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The differences are easy to list actually. Both support Zigbee 3.0 devices that are either ZemiSmart or Tuya certified, but the Matter bridge also supports third party Matter devices (Thread, WiFi, or via a bridge). The latter also has a Thread Border router inside. Other than that, they’re the same.
HomeKit works on your local network, so anything that works with it - including this hub, shouldn’t require a connection to the outside internet. That’s said, things like Siri on HomePods will not work if you ask them to control a device. You would also not be able to connect to your home network if you’re away from home. Some manufacturers app also require an internet connection, if you want to control devices that use their own app.
Great review and good channel. Thanks for sharing. Can I check with you since I’m new here to smart projects. 1. This Zemismart hub is zigbee base therefore I don’t really need to rely on WiFi and it can work without Wifi, right? 2. However if I want to control from anywhere outside the house, I would need Wifi right. How does this work then? Thanks. 3. Does this only works Zemismart products or any HomeKit compatible products?
Hi Patrick, happy to hear you like the video etc. So to answer your questions, first of all, the ZemiSmart hub only actually uses a wired connection to your router with the provided ethernet cable, so it doesn't use WiFi - I mention WiFi in the video, based on the info I had at the time, which is not actually correct. Any ZemiSmart device that uses Zigbee to connect to this hub, does not use WiFi, so WiFi is not involved between the device and the hub, and the hub to your router & home network. This also means that as long as your internal network is working, these will continue to work even if you cut internet access to your router. If you want to remotely access devices that connect to the hub, then you will be using WiFi - either via mobile internet (4G/5G) or if you're connected to someone else's WiFi network (office, restaurant, hotel etc). In the case of ZemiSmart alone, any connection you make between the Tuya app on your phone, and the hub, is all via Tuya's cloud servers, so the server is the 'middle man' between the phone/app, and your home network. If you're connecting solely via HomeKit, then you would need what is termed a 'Home Hub' - an Apple TV4 or later, a HomePod, or a HomePod Mini. HomeKit allows remote access to your devices via these Home Hubs, which then allow you to control your HomeKit devices, including ZemiSmart ones that are connected to the ZemiSmart Hub. As regards devices that are compatible with the ZemiSmart hub, generally speaking, it will only work with ZemiSmart's own Zigbee devices, and even then you would have to double check whether some are exposed to HomeKit or not, as some device categories aren't supported by HomeKit, and so there may be a Zigbee ZemiSmart device that works with the hub, but is not exposed to HomeKit. It seems most of the ZemiSmart Zigbee devices are indeed exposed to HomeKit, but you can check on this page to be certain - www.zemismart.com/collections/device-work-with-zmhk-01.
@@homekitnews thank you so much for taking time to respond. Very much appreciate that. Just to double: What I plan to do is to have smart light switches installed, which works with Zigbee and homekit. Can I confirm? 1. I need a hub like ZemiSmart to work with Zigbee device and to have a local control, right? 2. For any Zigbee device, it is much faster response time, right? when pressing the switch, light comes on almost instantly? 3. I would also need a 'Home Hub' - an Apple TV4 or later, a HomePod, or a HomePod Mini to control this remotely via WiFi if I want to, right? 4. Which smart switches would you recommend that work on Zigbee and HomeKit app? Thank you very much in advance and sorry for too many questions. New here.
@@patrickstevensonn2664 hi Patrick, no need to apologise, I’m happy to answer your questions. So to start, all Zigbee child devices ( sensors, switches, bulbs etc) require a hub to work. Some devices will work with any generic Zigbee hub, but for ZemiSmart devices, Aqara devices, and Hue devices, for example, if you want them exposed to HomeKit, you need to use their respective hubs. So if you wanted Aqara wall switches and expose them to HomeKit, you need an Aqara hub, and so on. You will get local control as well. Generally speaking Zigbee devices respond quicker than the equivalent devices using either WiFi or Bluetooth. For wired Zigbee light switches, these should act as normal switches, with much the same speed as a dumb switch, as they still use the same relay operation found in dumb switches, but with the added option of being able to control them remotely. For remote access via HomeKit you would need a hub. The cheapest option right now would be the HomePod Mini. My recommendation for smart switches would be Aqara, as they offer both neutral and no-neutral options, for both US and EU switch boxes. They don’t offer three way switch functionality, but there are ways around that.
@@homekitnews your comment help me alot, since i'm also an apple homekit user i want to add few questions too if you dont mind 1.If i use the device from several brand like ZemiSmart for lamp, aqara for switches, both of them also has zigbee protocol, should i get 2 zigbee hubs like 1 for ZemiSmart and 1 For Aqara? or i should i choose only 1 between that 2 ? 2. I do have 3 story house, should i get 3 hubs for each floor or 1 hub only for the first floor and they can connected to the entire house? Thank you so much for your time
@@RickyAngg hi, if you’re using Apple HomeKit, then you’d need Aqara hubs for Aqara child devices and a ZemiSmart hub for ZemiSmart and Tuya certified devices, although ZemiSmart now have an updated hub, so don’t buy this one. I’ll be posting a review next week. I’d actually suggest sticking with Aqara though. As regards how many, I would suggest one hub per floor. The signal for sensors can go further than you’d expect, but it’s better to keep sensors tied to hubs on separate floors. If you’re not in a hurry, I’d also Suggest possibly waiting until Aqara release their M3 hub in early 2024.
Do you know if you try to turn on multiple ZigBee lights at the same time if they show the popcorn effect? Or they all turn on at the exact same time like the hue hub?
@@homekitnews If you couldn't press and hold you could probably teach the switch that if you press twice dim to 50% for example. But ideally if press and hold is recognized as a separate function you could set that to dim. I'm going to have to test this
@@dam0363These switches don't have the functionality to discern different presses like you would typically get with wireless switches, which is also the case with the Aqara switches.
For wireless switches there are quite a few, but if you’re looking for a wired switch, I’m not sure there are any. The only switches I’m aware of that can be programmed to do something other than turn a light on or off, are the Aqara switches with neutral. You can alter the function of one the switch to become wireless, so it mo longer changes the state of the light it’s connected to. The only downside of this is that it will only be able to control other Aqara devices in the Aqara app, although most of their stuff is HomeKit compatible anyway.
Is this still a good option after 2 years? Or should I continue searching for newer hubs? I am planning to add zigbee curtain controller that is not homekit compatible Does this hub let me control any zigbee 3.0 from apple homekit?
It has been superseded by a couple of newer models, so I wouldn’t advise buying it at this point. This and the newer hubs will work with Zigbee devices that are ‘Tuya Certified’, which will then allow them exposure to Apple Home - as long as the device category exists in HomeKit to begin with.
Hello I want ask. I have August smart pro 3rd Gen with wifi bridge. And I buy zemismart tuya zigbee 3 hub. August already connect n works normal. I add zemismart hub and my August cannot connect to my home kit. At home kit apps say device not work. And I check home kit setting there's only 1 connected device and it zemismart hub. How to connect 2 bridge. Thanks
The August WiFi bridge is not exposed to HomeKit, only the August app. If your August lock is not working in HomeKit when it was previously ok, it could be that the ZemiSmart Hub is interfering with your August Wifi bridge. Are they quite close to each other?
@@homekitnews . Correct the August smart lock bridge doesn't appear at home kit. It's appears as doors & locks. yes it's very close, around 2m. So how I should to do? Seperate? 5m enough ?. Thanks for ur support
Hello. I tried to separate august bridge n zemismart. My August still got notification on home kit, no response notification. I tried delete the apps and I wish all data in home kit will be reset. After reinstall. I open home kit apps, the apps still show my setting 😓, I'm very confused 😬. Did one router only work wit 1 bridge? I need ur advice.. Thanks a lot
The next thing you can try is to unplug the ZemiSmart hub. If your August lock comes back online, then you know it’s the ZemiSmart hub causing the problem. If this doesn’t change, then the problem with August lock is somewhere else.
@@Andre-xu3pq it supports Tuya compatible devices as well as ZemiSmart devices, but unless they’re ’Tuya Certified’ Zigbee devices, they won’t be exposed to HomeKit. I don’t believe this product is available any more though, as there’s a newer model.
I would honestly say the Aqara ones are better in terms of build quality. Functionally, the ZemiSmart switches have slightly more to offer, but I prefer quality over features in most cases.
I’d give Aqara was 8.5/10, and ZemiSmart 7/10. I base this mostly ob the industrial design and the aesthetics; the Aqara can use other wall plates, as it’s designed to be used as a standard US type wall switch, whilst you can’t do this with the ZemiSmart switch. I prefer the Matt finish of the plastic used on the Aqara switches too.
nice video! does the zemismart wifi accesories work with homekit without hub? or it only works the zigbee version with this hub? anyway why my homepod doesn’t understand command “turn on the light” when i’m going to turning on the switch. i must ask specifically “turn on switch” but you can do that in this video. -ps my switch is aqara E1
Hi, only Zigbee devices that go via the ZemiSmart hub will be exposed to HomeKit, as long as they’re Tuya certified and the category exists for the devices in HomeKit. The possible reason why you might be getting this issue with Siri is down to what device type you’ve set the switch to in the Home app; these switches can be set to ‘fan’, ‘light’ or ‘switch’ so if you change it to ‘light’ it should work.
It looks as though most of the Hey! Products are WiFi based, in which case there’s no way they would work with this hub, and also not be exposed to HomeKit. This hub will only work with Zigbee devices.
The company says this can only connect with an ethernet cable, how come you're saying it can connect wirelessly? Had anyone tried to connect it wirelessly and it worked?
@@homekitnews Third Reality - worked well with Echo 4th gen zigbee hub. I connected them with some motion sensors to Zemismart hub, but after added to Homekit, only motion sensors shown up on Home app to control
@@homekitnews you must have every single Aqara one! I’m unfortunately confined to a single room with my Aqara gear due to range, wouldn’t reach the bedroom from where the router is so had to use WiFi because there’s no powered devices I can use not having neutral in my switches
This is my punishment for buy a device based on the title of a video alone. Viewers please note: This device DOESN’T make zigbee devices HomeKit compatible.
It makes most ZemiSmart and Tuya certified Zigbee devices HomeKit compatible. The title isn’t misleading at all; it’s a Zigbee hub that works with HomeKit.
@@Seedyrom247 you have to know how HomeKit works in order to ensure you don’t buy these things without knowing the restrictions first. You wouldn’t just go out and buy an air filter for your car without checking it’s the right type and model for your car, and the same is true of Zigbee hubs in relation to HomeKit.
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Great video, I can’t personally wait to test out this hub - mine is on the way!
Thanks man. Out of interest, what sub devices did you order?
Hi, great video! Would love to hear how the switches are holding up! Thanks!
Hi, I only had one of them running for a couple of months, and afterwards donated them to someone. In that time I had no disconnection issues though.
Thanks! Good to know that there weren’t any issues while you were using them
Can you please make a video comparing :
Zemismart Matter Thread Hub Smart Control Tuya Zigbee
Zemismart Zigbee Hub Smart Homekit Bridge Wired Gateway
The differences are easy to list actually. Both support Zigbee 3.0 devices that are either ZemiSmart or Tuya certified, but the Matter bridge also supports third party Matter devices (Thread, WiFi, or via a bridge). The latter also has a Thread Border router inside. Other than that, they’re the same.
Hi! does homekit works without internet, because of the HUB?
HomeKit works on your local network, so anything that works with it - including this hub, shouldn’t require a connection to the outside internet. That’s said, things like Siri on HomePods will not work if you ask them to control a device. You would also not be able to connect to your home network if you’re away from home. Some manufacturers app also require an internet connection, if you want to control devices that use their own app.
Great review and good channel. Thanks for sharing.
Can I check with you since I’m new here to smart projects.
1. This Zemismart hub is zigbee base therefore I don’t really need to rely on WiFi and it can work without Wifi, right?
2. However if I want to control from anywhere outside the house, I would need Wifi right. How does this work then? Thanks.
3. Does this only works Zemismart products or any HomeKit compatible products?
Hi Patrick, happy to hear you like the video etc. So to answer your questions, first of all, the ZemiSmart hub only actually uses a wired connection to your router with the provided ethernet cable, so it doesn't use WiFi - I mention WiFi in the video, based on the info I had at the time, which is not actually correct. Any ZemiSmart device that uses Zigbee to connect to this hub, does not use WiFi, so WiFi is not involved between the device and the hub, and the hub to your router & home network. This also means that as long as your internal network is working, these will continue to work even if you cut internet access to your router.
If you want to remotely access devices that connect to the hub, then you will be using WiFi - either via mobile internet (4G/5G) or if you're connected to someone else's WiFi network (office, restaurant, hotel etc). In the case of ZemiSmart alone, any connection you make between the Tuya app on your phone, and the hub, is all via Tuya's cloud servers, so the server is the 'middle man' between the phone/app, and your home network.
If you're connecting solely via HomeKit, then you would need what is termed a 'Home Hub' - an Apple TV4 or later, a HomePod, or a HomePod Mini. HomeKit allows remote access to your devices via these Home Hubs, which then allow you to control your HomeKit devices, including ZemiSmart ones that are connected to the ZemiSmart Hub.
As regards devices that are compatible with the ZemiSmart hub, generally speaking, it will only work with ZemiSmart's own Zigbee devices, and even then you would have to double check whether some are exposed to HomeKit or not, as some device categories aren't supported by HomeKit, and so there may be a Zigbee ZemiSmart device that works with the hub, but is not exposed to HomeKit. It seems most of the ZemiSmart Zigbee devices are indeed exposed to HomeKit, but you can check on this page to be certain - www.zemismart.com/collections/device-work-with-zmhk-01.
@@homekitnews thank you so much for taking time to respond. Very much appreciate that.
Just to double:
What I plan to do is to have smart light switches installed, which works with Zigbee and homekit.
Can I confirm?
1. I need a hub like ZemiSmart to work with Zigbee device and to have a local control, right?
2. For any Zigbee device, it is much faster response time, right? when pressing the switch, light comes on almost instantly?
3. I would also need a 'Home Hub' - an Apple TV4 or later, a HomePod, or a HomePod Mini to control this remotely via WiFi if I want to, right?
4. Which smart switches would you recommend that work on Zigbee and HomeKit app?
Thank you very much in advance and sorry for too many questions. New here.
@@patrickstevensonn2664 hi Patrick, no need to apologise, I’m happy to answer your questions. So to start, all Zigbee child devices ( sensors, switches, bulbs etc) require a hub to work. Some devices will work with any generic Zigbee hub, but for ZemiSmart devices, Aqara devices, and Hue devices, for example, if you want them exposed to HomeKit, you need to use their respective hubs. So if you wanted Aqara wall switches and expose them to HomeKit, you need an Aqara hub, and so on. You will get local control as well.
Generally speaking Zigbee devices respond quicker than the equivalent devices using either WiFi or Bluetooth. For wired Zigbee light switches, these should act as normal switches, with much the same speed as a dumb switch, as they still use the same relay operation found in dumb switches, but with the added option of being able to control them remotely.
For remote access via HomeKit you would need a hub. The cheapest option right now would be the HomePod Mini.
My recommendation for smart switches would be Aqara, as they offer both neutral and no-neutral options, for both US and EU switch boxes. They don’t offer three way switch functionality, but there are ways around that.
@@homekitnews your comment help me alot, since i'm also an apple homekit user i want to add few questions too if you dont mind
1.If i use the device from several brand like ZemiSmart for lamp, aqara for switches, both of them also has zigbee protocol, should i get 2 zigbee hubs like 1 for ZemiSmart and 1 For Aqara? or i should i choose only 1 between that 2 ?
2. I do have 3 story house, should i get 3 hubs for each floor or 1 hub only for the first floor and they can connected to the entire house?
Thank you so much for your time
@@RickyAngg hi, if you’re using Apple HomeKit, then you’d need Aqara hubs for Aqara child devices and a ZemiSmart hub for ZemiSmart and Tuya certified devices, although ZemiSmart now have an updated hub, so don’t buy this one. I’ll be posting a review next week. I’d actually suggest sticking with Aqara though. As regards how many, I would suggest one hub per floor. The signal for sensors can go further than you’d expect, but it’s better to keep sensors tied to hubs on separate floors. If you’re not in a hurry, I’d also Suggest possibly waiting until Aqara release their M3 hub in early 2024.
Do you know if you try to turn on multiple ZigBee lights at the same time if they show the popcorn effect? Or they all turn on at the exact same time like the hue hub?
I haven’t really noticed that effect on any of my Zigbee lights, but I have seen it on Bluetooth lights in the past.
thanks for the reply so when you turned on a group of ZigBee lights connected to the hub they turned on at the same time?
@@rxs87 yes. The same can’t always be said of my Nanoleaf Thread bulbs, but usually they’re synced well enough.
Thanks for the great video. Do you know if you will be able to dim the lights with these switches by pressing and hold function?
Hi, unfortunately these are only on or off. I believe they do sell dimmer switches though.
@@homekitnews If you couldn't press and hold you could probably teach the switch that if you press twice dim to 50% for example. But ideally if press and hold is recognized as a separate function you could set that to dim. I'm going to have to test this
@@dam0363These switches don't have the functionality to discern different presses like you would typically get with wireless switches, which is also the case with the Aqara switches.
@@homekitnews Oh no, that is a shame. Don't suppose you know of push button switches than can be programmed in that way or what to look for, thanks?
For wireless switches there are quite a few, but if you’re looking for a wired switch, I’m not sure there are any. The only switches I’m aware of that can be programmed to do something other than turn a light on or off, are the Aqara switches with neutral. You can alter the function of one the switch to become wireless, so it mo longer changes the state of the light it’s connected to. The only downside of this is that it will only be able to control other Aqara devices in the Aqara app, although most of their stuff is HomeKit compatible anyway.
How to factory reset the device - HomeKit ID.
I can't add it again.
Try pressing and holding the pairing button on the back until the LED changes it’s mode. If that doesn’t work, let me know.
@@homekitnews it doesnt work! Do u know the solution? tkss
@@Pedro-vx1ns in what way does it not work?
Is this still a good option after 2 years? Or should I continue searching for newer hubs?
I am planning to add zigbee curtain controller that is not homekit compatible
Does this hub let me control any zigbee 3.0 from apple homekit?
It has been superseded by a couple of newer models, so I wouldn’t advise buying it at this point. This and the newer hubs will work with Zigbee devices that are ‘Tuya Certified’, which will then allow them exposure to Apple Home - as long as the device category exists in HomeKit to begin with.
Hello I want ask. I have August smart pro 3rd Gen with wifi bridge. And I buy zemismart tuya zigbee 3 hub. August already connect n works normal. I add zemismart hub and my August cannot connect to my home kit. At home kit apps say device not work. And I check home kit setting there's only 1 connected device and it zemismart hub. How to connect 2 bridge. Thanks
The August WiFi bridge is not exposed to HomeKit, only the August app. If your August lock is not working in HomeKit when it was previously ok, it could be that the ZemiSmart Hub is interfering with your August Wifi bridge. Are they quite close to each other?
@@homekitnews . Correct the August smart lock bridge doesn't appear at home kit. It's appears as doors & locks. yes it's very close, around 2m. So how I should to do? Seperate? 5m enough ?. Thanks for ur support
Hello. I tried to separate august bridge n zemismart. My August still got notification on home kit, no response notification. I tried delete the apps and I wish all data in home kit will be reset. After reinstall. I open home kit apps, the apps still show my setting 😓, I'm very confused 😬. Did one router only work wit 1 bridge? I need ur advice.. Thanks a lot
The next thing you can try is to unplug the ZemiSmart hub. If your August lock comes back online, then you know it’s the ZemiSmart hub causing the problem. If this doesn’t change, then the problem with August lock is somewhere else.
does it support other brand zigbee devices ?
@@Andre-xu3pq it supports Tuya compatible devices as well as ZemiSmart devices, but unless they’re ’Tuya Certified’ Zigbee devices, they won’t be exposed to HomeKit. I don’t believe this product is available any more though, as there’s a newer model.
Hi, just wonder if this hub able to link Bluetooth mesh zigbee track lights for HomeKit?
Hi, this hub only uses Zigbee, it doesn’t have any other wireless protocols.
@@homekitnews thanks！
Thank you,dear~
how are these switches from zemismart compare to aqara in term of build quality and functionality?
I would honestly say the Aqara ones are better in terms of build quality. Functionally, the ZemiSmart switches have slightly more to offer, but I prefer quality over features in most cases.
@@homekitnews thanks for your reply. If you compare the two and grade it to 10, what is your grade then? 7/10 or 8/10 compare to aqara?
I’d give Aqara was 8.5/10, and ZemiSmart 7/10. I base this mostly ob the industrial design and the aesthetics; the Aqara can use other wall plates, as it’s designed to be used as a standard US type wall switch, whilst you can’t do this with the ZemiSmart switch. I prefer the Matt finish of the plastic used on the Aqara switches too.
@@homekitnews thanks you for your help
nice video! does the zemismart wifi accesories work with homekit without hub? or it only works the zigbee version with this hub? anyway why my homepod doesn’t understand command “turn on the light” when i’m going to turning on the switch. i must ask specifically “turn on switch” but you can do that in this video. -ps my switch is aqara E1
Hi, only Zigbee devices that go via the ZemiSmart hub will be exposed to HomeKit, as long as they’re Tuya certified and the category exists for the devices in HomeKit. The possible reason why you might be getting this issue with Siri is down to what device type you’ve set the switch to in the Home app; these switches can be set to ‘fan’, ‘light’ or ‘switch’ so if you change it to ‘light’ it should work.
Do anyone know if the products from the UK smart home brand Hey! which is built on TUYA will work with this?
It looks as though most of the Hey! Products are WiFi based, in which case there’s no way they would work with this hub, and also not be exposed to HomeKit. This hub will only work with Zigbee devices.
@@homekitnews Thanks :)
were you able to connect it wirelessly through wifi?
Unfortunately not. I’m not sure why the website lists 2.4GHz as a connection, but it would appear it’s not correct.
Does it work with Google Home and Alexa voice assistance ? And does the hub has a speaker like Aqara? Thanks
Hi, there’s no speaker, but it will work with Google and Amazon smart assistants.
The company says this can only connect with an ethernet cable, how come you're saying it can connect wirelessly? Had anyone tried to connect it wirelessly and it worked?
The online adverts mentioned 2.4GHz WiFi, but I have only tried it via Ethernet.
I have 2 zigbee switches, connected to Zemismart but not compatible with Homekit
What brand are these switches?
@@homekitnews Third Reality - worked well with Echo 4th gen zigbee hub. I connected them with some motion sensors to Zemismart hub, but after added to Homekit, only motion sensors shown up on Home app to control
@@jamesnguyen4646 only most ZemiSmart Zigbee devices and some Tuya certified Zigbee devices will be exposed to HomeKit via the ZemiSmart hub.
You’ve got some hubs Simon!
Yes, I have a few! Many Aqara, but a few others too.
@@homekitnews you must have every single Aqara one! I’m unfortunately confined to a single room with my Aqara gear due to range, wouldn’t reach the bedroom from where the router is so had to use WiFi because there’s no powered devices I can use not having neutral in my switches
@@michaelthompson657 I’ve got most of them. There’s one Chinese wall socket with built in hub, but I wouldn’t be able to wire that one up.
@@homekitnews do you mean like a wall socket? If so that’s pretty cool idea!
@@michaelthompson657 yes, you can check it out here - www.aqara.com/cn/productDetail/smart-wall-outlet-h1-hub
I'm looking forward to thread as zigbee is a mess and a total con and also more important, local control, no cloud
This is my punishment for buy a device based on the title of a video alone.
Viewers please note: This device DOESN’T make zigbee devices HomeKit compatible.
It makes most ZemiSmart and Tuya certified Zigbee devices HomeKit compatible. The title isn’t misleading at all; it’s a Zigbee hub that works with HomeKit.
@@homekitnews a hub is useless with HomeKit. The expectation is that you can drive devices through it.
@@Seedyrom247 you have to know how HomeKit works in order to ensure you don’t buy these things without knowing the restrictions first. You wouldn’t just go out and buy an air filter for your car without checking it’s the right type and model for your car, and the same is true of Zigbee hubs in relation to HomeKit.
Louzy product zmhk01 no connect at all no curtains … louzy shown only as bridge in homekit