i almost never leave youtube comments but this felt very warranted for one. its been over a month straight now since picking up the hot end/thermister you recommended and i havent had a single issue since. this works so well they should honestly just include this. thank you so much for this info! I can even print ABS now which I could never do before without running into temp issues
Thank you for this tip! I had thermal runaway issues with my Ender3 V2 Neo, so I decided to order the kit. Here are my key takeaways: -Thermal Runaway Warnings May Persist: The kit may still trigger thermal runaway warnings. This happens because you need to perform a PID tuning (or use MPC) for your new hotend. The firmware tries to predict temperature changes but fails since it's tuned for the original hotend, leading to larger temperature fluctuations. PID tuning is only possible with alternative firmware or terminal access to your printer (such as through OctoPrint). -Thermistor Beta Value Differences: Even after PID tuning, you may still encounter runaway warnings. The thermistor in the kit has a different beta value than the stock one (3950 vs. 4092), which causes a temperature reading offset (10-20°C). This makes the temperature plot appear irregular. To fix this, you need firmware configured to recognize a T13 thermistor type (the stock thermistor is T1). -Firmware Solution: I flashed the MRiscoc firmware, which conveniently offers a version with T13 pre-set. This resolved all the temperature issues. -Ender3 V2 Neo-Specific Note: The heater block doesn’t fit directly onto the Neo heatsink. If you want to keep the Neo heatsink (I did, as the Ender 3 heatsink looks toylike compared to the Neos), you’ll need an M2x16 screw and tighten only one side of the heater block. This will result in a slightly skewed heater block, but print quality remains unaffected since the nozzle is still vertically aligned. Hope this helps a few people!
A huge Thank You. I watched so many videos made by 3D printing "experts" and only yours got to the source of the issue. I would have never guessed without you, that the thermistor needs thermal paste to function properly. Greetings from Poland!
I knew that was the problem but I didn't even think about cleaning out the old thermal compound and adding fresh stuff thankyou for your knowledge much appreciated.
A Very straightforward tutorial with links. Super easy fix as I was running big prints and getting thermal runaways sometimes 8 hours in. Thank you for the information.
You are the one who has the solution for this and it took me 4 months to get to your channel! RUclips should place your video at the top! Thanks for the fix it really work like a charm!
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE VIDEO. I've had an Ender 3 NEO for 3 weeks and the last 4 days it's been giving me problems with hotend temperature instability and E1 errors. I contacted Creality and they gave me erratic instructions, such as checking the thermistor screw or checking the wiring. Today they gave me an AUTOPID file to calibrate the temperatures but it didn't help either. I watched your video and understood the problem, I'm going to order the kit, but I'm going to give a temporary solution for people who have the problem and can't buy the kit or it takes a while to arrive. I've tried to remove the thermistor and it's been impossible without breaking it, and since I don't have a replacement, I've left it inside, but I've taken CPU thermal compound, one that I have that doesn't solidify, it stays liquid for a long time, and I've filled the thermistor hole sealing it from the outside. I've been printing for 4 hours with the temperature totally stable, it doesn't move a degree!!! if this happens to you, until you get a new kit, try filling the entire thermistor hole with CPU thermal compound, it works!!! I don't know how long, but it works for now.
I am so grateful for this video, I'm a non technical mum and my son's ender 3 was beeping like hell.... I managed to put on a new hot end and then was stumped, irritated and going to cry quite honestly. This video solved my issue and if I could I would hug you! Thank you so much ❤😂
thank you for this, I cleaned mine and put some thermal paste on it, seems to be working great again. funny thing is that I just replaced the mainboard to make it silent. Never had a problem before, I think the old board didnt have thermal run away protection.... So Im pretty lucky to be finding it this way. thanks again!
You are a genius. I happened to have a tube of thermal paste right next to the printer. 2 min fix after 2 failed prints and a whole lot of cussing. Every hotend I've installed has been dry so I never even thought about it but it's fixed and I have stable HE temps for the first time in forever!
nice, i cleaned the Thermistor and seems to have fixed my problem for now. I already plan to upgrade to a new hot end as soon as i can but at least my machine is working again
Thank you for this advice. Unfortunately i bought my ender 3 v2 second hand and the thermistor was "in the air" inside the hole ,which i thought was proper. Then the problems began and i couldn't figure it out. Bought a new hotend from creality but after 7 months again the problems started. I will try your advice on the next hotend i buy when this stops working. Thanks for the video.
@@Jake0663 Move your wire around and try that. sometimes mine will do this right out of the blue but i just wiggle the wires and it starts working again. Did you get the assembled kit or just the thermistor?
Thanks for sharing. I've yet to have thermal runaways, but I'd like to upgrade my thermistor. The heater block supplied in the kit is aluminum, the one I have is copper version of the stock aluminum (holes matches), which is better with transferring heat. Would that thermistor screw in where the captive screw would normally screw in?
my thermistor went out on the first day. I only had it running 30 min total. dont ask how. it just did. im going to install the new hot end when I get home from work then I'm printing a benchy for real this time. I know I can just use some of my thermal paste I used to build my pc. I use nth2 but I'm too lazy for that.
Don't forget to use thermal paste. I installed this and thermal runaway still. I then apply themal paste after reading what people are saying and now it runs.
I had a ton of problems and I mean a ton. Even had to refix the skeleton of the printer. And now this problem. I mean I will clean it if it'll be ok for 6 months tops. I just need to print a few things for now
interesting funnyly enough my ender 3 came without thermal paste on thermistor so i never aplied it back when i replaced heat blocks 3 times and it works all the same don't really know how well it track the temperature but no runaways
You are welcome. i have helped hundreds of people with this solution on other channels , thats why i made this video. you are not the first to thank me. i get that every few days! just glad i could help. have a nice day.
first thing I did with mines was change out the hot end, never even booted it up, printed a few things and then a few weeks later it would go for like 5 to 10 minutes then give me an error. saw that paste while I was changing the hot end, because I took the thermostat out, was hoping it would be an issue, guess ill find out in 10 minutes if it was.
Thank you nice work👍 , as advised I cleaned up my thermoister and heating cartridge put them back and did a successful print , it's not showing any thermal runaway warning .
I got the kit but then I opened the box to the motherboard I saw all the wires and I got scared I don’t want to mess anything up so I just left it alone I don’t know what to do can you do a video on installing it?
everything should just plug in. if they dont just cut the old wires from the heat block and splice the new heat block in. you cant cross the wires. just splice the big wires to the big wires and the small wires to the other small wires. you cant cross them, those wires dont have a positive and negative so you cant cross them, they will work wired ether way as long as you put the big wires with the big wires and small with the small.
You replaced the whole hot end and thermistor and are still getting a thermal runaway? can you make a video and show it and show what it's doing. maybe we could help you more then. if you do make a video come back here and let me know so i can go watch it and try to help.
I don't have an Ender but I have an Aquila, is it possible that the fan itself could throw the thermal error? I recently upgraded my hotend fan and since that I've been getting this error, and the fan is a significant upgrade so I'm wondering if that could be an issue?
Hello there. Is this kit available for Europe regions ? I'm interested for Greece specifically. So any German or Spain seller available ?! Thank you in advance
Hello! How has the kit held up over time, are any modifications to the firmware needed? Oddly, I can't find many sources about thermistors like this so I'm a little warry of buying any. I've had thermal runaway E1 issues since I got my Ender 3 Pro though, and I'm pretty desperate for a fix at this point.
This kit is awesome. it is still doing great. no problems at all. no modifications needed. just remove your old hot end and replace with this new one and plug up the wire or splice the wires for longer wires like i did in this video. this new hot end already comes assembled so just bolt it on, it's that simple. Thermal runaway E1 is a thing of the past for me now. enjoy brother. and this kit is awesome for the price!
You replaced the thermister and hot end? and its still doing it? or did you just replace the thermistor? Did you clean out the hole where the thermistor goes?
lol. no. its not the solution. once you upgrade your mainboard to 4.2.7, and you use the creality firmware, you are on your own. you will be plagued by heating failed/ thermal runaway issues, because the software is broken.
Who said anything about upgrading your mainboard? sure was not me! this video tells how to upgrade your hot end and clean your thermistor. and this solution works. 100% i have helped and been thanked by at least a thousand people with this problem and it solved each one of the runaway problems.
Link to upgrade . www.amazon.com/dp/B09QMBMB6S?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details&th=1
Thanks
i almost never leave youtube comments but this felt very warranted for one. its been over a month straight now since picking up the hot end/thermister you recommended and i havent had a single issue since. this works so well they should honestly just include this. thank you so much for this info! I can even print ABS now which I could never do before without running into temp issues
Thank you for this tip! I had thermal runaway issues with my Ender3 V2 Neo, so I decided to order the kit. Here are my key takeaways:
-Thermal Runaway Warnings May Persist: The kit may still trigger thermal runaway warnings. This happens because you need to perform a PID tuning (or use MPC) for your new hotend. The firmware tries to predict temperature changes but fails since it's tuned for the original hotend, leading to larger temperature fluctuations. PID tuning is only possible with alternative firmware or terminal access to your printer (such as through OctoPrint).
-Thermistor Beta Value Differences: Even after PID tuning, you may still encounter runaway warnings. The thermistor in the kit has a different beta value than the stock one (3950 vs. 4092), which causes a temperature reading offset (10-20°C). This makes the temperature plot appear irregular. To fix this, you need firmware configured to recognize a T13 thermistor type (the stock thermistor is T1).
-Firmware Solution: I flashed the MRiscoc firmware, which conveniently offers a version with T13 pre-set. This resolved all the temperature issues.
-Ender3 V2 Neo-Specific Note: The heater block doesn’t fit directly onto the Neo heatsink. If you want to keep the Neo heatsink (I did, as the Ender 3 heatsink looks toylike compared to the Neos), you’ll need an M2x16 screw and tighten only one side of the heater block. This will result in a slightly skewed heater block, but print quality remains unaffected since the nozzle is still vertically aligned.
Hope this helps a few people!
A huge Thank You. I watched so many videos made by 3D printing "experts" and only yours got to the source of the issue. I would have never guessed without you, that the thermistor needs thermal paste to function properly. Greetings from Poland!
Glad it helped
I knew that was the problem but I didn't even think about cleaning out the old thermal compound and adding fresh stuff thankyou for your knowledge much appreciated.
Any time!
A Very straightforward tutorial with links. Super easy fix as I was running big prints and getting thermal runaways sometimes 8 hours in. Thank you for the information.
You are the one who has the solution for this and it took me 4 months to get to your channel! RUclips should place your video at the top! Thanks for the fix it really work like a charm!
You are welcome. glad you found this. i made this video cause all the other videos out there give bad info
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE VIDEO. I've had an Ender 3 NEO for 3 weeks and the last 4 days it's been giving me problems with hotend temperature instability and E1 errors.
I contacted Creality and they gave me erratic instructions, such as checking the thermistor screw or checking the wiring. Today they gave me an AUTOPID file to calibrate the temperatures but it didn't help either.
I watched your video and understood the problem, I'm going to order the kit, but I'm going to give a temporary solution for people who have the problem and can't buy the kit or it takes a while to arrive.
I've tried to remove the thermistor and it's been impossible without breaking it, and since I don't have a replacement, I've left it inside, but I've taken CPU thermal compound, one that I have that doesn't solidify, it stays liquid for a long time, and I've filled the thermistor hole sealing it from the outside.
I've been printing for 4 hours with the temperature totally stable, it doesn't move a degree!!! if this happens to you, until you get a new kit, try filling the entire thermistor hole with CPU thermal compound, it works!!! I don't know how long, but it works for now.
I am so grateful for this video, I'm a non technical mum and my son's ender 3 was beeping like hell.... I managed to put on a new hot end and then was stumped, irritated and going to cry quite honestly. This video solved my issue and if I could I would hug you! Thank you so much ❤😂
thank you for this, I cleaned mine and put some thermal paste on it, seems to be working great again. funny thing is that I just replaced the mainboard to make it silent. Never had a problem before, I think the old board didnt have thermal run away protection.... So Im pretty lucky to be finding it this way. thanks again!
Glad it helped
Is it the same thermal paste as cpu? How much paste?
@@clawsmedia8752yes I used cpu thermal paste but it only worked for a day and then I had to order a new sensor
You are a genius. I happened to have a tube of thermal paste right next to the printer. 2 min fix after 2 failed prints and a whole lot of cussing.
Every hotend I've installed has been dry so I never even thought about it but it's fixed and I have stable HE temps for the first time in forever!
Glad I could help
nice, i cleaned the Thermistor and seems to have fixed my problem for now. I already plan to upgrade to a new hot end as soon as i can but at least my machine is working again
Glad it helped. have a great day & happy printing!
Спасибо большое за подробное видео.
Благодаря вам ситуация стала намного яснее
Thank you so much for making this video. Just ordered an upgraded hotend for my Neptune 3 plus… hopefully this works
YOU RIGHT, I JUST TIDE THE SCREWS AND CLINE UP, ITS WORK.
Thank you for this advice. Unfortunately i bought my ender 3 v2 second hand and the thermistor was "in the air" inside the hole ,which i thought was proper.
Then the problems began and i couldn't figure it out.
Bought a new hotend from creality but after 7 months again the problems started.
I will try your advice on the next hotend i buy when this stops working.
Thanks for the video.
If this works I will endorse it as much as I possibly can
Thanks Brother. if you have any questions just ask. i like helping.
Well did it work
Did it work?
@@ChrisRiley3D-Everything so I ordered it and installed it the way you said and it worked for like a few prints then it started beeping again
@@Jake0663 Move your wire around and try that. sometimes mine will do this right out of the blue but i just wiggle the wires and it starts working again. Did you get the assembled kit or just the thermistor?
I had this happen to me recently, your solution worked. Thank you!!
Glad it helped!
Thanks a lot. I checked the price on Amazon ebay temu, but this is the cheapest solution.
Glad I could help
Notifications on for your content I appreciate you so much you have no idea I was on the path of destruction before this video 😂
Glad I could help
Thanks for sharing. I've yet to have thermal runaways, but I'd like to upgrade my thermistor. The heater block supplied in the kit is aluminum, the one I have is copper version of the stock aluminum (holes matches), which is better with transferring heat. Would that thermistor screw in where the captive screw would normally screw in?
my thermistor went out on the first day. I only had it running 30 min total. dont ask how. it just did. im going to install the new hot end when I get home from work then I'm printing a benchy for real this time. I know I can just use some of my thermal paste I used to build my pc. I use nth2 but I'm too lazy for that.
Don't forget to use thermal paste. I installed this and thermal runaway still. I then apply themal paste after reading what people are saying and now it runs.
I had a ton of problems and I mean a ton. Even had to refix the skeleton of the printer. And now this problem. I mean I will clean it if it'll be ok for 6 months tops. I just need to print a few things for now
interesting
funnyly enough my ender 3 came without thermal paste on thermistor so i never aplied it back when i replaced heat blocks 3 times
and it works all the same
don't really know how well it track the temperature but no runaways
Cleaned mine but also order this one just in case. thank you.
You are welcome. i have helped hundreds of people with this solution on other channels , thats why i made this video. you are not the first to thank me. i get that every few days! just glad i could help. have a nice day.
Thank You!!!
You're welcome!
first thing I did with mines was change out the hot end, never even booted it up, printed a few things and then a few weeks later it would go for like 5 to 10 minutes then give me an error.
saw that paste while I was changing the hot end, because I took the thermostat out, was hoping it would be an issue, guess ill find out in 10 minutes if it was.
Hey man so my 3d printer now heats up to 200 but the pla comes out cooled down still
Thank you. Just what I needed.
glad i could help. have a great day.
Thank you nice work👍 , as advised I cleaned up my thermoister and heating cartridge put them back and did a successful print , it's not showing any thermal runaway warning .
Thank you glad i could help. thats what this hobby is all about. you have a great day.
i am hoping this will work on my aquila pro, they are ender 3 clones, so fingers crossed
Mine had been working perfectly for like 2 years, I replaced the hotend and now it overheats. Did you find a solution?
I got the kit but then I opened the box to the motherboard I saw all the wires and I got scared I don’t want to mess anything up so I just left it alone I don’t know what to do can you do a video on installing it?
everything should just plug in. if they dont just cut the old wires from the heat block and splice the new heat block in. you cant cross the wires. just splice the big wires to the big wires and the small wires to the other small wires. you cant cross them, those wires dont have a positive and negative so you cant cross them, they will work wired ether way as long as you put the big wires with the big wires and small with the small.
Is thermistor runaway where the temperature constantly goes up and down but never stay at the temp the print is set at?
no. it is where the head keeps heating up until it gets way to hot and an alarm goes off and the print stops.
Hey man I bought the kit and put it together but I still get the problem
You replaced the whole hot end and thermistor and are still getting a thermal runaway? can you make a video and show it and show what it's doing. maybe we could help you more then. if you do make a video come back here and let me know so i can go watch it and try to help.
@@ChrisRiley3D-Everything yes sure I’ll let you know
I don't have an Ender but I have an Aquila, is it possible that the fan itself could throw the thermal error? I recently upgraded my hotend fan and since that I've been getting this error, and the fan is a significant upgrade so I'm wondering if that could be an issue?
Im sorry but i have no idea.
Thank you!
You're welcome!
Thanks:)
Hello there.
Is this kit available for Europe regions ? I'm interested for Greece specifically. So any German or Spain seller available ?! Thank you in advance
sorry i have no idea
@@ChrisRiley3D-Everything Hey ! Ive found it on aliexpress.
Thank you for your answer.
i ordered the kit , hopefully that will solve it
it should. i love my kit. if you have any questions just ask. i like helping.
So I bought my 3d printer used and it already has that upgrade kit. It's giving me this problem. Is there anything else I can do?
You must have a bad thermistor.
@@ChrisRiley3D-Everything thank you Ive been stuck trying to figure it out
Hello! How has the kit held up over time, are any modifications to the firmware needed?
Oddly, I can't find many sources about thermistors like this so I'm a little warry of buying any. I've had thermal runaway E1 issues since I got my Ender 3 Pro though, and I'm pretty desperate for a fix at this point.
This kit is awesome. it is still doing great. no problems at all. no modifications needed. just remove your old hot end and replace with this new one and plug up the wire or splice the wires for longer wires like i did in this video. this new hot end already comes assembled so just bolt it on, it's that simple. Thermal runaway E1 is a thing of the past for me now. enjoy brother. and this kit is awesome for the price!
@@ChrisRiley3D-Everything just got one for myself, can't wait to test it out. Thank you for the video :-)
@@jace-vo2xl glad i could help brother.
can this be used on an Ender 5 as well?
i'm not sure. all i have is the Ender 3
I just put mine in and it is still going into thermal runaway. It just randomly started too, I printed fine for months.
You replaced the thermister and hot end? and its still doing it? or did you just replace the thermistor? Did you clean out the hole where the thermistor goes?
Дякую
Will this hot end work with a CR10S? I see it is ender 3
Sorry i have no idea. i only know it works on the ender 3
Thanks boss
You are welcome.
is the kit compatible with the ender 5 plus?
sorry bro i have no idea.
lol. no. its not the solution. once you upgrade your mainboard to 4.2.7, and you use the creality firmware, you are on your own. you will be plagued by heating failed/ thermal runaway issues, because the software is broken.
Who said anything about upgrading your mainboard? sure was not me! this video tells how to upgrade your hot end and clean your thermistor. and this solution works. 100% i have helped and been thanked by at least a thousand people with this problem and it solved each one of the runaway problems.