@@BTN780 Can't agree more. Recenly LS seemed like being addicted to randomly thinking any team will pick udyr regardless the teamcomp or champ pool (I mean he clearly don't know what champ pool does these teams get as a "Coach"), Also he keep stating that if the team does nothing while being ahead they can win while completely ignoring the teamcomp and the pressure of attacking. These clips are no longer informative and valuable for people who really want to get knowledge about pro plays in S12. I mean, he even can't evaluate the team comp and identify the counter. In a T1 video clip several days ago he questioned picking j4 against aphelios and ryze, and I was totally shocked since j4 is such an obvious and strong counter to 2 immobile champions
@@Shreddasaurus how did something like you grow hands is beyond me. I'm not even gonna explain you how wrong you are since you can't even use your eyeballs
I believe bwipo also talked with like Scrubnoob etc about rengar top. He really likes to talk to OneTricks to learn a new champ. Another example which comes to my mind is Riven, when he shoutouted AdrianRiven and GeneralSniper. Really like bwipo cuz of things like that his such a good player and has a huge passion for the game
Sounds like Yu-Gi-Oh where there's a ban list and you have to play with what you got. If we can give the newly released champions and the reworks aside, it would open for more innovative picks.
This has to be one of the stupidest ideas yet. Just think for longer than 2 seconds, this would just make it so we have a new meta but with different champs, instead of jinx vs aphelios every game it would be miss fortune vs ashe or something. Pros will always try and pick the best possible champs.
At 11:00 Drututt start talking about add-ons and linking your account to twitch. Actually Sardoche (french streamer) had to do this since his chat was backsitting him when they were all behind gold. He put the addon in sort that you can't talk in chat unless you are at least gold 1. 90% of chat message was erased automatically XD
5:00 what u said about diet coke insuline response and storing fat even tho its 0 calories is actually wrong , a lot of studies showed it has no difference :) its an argument used by people who promote fasting etc . but its already being debunked several times
I really wanted actual analysis this game, but that costream turned podcast was amazing. Who needs analysis when you have him on that stream was so funny
ACTIVE: Jax enters Evasion, a defensive stance, for 2 seconds, causing all non-turret basic attacks against him to be dodged. Jax also takes 25% reduced damage from all champion area of effect abilities. Counter Strike can be recast after 1 second. At the end of the duration, Jax stuns all nearby enemies for 1 second and deals physical damage to them, increased by 20% for each attack dodged, up to a 100% increase.
نشط: يدخل Jax في Evasion ، وهو موقف دفاعي ، لمدة ثانيتين ، مما يتسبب في تفادي Counter Strike لجميع الهجمات الأساسية التي لا تحتوي على برج. يأخذ Jax أيضًا ضررًا مخفضًا بنسبة 25٪ من جميع قدرات منطقة الت
@@sugar4936 Summit played the matchup very well. He never allowed Jax to be Jax. He's hit Jax once or twice then spin away in the early game. If Jax chased, he just misses minions and has no chance to kill Tryn. As the game progressed, Summit played very safe. It's hard to punish Tryn when he is playing as safe as Summit was. Picking Jax was just dumb imo. It takes too long to ramp up, and TL were dumb and wasted too much time trying to punish Tryn
@5:05 kind of random but this is true, prime example of this would be looking at ketone production i think it is, burning energy via fat can be tracked from how many ketones are produced as a byproduct and in the case of water fasting vs keto vs zero calorie drinks it went 1.water fasting 2.keto 3. cheat water fasting (drinking bone broth and zero calorie drinks), i think the sweeteners in 0 calorie drinks helped cause the response he's talking about, there is a really good research paper on it if you google something along the lines of fat burning in water fasting, that does a better job of explaining it (not even sure im recalling the right things here so go check it out if you're interested in dieting). even eating proteins during a water fast can put you out of fat burning mode since there is a way for the body to synthesise proteins into carb based energy (gluconeogenesis)
Probably you've all already thought of it, but the I just thought of the idea of a podcast with druttut about soloq, Smth like pro/solo views face to face, cause ls is basically the best in understanding pro play and druttut is the best representation of high skill, understanding of soloq and of average toxic although thoughtful player
10:45 Tryndamere CAN win mid-late game against Jax as long as he is ahead, but if he doesn't have kraken he gets giga-outscaled at 2 items, if Jax 2nd item is either Frozen Heart or Randuins, but if he does have Kraken Tryndamere should still win. However, if they are even, Jax should outscale even in lane after plated steelcaps and sheen. In that scenario, if Tryndamere somehow can go even, at 1 item he has a chance if his mythic is Kraken (shouldn't matter much if Jax mythic is Trinity or Sunderer.). But after 3 items Tryndamere has no counterplay, Jax just turbo outscales him, and it only gets worse after that. Even if Tryndamere could build a specifically anti-Jax build with 6 items, something like Kraken, Navori, IE, Dominik, Cleaver and Hullbreaker or BORK or PD, Jax will have no problem at all 100 to 0ing Tryndamere, since Jax gets waaay too tanky, deals waaay too damage, and his E has a reaaaally short cooldown.
Which team you want to win? LS: TL, obviously... I mean, wtf? Also LS: 'cuz they have better draft, I want better draft teams to win. Of course LS, I believe you.
Ls the diet soda thing is a comolete meme, as long as you maintain a calorie deficit, the insulin response from the sweetness can't cause your body to create extra energy out of nowhere. Diet soft drinks help with satiety and are incredibly potent weight loss tools
It’s pretty simple calories in vs calories out fasting only helps cause you eat less food nothing wrong with diet soda nothing special either if you like them drink them
The insulin thing seems pretty nonsensical. But, after becoming curious about this subject and looking at some journals I find it very strange that most studies looking into the effects of artificial sweeteners on satiety are done on people with medically healthy BMIs. So the claim that diet soda actually helps with satiety, at least in terms of leptin + feedback with your hypothalamus, seems similarly unproven (but artificial sweeteners aren't harmful either in regards to leptin). From the literature (only looked for like an hour tho tbh) positive effects of diet sodas seems mostly to do with motivated behavior/satisfaction rather than any dietary hormone activity (insulin, leptin, ghrelin). I don't want to be reductive and say feeling full == nervous + endocrine systems, but like biomedically speaking it doesn't seem like diet soda is doing much for you beyond containing less sugar (which is still helpful). Neurologically speaking it still activates very similar dopaminergic pathways in the brain, so diet soda can definitely satisfy/pleasure you in similar ways. Also, not claiming to be an expert. 4th year bio major with familiarity with Neuro. familiar with reading studies at the very least lol.
LS, something not on the topic. Can you somehow find a way to address Yamato and his "S-tier" champs obsession? Yamato has 3 of the best LEC players and puts them in a cage. Why?.. It works vs some of the teams in LEC but vs the best from LCK and LPL it would take more than choosing S-tier champs. He should get creative. Some of G2's international wins in the past were exactly because of C-tier unexpected picks, way more than G2 players' ability to play better vs some LCK teams. Even Faker has learned his lesson on standard picks and is risking so much in draft and it almost always works: with Kai'sa, Trynda, Lux mid...
Looking at Bwipo's behavior before the game, having watched him for years in the LEC, I knew he was too nervous and tilted even before the game. Poor Bwipo, I know he could do so much better but under so much media pressure I just knew he would crumble and int the game.
hard to perform when Santorin dashes into the Viktor stun and tunnels on viktor during Herald fight giving tryndamere an easy fight. And please watch at 7:42 and tell me that Santorin couldn't kill tryndamere (ult had expired and viego have R), not only that but could also 2v1 the kench and trundle using tryndamere damage + R reset / after that play trydamere recalled with 1700G because kill + turret And because top has no turret and is pushed to T2 Trynd can roam bot and dive them ANY LPL or LCK jungler would have waked away from the top fight with at least 1 kill and the turret protected Santorin is just hot garbage
@@EricksonSRS bruh you just listed very dumb mistakes to call on. 1. is at least more unstandable. 2. you expect him to beat tryn 1v3 with a full rage bar to heal from? not to mention when tahm still has R? tryn can not 1v2 trundle and tahm both champs are built for killing one person and they can run to their tower. LCK/LPL would position better for this fight and to grab at least one kill or not fight at all. saying they would go 1v3 for a small chance to get a kill is extremely stupid. you'd shit on him if he went and didnt get it anyway.
I agree. His kg helped a lot in losing the game. TL has to do better with the jg I think (as he is TL weakest link), but as a whole Bwipo didn't play as well as I know he can and I just stayed it was because of his nerves. Did you see him laugh nervously before game?
Came here because of people in Bwipo's pregame interview comments saying summit destroyed him and I'm not really seeing it? Only by a small margin but Bwipo was winning lane and getting the better end of trades... on a jax vs a trynd in the EARLY game. Even after that herald fight he was still winning 1v1 lane trades. Not sure about the running it mid though. Plus in Bwipo's interview all he was saying is that whilst summit is good, the strategy he uses won't work against better players, and the same is simply true for C9 as a team. That doesn't discredit that the team is good, or that the players are good, there's just always a bigger fish and C9 won't be able to adapt to that if they keep playing this way.
Currently high gold this season, but sadly hardstuck plat since forever. So how is yone not broken? I mean 2 items he just e tornado q and 2 autos and people fall over no?Im curious and want to learn and see people's opinion.
He has to hit his skillshots, if he doesn't hit ult on at least 2-3 people he's sub par, he can get cc locked easily even when in e, he has to charge q up which when objectives are up isn't that easy, hence engaging with r which is easy to play around, in top lane his laning is ass. He isn't all that good at this point but was insanely broken before they nerfed lethal multiple times.
@@tokiliam6015 None of them stacked MR but 3 had MR (mercs on Jax and Viego + Jax ult MR + Leona locket + locket consecrate passive on all members). That would be fine on its own, but ALL of them build HP (Jax with trinity at the bare minimum, likely builds more HP if the game continues, Viego with sunderer, Ryze with everfrost and fimbulwinter, almost every item that Zeri builds, all of Leona's items). The value on Liandry's into all of that HP is extremely high. Shadowflame flat pen is based on current HP, so its value is diminished when hitting higher HP targets. Also, if they have low enough MR that Ludens + Shadowflame is good, there's no way void staff is the best third item. Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong. I'm only posting this bc I want to understand.
@@falsepanda2981 I agree that Liandry's would have also been good here. The reason why I think Shadowflame is fine here is because it's the second highest AP item after deathcap which is good on Viktor and because it gives maximum magic pen against shielded enemies. Zeri passive, Fimbulwinter, Nautilus W and locket all give shields. I have no clue why he built void staff third tho tbh. Maybe if you do the math it's actually worth but I don't really know.
not really looking at the state of the game. they dont even have that much health built up yet and c9 is dominating while fudge's build has a better early game spike. most health is zeri or ryze which of whom does not have mr yet. health doesn't matter against pen if you dont have MR.
@@Darkstormsun9865 I'll have to check in practice tool later, but from against 1 HP item (which every enemy builds first) Liandry's should already be outperforming against Ludens. in concept it should be better at every point in the game here. For the mythic, it's not about the flat pen just the value of Liandry's vs HP. With that said, flat mpen gold efficiency drops off rather hard against even a single null-magic mantle (part of why Viego and Jax built them despite Viktor being the sole AP threat). +Leona locket + consecrate passive Despite that, I don't think Shadowflame is a problem here. If it isn't though, in what universe does building void third make sense here?
the add-on is done by a french streamer Sardoche lmao, with prime the bot can see the rank of player and if the viewer is below platinium he can't talk
Ok so from LS’s comment about why he wants TL to win in relation to strategy and LCK, he wants NA to stick to their own style and Improve upon( now possible with champions q)that to the point where it is competitive with the LCK, I really like that thinking
Yeah personally I don't like this co-stream.. Druttut is very hard to understand, and is distracting LS from making statements on the game.. LS also missed the most important play of the game. I probably won't be back watching these if this Druttut guy is sticking around.
Even though C9 planned around the Trynda blind quite well with the Gragas ban and the Trundle pick, the Ryze top flex into counterpick mid would have destroyed them. I'm guessing Bwipo isn't comfortable on him
@@Darkstormsun9865 but I got lost in my own train of thought and clicked “send” too swiftly so I fucked up. Idgaf. End of the day, blaber gapped santorin… bjersen is dog shit and fudge is a better mid. TL is trash, the analysts have IQs combined of a whopping 62, and TL fans are salty they suck more than 10 dollar bookers on quarter nights.
not even looking at the game just rambling about random stuffs. Maybe Summit and Berserker just can't take any more analogy about card games, dragon balls, and pokemon XD
Summit is far better as a laner and his mid late game and teamfighting are rly good. LS already said multiple times he thinks summit blaber berserker are best in their roles.
Jokes on you Drututt! I am silver and don't think Yone is broken! With the shit that is happening in low elo everything appears broken so how am I going to figure out what actually is? I do NOT like his kit from a design perspective. I think his Q looks very silly and I don't get why his kit is so close to Yasuo's when Yi and Wukong have nothing in common.
LS, zero sugar is terrible for you more than you response seemed to say, is filled with a massive amount of fluoride, which is why we are all keyed down robots
Kinda crazy these teams really don't have like... Identity.. Anymore. Like if you're rooting for c9, who are you rooting for ON the team? Blabber maybe? Even then, is that really c9? I could argue something very similar for TL. Bjerg was teh face of TSM so long that I'm still getting used to it. Nowadays there's a distinct lack of flavor in the NA region. IMO, we should stop tryna pretend we care about international tournies and just make LCS into a gamer version of WWE.
Bro I watched this and as much as I enjoyed C9 securing 1st place over TL I just couldn't enjoy it because of LS and what happened ... Holly fuck mate I really wanted to watch LS draft with Korea 9 ... I feel bad, sorry
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14:08 Drututt with the insightful high-elo analysis
This whole video was LS saying "what what just happend i missed it" and Drututt making a statement that was proven wrong shortly after.
Loved it.
Druttut: “It’s NA anything can happen.”
As he says that C9 throws invading enemy jungle.
This was exactly what the video was and I was not a fan..
LS barely paid attention and Drututt was rambling and wrong almost the whole time lol.
@@BTN780 Can't agree more. Recenly LS seemed like being addicted to randomly thinking any team will pick udyr regardless the teamcomp or champ pool (I mean he clearly don't know what champ pool does these teams get as a "Coach"), Also he keep stating that if the team does nothing while being ahead they can win while completely ignoring the teamcomp and the pressure of attacking. These clips are no longer informative and valuable for people who really want to get knowledge about pro plays in S12. I mean, he even can't evaluate the team comp and identify the counter. In a T1 video clip several days ago he questioned picking j4 against aphelios and ryze, and I was totally shocked since j4 is such an obvious and strong counter to 2 immobile champions
@@Shreddasaurus maybe actually turn your brain and the monitor on?
@@Shreddasaurus how did something like you grow hands is beyond me. I'm not even gonna explain you how wrong you are since you can't even use your eyeballs
I believe bwipo also talked with like Scrubnoob etc about rengar top. He really likes to talk to OneTricks to learn a new champ. Another example which comes to my mind is Riven, when he shoutouted AdrianRiven and GeneralSniper. Really like bwipo cuz of things like that his such a good player and has a huge passion for the game
"Okey now it's not winnable anymore" *As the nexus explodes*
its always winnable until your nexus spontaneously combusts
Yes I too watched the video
Now we just need to bring rat and LS together
Fk yeah we do
I want to see Rat vod review LS's AP twitch games. That is some banger content
The S would turn into a 9 real quick
@@ahmedhossam2035 goated comment
but sadly anton has passed away. fly high little rat
The colaboration we never knew we needed
I can't find the whole stream on his twitch... Can you link it pls? Or is it not available anymore?
We need a league where top 20 most played champs are banned just to see what people would resort to
soloq champs...
Sounds like Yu-Gi-Oh where there's a ban list and you have to play with what you got. If we can give the newly released champions and the reworks aside, it would open for more innovative picks.
Yeah, pro league needs a ban list of champs for the entire season. Just so we can see some cool picks.
This has to be one of the stupidest ideas yet. Just think for longer than 2 seconds, this would just make it so we have a new meta but with different champs, instead of jinx vs aphelios every game it would be miss fortune vs ashe or something. Pros will always try and pick the best possible champs.
@@blackpker124 this does happen riot bans champs by Errataing (nerfing) them and making them unplayable
I swear a costream with Ls, baus, druttut and ratirl would be the funniest thing of all time
baus doesnt give a fuck. I wanna see ratirl in there
or just watch lcs (:
I'd pay good money to see this go down
@@todorplavic5827 YAMATO
@@midgap1804 OH SHIT HOW COULD I FORGET!!!?? The resident mental mid laner Yamator faker dopamine
At 11:00 Drututt start talking about add-ons and linking your account to twitch. Actually Sardoche (french streamer) had to do this since his chat was backsitting him when they were all behind gold. He put the addon in sort that you can't talk in chat unless you are at least gold 1. 90% of chat message was erased automatically XD
How would you even do that?
@@jordidewaard2937 twitch & riot can be linked and both have fairly open APIs/integration
Thank you multi billionaire Drututt for supporting the small streamer LS. You’re such a kind man.
That gravity field at 5:04 destroyed TL for the rest of the game and the casters barely mentioned it
you actually expect them to say LOOK AT THAT GRAVITY FIELD, when it only stuns a jax and viego? they lost when bwipo got caught.
5:00 what u said about diet coke insuline response and storing fat even tho its 0 calories is actually wrong , a lot of studies showed it has no difference :)
its an argument used by people who promote fasting etc . but its already being debunked several times
Thank you. So frustrating hearing people state things as fact when it flies in the face of the research
I hear so many different/conflicting "facts" about diet sodas I never really know what to believe besides just avoiding soda in general
@@ThePizzafication either stick to water or find yourself an evidence based source who interprets research for you. Someone like Biolayne for example
@@Shreddasaurus because it tastes good.
never expected a collab like this, never
It's amazing
"is yone broken? everyone below gold says yes, high elo says no" this is so true
I cannot believe LS got Doctor on stream!
I really wanted actual analysis this game, but that costream turned podcast was amazing. Who needs analysis when you have him on that stream was so funny
ACTIVE: Jax enters Evasion, a defensive stance, for 2 seconds, causing all non-turret basic attacks against him to be dodged. Jax also takes 25% reduced damage from all champion area of effect abilities. Counter Strike can be recast after 1 second.
At the end of the duration, Jax stuns all nearby enemies for 1 second and deals physical damage to them, increased by 20% for each attack dodged, up to a 100% increase.
As a jax main, watching bwipo lose to a trynda hurt my soul
نشط: يدخل Jax في Evasion ، وهو موقف دفاعي ، لمدة ثانيتين ، مما يتسبب في تفادي Counter Strike لجميع الهجمات الأساسية التي لا تحتوي على برج. يأخذ Jax أيضًا ضررًا مخفضًا بنسبة 25٪ من جميع قدرات منطقة الت
@@sugar4936 Summit played the matchup very well. He never allowed Jax to be Jax. He's hit Jax once or twice then spin away in the early game. If Jax chased, he just misses minions and has no chance to kill Tryn. As the game progressed, Summit played very safe. It's hard to punish Tryn when he is playing as safe as Summit was. Picking Jax was just dumb imo. It takes too long to ramp up, and TL were dumb and wasted too much time trying to punish Tryn
@@faveology getting those kills at the herald fight certainly helped too
@5:05 kind of random but this is true, prime example of this would be looking at ketone production i think it is, burning energy via fat can be tracked from how many ketones are produced as a byproduct and in the case of water fasting vs keto vs zero calorie drinks it went 1.water fasting 2.keto 3. cheat water fasting (drinking bone broth and zero calorie drinks), i think the sweeteners in 0 calorie drinks helped cause the response he's talking about, there is a really good research paper on it if you google something along the lines of fat burning in water fasting, that does a better job of explaining it (not even sure im recalling the right things here so go check it out if you're interested in dieting). even eating proteins during a water fast can put you out of fat burning mode since there is a way for the body to synthesise proteins into carb based energy (gluconeogenesis)
Thank you LS for gifting me a lambargoni and paying my college fees.
Probably you've all already thought of it, but the I just thought of the idea of a podcast with druttut about soloq, Smth like pro/solo views face to face, cause ls is basically the best in understanding pro play and druttut is the best representation of high skill, understanding of soloq and of average toxic although thoughtful player
10:45
Tryndamere CAN win mid-late game against Jax as long as he is ahead, but if he doesn't have kraken he gets giga-outscaled at 2 items, if Jax 2nd item is either Frozen Heart or Randuins, but if he does have Kraken Tryndamere should still win. However, if they are even, Jax should outscale even in lane after plated steelcaps and sheen. In that scenario, if Tryndamere somehow can go even, at 1 item he has a chance if his mythic is Kraken (shouldn't matter much if Jax mythic is Trinity or Sunderer.). But after 3 items Tryndamere has no counterplay, Jax just turbo outscales him, and it only gets worse after that. Even if Tryndamere could build a specifically anti-Jax build with 6 items, something like Kraken, Navori, IE, Dominik, Cleaver and Hullbreaker or BORK or PD, Jax will have no problem at all 100 to 0ing Tryndamere, since Jax gets waaay too tanky, deals waaay too damage, and his E has a reaaaally short cooldown.
Normally not the biggest fan of Druttutt but when he's just hanging out seems like he's actually fine, pretty chill. I dig it.
Drututt randomly going, "We're in NA rember" kills me lmao
I think TL and C9 can fuck any EU team right now...EU this year looks like shit
@@aaagustin tl is pretty much EU and c9 is half Korean so they pretty much can
@@aaagustin can't say i disagree with you :)
which rune with Druttut's viego build?
Which team you want to win?
LS: TL, obviously... I mean, wtf?
Also LS: 'cuz they have better draft, I want better draft teams to win.
Of course LS, I believe you.
11:07 dude this is a great idea, youd get to easily filter out some of the low elo salt LMAO
Danny is the only one who reads patch notes... Every adc in NA at least is still building tri force
It's viable/optimal on like 10% of ADCs I think
What is your build then? I genuinely want to know.
But Zeri does like negative damage without tri force titanic hydra
@@skslssodls1803 danny went shieldbow essence reaver PD. Looked convincing. For Zeri
@@j0hncarp ok man I'm gonna try it out TY.
Ls the diet soda thing is a comolete meme, as long as you maintain a calorie deficit, the insulin response from the sweetness can't cause your body to create extra energy out of nowhere. Diet soft drinks help with satiety and are incredibly potent weight loss tools
It’s pretty simple calories in vs calories out fasting only helps cause you eat less food nothing wrong with diet soda nothing special either if you like them drink them
The insulin thing seems pretty nonsensical. But, after becoming curious about this subject and looking at some journals I find it very strange that most studies looking into the effects of artificial sweeteners on satiety are done on people with medically healthy BMIs. So the claim that diet soda actually helps with satiety, at least in terms of leptin + feedback with your hypothalamus, seems similarly unproven (but artificial sweeteners aren't harmful either in regards to leptin).
From the literature (only looked for like an hour tho tbh) positive effects of diet sodas seems mostly to do with motivated behavior/satisfaction rather than any dietary hormone activity (insulin, leptin, ghrelin).
I don't want to be reductive and say feeling full == nervous + endocrine systems, but like biomedically speaking it doesn't seem like diet soda is doing much for you beyond containing less sugar (which is still helpful). Neurologically speaking it still activates very similar dopaminergic pathways in the brain, so diet soda can definitely satisfy/pleasure you in similar ways.
Also, not claiming to be an expert. 4th year bio major with familiarity with Neuro. familiar with reading studies at the very least lol.
"i only drink water bro, so i don't know" - hydrohomie!
Viktor + Jinx: "They kinda have to get close to Ryze to do damage to him" ?
BTW, as someone who has been studying weight loss he is absolutely right about the insulin point keeping you from losing weight.
"The reason I want TL to win..." Yeah bro we know why, nice try tho
Im so happy to see this collaboration
LS, something not on the topic. Can you somehow find a way to address Yamato and his "S-tier" champs obsession? Yamato has 3 of the best LEC players and puts them in a cage. Why?.. It works vs some of the teams in LEC but vs the best from LCK and LPL it would take more than choosing S-tier champs. He should get creative. Some of G2's international wins in the past were exactly because of C-tier unexpected picks, way more than G2 players' ability to play better vs some LCK teams. Even Faker has learned his lesson on standard picks and is risking so much in draft and it almost always works: with Kai'sa, Trynda, Lux mid...
Looking at Bwipo's behavior before the game, having watched him for years in the LEC, I knew he was too nervous and tilted even before the game. Poor Bwipo, I know he could do so much better but under so much media pressure I just knew he would crumble and int the game.
hard to perform when Santorin dashes into the Viktor stun and tunnels on viktor during Herald fight giving tryndamere an easy fight.
And please watch at 7:42 and tell me that Santorin couldn't kill tryndamere (ult had expired and viego have R), not only that but could also 2v1 the kench and trundle using tryndamere damage + R reset / after that play trydamere recalled with 1700G because kill + turret
And because top has no turret and is pushed to T2 Trynd can roam bot and dive them
ANY LPL or LCK jungler would have waked away from the top fight with at least 1 kill and the turret protected
Santorin is just hot garbage
@@EricksonSRS bruh you just listed very dumb mistakes to call on. 1. is at least more unstandable.
2. you expect him to beat tryn 1v3 with a full rage bar to heal from? not to mention when tahm still has R? tryn can not 1v2 trundle and tahm both champs are built for killing one person and they can run to their tower. LCK/LPL would position better for this fight and to grab at least one kill or not fight at all. saying they would go 1v3 for a small chance to get a kill is extremely stupid. you'd shit on him if he went and didnt get it anyway.
I agree. His kg helped a lot in losing the game. TL has to do better with the jg I think (as he is TL weakest link), but as a whole Bwipo didn't play as well as I know he can and I just stayed it was because of his nerves. Did you see him laugh nervously before game?
4:37 really interesting fact about nutrition.
Why even post this if they were hardly paying attention to the game
Came here because of people in Bwipo's pregame interview comments saying summit destroyed him and I'm not really seeing it? Only by a small margin but Bwipo was winning lane and getting the better end of trades... on a jax vs a trynd in the EARLY game. Even after that herald fight he was still winning 1v1 lane trades. Not sure about the running it mid though. Plus in Bwipo's interview all he was saying is that whilst summit is good, the strategy he uses won't work against better players, and the same is simply true for C9 as a team. That doesn't discredit that the team is good, or that the players are good, there's just always a bigger fish and C9 won't be able to adapt to that if they keep playing this way.
12:00 Somebody please clip this and send it to Tobias Fate so he can shut the fuck up about Yone being “broken.”
Bwipo actually sounds like a nice guy
4:50 Not true. Only time your body stores fat is when you are in a calorie surplus.
More drututt. It’s not a request it’s an order
3:24 did he really say 'I think blaber is dead'??
What does he mean by Viego insurance?
Currently high gold this season, but sadly hardstuck plat since forever. So how is yone not broken? I mean 2 items he just e tornado q and 2 autos and people fall over no?Im curious and want to learn and see people's opinion.
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He has to hit his skillshots, if he doesn't hit ult on at least 2-3 people he's sub par, he can get cc locked easily even when in e, he has to charge q up which when objectives are up isn't that easy, hence engaging with r which is easy to play around, in top lane his laning is ass.
He isn't all that good at this point but was insanely broken before they nerfed lethal multiple times.
Am I missing something or is Fudge's build absolutely troll into 5 HP builders of which 3 comfortably itemize MR as well
Viktor is the only AP dmg dealer so if you don't count mercs on Jax, none of them actually built MR but rather stacked armour against Trynd and Jinx.
@@tokiliam6015 None of them stacked MR but 3 had MR (mercs on Jax and Viego + Jax ult MR + Leona locket + locket consecrate passive on all members). That would be fine on its own, but ALL of them build HP (Jax with trinity at the bare minimum, likely builds more HP if the game continues, Viego with sunderer, Ryze with everfrost and fimbulwinter, almost every item that Zeri builds, all of Leona's items). The value on Liandry's into all of that HP is extremely high. Shadowflame flat pen is based on current HP, so its value is diminished when hitting higher HP targets. Also, if they have low enough MR that Ludens + Shadowflame is good, there's no way void staff is the best third item.
Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong. I'm only posting this bc I want to understand.
@@falsepanda2981 I agree that Liandry's would have also been good here. The reason why I think Shadowflame is fine here is because it's the second highest AP item after deathcap which is good on Viktor and because it gives maximum magic pen against shielded enemies. Zeri passive, Fimbulwinter, Nautilus W and locket all give shields.
I have no clue why he built void staff third tho tbh. Maybe if you do the math it's actually worth but I don't really know.
not really looking at the state of the game. they dont even have that much health built up yet and c9 is dominating while fudge's build has a better early game spike. most health is zeri or ryze which of whom does not have mr yet. health doesn't matter against pen if you dont have MR.
@@Darkstormsun9865 I'll have to check in practice tool later, but from against 1 HP item (which every enemy builds first) Liandry's should already be outperforming against Ludens. in concept it should be better at every point in the game here. For the mythic, it's not about the flat pen just the value of Liandry's vs HP.
With that said, flat mpen gold efficiency drops off rather hard against even a single null-magic mantle (part of why Viego and Jax built them despite Viktor being the sole AP threat). +Leona locket + consecrate passive
Despite that, I don't think Shadowflame is a problem here.
If it isn't though, in what universe does building void third make sense here?
y’all they aren’t costreaming but they are liveviewing so it’s a bit behind
First 3 secs into the video dude's already malding LETS GO
the add-on is done by a french streamer Sardoche lmao, with prime the bot can see the rank of player and if the viewer is below platinium he can't talk
Every word you spoke sounded like broken glass 😌
L’s zero sugar does not start an insulin response I go to school for this
you didnt show ls saying shadowflame 2nd was wrong on viktor
Best duo on twitch no cap
Kinda wish they actually talked about the game tbh
Ok so from LS’s comment about why he wants TL to win in relation to strategy and LCK, he wants NA to stick to their own style and Improve upon( now possible with champions q)that to the point where it is competitive with the LCK, I really like that thinking
2:04 Imagine if this is life hahahaahaha i'm deadddddddd
there's no video of LS being iritated during draft xD
Okay the rank and champ link would be beast I would love to show off my Iron 2 yasuo main. I'm sure i would be a hit in chat.
LS talking nonsense about the insulin response lol
He be getting these out quick
I adore LS and his commentary, but I’m OUT on this other guy
Ratio
He missed like 90 of the important plays, let the other dude about off topic things while important fights we're happening bad video overall tbh
"NAthing can happen" lul
Best Collab to dated
Yeah personally I don't like this co-stream.. Druttut is very hard to understand, and is distracting LS from making statements on the game.. LS also missed the most important play of the game. I probably won't be back watching these if this Druttut guy is sticking around.
great performance from drut
gotta love DRUTUT LMAO
There is already an add-on to know the rank of your spectators, a french streamer made it
Love seeming ls complain about draft just to see them shit pump them with a better draft
I mean it nothing new. Ls complain a lot about t1 draft too. Just cause you win tho doesn’t mean you won draft tbf.
Even though C9 planned around the Trynda blind quite well with the Gragas ban and the Trundle pick, the Ryze top flex into counterpick mid would have destroyed them. I'm guessing Bwipo isn't comfortable on him
No it wouldn’t have. Bjergsen is trash.. blaber still gapped him.
@@cdajah6920 bjergsen? what?
@@Darkstormsun9865 the caster minion, bjergsen m, got god damn gapped by fudge.
@@cdajah6920 but you said blaber.
@@Darkstormsun9865 but I got lost in my own train of thought and clicked “send” too swiftly so I fucked up. Idgaf. End of the day, blaber gapped santorin… bjersen is dog shit and fudge is a better mid. TL is trash, the analysts have IQs combined of a whopping 62, and TL fans are salty they suck more than 10 dollar bookers on quarter nights.
You want TL to win definitely because of the draft, LS lmao definitely the draft
His game knowledge is impressive, but his nutritional knowledge is rather questionable
the duo i never knew would worked together
not even looking at the game just rambling about random stuffs. Maybe Summit and Berserker just can't take any more analogy about card games, dragon balls, and pokemon XD
Is bwipo the best NA top laner? what do you think LS
Fuck no
No
Summit is far better as a laner and his mid late game and teamfighting are rly good. LS already said multiple times he thinks summit blaber berserker are best in their roles.
@@sjdbsa okay good to know, i don't follow it too closely I just noticed bwipo doing somewhat decent at worlds last year
Viktor with resolve is so good i dont know why people dont take it
Drututt’s mic is so loud ahahah
Some trash tier weightloss advice by LS at 5 mins
Jokes on you Drututt! I am silver and don't think Yone is broken!
With the shit that is happening in low elo everything appears broken so how am I going to figure out what actually is?
I do NOT like his kit from a design perspective. I think his Q looks very silly and I don't get why his kit is so close to Yasuo's when Yi and Wukong have nothing in common.
Isnt it funny how everyone on the top 2 teams are transfers lmao
Anyone an editing genius can mute the other guy so this is watchable?
LS, zero sugar is terrible for you more than you response seemed to say, is filled with a massive amount of fluoride, which is why we are all keyed down robots
Is LS no longer a coach for C9?
no they fired him for reasons unknown
@@peterpan3022 aw that's so unfortunate! I was a member of the church lol
waiting for him to say Micheal Jackson
One day, Bwipo will not be overrated anymore
overrated? how? you gonna say one of the best EU tops ever is overrated?
2:52
Kinda crazy these teams really don't have like... Identity.. Anymore. Like if you're rooting for c9, who are you rooting for ON the team? Blabber maybe? Even then, is that really c9? I could argue something very similar for TL. Bjerg was teh face of TSM so long that I'm still getting used to it. Nowadays there's a distinct lack of flavor in the NA region. IMO, we should stop tryna pretend we care about international tournies and just make LCS into a gamer version of WWE.
Dr Ututt unbelievably BASED
Bro I watched this and as much as I enjoyed C9 securing 1st place over TL I just couldn't enjoy it because of LS and what happened ... Holly fuck mate I really wanted to watch LS draft with Korea 9 ... I feel bad, sorry
LS rooting for TL the whole time then acting happy when C9 wins so cringe.
Oh no Bwipo got tilted and inted. Anyway Jinx needs stronger nerf to her ultimate. Like Zeri has 3/4 health and got almost oneshoted, wtf is that
AD and missing health. it doesn't need a nerf. ezreal ulti does that much damage too.
That yone thing got me good.
I swear silvers think yone is the best champ in the game.
mashallah drututt
ls when u complain about what they pick u have to start telling us what would be better there pls
UNIRONICALLY!
LS what you said about insulin resistance is completely bullshit
Team built by LS - skill is insane. Thank you LS!!!
Their commentary to this game is so gorgeous and intense. My heart cant take these rollercoasters😂
Xoxo
That's the bwipo I know
More of this epic duo plz