Norfolk Island Pine Update, The Bonsai Zone, Mar 2019
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- Опубликовано: 7 фев 2025
- It's been 2 1/2 years since the last video on these trees, time to see how they're doing!
Today's update is my donated Lemon tree bonsai.
Here is the playlist for previous Norfolk Island Pine videos.....
• Norfolk Island Pines
Here is the playlist for the Donated lemon trees.....
• Donated Lemon Trees
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So weird. Yesterday I was looking at my Norfolk Island Pine and remembered you had a video of them and was planning on looking it up again. Little did I know you were likely recording this video right around the same time. Thanks Nigel.
Our minds might be connected somehow in this vast universe!
Almost after 2 years my bonsai pics made into your viewer pics 😍 Thanks for showing them nigel. Look forward to more videos and inspiration
rashmi rp Very nice pics!
Apartment Grower Thank you
Has it been that long! Thank you for your patience and for sending in the pictures!
The roots grow like this, this is working like a spring to withstand storms
Those pines didn't look like much, but by the end of the episode I found them quite charming! They remind me a little of princess pines I used to see on the forest floor growing up.
I was also surprised with the end result, it's amazing how a bunch of cuttings can come together to make a forest!
Really excited about the lemon tree update. Your lemon tree video was the very first bonsai video for me and started me into the hobby! Thanks again Nigel.
Thank you Devin, nice to hear, happy growing!
@@TheBonsaiZone I was wondering if you have any advice for my ficus micocarpa. It had some rot on the main trunk. I cut it out and white mold keeps appearing where the cut attempts to heal. Any suggestions? Do I need to treat it systemically?
The forest looks great and the nice pot definitely suits. The lemon bonsai is looking good and nice to see the excellent viewers pics.
Thank you J, it went from a mess to a forest!
forest looks great , love thar family of trees ! theres probably 50 norfolk island pines within 5 miles of here and i cant buy seedlings anywhere . i tried cuttings a year ago from wollemi pines ( a relative of the norfolk) and yeah , of 10 , 3 died , 6 grew with no roots and one rooted , youve inspired me to try cuttings of the norfolk , thankyou
Good luck with them Peter, if you ever take pictures of the trees in your area, I'd love to see them!
thekwbonsaisociety@gmail.com
Like the arrangement of the Norfolk Island pines.
Thank you Pat, maybe some day they'll be up on the shores of a Norfolk Island penjing.
what a lovely coincidence - just a day after I purchased my first little norfolk island pine at the yearly tree and flower show at my community college
Good luck with it Dillon, they are tough to kill, but not impossible!
cant wait to see an update on your lemon bonsai with almost 2 million views
It's just coming out of dormancy also! I can't believe the video has that many views. I was thinking that I might give Instagram a try, finally. If you would like, I could take over the Fan Page you have created. Let me know and send me any thing that you think I need!
thekwbonsaisociety@gmail.com
You have done such a good job with Instagram, I am very thankful!
PS, if you want to keep the Fanpage separate, let me know also. It is your creation!
Nigel Saunders, The Bonsai Zone it’s because of that video I own 3 bonsai citrus trees now. I wasn’t into bonsai until about 2 months ago. Now I’ve got 8 willow trees 4 different kinds and a juniper bonsai as well. Only 25 and it’s been as fun of a hobby as gaming for me.
Hi Nigel. I have been binge watching your channel since I stumbled across it. I LOVE that you have all these playlists so that we can follow your progress. In the past 2 weeks, I have learned so much about creating a bonsai. When I watch one of your videos, I can now tell which roots you would cut and which ones you will keep. Same with the branches. You are an excellent teacher! Now I wish I had started 30 years ago! Thank you so much for your channel. Hugs from Germany
Thank you very much Ina, it must seem like time travelling, watching the videos back to back!
What's up Nigel! Amazing to see how far these trees have become in 2 1/2 years! Only reason I'm commenting after months of this being posted is that I've acquired some of these from Walmart at a rather cheap price 5$ and making a forest group is what I'm going for. I know you inspire me and many others with your Bonsai and you my friend have given me a great idea, best 5 bucks I've spent! Cant wait to see the update I would like to send pictures as well if I can .
A good price and I hope your forest turns out really well! You can send pictures to...
thekwbonsaisociety@gmail.com
Thanks Julio!
I've always wondered if Norfolk pines would look good as a forest and I see they do great job Nigel
I think they might have potential, I've never seen a forest, but I've seen a few nice ones as bonsai.
I’ve been following your video for some time now I’ve tried creating the Norfolk Island pine keep up the good work
I love the pot you chose. and the new music is great as well.
Thank you, I had fun creating the forest and the music!
Trees I have forgotten all about suddenly appears on the channel. Just love it!
It has been a long time, the trees have slowly been gaining strength!
I am looking forward to see how many survive this pruning. Just watched the whole playlist for this tree tonight. Fun to se the development (both in trees, camera quality and production). I love to watch you work.
Thank you very much, I'll take good care of the trees and hopefully the next update won't be 2 1/2 years from now!
Love your music Nigel. Very relaxing.
Thank you, i'm hoping to compose more original music for future videos!
Just an observation..Norfolk Island Pines are normally planted at the same depth when repotted, just like when planting any tree in your yard. When you were removing the trees prior to repotting I noticed the trees were planted pretty deep, part of the trunk was underground. Might be the reason for the couple of dead trees and small root growth on the remaining trees. It looked like you planted newly rooted cuttings pretty deep too.
Thank you Ronnie, good observation! I'll keep this in mind for future re pottings!
Nigel, after returning to Florida for the season, and watching your video (again), I just had to try a Norfolk forest. I created a 9 tree forest with landscape and I must say it looks absolutely AMAZING. Fingers crossed for survival, and thanks for the inspiration.
I'm glad you started a NIP forest! Mine is growing really strongly now, a video will be coming soon!
That arrangement looks awesome!
Thank you, a little tropical pine forest!
In awe of the length of that root. Absolute unit.
Me too, I would have never guessed!
You give me hope I will some day keep a Norfolk Pine alive. I just slip potted mine this year after xmass, and it was dead in a week Good thing they are cheap here.
Yes luckily they are inexpensive here also, I don't like to experiment on expensive trees!
Nigel, you have the magic touch.
Thank you RetroGal!
Nice, thx Nigel! I pruned my Norfolks after watching this video.... and will see if my cuttings will root.
Also, I recently made a maple forest and boy, was it hard to keep the seedlings in place! I kept thinking how easy you always make it look.
You just need four hands and a bit of luck! Happy growing!
Absolutely beautiful
great video Nigel ... I have some plants in forests with a species very similar to yours and I had the same problem of some plants dry without explanation ... the species is (Araucaria angustifolia) big hug friend ...
I just watched your video, really awesome!
ruclips.net/video/vSQPEMh5gsc/видео.html
Hopefully my little forest will grow well.
Fantastic update
, a cracking video I love bonsai forests. I have just purchased some Western hemlock trees, to make a forest, and seen your Forest has inspired me., keep the good work up Nigel look forward for the next video 👍😊😊
I love the Western Hemlock tree, perfect for bonsai! Thanks, see you on the next video!
I have a Norfolk Pine cutting I got from outside my workplace. Now I know what it is and how to prune it when it's ready, thank you! :)
Good luck with it Zack!
Creating forests has been the answer to what to do with all my cuttings. It’s also done wonders for squelching my wife’s complaints that I’ve got cutting all over the house. Now she thinks I’m creative and not just bat *#@% crazy. 😉 Thanks
Nice to hear Matt, many of my forests were expanded by using cuttings! There does come a time where you do run out of room and no one wants any more cuttings, sadly they just become compost.
Nigel, Very Beautiful. The placement of your Norfolk Pine Trees actually looks Very similar to the giant Ponderosa Pine Trees that I worked under all day. Sherrallea
Thank you, i like when bonsai reminds you of a time and a place in your life!
my picture,s in the video , what a nice suprice ! the plant or tree died ,but i tried two other time,s and the last time they survived ,Thanks !
I just find it amazing how you can keep your trees straight with just a speck of soil holding them
I'm good at balancing rocks too! I think it's a bit of practice and a bit of luck!
This was a great episode. I thought the music was lovely.
Thank you Dave, I had fun composing it!
half an hour turned into 5min! awesome work!🙇♂️
Thank you!
@@TheBonsaiZone aww thank u Nigel! love ur videos, such a big inspiration! i learned so much from u!😃
greets from switzerland!!
Great video nigel, I have gone and repotted my pomegranate and its dropped all its leaves I am hopping it will come back fingers crossed..I also repotted my jades they have took well I am a bit worried about my ficus I bought it only last month ,and it was planted in coco husk which was very wet I have repotted it into a mix similar to yours just hope it takes ,you have a very high success rate with your plants growing in your mix I am hopping I have the same .keep the videos coming please I have learned a lot from them..
Best of luck Mike, keep them misted a few times a day, especially on sunny days where they could dry out fast indoors.
@@TheBonsaiZone thanks nigel you are The Bonsai Guru, just wished I had your experience..
Norfolk Is pines make a great forest, who would have thought!
The forest is still green and it looks like the trees are just starting to grow again!
Thanks for the video on these beautiful trees. Do you think that applying some root hormone would help? I will try not trimming my trees back so severely, and maybe do it in stages.
I have heard that pure Sphagnam moss helps rooting, I guess it is because it holds moisture whilst aerating roots. I think there are conservation concerns with it though.
Michael from our club just collects the moss growing on logs in the woods and uses that. He says it works really well!
I didn't know you made your music for your videos. Super rad.
Good work Nigel
Thank you F R!
What a crazy root :D thx for sharing
Yes, hard to believe, something just went right with that tree!
Hi sir aft reporting looks butyfull forest. I loved cuttings sir...
Thank you Asgar, it went from a mess to something that looks decent!
Those look interesting. I like Pine trees
Thank you, it does create a coniferous forest look to it!
Will you for me, grow some pigeon peas and make a bonsai forest from them? If you have never seen them grow, The seeds are easy to germinate and are very fast growers into thick trunks and tall in just a few months. I will watch for the video to come out. Thanks and Good Luck!
An interesting suggestion!
Can you make a video on how you do your cuttings?? Very interested to learn that.. Thank you.. Great content as always
I will, it mostly just involves sticking the cutting in bonsai soil and keeping it well watered. Some make it, others don't.
Mr Nigel good evening. Can you show us how you grow this plant norfolk from cuttings? I tried it many times but l failed.
Good morning 👍😇👍
A good morning it is, the first signs of plant life were coming up in the forest this morning, spring is on it's way!
@@TheBonsaiZone awesome can't wait to see
I have some of my bonsai in lava rock and some in potting soil can I mix both together and how much of each. What is a good bonsai soil mix. That will keep them alive if I forget to water one or two days since I'm busy with school and other things. Thank you Uncle 🌳🌲
It can depend on your climate, in a wet climate, the potting soil might keep the soil too wet, in a hot dry climate it will help. Generally the finer the particle size, the longer water will be retained in your soil.
Hi Nigel! The pot is broken, ok. But yu say it has no established rootbase und it's not vigorous. So why repotting? The forest is looking good nevetheless.
Just and inspection and light trim, they could have been left in the old pot for a while longer, but it's nice to see what's going on with the roots.
beautiful music nigel!
Thank you, I used MuseScore, it's free software and quite easy to use!
@@TheBonsaiZone wow thanks for the tip, i am also thinking in making my own youtube channel, that will be related to what you do, you have inspired me a lot! :D i will play with the software to see what i campose :D thanks again for your reply :D
I was always taught that you can’t prune, top cut or root cuttings of Norfolk’s. Then, years ago I used to pass by the large windowed showroom of a car dealership everyday that had a very nice 8 foot tall Norfolk. Well, one day I noticed that they had lopped off the top 3 feet and planted it in a separate pot. I thought, welp that won’t take and they’ve ruined a lovely tree. As the months went by the mother plant slowly sent up new leaders and the cutting looked no worse for wear. Eventually curiosity got the better of me and I went inside the showroom and made a very odd inquiry. They gladly let me examine the trees . The momma was thriving and the baby was well rooted and pushing out strong new growth! ~ There’s lots of do’s, don’ts and ‘old wives tails’ in the gardening world. Many are straightforward and true but some don’t hold water. I think these Norfolk Pine don’ts came about because they ARE true to an extent for PINE trees, not necessarily for Araucarias.
Cool story and nice to hear it can be done!
Beautiful
Thank you very much!
Norfolk Island Pines are really ancient... and are related to the recently discovered Wollemi Pine and some of the South American species...
Thank you, it's so fun researching trees! I love getting a new species and reading all I can on it.
@@TheBonsaiZone Living in tropical Aus, the Norfolk Island pine is rather special here... it is often bought as a small pot plant as... Christmas Trees! Then when they outgrow the pot, they get planted out into the garden... if one has the room, as they get really big. We have 4 majestic specimens in our front yard.
I was under the impression that Norfolk Island Pines don't like hard pruning. Also, I was thinking about the long, singular roots. Their natural habitat is quite sandy, I believe. Maybe they naturally send out one long root to try to get to the quality soil under the sandy top. I also have a Norfolk Island Pine forest but can't see how to post a picture here.
Hello Peter, I'd love to see the pictures! My email is....
thekwbonsaisociety@gmail.com
I've had good luck with pruning them so far, hopefully my luck will continue!
Hi Nigel lemon tree is looking great would you let lemons grow on it or not or is it still too young
If it flowers, I'll be sure to let a Lemon form!
Is it possible to make a bonsai of a creeper plant? I pulled out a 15 year old creeper bush from the ground and it looks very good on the bonsai pot. I potted it three weeks back and has happily settled down and starting to grow new leaves. Don't know how to keep it as a miniature!
I think it might work well, you will have a very nice accent plant if nothing else!
@@TheBonsaiZone how and when do I prune it though? It keeps growing looking for support
I'm so happy to see these trees made it. An Araucaria that my boyfriend bought me for Christmas two years ago didn't make it through my rather rough root pruning.
But (something I haven't seen in the comments) I felt I should mention that Norfolk Island Pine cuttings should only be taken from the apex of the trees, if you want to grow a tree. Otherwise, root cuttings from horizontal growth will continue to grow horizontally, though they may, one day, decide to become trees after trailing along the ground for years.
I'm forgetting the fancy, scientific word for the phenomena, but the Atlanta Botanical Gardens has a rather nice collections of rooted Araucaria branches scrambling through the rafters of their orangerie (and they've got several species of Araucaria with nice boles, to).... I'm wondering now if horizontal cuttings from this family could be good candidates for semi/cascade stylings.
Great video. I can't wait to see how the forest progresses. Inspires me to try again -- though, this time with some material that hasn't been sitting inside a super market for several weeks.
- Hyacinthe
P.S. - Do you do anything in particular to keep these plants cool during the Summer? After mine died, I did some speculating and some research on its native environment and decided that the plant probably expired from high temperatures, as it seemed to be loving my bedroom during the winter and the porch during our Springs.
Thank you a very interesting explanation, I'll have to look for this with my trees! I've been growing mine on the outdoor benches. The benches get the full afternoon sun from 11 am to about 7 pm. I do water them a lot to keep the soil cool on hot days.
Best of luck with trees in future!
23:10 - 24:12 I cant focus on anything else than the Isopod just wondering around the edge of the pot!
LucasWerewolf same here!
Same here, when I was editing all I could do was watch it crawl around the pot wondering where it would go!
Super comme toujours. J’ai une question : est ce que vous avez un ou des poivriers? Si oui , pouvez vous nous faire une petite vidéo sur eux. Cordialement
Je n'ai pas de poivrons comme bonsaï, je n'ai tout simplement pas la place pour plus d'arbres pour le moment. Découvrez Bonsai by LAN, il a de bons bonsaïs Pepper ....
ruclips.net/video/x6cDOzA_ytQ/видео.html
Merci je regarde ça
Best for you
Thank you very much Eyup!
Well.. I guess ive found a good indoor conifer tree for future experiment myself!
Awesome awesome 👏 👍😇👍🌳
Thank you Henry! Hoping they grow well!
@@TheBonsaiZone say hello to the family also Billy idol😇🌳🌲🏞️
Hi Nigel, I enjoy your videos!
A question not directly related to this last one: when you repot your trees, you often say that you start combing the roots from the center (trunk) and then gradually move outwards towards the root tips. Wouldn’t it be easier and gentler to do it the other way round, starting by untangling the tips?
A combination of the two is probably ideal!
Thanks
Hey Nigel do you ever use rooting hormones to get your cuttings to grow roots faster?
I've heard that mashing young willow branches and boiling it makes a good rooting hormone as its abundant in willows.
I haven't used rooting hormone yet, but it is supposed to help with the rooting!
loved the music you wrote. I'm curious to know have you written much music besides this piece?
Thank you, I have tried a few pieces, but not many. I'm using MuseScore and just learning to use it. I thought I might as well try and use my own music on the videos occasionally!
@@TheBonsaiZone its fab it fits the videos well
Very nice
Thank you RBG!
Dear Nigel I need help creating a Norfolk. Island pine forest do you have a workshop that I can attend
Kind Regards Maya
hi nigle how are you ? excellent work on pine tree if i bought a norfork island pine from nursrey it is kind of a christmas tree how to prune it ? thats my doubt and you can clear it. thank you . have a nice day cheers!
I think if you just try and keep it as a triangular form, it should grow well. Best of luck with your tree!
Nigel! I was just at the nursery yesterday and saw some wee rain tree starters and immediately thought of yours. I wanted to get one, but I was concerned about the "rain" sap. Does it get everywhere?
No, I don't think you'll ever notice it, only if you park your tree under it on a very hot day!
Sorry this is off topic of the video but really hoping you respond. Is it possible to make a bonsai out of aptenia cordifolia?
It is possible, however it may not be a traditional looking bonsai, but I would give it a try!
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aptenia_cordifolia
They finish at about 3 feet. We have them at pool side.
The largest NIP that I've ever seen was about 15 feet tall.
I live near the original county of Norfolk in England, it should be pronounced Naarfuk :) Love the Channel by the way.
Thank you Ash, good to know!
I live in Michigan and was surprised to see a Michigan shirt😂 do you go to Michigan a lot?
We used to, the kids liked to do their back to school shopping at Pinewood mall. I haven't been State side for about 4 years now.
Can anyone enlight me on how to propagate these from cuttings? How long do they have to be before transplanted in peat moss for example?
The cuttings usually require 2 years before they root, kept them well watered and mist them regularly for those years!
@@TheBonsaiZone Thank you! Do they need to be apex to root properly? And how long should they be?
Great job once again what's the ratio of the mix 50/50
Yes and the 50/50 is approximate, I just mix it by eye.
I started some also, four tangled together, so I planted all four, but two died.
You can always add more or try growing cuttings from the two that are left. I've seen very small ones for sale in nurseries that are really inexpensive also!
Have you ever tried a *casuarina* / an *allocasuarina* ?
I've never seen them around here, but some day I might order some seeds!
@@TheBonsaiZone ❤️
@@TheBonsaiZone If you do some day, *Casuarina sp.* seem to be growing near water while *Allocasuarina sp.* grow in drier conditions.
Random info thrown at you 🤷🏼♂️
did you cut the lower needles, or how do they become so woody? great work.
The branches will become woody with time, it does take a few years!
Hi Nigel! I was interested in whether I can stimulate rapid root growth on new collected trees. Many of them have few roots and, as a rule, they don’t recover so quickly. Studying various articles, I came across a product called Rhizotonic. But as it turned out, there are many opposite opinions about the effectiveness of Rhizotonic. Many say that this is a placebo effect, but for example, Harry Harrington says that Rhizotonic is effective, showing a lot of roots on the trunk (!) of maple and hawthorn. Maybe it’s just an advertisement. Does anyone have any real experience using Rhizotonic? Is he a stimulant of rooting or is it more like a Superthrive? Maybe someone knows a really effective means to rooting stimulate?
The way i understand it, if you cut the roots off the tree, it creates an hormonal in-balance, so the tree will try and grow more roots to match the load of the foliage up top. If you cut off the top of the tree, the hormones are again unbalanced and the tree will release hormones to re grow the top of the tree to again create a balance between the roots and the branches. Rooting hormone has been shown to improve the rooting of cuttings so it seems logical that it would help the tree recover after re potting. I have no experience using it, but hopefully someone in the nursery business can help!
I think you should hide from the FBI, the things you are achieving with those Araucarias are not normal at all! Fantastic work.
Thank you, I do use alien technology at times!
Nigel, I hear it's not always good to wet the foliage when watering certain trees\plants because it can create fungal growth. What's your take on this?
I think as long as you have good air circulation and they are not kept wet all day long, the trees should be fine. Maples seem hardest hit with fungal infections and it's hard to keep the black spot off them around here. They get the morning and evening dew and it's very hard to keep the leaves dry.
@@TheBonsaiZone Yeah, I figure as long as they dry quickly it shouldn't be a problem. And it's funny you mentioned maples because that's the exact tree I have problems with when it gets too wet like you say. It gets kind of rough down here in Tallahassee during the rainy season lol.. Anyways, love the forest! Thanks for the reply as always!
You shouldd not take all of the old soil away. Pinus and sprouse lives in symbios whith bacteria and fungus, so thats mayby why they are so sensitive to rootpruning and repotting. Sorry for my bad english. Love youre chanel! 😊😊
Thank you, I did use a bit of the old soil in with the new.
@@TheBonsaiZone Oh, I did not see that! Sorry! I look forvard to every video you make! 😊😊😊👍
How do you keep these trees alive?
Just regular watering. I've never had a problem with pests or disease. I usually leave them out on the bench for the summer in full sun.
@@TheBonsaiZone Thank you ❤️
foist?
It seems yes :))
Ali, you are Foist once again!
Oh I think this is the first time after the 100K milestone. Not sure how I am supposed to compete when you get to 1M.
Very nice Ali!
@@dubsydabster Thanks, boss. :) It all started with you. The foistology rooted from your mind the foist master.
I think thay have a taproot
I would like to aquire your skills Sensei 🙏😇🙏
Thank you, hopefully the videos will help!
Go easy pines and JUNIPERs do not like too much pruning; fuzzy is ok for them. They are so pretty.
Thanks!
You forgot your rock. 😊 also the right side foreground needs a tree.
Matthew kizziah he did not. At 26:21 you can see that he took it out and put it on his table.
Thank you Matthew, I did remember to remove the rock and I'm sure the forest design will be tweaked in future! I always do change something!
I miss Apple tree updates
Sadly the Apple tree isn't doing well, but it is still alive and maybe some day will recover!
I've waited so long for this, really liked the first video you did on those trees. By the way i found a channel on youtube recently that you might be intrested in ''arboristBlairGlenn'' . He covers a whole spectrum of other aspects on trees.
Blair has an excellent and entertaining channel.
I've been watching his videos, he likes to keep the trees looking natural, just like me!
ruclips.net/user/arboristBlairGlenn
They live 700 years! What you have there are babies!
Yes indeed, I'be seen pictures of some giant ones!
Bonsai is real
Or is it just fantasy. Easy come , easy go.....
Leave the roots long! Seperate them ok! Fur tree fan. UKULELE HOLLY BLOE BONSAI CLUB
Hopefully I didn't take too much off this time!
I feel lile these trees dont grow branchs
They do slowly over time. They are a challenge to grow as bonsai, but can be very beautiful if you are patient!
@@TheBonsaiZone i cant even find pictures on google. Yours is literally the only example i can find and i want to knowwwwwwwwwww
@@TheBonsaiZone have you heard of monkey puzzle trees?
May I have your email address so I can send you my bonsai photos too?
You can email me at...
thekwbonsaisociety@gmail.com
Thanks Vergel!
They are a bigger BONSAI. WE HAVE THEM AT CAPTAIN'S COVE GOLF AND YACHT CLUB VIRGINIA
Cool!
N
ight time for me!