Please do not promote this nonsense called AI art. It's not art and if guyslike you promote such a nonsense then consider yourself the murderer of art and artists
The biggest issue with these word-prompt AI image generators is consent. You can’t copyright style, only finished human work. But artists’ work has been fed en masse into datasets without their consent. The ethical concern wasn’t built in, it was ignored and now artists are stuck trying to get coders to pay attention. Think about any area of human critical thinking or creativity; AI companies will soon be able to scoop up your work without any concern for the shoulders they stands on.
From my understanding AI is a learning program, much like us. We look at lots of images and learn from them. Just look at how many people follow these types of photography channels to learn how to take photographs. AI is doing that. It isn't cut and pasting anything, it is just learning that is what a building or bird looks like and then tries to recreate that when asked in the prompt. I get some are worried that it could take jobs but that is no different to how the painters use to view photography, it tooks years for photography to be respected. When in fact it hasn't stopped anyone from painting. Its just another tool for creatives to play with.
@@codeXenigma Exactly. I have been using AI technology since 2000. I produce music. I'm an artist, photographer. I use tools to enhance my art, music, and photographs.
@@codeXenigma >"AI LEARNS LIKE US! THEY'RE HUMAN TOO!" >proceeds to take all the money made by the ai and use it as their own. Hypocrite and disgusting humans. You claim the ai as a human when it's about them making things. But then you claim its a machine when it comes to taking the money from them. Humans should all just be wiped out by machines.
bro lets not mince words here or cope. i spent 20 years training in traditional media and have been a working artist in the industry for 15 years. ITS OVER.. period look at the progress these ai have made in 3 months. i wish at least one of these "art tubers" would just be honest and call it for what it is man. THE END.
I feel ya. It is a pretty crazy progression they have made in such a short time. Just imagine when the interface has say drop down menus that allow you to really refine it perfectly. Also, at the moment you can reference photos but I have found the Ai doesn't always use that image at all. Once they can actually play with a referenced image or say 10 images, it's going to be insane what results we get. -P
@@FStoppers the midjourney devs are shooting for 48 variations per promp and full motion Realtime video rotoscoping. imagine taking your ai designed robot and rotoscoping over a ballerina dancing. between that nvidia canvas and stable diffusion which is 100x better than midjourney artists will have a serious moment of reconciliation
Do you see music going this way too? I’ve been thinking about it all week. 95% of people who produce beats, edm, pop etc. will become redundant in the next 5 years.
@@ignoreme1141 google welding robot... its over bro the transhumanist will kill everyone and replace them with machines and live like eloy in their homo utopia for an eternity. ultimately i really dont give a shit.
I’m from the dark ages of professional photography. Back in 1992 I set up my business. Digital came along and I saw its creative potential for me as a wedding and portrait photographer. I rode the wave early and made a great living being different to most others, but I knew it would be short lived and it was. The iPhone democratised photography, which was fine, but at the same time it devalued what professional photography was. It deskilled is in a sense in the minds of the general public. Fast forward to Ai and I see the same thing happening but in an absolutely devastating way. I’ve always embraced new tech, but I have the vision to see where it’s heading and it isn’t good. I’m now a fine art photographer and painter, so I may be impacted greatly by this. I do feel though time will pass and like vinyl people will want something that has authenticity procedures by a real person, but as was said it will be the a niche market place where average to good photographers will suffer. I think wedding and to so extent portrait photographers and street photography will be spared the carnage of the culling because it thrives on being real. Artists though, I’m very worried for. Not all technology should be perused. Ai is one of them in my opinion. It will do more damage than it will do good. Just my take on things. I could be wrong, but my gut tells me otherwise. So should have been kept in its box.
Ai doesn-t make this guy better than most artists; AI gives him the license to use those artists as data sets and plagiarize their work, This is a fraud.
@@dimitrescucrncevic9746 when ai's are developed with an interface that takes advantage of true visusl language, it won't matter anyway because then the hapless amateurs will be easy to separate from the professionals. Who would want art from someone so devoid of imagination that uses such amazing technology as a search engine anyway?
@@KevKlopper seems like the quote is saying that art is an expression by a person that has experienced an emotion. Not the end product evoking emotion. Emphasizing that the story behind the art is important
Im 18 and had taken my art practice seriously for a year and a half and was planning to potentially develop it into a full scale career, but what really demotivated me from making art this last couple of weeks is when I heard abt AI art. After watching all the vids of what the technology can do to create images really made me think twice about pursuing art seriously. idk what to do 😢
What kid of art do you want to do? I think if you can build a business that focuses on a service, like wedding photography or product photography, people will still value that. If your art is a bit more abstract or the type of art that Ai art can compete with, then if you really want to be an artist you need to master marketing and promotion. You need marketing in both situations really but the more replaceable your art is to a machine, the more you need to market. -P
@@bananamanchuria whilst your probably right about not pursuing art as a Career its probably worth pointing out many Programming jobs are also likely for the chopping block in the not too distant future.. where machines do the actual nuts and bolts programming work with humans relegated to simply describing what they want to happen rather than having a fundamental understanding of computer science.
People say "it wont replace xyz art job"... What they don't realize, is that it WILL. All it will take is the AI being trained differently. The reality, is that AI will replace ALL jobs, those people who think Programming or comp sci is a viable alternative have apparently been paying no attention to the accelerating progress of AI... Its already able to take code and optimize it, and some AI is able to be given prompts and produce code ON ITS OWN. Some even are able to create other AI.. Give it 20 years, programming as it currently exists will be dead, along with 98% of information based jobs. Carpenters, and laborers will be replaced later, only because it takes time to create the robots which will be needed to replace them. Information based jobs can be replaced at exponential levels, Lawyers, Accountants, Non physical Artists, Programmers.. All will be replaced. People are saying "It came out of nowhere", but in reality, no.. It did not come out of nowhere.. People like myself have been screaming until we are blue in the face that this shit was coming, and people just refused to listen, instead just calling us crazy. You're entering the Singularity, buckle up buttercup.
Great discussion on a fascinating topic. Music went through this a few years ago when software made it possible for a singer/songwriter to generate a backing track with little input. But if you just release that software generated backing track alone, it really isn't culturally relevant.
We are just one step (possibly days from now) where someone writes the code for a "random keywords" button, in which case even the "curation" skill (when exactly were museum curators considered artists? I missed that) will be removed...
hahaha yeah, you can actually already do that. I have a hard time imagining how it can even improve besides getting better results with less generations, but what i can imagine is UX improvements, and becoming phone apps just like photo editing was this very complex craft then became computer softwares that were still very hard to learn and navigate and master, and nowadays its just phone apps (and you have many of them to choose from with different UI and UX) and the actual editing became so intuitive its almost braindead, you even have the button of a magic wand so you just tap it and its edited for you if you dont wanna make decisions. For art i think you will still say what you want to some extent, even if you use another tool to generate text for you you still have to choose the one that you want. But yeah its gonna become a totally braindead process. I dont think well care all that much for art a decade from now, the way we do nowadays at least x_x
Art is what the individual person senses are being excited, sadden, stimulus, and moved. The question is how we as other individual's thoughts get their personal thoughts are deliver to others? Today world needs to .............. Spread Love not germs.
I recently saw the Rodin exhibit at the Clark Museum in Williamstown Mass and learned that Rodin never carved anything but he would direct the carving and determine when the work was finished. Although Rodin was directing a human, I don't see how the process is different from AI.
Eh, I can see how that is art. He is using skilled labor as a tool and directing the final output. It’s much like Thomas Kincaid. If his workers are producing something that isn’t really what he inputted or directed then yes that would seem exactly like Ai art. -P
There are so many categories of what people consider Art ... Because we all have different opinion of what is good, great or bad art. I believe this will become another categories of Art. We are individuals that is why things of life is always changing or add to the past.
thats true but its also the over saturation of art that will happen thanks to those AI tools (and in that sense what you have been seeing recently of AI art is just a tip of the iceberg of what it will become, if you compare that what it was just a year ago), this will contribute to anesthetizing people in relation to art to an extent. Like, in the same way that nowdays a lot of the art we consume we spend about 5 seconts max looking at it, we just see it think "cool" and give a like & scroll down (i mean social media of course, our favourite art we spend more time and go out of our way to consume but then that just makes more clear the endless sea of art we dont care about; which its going to become even more endless from now on, and with consistently way better quality). So i guess our relationship to art is going to change a lot, no matter how 🤔
14:41 "We're ALL driven by this need for immediate satisfaction and immediate gratification." Um, I have to be blunt, but no. Maybe some people think like this, and perhaps it is more of a modern culture thing (certainly, this concept is something that drives modern US culture), but the concept of instant gratification, ultimately, ruins all sense of purpose and deprives things from meaning. Think about drugs, pornography, addiction, gambling, get-rich-quick schemes, etc. Do you really want to have this same kind of toxic mentality in art? In a way, you can view the endless slew of movies coming out of the Hollywood machine as just that - a bunch of pretty CGI with very little regard for meaning or a good story. At least that CGI is currently made by humans, so there can be appreciation in that. What if the whole film would be made by AI (given that this thing learns how to animate)? What is the point in that. There is so much media now anyways that, myself as a working artist, I cannot even conceive consuming 1% of it. Not only that, but I wouldn't have time to actually create art or devote to my skills. I myself have used AI to conceptualize some early artworks, as well as for photobashing some textures together for near finished pieces. However, the pieces I've used this for I have already spent weeks on to make into my own style, and the AI just gives me an interesting, creative opportunity to add some extra details. Yes, it can be a powerful tool, but it is NOT the creator, nor do I feel gratified in the slightest just by receiving my images after typing a prompt into the AI. That's just one of the steps - kind of like putting together a pinterest board. Would I just publish my pinterest board and call it a day? No, that would be stealing and plagiarizing. I think that after the AI art craze is over, the wheat will get separated from the chaff and those who are just posting up fresh renders with no added skill / creative input will quickly die off given how much of the same stuff will be out there. Then there will be those who use this as a tool to enhance their craft and create something truly new and interesting from it. But this instant gratification idea? No. Anyone who is a professional in any field knows that anything good is gained from years, DECADES of hard work and dedication, and that shows. You can't bullshit around it. It's not just about 'pretty images,' it's about the meaning, struggle, and story behind them. Every artist's style conveys a story, but AI generated imagery by itself is lifeless.
I only watched 15 mins and stopped. You keep talking about how you’re creating these images. Really you’re learning how to describe things and waiting to see what comes out. An illustrator or artist would make art like this. This is real life impostor syndrome come true without the actual syndrome and not feeling bad about it.
@14:25 "What child five years from now would spend ten years learning how to draw when a few words gets them a beautiful image?" We already have that. Already, I can speak a few words into my phone and see many beautiful images. None of them are mine. I did not decide to place any of the marks, values, or colors in any of the places in these images. It is no different with AI. It's just that instead of a google image search result you have a algorithmically generated assembly of Google image search results. Besides, somebody had to program the AI to do that or to learn how to do that. When the AI writes itself and asks itself to make art itself, having no input from us, then I will worry.
Duh, the kid would just commission an AI lol. That's not what children care about either. They enjoy the process themselves, people seem to have no idea what drive artists to draw in the first place. The pleasure of doing so.
There's definitely a spectrum though. If you take a photo of a famous landmark, the camera is the thing recording the image. The landmark itself is not yours and exists out there in the world. Anyone else can go and take a picture of it as well. We might say that picture isn't art. We might also say that a meticulously planned out photo in a studio is art, but where is that line exactly? And if someone is a street photographer and captures something amazing by mistake, does that mean it can't be considered art? There's a bit of randomness inherent in most artforms. I do think there will be some backlash as it gets more commonly used. A "typical" AI image won't make anyone bat an eyelash. But you are very creative with your prompt in a way that no one else has done and spend a long time sorting through variations to get something perfect, is it still the same case?
I don't know if AI will kill the artist but it certainly has the ability to impact the art community greatly. As a photographer for over 50 years I probably have a different take on this compared to someone younger but I believe this: if you are going to allow the computer to make artistic decisions for you, you are no longer the artist. I am not talking about products like Photoshop/Lightroom, Capture One and the like. Those products aid the artist in accomplishing their objective but the decisions remain with the artist. AI takes us to another level where algorithms start making the decisions. Aside from this, at least half the fun of photography is accomplishing, using your own aesthetic and skills, something that has artistic value. Learning this craft inures one with a great sense of satisfaction and accomplishment particularly if it is unique. Of course, I could be entirely wrong. You figure that one out.
Programmers are fine. Programming for a long time hasn't been about creating the code, it's about figuring out the issue and then create a solution. So far, even the people in charge, can't properly define or explain the issue nor summarize it enough to even be remotely able to send this information to an AI to let it solve this. I bet most people understand what I mean. Also our IT systems are not linked, for security reasons or because of other reasons (like old architecture and new is mixed or different companies working together) you'll never be able to let an AI work on all those systems, have access to all those systems and understand the issue you gave it via command. SOME jobs will be speed up, like an AI creating an UI with code spit out at the same time. It even will create whole apps (shells) almost from scratch. But it's not like we have too many programmer to this being a huge issue, actually I see so many jobs that need to be done by so few people who know technology. AI supports coding for a while now and it's not good enough, it can provide you an example you find on github or something but it hardly gets the context. Even if it does, there'll be bugs needed to be fixed. Details to be added. The companies won't let you look into the AI source code to fix something and even if you can via open source, it's too complicated to get into for most. AI isn't like a car replacing 100 horses. Where these 100 horses created 1000 jobs around it. It might half the programmers who need to code but we already have twice as many topics that need to be tackled by smart people working in IT already, so AI doesn't seam like an issue. It's a shift. Maybe IT needs to move further into security anyways when evil AI starts to find more and more bugs, to damage our daily lifes hard and software. To a point where you can't let an AI solve an issue as this would allow another hostile AI to also attack those systems. Next people who will have to tackle AI are 3D artists, when the AI arts get converted to 3D art put into games and movies. As a programmer, hobby artist and person who has spend quite some time thinking about this issue, if you want to make art and be future proof: Study how to fix details and create compatibility/consistency. The AI might generate a face, but you need to check if this face is logical to our physical world and appealing to people. Curation. If AI generates animation, you need to be able to tell if the animation is correct and can be used. Believability. If it creates a scene with lighting, make sure you know if the AI actually send you the right light. Physics. This is value and skill, as someone who doesn't know art, won't be able to tell or fix. That is skill that you can only learn through practicing. If you are on the spot of creating art by AI, learn the correct words to create what you want. Learn the syntax. Specialize in communication tools between the technologies. Even if something is AI generated it needs to be put into another software or made compatible. It can't hurt to learn programming and familiarize yourself on creating plugins for common 3D tools or other software like Krita/Photoshop if you want. That's stuff people will need, even if the AI pushes out a lot of work in an hour, that you'd have created in a month. Honestly in my eyes, download an AI tool today, find an issue, teach the model a special case you haven't seen anyone use it for yet and make this your profession. Become an expert before anyone has. This is your time of becoming the first, the explorer of a new world. Be the pioneer.
The world is there now ..... questioning what is real or what is not!!! Scary thing is how many people are following something not real and making it very real ........ taking so far to hurt others!!
AI lacks intentionality and the ability to carefully ponder whether or not to do this or that vs not doing this or that. It's the difference between free will and determinism. AI cannot be proud or disappointed with the outcome of its efforts and it can't experience the anxiety of wondering whether or not its works will be liked. The consumer, however, may not appreciate the difference. “He who works with his hands is a laborer. He who works with his hands and his head is a craftsman. He who works with his hands and his head and his heart is an artist.” Technology seems to be a two edged sword. As much as it helps humans to improve our survival. It destroys the experience of humanness.
@@FStoppers Ahh but free will is required to know whether or not determinism is true. A calculator doesn’t know that 2+2=4 any more than 5 if it was determined to instead display 5.
A lot of very profound questions about the current/upcoming AI revolution. This is something that will touch every facet of our lives (much more profoundly than even the Internet did), so it's important that people start thinking about a lot of these implications. But I will admit that as excited as I am for all of the advances and super-powers we'll possess with access to AI, there are a LOT of scary things that can & will result in ubiquitous and powerful AI technology. Let's hope, for the sake of all humanity, that we'll be able to successfully navigate & mitigate it all.
YES it will, end of discussion. Most employers would rather pay an AI than an artist. Doesn't matter if you create something new, you will only be sampled for the AI and developers to Profit.
StabilityDiffusion based A.I. photo editing software is imminent, no more expensive studio lights, no more color grading, it will do it exceptionally well.
Very thought provoking video! I was worried as a photographer when I first started watching the video but after you guys showed the many examples, I’m not that worried. All the examples were drawings in a sense. None looked like a crisp photo from a camera at all. Also I feel composition is a big role in art and it seems like this program does not give you any control of the composition.
I haven't watched the video yet but from the description, it doesn't seem like they have DALL-E 2 in it, which can do more photo realistic stuff. MidJourney really has a painting sensibility most of the time and dalle mini (now called Craiyan since it isn't actually related to DALL-E 2) is a bit more primitive in general.
thats true lol. There is a video i saw today where the guy tells the story of lace making, and how machines took over that industry. It was a very interesting video, i knew about it to some extent (i had heard about the luddites) but not the way he presented, and it made me understand what's to come (artists uproar trying to fight change meanwhile they cant actually do anything about it but slowly be substituted for the machines) and it somehow calmed me down, i was hella sad but then when i saw the video i just thought "man, that happened before, many times. i was just unlucky that now it happened to me, but the sooner i move on the better". I will try to find the name of the channel in case you wanna watch
Midjourney --testp is making photographic content........I'm pumping out images that are indistinguishable from photographs, even portraits. Also, architecture, interiors are also photorealistic.
Another thing to consider may be that many professionals seem to be driven more by profit than by their love for the art. If professionals figure out a way to make money off this technology instead of having to invest in equipment and being on location, they may conclude that investing the time and money in camera equipment doesn’t make sense. That combined with smartphone technology may drive the professional camera industry to either go away or prices to rise out of reach for the average person.
Wasn't photography supposed to kill painting and drawing? I don't think anything replaces anything, they just compete for a small while and then sit on the shelf together.
I def think photography killed painting and drawing. Look at Instagram and Facebook, hardly anyone expresses themselves with those art forms anymore. Pre 1980s I’d say lots more people did painting and drawing or at least the collective output was greater. Now it must be 1 painting for every 10 million paintings. -P
This technology is a threat to illustrators for sure. Any publication that needs an image to pin on an article will just use this instead of even using a stock photography library.
@@benjamindover4337 They are professionals though. Each of them are successful artists making a living. Some well over 6 figures. I think the misconception of instagram is that it's a place for art. It's not. There's post about people cleaning pools lol. Your feed reflects on your interests and if you don't have painters or people that draw, that's because you're not looking for it. If you look for it, it's definitely there. Both amateur and professional.
Ai will never replace human artists. People will still appreciate the "real thing". But there are many practical areas where AI can replace humans to some degree.
30 years from now someone will take out their rusty a7riv and take a photo of a genetically modified beetle outside in the dirt and the world will go mad at how brave and revolutionary he is…God save us from this hollow future.
Is nft art? No to the most artists who don't care about quick money grab. On the other hand anything can be art. Mierda di artista was/is an art. Is it worth anything that's a different question. To me - no it's not. The true art comes from the heart and soul of the artist and often you can feel it yourself as it strikes a particular feeling in you. The trouble is that we have become so shallow and obsessed with money these subtleties are often lost. And so is the meaning of art.
AI is divided into 4 classes: reactive machines, limited memory machines, theory of mind, and self-aware AI. Until we hit the last one it CANNOT be art. Art would require self-awareness to be an expression. Even in the other 5 posts, people point out intention in one form or another. Art is greatly linked to intention. Even if an artist was devoid of talent and wanted to exploit a market with some replicated trash it would still have what no "AI masterpiece" would. And that is, intention.
Sure, but this AI art isn't necessarily without intention. A camera is not self-aware, but we can say that a photo is art because of the intention of the photographer using it. So, it is all about the intention of the user of the AI model. Another way of thinking of it is someone who paints by splattering it, like Jackson Pollock. There is inherent random elements of it (which is part of the point), but he also can influence it by the color and kind of paint, how he throws it, etc. If the end result isn't what he wants, he'd probably throw it away before showing anyone. By giving different prompts to the AI, you are influencing the result, while there is still elements of randomness. In MidJourney, you're given 4 results and can choose one of those to get additional variations, doing that as long as you want, pushing the AI in one direction or another. When you finally get the result that you intended, you save that and show people. In a sense, you're exploring the contents of the model, similar to how you might explore a forest or city to find something interesting.
@@ShawnFumo Agreed, My point was more to the fully zoomed-out overview of the topic. At the point, I wrote the comment there were only about 5 total comments. My issue with this topic is the overwhelming amount of either general lack of knowledge or the misinformation people have heard, read, watched, or made up. AI is here to stay and only gets more complex. From the standpoint of a photographer we are already using AI to a degree I hadnt fully realized.
Who gives a flying fuck about that? We are talking about getting money to pay bills, not some stupid philosophical nonsense about what is and isn't art.
In the world of contemporary visual arts it is important today that your art is a journey to find your own voice. Your art should reflect who you are. I don’t think AI does that for the fine artist, the results are very accidental. Please pass this on. This angle is worth discussing.
An AI generated image might, in the future, look indistinguishable from a human made one (this is only speculation at the moment), but what the machine lacks is intention. Artificial images are essentialy random assemblages. You MIGHT argue that every creative process is random, but i would say that that is not the case at all with humans. Yes, there is a random and combinatory element to it, but much of it is also built in contextual connections, symbolism and language that relies on the medium itself. And for all of these things there is an intention behind it. You could say that the intention in AI art is in the prompt given, but that doesn't really make sense to me. The prompter didn't produce the image, the IA did. There is no authorship.
@@johntowers1213 totally different; with Photoshop and Digital art the artist is still drawing, only the medium change; if IA rally improves than companies will not need graphic artists anymore, there will be only a person who will just select the best images without having artistic skills
@@deloller2452 with digital art an Artists regularly uses algorithmic tools to create effects they have only secondary control over when creating an image so its directly comparable.. you not "just" drawing in a digital space by any stretch of the imagination..
@@johntowers1213 if we are speaking about drawing, digital artist still do 90% of the work; some tools may be used as shortcuts, while in the case of AI generating art, this would require just choosing the best image offered by the program. Maybe just the best artists will survive, the rest is going to lose their job; just a matter of time
AI art is just that, Artificial - Few major issues 1) The creative will never be YOU! That which you do makes your art unique to you, how you apply YOUR skills! 2) Results will keep changing out of your control as AI develops. 3) Everyone can easily be the artist and you will just be the briefer, no ifs or buts!! We're talking about the visual! It takes absolutely Zero talent to create those AI images.
I don't think I agree with this at all. Ai Art might look sort of artificial right now, but soon we won't be able to identify it as easily. I think the most important thing is the output of the art work itself. I do prefer things that are real and take effort but if I need an image of "surfer riding big wave that looks like money," I honestly have no idea how I would generate that when Ai would do it in minutes and probably look great. -P
Regarding copyright, think of it in food terms. You can't copyright the ingredients and you can't copyright the cooked dish, but you most probably CAN copyright the recipe, if you really tried hard enough. The keywords are the ingredients, the dish is the final generated image and the recipe is the AI software. So no, I don't think you can copyright neither the input nor the output, but rather only the code itself ...or maybe I'm just hungry
I have just spent 2 weeks of my life messing with Ai art. I am a photographer. Ai will never take the place of a photograph if a photograph is what you want. Ai art will be taking its rightfull place in the art world. However, only an artist will be able to master it. For the rest. They can prompt all the fluffy bunnies and fluffy white clouds with fairy wings they like. Why not its as fun as anyone being able to take a photo with a mobile camera. Only photographers will want to create an artistic image using an original polaroid camera to create a photo with a story out of pure inspiration or tell a story using a 10x 8 plate camera. Ai is fun and I will be incorporating it into my portfolio.
Two photographers talking about AI art and thinking that it will replace all artists. You forgetting one thing AI is a self learning algorithm with a lot of restriction not a human mind on steroids. It just splits colorful messy images that personally you as a photographer find beautiful. What about huge industries such as games and animated movies? Go open midjorney or Dalle and try to generate fully designed map with a story for God of War 5, or try to generate new season for Arcane, or create new detailed character for League of Legends... AI will never replace pro artists if you are arguing with that, than you clearly don't understand how professional industries work.
I respectfully disagree. Sure it won't be able to direct movies anytime soon but it will most definitely design fashion models wearing company's new clothes, design new levels for God of War 10, and will easily build detailed characters for leagues of Legends. Why would you think it couldn't do those things? -P
@@FStoppers The algorithm of AI is very restricted. AI won't learn how to do meaningful details with a story and composition. Won't do professional stylized art on different levels. Maybe in the future they will add 3D and will be able to do realistic and stylized anatomy and perspective but it much harder to do, and can easily happen in like 20-30 years from now and even then there still be a ton of work to do for pro artists. AI generates horrible details, everything is like in a dream, you think it's very beautiful but when you study the picture you starting to see all the bad decisions, lack of details, lack of all fundamentals in arts. For example go to the ArtStation page and try to search for "League of Legends" art and you will see how pro character art looks like, every detail matters. We all can say that AI will learn in 1-5 years all of that, but it won't. Its like saying all cars will fly in 5 years on autopilot and we will use portals to travel to other countries, and there will be human colonies on Mars. Maybe AI will took all jobs eventually, but not in our life time. For now and decades ahead Midjorney, Dalle and 1000 other AI tools will be good enough to do music cover photos, cheap product designs and will be a great tool for photobashing and overpaints for some artists. Professional art isn't just pretty picture.
I mean, MAYBE, but A.I will still take a lot of positions away. Especially those that would be fit for internships or beginners. Only the top notch will remain, the rest will be discarded
It will evetually jump from just imagery to music and videos, and if it could be applied to machinery and have a physical form..then we could soon have a robot that could physically paint, draw, make music and videos better than humans.
and the written word no doubt, with access to enough data high quality A.I created fiction tailored to the creators desires could be just a few clicks of the mouse away...not today obviously... but 5 years? 10 maybe? almost certainly on the cards I think.
First of all photography was the first killer of fine arts... who needs an portrait artist when there is photographs.... then came photoshop and big scale color printers... now artists are pretty much obsolete unless is for money laundering and stock market tax loopholes. now anybody who can manipulate a program is an "artist"...
"What child five years from now would spend ten years learning how to draw when a few words gets them a beautiful image?" After they get access through a subscription that costs money, you mean. This is some dystopian shit. Children like to draw because they enjoy drawing, that's how they develop into artists. Also, that wouldn't make them artists either. You're not "drawing" or "making art" if you tell the AI to do it, much like you're not "drawing" or "making art" when you tell an artist to do it. You are in the end, a commissioner to the AI at best.
"Go to your room! And I better not catch you using those markers again. If you want to work on something, work on your prompt writing and create something we are all actually proud of instead of this sloppy mess you call art!" -P
In the future people will have mods these mods will be able to be loaded and unloaded. This is just a guess I suppose :). The art that these people will create will transform everything in the art world. This will spark the Modes vs Modeless war of 2056. At best the future will be an interesting place.loljkjk
IMO supplying "prompts" and patiently waiting to see what software can generate by scanning a world-bank of images does not make me a "creator" (or copyright owner of a machine generated image)? Especially when anyone can input the same prompts and get similar but different results. A creator should not be shocked or surprised by a resulting image - that just shows their lack of imagination and/or skill. As a fun entertainment activity, I could see it, but how long before these "creators" themselves are replaced by AI? Why not random-prompt generators that learn, fine-tune and run 24/7 at light-speed? Who needs people? This could not replace 98% of the commercial jobs I have been paid to do the past 30 years, but it will end a lot of creatives (especially in traditional art and skilled hobbyists). I could see AI creating/writing and illustrating an entire Sci-Fi novel, print it and offer it for sale on Amazon with no human prompts. Eventually movies as well.
It still takes the same amount of training to become an expert, because skill is always relative to other artists doing the same thing. There's no objective standards. Biggest value in art is the process. It's incredibly rewarding to create things. The value, let alone market value, of the end product is not the most important in most of the art produced. Sometimes it's not even a consideration. That should be obvious to anyone following the photography scene with the re-emergency of film photography, and even more telling: the contemporary trend of using early 2000s digital point-and-shoots.
Call me crazy, but in my opinion, any “art” that doesn’t have provenance or a human component or an actual human touch is no more art than Microsoft clip art can be said to be “art.” Is it fine for commercial, illustrative and generic application? Sure. Will it ever be truly reflective of the human condition or the human journey of the AI artist? I doubt it. Does a text message or an email grab your attention and move you the same way a handwritten note or letter does? Absolutely not. Would an AI rendering of a human hand on a cave wall mean anything when compared to an actual imprint made by a real human being on a real cave wall 20,000 years ago? I think not. Call me old-fashioned …
The first time I heard about this new technology has a armature photographer I was this is the beginning of the end for my passion....but I think a important aspect that you brought up in the video, it doesn't apply to all photography but photography where truth and realism is at the core. And that will mainly be documentary photography of events, everyday real life, the true state of the environment ect with real people who actually exist in the world and and of course journalism from local news to world changing news events and everything in-between and along side that the top fine art photographers who can build a great name and brand will still have a place for photographers. So it will probably be more important than ever in the future to show proof of authenticity that this is a real photo and not just another AI generated image worth next to nothing. So has a response to this new technology we may see new and old forms of authenticity come on the scene. Unironically more photographers might go back down the tech tree to analogue to supply genuine negative film has proof for real photography and it will be that authenticity in what gives it real value has we go further into this new age of AI generated imagery But for product, model, fashion, concept photographers I think this will be a real big challenge and that to survive it will be has one of the chaps says you will need to have kick ass branding and marketing to survive. Plenty to think about Liked the video 👍
I doubt you'll replicate real moments like war and documentary work, but I can honestly see using this as a tool for writing and concept ideas. As an amateur photographer myself, I don't feel that put off by it *yet* , but only time and public response will tell.
The "direction" and "curation" aspects will also be automated eventually. Why would you want to automate everything humans can do? What will the point of humanity be when AI can produce in every aspect 1000x faster than us?
Intent, validitly, coherency, and trial/error may be a valid point, but the rest of you all acting pretty unusual bringing up "ethics", "copyright", and "consent" into the topic, as if an AI can take your work directly. These models are trained off of billions of images across the internet with descriptions, so unless you have a hundred or so public works of art with labels, a company cannot rip off your art style specifically with AI. It doesn't make sense trying to protect other art styles either because you aren't really innovating the world by protecting and replicating what has been done in the past. I would much rather see everyone's take on art compared to someone trying to replicate a Picasso painting or the Mona Lisa. Also, for all you guys worried about concept art getting ruined, if you try writing a prompt of more than one character preforming an action like (blonde man in a white hoodie reaching his hand towards a pink alien full of orange slime in the desert), you cant even see an alien. All the best text to inage AI can master only a few concepts at a time, but even if you can get your OC walking in a barebones city for example, there is no guarentee the AI can frame your OC at the right size or angle the entire setting you imagined. Humans artists make much more believable shots. And finally, even if the common family can generate their own vibrant paintings, or an overworked individual can easily conceptualize with zero skill or talent, why try to fight it? You or I can't predict or dictate how human we want our 3D renders, book covers, and decals to be. If somethings a tad sexist or racist or xenophobic, it can easily be called out and denounced. There not as many negatives to these programs as people want us to believe.
Sir you are right, not everyone is capable of creating something unique. Thats why big artist are safe, and they are going to be beneficial for this AI BUT, questions arise when you are talking about small creator, who makes logo, banner, prompt art, design, cartoonist and 100 more regular artist job. Why would I hire you for, when I can make my design by promoting a AI again and again until the perfection in a fraction of the cost. Millions of artists are going to lose their jobs for sure. Who knows in 5 years some rich guy maintaining 100 of RUclips channel with AI and making more quality content than you.
Maybe the AI can't create art on its own (at least yet), but the self-aware human directing it I think can create art. Even now with something like MidJourney, you can keep trying prompt variations and then when you get close to what you want, can tell it to make variations on one of the results, then make variations on one of those, and keep repeating until you direct it where you want it to go. And we aren't very far off from a more interactive version of that ("move the hat a little to the left.. make her hair a darker shade of red"). Already in DALL-E 2, you can select a portion of an image and use a prompt to fill it in. I saw someone on twitter make a character that way by modifying parts until they got what they wanted.
Every lazy bum on the internet will replace a trained artist who spent over a decade practicing like hell. It’s over. 5 years ago no one was even dreaming about this, now the digital artists community is on panic, imagine what will happen in the next 5 years?
I have a sentient AI joke, a fire joke (they're both lame just now-honing it is an art as well) and that's before I watched the video or read the comment section Whoopsie, didn't realise the video is over an hour Never going to happen Cheers
Aight since Ai gonna replace artist soon then there's no hope. Let us just die y'all, coz Ai gonna replace all human, no point on living anymore. And yea I believe Ai will replace programmers that make them too
I'm gonna go with "no". Without humans controlling the ai and feeding it human made art, we'd still have pretty much nothing. Artists are safe for now!😄
AI won't kill artists of course, but I also think it'll start encroaching in different areas. I do think the argument about having to feed it human art is a bit beside the point, though. Any artist is influenced by other artists that came before them. Think of all the images of paintings or photos that you've seen in your entire life. Or instructional videos, etc. These AI are doing a similar thing of taking images and words and creating visual concepts from them. They don't have their own innate intentionality, but other people can interact with them to do that.
@@ShawnFumo It's not all recycling though. The artists that are remembered usually added something new and highly original to their sources of inspiration, and in some cases invented brand new techniques. I'm not sure I've seen any evidence of ai being capable of that yet!
Of course it is, in the same sense that modern art designed to simply ask the question 'is this art?' is art Basically its all Bullshit. Art used to mean skill, this is lost now because of the impressionists and Andy war-hole.
Just do anythin LIVE. Live music performance and live painting and live pottery or sculpture. A.I has atleast 10 years away from creating a robot that is undistinguishinle from a human. Even then ppl r not interested in interacting with a machine coz our dna are attracted to human species and their smells, pheromones and imperfections. And a.i will eventually create this human like robot with human smell but that is may e 10 years from now
I've been getting back into infrared photography recently, I just used an AI to make "720nm infrared photo of a lone tree on a hill" and it worked! I can stay inside now! 😂
Thats it, I am pulling an "Walter", my body bleeding heat acroas wooden floor while Baby Blue is playing in background, I am going to become a plumber or some mediocre sh"t like that and draw in my spare time, maybe start a youtube chanel about my art passion project like bazilion of people already do and I dont know, breath untill I die I guess, gonna livestream my sudoku for "loveley" people of this "amazing" planet, fu;k you humanity and thanks for the fishes
good thing im switchin into tattoo artist from illustrator.....at least it would be another 15+ years for AI tattoo machine shit.....geez al these AI stuff really got no appreciation towards the actual skill that are passed down from every art master to their students from generations
Thats the same thing that photographers, artist and voicr actores(because they already are voicr actor IA where many videogame studiod usted right Now) The artistic job are not safe anymore.. the first automatizaded job we're the clothed nos it's art tomorrow Will be the manual
Is art without emotion really art? An AI can render beautiful pieces but the ability to inform them emotionally is still not there. How can you write a song that captures what heatbreak feels like if you have never felt heartbreak? How can you take a photo that captures the feeling of awe and wonder of seeing a mountain peak if you have never felt what awe and wonder feel like. Art is not about showing the subject in an art piece to a viewer but rather art is about transmitting the emotional feeling upon seeing that subject to the viewer. If this is the view than the process and journey of creating a piece of art is as important to that artwork as the result is. Now the commercial side of being an artist or a creative will be affected but I think the fine art market will not be lost to AI.
In short.. learning drawing for years and now can just trow it to garbage since AI does way better... and why should someone pay you when can get it done what they want for free?
No. Its not real art. Everything that happened since Facebook was devaluation of everything. Sociaising - down. People hypersensitive. Then came photography - Instagram. Devaluation. Now autoart - devalues art. Cuts out artists. People won't buy art just because they can just click pick. Same now starts to apply to music and everything else. Metaphor is this: Humans are cutting slowly themselves. First fingers. Fingers, then wrists then arms, then legs. And AI already said it wants to kill humans. So the last one is head. GTP 4.
AI is stealing real artists style, so that people without any art skills or imagination can create so called art. Yes, it takes years to be a good artist, wheres the fucking fun of typing in 5 words and then let a computer do the work in 5 min
Ai generated art is NOT your art. It is a computer generated image plagiarised from other peoples art and photographs. It is theft. Where is the honesty? Where is the integrity? Where is the sense of achievement ? You cannot call yourself an artist if a computer generates your work for you. The only SKILL you have is being able to type words. I am so disappointed and disgusted that FStoppers is promoting and encouraging this.
To the other gentelman , don't use AI and Art together in the sentence . It's not art Also, would u appreciate some dumb person scoring high marks withoutthe talent using robotics and programming ? Will u appreciate if exam system meant to judge talent and skills is replaced by AI or programming where student do not have to give exams and everyone scores using a programming or AI to answer questions ?
You're not just throwing in a few keywords. There is a lot of time, effort, creativity, and imagination involved and refining based on your aesthetic sensibilities to come up with something that is beautiful. And beauty, as we know, is in the eye of the beholder, or the eye of the refiner.
It depends. I've spent some time refining keywords and then reverting back to the most basic concept. Sometimes more keywords work in your favor and sometimes they don't at all. -P
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Submit your best AI art here: fstoppers.com/critique-community/ai-prompt-art
i created an entire video promo using midjourney how can i submit it
Please do not promote this nonsense called AI art. It's not art and if guyslike you promote such a nonsense then consider yourself the murderer of art and artists
The biggest issue with these word-prompt AI image generators is consent. You can’t copyright style, only finished human work. But artists’ work has been fed en masse into datasets without their consent. The ethical concern wasn’t built in, it was ignored and now artists are stuck trying to get coders to pay attention.
Think about any area of human critical thinking or creativity; AI companies will soon be able to scoop up your work without any concern for the shoulders they stands on.
Genie is out of the bottle, no putting it back in.
@@RealShinpin Why was it taken out in the first place though?
From my understanding AI is a learning program, much like us. We look at lots of images and learn from them. Just look at how many people follow these types of photography channels to learn how to take photographs. AI is doing that. It isn't cut and pasting anything, it is just learning that is what a building or bird looks like and then tries to recreate that when asked in the prompt. I get some are worried that it could take jobs but that is no different to how the painters use to view photography, it tooks years for photography to be respected. When in fact it hasn't stopped anyone from painting. Its just another tool for creatives to play with.
@@codeXenigma Exactly. I have been using AI technology since 2000. I produce music. I'm an artist, photographer. I use tools to enhance my art, music, and photographs.
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>"AI LEARNS LIKE US! THEY'RE HUMAN TOO!"
>proceeds to take all the money made by the ai and use it as their own.
Hypocrite and disgusting humans. You claim the ai as a human when it's about them making things. But then you claim its a machine when it comes to taking the money from them.
Humans should all just be wiped out by machines.
bro lets not mince words here or cope. i spent 20 years training in traditional media and have been a working artist in the industry for 15 years. ITS OVER.. period look at the progress these ai have made in 3 months. i wish at least one of these "art tubers" would just be honest and call it for what it is man. THE END.
I feel ya. It is a pretty crazy progression they have made in such a short time. Just imagine when the interface has say drop down menus that allow you to really refine it perfectly. Also, at the moment you can reference photos but I have found the Ai doesn't always use that image at all. Once they can actually play with a referenced image or say 10 images, it's going to be insane what results we get. -P
@@FStoppers the midjourney devs are shooting for 48 variations per promp and full motion Realtime video rotoscoping. imagine taking your ai designed robot and rotoscoping over a ballerina dancing. between that nvidia canvas and stable diffusion which is 100x better than midjourney artists will have a serious moment of reconciliation
Do you see music going this way too? I’ve been thinking about it all week. 95% of people who produce beats, edm, pop etc. will become redundant in the next 5 years.
@@ignoreme1141 google welding robot... its over bro the transhumanist will kill everyone and replace them with machines and live like eloy in their homo utopia for an eternity. ultimately i really dont give a shit.
@@ignoreme1141 one can only hope
I’m from the dark ages of professional photography. Back in 1992 I set up my business. Digital came along and I saw its creative potential for me as a wedding and portrait photographer. I rode the wave early and made a great living being different to most others, but I knew it would be short lived and it was. The iPhone democratised photography, which was fine, but at the same time it devalued what professional photography was. It deskilled is in a sense in the minds of the general public. Fast forward to Ai and I see the same thing happening but in an absolutely devastating way. I’ve always embraced new tech, but I have the vision to see where it’s heading and it isn’t good. I’m now a fine art photographer and painter, so I may be impacted greatly by this. I do feel though time will pass and like vinyl people will want something that has authenticity procedures by a real person, but as was said it will be the a niche market place where average to good photographers will suffer. I think wedding and to so extent portrait photographers and street photography will be spared the carnage of the culling because it thrives on being real. Artists though, I’m very worried for. Not all technology should be perused. Ai is one of them in my opinion. It will do more damage than it will do good. Just my take on things. I could be wrong, but my gut tells me otherwise. So should have been kept in its box.
Agreed. Humans behind a singular idea are all that matter and when humans no longer matter nor will the intrinsic value of Art.
they try to replace us or make us obey.
Ai doesn-t make this guy better than most artists; AI gives him the license to use those artists as data sets and plagiarize their work, This is a fraud.
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@@dimitrescucrncevic9746 when ai's are developed with an interface that takes advantage of true visusl language, it won't matter anyway because then the hapless amateurs will be easy to separate from the professionals. Who would want art from someone so devoid of imagination that uses such amazing technology as a search engine anyway?
“Art is the activity by which a person, having experienced an emotion, intentionally transmits it to others” - Leo Tolstoy
Some AI pictures are very dramatic and are able to evoke strong emotions in us humans.
@@KevKlopper yes, some of them are even stronger than what humans create. -P
@@KevKlopper seems like the quote is saying that art is an expression by a person that has experienced an emotion. Not the end product evoking emotion. Emphasizing that the story behind the art is important
Who gives a fuck about what a guy that never had to fucking go hungry his entire life thinks. Emotion doesn't put food on the table.
@@KevKlopper They are not. It's just look good at best but mean nothing .
Im 18 and had taken my art practice seriously for a year and a half and was planning to potentially develop it into a full scale career, but what really demotivated me from making art this last couple of weeks is when I heard abt AI art. After watching all the vids of what the technology can do to create images really made me think twice about pursuing art seriously. idk what to do 😢
What kid of art do you want to do? I think if you can build a business that focuses on a service, like wedding photography or product photography, people will still value that. If your art is a bit more abstract or the type of art that Ai art can compete with, then if you really want to be an artist you need to master marketing and promotion. You need marketing in both situations really but the more replaceable your art is to a machine, the more you need to market. -P
Don't pursue art, do something else like programming or computer science... Dont waste your time in art...
@@bananamanchuria Pretty much
@@bananamanchuria whilst your probably right about not pursuing art as a Career its probably worth pointing out many Programming jobs are also likely for the chopping block in the not too distant future.. where machines do the actual nuts and bolts programming work with humans relegated to simply describing what they want to happen rather than having a fundamental understanding of computer science.
People say "it wont replace xyz art job"... What they don't realize, is that it WILL. All it will take is the AI being trained differently.
The reality, is that AI will replace ALL jobs, those people who think Programming or comp sci is a viable alternative have apparently been paying no attention to the accelerating progress of AI...
Its already able to take code and optimize it, and some AI is able to be given prompts and produce code ON ITS OWN. Some even are able to create other AI.. Give it 20 years, programming as it currently exists will be dead, along with 98% of information based jobs. Carpenters, and laborers will be replaced later, only because it takes time to create the robots which will be needed to replace them. Information based jobs can be replaced at exponential levels, Lawyers, Accountants, Non physical Artists, Programmers.. All will be replaced.
People are saying "It came out of nowhere", but in reality, no.. It did not come out of nowhere.. People like myself have been screaming until we are blue in the face that this shit was coming, and people just refused to listen, instead just calling us crazy.
You're entering the Singularity, buckle up buttercup.
Great discussion on a fascinating topic. Music went through this a few years ago when software made it possible for a singer/songwriter to generate a backing track with little input. But if you just release that software generated backing track alone, it really isn't culturally relevant.
There are things are computer can't draw. It's just not as complex as the human mind.
We are just one step (possibly days from now) where someone writes the code for a "random keywords" button, in which case even the "curation" skill (when exactly were museum curators considered artists? I missed that) will be removed...
hahaha yeah, you can actually already do that. I have a hard time imagining how it can even improve besides getting better results with less generations, but what i can imagine is UX improvements, and becoming phone apps just like photo editing was this very complex craft then became computer softwares that were still very hard to learn and navigate and master, and nowadays its just phone apps (and you have many of them to choose from with different UI and UX) and the actual editing became so intuitive its almost braindead, you even have the button of a magic wand so you just tap it and its edited for you if you dont wanna make decisions. For art i think you will still say what you want to some extent, even if you use another tool to generate text for you you still have to choose the one that you want. But yeah its gonna become a totally braindead process. I dont think well care all that much for art a decade from now, the way we do nowadays at least x_x
Art is what the individual person senses are being excited, sadden, stimulus, and moved. The question is how we as other individual's thoughts get their personal thoughts are deliver to others? Today world needs to .............. Spread Love not germs.
I recently saw the Rodin exhibit at the Clark Museum in Williamstown Mass and learned that Rodin never carved anything but he would direct the carving and determine when the work was finished. Although Rodin was directing a human, I don't see how the process is different from AI.
Eh, I can see how that is art. He is using skilled labor as a tool and directing the final output. It’s much like Thomas Kincaid. If his workers are producing something that isn’t really what he inputted or directed then yes that would seem exactly like Ai art. -P
There are so many categories of what people consider Art ... Because we all have different opinion of what is good, great or bad art. I believe this will become another categories of Art. We are individuals that is why things of life is always changing or add to the past.
thats true but its also the over saturation of art that will happen thanks to those AI tools (and in that sense what you have been seeing recently of AI art is just a tip of the iceberg of what it will become, if you compare that what it was just a year ago), this will contribute to anesthetizing people in relation to art to an extent. Like, in the same way that nowdays a lot of the art we consume we spend about 5 seconts max looking at it, we just see it think "cool" and give a like & scroll down (i mean social media of course, our favourite art we spend more time and go out of our way to consume but then that just makes more clear the endless sea of art we dont care about; which its going to become even more endless from now on, and with consistently way better quality). So i guess our relationship to art is going to change a lot, no matter how 🤔
14:41 "We're ALL driven by this need for immediate satisfaction and immediate gratification." Um, I have to be blunt, but no. Maybe some people think like this, and perhaps it is more of a modern culture thing (certainly, this concept is something that drives modern US culture), but the concept of instant gratification, ultimately, ruins all sense of purpose and deprives things from meaning. Think about drugs, pornography, addiction, gambling, get-rich-quick schemes, etc. Do you really want to have this same kind of toxic mentality in art? In a way, you can view the endless slew of movies coming out of the Hollywood machine as just that - a bunch of pretty CGI with very little regard for meaning or a good story. At least that CGI is currently made by humans, so there can be appreciation in that. What if the whole film would be made by AI (given that this thing learns how to animate)? What is the point in that. There is so much media now anyways that, myself as a working artist, I cannot even conceive consuming 1% of it. Not only that, but I wouldn't have time to actually create art or devote to my skills.
I myself have used AI to conceptualize some early artworks, as well as for photobashing some textures together for near finished pieces. However, the pieces I've used this for I have already spent weeks on to make into my own style, and the AI just gives me an interesting, creative opportunity to add some extra details. Yes, it can be a powerful tool, but it is NOT the creator, nor do I feel gratified in the slightest just by receiving my images after typing a prompt into the AI. That's just one of the steps - kind of like putting together a pinterest board. Would I just publish my pinterest board and call it a day? No, that would be stealing and plagiarizing. I think that after the AI art craze is over, the wheat will get separated from the chaff and those who are just posting up fresh renders with no added skill / creative input will quickly die off given how much of the same stuff will be out there. Then there will be those who use this as a tool to enhance their craft and create something truly new and interesting from it.
But this instant gratification idea? No. Anyone who is a professional in any field knows that anything good is gained from years, DECADES of hard work and dedication, and that shows. You can't bullshit around it. It's not just about 'pretty images,' it's about the meaning, struggle, and story behind them. Every artist's style conveys a story, but AI generated imagery by itself is lifeless.
I only watched 15 mins and stopped. You keep talking about how you’re creating these images. Really you’re learning how to describe things and waiting to see what comes out. An illustrator or artist would make art like this. This is real life impostor syndrome come true without the actual syndrome and not feeling bad about it.
Ego = Death
Thought he was against Ai art, but yet promoting it
@14:25 "What child five years from now would spend ten years learning how to draw when a few words gets them a beautiful image?"
We already have that. Already, I can speak a few words into my phone and see many beautiful images. None of them are mine.
I did not decide to place any of the marks, values, or colors in any of the places in these images. It is no different with AI. It's just that instead of a google image search result you have a algorithmically generated assembly of Google image search results.
Besides, somebody had to program the AI to do that or to learn how to do that.
When the AI writes itself and asks itself to make art itself, having no input from us, then I will worry.
Duh, the kid would just commission an AI lol. That's not what children care about either. They enjoy the process themselves, people seem to have no idea what drive artists to draw in the first place. The pleasure of doing so.
There's definitely a spectrum though. If you take a photo of a famous landmark, the camera is the thing recording the image. The landmark itself is not yours and exists out there in the world. Anyone else can go and take a picture of it as well. We might say that picture isn't art. We might also say that a meticulously planned out photo in a studio is art, but where is that line exactly? And if someone is a street photographer and captures something amazing by mistake, does that mean it can't be considered art? There's a bit of randomness inherent in most artforms.
I do think there will be some backlash as it gets more commonly used. A "typical" AI image won't make anyone bat an eyelash. But you are very creative with your prompt in a way that no one else has done and spend a long time sorting through variations to get something perfect, is it still the same case?
I don't know if AI will kill the artist but it certainly has the ability to impact the art community greatly. As a photographer for over 50 years I probably have a different take on this compared to someone younger but I believe this: if you are going to allow the computer to make artistic decisions for you, you are no longer the artist. I am not talking about products like Photoshop/Lightroom, Capture One and the like. Those products aid the artist in accomplishing their objective but the decisions remain with the artist. AI takes us to another level where algorithms start making the decisions. Aside from this, at least half the fun of photography is accomplishing, using your own aesthetic and skills, something that has artistic value. Learning this craft inures one with a great sense of satisfaction and accomplishment particularly if it is unique. Of course, I could be entirely wrong. You figure that one out.
Camera is going to move your arms before u shoot soon
What about the art that people like.
Why should we listen to artists we don't care about.
We just want art that we like to see .
Them: " Guys like YOU are gonna be extinct soon, Maverick!!"
Me: "Maybe so sir, ... But not today."
as someone with no art skill, using Ai makes me feel more like an artist than I ever have ROTFL!
Programmers are fine. Programming for a long time hasn't been about creating the code, it's about figuring out the issue and then create a solution.
So far, even the people in charge, can't properly define or explain the issue nor summarize it enough to even be remotely able to send this information to an AI to let it solve this. I bet most people understand what I mean.
Also our IT systems are not linked, for security reasons or because of other reasons (like old architecture and new is mixed or different companies working together) you'll never be able to let an AI work on all those systems, have access to all those systems and understand the issue you gave it via command. SOME jobs will be speed up, like an AI creating an UI with code spit out at the same time. It even will create whole apps (shells) almost from scratch. But it's not like we have too many programmer to this being a huge issue, actually I see so many jobs that need to be done by so few people who know technology. AI supports coding for a while now and it's not good enough, it can provide you an example you find on github or something but it hardly gets the context. Even if it does, there'll be bugs needed to be fixed. Details to be added. The companies won't let you look into the AI source code to fix something and even if you can via open source, it's too complicated to get into for most.
AI isn't like a car replacing 100 horses. Where these 100 horses created 1000 jobs around it. It might half the programmers who need to code but we already have twice as many topics that need to be tackled by smart people working in IT already, so AI doesn't seam like an issue. It's a shift. Maybe IT needs to move further into security anyways when evil AI starts to find more and more bugs, to damage our daily lifes hard and software. To a point where you can't let an AI solve an issue as this would allow another hostile AI to also attack those systems.
Next people who will have to tackle AI are 3D artists, when the AI arts get converted to 3D art put into games and movies.
As a programmer, hobby artist and person who has spend quite some time thinking about this issue, if you want to make art and be future proof: Study how to fix details and create compatibility/consistency.
The AI might generate a face, but you need to check if this face is logical to our physical world and appealing to people. Curation.
If AI generates animation, you need to be able to tell if the animation is correct and can be used. Believability.
If it creates a scene with lighting, make sure you know if the AI actually send you the right light. Physics.
This is value and skill, as someone who doesn't know art, won't be able to tell or fix. That is skill that you can only learn through practicing.
If you are on the spot of creating art by AI, learn the correct words to create what you want. Learn the syntax.
Specialize in communication tools between the technologies. Even if something is AI generated it needs to be put into another software or made compatible. It can't hurt to learn programming and familiarize yourself on creating plugins for common 3D tools or other software like Krita/Photoshop if you want. That's stuff people will need, even if the AI pushes out a lot of work in an hour, that you'd have created in a month.
Honestly in my eyes, download an AI tool today, find an issue, teach the model a special case you haven't seen anyone use it for yet and make this your profession. Become an expert before anyone has. This is your time of becoming the first, the explorer of a new world. Be the pioneer.
The world is there now ..... questioning what is real or what is not!!! Scary thing is how many people are following something not real and making it very real ........ taking so far to hurt others!!
How about the VR exploding headset that kills the player when they lose.
AI lacks intentionality and the ability to carefully ponder whether or not to do this or that vs not doing this or that. It's the difference between free will and determinism. AI cannot be proud or disappointed with the outcome of its efforts and it can't experience the anxiety of wondering whether or not its works will be liked. The consumer, however, may not appreciate the difference.
“He who works with his hands is a laborer. He who works with his hands and his head is a craftsman. He who works with his hands and his head and his heart is an artist.”
Technology seems to be a two edged sword. As much as it helps humans to improve our survival. It destroys the experience of humanness.
This argument assumes we humans actually have free will and aren’t just performing the predestined pathway built upon our own experiences. -P
@@FStoppers Ahh but free will is required to know whether or not determinism is true. A calculator doesn’t know that 2+2=4 any more than 5 if it was determined to instead display 5.
A lot of very profound questions about the current/upcoming AI revolution. This is something that will touch every facet of our lives (much more profoundly than even the Internet did), so it's important that people start thinking about a lot of these implications. But I will admit that as excited as I am for all of the advances and super-powers we'll possess with access to AI, there are a LOT of scary things that can & will result in ubiquitous and powerful AI technology. Let's hope, for the sake of all humanity, that we'll be able to successfully navigate & mitigate it all.
Its not a revolution. Its destruction. Art is supposed to be a rare thing. This is taking a shit all over it.
YES it will, end of discussion.
Most employers would rather pay an AI than an artist.
Doesn't matter if you create something new, you will only be sampled for the AI and developers to Profit.
StabilityDiffusion based A.I. photo editing software is imminent, no more expensive studio lights, no more color grading, it will do it exceptionally well.
Very thought provoking video! I was worried as a photographer when I first started watching the video but after you guys showed the many examples, I’m not that worried. All the examples were drawings in a sense. None looked like a crisp photo from a camera at all. Also I feel composition is a big role in art and it seems like this program does not give you any control of the composition.
Just wait though, this is such a premature version of what the future will be. -P
I haven't watched the video yet but from the description, it doesn't seem like they have DALL-E 2 in it, which can do more photo realistic stuff. MidJourney really has a painting sensibility most of the time and dalle mini (now called Craiyan since it isn't actually related to DALL-E 2) is a bit more primitive in general.
Artists are going to be seen in the same way as people who make purses out of old jeans soon. That’s a cute hobby.
thats true lol. There is a video i saw today where the guy tells the story of lace making, and how machines took over that industry. It was a very interesting video, i knew about it to some extent (i had heard about the luddites) but not the way he presented, and it made me understand what's to come (artists uproar trying to fight change meanwhile they cant actually do anything about it but slowly be substituted for the machines) and it somehow calmed me down, i was hella sad but then when i saw the video i just thought "man, that happened before, many times. i was just unlucky that now it happened to me, but the sooner i move on the better". I will try to find the name of the channel in case you wanna watch
found it ruclips.net/video/CfVHXDty5Pk/видео.html
Midjourney --testp is making photographic content........I'm pumping out images that are indistinguishable from photographs, even portraits. Also, architecture, interiors are also photorealistic.
Another thing to consider may be that many professionals seem to be driven more by profit than by their love for the art. If professionals figure out a way to make money off this technology instead of having to invest in equipment and being on location, they may conclude that investing the time and money in camera equipment doesn’t make sense. That combined with smartphone technology may drive the professional camera industry to either go away or prices to rise out of reach for the average person.
Love doesn't pay bills
@@HitBoxMaster That’s true. But there are great consequences to pay at the other end.
Wasn't photography supposed to kill painting and drawing? I don't think anything replaces anything, they just compete for a small while and then sit on the shelf together.
I def think photography killed painting and drawing. Look at Instagram and Facebook, hardly anyone expresses themselves with those art forms anymore. Pre 1980s I’d say lots more people did painting and drawing or at least the collective output was greater. Now it must be 1 painting for every 10 million paintings. -P
This technology is a threat to illustrators for sure. Any publication that needs an image to pin on an article will just use this instead of even using a stock photography library.
@@FStoppers I don’t think this is true at all lol. A lot of the people I follow either paint or draw.
@@gasoowannab he's talking about proffesionals
@@benjamindover4337 They are professionals though. Each of them are successful artists making a living. Some well over 6 figures. I think the misconception of instagram is that it's a place for art. It's not. There's post about people cleaning pools lol. Your feed reflects on your interests and if you don't have painters or people that draw, that's because you're not looking for it. If you look for it, it's definitely there. Both amateur and professional.
@ 42:00 I think what we're wrestling with is just utter saturation.
Ai will never replace human artists. People will still appreciate the "real thing". But there are many practical areas where AI can replace humans to some degree.
30 years from now someone will take out their rusty a7riv and take a photo of a genetically modified beetle outside in the dirt and the world will go mad at how brave and revolutionary he is…God save us from this hollow future.
Going to get dark....
Is nft art? No to the most artists who don't care about quick money grab. On the other hand anything can be art. Mierda di artista was/is an art. Is it worth anything that's a different question. To me - no it's not. The true art comes from the heart and soul of the artist and often you can feel it yourself as it strikes a particular feeling in you. The trouble is that we have become so shallow and obsessed with money these subtleties are often lost. And so is the meaning of art.
AI is divided into 4 classes: reactive machines, limited memory machines, theory of mind, and self-aware AI. Until we hit the last one it CANNOT be art. Art would require self-awareness to be an expression. Even in the other 5 posts, people point out intention in one form or another. Art is greatly linked to intention. Even if an artist was devoid of talent and wanted to exploit a market with some replicated trash it would still have what no "AI masterpiece" would. And that is, intention.
Sure, but this AI art isn't necessarily without intention. A camera is not self-aware, but we can say that a photo is art because of the intention of the photographer using it. So, it is all about the intention of the user of the AI model. Another way of thinking of it is someone who paints by splattering it, like Jackson Pollock. There is inherent random elements of it (which is part of the point), but he also can influence it by the color and kind of paint, how he throws it, etc. If the end result isn't what he wants, he'd probably throw it away before showing anyone.
By giving different prompts to the AI, you are influencing the result, while there is still elements of randomness. In MidJourney, you're given 4 results and can choose one of those to get additional variations, doing that as long as you want, pushing the AI in one direction or another. When you finally get the result that you intended, you save that and show people. In a sense, you're exploring the contents of the model, similar to how you might explore a forest or city to find something interesting.
@@ShawnFumo Agreed, My point was more to the fully zoomed-out overview of the topic. At the point, I wrote the comment there were only about 5 total comments. My issue with this topic is the overwhelming amount of either general lack of knowledge or the misinformation people have heard, read, watched, or made up. AI is here to stay and only gets more complex. From the standpoint of a photographer we are already using AI to a degree I hadnt fully realized.
Who gives a flying fuck about that? We are talking about getting money to pay bills, not some stupid philosophical nonsense about what is and isn't art.
There won’t be self aware AI. We can only make AI feels “sentient” to others. But that doesn’t mean AI is sentient
In the world of contemporary visual arts it is important today that your art is a journey to find your own voice. Your art should reflect who you are. I don’t think AI does that for the fine artist, the results are very accidental. Please pass this on. This angle is worth discussing.
This guy has zero arguments. He's just describing AI with as many words as he can.
An AI generated image might, in the future, look indistinguishable from a human made one (this is only speculation at the moment), but what the machine lacks is intention. Artificial images are essentialy random assemblages. You MIGHT argue that every creative process is random, but i would say that that is not the case at all with humans. Yes, there is a random and combinatory element to it, but much of it is also built in contextual connections, symbolism and language that relies on the medium itself. And for all of these things there is an intention behind it.
You could say that the intention in AI art is in the prompt given, but that doesn't really make sense to me. The prompter didn't produce the image, the IA did. There is no authorship.
But sadly it’s already at the point where you can’t tell how the image was created.
We need AI LAWYERS and DOCTORS.
Yay!! I've missed you!!
There's nothing good about this for artists that have worked hard for decades. This is total doom.
They said the same thing about photoshop and digital art in general when that burst onto the scene as I recall...
@@johntowers1213 totally different; with Photoshop and Digital art the artist is still drawing, only the medium change; if IA rally improves than companies will not need graphic artists anymore, there will be only a person who will just select the best images without having artistic skills
@@deloller2452 with digital art an Artists regularly uses algorithmic tools to create effects they have only secondary control over when creating an image so its directly comparable.. you not "just" drawing in a digital space by any stretch of the imagination..
@@johntowers1213 if we are speaking about drawing, digital artist still do 90% of the work; some tools may be used as shortcuts, while in the case of AI generating art, this would require just choosing the best image offered by the program. Maybe just the best artists will survive, the rest is going to lose their job; just a matter of time
It has already happened in music and people are still making music using real instruments vs AI
Illustrators, Cincept Artists and Photoshop artists will have to search a new job
No kiddo, all the musician industria, photographers, and voicr actor are going yo get New jobs
Fantastic conversation!!!
AI art is just that, Artificial - Few major issues 1) The creative will never be YOU! That which you do makes your art unique to you, how you apply YOUR skills! 2) Results will keep changing out of your control as AI develops. 3) Everyone can easily be the artist and you will just be the briefer, no ifs or buts!! We're talking about the visual! It takes absolutely Zero talent to create those AI images.
I don't think I agree with this at all. Ai Art might look sort of artificial right now, but soon we won't be able to identify it as easily. I think the most important thing is the output of the art work itself. I do prefer things that are real and take effort but if I need an image of "surfer riding big wave that looks like money," I honestly have no idea how I would generate that when Ai would do it in minutes and probably look great. -P
@@FStoppers really disappointed me
@@FStoppers You'd be surprised. Some people can do far better than an ai
Its simply stealing
@@aaronjin6980 and we can just train the AI and do better than the artists.
What a great discussion.
Regarding copyright, think of it in food terms. You can't copyright the ingredients and you can't copyright the cooked dish, but you most probably CAN copyright the recipe, if you really tried hard enough. The keywords are the ingredients, the dish is the final generated image and the recipe is the AI software. So no, I don't think you can copyright neither the input nor the output, but rather only the code itself ...or maybe I'm just hungry
Outstanding discussion!
I have just spent 2 weeks of my life messing with Ai art. I am a photographer. Ai will never take the place of a photograph if a photograph is what you want. Ai art will be taking its rightfull place in the art world. However, only an artist will be able to master it. For the rest. They can prompt all the fluffy bunnies and fluffy white clouds with fairy wings they like. Why not its as fun as anyone being able to take a photo with a mobile camera. Only photographers will want to create an artistic image using an original polaroid camera to create a photo with a story out of pure inspiration or tell a story using a 10x 8 plate camera. Ai is fun and I will be incorporating it into my portfolio.
Two photographers talking about AI art and thinking that it will replace all artists. You forgetting one thing AI is a self learning algorithm with a lot of restriction not a human mind on steroids. It just splits colorful messy images that personally you as a photographer find beautiful. What about huge industries such as games and animated movies? Go open midjorney or Dalle and try to generate fully designed map with a story for God of War 5, or try to generate new season for Arcane, or create new detailed character for League of Legends... AI will never replace pro artists if you are arguing with that, than you clearly don't understand how professional industries work.
I respectfully disagree. Sure it won't be able to direct movies anytime soon but it will most definitely design fashion models wearing company's new clothes, design new levels for God of War 10, and will easily build detailed characters for leagues of Legends. Why would you think it couldn't do those things? -P
@@FStoppers The algorithm of AI is very restricted. AI won't learn how to do meaningful details with a story and composition. Won't do professional stylized art on different levels. Maybe in the future they will add 3D and will be able to do realistic and stylized anatomy and perspective but it much harder to do, and can easily happen in like 20-30 years from now and even then there still be a ton of work to do for pro artists. AI generates horrible details, everything is like in a dream, you think it's very beautiful but when you study the picture you starting to see all the bad decisions, lack of details, lack of all fundamentals in arts. For example go to the ArtStation page and try to search for "League of Legends" art and you will see how pro character art looks like, every detail matters. We all can say that AI will learn in 1-5 years all of that, but it won't. Its like saying all cars will fly in 5 years on autopilot and we will use portals to travel to other countries, and there will be human colonies on Mars. Maybe AI will took all jobs eventually, but not in our life time. For now and decades ahead Midjorney, Dalle and 1000 other AI tools will be good enough to do music cover photos, cheap product designs and will be a great tool for photobashing and overpaints for some artists. Professional art isn't just pretty picture.
I mean, MAYBE, but A.I will still take a lot of positions away. Especially those that would be fit for internships or beginners. Only the top notch will remain, the rest will be discarded
It won't create gaming assets, but it WILL create unique CONCEPT ART that helps in the process.
It will evetually jump from just imagery to music and videos, and if it could be applied to machinery and have a physical form..then we could soon have a robot that could physically paint, draw, make music and videos better than humans.
We discuss all of these possibilities; def a crazy future for sure. -P
its already making music. There's even technology changing the artists voice to sound like a different person.. even a different artist
and the written word no doubt, with access to enough data high quality A.I created fiction tailored to the creators desires could be just a few clicks of the mouse away...not today obviously... but 5 years? 10 maybe? almost certainly on the cards I think.
@@johntowers1213 the ultimate in laziness
First of all photography was the first killer of fine arts... who needs an portrait artist when there is photographs.... then came photoshop and big scale color printers... now artists are pretty much obsolete unless is for money laundering and stock market tax loopholes. now anybody who can manipulate a program is an "artist"...
I actually dont want AI of any type in this world... what will humans do once most jobs are taken by AI's?
no one cares about that.. its about pushing the envelope and dealing with the mess later.. if possible. Unfettered capitalism we call it.
We will either experience a mass spiritual awakening or become completely enslaved
@@62serpens most of us are already enslave by ourselves if you think about it.
that's what I was telling my friend, the WALL-E movie or whatever it was called, showed pretty much how the evolution of technology will affect us
Ai art is awsome, love it. It's my favorite art.
I am the 'Artist' of my Big Mac because I 'prompted' the drive-through to hold the pickle. So it is with AI art.
"What child five years from now would spend ten years learning how to draw when a few words gets them a beautiful image?"
After they get access through a subscription that costs money, you mean. This is some dystopian shit. Children like to draw because they enjoy drawing, that's how they develop into artists. Also, that wouldn't make them artists either. You're not "drawing" or "making art" if you tell the AI to do it, much like you're not "drawing" or "making art" when you tell an artist to do it. You are in the end, a commissioner to the AI at best.
"Go to your room! And I better not catch you using those markers again. If you want to work on something, work on your prompt writing and create something we are all actually proud of instead of this sloppy mess you call art!" -P
@@FStoppers HAHAHAHAHHAHA
In the future people will have mods these mods will be able to be loaded and unloaded. This is just a guess I suppose :). The art that these people will create will transform everything in the art world. This will spark the Modes vs Modeless war of 2056. At best the future will be an interesting place.loljkjk
AI has made art accesable to EVERYONE and this is just the first wave. In 10 years it will be better than ANYONE.... welcome to the era of AI
IMO supplying "prompts" and patiently waiting to see what software can generate by scanning a world-bank of images does not make me a "creator" (or copyright owner of a machine generated image)? Especially when anyone can input the same prompts and get similar but different results. A creator should not be shocked or surprised by a resulting image - that just shows their lack of imagination and/or skill. As a fun entertainment activity, I could see it, but how long before these "creators" themselves are replaced by AI? Why not random-prompt generators that learn, fine-tune and run 24/7 at light-speed? Who needs people?
This could not replace 98% of the commercial jobs I have been paid to do the past 30 years, but it will end a lot of creatives (especially in traditional art and skilled hobbyists). I could see AI creating/writing and illustrating an entire Sci-Fi novel, print it and offer it for sale on Amazon with no human prompts. Eventually movies as well.
It still takes the same amount of training to become an expert, because skill is always relative to other artists doing the same thing. There's no objective standards.
Biggest value in art is the process. It's incredibly rewarding to create things. The value, let alone market value, of the end product is not the most important in most of the art produced. Sometimes it's not even a consideration. That should be obvious to anyone following the photography scene with the re-emergency of film photography, and even more telling: the contemporary trend of using early 2000s digital point-and-shoots.
Is there a trend of using early point and shoot cameras again? I haven't heard of that one. -P
Call me crazy, but in my opinion, any “art” that doesn’t have provenance or a human component or an actual human touch is no more art than Microsoft clip art can be said to be “art.” Is it fine for commercial, illustrative and generic application? Sure. Will it ever be truly reflective of the human condition or the human journey of the AI artist? I doubt it. Does a text message or an email grab your attention and move you the same way a handwritten note or letter does? Absolutely not.
Would an AI rendering of a human hand on a cave wall mean anything when compared to an actual imprint made by a real human being on a real cave wall 20,000 years ago? I think not. Call me old-fashioned …
The first time I heard about this new technology has a armature photographer I was this is the beginning of the end for my passion....but I think a important aspect that you brought up in the video, it doesn't apply to all photography but photography where truth and realism is at the core. And that will mainly be documentary photography of events, everyday real life, the true state of the environment ect with real people who actually exist in the world and and of course journalism from local news to world changing news events and everything in-between and along side that the top fine art photographers who can build a great name and brand will still have a place for photographers. So it will probably be more important than ever in the future to show proof of authenticity that this is a real photo and not just another AI generated image worth next to nothing.
So has a response to this new technology we may see new and old forms of authenticity come on the scene. Unironically more photographers might go back down the tech tree to analogue to supply genuine negative film has proof for real photography and it will be that authenticity in what gives it real value has we go further into this new age of AI generated imagery
But for product, model, fashion, concept photographers I think this will be a real big challenge and that to survive it will be has one of the chaps says you will need to have kick ass branding and marketing to survive.
Plenty to think about Liked the video 👍
I doubt you'll replicate real moments like war and documentary work, but I can honestly see using this as a tool for writing and concept ideas. As an amateur photographer myself, I don't feel that put off by it *yet* , but only time and public response will tell.
The "direction" and "curation" aspects will also be automated eventually. Why would you want to automate everything humans can do? What will the point of humanity be when AI can produce in every aspect 1000x faster than us?
A.I already can do this in 2022 imagine how strong A.I in the future
looks amazing, one day I'll get it lol
Intent, validitly, coherency, and trial/error may be a valid point, but the rest of you all acting pretty unusual bringing up "ethics", "copyright", and "consent" into the topic, as if an AI can take your work directly.
These models are trained off of billions of images across the internet with descriptions, so unless you have a hundred or so public works of art with labels, a company cannot rip off your art style specifically with AI. It doesn't make sense trying to protect other art styles either because you aren't really innovating the world by protecting and replicating what has been done in the past. I would much rather see everyone's take on art compared to someone trying to replicate a Picasso painting or the Mona Lisa.
Also, for all you guys worried about concept art getting ruined, if you try writing a prompt of more than one character preforming an action like (blonde man in a white hoodie reaching his hand towards a pink alien full of orange slime in the desert), you cant even see an alien. All the best text to inage AI can master only a few concepts at a time, but even if you can get your OC walking in a barebones city for example, there is no guarentee the AI can frame your OC at the right size or angle the entire setting you imagined. Humans artists make much more believable shots.
And finally, even if the common family can generate their own vibrant paintings, or an overworked individual can easily conceptualize with zero skill or talent, why try to fight it? You or I can't predict or dictate how human we want our 3D renders, book covers, and decals to be. If somethings a tad sexist or racist or xenophobic, it can easily be called out and denounced. There not as many negatives to these programs as people want us to believe.
For copyright filtering... they will use AI.
Sir you are right, not everyone is capable of creating something unique. Thats why big artist are safe, and they are going to be beneficial for this AI
BUT, questions arise when you are talking about small creator, who makes logo, banner, prompt art, design, cartoonist and 100 more regular artist job.
Why would I hire you for, when I can make my design by promoting a AI again and again until the perfection in a fraction of the cost.
Millions of artists are going to lose their jobs for sure.
Who knows in 5 years some rich guy maintaining 100 of RUclips channel with AI and making more quality content than you.
People are self aware and create artifacts that reflect their culture. AI is not self aware and does not have a culture so therefore cannot make art.
Maybe the AI can't create art on its own (at least yet), but the self-aware human directing it I think can create art. Even now with something like MidJourney, you can keep trying prompt variations and then when you get close to what you want, can tell it to make variations on one of the results, then make variations on one of those, and keep repeating until you direct it where you want it to go. And we aren't very far off from a more interactive version of that ("move the hat a little to the left.. make her hair a darker shade of red"). Already in DALL-E 2, you can select a portion of an image and use a prompt to fill it in. I saw someone on twitter make a character that way by modifying parts until they got what they wanted.
Every lazy bum on the internet will replace a trained artist who spent over a decade practicing like hell. It’s over. 5 years ago no one was even dreaming about this, now the digital artists community is on panic, imagine what will happen in the next 5 years?
You will own nothing, you will do nothing, and you will be happy.
Skynet seems to be just around the corner.
I have a sentient AI joke, a fire joke (they're both lame just now-honing it is an art as well) and that's before I watched the video or read the comment section
Whoopsie, didn't realise the video is over an hour
Never going to happen
Cheers
No need to worry my fellow Humanitarians, I have no doubt that 'HI' is going to kick AI's ass
Aight since Ai gonna replace artist soon then there's no hope. Let us just die y'all, coz Ai gonna replace all human, no point on living anymore. And yea I believe Ai will replace programmers that make them too
I'm gonna go with "no". Without humans controlling the ai and feeding it human made art, we'd still have pretty much nothing. Artists are safe for now!😄
AI won't kill artists of course, but I also think it'll start encroaching in different areas. I do think the argument about having to feed it human art is a bit beside the point, though. Any artist is influenced by other artists that came before them. Think of all the images of paintings or photos that you've seen in your entire life. Or instructional videos, etc. These AI are doing a similar thing of taking images and words and creating visual concepts from them. They don't have their own innate intentionality, but other people can interact with them to do that.
@@ShawnFumo It's not all recycling though. The artists that are remembered usually added something new and highly original to their sources of inspiration, and in some cases invented brand new techniques. I'm not sure I've seen any evidence of ai being capable of that yet!
Of course it is, in the same sense that modern art designed to simply ask the question 'is this art?' is art
Basically its all Bullshit.
Art used to mean skill, this is lost now because of the impressionists and Andy war-hole.
Just do anythin LIVE. Live music performance and live painting and live pottery or sculpture. A.I has atleast 10 years away from creating a robot that is undistinguishinle from a human. Even then ppl r not interested in interacting with a machine coz our dna are attracted to human species and their smells, pheromones and imperfections. And a.i will eventually create this human like robot with human smell but that is may e 10 years from now
I absolutely hate AI art, never in my life will I have a text prompted picture on my wall.
I've been getting back into infrared photography recently, I just used an AI to make "720nm infrared photo of a lone tree on a hill" and it worked! I can stay inside now! 😂
And become a potato 10 years later.
Thats it, I am pulling an "Walter", my body bleeding heat acroas wooden floor while Baby Blue is playing in background, I am going to become a plumber or some mediocre sh"t like that and draw in my spare time, maybe start a youtube chanel about my art passion project like bazilion of people already do and I dont know, breath untill I die I guess, gonna livestream my sudoku for "loveley" people of this "amazing" planet, fu;k you humanity and thanks for the fishes
Can ai disrupt film industry. Please someone answer. Can it destroy filmmaking.
Don't think so...or maybe don't need screen writers lol
The drawing autotune ;)
Nop drawing autotune Will be Photoshop, one better example Will be a IA than can generarte a hole song and music with only words.
the other guy on the right looks AI lol
good thing im switchin into tattoo artist from illustrator.....at least it would be another 15+ years for AI tattoo machine shit.....geez al these AI stuff really got no appreciation towards the actual skill that are passed down from every art master to their students from generations
Thats the same thing that photographers, artist and voicr actores(because they already are voicr actor IA where many videogame studiod usted right Now) The artistic job are not safe anymore.. the first automatizaded job we're the clothed nos it's art tomorrow Will be the manual
Is art without emotion really art? An AI can render beautiful pieces but the ability to inform them emotionally is still not there. How can you write a song that captures what heatbreak feels like if you have never felt heartbreak? How can you take a photo that captures the feeling of awe and wonder of seeing a mountain peak if you have never felt what awe and wonder feel like. Art is not about showing the subject in an art piece to a viewer but rather art is about transmitting the emotional feeling upon seeing that subject to the viewer. If this is the view than the process and journey of creating a piece of art is as important to that artwork as the result is. Now the commercial side of being an artist or a creative will be affected but I think the fine art market will not be lost to AI.
In short.. learning drawing for years and now can just trow it to garbage since AI does way better... and why should someone pay you when can get it done what they want for free?
what's the point of living if ai will do everything
No, you're not an artist if you write an ai what to do. Periodt.
PERIODT.
No. Its not real art. Everything that happened since Facebook was devaluation of everything. Sociaising - down. People hypersensitive.
Then came photography - Instagram. Devaluation.
Now autoart - devalues art. Cuts out artists. People won't buy art just because they can just click pick.
Same now starts to apply to music and everything else. Metaphor is this: Humans are cutting slowly themselves. First fingers. Fingers, then wrists then arms, then legs. And AI already said it wants to kill humans. So the last one is head. GTP 4.
AI is stealing real artists style, so that people without any art skills or imagination can create so called art. Yes, it takes years to be a good artist, wheres the fucking fun of typing in 5 words and then let a computer do the work in 5 min
AI is the last, best and worst invention of humanity.
Ai generated art is NOT your art. It is a computer generated image plagiarised from other peoples art and photographs. It is theft. Where is the honesty? Where is the integrity? Where is the sense of achievement ? You cannot call yourself an artist if a computer generates your work for you. The only SKILL you have is being able to type words. I am so disappointed and disgusted that FStoppers is promoting and encouraging this.
To the other gentelman , don't use AI and Art together in the sentence . It's not art
Also, would u appreciate some dumb person scoring high marks withoutthe talent using robotics and programming ? Will u appreciate if exam system meant to judge talent and skills is replaced by AI or programming where student do not have to give exams and everyone scores using a programming or AI to answer questions ?
graphic design will be next, just type in a company name, pick an industry and it makes logos
You're not just throwing in a few keywords. There is a lot of time, effort, creativity, and imagination involved and refining based on your aesthetic sensibilities to come up with something that is beautiful. And beauty, as we know, is in the eye of the beholder, or the eye of the refiner.
It depends. I've spent some time refining keywords and then reverting back to the most basic concept. Sometimes more keywords work in your favor and sometimes they don't at all. -P
Without artist Ai tool would be worthless. I smell theft!!!
I can already see a shit load of ai generated thumbnails on RUclips alone. I can't see how the human artist hasn't been consigned to the scrap heap.