I want to say thank you so much for this video. You are totally awesome. I have been looking and searching for recipes on 3-D art and I am so glad that I ran into your video and very grateful for the way you explained everything especially when we have questions because to us, they’re important to get answers, and that you do! Please keep this going. You’re doing an awesome job giving us information which is so needed for us newbies that are starting to do 3-D art and I love it. Thank you so much!
+Zoila Rivera I haven’t filmed it yet as I was waiting to see how the different gesso recipes stores & how they performed after a time. However, I am going to filming it very soon! Thanks!
JanelleNichol ....I really appreciate your reply. Looking forward to seeing that video when you post it. Thank you very much and thanks for sharing your knowledge. Have a bless week😃
You can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can’t please all of the people all of the time. Thanks for offering different options and for your thorough explanations. I have talc on hand so that's what I'm going to use, but it's good to know I can use something else, if necessary. Looking forward to your comparisons. ~ Lisa
I watched how they lasted and because I don't have talc and do have plaster of Paris, I am going to make this one. I need to get an airtight container though because I have my suspicions about it going hard even though yours didn't. I liked the consistency of this too...I subbed because it's only polite if I am using your recipe lol! I am in the UK so have similar problems with not knowing shops people are speaking about. I get what you mean about the stability if you are selling an artwork. I am only using it for priming dollhouses and dollhouse furniture so no worries there.
One concern: I read that because of the high acid content of Plaster of Paris you must 'slake' the plaster before using it in gesso to make it inert. This involves mixing the plaster in water and letting it sit, then rinsing it and repeating until it registers Ph 7, then letting it sit out to dry. I need to do further reading on this but I'm thinking that the high acid content may damage the binder in your paint. Thanks for the video!
Plaster of Paris is made up of one water molecule shared between two calcium sulfate molecules. The inert bulk formers used in gesso (chalk, gypsum, etc) have at least a 1:1 ratio, if not better. The drier Plaster of Paris will therefore absorb moisture instead of letting it build it up on the surface. Slaking adds the necessary moisture so that it can be used correctly in gesso.
@@ploopieflooper Slaking process takes two months! Don't even go there... )) I use agricultural gypsum in my texture paintings. If I get a well-paid commission, I use a professional artist grade texture paste.
@@hughjazz64 Thanks for your insight. A couple questions: What does this texture paste consist of and where might I find it🙂? Also, What exactly makes Gesso, Gesso? does it need to have plaster in it? or is it merely a binder with something to make it white and something to give it texture? Thanks for the chat! It's been a bit difficult for me to find people online to talk about the old ways of painting production.
Would this work as sculpture paste?? That may be a dumb question haha I'm having a hard time getting a recipe for it and I tried to make it (I used a different recipe) and I stored it away in a zip lock style container, and a sealed plastic squeeze bottle as well- it was solid like a rock in the morning 😥😭 I think I started out with 1 cup POP- 1/2 cup glue- and I don't have hardly any white paint at all so I used maybe about 1/2 cup- then I added a little water and stored that runnier recipe in the squeeze bottle, then the rest of the batch I added a little more POP to thicken that up and stored that in the plastic container. They both hardened though 😩 please help! I'm obsessed with dollhouses and miniatures so I was hoping to use something like sculpture paste for that (along with other kinds of projects) ♥from TX
Would I just use black paint in place of the white to get black Gesso? Wondering for both this recipe as well as the recipe with the powder and the baking soda please.
I have one question. I mixed my plaster of paris with water and when it dried on my canvas, it peeled off when I sand it. How can I make it stick to the canvas?
FYI.....home depot also sells PoP around less than $5 (USD) for a pound. I bought to use for diy chalk paint. Still have plenty left over for this project.
Hi, not sure about this. PoP has a chemical reaction with water. This, creates a chemical bond making the clay hard. I would put a small amount of money on that if you mix it and leave it in the pot it's going to set solid. If you mix it on the day you need it I would imagine when it sets you might get cracks on the canvas where the flexibility of the plasteris not matched by that of the PVA glue 'binder' you used. At least in talc it's an inert powder that sits in suspension in the PVA. The PVA, being a plastic, is flexible and temperature, moisture or movement in the frame would not affect it or the 'gesso' you've made with it. I'll stick with my talc.
+roop298 then stick with your talc. As I said in the video, I was getting a lot of negative comments from using talc so I wanted to do a variety of recipes for different people & their concerns. On the video with talc, I have people telling me to use PofP, on the video of PofP, I have people telling me to use talc.....
The plaster of Paris that I have used has not hardened yet. Here is a link for the update on how well this gesso stores over time and if it still works after one year. ruclips.net/video/Ih_lmTGLq3I/видео.html
Hmmmm mine didn’t crack at all...I’m sure there cane differences with humidity etc. I imagine it wouldn’t hurt to experiment with the ratios of the ingredients to see what works best for you.
I found plaster of Paris at my hardware store. I was stuffing dinosaur toys to make dresser handles and just happened to find it but it was cheaper then Walmart or Amazon I checked lol
+Messer Designs I put some on paper in this link for the update on how well this gesso stores over time and if it still works after one year. ruclips.net/video/Ih_lmTGLq3I/видео.html
so funny, I am a physicist and it would take me just 20 sec to explain how to make gesso: take plaster of Paris and mixt it with gue, and tha's it, artists like to talk a lot...
+Monika Edyta Pietrzyk well as an artist who does RUclips tutorials I also need to consider what questions I’ve been asked when it comes to gesso. People who create need to know why & how. I have had many people talk to me about their confusion when it comes to gesso. So yes, I need to talk & explain some of it. Why would I do a video where I just say “take plaster of Paris, mix it with glue”? What’s the point of even doing a video then? Obviously I’m going to talk about it 🙄
@@JanelleNichol anyway, thanks for making the video, it's just funny for me, personally I would prefer such a short videos: take plaster of paris, mix it with glue (proportions can be given) and voila, done!" But I understand that artists like to talk...
Then use the 2X speed button or fast forward. Some people complain if I don’t explain enough. Just deal with it or don’t go on RUclips. I’m done waiting for people to use their brain & figure out how to use the settings in RUclips.
Oh it would definitely be a good idea and if I could figure out a way to make myself talk less that would be awesome! I try very hard but at the end of the day- I just have to be me. Imagine someone who is a very quiet person all of a sudden trying to be a big talker. It’s kind of difficult. Unless you’re an actor maybe. But I’m not- I’m just over here trying to do some videos so I don’t worry too much about whether my personality is ok or not. But I DO try and talk less, it’s just so hard for someone like me! Haha.
I want to say thank you so much for this video. You are totally awesome. I have been looking and searching for recipes on 3-D art and I am so glad that I ran into your video and very grateful for the way you explained everything especially when we have questions because to us, they’re important to get answers, and that you do! Please keep this going. You’re doing an awesome job giving us information which is so needed for us newbies that are starting to do 3-D art and I love it. Thank you so much!
You keep saying you put the recipe down in the comments: Where? 12 minutes in and we still haven't seen how to make Gesso.
she showed the recipe in the video plus the link
I buy Canvas Panel unprimed. Can you use gesso, the same way on them?
According to you which gesso is good.....paster of Paris or cornstarch
Can this be used as oil gesso? Would I still use water based paint (white) for it?
I have used the baby powder which I made up myself and it works beautifully. Great DIY tutorial
Great video, thanks. I can’t find your next video giving your reviews on the difference between this gesso and the previous diy gesso video. TFS
+Zoila Rivera I haven’t filmed it yet as I was waiting to see how the different gesso recipes stores & how they performed after a time. However, I am going to filming it very soon! Thanks!
JanelleNichol ....I really appreciate your reply. Looking forward to seeing that video when you post it. Thank you very much and thanks for sharing your knowledge. Have a bless week😃
Here is a link for the update on how well this gesso stores over time and if it still works after one year. ruclips.net/video/Ih_lmTGLq3I/видео.html
You can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can’t please all of the people all of the time.
Thanks for offering different options and for your thorough explanations. I have talc on hand so that's what I'm going to use, but it's good to know I can use something else, if necessary. Looking forward to your comparisons. ~ Lisa
Here is a link for the update on how well this gesso stores over time and if it still works after one year. ruclips.net/video/Ih_lmTGLq3I/видео.html
I watched how they lasted and because I don't have talc and do have plaster of Paris, I am going to make this one. I need to get an airtight container though because I have my suspicions about it going hard even though yours didn't. I liked the consistency of this too...I subbed because it's only polite if I am using your recipe lol! I am in the UK so have similar problems with not knowing shops people are speaking about. I get what you mean about the stability if you are selling an artwork. I am only using it for priming dollhouses and dollhouse furniture so no worries there.
Awesome! And thanks for subscribing 😀
These diy options are great. Looking forward to seeing your future videos using them. Thanks for sharing.
Here is a link for the update on how well this gesso stores over time and if it still works after one year. ruclips.net/video/Ih_lmTGLq3I/видео.html
One concern: I read that because of the high acid content of Plaster of Paris you must 'slake' the plaster before using it in gesso to make it inert. This involves mixing the plaster in water and letting it sit, then rinsing it and repeating until it registers Ph 7, then letting it sit out to dry. I need to do further reading on this but I'm thinking that the high acid content may damage the binder in your paint. Thanks for the video!
Plaster of Paris is made up of one water molecule shared between two calcium sulfate molecules. The inert bulk formers used in gesso (chalk, gypsum, etc) have at least a 1:1 ratio, if not better. The drier Plaster of Paris will therefore absorb moisture instead of letting it build it up on the surface. Slaking adds the necessary moisture so that it can be used correctly in gesso.
@@hughjazz64 So would I be able to skip the slaking process if I just use chalk or gypsum?
....Instead of plaster of Paris?
@@ploopieflooper Slaking process takes two months! Don't even go there... )) I use agricultural gypsum in my texture paintings. If I get a well-paid commission, I use a professional artist grade texture paste.
@@hughjazz64 Thanks for your insight. A couple questions: What does this texture paste consist of and where might I find it🙂? Also, What exactly makes Gesso, Gesso? does it need to have plaster in it? or is it merely a binder with something to make it white and something to give it texture? Thanks for the chat! It's been a bit difficult for me to find people online to talk about the old ways of painting production.
You’re nails are beautiful even though I know I’m late to watching but I’m going to try this with arrowroot powder. Thank you for this video!
Would this work as sculpture paste?? That may be a dumb question haha I'm having a hard time getting a recipe for it and I tried to make it (I used a different recipe) and I stored it away in a zip lock style container, and a sealed plastic squeeze bottle as well- it was solid like a rock in the morning 😥😭 I think I started out with 1 cup POP- 1/2 cup glue- and I don't have hardly any white paint at all so I used maybe about 1/2 cup- then I added a little water and stored that runnier recipe in the squeeze bottle, then the rest of the batch I added a little more POP to thicken that up and stored that in the plastic container. They both hardened though 😩 please help!
I'm obsessed with dollhouses and miniatures so I was hoping to use something like sculpture paste for that (along with other kinds of projects)
♥from TX
I hope this gets an answer cause i too want to know
I only use the Plaster of Paris,
to make gesso. To make the thicker gesso just all more plaster.
Thank you so much. Great tutorial
I don’t see the recipe in the description
I am going to try the cornstarch one first. Would like to see videos on how well they all work.
Here is a link for the update on how well this gesso stores over time and if it still works after one year. ruclips.net/video/Ih_lmTGLq3I/видео.html
What will be the ratio of POP , Glue and water , if we don't add White paint ?
Would I just use black paint in place of the white to get black Gesso? Wondering for both this recipe as well as the recipe with the powder and the baking soda please.
Yes, just add some black paint instead of the white paint. This can work for any of the recipes.
JanelleNichol thank you very much!
I have one question. I mixed my plaster of paris with water and when it dried on my canvas, it peeled off when I sand it. How can I make it stick to the canvas?
pre sand canvas. my problem is plaster of paris cracks. did it crack on you?
@@Conanthebarbarian9 yes. It cracked too. What else can I use instead?
@@penelopegallardo5386 idk. :( keep me informed
I’m going to look into this and do a follow up video because you aren’t the first person to have this problem.
@@JanelleNichol Thanks. Looking forward to the video. Thanks.
I LOVE!! All these options!! Thanks Janelle!!!
So far I like this the best.....thanks
Hi there - I didn't see the recipe in the notes? was it posted?
I thought you said you didn’t need to add the paint cuz the POP was white. Did u wear a mask?
FYI.....home depot also sells PoP around less than $5 (USD) for a pound. I bought to use for diy chalk paint. Still have plenty left over for this project.
I was not able to find any at my Home Depot. I’ll have to look again. I’d love to be able to buy it locally.
@@JanelleNichol try Walmart too. Good luck.
Hi, not sure about this. PoP has a chemical reaction with water. This, creates a chemical bond making the clay hard. I would put a small amount of money on that if you mix it and leave it in the pot it's going to set solid. If you mix it on the day you need it I would imagine when it sets you might get cracks on the canvas where the flexibility of the plasteris not matched by that of the PVA glue 'binder' you used.
At least in talc it's an inert powder that sits in suspension in the PVA. The PVA, being a plastic, is flexible and temperature, moisture or movement in the frame would not affect it or the 'gesso' you've made with it.
I'll stick with my talc.
+roop298 then stick with your talc. As I said in the video, I was getting a lot of negative comments from using talc so I wanted to do a variety of recipes for different people & their concerns. On the video with talc, I have people telling me to use PofP, on the video of PofP, I have people telling me to use talc.....
@@JanelleNichol Hmm, what about chalk?
The plaster of Paris that I have used has not hardened yet.
Here is a link for the update on how well this gesso stores over time and if it still works after one year. ruclips.net/video/Ih_lmTGLq3I/видео.html
Yes it is
I did it using plaster of paris but once dried, it cracks.
Hmmmm mine didn’t crack at all...I’m sure there cane differences with humidity etc. I imagine it wouldn’t hurt to experiment with the ratios of the ingredients to see what works best for you.
What’s the recipe
8 min n plus, still haven't started making the gesso. 😔 Could have cut short this video alot.
TFS!
Do you use plaster of paris gesso on your commission pieces?
Me too girl 🇨🇦
I've bought plaster of Paris at Rona.
I found plaster of Paris at my hardware store. I was stuffing dinosaur toys to make dresser handles and just happened to find it but it was cheaper then Walmart or Amazon I checked lol
I like the video U seem to enjoy it
I'm @ 14:35 and still no recipe.
Please Focus on the Subject.
Speaks too much)) didn't finish this video :)
I was hoping you would put some on paper so we could see how it looks at the end
+Messer Designs I put some on paper in this link for the update on how well this gesso stores over time and if it still works after one year. ruclips.net/video/Ih_lmTGLq3I/видео.html
My god women, Please get to making it
16 minutes in. No progress. Moving on.
Well you put in the effort to make a comment so clearly you didn’t actually “move on”
What’s the recipe
so funny, I am a physicist and it would take me just 20 sec to explain how to make gesso: take plaster of Paris and mixt it with gue, and tha's it, artists like to talk a lot...
+Monika Edyta Pietrzyk well as an artist who does RUclips tutorials I also need to consider what questions I’ve been asked when it comes to gesso. People who create need to know why & how. I have had many people talk to me about their confusion when it comes to gesso. So yes, I need to talk & explain some of it. Why would I do a video where I just say “take plaster of Paris, mix it with glue”? What’s the point of even doing a video then? Obviously I’m going to talk about it 🙄
@@JanelleNichol anyway, thanks for making the video, it's just funny for me, personally I would prefer such a short videos: take plaster of paris, mix it with glue (proportions can be given) and voila, done!" But I understand that artists like to talk...
@@JanelleNicholThanks for that answer great answer by the way because you are correct and I thank you for your explanations! keep up the great work
Oh my God get to the point! I'm done waiting and listening to you blah blah...!
Then use the 2X speed button or fast forward. Some people complain if I don’t explain enough. Just deal with it or don’t go on RUclips. I’m done waiting for people to use their brain & figure out how to use the settings in RUclips.
@@JanelleNichol I agree with Jen Lynn, you spend way too much time before getting to the point with instructions.
Yawn........Wake me when you get to the making of the gesso.
Too much talking
You talk to much before you actually make the gesso
It might be a good idea to talk less and get on with the making of gesso in this case and demonstrate how well it works.
Thanks
God bless
Oh it would definitely be a good idea and if I could figure out a way to make myself talk less that would be awesome! I try very hard but at the end of the day- I just have to be me. Imagine someone who is a very quiet person all of a sudden trying to be a big talker. It’s kind of difficult. Unless you’re an actor maybe. But I’m not- I’m just over here trying to do some videos so I don’t worry too much about whether my personality is ok or not. But I DO try and talk less, it’s just so hard for someone like me! Haha.
so much talking !!!!