Chessvibes means only Magnus and Hikaru exists lol just joking he means what a normal player would do is to mate a ladder mate and not Aman ofcourse because he did not even CONSIDER a ladder mate lol
The game was an IM against a GM. It's polite to resign when your loss is guaranteed, to save both players' time, because you know that your opponent knows how to checkmate you
Having 6 pawns vs a similar rated player would be so hard to accomplish in real life. But, that’s one of the coolest ways to troll someone I’ve ever seen
I watched GM Ben Finegold do this to a subscriber quite a while ago. It's hilarious. Saw another video where he tried again but accidentally made two of the same color bishops and said it was the worst day of his life. Lol
Did Ben Finegold use this (or maybe a similar) line? Only the last few moves are critical. Getting the king to the 2nd to last rank could have been done in fewer moves. But since he was pre-moving and had only 2-3 seconds left, it makes sense to just memorise a pre-calculated sequence that's guaranteed to get the desired result, and then just pre-moving all the moves.
This started with Finegold. It was actually not a real game by Finegold...Finegold actually scripted it. According to many discord users, Aman Hambleton then scripted a game in which he used it. Basically, This trick has never been used in a actual real game. Its only been used in staged content.
As Nelson said, you can analyse the line and understand this is a guaranteed mating sequence where nothing can go wrong unless the king was in a 'bad' starting position. Once you know how to do it and got it memorised, you just premove everything. It's just how fast you can move the mouse, so 5 sec, 3 sec, 2 sec, isn't incredible - the hard work figuring it out has already been done.
Here's how you do it: Move here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here,.
Even remembering all of this and being willing to do it in a real match against an IM with low time is impressive in itself What makes this truly ridiculous is that the end was ALL PREMOVES. Somehow he has memorized how to do this so well that he could execute it without hesitating at all. That is some next-level dedication to disrespect.
Against an *IM, not GM ;) But, yeah, everything else you said is just as valid ^_^ It's amazing how Aman actually not only invented this, but practiced it enough to be able to premove all of it.
@@masteroogway2438 no that’s still not inventing something. That’s simply giving it attention. This line was already invented, nothing you say will change that.
He clearly figured out the guaranteed mating sequence beforehand. As Nelson points out, memorising the last ~20 moves isn't all that hard. Practice a few times, and you're good to go if you are lucky enough to get the other required conditions.
A lot of people are saying Ben Finegold did it first, so I'd just like to let people know that there is a video of Aman doing this in 2020. This is not first time he's done it. It's just this time it's against an IM, and it was all premoves.
Chess arbiter here. In my practice I saw a player setting up his pieces all the way down to their initial places only once, but without the checkmate part, which is new to me. Old idea with fresh touch, wow! Stubborness giving a birth to a new level of disrespec, what do you know.
A few months back I was watching some Ben Finegold clips and he was chatting with his wife while playing students or stream followers and he did this exact checkmate. He promoted all of his pawns to his starting pieces and escorted the king to the second rank. It's odd he got no recognition for it.
"It's odd he got no recognition for it." Not quite that odd considering he didn't do it first, so.... There's video proof of Aman doing it since 2020, and he might have been doing it even longer. Fingold just jumped on this mate when it became viral, he isn't really special for that.
I learned this from a friend back in the 1970s, and I have called it after him since then. I have routinely used it against players who refuse to resign in informal games and blitz. Urquhart's Mate is what i will always call it. Thanks Don.
"I'd rather not have to re-setup the board after the game. Instead I'm going to do 7 promotions, walk the pieces back to their starting squares, be careful the whole time not to stalemate, also be careful not to mess up this overly elaborate mating pattern, and then still have to re-setup the pawns afterward anyway."
I reached 1000 rapid today since creating my account around 8 months ago. Pretty cool to finally get there. A little worried about cheaters getting more common going forward but I'll cross that bridge when I get to it.
@Kuest0786 ok good for you, people learn at different speeds and I had a lot of times where I was tilting for even days at a time not getting anywhere.
I also do the same in this situation, I always promote all my original pieces and put them back to the starting square. I did it so many times and it is so much fun.
If they don't resign at any point during this beautiful, elaborate mess of a checkmate, and then they get upset enough to quit chess, the chess world is better off without them.
Note that it may be useful when placing the GM logo, this does not indicate that he is one of the great chess players, this means that he is a chess player, and when placing the IM or IM logo, this indicates that he is one of the great professional players in the world, and its meaning is I'm, meaning I am the world champion, while GM is an abbreviation for the word GM or unknown player from the champions
I just did this too! Thank you for the lesson, that was fun and I've never memorized 20 moves in a row before. I didn't know I could do that, which makes me want to teach this to others.
Wrong side of history? You mean the side with narcissists, eating buttholes and having thirty spouses that you have orgies with every night, with BDSM and losing all free speech? Or the side with compassion, tender affection, monogamy, mercy and freedoms?
I congratulate you for your channel and I thank you for what you teach, I would like to recommend that you include in your videos Spanish subtitles because we are many Latinos who follow your channel and that would help us to be more sure of what we learn thanks to you, and God bless you and may you continue to succeed day by day.
Only to be completely precise (and firemost to argy-bargy), Calvary (with the capital "c") is the Latin name of the mountain (or hill) where Jesus got crucified (the Aramaic name variant is Golgotha) - the verb variant ("calvary", or maybe it is "do", "make or "walk a calvary" in english) is based off this
In hindsight, it should have been easy to figure out. Just reverse engineer it: put your pieces in the starting position, ask yourself where the enemy king needs to be for a checkmate in that position, then figure out what the previous move had to be to force the king there, then figure out the move preceding that move, the move preceding that move, etc. You know what they say about hindsight though. I'd have never thought to begin figuring this out. It's brilliant.
The best response after initially not resigning would be to catch on two what your opponents is up to and then before they can see the plan to its conclusion, resign
That was beautiful , i think there is hope for chess because that was so creative yet brilliant that i think elevated The situation to be like piece of Art rather than just ordinary chess match. However disrrspectful this kind of playing is i think is still more artistic and brilliant as such more good than harmful. Makes me think of freestyle rap battles just beautiful.
I once got a game where I managed to promote 4 pawns to queens and then placed them in all four corners. The guy had been extremely rude over chat, so I wanted to embarrass him a little.
This doesn't seem to require as many moves as you made. Seems you just push the king to the back tank to the left any way you like. Then, push the king forward as is required to get the king to follow that path to C2 while the queen then returns home.
I think this was more than fair to be honest. Yea I guess it could be seen as humiliating at such a high level but he could have also just resigned at any point to avoid that. The other factor to consider is that to pull this off he also gave his opponent a fairly decent chance to play for a draw by flagging him, which he almost did with .9 seconds left on the clock.
This is an awesome way to mock the Person who won't call a game. And then an even more epic way to lose. If these are the rules it's not a controversy at all. The rules are the rules and nothing should be changed about this game- it's been around FOREVER and you can bet this has happened before, but we've only had the net for a short time relative to how long Chess has been around. Dude with White should have won but his hubris lost him the match- I am rusty now, but 4-5 games against a skilled player will bring my fire back- I was VERY good at chess for a while when I played regularly, I only ever ran into on person who could beat me more than I beat him- he'd win 2/3 and I got a really nice compliment from the guy- dude was really good and was hunting for a challenge- I got to give it to him even though he was better. Man, I should get back into chess, it's such a great game- these Days I'm more addicted to poker though, which I'm quite good at it seems.
I had a chance to do this to an opponent, but felt to bad, so decided against it, and just went with a simple checkmate. I feel like if I had done this anyways, my opponent would of resigned and if he didn't he would of blocked me afterwards (I can't blame him). So I don't know, likely not worth it.
1:39 To be clear, I didn't mean Aman is an intermediate player lol.
Thought , man Nelson's standards are so high !!! 🤣
Fyi, Aman didn't invent this. Ben Finegold does this all the time.
@@chriselcombe847 Wait what!
@@ChessVibesOfficial Google "ben finegold sets up for next game"
Chessvibes means only Magnus and Hikaru exists lol just joking he means what a normal player would do is to mate a ladder mate and not Aman ofcourse because he did not even CONSIDER a ladder mate lol
The fact that he’s doing all this with 2 seconds on the clock is even more impressive.
Hikaru would be proud
I believe the sequence of movements is such that it always work, so he can premove everything
Dude asked for the most elaborate mate by not resigning.
20 year old german and Coach already lol
He got respect to appreciate the beauty.
Facts
@@Bruh-bk6yo 💯
Absolutely called for when someone’s holding out hoping for a “out of time vs. Insufficient material” draw.
Imagine disrespecting you opponent on the level of setting up the board BEFORE the level ends
The game was an IM against a GM. It's polite to resign when your loss is guaranteed, to save both players' time, because you know that your opponent knows how to checkmate you
That's why you need to resign when the game is clearly lost. If you don't, you deserve to be trolled.
Having 6 pawns vs a similar rated player would be so hard to accomplish in real life. But, that’s one of the coolest ways to troll someone I’ve ever seen
Only fair because he refused to resign.
I did it the other day!
I watched GM Ben Finegold do this to a subscriber quite a while ago. It's hilarious. Saw another video where he tried again but accidentally made two of the same color bishops and said it was the worst day of his life. Lol
What is this video called? I love Ben and need to see it.
Did Ben Finegold use this (or maybe a similar) line? Only the last few moves are critical. Getting the king to the 2nd to last rank could have been done in fewer moves. But since he was pre-moving and had only 2-3 seconds left, it makes sense to just memorise a pre-calculated sequence that's guaranteed to get the desired result, and then just pre-moving all the moves.
This started with Finegold. It was actually not a real game by Finegold...Finegold actually scripted it. According to many discord users, Aman Hambleton then scripted a game in which he used it. Basically, This trick has never been used in a actual real game. Its only been used in staged content.
I'm pretty sure I've seen Ben do this once or twice. Maybe not this move order.
Nelson: walking away after winning otb at a tournament
Opponent: wait, your pawns!
2:12 bro turned into hikaru
Fr
we’re talking about THIIIIIIS
nah that would be "takes takes takes..."
MARTIN -- 250 elo
NELSON -- 2501 ELO
CONCLUSION -- 1 ELO makes a huge difference
😂😂😂😂
Lol
You do know 2501 means that Neslon’s way better right? It’s more than 1 elo
@@light_switch708of course someone didn't get the joke
@@jampi_2008 ik it was now it wasn’t obvious though
New mate in 20 unlocked.
Without pawns
The most remarkable thing is that Aman did the whole thing in less than 10 seconds and the 20 move mate in under three seconds!
As Nelson said, you can analyse the line and understand this is a guaranteed mating sequence where nothing can go wrong unless the king was in a 'bad' starting position. Once you know how to do it and got it memorised, you just premove everything. It's just how fast you can move the mouse, so 5 sec, 3 sec, 2 sec, isn't incredible - the hard work figuring it out has already been done.
If anyone complains, it's their own fault for not resigning with king only vs half an army.
Never resign, your opponent might blunder
@@UloPe not a GM and not half of their pieces
@@UloPeHoping that a GM will blunder a stalemate in this position is as disrespectful as what the GM did
@@cegalleta8/16 is half
Never resign, your opponent might get an heart attack
Here's how you do it: Move here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here, and here,.
Oops. I moved there.
Even remembering all of this and being willing to do it in a real match against an IM with low time is impressive in itself
What makes this truly ridiculous is that the end was ALL PREMOVES. Somehow he has memorized how to do this so well that he could execute it without hesitating at all. That is some next-level dedication to disrespect.
Against an *IM, not GM ;)
But, yeah, everything else you said is just as valid ^_^ It's amazing how Aman actually not only invented this, but practiced it enough to be able to premove all of it.
@@ChristomirRackovhe did not invent this but it’s still extremely impressive to memorize it and play it in a time scramble.
@@AnthonyGonzalez-zy5zmhe invented it he’s made multiple videos describing it
@@masteroogway2438 no that’s still not inventing something. That’s simply giving it attention. This line was already invented, nothing you say will change that.
He clearly figured out the guaranteed mating sequence beforehand. As Nelson points out, memorising the last ~20 moves isn't all that hard. Practice a few times, and you're good to go if you are lucky enough to get the other required conditions.
2:29 - this is Hikaru style :))
I was wondering how there is no 50 move rule violation, didn’t realize pawn moves reset the count
Maximum disrespect: open with the bongcloud then finish with this.
Next challenge: What is highest rated bot that this can be accomplished against?
Imagine if he resigned right before the checkmate 😂
An annoying reply to his disrespect👌🏼 opponent's hardwork into garbage😂
Come on, at that point you become so curious yourself what he's actually doing, no way you can resign.
Not resigning is always an invitation for a free lesson ;-)
i love how chess is such a versatile game that people figured this silliness out
Don’t forget to mention he did this all within a few seconds of premoving
Yeah you can see it on the timer lmao
A lot of people are saying Ben Finegold did it first, so I'd just like to let people know that there is a video of Aman doing this in 2020. This is not first time he's done it. It's just this time it's against an IM, and it was all premoves.
I never even thought about the fact that you have to promote your bishops on opposite colored squares. That's wild.
loooll
You also can't promote all of your pawns at once, because you run the risk of getting a draw by the 50-move rule.
@@christopherheckman7957that’s super rare, after even one promotion one generally has a clear advantage
You almost had this in a real game yesterday…
Wow , that's incredible ! Fancy being able to even conceive of such an idea , then to work out a learnable method !! Hats off !!!!
Chess arbiter here. In my practice I saw a player setting up his pieces all the way down to their initial places only once, but without the checkmate part, which is new to me. Old idea with fresh touch, wow! Stubborness giving a birth to a new level of disrespec, what do you know.
I feel like Finegold has been doing it for well over a year. He even did a sideways one a couple weeks ago.
And by "I feel like" I mean I know he did because I've watched him do it at least 3 different times.
Aman first did it 2020.
Me following a cheat sheet with my smartphone at a chess tournament:
- Magnus: "is your phone vibrating?"
2:12 Bro obviously think he's Nakamura 😂
A few months back I was watching some Ben Finegold clips and he was chatting with his wife while playing students or stream followers and he did this exact checkmate. He promoted all of his pawns to his starting pieces and escorted the king to the second rank. It's odd he got no recognition for it.
Ben Finegold does this frequently, yeah.
"It's odd he got no recognition for it."
Not quite that odd considering he didn't do it first, so.... There's video proof of Aman doing it since 2020, and he might have been doing it even longer. Fingold just jumped on this mate when it became viral, he isn't really special for that.
@@x_MoonlitShade Are you sure about every single one of your assertions?
1:25 just do a quick simple queen checkmate and then you have a lot of time to set up the board again 🤦♂️
This game was pure sadism, and should've been labeled a war crime. Glorious.
My face was actually in disgust when I saw the mate
I learned this from a friend back in the 1970s, and I have called it after him since then. I have routinely used it against players who refuse to resign in informal games and blitz. Urquhart's Mate is what i will always call it. Thanks Don.
"I'd rather not have to re-setup the board after the game. Instead I'm going to do 7 promotions, walk the pieces back to their starting squares, be careful the whole time not to stalemate, also be careful not to mess up this overly elaborate mating pattern, and then still have to re-setup the pawns afterward anyway."
I reached 1000 rapid today since creating my account around 8 months ago. Pretty cool to finally get there. A little worried about cheaters getting more common going forward but I'll cross that bridge when I get to it.
Nice man
1000 in 8 months ? wtf… I needed 2 or 3 weeks for this… 1000 is pretty low…
@@Kuest0786some ppl learn faster some dont. No need to be an a*shole about it
@Kuest0786 ok good for you, people learn at different speeds and I had a lot of times where I was tilting for even days at a time not getting anywhere.
@Kuest0786 wow you are insufferable. How does it feel to have zero friends?
I remember that Aman Hambleton came up with this! So fun.
The fact it goes viral now though, that was yeaaaars ago.
“do your worst” ahh game 😭🙏
I just did it against Martin myself (900)
I also do the same in this situation, I always promote all my original pieces and put them back to the starting square. I did it so many times and it is so much fun.
If they don't resign at any point during this beautiful, elaborate mess of a checkmate, and then they get upset enough to quit chess, the chess world is better off without them.
Note that it may be useful when placing the GM logo, this does not indicate that he is one of the great chess players, this means that he is a chess player, and when placing the IM or IM logo, this indicates that he is one of the great professional players in the world, and its meaning is I'm, meaning I am the world champion, while GM is an abbreviation for the word GM or unknown player from the champions
The craziest thing about this is that the checkmate position doesn't even look like it would be checkmate on first glance...
The positions at 0:30 and 0:39 are impossible.
A bit of a faux pas!
I just did this too! Thank you for the lesson, that was fun and I've never memorized 20 moves in a row before. I didn't know I could do that, which makes me want to teach this to others.
disrespect gambit: reconstruction variation
2:12 here here here here here here
Disrespect by not resigning a losing position. Disrespect by making him an example in another amazing checkmate for the ages.
Bruhhh!! the amount of mockery in that game is deadly.
The Machine came out on the wrong side of history
Wrong side of history? You mean the side with narcissists, eating buttholes and having thirty spouses that you have orgies with every night, with BDSM and losing all free speech? Or the side with compassion, tender affection, monogamy, mercy and freedoms?
I congratulate you for your channel and I thank you for what you teach, I would like to recommend that you include in your videos Spanish subtitles because we are many Latinos who follow your channel and that would help us to be more sure of what we learn thanks to you, and God bless you and may you continue to succeed day by day.
Nastiest thing is he calculated this checkmate 100 moves before end of game. And removed nearly ALL the moves 🤯
5:40 Calvary is what Jesus did on the cross.. Cavalry is a military unit :) and this is silly, hilarious, and fun content..
omg I hear people do this all. the. time.
Only to be completely precise (and firemost to argy-bargy), Calvary (with the capital "c") is the Latin name of the mountain (or hill) where Jesus got crucified (the Aramaic name variant is Golgotha) - the verb variant ("calvary", or maybe it is "do", "make or "walk a calvary" in english) is based off this
@@richardberenyi6064 good point, thanks for the better clarification
This is the best checkmate I have ever seen in my life.
In hindsight, it should have been easy to figure out. Just reverse engineer it: put your pieces in the starting position, ask yourself where the enemy king needs to be for a checkmate in that position, then figure out what the previous move had to be to force the king there, then figure out the move preceding that move, the move preceding that move, etc. You know what they say about hindsight though. I'd have never thought to begin figuring this out. It's brilliant.
The best response after initially not resigning would be to catch on two what your opponents is up to and then before they can see the plan to its conclusion, resign
Another great video. Thanks Nelson
He's got swag for sure. Styling on someone so hard because they disrespect you by not conceding.
I've done that playing chess with my younger brother when he was a kid, but not the reset part.
Bro was playing stock fish 25 levels
2:12 close your eyes and think of any chess game ever, you will hear Nelson narrating it
has this dude ever figured out martin always takes when his piece can't be taken back, he doesn't trade
Hardest part of this challenge is finding an opponent that doesn't surrender
Needed co-operation from both sides ... Imagine how he would feel when the opponent resigns when he is about to set the last piece in place
Why are you doing this? - Because I can.
This ending is also known as the Ben Finegold Immortal
This is a chess analogue of breaking Elder Scrolls games with alchemy loops.
This man has achieved chim on the board.
That was beautiful , i think there is hope for chess because that was so creative yet brilliant that i think elevated The situation to be like piece of Art rather than just ordinary chess match. However disrrspectful this kind of playing is i think is still more artistic and brilliant as such more good than harmful. Makes me think of freestyle rap battles just beautiful.
I once got a game where I managed to promote 4 pawns to queens and then placed them in all four corners. The guy had been extremely rude over chat, so I wanted to embarrass him a little.
i did it with 1800 elo bot but I can not send the game because links are deleted
Hysterical 😂 The time he saved setting up the board again, he spent extending the game
The sheer disrespect of this maneuver! 🤯
And where do you put this piece? That's right, it goes on the starting square.
Fun to show live with someone- “Just start with your king and play like it matters, trust me it’s cool”
2:41 Look at the time 0:00.9 :O
2:12 it's giving Hikaru
In the past I've looked at how you could get this mate but I always assumed it wasn't possible.
This doesn't seem to require as many moves as you made.
Seems you just push the king to the back tank to the left any way you like. Then, push the king forward as is required to get the king to follow that path to C2 while the queen then returns home.
Can you please add timestamps?
I’ve been able to do the before thanks to Aman. I love the board reset.
Honestly I used to set it up but ofc queen and rook ladder mate in the end
Yay Aman! I didn't know so many people were reviewing this game.
I think this was more than fair to be honest. Yea I guess it could be seen as humiliating at such a high level but he could have also just resigned at any point to avoid that. The other factor to consider is that to pull this off he also gave his opponent a fairly decent chance to play for a draw by flagging him, which he almost did with .9 seconds left on the clock.
Good to see Martin back again. I missed good ol' Martin.
Istg "here" has to be chess players favourite word
Is this not a stalemate by the 50-move king rule?
If I'm following correctly, you're saying the horsey piece moves in an L shape?
That's called cooperative mate.
2:14 bro I’m not hikaru chill
Interesting. There is a better class of positions in standard chess that white can Force Black to checkmate him, not to let that kind of play :)
2:29 clearly 💀
That’s pretty neat. I wouldn’t do it to another person haha, a mortal enemy maybe if I ever have one, but it’s an awesome party trick.
This is an awesome way to mock the Person who won't call a game. And then an even more epic way to lose. If these are the rules it's not a controversy at all. The rules are the rules and nothing should be changed about this game- it's been around FOREVER and you can bet this has happened before, but we've only had the net for a short time relative to how long Chess has been around. Dude with White should have won but his hubris lost him the match- I am rusty now, but 4-5 games against a skilled player will bring my fire back- I was VERY good at chess for a while when I played regularly, I only ever ran into on person who could beat me more than I beat him- he'd win 2/3 and I got a really nice compliment from the guy- dude was really good and was hunting for a challenge- I got to give it to him even though he was better. Man, I should get back into chess, it's such a great game- these Days I'm more addicted to poker though, which I'm quite good at it seems.
This was not done under 32 moves so it was a stalemate
I tried it against Martin. But not in the final position.
And I tried sometimes to get eight bishops and put them on starting position.
I had a chance to do this to an opponent, but felt to bad, so decided against it, and just went with a simple checkmate. I feel like if I had done this anyways, my opponent would of resigned and if he didn't he would of blocked me afterwards (I can't blame him). So I don't know, likely not worth it.
Ben finegold did this a long time ago in a stream
2:24 so simply
awesome you were able to reproduce it.