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I agree with you about the map size, but I love it because it is a ground war without jet packs and all that other crap, and just shooting each other just with guns, WITHOUT MEDALLIONS!... But my biggest issue is that they do not cater to the player that only gets to play 2-3 times a week and just throws into lobbies with streamers and sweats, and not getting a win here and frustrates people and inevitable stop playing. But Fortnite doesn't care.
Haven't watched one of your videos before (at least for a long time). I like this format of video it's very engaging and is great to listen to like a podcast kinda thing, great for me getting ready for school in the morning :)
This is so true I would land lazy lake or sweaty sands expecting about 10 people just to be met by 3 bots and then come 3rd after being railed by the biggest sweat
@@OtakMilans yeah every game I play feels like I'm watching a bush camp dad stream because no one is around until the top 5 then you get dined from across the circle
@@Synnzinopsis Fr me and my friend would play easily get to the top 5 then all the sweats start coming out of the wood work and play like they are gonna get money by doing so.
The difference between Fortnite OG and Chapter 2 Remix, is that we had been wanting the OG map to return for YEARS! Remix was wanted, but not desired to such a degree that OG was.
crazy to think the remix map is more accurate to the original map than OG, last og was missing half the ice biome, the ENTIRE volcano area and a ton of locations like starry suburbs, neo tilted etc.
I hate to probably get myself into an argument here, but partly the reason that the map wasn’t EXACTLY like the OG map was the nature of how we got there in the first place: time travel. Jones’ mission was to alter the timeline, that WOULD alter the subsequent events. Week one was completely OG, Seasons 1-5. Week 2 was season 6, yet for some reason the cube didn’t corrupt the island this time. Because of this, it did not interact with the zero point. Week three was season 7-8 Because the cube didn’t interact with the Zero Point, the Ice King had no guidance of what lands to conquer. Somewhere along the way, the prisoner either escaped, taking with him the monster, or the monster killed them both, leaving destroyed polar peak to wash up on our island. No prisoner, so no volcano. The last week was seasons 9-X. As there was no volcano, there was no destruction of POIs, so no neo-tilted, slipstreams, etc. The cube had just found the zero point, and pulled it out without messing with the vault. It wasn’t that the places didn’t show up because epic didn’t care to do EVERYTHING, they didn’t show up because there was no storyline reason for them to.
Even with that in mind the season og felt better, i mean theres a lot of things to have on count , not only the map, but yeah the season og had a lack of old locations
I think something that most people forget about chapter 2 map was the fact that many empty spaces were filled over time with smaller areas so while the main POIs mostly didn't change there were a lot of smaller areas with tons of Loot around which weren't there in the first 3 to 4 seasons of the chapter
The “you only prefered chapter 1 because you are blinded by nostalgia” group of people have started realizing that argument actually applied to chapter 2 and not chapter 1 the whole time
@ The content is what made OG good. This isn’t going to have that, and it probably won’t have any mobility. This is OG OG. They’re totally doing that season’s lootpool and nothing else.
My problem with remix is that they only picked a "fan favorite" season and proceeded to completely butcher it with the theme. I feel OG did it better last year. OG did so much more to celebrate the past, and remix just feels like more chapter 5 to me: Interesting concept, terrible execution. (Except this time, I feel it's neither). I agree with your take that remix should have focused on the latter half because I feel that was the spirit of Chapter 2. Also, I don't know if they're encrypted, but no more remixed skins is a goddamn letdown. I might be having fun playing still because I like the map, but the decisions made for this feel completely tone deaf.
They just run full speed with the collabs these days. If they can squeeze a collab into it, they will. The only reason they don't with OG is because I think they know the people will revolt.
They are probably scared of trap slots because of how sweaty players are now, ton of people can just get boxed and spike trap killed in one second. They could be innovative and make defensive trap slots or something.
I swear I have never seen a player better then me in game except for ranked. I'm not even good I get plat 2 every season I just don't see how the game is sweaty maybe it's a little too casual tbh
@ you’re a lucky guy, it’s probably your region. I’m being put with sweats and getting top 70 every game. I’m not even that bad but I genuinely can’t compete whatsoever, it ruins the game, it’s just so hard to have fun. Especially with hitscan making hitting shots incredibly easy. I usually play ranked to get away from the sweats😭
@ Ive gotten to elite every season except for this one, ill get to elite next week but im not grinding rank just so i can enjoy the items and whatnot in plat without getting destroyed. So yeah as of now im in plat
It's not even the issue that the map is too large, but the fact that it's so empty. What Remix made me realize is just how much the later seasons of Chapter 2 filled this map out. I am guilty of downplaying this map for the lack of map changes back in the day. But this season just made me realize how wrong I was. Maybe the big central points of interest didn't last after their initial season, but the little landmarks all over the map did, and by the time C2S8 rolled out, the map was pretty filled out. Here are just a few examples: - The C1 landmarks that were added in C2S5 (the Dusty Depot warehouse near the center of the map, a mini version of Flush Factory near Slurpy Swamp, the Greasy Grove restaurant at Logjam Woodworks, etc.) and Stealthy Stronghold - Primal villages & mini spire towers on different parts of the map from C2S6 - IO bases & alien flora infested areas all around the map from C2S7 - Mothership crash sites from C2S8 This may not seem like a lot, but it filled out areas that are empty in Remix. It's definitely why some areas just feel off to me. It's because those areas had a primal village or an IO base or some other landmark instead of literally nothing the last time I was there. C2S2 was fun, but there's no doubt that it had a very boring map, and it's no wonder why people got bored during this period. Heck, the map was even EMPTIER during C2S2 because it didn't have the E.G.O. bases present like in Remix (it was only around in C2S1). I still believe that this C2 revisit should've been a remix of 3-4 popular seasons (C2S2/3 & C2S7/8) instead of just being focused on 1 with little to no elements from anything else.
I just don't like this map. Even with the filler. No biomes. 4 Ch1 locations that were more iconic on the Ch1 map. Too big. Coral Castle for 90% of it's life. The C2S2 POI were good but only lasted a season.
How I would describe it would be OG felt authentic to me for some reason. Remix is kinda like when they take an animated movie that was made 50 years ago and make do a reboot, live action of it. Like you, the concept is the same but it just feels and looks so much different than you remember.
as a competitive player who was in my prime in chapter 2 seasons 1-3 than quit the game this is very nice i’ve really been enjoying getting back into the game and playing the cash cups with my friends now the zones feel a bit smaller than what they used to this could just be me not remembering perfectly however playing last nights trios cash cup was really nostalgic even tho we didnt make it to round 2 we still got top 3,400
3:30 this is so true, every game there is only bots until suddenly a sweat comes and shits on you because you underestimated him and thought he was a bot
i think the lack of 100% spawn rate for chest makes this big map feel so much worse than it should. The lack of utility also hinders the game a lot for zero build players.
@@JorgeGarcia-uh2bg sucks because if I remember correctly the original 3 or 4 seasons of chapter 2 had 100% spawn but epic being backwards got rid of it
I feel one of the reasons is the roadmap leak. OG was a huge surprise, with a good buildup. We knew chapter 2 was coming back for 7 + months. And they probably scared many people away with that atrocious event.
2:53 Bro just explained the problems with this map perfectly tho😭. But I go it worse I had 17 BOT kills and when I fought with a real player I didn’t even fight him, he 250 headshot sniped me
i believe they don’t like trap slots because they don’t want to diversify the skill gap between zero builds and builds. it’s stupid. GIVE ME BACK TRAPS😭
You can definitely tell that epic knew the map was too big and fixed it with chapter 3. I think honestly we just need to let the past go and try to keep moving forward while reusing old concepts for future seasons.
Ch1 got almost everything right. Ch2 heavily regressed on almost everything. Bots. Skill Based. Map was bigger. Rotation was lighter. Shakedown and Flare Guns made everyone die early because no one was rebooting. Ch2 was also when they went HAM on collabs. Please don't associate the failures of Ch2 with any other era of Fortnite. Imo, Ch5 is the worst Chapter ever, followed by Ch2.
@John6-40 most of the ch2 issues are there and even increased from the chapters after it because bots have increased, collabs are coming literally everyday so I don't understand this argument and I just think you personally don't like ch2
@@John6-40 Chapter 2 set a precedent for every chapter after it, to disassociate a whole chapter that epic learned from it's failings with is just dumb. That's also likely why we're down to year long chapters & such. It's still an integral stepping stone in the lead up to the modern era
i honestly dont think they would need any og seasons if they had just gone back to their roots instead of trying to be "innovative" by adding pointless stuff like bullet drop
4:12 FINALLY SOMEONE MENTIONS THIS 😭 I feel like I'm going crazy because everyone is saying they love this Remix season but I want to actually GET INTO FIGHTS If this was what Chapter 2 was like during Season 1-3 you can keep it. I'd take any Chapter 5 season over this because at least in those seasons I actually would engage 10-15 people. I'd be lucky to find 8 in the lobbies I'm in rn, on top of bots, on TOP of when I get into real fights with real people I just get clapped because I wasn't fighting anyone the whole match 😭 it's just not fun for me and the fact that I prefer Reload this season over main BR speaks volumes considering how much I dislike Reload
@ I think that “First” comment is more pointless and no one seems to have a problem with it. For me that comment is the resume of the video, and I think is pretty sad that he has to insist too much in it. Is like that poll he used to stated his point, it is clear that most of your community will agree with your point of view, most people only follow creators aligned with their tastes… That probed nothing… Probably it probed the opposite if only the 53% of your own community agrees with you.
It hurts me so much that I'm not loving this season Why am I not LOVING THIS SEASON Ch2 is my favorite I can't put my finger on it but something feels off
@@Landon-gc2eo they should add a toggle. While there is ranked, some people want to enjoy bot-less lobbies without being killed instantly. We can‘t get better at the game if we are forced into lobbies with pros only.
I remember way back in season X, when it was leaked that Skill Based and AI bots were coming, I said they would ruin Fortnite. The game legit hasn't been the same since. Matches used to feel so organic and wild. One match, you'd run into 3 new players, and the last guy would get stuck in the storm for a free win. The next match, you'd run into sweats and maybe even a big streamer. Nowadays, every match plays the same. Players near your skill. At least 3-4 bots. What's the point of PvE in an online PvP game?
@ yeah, I’ve started playing more rocket league lately. I feel like I can’t win a game either tho, there is so many bots and then there is good players at the end for me.
@@John6-40 Random skill levels of players is what made chapter one so fun! If you were bad at the game you would hide in a bush for your first couple of wins and as you got better you would drop places like tilted.
I feel like remix is just a cash grab more than anything, using the old spy season to attract everyone back to the game. I also feel like since every season has bosses and vaults it doesn’t really feel special anymore because we’ve had these features for so long now. The thing that was special about the spy season was that it was the first time fortnite had done something like this. (not to mention the spy aspect worked so well they brought it back for chapter 4 season 4)
During the OG event we used the Time Machine and the rift rocket to send us back to not only our reality but our timeline too. Also we haven’t traveled back in time with Remix we just traveled to another reality using the rift beacon to make hopes art come to life and send us to this reality where rappers take over instead of Midas, just so it would have no story impact and just be a break from lore and just be fun for 1 month and then juice will lead us to ch 6
As someone who started in chapter 2 I agree, I HATE what they've done to it and I know I probably have a lot of nostalgia for the old game but it used to feel SO different. I think the biggest thing like Klarque has said over and over again is STORY IS IMPORTANT and when it's replaced with ads it just makes the game less enjoyable and I feel like remix is a perfect example of this.
Another thing is that in OG, the map was constantly changing: every week we'd get huge map changes to reflect the different seasons of C1. For C2 Remix, adding one location back every week ain't gonna do much ngl, especially with how huge the map is. I wish they did multiple seasons, season 3 would've been a good one to redo as that would completely change the way the map would've been played. And maybe, when the water went down, we could directly move to season 7/8 as those were also great seasons and then they could've recreated that end event and have a nice transition into C6, perhaps revealing the C6 map instead of C3. They coulda skipped seasons 4 to 6 since we just had a Marvel season and seasons 5 and 6 were not great either. With these map changes, the loot pool also would've changed a lot more. Would've been fun to see the Sharks come back, all the Alien weapons, the UFOs... C2S2 is my favourite season of all time, but even I'll say that this is too much. They're really just trying to capitalize on a season that is perceived to be the best (in C2) by a good chunk of the community and I find that to be a shame and scummy of them. I will never forgive them for what they did to the Shark. And as you said, it didn't feel as special as in OG, even though I've hardly played at all since then. I really hope they don't screw up the OG permanent playlist next month. All that being said, still felt better than every season in C5 combined. I played a bit of all of them and I despised every minute of them all.
I think another problem with remix is that we knew about it for an entire year at this point, everyone who played chapter 2 was hyped about it, people that never played it were hearing all about it So when we got to remix everyone had this idea of what they all wanted out of it, so instead of experiencing memories people forgot for years people are playing a game they've all been hyping up Then they turn around and do a music centric season 2 chapter where the only none character from any season before or after season 2 in the battlepass was 1-ball who didn't really even stick to his seasons theme They shot themselves in the foot by overpromising and over hyping a season where there's plenty of problems Katty corner is in a limbo stat where it exists in the season 1-2 era and season 3 era at the same time and not in a good way
Sometimes, you gotta leave the past behind and look into the future. Some are just blinded by nostalgia and complain if casuals have fun because they can’t box any new player up and Insta kill them. Remix is kinda a reminder to leave the past behind and see into the future as expectations are not met due to balancing and the experience for both zero build and base battle royale players
The main issue for me is it just doesn’t feel rewarding to play Remix. I think this is in part because of Reload giving us access to the same gunplay for months now but I also think chapter 2 as a whole is just not as beloved as people remember it being.
I don’t think getting 10 kills has ever felt so demoralising. Getting 10 kills back in 2018-19 was an amazing feeling, hell getting 3 kills was making, becuse you know they were real. Of the 10 today, 8 of them probably ai and the game tries to fool me into believing they’re real.
it sucks because i was SO excited for chapter 2’s return and then i played a few games, said “i could be playing black ops 6 right now”, and got on bo6
I have just discovered you and can see more character, passion and care within this video than any other I've seen this past few months. SO I BEG OF YOU...please release a video about your Fortnite fan fiction timeline, please. I get you may be hesitant, but that's the type of pure creative energy that cannot be bought or replicated through any formula. I want, no, I NEED to see your ideas, I love hearing people's take on their version of events. ❤❤❤❤ That type of care is so rare and is SO entertaining I'm subbing rn in hope 😊
lol I'm sorry to disappoint but I didn't actually write a 27 page long fan fiction. However, I do have plans to release a Fortnite story at some point. I'll also try to do more of these skits in the future! People seem to like them. Appreciate the kind words.
You said it, map too big, too many bots, die to the first real person you meet because you've spent the past 10 minutes playing loot simulator. Or in my case, I die to them because I had assumed they were another bot, and so began shooting at them while standing in the open only to freak out and panic when they suddenly take evasive actions and shoot back with accuracy.
I think the biggest problem is that it's not a remix. All the new bosses and locations are just re-skins. The Doggpound is just the agency. Spaghetti Grotto is just The Grotto. Ice Isle is just The Shark. There's no new content, and they've plastered ads for these rappers all over the old content.
i think the reason i like it is that its fortnite at its simplest. dont get me wrong, i love a lot about c5s4 and some other season (excluding c4s3 and c5s3) but i think whats fun about fortnite is when its simple, like reload and og season. remix does drag on in between fights but its simplicity is why i keep playing.
i think we all forgot how slow the startup of chapter 2 was considering we came from season x to a comepletely new chapter i feel like its kinda a given. however one thing i will say is something i havent really seen anyone talk about is chapter 4 into -> og. chp4 plays relatively the same as og just more modern + augmentations its kinda like a mix of 4 chapters that come together relatively well aspects from chp1 (og guns og cartoony graphics og art style and og play pattern), (chp2 most of same the stuff in chp1 + a new engine new original poi's and new chaotic weapons themes and ideas), (chp3 first person guns, movement, beautiful color pallet similar cartoony upscaled graphics/physics + and zerobuilds), being combined and then given a sprinkle ontop being chapter 4. chapter 5 into -> chapter 2 remix is two comeplete opposites chapter 5 is everything that og wasnt (also not to mention its the only chapter to comepletely branch off on its own instead of adding onto everything chapter 4 and before did chapter 5 comepletely disregarded all the things that got implemented i think the only thing that stayed was the floating island and like idk gold bars?) chp5 was more tactical more gritty more serious and divided everyone into every category every community and every game mode and just like fish in a river we the players were trying to swim and fight against those strong currents and strong waves being chapter 5. playing the game despite all of this it felt alot more like playing the grand ideas/concepts epic games always wanted to experiment with but never had the oppurtunity to vs a chapter celebrating the reuinion and anniversary of fortnite and its returning players. alot of people are too scared to think about how the people who just started playing in chp5 feel playing all of this nostalgia baiting type of stuff or how returning players feel when they get overwhelmed by things that they feel is just too much or too different. for some its like challenging everything they believe in ive met people who say and think og players ruin the experience of new players because we show our dissinterest towards certain og concepts being remade in too much of a new way that seems almost unrecognizeable to its original predecessor. ive also met people who think new players who have yet to experience fortnite should be gatekept because when fortnite caters "too much" to the new players instead of its loyal fanbase or og community they steer too far away from the original goal post. im not here to say which is better or who's right and who's wrong but i do wanna give clarity to the people who feel out of place or taken for granted. both oppinions and takes are justifiable in their own right and i believe if fortnite tries to please everyone like what happened in chp5 they will end up pleasing no one if they choose to cater towards whichever generation is currently in the spotlight like some other games do i fear for its longevity within the group of people who basically made fortnite what it is today what's most important is the connection between the community and the developers its a give and take one cant survive without the other. (ps. if your reading this clarque please dont delete this unlike alot of people who just comment within an atto second of just seeing a thumbnail and getting heated or people who only believe one way is the right way and every other way is wrong i take extremely long time researching and putting all my effort into making each heartfelt meaningful comment id prefer if you provided constructive criticism or maybe analyzing these takes or views in videos i dont gain any money for it and i wouldnt want to i do it because i enjoy it thats all :)
When they announced chapter 2 coming back I was not as hyped. But as soon as I got my hands on old gunplay I was hooked. Been playing reload though not the chapter 2 map. Hopefully they stick to hitscan gunplay from now on for future chapters
Finally a video that isn’t just recency bias. Don’t get me wrong I loved the idea of going back to chapter 2 but the moment snoop dogg, Eminem, and ice spice made changes it got old quick. I can’t wait for the permanent og mode to be released.
As a Zero Builds player, I feel like the Chapter 1 map was better for ZB than Chapter 2. Chapter 1 was created with building in mind but not to the extent of every other chapter because it wasn’t supposed to be as crazy as it turned out being. In Chapter 2, it was fully made with the high level building techniques in mind, and thus the map feels way too open.
me and my friends have been yelling for literal years now about being absolutely terrified of trap slots and snipers, its exhausting cause these were 2 things that made me love fortnite in chapter 1
I mean honestly when you actually think about it ,if chapter 1 was more like remix it would have been an unsuccessful because it would've been filled with rappers and shi
Bots should be placed more in lobbies with players of a lower skill level . Maybe 70% ai in bad lobbies and 30% in good lobbies, would fix multiple problems at once
No way you voiced the nothing in fracture reshaped, I was wondering what the voice actor would sound like without the voice filter, turns out I already knew
Remix is fun, but I just don’t feel that much excitement after prelude, what ruins it from being great to me is the FPS stutters, reduced shields (despite buffs still kinda hard to find), nerfed Burst AR
I'm an OG. And I truly believe, no... I know for a fact that Chapter 2 season 7 was peak Fortnite. Seasons 7 and 8 were indeed the most astonishing versions of any map in Fortnite's history. By that time, I knew chapter's 2 map was my all time favorite. But this? this is not the real chapter 2. The vibe is just not there. We know it's just a corporate move. This is not legit. They made chapter 2 dirty. Sigh... and the lore. I... I can't defend this. Nobody asked for rappers and Jordans.
I wish I could say I’m enjoying it but there’s such a stutter that really turns me away from it. I’m huge on practicing before playing and all creative maps will not stabilize 😭 I was really looking forward to trying it, but it’s not going well
I also feel like with Ch2 people forget Season 1 (128 days) and Season 2 (118 days) where the longest in the entirety of the games history. Also the that Ch2S2 introduced the worst grind for (albeit optional) super styles that you had to reach lvl 300 to get which wasn't easy back then compared to now. I say all this as someone who's been playing the game since Ch1S2 and have finished every battlepass up to tier 100 since Ch1S3. Lastly I want to say i've been watching your vids since around the beginning of this chapter and like your video style. Keep up the great work!
I'm sorry, but when I first played OG last year, the first day was extremely stressful. But that was on me as I was not prepared for that season. Even then, it was really boring to me. From the map, to being unable to drive in anything except for go karts & 4-wheelers. Even the new item shop looked horrible before they upgraded it. The only saving grace was the Battle Pass & the Eminem skins. But the fact that it's coming back PERMANENTLY is a big problem for me. I don't mind it coming back, but not permanently. However, my first day playing Remix Chapter 2 was pretty good. From the map, to the loot pool, to being able to drive cars & trucks, hell for the majority of my matches, I barely had any bot lobbies. And when going up against real players, I had a blast. I guess I have Reload to thank for that. And as for the theme, as I said before, it makes sense for the rappers to be there considering the title of this season. However, even I can agree that they should've added more seasons to it instead of just being Season 2. Regardless, I still think Remix is far better than OG, but I respect those who think vice versa.
Chapter 2 remix loot pool and map being better? You mean the same map that takes 15 minutes just to find a single bot?? The loot pool that barley changes and half the guns are just basically reskins with slight adjustments? Driving cars and trucks legit take away what made fortnite special it being a fun cartoon game it made it feel unique against other br titles thats a big part of the reason why the game blew up in the first place I guess you arent an og so you are used to seeing a corporate epic games who wants a metaverse and not an actual quality game. "I barley had any bot lobbies" the biggest lie of 2024
I understand you arent an og and you probably have a different interpretation of what fortnite is supposed to be and that makes sense to why you think about og that way it was just something you had to be there to experience it was something special it made fortnite so fun the og map will forever be the reason why fortnite is popular and for good reason it was a masterpiece
@@somefatkid2080 1. Should've piled all that into a full paragraph instead of doing three replies. 2. Who the fuck are you to dictate what I'm use to?! I like what I like & I dislike what I dislike. And I can admire the success of Fortnite OG, despite me not enjoying it much. At the end of the day, I like Remix over OG. And if ya don't like my opinion, that's your problem.
I'm sorry but your reasons for not liking OG seems very biased, and more like really nitpicky complaints. Also from the way you phrased this comment, it doesn't even seem like you actually tried to give OG a chance.
let me run my same jingle, but it’s literally OG movement and sounds in OG it had the original movement with good OG guns, and even though they also weren’t really OG they felt more OG than this shit, they all sound weird, feel weird, the new movement animations make this just feel like a bigger reload map, it’s incredibly boring because there isn’t good new content, and the new/returning content there is, actually sucks or is impossible to find, like cozy campfires, launchpads, bouncers, etc.. i hate to see so many people okay with something that feels like a cheap clone, this is just awful, and it’s more sad no one really understands how it feels to see a game lose it’s magic/integrity
Im so sad that chapter 2 remix has failed compared to fortnite OG because i love chapter 2 more than anything. But the lackluster map changes and these weird collabs that have nothing to do with chapter 2 has basically ruined remix for me
@@ultronic2765 Ok but season OG still did every season pass season 6 pretty poorly. Literally the only Poi's they added was frosty flights (half) polar peak and the meteor which isn't even an named Poi. It still just felt like chapter 1 season 5 but with some extra sprinkles from later seasons added to it
@@primalpeashooteryeah that was pretty disappointing and lackluster but I still stand by my point. Atleast it did 4 seasons and added some map location from them. I am still disappointed how we didn't get the water storm or the authority or the marauders or a part of the map flooded back.
@@ultronic2765 The authority is literally just the agency with walls near it, I don't understand why it needs to return. also, chapter 2 season 3 content isn't even out yet and will probably be introduced next week
Thanks man this video helped me explain to myself why i didn't like most of chapter 2, and back then, most people didn't like it, but now, after about 70% of seasons after chapter 2 being mid people will say its better then chapter 1 💀
Fr tho everything epic does is absolutely amazing compared to other games and people just complain. Though the hate for this season is 100% justified and this is easily the worst and only bad season of Fortnite
I felt the same way but epic can’t even trust there past so they had to get ice spice twerking on the shark. They should’ve just kept it the same this wasn’t what was advertised as well as what we wanted
Remix would be so much better if the collaboration wasn’t hip hop artists that nobody cares about, and instead it was a Halo 2 themed Remix where the last two seasons of Chapter 2 were remixed to be Halo 2 themed as to celebrate the game’s 20th anniversary, changing the alien themed season to focus on the covenant with high charity floating over the island instead of the first order, and the cubed season focusing on the flood instead of the cube queen. For the collaboration skins we could’ve had Halo Infinite’s Master Chief return, but also include The Arbiter and Mark VI Master Chief as either the battle pass secret skins, or as a bundle in the shop. I guarantee you that this would’ve gotten people a lot more hyped for remix, and would’ve kept people playing this game during remix with it being a lot more profitable as a lot more people would buy The Master Chief and The Arbiter instead of Ice Spice, Snoop Dogg, and Eminem.
As a person who started in Chapter 2 Season 2, the way they used one of, if not the most popular season and took what made it amazing and throw it away for artists, it doesn't work with the season they picked.
I'm 61. Decidedly BELOW average player returning to Fortnite after a couple of years. And on a new platform (PS). Reached lvl 50 after 5 days of casual play. That can't be right.
My opinion on this season is why didnt they give the same treatment to remix that OG got? In OG we got multiple seasons put into one month and popular skins such as Omega and Ragnerok combined, this time around its literally just season 2 with the 3 poi’s and the battle pass is lackluster, Like I was hopeful that the 1-ball skin was going the be like the Spectral knight but for whatever reason they didnt give us another customizable skin…it just seemed like Epic couldn’t deliver with Remix
5:11 THANK YOU DUDE. I absolutely HATE the itemized launch pad. i want my trapslot launchpad/bouncer/trap back, not some stupid season X item slot shock trap
chapter 6 is gonna be underrated but my thoughts on ch2 remix it didn't reach my expectation with this season was map changes and that only i was hoping like the fortilla would come back
I love it when they use OG to bring people back just to advertise a shitty metaverse with a iconic event stapled over it, i love when they barely return the whole map and just completely ignore season 8 and 9, I love it when they added the age rating, i love it when they completely lied about the actual OG pump returning
Before I watch the video: People had pandemic nostalgia and forget all the problems that Ch2 had, which were far bigger than Ch1 problems. 1. Shakedowns kill everyone in the beginning, leading to dead mid-game. 2. Map is huge and rotation is light. Bad combo. 3. Longest. Seasons. Ever. 4. Most. Bots. Ever. 5. Everyone hot dropped the 5 mythic POI spots and really just 4 of those spots. That's great for early game action, but after that? Meh. Now I'll watch the video and see what you say. 😂
I loved CH2, but I recognised so many flaws with it when Remix started, like the ones you pointed out. It also made me realise something that CH4 and CH5 did well was having events on the map that happened during the middle to late game of the match. For example the forecast towers, loot island, bunkers, combat caches. Imo something that really kept the pace of the match well was in CH4S2, when we had wildcard spawn in midway through the match. It made people far more cautious and that led to having more populated mid to end games. Obviously the longer seasons from CH2 was not something they could do about cus of Covid.
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This is the Klarque after Dark setup
It’s very engaging, I like it
I thought it was great, glad this style is here to stay.
I agree with you about the map size, but I love it because it is a ground war without jet packs and all that other crap, and just shooting each other just with guns, WITHOUT MEDALLIONS!...
But my biggest issue is that they do not cater to the player that only gets to play 2-3 times a week and just throws into lobbies with streamers and sweats, and not getting a win here and frustrates people and inevitable stop playing. But Fortnite doesn't care.
Haven't watched one of your videos before (at least for a long time). I like this format of video it's very engaging and is great to listen to like a podcast kinda thing, great for me getting ready for school in the morning :)
This is so true I would land lazy lake or sweaty sands expecting about 10 people just to be met by 3 bots and then come 3rd after being railed by the biggest sweat
Exactly I get 2nd or 3rd place every game and every player is a bot before that
the true chapter 2 experience ngl
@@OtakMilans yeah every game I play feels like I'm watching a bush camp dad stream because no one is around until the top 5 then you get dined from across the circle
@@Synnzinopsis now that i think about it
Og chapter 2 was basicly the same lmao
@@Synnzinopsis Fr me and my friend would play easily get to the top 5 then all the sweats start coming out of the wood work and play like they are gonna get money by doing so.
The difference between Fortnite OG and Chapter 2 Remix, is that we had been wanting the OG map to return for YEARS! Remix was wanted, but not desired to such a degree that OG was.
crazy to think the remix map is more accurate to the original map than OG, last og was missing half the ice biome, the ENTIRE volcano area and a ton of locations like starry suburbs, neo tilted etc.
Finally someone with a brain
The OG season was based on the first seasons. All the things you listed happened in the later seasons in chapter 2
@@coreywright2781 Og season was based on s5 s6 s7 s8 s9 and sx
I hate to probably get myself into an argument here, but partly the reason that the map wasn’t EXACTLY like the OG map was the nature of how we got there in the first place: time travel. Jones’ mission was to alter the timeline, that WOULD alter the subsequent events.
Week one was completely OG, Seasons 1-5.
Week 2 was season 6, yet for some reason the cube didn’t corrupt the island this time. Because of this, it did not interact with the zero point.
Week three was season 7-8
Because the cube didn’t interact with the Zero Point, the Ice King had no guidance of what lands to conquer. Somewhere along the way, the prisoner either escaped, taking with him the monster, or the monster killed them both, leaving destroyed polar peak to wash up on our island. No prisoner, so no volcano.
The last week was seasons 9-X. As there was no volcano, there was no destruction of POIs, so no neo-tilted, slipstreams, etc.
The cube had just found the zero point, and pulled it out without messing with the vault.
It wasn’t that the places didn’t show up because epic didn’t care to do EVERYTHING, they didn’t show up because there was no storyline reason for them to.
Even with that in mind the season og felt better, i mean theres a lot of things to have on count , not only the map, but yeah the season og had a lack of old locations
I think something that most people forget about chapter 2 map was the fact that many empty spaces were filled over time with smaller areas so while the main POIs mostly didn't change there were a lot of smaller areas with tons of Loot around which weren't there in the first 3 to 4 seasons of the chapter
The “you only prefered chapter 1 because you are blinded by nostalgia” group of people have started realizing that argument actually applied to chapter 2 and not chapter 1 the whole time
I never see this game ever this close of becoming a musical
lmao
@@gadielmorales2801 lol imagine if it did. Singing about killing.
Dawg it’s three POIs it’s not that bad.
I didn’t agree with you until you pulled out your fan fiction, that was so fire and would have been such a better live event than the prelude event 💀
lmao. Fan fiction for the win!!!
facts they need to just hire klarque for story writing.
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@@Klarque_Clint my pfp is you
@@spideripoh my gosh yes
Good thing OG is coming back next month then. A real Christmas present.
I mean let’s be real though that’s going to have the same problems as this season, worse in fact.
@@wet0wl It's gonna basically be season OG but with season 1, no theming issues but the bot problems are kinda gonna suck probably.
@ The content is what made OG good. This isn’t going to have that, and it probably won’t have any mobility.
This is OG OG. They’re totally doing that season’s lootpool and nothing else.
@@mcblazehunter6888I think for og they should remove bots
So true
My problem with remix is that they only picked a "fan favorite" season and proceeded to completely butcher it with the theme. I feel OG did it better last year.
OG did so much more to celebrate the past, and remix just feels like more chapter 5 to me: Interesting concept, terrible execution. (Except this time, I feel it's neither).
I agree with your take that remix should have focused on the latter half because I feel that was the spirit of Chapter 2.
Also, I don't know if they're encrypted, but no more remixed skins is a goddamn letdown.
I might be having fun playing still because I like the map, but the decisions made for this feel completely tone deaf.
They just run full speed with the collabs these days. If they can squeeze a collab into it, they will.
The only reason they don't with OG is because I think they know the people will revolt.
They are probably scared of trap slots because of how sweaty players are now, ton of people can just get boxed and spike trap killed in one second. They could be innovative and make defensive trap slots or something.
we had it last season
I swear I have never seen a player better then me in game except for ranked. I'm not even good I get plat 2 every season I just don't see how the game is sweaty maybe it's a little too casual tbh
@ you’re a lucky guy, it’s probably your region. I’m being put with sweats and getting top 70 every game. I’m not even that bad but I genuinely can’t compete whatsoever, it ruins the game, it’s just so hard to have fun. Especially with hitscan making hitting shots incredibly easy. I usually play ranked to get away from the sweats😭
@@zimbabweanjesus1369 I'm in Europe and I feel as if that's a good region, not saying its your fault but like what rank are you?
@ Ive gotten to elite every season except for this one, ill get to elite next week but im not grinding rank just so i can enjoy the items and whatnot in plat without getting destroyed. So yeah as of now im in plat
It's not even the issue that the map is too large, but the fact that it's so empty.
What Remix made me realize is just how much the later seasons of Chapter 2 filled this map out. I am guilty of downplaying this map for the lack of map changes back in the day. But this season just made me realize how wrong I was.
Maybe the big central points of interest didn't last after their initial season, but the little landmarks all over the map did, and by the time C2S8 rolled out, the map was pretty filled out.
Here are just a few examples:
- The C1 landmarks that were added in C2S5 (the Dusty Depot warehouse near the center of the map, a mini version of Flush Factory near Slurpy Swamp, the Greasy Grove restaurant at Logjam Woodworks, etc.) and Stealthy Stronghold
- Primal villages & mini spire towers on different parts of the map from C2S6
- IO bases & alien flora infested areas all around the map from C2S7
- Mothership crash sites from C2S8
This may not seem like a lot, but it filled out areas that are empty in Remix. It's definitely why some areas just feel off to me. It's because those areas had a primal village or an IO base or some other landmark instead of literally nothing the last time I was there.
C2S2 was fun, but there's no doubt that it had a very boring map, and it's no wonder why people got bored during this period. Heck, the map was even EMPTIER during C2S2 because it didn't have the E.G.O. bases present like in Remix (it was only around in C2S1).
I still believe that this C2 revisit should've been a remix of 3-4 popular seasons (C2S2/3 & C2S7/8) instead of just being focused on 1 with little to no elements from anything else.
I just don't like this map. Even with the filler. No biomes. 4 Ch1 locations that were more iconic on the Ch1 map. Too big. Coral Castle for 90% of it's life.
The C2S2 POI were good but only lasted a season.
@@John6-40nah I’d say risky was better on the chapter 2 map just for its location
Thank you because I feel the same
something i still dont understand is why was c2s2 so much fun when it first came out but remix isnt really the same
@ because like Klarque said, the lobbies are filled with bots and it’s not the same
How I would describe it would be OG felt authentic to me for some reason. Remix is kinda like when they take an animated movie that was made 50 years ago and make do a reboot, live action of it. Like you, the concept is the same but it just feels and looks so much different than you remember.
as a competitive player who was in my prime in chapter 2 seasons 1-3 than quit the game this is very nice i’ve really been enjoying getting back into the game and playing the cash cups with my friends now the zones feel a bit smaller than what they used to this could just be me not remembering perfectly however playing last nights trios cash cup was really nostalgic even tho we didnt make it to round 2 we still got top 3,400
3:30 this is so true, every game there is only bots until suddenly a sweat comes and shits on you because you underestimated him and thought he was a bot
i think the lack of 100% spawn rate for chest makes this big map feel so much worse than it should. The lack of utility also hinders the game a lot for zero build players.
@@JorgeGarcia-uh2bg sucks because if I remember correctly the original 3 or 4 seasons of chapter 2 had 100% spawn but epic being backwards got rid of it
I feel one of the reasons is the roadmap leak. OG was a huge surprise, with a good buildup. We knew chapter 2 was coming back for 7 + months. And they probably scared many people away with that atrocious event.
Nice voice acting, great background studio. We gotta love where this channel is going.
2:53 Bro just explained the problems with this map perfectly tho😭. But I go it worse I had 17 BOT kills and when I fought with a real player I didn’t even fight him, he 250 headshot sniped me
I grinded the hell out of fortnite og after not playing br seriously since chapter 2 season 2. I dont give 2 sh!ts about this season
i dont think og seasons should be altered. I think i wouldn't mind if we had the artists in chapter 6 instead of chapter 2
i believe they don’t like trap slots because they don’t want to diversify the skill gap between zero builds and builds. it’s stupid. GIVE ME BACK TRAPS😭
You can definitely tell that epic knew the map was too big and fixed it with chapter 3. I think honestly we just need to let the past go and try to keep moving forward while reusing old concepts for future seasons.
This was not a problem in ch2 because the amount of bots were less compared to now
Ch1 got almost everything right. Ch2 heavily regressed on almost everything.
Bots. Skill Based. Map was bigger. Rotation was lighter. Shakedown and Flare Guns made everyone die early because no one was rebooting. Ch2 was also when they went HAM on collabs.
Please don't associate the failures of Ch2 with any other era of Fortnite.
Imo, Ch5 is the worst Chapter ever, followed by Ch2.
@John6-40 most of the ch2 issues are there and even increased from the chapters after it because bots have increased, collabs are coming literally everyday so I don't understand this argument and I just think you personally don't like ch2
@@John6-40 ch2 sucked so bad . Half of the og playerbase left and got replacéd by lockdown newgen
@@John6-40 Chapter 2 set a precedent for every chapter after it, to disassociate a whole chapter that epic learned from it's failings with is just dumb. That's also likely why we're down to year long chapters & such. It's still an integral stepping stone in the lead up to the modern era
i honestly dont think they would need any og seasons if they had just gone back to their roots instead of trying to be "innovative" by adding pointless stuff like bullet drop
4:12 FINALLY SOMEONE MENTIONS THIS 😭 I feel like I'm going crazy because everyone is saying they love this Remix season but I want to actually GET INTO FIGHTS
If this was what Chapter 2 was like during Season 1-3 you can keep it. I'd take any Chapter 5 season over this because at least in those seasons I actually would engage 10-15 people. I'd be lucky to find 8 in the lobbies I'm in rn, on top of bots, on TOP of when I get into real fights with real people I just get clapped because I wasn't fighting anyone the whole match 😭 it's just not fun for me and the fact that I prefer Reload this season over main BR speaks volumes considering how much I dislike Reload
Yeah, just give me chapter 1 already
“I’m happy that some people enjoy it, but I am going to rant anyway” 😂
is there a problem with that? This comment is literally pointless. Anyone can enjoy something, doesn't mean others can't rant about it
@ I think that “First” comment is more pointless and no one seems to have a problem with it. For me that comment is the resume of the video, and I think is pretty sad that he has to insist too much in it. Is like that poll he used to stated his point, it is clear that most of your community will agree with your point of view, most people only follow creators aligned with their tastes… That probed nothing… Probably it probed the opposite if only the 53% of your own community agrees with you.
It hurts me so much that I'm not loving this season
Why am I not
LOVING THIS SEASON
Ch2 is my favorite
I can't put my finger on it but something feels off
Epic please remove bots. We don’t need 90 bots in a game with 10 real players. My games feel so empty and boring
@@Landon-gc2eo they should add a toggle. While there is ranked, some people want to enjoy bot-less lobbies without being killed instantly. We can‘t get better at the game if we are forced into lobbies with pros only.
I remember way back in season X, when it was leaked that Skill Based and AI bots were coming, I said they would ruin Fortnite.
The game legit hasn't been the same since. Matches used to feel so organic and wild. One match, you'd run into 3 new players, and the last guy would get stuck in the storm for a free win.
The next match, you'd run into sweats and maybe even a big streamer.
Nowadays, every match plays the same. Players near your skill. At least 3-4 bots.
What's the point of PvE in an online PvP game?
I just move on to other games cuz every game feels stale and not fun to play
@ yeah, I’ve started playing more rocket league lately. I feel like I can’t win a game either tho, there is so many bots and then there is good players at the end for me.
@@John6-40 Random skill levels of players is what made chapter one so fun! If you were bad at the game you would hide in a bush for your first couple of wins and as you got better you would drop places like tilted.
8:06 big facts man. they had so much more to pull from that would have enhanced this season tenfold
I feel like remix is just a cash grab more than anything, using the old spy season to attract everyone back to the game. I also feel like since every season has bosses and vaults it doesn’t really feel special anymore because we’ve had these features for so long now. The thing that was special about the spy season was that it was the first time fortnite had done something like this. (not to mention the spy aspect worked so well they brought it back for chapter 4 season 4)
During the OG event we used the Time Machine and the rift rocket to send us back to not only our reality but our timeline too. Also we haven’t traveled back in time with Remix we just traveled to another reality using the rift beacon to make hopes art come to life and send us to this reality where rappers take over instead of Midas, just so it would have no story impact and just be a break from lore and just be fun for 1 month and then juice will lead us to ch 6
As someone who started in chapter 2 I agree, I HATE what they've done to it and I know I probably have a lot of nostalgia for the old game but it used to feel SO different. I think the biggest thing like Klarque has said over and over again is STORY IS IMPORTANT and when it's replaced with ads it just makes the game less enjoyable and I feel like remix is a perfect example of this.
Another thing is that in OG, the map was constantly changing: every week we'd get huge map changes to reflect the different seasons of C1. For C2 Remix, adding one location back every week ain't gonna do much ngl, especially with how huge the map is. I wish they did multiple seasons, season 3 would've been a good one to redo as that would completely change the way the map would've been played. And maybe, when the water went down, we could directly move to season 7/8 as those were also great seasons and then they could've recreated that end event and have a nice transition into C6, perhaps revealing the C6 map instead of C3. They coulda skipped seasons 4 to 6 since we just had a Marvel season and seasons 5 and 6 were not great either. With these map changes, the loot pool also would've changed a lot more. Would've been fun to see the Sharks come back, all the Alien weapons, the UFOs...
C2S2 is my favourite season of all time, but even I'll say that this is too much. They're really just trying to capitalize on a season that is perceived to be the best (in C2) by a good chunk of the community and I find that to be a shame and scummy of them. I will never forgive them for what they did to the Shark.
And as you said, it didn't feel as special as in OG, even though I've hardly played at all since then. I really hope they don't screw up the OG permanent playlist next month.
All that being said, still felt better than every season in C5 combined. I played a bit of all of them and I despised every minute of them all.
I think another problem with remix is that we knew about it for an entire year at this point, everyone who played chapter 2 was hyped about it, people that never played it were hearing all about it
So when we got to remix everyone had this idea of what they all wanted out of it, so instead of experiencing memories people forgot for years people are playing a game they've all been hyping up
Then they turn around and do a music centric season 2 chapter where the only none character from any season before or after season 2 in the battlepass was 1-ball who didn't really even stick to his seasons theme
They shot themselves in the foot by overpromising and over hyping a season where there's plenty of problems
Katty corner is in a limbo stat where it exists in the season 1-2 era and season 3 era at the same time and not in a good way
Bro, that fan made dialogue gave me literal chills lol
@@Plus2Minus4 I literally made it on the fly 😂
Sometimes, you gotta leave the past behind and look into the future. Some are just blinded by nostalgia and complain if casuals have fun because they can’t box any new player up and Insta kill them. Remix is kinda a reminder to leave the past behind and see into the future as expectations are not met due to balancing and the experience for both zero build and base battle royale players
I'm one of the few people having more fun with fortnite than I have ever had compared to any other season, and I have been playing since 2019.
i luv ranked this season. it feels just like tournaments
The main issue for me is it just doesn’t feel rewarding to play Remix. I think this is in part because of Reload giving us access to the same gunplay for months now but I also think chapter 2 as a whole is just not as beloved as people remember it being.
I don’t think getting 10 kills has ever felt so demoralising. Getting 10 kills back in 2018-19 was an amazing feeling, hell getting 3 kills was making, becuse you know they were real. Of the 10 today, 8 of them probably ai and the game tries to fool me into believing they’re real.
Yea agreed I got 19 kills the other day and felt nothing 😢
If Remix had every season of Chapter 2 like Fortnite OG did, this season would be 100x better than Fortnite OG, but nah.
it sucks because i was SO excited for chapter 2’s return and then i played a few games, said “i could be playing black ops 6 right now”, and got on bo6
I have just discovered you and can see more character, passion and care within this video than any other I've seen this past few months.
SO I BEG OF YOU...please release a video about your Fortnite fan fiction timeline, please. I get you may be hesitant, but that's the type of pure creative energy that cannot be bought or replicated through any formula. I want, no, I NEED to see your ideas, I love hearing people's take on their version of events. ❤❤❤❤
That type of care is so rare and is SO entertaining I'm subbing rn in hope 😊
lol I'm sorry to disappoint but I didn't actually write a 27 page long fan fiction. However, I do have plans to release a Fortnite story at some point. I'll also try to do more of these skits in the future! People seem to like them. Appreciate the kind words.
@@Klarque_Clint Loool not my autistic ass taking you for serious, but looking forward to whatever the next video is about ❣️💫
You said it, map too big, too many bots, die to the first real person you meet because you've spent the past 10 minutes playing loot simulator. Or in my case, I die to them because I had assumed they were another bot, and so began shooting at them while standing in the open only to freak out and panic when they suddenly take evasive actions and shoot back with accuracy.
I think the biggest problem is that it's not a remix. All the new bosses and locations are just re-skins. The Doggpound is just the agency. Spaghetti Grotto is just The Grotto. Ice Isle is just The Shark. There's no new content, and they've plastered ads for these rappers all over the old content.
i think the reason i like it is that its fortnite at its simplest. dont get me wrong, i love a lot about c5s4 and some other season (excluding c4s3 and c5s3) but i think whats fun about fortnite is when its simple, like reload and og season. remix does drag on in between fights but its simplicity is why i keep playing.
i think we all forgot how slow the startup of chapter 2 was considering we came from season x to a comepletely new chapter i feel like its kinda a given.
however one thing i will say is something i havent really seen anyone talk about is chapter 4 into -> og.
chp4 plays relatively the same as og just more modern + augmentations its kinda like a mix of 4 chapters that come together relatively well aspects from chp1 (og guns og cartoony graphics og art style and og play pattern), (chp2 most of same the stuff in chp1 + a new engine new original poi's and new chaotic weapons themes and ideas), (chp3 first person guns, movement, beautiful color pallet similar cartoony upscaled graphics/physics + and zerobuilds), being combined and then given a sprinkle ontop being chapter 4.
chapter 5 into -> chapter 2 remix is two comeplete opposites chapter 5 is everything that og wasnt (also not to mention its the only chapter to comepletely branch off on its own instead of adding onto everything chapter 4 and before did chapter 5 comepletely disregarded all the things that got implemented i think the only thing that stayed was the floating island and like idk gold bars?) chp5 was more tactical more gritty more serious and divided everyone into every category every community and every game mode and just like fish in a river we the players were trying to swim and fight against those strong currents and strong waves being chapter 5. playing the game despite all of this it felt alot more like playing the grand ideas/concepts epic games always wanted to experiment with but never had the oppurtunity to vs a chapter celebrating the reuinion and anniversary of fortnite and its returning players.
alot of people are too scared to think about how the people who just started playing in chp5 feel playing all of this nostalgia baiting type of stuff or how returning players feel when they get overwhelmed by things that they feel is just too much or too different.
for some its like challenging everything they believe in ive met people who say and think og players ruin the experience of new players because we show our dissinterest towards certain og concepts being remade in too much of a new way that seems almost unrecognizeable to its original predecessor.
ive also met people who think new players who have yet to experience fortnite should be gatekept because when fortnite caters "too much" to the new players instead of its loyal fanbase or og community they steer too far away from the original goal post.
im not here to say which is better or who's right and who's wrong but i do wanna give clarity to the people who feel out of place or taken for granted.
both oppinions and takes are justifiable in their own right and i believe if fortnite tries to please everyone like what happened in chp5 they will end up pleasing no one if they choose to cater towards whichever generation is currently in the spotlight like some other games do i fear for its longevity within the group of people who basically made fortnite what it is today what's most important is the connection between the community and the developers its a give and take one cant survive without the other.
(ps. if your reading this clarque please dont delete this unlike alot of people who just comment within an atto second of just seeing a thumbnail and getting heated or people who only believe one way is the right way and every other way is wrong i take extremely long time researching and putting all my effort into making each heartfelt meaningful comment id prefer if you provided constructive criticism or maybe analyzing these takes or views in videos i dont gain any money for it and i wouldnt want to i do it because i enjoy it thats all :)
Idk what you did differently this video but its an absolute banger i loved it
When they announced chapter 2 coming back I was not as hyped. But as soon as I got my hands on old gunplay I was hooked. Been playing reload though not the chapter 2 map. Hopefully they stick to hitscan gunplay from now on for future chapters
is there a possibility of adding both weapons? hitscan and bullet drop im more used to using bullet drop snipers but not hitscan snipers
@ snipers are always bullet drop in Fortnite.
Finally a video that isn’t just recency bias. Don’t get me wrong I loved the idea of going back to chapter 2 but the moment snoop dogg, Eminem, and ice spice made changes it got old quick. I can’t wait for the permanent og mode to be released.
As a Zero Builds player, I feel like the Chapter 1 map was better for ZB than Chapter 2.
Chapter 1 was created with building in mind but not to the extent of every other chapter because it wasn’t supposed to be as crazy as it turned out being.
In Chapter 2, it was fully made with the high level building techniques in mind, and thus the map feels way too open.
Yeah, chapter 2 map in general is just ass which is why i never liked it, people didnt like it back when it came out either
Ngl as someone that likes chapter 2, I did feel disappointed that they put collabs on the map
me and my friends have been yelling for literal years now about being absolutely terrified of trap slots and snipers, its exhausting cause these were 2 things that made me love fortnite in chapter 1
I agree, we needed some of the later seasons in chapter 2. That's where things were at their best in terms of originality.
The original map was original. Lol
@@relaxationmeditation499 True, not saying they were bad but still but most of the locations were similar and just normal houses.
Traps can’t be monetized, simple enough
I agree that this season is bad but me and my freinds started in ch2 and I have nostaligia for it so I love it.
I mean honestly when you actually think about it ,if chapter 1 was more like remix it would have been an unsuccessful because it would've been filled with rappers and shi
Bots should be placed more in lobbies with players of a lower skill level . Maybe 70% ai in bad lobbies and 30% in good lobbies, would fix multiple problems at once
i'm loving the editing and humour of this video lmao
No way you voiced the nothing in fracture reshaped, I was wondering what the voice actor would sound like without the voice filter, turns out I already knew
Remix is fun, but I just don’t feel that much excitement after prelude, what ruins it from being great to me is the FPS stutters, reduced shields (despite buffs still kinda hard to find), nerfed Burst AR
13:06 peak voice acting 👍🏽🗿
11:06 HOLY CRAP I CALLED I WAS CALLED CRAZY AND WRONG AND I CALLED IT SOMEONE FINALLY SEES MY VISION NO WAY 🔥🔥🔥🔥
I'm an OG. And I truly believe, no... I know for a fact that Chapter 2 season 7 was peak Fortnite. Seasons 7 and 8 were indeed the most astonishing versions of any map in Fortnite's history.
By that time, I knew chapter's 2 map was my all time favorite.
But this? this is not the real chapter 2. The vibe is just not there. We know it's just a corporate move.
This is not legit. They made chapter 2 dirty.
Sigh... and the lore.
I... I can't defend this. Nobody asked for rappers and Jordans.
Exactly!!!
I respect your opinion but personally chapter 2 seasons 7 and 8 were my 2 least favorite seasons by a landslide before remix came out
Wasn't meant to be story related and meant for to have fun
The lore doesn’t exist dawg. It’s barely ever actually been a thing. Js teases and glimpses of a greater story that clearly they were not telling.
@@00pium_kingvampstan It used to be a thing until it dragged on beyond repair like cod zombies
I wish I could say I’m enjoying it but there’s such a stutter that really turns me away from it.
I’m huge on practicing before playing and all creative maps will not stabilize 😭
I was really looking forward to trying it, but it’s not going well
i look back and miss c2s5 christmas, flip reset music pack disappearing, sing along emote becoming free, planes, map in snow and the seasons after
They should have kept OG 2 original, and kept all rappers out of it, if they wanted bring rappers in, than bring it in later...
I also feel like with Ch2 people forget Season 1 (128 days) and Season 2 (118 days) where the longest in the entirety of the games history. Also the that Ch2S2 introduced the worst grind for (albeit optional) super styles that you had to reach lvl 300 to get which wasn't easy back then compared to now. I say all this as someone who's been playing the game since Ch1S2 and have finished every battlepass up to tier 100 since Ch1S3. Lastly I want to say i've been watching your vids since around the beginning of this chapter and like your video style. Keep up the great work!
bro i couldve sworn it was 258 with how long it felt lmfao
I'm sorry, but when I first played OG last year, the first day was extremely stressful. But that was on me as I was not prepared for that season. Even then, it was really boring to me. From the map, to being unable to drive in anything except for go karts & 4-wheelers. Even the new item shop looked horrible before they upgraded it. The only saving grace was the Battle Pass & the Eminem skins. But the fact that it's coming back PERMANENTLY is a big problem for me. I don't mind it coming back, but not permanently.
However, my first day playing Remix Chapter 2 was pretty good. From the map, to the loot pool, to being able to drive cars & trucks, hell for the majority of my matches, I barely had any bot lobbies. And when going up against real players, I had a blast. I guess I have Reload to thank for that. And as for the theme, as I said before, it makes sense for the rappers to be there considering the title of this season. However, even I can agree that they should've added more seasons to it instead of just being Season 2. Regardless, I still think Remix is far better than OG, but I respect those who think vice versa.
I want to respect your opinion but my god is that a horrible opinion
Chapter 2 remix loot pool and map being better? You mean the same map that takes 15 minutes just to find a single bot?? The loot pool that barley changes and half the guns are just basically reskins with slight adjustments? Driving cars and trucks legit take away what made fortnite special it being a fun cartoon game it made it feel unique against other br titles thats a big part of the reason why the game blew up in the first place I guess you arent an og so you are used to seeing a corporate epic games who wants a metaverse and not an actual quality game. "I barley had any bot lobbies" the biggest lie of 2024
I understand you arent an og and you probably have a different interpretation of what fortnite is supposed to be and that makes sense to why you think about og that way it was just something you had to be there to experience it was something special it made fortnite so fun the og map will forever be the reason why fortnite is popular and for good reason it was a masterpiece
@@somefatkid2080 1. Should've piled all that into a full paragraph instead of doing three replies.
2. Who the fuck are you to dictate what I'm use to?! I like what I like & I dislike what I dislike. And I can admire the success of Fortnite OG, despite me not enjoying it much. At the end of the day, I like Remix over OG. And if ya don't like my opinion, that's your problem.
I'm sorry but your reasons for not liking OG seems very biased, and more like really nitpicky complaints.
Also from the way you phrased this comment, it doesn't even seem like you actually tried to give OG a chance.
I loved Ch2 S3 and I’m loving remix but it’s so annoying there’s only ch2 S2 like I want the other seasons 😊😊
let me run my same jingle, but it’s literally OG movement and sounds
in OG it had the original movement with good OG guns, and even though they also weren’t really OG they felt more OG than this shit, they all sound weird, feel weird, the new movement animations make this just feel like a bigger reload map, it’s incredibly boring because there isn’t good new content, and the new/returning content there is, actually sucks or is impossible to find, like cozy campfires, launchpads, bouncers, etc.. i hate to see so many people okay with something that feels like a cheap clone, this is just awful, and it’s more sad no one really understands how it feels to see a game lose it’s magic/integrity
I wish The Seven were here. 😞
Im so sad that chapter 2 remix has failed compared to fortnite OG because i love chapter 2 more than anything. But the lackluster map changes and these weird collabs that have nothing to do with chapter 2 has basically ruined remix for me
I don't really understand how you can say that when season OG half assed every chapter 1 season pass season 6. At least Remix keeps most of the Poi's
@@primalpeashooterremix only did one season. That alone kills its motion compared to OG.
@@ultronic2765 Ok but season OG still did every season pass season 6 pretty poorly. Literally the only Poi's they added was frosty flights (half) polar peak and the meteor which isn't even an named Poi. It still just felt like chapter 1 season 5 but with some extra sprinkles from later seasons added to it
@@primalpeashooteryeah that was pretty disappointing and lackluster but I still stand by my point. Atleast it did 4 seasons and added some map location from them. I am still disappointed how we didn't get the water storm or the authority or the marauders or a part of the map flooded back.
@@ultronic2765 The authority is literally just the agency with walls near it, I don't understand why it needs to return. also, chapter 2 season 3 content isn't even out yet and will probably be introduced next week
Thanks man this video helped me explain to myself why i didn't like most of chapter 2, and back then, most people didn't like it, but now, after about 70% of seasons after chapter 2 being mid people will say its better then chapter 1 💀
That summary of C2R is accurate, way too accurate
Trap slot items are kind of clunky to use, especially when a lot of players haven’t experienced using them
Bro, this community is never gonna be happy. Whenever Epic does something for the game, everyone starts complaining.
Fr tho everything epic does is absolutely amazing compared to other games and people just complain. Though the hate for this season is 100% justified and this is easily the worst and only bad season of Fortnite
So are we supposed to be happy about eh shit epic games do? Not a chance.
@@ancientslav4863 You should uninstall the game
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I felt the same way but epic can’t even trust there past so they had to get ice spice twerking on the shark. They should’ve just kept it the same this wasn’t what was advertised as well as what we wanted
Love the new editing style.
12:10 I don't know why but instead of mephisto I imagined a rogue Triarch Nox speaking to Jonesy
Remix would be so much better if the collaboration wasn’t hip hop artists that nobody cares about, and instead it was a Halo 2 themed Remix where the last two seasons of Chapter 2 were remixed to be Halo 2 themed as to celebrate the game’s 20th anniversary, changing the alien themed season to focus on the covenant with high charity floating over the island instead of the first order, and the cubed season focusing on the flood instead of the cube queen. For the collaboration skins we could’ve had Halo Infinite’s Master Chief return, but also include The Arbiter and Mark VI Master Chief as either the battle pass secret skins, or as a bundle in the shop. I guarantee you that this would’ve gotten people a lot more hyped for remix, and would’ve kept people playing this game during remix with it being a lot more profitable as a lot more people would buy The Master Chief and The Arbiter instead of Ice Spice, Snoop Dogg, and Eminem.
I've played every chapter and chapter 2 was my favourite by far.
This season is not fun and neither is it nostalgic and I much preferred chapter 1 OG
02:20, BROTHER, BACK UP!!
BACK UP!!
BACK UP!!!!!!!!
Glad I'm not the only uncomfortable one😂
POLICE!!!
12:11 Why did he write a Goku Black monolog? 💀 Excellently written though
OG mode sounds so good and i want to enjoy it but i already know the sbmm and bots are gonna make it so unenjoyable
Imo remix>>>>>>og respect yo opinion klarque
Season 8 is so underrated
Fortnite remixed chapter 2 season 2 perfectly in chapter 4 season 4. Maybe they should've remixed season 3?
Also fanfic for the win!
How you feel now about remix is how I feel since Ch4 till now.
As a person who started in Chapter 2 Season 2, the way they used one of, if not the most popular season and took what made it amazing and throw it away for artists, it doesn't work with the season they picked.
metaverse cash first, players second
I'm 61. Decidedly BELOW average player returning to Fortnite after a couple of years. And on a new platform (PS). Reached lvl 50 after 5 days of casual play. That can't be right.
My opinion on this season is why didnt they give the same treatment to remix that OG got?
In OG we got multiple seasons put into one month and popular skins such as Omega and Ragnerok combined, this time around its literally just season 2 with the 3 poi’s and the battle pass is lackluster, Like I was hopeful that the 1-ball skin was going the be like the Spectral knight but for whatever reason they didnt give us another customizable skin…it just seemed like Epic couldn’t deliver with Remix
5:11 THANK YOU DUDE. I absolutely HATE the itemized launch pad. i want my trapslot launchpad/bouncer/trap back, not some stupid season X item slot shock trap
chapter 6 is gonna be underrated but my thoughts on ch2 remix it didn't reach my expectation with this season was map changes and that only i was hoping like the fortilla would come back
editing style on point 🌎🌏🌍
I love it when they use OG to bring people back just to advertise a shitty metaverse with a iconic event stapled over it, i love when they barely return the whole map and just completely ignore season 8 and 9, I love it when they added the age rating, i love it when they completely lied about the actual OG pump returning
This season is peak! It’s so fun. Sure it’s not the same, but it’s great that Fortnite is fun again
Ch2 s4 was whole collab based season based off unoriginal ideas and it is known as one of the best season
12:16 You cooked with the story I would have loved that!
Before I watch the video: People had pandemic nostalgia and forget all the problems that Ch2 had, which were far bigger than Ch1 problems.
1. Shakedowns kill everyone in the beginning, leading to dead mid-game.
2. Map is huge and rotation is light. Bad combo.
3. Longest. Seasons. Ever.
4. Most. Bots. Ever.
5. Everyone hot dropped the 5 mythic POI spots and really just 4 of those spots. That's great for early game action, but after that? Meh.
Now I'll watch the video and see what you say. 😂
I loved CH2, but I recognised so many flaws with it when Remix started, like the ones you pointed out. It also made me realise something that CH4 and CH5 did well was having events on the map that happened during the middle to late game of the match. For example the forecast towers, loot island, bunkers, combat caches. Imo something that really kept the pace of the match well was in CH4S2, when we had wildcard spawn in midway through the match. It made people far more cautious and that led to having more populated mid to end games. Obviously the longer seasons from CH2 was not something they could do about cus of Covid.
Yes I totally wanna drop either heals or a sniper for one single launch pad cause god knows I’m not finding two