to meet us physically (911 calling > dialling you, darling you, baby > “kiss me baby” line which requires you to be there physically with the person), but because they don’t have shadows in that world, rhey figured that world isn’t real & they won’t meet us there, so they try to find us (the sun) by following the compass they found hinted by the wall painting Jun found. If you watch their ring ceremony, in the narration Joshua refers the Sun as Carats.
They found the sunlight thing, Vernon was holding it in the MV, then their shadows appeared & the time start ticking. What i don’t get is they seem to trapped after following it, i’m still not sure what are they trying to say in that scene at the last part of the MV.
I don’t know if the time stopping refers to pandemic. And the trap is their online concert /events while they were glad it was an option despite not seeing us physically, after doing it for 4/5 times, they started struggling not having carats in the audience.
The dialling thing is them meeting carats, finally in Caratland which started the TEAM SVT ERA. “+” means they’re still in the process of reuniting with the us.
There could be double title track (3 if Darling is included). 1st title track about their dark times (i feel like they’re gonna talk about their emotions during the pandemic, their worries & vulnerability) in the first MV they’ll release along with the album. Then release the last MV shortly after. Why do i think there could be more than 1 MV? It’s because of that wall painting, the last illustration is them meeting the sun & it’s all bright after going thru the dark universe. If it’s not an MV, then it’s definitely a film or teaser for their world tour! That’ll complete the storyline
I’m not sure about this, but it’s not impossible for them to have aspects from Alice in Wonderland / Through the Looking Glass, in the next MV. In Darl+ing, it’s like they fell into some sort of rabbit hole, and used glasses/mirrors to figure things out with their shadows. While Neverland is an eternal-lasting place where you don’t age, Alice in Wonderland is an opposite of that.
“In Alice in Wonderland, unlike other fairy tales, the story represents a child's true progression through life, their struggle to survive in the confusing world of adults”
DK's part does it for me, when he shows with mic on stage, that part of song is it
6:30 if nobody gets what I mean
jeonghan👼❤️💎
Wonwoo as Captain Hook, and the rest of the boys as the Lost Boys... I believe.. :))
Can you react to the latest inside seventeen? the making of this mv. It’ll be fun
항상 잘 보고 있어요! 언니들 너무 예뻐요
세븐틴 리액션도 많이 올려주시고 곧 face the sun으로 comeback하는데 관심 많이 부탁드려요💖 from carat
Actually,when Vernon pulls Joshua's hand,only the flower has shadow but no shadow of Joshua and Vernon hand
I think if member alone, real world we can see (shadow growing) but if them together world so happy and beautiful. So wonwoo say “dont wanna say goodbye” ! Lol over all its my theory 😂😂 sorry
i love when you react to svt 🤣🤣
Dark & Sexyteen for the 4th full album I believe, Hoshi was the one who already said it so 🤷🏻♀️
Dark & Sexyteen 😭😭🤣🤣 superior fancams x are going to be WILD
@@DifferentlyAlike Everyone would legit go feral 😭✋
AAAAAAAAA FINALLY
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just wondering will you be reacting to the next seventeen superior fancams???
Fear+ing?