Great advice, throttle is your friend. If you think will fall over, pin it! Also if you are coming to a stop, pull in clutch and tap brakes, it will create a firmer footprint. Lastly, send it!
Awesome deep dive, I'm renting from these guys in Buena Vista in a couple weeks and I had no idea what to expect having been a street guy my whole life for the most part.
Ive got a dr650, its a pig but im curious as to how it would handle. Spoke to the guys in bozeman, said it would be the first time anyone has ever strapped one to a dr.
if youre planning on riding trails and mellow stuff it would probably be fine but in deep powder or steep hill climbs it wouldn’t work at all, which is probably why nobody has done it on a dr650
So I’m in Southeast Alaska, and our snow can be a bit more wet at times because we’re so close to the water… How would/does it perform with that denser snow? Thinking about getting a kit for my YZ450F.
I imagine wet means it’s more packed down. The bike definitely was more fun in soft fresh powder but still a blast to ride in more packed snow. Just was more difficult to turn.
Yo man I'm up here too. Just drove up the Big Susitna a few weeks ago. I got a 2012 450f with a timbersled on it and the sucker rocks In most kinds of snow. Even the annoying ice glazed powder wasn't too bad to ride on. It also draws far shallower then my Summit and I can play around and enjoy the snow even if its a foot deep, whereas my Summit is really limited until you can get into the deeper stuff. As far as the wetter soggy snow we've got right about now, it still plays just fine and doesn't get stuck as much as my sled. Packed trails are just the worst however. Especially parking lots and such. The best way I can describe the steering is like wrestling for the controls with an orangutan. When you get into the fresh stuff it'll all be worth it. Lmk if you've got any more questions brother, its #### loads of fun.
@@lwells9930 I’m in Anchorage, I have a 2020 FE501s and I’m fully opening her up, should be pushing about 50-55 hp once everything is all said and done. What timbersled would you recommend for this area? I’m leaning towards the riot 3 but wanted to talk to someone here about it first
@@ericstocki9071 You know what boss I'm not a great person to ask that lol. I've ridden a buddies Riot a couple times and otherwise just my mountain-horse which is a bit older. What I can tell you is it depends oh what snow you want to ride on, the riots are awesome in powder/meh snow and the valley and anchorage has questionable snow quality at times so that'd work pretty well. I've never ridden an Aro but I think their specialized for powdery mountains and that's about it. So unless you only plan on taking it to Paxon or Fairbanks or maybe Hatchers on the best of days, I can't say I'd recommend the ARO but if that's your thing... So long story short if I were in your shoes yes I'd probably get the riot for up here, you're definitely not going to be disappointed.
I was thinking of the kit for making a multi purpose transportation. But this looks like its way hard to use for transportation. What do you think ? Just description tip I here is its like a jet ski(water scado) + bike type of ride.
I used one to go 80 miles up a frozen powder river with a bunch of snowmachines. Utility wise it defiantly doesn't compare to a snowmachine and cant tow, haul, or trail ride near as well. That being said it depends on where you want to go. I grabbed a backpack with the gear I'd need overnight and a rear gas can/bags and combined I could carry everything I'd need. Also the terrain you're going to be on really matters for endurance reasons. If you can go off trail into even mild powder (anything over a foot deep) then you'll be golden and the deeper the snow the more fun you can have. However the same goes the other way too. The harder the snow the worse your experience and stamina drain will be. Super hard packed parking lots or groomed trails are AWFUL and the steering is like wrestling an orangutan whereas kind of packed snow trails that have been ridden over a few times isn't horrible and can actually be kind of fun. Trails that'experience Basically it depends on where you plan on going and what kind of snow you'll be riding on the majority of the time.
I converted my 2020 CRF 450 L into a snow bike, it’s got lots of mods for more power, which you definitely need, electric hand grip warmers as well and extra power outlet for defroster for helmet, shield, if you have perfect conditions out there with lots of powder on a good base, it is absolutely incredible, if you’re on ice, your life sucks! And yes, the number one thing you have to remember is fucking send it!
Timbersled webpage has a huge list of conversion for a variety of brands but not the KLR. I’d imagine that need some additional modifications. Not sure how the power to weight ratio would do either.
Being a life long motorcycle enthusiast; competitor in Motocross-road racing- sport bike road rider and now avid Track Day addict. Now all my riding is done with muscle memory. Question: and perhaps your may be unable to answer this inquiry. Do you counter steer a snow bike like is mandatory on a wheeled motorcycle. Many motorcyclist do not understand the concept of counter steering even though we all do it to change directions on motorcycles. ruclips.net/video/Ko6EOQOAQCY/видео.html
Yes I feel it was still Necessary to counter steer on the timber sled. I think the natural Skills used to ride these still applied despite the lack of tires.
@@TheBoyers Really appreciate the reply. Looking forward to my first experience. Hoping to hook up with some local enthusiast in my area around Pendleton Oregon or booking a multi-day guided excursion. Good video by the way.
So far this has been the most informative, honest, and accurate review thus far. Well worth the six minutes. Thank you!
Really appreciate the kind words and happy to help!
Great advice, throttle is your friend. If you think will fall over, pin it! Also if you are coming to a stop, pull in clutch and tap brakes, it will create a firmer footprint. Lastly, send it!
When in doubt throttle out. That's great advce on the firmer footprint!
Exactly what I needed, thanks for the video.
Happy to help!
Thanks for this insight. I’m pulling the trigger and purchasing one this week!
Awesome, and not a problem! Congrats on the soon purchase.
Awesome deep dive, I'm renting from these guys in Buena Vista in a couple weeks and I had no idea what to expect having been a street guy my whole life for the most part.
You’ll have fun. Just takes a bit to adapt. Enjoy!!
Great review! I'm going to have to give this a try.
It was worth it for sure!!
Nice video. Well done. I’m liking the snowbike thing.
Thanks so much! Yea, it was a blast for sure.
Well done man! Glad you had a blast! If you ever want to ride Utah hit us up!
Awesome will do. Love to make it out there. You all have some amazing scenery over there!!
@@TheBoyers I look forward to it. Yes our scenery is top notch!!
Excellent video, I enjoyed a lot.
Thank you!
So helpful. Thank you.
Glad some of the information helped!!
Defiantly something I would have to try before I buy. My impression is there isn't enough motor to make these fun.
Thats what many think. Its ok, More goodies for us to shred vs. sleds
Great Job man, appreciate it!
No problem!
Great vid, Thanks bud👍
Just let me try this once in a lifetime....🤩
It’s worth it!
@@TheBoyers place where I live , i dont have winters like that. We only have winter 3 months here.
@@TheBoyers maybe someday, somewhere👍
Thank u for information 💕❤❤❤
Thanks for the knowledge 😄
No problem!!
great info, thanks
Happy to hear. Glad to help.
I'm surprised by the learning curve you experienced. I thought it would easy. I bet it was a blast though.
It was a blast for sure but I was def shocked on the learning curve as I went in thinking it be easy with my dirt-bike experience.
what size bike did you use, thank you for this video, good job!
450sxf
Ive got a dr650, its a pig but im curious as to how it would handle. Spoke to the guys in bozeman, said it would be the first time anyone has ever strapped one to a dr.
if youre planning on riding trails and mellow stuff it would probably be fine but in deep powder or steep hill climbs it wouldn’t work at all, which is probably why nobody has done it on a dr650
Awesome!!! But for god sake, is there no Cut Of Safety Wire?? Imagine throttle lock and you fall under the belt.
I'm sure something can be set up.
So I’m in Southeast Alaska, and our snow can be a bit more wet at times because we’re so close to the water… How would/does it perform with that denser snow? Thinking about getting a kit for my YZ450F.
I imagine wet means it’s more packed down. The bike definitely was more fun in soft fresh powder but still a blast to ride in more packed snow. Just was more difficult to turn.
Yo man I'm up here too. Just drove up the Big Susitna a few weeks ago. I got a 2012 450f with a timbersled on it and the sucker rocks In most kinds of snow. Even the annoying ice glazed powder wasn't too bad to ride on. It also draws far shallower then my Summit and I can play around and enjoy the snow even if its a foot deep, whereas my Summit is really limited until you can get into the deeper stuff. As far as the wetter soggy snow we've got right about now, it still plays just fine and doesn't get stuck as much as my sled. Packed trails are just the worst however. Especially parking lots and such. The best way I can describe the steering is like wrestling for the controls with an orangutan. When you get into the fresh stuff it'll all be worth it. Lmk if you've got any more questions brother, its #### loads of fun.
@@lwells9930 Thanks a bunch for chiming in and giving some better insight!
@@lwells9930 I’m in Anchorage, I have a 2020 FE501s and I’m fully opening her up, should be pushing about 50-55 hp once everything is all said and done. What timbersled would you recommend for this area? I’m leaning towards the riot 3 but wanted to talk to someone here about it first
@@ericstocki9071 You know what boss I'm not a great person to ask that lol. I've ridden a buddies Riot a couple times and otherwise just my mountain-horse which is a bit older. What I can tell you is it depends oh what snow you want to ride on, the riots are awesome in powder/meh snow and the valley and anchorage has questionable snow quality at times so that'd work pretty well. I've never ridden an Aro but I think their specialized for powdery mountains and that's about it. So unless you only plan on taking it to Paxon or Fairbanks or maybe Hatchers on the best of days, I can't say I'd recommend the ARO but if that's your thing... So long story short if I were in your shoes yes I'd probably get the riot for up here, you're definitely not going to be disappointed.
Love it
Thank you!!
I was thinking of the kit for making a multi purpose transportation. But this looks like its way hard to use for transportation. What do you think ?
Just description tip I here is its like a jet ski(water scado) + bike type of ride.
Yea not something I’d use for transportation.
I used one to go 80 miles up a frozen powder river with a bunch of snowmachines. Utility wise it defiantly doesn't compare to a snowmachine and cant tow, haul, or trail ride near as well. That being said it depends on where you want to go. I grabbed a backpack with the gear I'd need overnight and a rear gas can/bags and combined I could carry everything I'd need. Also the terrain you're going to be on really matters for endurance reasons. If you can go off trail into even mild powder (anything over a foot deep) then you'll be golden and the deeper the snow the more fun you can have. However the same goes the other way too. The harder the snow the worse your experience and stamina drain will be. Super hard packed parking lots or groomed trails are AWFUL and the steering is like wrestling an orangutan whereas kind of packed snow trails that have been ridden over a few times isn't horrible and can actually be kind of fun. Trails that'experience
Basically it depends on where you plan on going and what kind of snow you'll be riding on the majority of the time.
Around how much $ for the tour/rentals? Great video man! ✌
When we went in 2021 it was $450 for a full day rental.
I converted my 2020 CRF 450 L into a snow bike, it’s got lots of mods for more power, which you definitely need, electric hand grip warmers as well and extra power outlet for defroster for helmet, shield, if you have perfect conditions out there with lots of powder on a good base, it is absolutely incredible, if you’re on ice, your life sucks! And yes, the number one thing you have to remember is fucking send it!
hi guys how much KW need one bike so he can pull easy timbersled?
I have ktm 2011 exc 400 with 32kw? is he strong enough for timbersled?
Dumb question, what boot did you wear that was warm and could still shift?
I rode with the KLIM Adrenaline GTX boots
Stop making me envious!
haha. Guess you'll just have to come along for the adventure next time.
Are they a cinch to clean having had no dirt spray?
For sure. Don’t have all the mud and dirt to worry about.
There's such little information about these kits. Is there any reason this wouldn't fit a 2006 KLR?
Timbersled webpage has a huge list of conversion for a variety of brands but not the KLR. I’d imagine that need some additional modifications. Not sure how the power to weight ratio would do either.
@@TheBoyers I have no idea but how much width difference is there from where the swing arms are from a 450 compared to a 650?
Starting and stopping take the most getting used to. The rest pretty much is like a bike. And yes they sukkkkkk on hardpack!
It definitely did! Glad the hardpack difficulty wasn't just me.
You need to build a RD type high power two stroke instead of a single four stroke that bog down.
That sounds amazing! Braaaap!
Do you guys think 250 bike is enough or 450 is better snow biking?
I felt so bad for that 450. No chance a 250 is enough.
What modifications to the bike is needed ?
Timbersled makes kits for the bikes. I'm sure there are other options out there but that is the one I know of. timbersled.com
How much to rent bike
In 2021 when we went it was 450 dollars for the day.
With GPS on your phone how do you get lost ?
Phone battery didn’t last terribly long for me in the cold. Lack of service as well. I’m sure there are some offline download options out there.
Talks about fresh powder then shows video riding in packed rut from another snow biker…. Lol so did you try fresh powder without training wheels?🤙🏻
There is a whole series
Of the trip and riding. But yes.
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Best comment!
Gotta bend the brim of your hat, bro.
Thanks for the style advice, bro.
Being a life long motorcycle enthusiast; competitor in Motocross-road racing- sport bike road rider and now avid Track Day addict. Now all my riding is done with muscle memory. Question: and perhaps your may be unable to answer this inquiry. Do you counter steer a snow bike like is mandatory on a wheeled motorcycle. Many motorcyclist do not understand the concept of counter steering even though we all do it to change directions on motorcycles. ruclips.net/video/Ko6EOQOAQCY/видео.html
Yes I feel it was still
Necessary to counter steer on the timber sled. I think the natural
Skills used to ride these still applied despite the lack of tires.
@@TheBoyers Really appreciate the reply. Looking forward to my first experience. Hoping to hook up with some local enthusiast in my area around Pendleton Oregon or booking a multi-day guided excursion. Good video by the way.
@@richardoja4049 Thanks! Yea you'll have a little adaption period but pick it up pretty quick with all your 2 wheel experience. You'll have a blast.
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Talk to someone that owns one yall
Agreed and can definitely learn a lot more from someone that rides these all the time! The thing was sure fun to rip for a few days!
You need to put a super duke 1290 engine into the 450 frame. It’s got 190 hp and 100 lbsft.
It could definitely use that extra power!