SCOTT PILGRIM TAKES OFF (2023) Netflix Series Honest Review
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🍿 SCOTT PILGRIM TAKES OFF (2023)
🎬 In this brand new animated adaptation of Bryan Lee O'Malley's beloved graphic novel series, Scott Pilgrim tries to catch the eye of Ramona Flowers once again! With an all-star cast returning as their characters from Scott Pilgrim vs. The World (including Michael Cera, Mary Elizabeth Winstead, Chris Evans, Brie Larson, Anna Kendrick & Kieran Culkin), what does Connor make of the show?!
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What did you think of SCOTT PILGRIM TAKES OFF? Share your Honest Review with us below! - Connor
The good ol’ Netflix bait n switch. Just like He-man and castlevania nocturne and any other Netflix show. Put a chic in it, make it gay n lame. They knew the audience wouldn’t watch it if it was called Ramona Flowers takes on the world. Hollywood activist tricking audiences again….
I enjoyed how they told a new story using the familiar setting and characters, kind of wish they’d do that more with other adaptations.
Woke Feminism Bait and Switch! I may have had respect if it was called “Ramona Flowers: Nightmare of the Exes”
It was bad.
Loved it
I do wish Scott do appear earlier.. but it was nice to see developments on evil Exes too. Some of them were victims of Romana like she dated the Twins at the same time and scoff of Roxanne feelings. Overall it does question about her own current relationship with Scott in the future. How she always leaves when things go south and not face them. In the future, we don’t know why they are separated, but it’s obvious she waited for Scott to return but instead of facing him to solve their issue, she went back in time to help YoungNeil write his screenplay. Future Romana was hoping that her Scott would realize on his own that she loves him, but she wants Scott to figure it out on his own. The series does well with Romana as she realizes she can’t just leave when things go tough and work on herself more to help Scott and their love will grow stronger.
I really enjoyed seeing how Scott had to work to be with Ramona, and now she has to put in the work too.
Their relationship can now be even stronger after seeing and understanding how much they each worked to be with one another.
Relationships are never simple or easy, but it really really helps when you’re both as committed as you can be.
That’s kinda part of my internal conflict with the show. Like imo… that was already done in the books but better, but people who only watched the movie and show wouldn’t know that.
The whole plot of the books was both Scott and Ramona realizing how crappy and flawed they were and growing through it. Scott as the main character of course went through more personal trials as he discovered himself, but Ramona’s flaws were relevant too- she straight up ran away from the relationship at the first sign of trouble like it was mentioned in the show. But in the final volume she finally CHOSE to came back for the first time in her life, and actually willingly fought alongside Scott to get rid of Gideon. And the ending of the series was them realizing that they both needed to put more effort into their relationship, and deciding to work through their problems together, choosing to stay loyal to this relationship no matter the troubles they will go through in the future.
For me the show is a middle ground. For those wanting more nuance and only watched the movie, the show is great at showing the nuance that the characters in the books have. But if you want even more development and character growth from these characters, the comics are still the best source.
Personally, I think the sole thing the show is meant to do is just give more screentime to the characters that weren’t given attention in the comic. The exes + Ramona getting closure, Young Neil, Knives getting that music element to her, Julie, etc. And they did it in a creative and fun way, an alternate timeline! But if you want more from Envy/Stephen/Kim/Scott/Ramona etc it’s still great to read the comic- and my main issue was that the show doesn’t really give the feeling that you need to read the comic, it acts like a concluding sequel to those not aware of the comic.
But in this Anime Ramona wasn't even going steady with Scott when he disappeared. This whole grand search for Scott felt kind of weird there was nothing really attaching Ramona to Scott except one kiss, and nobody else really even gave a shit about Scott after his funeral.
+ In the comics both Scott and Ramona have their own hurdles to overcome. The comic isn't just Scott working towards Ramona.
@@flerken4233Completely agree.
@@flerken4233 yeah can’t argue with that. As usual the comic is still probably the best form of the story.
I think old scott learing to let go of the past is a great way of him getting character development wihout being there through most of it
I think the first season is meant to reintroduce the character and shows them in different scenario as well as making sure you understand everyone in a different level and the next season will be more about Scott developing and being a better dude
if there is a next season
@@kaos-qc5ho It's not If but when the next season gets a green lit. If the rating of the show is good in someway. 😑
Damn I hope there are more seasons. I freaking love the concept of telling new stories with these characters.
Given the big names, I don't think it's a given that there will be a season 2 even if Netflix decides they want it
I hope they bring Lisa along to aid him in being a better person like the comics
I find it kinda funny, how people were frustrated about Ramona not helping Scott to deal with her past (She wasn't there during fight with Lucas and brothers, and wasn't making any moves vs Todd and Matthew), when dude got whole package of messed up stuff as well, in original series, and now they see it as a problem, that she has to deal with it. I liked the story series tried to say, with Ramona finally, after 17 years, getting proper development. Most of the 2nd plan was just Hilarious. I never thought I would like interactions between Knives and Steven Steels, or that one ep 6 moment with Lucas and Gideon. It's not story about Scott anymore, but rather about the world of Scott Pilgrim. Some might hate it, but not me personally
I feel most people are missing the mark with in their reviews when they talk about Scott missing. Everyone is able to talk things out and become a better person for it. Reinforcing that Scott isn't that great of a guy. But instead of fighting his way through his issues (which he tries at the end of the show) he catches up to speed with everyone else who matures.
While the book/film is about 2 people maturing, the show is about 9 people maturing.
Ramona had development? How? When?
She has no regrets with her exes past Roxie. And her future self is still a delivery girl.
The only character with development in this season of the show was Knives.
Wallace is just sleeping around till he finds his sugar daddy.
Todd is having a sexual identity crisis.
Lucas is just a loser now.
The Twins… were there.
Matthew Patel got a W but that’s it.
And Kim and Stephen are just in a band still but with Knives now.
I suppose the surprise was Julie and Gideon being together. But this all felt like multiverse filler with actors who can act but can’t voice act. Ramona, Scott, and Young Neil were so deadpan.
Glad you enjoyed it but what episode did Ramona get development past Roxie? Where was the introspection, self reflection, growth,… something that progresses her character past being a Columbo fan girl asking “smart questions”?
@@revilo1st I mean, the whole point of the comic is that Scott isn't a good person. He fights because he's quite literally ambushed, but each fight brings forth a ton of development. The entire point is that no one has a healthy coping mechanism. You expect me to believe that suddenly 9 troubled people got all their issues solved? It was plain character assassination.
@@lukeamparo6586 Well, remind me wht she was doing at original comics? Being MacGuffin that Scott needs to get, fighting 7 exes in process? The only times she did something was when she fought Roxxy for most of the tom 4 (Just because Scott had at least some morals to not beat girl) and helping him against Gideon. And now, she tries to solute her own mistakes. She actually gets to talk with Lucas and even helps him in escape, when in comics she wasn't there for fight with him. Unlike comics Ramona, she's not running from problems caused by her, she's not betraying Scott once he "died" (Something she already did with Lucas, Roxxy and brothers) but fights to bring him back. If that's not character development, I don't know what is. Sure, Brothers kinda here, and she hasn't got anything to say for Matthew, Gideon and Todd, but the fact she was able to solve her own problems herself, and give exes better ending than in og series (They kinda died there, even if not entirely, what was shown in ep 7) is archivement.
Ramona's character was about running from her past and it catching up with her anyways. It makes sense she wouldn't face her exes, and the people mad about it seem they don't get the story.
Although, I disagree with the take he never had development. In the comics, she left Scott, but then came back and both defeated Gideon. She faced her past, and removed the power Gideon had over her, and ended with her trying to start holding on to things (Scott in this case).
I like the series, but she had almost the same development that she had on the comics, costing most of Scott's development.
I think Scott needed to be away from the story for as long as he was because fundamentally the theme of the show is different from the original book / movie story the theme of the show is about how avoiding and/or dwelling on the past affects both the present and future where is Scott's story in the original source material is more about how his approach to relationships hurt the people around him in the present and past
That is a great story, for a sequel
But most people just wanted the actual story because a lot of people don’t read comics so that story is not as well known
I don’t read comics because I don’t care enough so I wanted to know the story, now I get a rebuild of EVA without the original EVA for context
@JohnemonSilver Hmm yah, good point, I hadn't thought of it that way.
@@NoRegs30that's the thing. Most people watched the movie and the show referenced the movie more which makes sense since it brought back the original actors. Also, the book series is DENSE. It would take seasons to cover everything.
@@naheemquattlebaum2267 absolutely it would be like a season per every 2 evil ex's
@@NoRegs30 the books are really dense and i don't think the author wants to rewrite the same story a 4th time i would really recommend reading them they intended the show to be more of a sequel as they stated that they were looking to expand past the original work
I have very mixed feelings about this series. Due in no small part to my expectations being betrayed. Frankly, I was really looking forward to a faithful adaptation of the comic books. The movie had to strip the original story down its most basic premise to fit the runtime, a series would have had the breathing room for all of the events, characters, and character development from the books. Maybe even expand upon them. Turning it into a Ramona centric murder mystery didn't really pay off for me. Mostly because the murder mystery aspect was not well thought out and served more as a vehicle to compel Ramona to interact with her ex's. It didn't help that no one really cared that Scott was dead, not even his close friends and family.
Wasn’t that’s Envy fault that she went to Scott’s funeral and made it about her ? Like it did lighten the funeral too much that everybody forgot Scott is dead. However i do wonder if they stay dead? The TWINS managed to respawn in the future for some reason.
@@nikkichhun I heard about this elsewhere, but O’Malley said that the Ex’s respawned at their houses after defeat, and just couldn’t be arsed to go back to Toronto, afterwards.
I was wondering of people saying the adaptation wasnt faithful were doing a bit! oh man I don't know if I'll love this or not-I guess at the very least as you stated this will be a great way to give some characters of the series more lime light. Presentation itself still looks amazing.
I definitely liked it. It’s not the same high octane action as the movie, but the slow burn is still enjoyable. I liked getting time with the other characters. It had Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya vibes but done better.
And Bryan did admit during the writing of the comics and movie that he never really explored Ramona as a character and that she was more of mcguffin if anything. I definitely wish Scott was more present though but it works enough where we’re looking forward to see him again while spending time with Ramona.
I agree 100%, they should have had more Scott. They could have kept the mystery going and still feature him more somehow.
They could have shown the future stuff happening as we all knew he wasn't actually dead from the jump. Him being displaced by still continuing the plot adjacent to Ramona would have made this feel less like a bait and switch scenario.
@Lastjustice so basically just immediately reveal the twist that future Scott was behind it?
@@anonymouslucario285 No, you can have Scott explore the future and make seem like incidental as he's an idiot. It wasn't like Scott being his own worst enemy is new ground for this story, with Negascott. The other shoe can drop later without keeping Scott on the bus the entire time.
I know Netflix wanted the end of Episode 1 to be a big surprise, but perhaps this is one instance where it would have been better to let audiences know this was a Scott Pilgrim mystery narrative. Now there are fans angry about the bait and switch, that I don't think would have been so bad if they were prepared for what was in store. Because in context, this is a pretty neat story idea.
That's me. i REALLY wanna like it, but all the marketing hinting at fans that "you'll finally see the comic in motion! (as close as you can be of course, a 1:1 adaptation doesn't exist)" to end up in that twist really left a sour taste in my mouth.
It's like watching a really good movie but there was something going on at the showing that ruin it for you, a kid crying, people that didn't shut up or were just being annoying, popcorn being chewy and old, etc. That will stick to the experience no matter what. But now that i know what the gist of this version is, i am excited about a 2nd season.
I heavily disagree. I LOVED that it completely surprised me. I love when a twist hits me hard, and they did everything to make sure it hit as hard as possible. Definitely my favorite moment in the series because of the level of shock I felt. I wish that kind of thing was more common.
i think the title was vry accurate, scott pilgrim literally took off after ep 1 and we saw a new version of the story. As someone whos read the comics and watched the movie over and over its so nice and fresh to see a new take. Love this show and a season 2 would be lesbians.
Theres an order of things to do this right. Usually, they do shit like this, after addapting it faithfully first. Eh just my two cents. Me personally i am mot big at scott pilgrim, and i was considering watching the show to try and get into it, but hearing the disingenuity the animation production have decided to go onto this, nah. I better not put any investment of enthusiasm for this franchise. It's just another american IP burning it's integrity for some cheap shock factor.
@@bryanmerel thats fair i feel like the show is more aimed to fans than new people. Theres a lot of references to the games, comics, and movie. But you could watch the show anyway its still really good and the animation is insane.
@PlacidSine I have more backlogs of animated series that do not only have great animation, but also faithful to the source material. I can watch Freiren: Beyond Journey's End before this. What I mean is, they should have considered that they are competing against more competent shows for other people's time. Their biggest selling point is the show drawing the built-in Scott Pilgrim fans, or interested to be fans with a promise of a faithful adaptation. Netflix threw that through the window. It doesn't help that there were never even a clue that they would pull something like this. It's betreyal of trust, and if they never pull this false advertisement shinenigan, people wouldn't have been this sour toward the show.
I loved every bit of it. So much clever dialog with nods to the movie, the books, and itself. Even the title because he literally takes off. While I'm a little sad that we won't ever see Roxy vs. Mr Chau, or the fight for Kim, I am blown away with what we got. We got a sequel that can stand in its own as well as a natural hook for a second season.
Well , retarded shows were made for retards so I understand !
How is this a sequel though? It's more of an alternate universe like part 7 of the jjba manga
The virtual boy was the best thing to see from the references, and that the room's floor was the controller for the virtual was the cherry on top
The issues I have with the final product is that the trailer is a literal Bait and Switch, we the established audience, that enjoy the comics, movie and game, expected a faithful adaption that would serve to have new audiences to be introduced to the tale, that has been proven to make money. Why not follow the proven template Japan does with their animation, where it peaks the interest of new audiences to seek out(spend money) on the source material? They the producers had the chance to animate the original tale and adds some layers to characters and plot, but no, let's subvert expectations, they will love, eat it up like swine and buy merch with no question. I didn't really enjoy this new take, first because of the bait and switch and then the late the episodes development that Scott was stopping himself from fighting for Ramona. This series assumes all viewers watch the movies or read the comics, I marvel that Brian O'Malley and the Producers that put money into getting this made didn't think about the long term game, this could have been a Ok development after you animated the sources material, got the new audience, secured the established audience, as is it creates division, those that wanted an animated adaption didn't get one, those that like the new take and know only that won't have anything less to purchase and enjoy. We all lose.
Yeah the trailer explicitly shows scenes that appear to be Scott and Ramona battling the evil exes but that is simply not what we got.
I am a fan since the first HQ come out and was expecting a faithful adaptation... and I loved they throw it out the window!
All your cry just show that even all that time you didn't understand the source material till this day.
@@mathinho1237 The story is about to flawed young people getting together and having to deal with the pain they have inflicted on others in their pursuit of love, Sprinkled with game inspired action and visuals. Not sure what you mean by not getting the story. Second O'Malley could have added more back story to the exes with straying from giving us a closer adaption. If you like it great, happy for you. I don't, the world goes on. Have a good one.
Personally, my favorite Easter egg was hearing Simon Pegg and Nick Frost. I always thought with the movie, "You couldn't get them a cameo, Edgar Wright?" And I may or may not have screamed at the top of my lungs hearing their voices and seeing them eat cornetto.
I liked it, I liked the chemistry they made with this version of Scott and Ramona, but I was kinda let down, I really wanted to see the Graphic Novel, as a TV series, what I got was Master of the Universe, if no one leaked the "He-Man dies" part, and made it actually decent.
It something I enjoyed, will watch again, and I like that they don't just have Ramona be that Toxic "Strong Female Character" trope that goes on a lot recently. I like that they make her likeable, yet showing that she is not a good person and her trying to reconcile with her Exes for her mistakes so she could find Scott. Yet I just wished they gave us the actual Graphic Novel, instead of just a weird quasi sequel series.
It just leaves a sour spot for me.
I wonder if it would have been better if they broke the fourth wall and went "wait, this wasn't in the script" or something.
But it's literally called Takes Off, and not Vs. The World so if you used your brain to think then you would have expected it to not repeat the movie/comic.
@@StarRain6 Take off can mean and be used in several ways like for example: takes off to an adventure, takes off on a road trip, take off as in being popular or successful it could been either of those elements.
@@StarRain6 1) the graphic novel series is just Scott Pilgrim as a whole. Scott Pilgrim vs the world is the Title of only the 2nd Volume and since it's a great title they used it for the movie. By your logic the movie title should have just covered the fight of Lucas Lee and ended at clash of demons head song.
2)There have been extended names before. One major example is the manga Full Metal Alchemist's faithful anime adaptation is Full Metal Alchemist: *Brotherhood*
@@deckire wait a minute you're right! But still Takes Off is a brand new subtext so it makes sense to show a (mostly) brand new adventure!
This is if Kevin Smith made a multiverse show.
Does this improve the film? No. The chemistry between Scott and Ramona didn’t feel more believable, honestly felt less believable because Scott was missing for the majority of the show.
The highlight were the side characters such as the evil exes and Scott’s band.
But some performances such as Scott, Ramona, and Young Neil feel more deadpan compared to Matthew Patel, Lucas Lee, Gideon, and Knives. The performance felt inconsistent in quality.
Roxie was the most fleshed out of the exes, the rest were just comedy bits for this season.
Also future Ramona says she loves Scott, but how?! Why?!
And we’re going to criticize Scott two timing but we’re not going to confront Ramona seriously past Roxie? Like Lucas Lee and Todd or the Twins? No self reflection, improvement?
If they’re going to change the story so drastically as an opportunity to improve said story then use the most out of it.
What was the point of the Movie episode? Seeing Wallace home wreck Todd and Envy? Why Todd? Honestly thought it’d be Lucas Lee.
Great music, camera work and animation but story and performance wise it was not the best it could’ve been.
If y’all enjoy it for the aesthetics then great.
Wallace breaking Todd was sweet cold revenge against what Envy did to Scott. He didn't believe all of the sparkles stuff...
Until he kissed Mobile lol
Lucas and Gordon's friendship was something I didn't know I wanted!
As soon as Scott "died" I knew this was going to go weird, but I enjoyed the ride overall.
i love that this show is receiving positive feedback. i thought i was going to hate it since it's another bait and switch but the characters' personality and cool animations had me hooked
Loved it, I love it more because it showed different perspectives and not just scott. how everyone revolved in absence of scott especially ramona . Hoping this lays the path for more seasons. i hope.
Im happy for the people who got to experience scott pilgrim for the first time and enjoyed it. I dont mind the series going to a different direction But for me scott is pretty much the heart and soul of the series and a big reason why its one of my all time favorite comics/movies axing him out like this is just disappointing and overall harmed the show for me.
The visuals and ost for this show were absolutely perfect imo. Voice cast was a lot better, and michael cera's scott was such a huge improvement from his more apathetic awkward characterization from the film. I do have to say that I definitely think the show suffered from scott's prolonged absence. Even if the improved development of all the other characters was pretty great for the most part, I really do think scott's backstory and improvement of major character flaws kind of carried the original story for me. Hope we can see another season of the show to dig into the meat of his character more.
All that stuff STILL happened in the comics. Scott has always been kind of dopey. And we know he is TERRIBLE at break ups. Ramona is bad with communication. He thought the space she needed was a divorce. So his dumbass BECAME a evil ex. It's hilarious and poetic. It's a sweet ass semi-sequel. The evil exes were 1 dimensional jerks, and Ramona was always sort of a bitch to them growing up. This is a really cool way to promote growth and show depth of all the characters and give them room to be humans. Instead of pissed off people who get murdered. I thought it was a super rad addition to the lore. The creator wrote it after all.
Yes it was amazing i hope we also get a fighting game out of this!
I thought the story was just bizarre. I wish they had just done a 1 to 1 adaptation
Same
Yea, mine was, it took time to grow on me to digest
Lazy mind
sorry you have shit taste
The story garbage, glad I watch La first it's way more fun
Nerds when an author use the brand of his creation for a publicity stunt: 🤯🤯🤯
If they were upfront about an Alternate Retelling then maybe their show wouldn't be talked about like this, but let's face it Kevin Smith is a d**k & how he approached the backlash to his MOTU series he earned his infamy. Since Bryan Lee O'Malley is not only the creator of the entire series, he's also the showrunner of this series, so it remains to be seen how this particular reception will be treated.
In fact, not just on Netflix's website itself, but Rotten Tomatoes & IMDB pretty much is misleading on the synopsis basically stating the basic plot of of the Graphic Novels & in general the 2010 movie plot without any mention of an 'Alternate Retelling'. There was probably a better way to advertise it, but by using a bait-and-switch method, which Netflix drummed up a negative reputation because of MOTU, I do not blame anyone coming to this conclusion.
Maybe Scott Pilgrim Takes Off is a good show, but now there's a negative stigma stapled to this show because of the advertising as well as the approach utilized with Kevin Smith's MOTU.
I think if you start to think that Scott is not the mc in this show, you can start to like much more what happens in the show.
Even though I would have love a 1 by 1 adaptation of the novels, this felt much more fresh, I am 100% sure that I enjoyed this more than however much I would’ve enjoyed a 1 by 1 adaptation. It’s great that we get an adaptation where Scott is not the focus of attention (at least not directly), but the whole world that surrounds his journey. I’ve always thought that at the end of the novel while Scott had a full character arc ramona was just starting to make a few steps towards changing as a person, and this totally solves that issue for me. And the other great thing is that in this reinterpretation of the show, the writers have the chance to create more stories about the world, since they’ve already established that this is not your original Scott pilgrim, and since this season has tackle most other character in a second season we can watch more of scott fr this time, since we didn’t see much of him.
What i like about it is that it’s kind of a what-if but it also a sequel, just in a multiverse kind of way, the events of the books/movie does happen just we also see what the end result to that version of the character, i like how the series expands and give the other character development and the world in general. I was expecting a series about the comic but since we have so many versions of the original story, from the original/movie/game , I’m glad they went this direction.
Trust me this was an amazing series, perfect. But calling it “Scott Pilgrim” was a mistake…
It's not a mistake. Since its's called "Scott Pilgrim Takes Off" like use comprehension and the show literally does what the title entails.
@@Snzn18 That's still tricking people since obviously that's not the meaning people automatically got, especially when the trailers were Scott centric.
@@Biostar96 I mean at least for me I sused out the anime might do something different since the "Takes off" don't really reference anything from the comics.
Like even the movie altered the subtitle to "vs. The World" but still referenced it from the chapter 6 title of the comic.
Since the same people are still overseeing the anime, I just thought their might be something behind the new title
Plus having seen the show itself. The title actually comes off stronger since by the end of it the audience would have already catch on what the title meant.
In short it will end up as an "If you know, you know" type of title.
@@Snzn18 Yeah by the end I got that "Takes off" in this context means "takes a break" or "leaves".
@@Biostar96it's called marketing, you have a name that ressonates you create a brand of it. Things have been working like that for some time by now
Now all they have to do is cancel it after the first season and it’ll be perfect
Cope
I liked the show but I clearly understand why people are hating it.
The main (and probably only) issue with the show its how it was presented.
It was basically a classic Netflix Bait and Switch. I think we all wanted to see a faithful adaptation and THEN (maybe) a sequel. What a way to ruin a good sequel, by lying to the fans
Nerds when they find everything they consume is a marketing scam: 🤯
The fans didn't understand till this day that Scott and Ramona are not good people. O'Mailey was sick of those tards, they deserved it
Damn it’s pretty crazy how they can take a series fundamental to my childhood and make me not care at all
Hipsters when the creator try to fix the toxic couple the public didn't understand the first time:
@@mathinho1237thinking the story needs “fixing” shows a lack of comprehension of the story and its themes
@@ChrisMillerCrazyHouse Too many people read the comics/watched vs the world and thought scott and/or ramona were great people and not toxic at all. Maybe that part needed 'fixing'. Mind you this series was writen by the author.
Neither of them were "great" people, whatever that means. They were just people. Strip away all of the video game references and anime action and you get a very realistic human story, about two young people working through their issues and past to form a union together. This series feels like it threw that out just to fit in with this weird idealized current day IDEA of what a relationship should be.
And did OMally REALLY write this show or just have his name attached to it.
@@Hqueem
Plain and simply, the show should have been call "Ramona Flowers faces her past". But the series was a classic "Bait and Switch".
How dare the author took the name of his creation and used it the way he wanted?
@@mathinho1237 Why are you defending them using a bait and switch?
@@deandre6559 Who is them? The author of the original comics wrote this sequel, not netflix
"Scott pilgrim takes off" more like "Scott pilgrim forgot to show up"
i find a lot of the negative criticism of this show to be insincere. personally the bait and switch was super exciting. if you want the story of the comics, simply read the comics. as a fan of them, i loved getting to see the same characters in new situations. i just wish we could've seen more development on scott's side, but im hopeful for a season 2. also maybe then we'll FINALLY get to see lisa miller get attention. she is so neglected by this franchise lol.
As a fan of the comics, movie, and video game I was shocked at what they did but absolutely welcomed by it. While the future self concept has been done to death it really worked for a story like Scott Pilgrim where he could see his future version of him self being far gone as a warning on who he shouldn’t become
This is honestly trash, for anyone that read the comics it's an insult to every single character. We actually spend quite a bit of time with every evil ex in the comics and they are way more interesting than in this adaptation.
TL:DR Scott learned to face his past to try to be a better person but hey I guess he forgot all about it in 10years and is back to being an idiot.
This is lowkey the same as what they did to Luke in the last jedi
My thoughts exactly on Scott and Ramona's romance feeling better here but also with Scott being taken out for way too long.
I really think the show giving more attention to explore the sidecharacters is what makes this adaptation interesting but we've all been burned recently at the trend of a show being named after a character then being switched for a female lead that nobody likes, except this time we actually like Ramona as she dosen't fall into that half cut hair weirdo that dosen't resemble her original character.
Yet we did come here for Scott getting into fights so taking him out so early and not letting him appear untill much later is something these showrunners gata stop doing. I almost dropped this show because of that but videos like this give me a bit of hope the entire thing won't suck.
Sounds fun that they are setting Scott up to fight the evil exes again if the show continues but if they switch him out a 2nd time when that happens then I don't think theres any hope for these revivals.
Though I liked this show, I’m honestly disappointed that this wasn’t a direct adaptation of the original novels. I never read any of the graphic novels and I was pretty excited because I had heard there were some big differences from the 2010 film. From the way Netflix was advertising the series, it looked exactly like that, so seeing it deviate from the plot without being given much of a hint made me confused. It’s sort of like what The Last of Us Part 2 was for me, it was advertised as something completely different from the final product. Though I will say this was a lot better than TLOU2 for me. I was still entertained and I think it’s a unique way of writing a pseudo-sequel (?) to the original story.
On the other side, as a first time viewer of the Scott pilgrim series. I really appreciate the twists. Maybe it’s because I kinda already got the whole scott pilgrim story in the first few eps. It felt refreshing even if I hading touched the franchise before. My only disappointment is that they didn’t explore the twins as much as the others.
See I think a lot of people are hung up on Scott being absent from the story. But we already know Scott's personal journey to betting himself and being someone worth dating.
Now we get to see an indepth view of Ramona's journey and how her actions hurt the Ex's in the first place and get to see her and the Ex's grow as characters and not just have them all just die off like villians of the week.
Hung up on the fact that they were expecting Scott Pilgrim with his name in the title?
@@Kameron87 ikr lmao
Would have been fine if it was the second season or something. Them taking Scott out right about the beginning is bullshit to say the least.
@@ericdugal8818 But any real fan has read the comic and seen the film already.
@FoxaBear I agree, lol now I want to see a different version of the story from every character's point of view but that would be like twenty seasons heh
Was excited for the show, but now I'm not. Another bait and switch. It's called Scott Pilgrim... Could have been fine if done in another season (or just one maybe two episodes as mentioned), but not what should have been the beginning of the new show. I'm fucking tired of it.
Knives and Kim jamming is one of the best scenes in anything ever.
This animated series made me really appreciate how good the movie actually was.
Guess we are never getting an animated series of the comics
I think this is completely disrespectful to the source material. And to the fans. Not sure why the trailers made it seem this was about scott. And then do a bate and switch. Its frustrating. Its not hard to stick to the original. Really no reason to change it. This is a pass for me.
Good series or not, it was stupid of them to bait and switch after people got burnt by Netflix He-man
Kinda wish they didn't title bait its about Scott pilgrim, not everyone else. Now, if we do get a season 2, I hope we get working scoot.
I mean...the title is accurate. He takes off...from the show...for several episodes....
@Exl6243 but it's not honest. Scott is barely in a show named after him and there was no warning about it before the end of episode 1
@@MichaelJohnson-vu3bt Right. He took off. He left.... r/woosh
@@Exl6243lol I will make a superman show, call it Superman: Acends, I will show trailers from episode 1 and some close up villain shots, and then at the end of episode 1 Superman will fly away and focus on Lois lane. Then when people say I lied I will go"hey! The title is true! He accended by flying away to handle another threat!"
@@MichaelJohnson-vu3btare you telling me they used marketing? On a media product? 🤯🤯🤯
I personally like the fact that Scott is gone for so long because there wasnt very much to do when he got back in canon, so if he just came back after 2 or 3 episodes then i feel that the suhow would have gotten very boring and i think the way the show handles Scotts disappearance was pretty good overall. (Other than basically everyone except Ramona not caring about Scotts "death")
i was shocked at the end of ep 1, loving the different takes through the next few episodes, and then realising nearer the end that its actually a sequel was fantastic. Love this series so much, cannot wait to rewatch it soon and hoping that we do get more seasons with this much love given to them.
maybe more Katayanagi Twins in season 2 1? please? :)
It's kind of shocking to me how many people are pissy about this. I really appreciated how the Exes and many supporting cast got more screentime. I honestly thought why they got most of the cast is because they won't last very long like the exes but nope. They don't show up and die in 5 minutes.
Shouldn't have named it Scott Pilgrim then?
You can't try to fix a toxic couple and expect the nerds to be happy
So we can't be mad when an adaptation doesn't adapt correctly? If they were going to tell a completely different story then change the title completely. The comic had so much that was left out of the movie, but just like everything else being made today we have to sideline the male main character for a female.
I'm just gonna say this.. This adaptation sucks garbage
If some people are gonna cry about stuff like "The title doesn't fit my expectations..." or the usual loser complaint "It's a bait and switch" then I say let them cry lol snowflakes. Talk about being the Karens of television 🙄 crying over almost nothing, and cant appreciate a great continuation of the story. Meh, it's sad.
They He-Man'd Scott Pilgrim!
Why change something if it's not broken?
Why Haikyuu is amazing? Didn't change a thing, they added more to understand the characters.
Pluto is incredible, the animation is flawless and didn't change the story.
Scott Pilgrim just takes off from his own story, such a shame.
Eh. I just think ramona is not that interesting of a character for them to focus so much on... especially nowadays, since she literally became one of the most overused archetypes ever. Plus, much like scott, shes not that good of a person, and rather is kinda toxic; the way they sort of sanctified her into being the ultimate hero to save scott (both in past and future) really felt off
The decision *not* to focus that much on Scott was absolutely the right decision, for sure, for not to dwell too much on the past all... but they couldve used this opportunity sooo much better to flesh out more of the league and secondary characters, and instead we just got ramona flowers: the show; which didnt feel nearly as unique as the source material was at its time... pretty much every single "villain" and even knives (which was always pretty secondary) felt a lot charismatic than ramona herself, which is questionable to say the least. But yeah, we could definitely have seen *some* of whats going on w scott until ep 6
We really need more critics like this
Maybe not the most popular opinion, but Scott was the least likeable character in the movie for me (he's really more of an antihero than a hero), and is clearly the focus of the movie. The TV show giving a chance for the rest of the cast of interesting characters to all get their own bits of backstory and development honestly was a great spin for me
Frankly I was bored through the whole thing.
Voice acting is great and the characters are fun, especially Wallace and Young Neil, but I went in expecting action more in line with the movie.
It's not a terrible show... But my expectation is what ruined it for me.
Awesome, haven’t seen it yet but it’s definitely on my list
I agree with you. If scott went missing for like just 2 episodes, it would be perfect.
To be fair these actors had almost 20 years to get to know each other
This was my first time seeing anything Scott Pilgram so I didn’t realize till after I finished the show that it was different from the comics
Well, the show is called Scott Pilgrim Takes Off, not Scott Pilgrim Sticks Around 🤷🏻
Sucks Scott, the main character is absent most of the damn season, but hey good character development with those evil exes. Good to have him back though.
I agree with you about the chemistry was lack luster in the live action versus the animated series. I felt like Ramona really did not like Scott but tolerated him. Whereas in the animated series I can see Ramona CLEARLY likes Scott. She smiles!! She's so much more expressive in the TV show than in the movie
For a while I had a hard time determining what this story was supposed to be, like a retelling or a revival, and then it hit me: I believe this show was meant to feel like a New Game plus, or slightly more egregious, post game DLC.
Like how you start a game over again after beating it, and new things are added like storylines, scenarios, and story arcs for side characters. This has been a practice game developers like Game freak and Atlus do, so I can see through that lens. And it's not uncommon for rebooted games to add new stuff to justify its existence, like Persona or Pokemon
I would say my only actual criticism is the framing device of having Ramona color her hair each episode. I liked what they were going for, but from afar it looks like they were trying to cut back on animation costs. Maybe it was meant to symbolize her resistance to change, since her future self was still doing it? Another nitpick is how they resorted to stereotypes for Wallace's comedy. That didn't age well when the graphic novel and movie came out, and it sticks out even worse here
I was shocked by what happened at first, but there's no denying that the anime was brilliant nonetheless
I love how old Scott has memories of him and Ramona on a virtual boy 😂 one if the shittiest pieces of technology ever made yet Scott Pilgrim has it that made me chuckle a bit
scott is also REALLY simplified. he is put as a really better and cute version of himself, comparing with the comics. it's okay tho I guess
I like this series and what they did. First off Scott Pilgrim main theme is the adaptation of the generational evolution of the pop culture. It referenced the 80s, 90s and the 2000s. The story can be anything it wants to be and back in 2008 when the movie adaptation came out, the production was so good it built its own following. The comic/book series was even expansive with its lore but the world of Scott pilgrims only has one rule, that it doesn't have anything in particular kind of ruleset. Meaning that was cool and interesting back then but this has been done and being made for more similar series. Spongebob, Regular Show, Amazing world of Gumball, Adventure time, Gravity falls. These series has the same kind of energy and pop culture reference as scott pilgrims but because these are more recent they even have more expanded universe and story than just a boy trying to chase a girl while also avoiding the fact that he is two timing. This series stopped and step back on what it had. And it had Characters other than Scott and Ramona. The craziness is being maintained but more especially the characters' growth was focused. Patel in the comic book/movie is Ramona's token brown boyfriend. But in this series he's just another guy who wants to try and accomplish his goal of performing broadway. The others were also treated the same and I think that was nice. It became a show that became self-aware of its weakness, being left by time and being too concentrated on Scott's personal issues when supposedly any character could've their own issues. I think it did well giving the fans sometime to watch a story other scott. I like Knives here the most. The joke about her is she's asian and is pretty much a virtuoso having to move on easily about Scott and realizing her potential was a nice touch about the show.
After watching Scott Pilgrim Takes Off, here's what I have to say. I loved it so much and the first episode genuinely caught me, and everyone else watching, off-guard. I thought it would be just like in the books and movie where Scott fights against Ramona's exes so he would date her, but instead, he "lost" and it because less about Scott and more about Ramona. I also love that we got development on Scott's friends and Ramona's exes. The series does surprisingly well with Ramona taking the lead.
As far I'm aware this is a one and done show, no season 2 as of now
I feel like they would've had a greater effect in exploring these characters and the journey of Scott and Ramona's relationship both with eachother and themselves by keeping Scott around. Like Scott becoming self aware perhaps and instead of beating the EX's down he and Ramona try to quell their pain through and then Scott learning more about Ramona through them, Ramona learning more about Scott, and then looking at their toxic traits from a more serious lens. And I understand the backlash from fans, it felt like in the same vain as He-Man, where they advertise the series as one way, but then pulled the rug. At this point I think people are tired of the Bait and Switch method. I enjoyed Scott don't get me wrong, but I really think the series would benefit more if had him working with Ramona and build their relationship together as the series progressed.
I liked the show but I felt the story lacking they're lucky the character stuff in Scott Pilgrim was always its greatest strength but it still felt kind of aimless as the ending felt like a beginning. The other problem that bothered me is that it's really made for people who already saw another vesion they don't even show us someone dying and turning into coins before we see Scott's death, it's one of the first more out there element in the story sure it's only explained in passing as a dismissive comment in both other versions but without seeing it established first I feel this scene could loose someone whose not familiar with the material completely, killing the main character first and the directing really put emphasis on it.
They should saved this idea for season 2 indeed of making it the main focus on it's own first season.
the problem is is the original story sees all the exes actually dying so. making it a straight adaptation for the first season and then giving the exes more spotlight in a season 2 would be a bit awkward. if you wanted the original story, the comics exist lol
one problem i have here, is that you said scott is the main character, he really isn't, the show might be named after him but really ramona is the main character, we explore her and her feelings much more than scott
I mean book 4-6 is completely different than the movie but it was nice to finally see the art style played out. I hope though if they ever do "Lost at Sea" they dont mess with it.
Love your content. Could you consider breaking down Aftermath(2014) and The Divide(2012). Those are pretty good flicks.
Absolutely!
This show was amazing what the hell?
I don’t get how some people label scott at fault on hurting people around him when the premise gave you a face value plot, the exes formed an alliance to ruin Ramona’s love life and scott’s precious little life too except for knives, she’s the one who’s been hurt most here. In scott’s defense everyone is horrible😂. When he’s missing they just pick fights & hurt each other in the process although resolved without anyone getting turned into coins & some even became friends.
this show is my first experience with scott pilgrim and its pretty cool :)
I watched the show first, then I watched the movie. Somethings made more sense after finishing the movie. Soon I hope on reading the comics.
really old scott being animated like broly was so fucking cool i loved it so much, the animation was beautiful. i hope a second season will double down on scott fighting the exes and give us a really combat focused story now that we had alot of really good character devolopment
i thought it was Evil Scott Ryu but yeah i get what your saying!
@@StarRain6 I see that too, overall it was just such good animation!
There's really no reason why he would fight them. Roxy, the Twins, Luke, and Todd are all on friendly terms now. The only ones with villainous intentions left are Matthew and Gideon and neither are interested in Ramona anymore.
@@Biostar96 I seen that too, I’m really excited with what they can do for a season 2 they really gave all the exes room to breathe and it was refreshing
Should I watch the series if I haven't watched the movie or read the books?
Glad you enjoyed it @UnleashtheGhouls I wanted and expected a faithful adaption of the source material.
Personally I am torn.
Like it was there in the title but the trailer should of shown new footage to shows it was a different perspective to the comic!
The biggest grevious I have is that the future stuff ruined the comic and/ or the film if you believed it to be canon to the comic/ film ending. I mean Scott (and Ramona) had inner conflict to work with and they resolved it at the end. The future however was like a big FU to Scott. Like with the divorce, he didn't self reflect and moved on, nope he became Akuma!
Also I loved and hate the exes getting character growth (ironic the twins didn't). I mean it was cool they got more screentime and Todd fate was way more hilarious when compared to the comc. Now if they make season 2, most of them don't have a reason to fight and killed Scott nor do I want to see them getting defeated (yes I know they respawn). I do wonder if Gideon still got his exes in a sleeping chamber?
Can't help to think Bryan kinda redid his work to downplay Scott breakup with Knives and what it did to her and redeemed Ramona.
Overall it was still decent as the animation and soundtrack were great. It more about if you can "let go" of the comic and/ or film and liked it for doing its own thing!
This was a bait and switch...plain and simple. The trailers were misleading. If the the creator and writers wanted to expand on the Scott Pilgrim universe, don't put in Scott's name in the title and then have him absent in most of the season. It's lazy and scumy
as someones first time seeing this series movies or whatever i like it
I'm assuming Mr. Chau is not in this.
Another series, were the lead gets sidelined by a strong independent woman.
“Put a chick in it, make it gay and lame.” Kathleen Kennedy.
I feel like the working title for this was "The Disappearance of Scott Pilgrim" because why not imitate something else from anime. Still, always supportive of artists that try to be ambitious and change things up a bit.
still better fandom that can face criticism even tho they liked the show. unless some others series i just wached recently.
I always thought the other bits that are left out of the comic could be filled in better, but this just wasn't very funny or interesting. And I REALLY wanted it to be. I think the studios are just literally running the writing rooms and telling them what to put in. I think I laughed out loud maybe three times.
It made me want to reread the comics though.
It was a bait and switch like the he man show Netflix did
TAKES OFF
@@trashboat5388first time hearing that
I like Scott Pilgrim Takes Off
Scott really took off from his own show 💀
Alright for people who have read the original I think they most certainly will not like this. Personally for me the show wants to be judged based off of its own merits but the problem is that they constantly remind you of the original and also it was marketed as an adaptation for fans waiting for said adaptation for about a decade so we will be rightfully mad. Besides that I thought the show itself was not that good it lacked any sort of nuance whatsoever and felt super hamfisted. When the characters were sad or your supposed to pity them it just went completely full throttle there was no gray area and lacked any real depth it was just so plain and simple. Ramona as a character is just so boring it feels like she's just perfect and super strong on her own and doesn't need anyone also it makes no sense why Ramona is so in love with Scott all of a sudden because their relationship did not grow at all they barely even interacted with each other at all.
I don't like it. It's a switch and bait with the advertising of Netflix. Creator Interview is a "not 100%" adaption, but this is just plain boring. More like "The side characters show with a little Scott Pilgrim"
But the real problem ist the flat jokes, bad sync (the voices don't feel like the expression of the chars, more monotonous).
Bruh, I just wanted to go and have a nice chill night with my friends watching this, all of us expecting to get something more like the comics. This wasn't it. Yeah, if I want to see the original, I can read the comics, BUT I CAN'T FUCKING DO THAT WITH MY FRIENDS, FOR THAT I NEED AN ADAPTATION!
I really enjoyed the show, but everything regarding its "plot" and messages.... idk, pretty stupid and shallow. like, the whole point is learning not to run away and stuff but that was already the point in the comic so...
i felt weird old scott is the villain because RAMONA is now the protagonist, so it doesn't really feel that great JQJDJA