Mercedes 190E - Why are they so expensive?
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- Опубликовано: 22 ноя 2022
- A nice test drive in this lovely motor today that will soon be for sale.
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It was produced until 1993. Mine was delivered in 11/93. Still have it from almost new. Built when the engineers not accountants were in charge.
I recently got a very nice '90 190E 2.6 with 95K original Southern Cal miles and a virtual total mechanical rebuild by the previous owner, who happens to own a Merc specialty garage. I never imagined myself owning ones of these but when I saw his for sale I went for a look and drive, and I knew I had to have it. The interior is almost as-new. The Sacco design is classic, crisp, and both very of it's time yet timeless (not an easy trick.) In 2023 it still feels rock solid and provides a smooth and cocoon-like driving experience in the city, and is fabulous and comfortable for highway cruises. People respond to it almost universally positively. I think for them, as for me, it reminds them of a better, simpler time...of being a hell of a lot younger. Of quality, of things built to last. When I'm blasting some period-correct music on the very nice newer music system (New Order and Smashing Pumpkins have been on heavy rotation) floating around town, I can't imagine driving anything else...
I’ve noticed other road users are far more considerate when I’m in my 190 and far more likely to let me out with a smile at a busy junction
The W201 190E is a basic saloon car with excellent build quality and is the forerunner of the C-Class. I own a 2009 W204 C200 and I'm loving it. Easily the best modern Merc.
I have one - the basic 1.8. And sometimes I think it's a bit boring. And often it is. BUT. It looks very smart and classy and unlike most of the other cars on the road.. It's immensely comfortable. It's tremendously well built. It's not going to go horribly wrong. And y'know - despite being a bit boring and underpowered, it's surprisingly good on the twisty lanes!
I agree with you on its surprising abilities on the twisties. It’s kind of boring in a good, interesting way.
Kindly sell it to me , I have a W124 but now too old
Love the twisties! In a good curve still minimal roll. Only a bit of roll when trying to dodge a pothole in less than a second.
My dad got one also 1.8 engine and I really really like how it looks. I drive Audi A4 B7 1.9 tdi and I really think of trading the Audi to my dad for the 190E. Is it a good idea? Will it be worth?
@@SnickersPWNAGE Inevitably it'll cost more to run, but you'll appreciate lots of little things like the visibility and simply the distinctiveness of driving something different from every else. And you're unlikely to lose money on it. I'd say go for it!
I always liked the 190 Mercedes Benz good fun car to drive. I nearly bought one myself in 2008. That lovely clunk when you shut the door is just superb.👍🍻
Better than Rover!!!
A proper Mercedes when their cars really stood for good quality. The genius of longevity was partly making them look so bland they had very little boy-racer appeal! They are lovely old cars and still seen in many countries, particularly the base diesel models. I rented one on holiday once and driving behind the badge on the front always made me think of the gunsights in old fighter planes! 😁
Better but not actually better.
Why did it have a normal handbrake? Apparently it was because they couldn't make the mechanism fit in the narrower body without making the drivers foot room smaller. According to a documentary I saw about the 190Es development.
I'd buy you a beer! Probably two actually for that sort of good advice.
Personally, although I quite liked the 1980's 190's, I was always put off by the very expensive Mercedes servicing and parts costs,. Not that I could have afforded a new 190 in the 80's. But even affording to buy a secondhand model in the 90's would have put a big dent in my wallet if I had tried to maintain it properly. But, considering the generally poor build quality of 70's and 80's cars, Mercedes do seem to have stood the test of time better than most of their rivals.
A very fair and honest review I thought.🙂
Yeah, I bet you would, because you're a decent chap 🙂
I absolutely love these cars! I have a w202 c200 at the moment so literally the one after this. 👍
I'd have bought you TWO pints if you'd passed that old 190e my way and I'd have thrown in a bag of cheese n onion too! But I'm happy with my 2.6, straight 6 auto 190e with electric windows all round, electric tilt/slide sunroof, headlamp wash wipe, a/c, rear headrests, front and rear armrests, leather steering wheel and heated electric mirrors and lockable glovebox. ....Enjoyed the review. 👍😎
How much the price of 2.6 there?
Hi I am looking for one good 190E which has been looked after by a decent caring car lover.Ready to pay right price for a solid car
You are excelling on your reviews this month, 👍👍
Thanks 😄
An absolutely spot on review, Mustard. One of your best!
Thank you 🙂
Om605 turbo diesel works nice in these. Mine has a om606
Great review makes you want one. You did that!
Thank you 😁
These are awesome. Very classy. My dad used to have one and it was a distinct step up in quality from the Montego that preceded it. In the end he got a bit bored of it as he felt it wasn’t very exciting so he bought a BMW 535i instead. He offered the 190 to me but I didn’t want it, I had a Golf GTI that I was very happy with but if I could go back in time I’d have both and find somewhere safe, warm and dry to keep them. Along with the 535 because that was a wonderful car too. I think if I were to have a Merc though I reckon a 500SEC is the way to go. The egg shortage is here, it was in the news. Eggs will be the new toilet rolls.
Since my Mum is like Hyacinth Bucket, we had loads of old Mercs growing up. A 230E which would be quite valuable now. That had the dash mounted handbrake that my Dad tried to use as a choke on the test drive. 🤣 C180 1999 was next. Picked up from 'Carland' in Salford. Me and the salesman persuaded my Mum to buy it. 😆 Cool car and I really liked it but always breaking down! Similar sounding engine to that 190. Next a 2006 CDI Avantgarde diesel. That's my favourite of the bunch. People mock them but I love the styling, the ride is excellent and it's pretty nippy! 🙂
It's Bouquet, you Philistine!
Some people dislike the 4 cylinder 124’s, but I love them. I’ve had 230e’s for 20 years. Reliable and comfy af.
QUALITY QUALITY QUALITY I have one from 82
Indeed
They are not expensive now. They do have rust issues but the youngest of them is 30 years old now. If you look hard enough you will find one that was owned by someone who wanted a quality car that they could afford to look after but on a smaller scale to fit into a garage or easier to park. Usually with a full service history and there are plenty of low (sub 100,000) mileage examples so buy on condition not age.
The designer, Bruno Sacco said he expected the 190e to have a 30 year lifecycle which is a quite a statement to make and hang his reputation on. I own a 2.6 and accept that it will cost me more in fuel but I wanted a straight six. It goes well, stops well, handles well, is quiet, easy to drive, I could go on...
Want a classic you can use as a daily ?. Buy a ( non rusty) Mercedes 190e and enjoy the experience.
That’s why I bought this one. It’s completely rust-free. It has a few minor issues but I can always rely on it to get me where I’m going in style and comfort. I’d love a 6 pot, but at the time I couldn’t find one as clean as this one.
Do Love a 190. You'll have to Drive my W140 at some point another car that marked the last of a Golden era for Mercedes in the Same way thr P6 did for Rover.
I certainly definitely love to do thatv🙂
Great Review young Mustard. My mate worked at a bank in London, in the early 90’s, and was going to buy a brand new Mercedes 190, the salesman drove him for the test drive, when he asked for a discount, he was unceremoniously ushered to the used car department. He bought a new BMW 520 instead & has owned BMWs ever since
Thank you 🙂
I own a 2.3l manual...why manual? Get to drive one in the mountain and you'll understand...the chassis is amazing and the pick up in 1st or 2nd is really nice
Massively expensive at launch, priced at the level of the class above, very little in the way of the luxuries and even cramped rear accommodation even back in the day. Hugely over engineered multi link rear suspension, superb build quality and ride quality shames modern cars, those plastic and trim have stood the test of time. It’s an S Class shrunk down with the same level of 80s Merc quality before they entered their crusty period…you missed the 90 degree opening bonnet BTW 😮. I’m very attached to the 32 year old one I own!
Watching your videos party inspired my decision to buy this one 😊
To think that Mercedes just became another car that went rusty and broke down
Good examples are expensive because it's the best small saloon car. Love 190's but they 're bit too small for me so i got bigger brother W124. Good review, enjoyed it.
30k views! Congratulations!
I love my "new" '88 190 Cosworth. Ride--wise it's tight as a drum. Pretty damn quick too 🚗. In a Cosworth you NEED a manual Transmission 👍....
Lovely 😁
I guess you dont see the design the way I do lol.. The dashboard has this perfect design and texture... the boxy yet at the time most aerodynamic saloon as you guys say of the time and for todays standards does pretty decent in a wind tunnel.. The cosworth of course is what we all want. or even the sportline or just a manual 190E to adapt a evo II body kit on, throw in a roll cage and some tunning bits and off to a track... They are impossible to find in a manual here now for a price that makes any sense.. and even a clean auto is more than youd want to spend and go build/race
Excellent car. Excellent review. The car I would like to buy is one of those I've seen during the ad breaks in your uploads. Apparently, if you buy one of them, you can drive them through cities and along motorways and across bridges that are all totally devoid of any other traffic.
Ah yes, the normal people stay at home so you can properly enjoy your car; what a fantastic feature 🙂
They were also sold with L plates - I think they may have stopped making them by August 1993, but some were sold after this.
Alloy wheels = lower unsprung weight back in the day when steel rims were made of tank leftover bits
They're no heavier than alloys now though.
I remember in the early hip hop days in Northampton so many Mercs lost their badges to be worn by Oicks blasting beastie boys from their Boom boxes....glad my Maestro badge was a transfer.
Why did they nick M-B badges? It was VW badges everywhere else. VW would send you a nice big VW badge key ring if you wrote and asked for one in an attempt to stop people nicking badges off the front of Golfs and Polos. I got sent one, I gave it to a beautiful red head girl called Helen who had a Beetle and she was very grateful. Maybe it’s a Northampton thing, I’m very familiar with Northampton and nothing would surprise me.
@@windymiller5058 Northampton had a large compliment of Mercedes owners, VW's were more Milton Keynes and most Northampton Oicks didn't have the bus fare...
They had the VW badge of my parents' Golf mk1, very annoyed 😠
I do like the 190e. A very good looking car .
Very understated
I so regret selling mine for £750 in 2007
£750???
The earth wants its slice of granite back please..
😆
A great review of a proper nice car. The last sentence made me laugh :-) a german barge with large helping of mustard. say no more...
Thank you 😊
manual gear boxes last much longer then automatics and are much cheaper to repear
Still own 4 190e s .Rog.
I had 3, down to 1 now. My friend has 10! 3 Cosworths and 7 2.6’s.
@@190E_2.6 Hi. The more the merrier!. I'm down to three now as I have two other classics also and only have 4 garages and a large shed .Cheers.
Great review. My dad had a very faded red car that was on its last legs. It was picked up for £2500 and shipped out to Africa for spares.
Hehe..chances are it's still driving. Nothing like last legs for these guys. They don't die
SAME TASTE! land rover, pre 1994 Saab, Mercedes!! YES SIR! best ever. And yes, they were kind of made with the Automatic in mind for the daily driver qualities, so it suits the car much more than it would suit a sports car. Because the wheels are UNSPRUNG WEIGHT, which makes a big difference in the overall drive and handling. I donno, been tempted for steel, but always had great drives with alloy saab 900 wheels on my saabs. I did dent one on a pothole, so yeah, tough wheels have their benefits. But for driving quality, I don't think it's even close - the alloys are better from engineering ride quality. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong.
Great car, got the 190e 2.6 from 91
How much u paid ?
Paid $1000 in denmark, had to do some repair s on it and alot of body work, but it has only drowe 225000 km
@@ap6878 The price is good. Are cars in Denmark cheaper than the rest of Europe? I think that a car like this costs no less than 4000 euro.. Did the repair work cost a lot?
I did all the work myself, took some time, but spare parts from germany are cheap, thank god
I have a 1988 2.6 with 108k genuine miles. Spent £1500 on repairs in 2.5 years but well worth it. Love the drive!
They made a helluva DTM touring car :)
Superbly made. Always thought they were clumpy and dull at the time. I preferred the Audi designs of the time and still do.
Great channel by the way, gj m8
Thank you
One of the last proper Mercedes. I never owned a 190E, but I've had a few E class's. The 3.0 diesels are bullet proof.
In answer to the Auto box question, most manuals were budget spec rep mobiles, where the aspiring rep would rather have a poverty spec manual than a mid spec Sierra - because he wanted the Merc badge.
I actually ordered a Merc from new in the late 90's, and ordered a manual, because I had always driven a manual.
The dealer to his credit, lent me an auto for the weekend - I changed the order.
Quality of them was amazing. OK they rusted a bit, but I didn't keep one into old age, so that didn't bother me. These things took 4 days to build, when a Ford or Vauxhall was taking 1 day. That's why a certain type of person bought them.
Sadly the JD Power survey tells us they aren't as well screwed together these days, but they do have models that are comparably more affordable than the 190E was for many.
Great video Captain, you captured the baby Merc just right.
You are welcome to take my C320 W124 out for a drive.
I would like that
Oh those vents break yes 😀
Hey I'm from Todmorden! What a coincidence
Wow, I read your message just as I saw him going past Gordon Riggs in Walsden! Brilliant.
Much love to Merc 190 fans
I've got both a rover214 sei and a 190e. Love em both but the Merc has been off the road pushing 3 years now. All because I lost the key🤦♂️
First !! (had to do it)
Built well but most models are as slow as Christmas and the interior is a bit poverty spec.
We never got cloth interior in the US, either MB-TEX or leather. Plus, air conditioning was standard (automatic climate control).
Got one with leather and wood trim. It's much nicer than the basic cloth but still a step down from the 200E
I like the W201’s but I’ve only been a passenger in one. Wasn’t as comfy and smooth as my W124, but maybe it wasn’t a good example. I think they’re cheap to buy, but prices are rising.
No Beer, Not a Mate. 🤣🤣
Oh for a pristine 190 2.5D with an auto box. One day perhaps one will fall into my lap 🙄
Maybe it will
I have one, 1993 with 78k miles, and despite the low miles, there is definitely something wrong with the engine, really loud and irregular. Garage can't find the problem. Rest of car is super solid, not a rattle, and a pleasure to drive despite the engine sound.
Had a 92 2.5 diesel ,rock solid motoring,has it faults,look after the gearbox and throw on some monark nozzles , new alternator bushes and glow plugs and shocks,and it will thank you with reliability
@@andrevanderwalt69 If you still have the car try replacing the engine mounts. They deteriorate over time and it does make the engine sound rough.
tengo exactamente el mismo coche, de diciembre de 1986 2.5, pero diesel, sin rpm
I had a '87 190E 2.3. P.O.S.
Got pne amg moblock right hand drive , mint condition selling cause im broke 😢
Coo cooo
Ghastly things. Competent no doubt, but utilitarian, terminally dull, built with a typically Germanic efficiency and complete lack of passion, and entirely and utterly soulless. I’ve hated every single interminable second I’ve spend inside one of these horrid contraptions designed purely as a means of transport by, and for people who simply can’t understand the concept of joy. If this car was a man you’d fake a cardiac arrest to avoid talking to him at a dinner party.
Wow you really don't understand this rather quiet chap at all.
Don't worry Captain, he is happy buying crappy Rover's off you where you can't even shut the tailgate.
Give me a boring Merc any day 🤣🤣
I don’t like them and I never have. The very first moment that you slide in, squat on that huge, flat, uninvolving, bland and downright unhelpful sear with the (doubtless hardwearing) but horrendously unwelcoming material and are immediately confronted by the nonsensically massive steering wheel that would be better suited to a paddle steamer than a car the message is abundantly clear. YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO ENJOY THIS EXPERIENCE. They are cars that fulfilled a purpose, indeed fulfilled their true destiny, and as pointed out in the video that was to become mini cabs. Somewhere where mechanical longevity in rugged conditions would be a boon, hence their proliferation in North Africa. Or perhaps to lead a more pampered life taking women home from clubs in Scunthorpe at 2am, where the owner driver would be grateful for the nature of the seats as he hosed the vomit off them at the local 24 hour garage using the loyalty tokens gained from buying fuel for his school run contract. Which makes them admirable in a way. But as a car to own, to try and take pleasure from driving, to cherish? Non-starter. Which is ironic as the one thing they invariably do is start. All in all, if I had a choice of a 190 or a bad case of shingles being in my life, I’d take the shingles. At least I might get some pleasure from a high fever dream, that I’d be highly unlikely to get from the car.
So is there any downside at all? 😆
@@Dick-Dastardly to what? Shingles or the Merc?