Part 2 is live! ruclips.net/video/CD384Aem1kc/видео.html SEPARATELY, Newegg is issuing partial refunds to purchasers of the AMD R3 & R5 APUs, following their "accidental" over-pricing of the items. Learn more here: www.gamersnexus.net/industry/3236-newegg-partially-refunds-customers-for-overpriced-apu-purchases You might also like our GT 1030 benchmark! ruclips.net/video/dw9ZzYYHC8o/видео.html
Gamers Nexus. Might as well refund their whole purchase if they were really sorry, but what ethics does that computer store even hold after their bullshit mining price markup and non-refund policies >:c
Bro help me out. Am planning for Ryzen 2400G. Could u suggest me a good mobo for excellent overclocking both CPU APU and Ram. So say that they can overclock ram to 3666 with CL15 or CL16 (not sure as conversion on live chat) And Flare x is super costly for me. Any alternative in this ram sphere? For maximum performance on Vega 11 with 16gig dims.
what a tease. didn't even show us if it still posted :-o so how does the substraight stay in its place when turned vertically? just the friction fit of the cooler?
The American approach: Gamers Nexus 😅😥😱😭 [full of tension, like a crime drama] The German approach: Der8auer 😋😎😍😇 [so perfect, almost on the brink of boring] Like night 🌜and day 🌞...
For reference, here's AMD's history of their use of solder vs TIM: • 125w Athlon 64 = soldered • 65w Athlon 64 = TIM • Phenom / II = soldered • Athlon II = TIM • FX = soldered • FM1/2 A-series = TIM
However, the Ryzen pins are still noticeably thinner than the Brisbane Athlon X2 that I had. I have never bent a pin, so I do not know how much they can take.
The old AMD CPUs were pretty tough, same can't be said for the weak and fragile intel P4 CPUs which I know of a few people that bent them inserting the CPU without even feeling any resistance and destroyed CPU and motherboards lol. I have quite a few old AMD cpus and even one socket 940 opteron CPU got stuck to the coolers and ripped the CPU out during transport from Germany to Australia all the while the cooler still mounted under full pressures and sliding the pins around on top of the socket. None of the pins were even slightly bent. I was impressed. The CPU also had a ceramic substrate. Looks just like a typical ryzen type package but with purple ceramic substrate instead. I have always liked AMD's PGA designs.
Very true. Tho we have larger companies who sponsor out comps, it's the local people we get as vendors. Also with the small guys, you often get input and feedback on products. So customers often have a more personal connection with the product manufacturer.
Dollar shave club is dumb as fuck. Get a double edge razor, shave like a real man and suddenly "dollar shave club" becomes $0.001 shave club when you can buy a years supply of double edge razors for less than $10.
6:34 "the way I remember..." It has a missing piece of silicone adhesive so you can tell it goes that way 6:42 "doesn't need to go back same way" well... it has a risen (see what I did there?) piece inside to contact the die so... yes it has to go the same way. EDIT: or 180 degree rotation I guess would be the same
I understand why they did it, but honestly I'd pay another $5 dollars for the solder. It's not a huge deal considering how budget these are, but if the big push with these is Mini-ITX builds, low temps are pretty important.
I highly doubt it's $5 Material cost isn't everything btw, there's the cost of manufacturing, manufacturing time, cost of electricity, and the cost of the equipment for manufacture. This is the case in any scenario when it comes to material manufacturing. The fact AMD did this at all shows the trade off is worth the cut down cost, and in all honesty I think it is. These chips are not very hot as it is
AMD also came out and admitted it. They didn't try hiding it. Also they might be using something higher grade than what Intel is using. They also probably pass these savings onto us, instead of increasing the profit margin
Easiest way is to put the IHS in the vice, get a block of wood against the substrate, then hit the block of wood with a hammer somewhat lightly until it comes loose.
der8auer did it with his delid die mate 2 but he just added a little piece of acrylic plastic to spread the force on the whole pcb. He only gained 25Mhz and his temperatures went around ~10-15C° lower. But he mentions that he could only stress test the CPU part and that the temperatures gains could be higher when the whole chip is being stressed. Since the APU's don't seem to be Temperature limited but limited by the processing, just like Ryzen (with good coolers), delidding makes the most sense when dealing with small form factor cases and small coolers while overclocking simultaneously.
Just got my GN mod mat and it's awesome! Suggestion: Perhaps do a couple of videos highlighting using the anti-static wrist band in different regions other than the US where there is no ground in the power outlet, for example in Canada or Europe.
Just because the sockets in Europe have 2 pins doesn't mean they arent ground. The grounded 2 pin sockets in europe also have 2 (top and bottom) pressure pins that touch a contact plate on the plug. Just google image search "european electrical socket" and you will see the 2 pressure pins i'm talking about.
how does he do this w/o bending pins? i recently bent a pin i think just by sliding it a little on a old varneished table, coulldnt have been from handling it as pin on edge was bent out what a pain to fix
that might work too but it was just that i needed my glasses and enough light, like bathroom light to even see exactly which pin it was thena steady hand with tweezers or empty pen to bend the right one back into place.
Maybe its just Me, but the god damn heatspreader looks mighty thick, what gives? It looks like, you could grind entire 1-2 mm down of the copper plate. Thats an insane amount of material. AMD is nuts!
Have you considered sending TIM samples from delidding CPU's and from doing AIO conversions to graphics cards to a lab to be analyzed for chemical compisition?
If you want an easier time off cleaning old thermal paste, etc., try using MG Chemicals Safety Wash II or Chemtronics Electro-WasH PX. I've found those quite useful in that regard.
If you are applying force to all the pins simultaneously, it probably takes more force than you are capable of generating without a tool, if you apply force to a single pin perpendicular to the direction it stands then you encounter a risk of bending, but it is still much harder to bend than lga pins, because the pins are thicker and the way they are oriented makes it hard to apply force in the direction needed.
We'll just going to try heat this thing up in the test bench and cut it open with a razer. Segways straight into the shaving commercial. Steven don't tell me the whole dilliding thing was just to push Dollar Shave Club razers.
If you did this again you should get a loose am4 socket thats not in a motherboard and put it in that socket to keep the pins protected, that way man handling it is less likely to damage it.
I want you guys to compare AIOs vs air coolers. 360, 280, 240mm etc. vs a plethora of air coolers from the monstrous NH-D15s, Le Grand Macho RTs, to the midrange NH-U14s, True Spirit 140 Power, Mugen 5, etc, and of course cheaper air coolers. Do it with a delidded CPUs so the thermal transfer bottleneck is moved to the cooler! Do all the fancy comparisons besides just temperatures too - cooling when noise normalized to 40DB, noise at full RPM, etc all the stuff you usually do.
@Gamers Nexus How much more do you think it would have cost AMD to solder the IHS? I think it is really unfortunate that the went with a thermal compound instead of soldering. I really dislike thermal compound under the IHS and that solely is the only reason why I did not get the I7 8700k and instead will get the Zen+ version of R5 1600 or R7 1700.
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I am not sure of the r3 and r5 4 core varient of Zen 2 but it's most likely will be soldered same as 1st generation.
so because this is a PGA chip and there's no mounting pressure on the IHS to keep it in place, does that mean one could do direct die cooling again? (asking for a friend)
Hey Steve, what the huge mouse pad thing called that's on your desk? Can you please post a link for it? Thanks. Edit: nevermind, it's your mod mat, I just saw your plug during the video lol
Did that end up being too much LM? If not then after watching you do it I feel like I put too little on my Intel chip - barely enough to evenly coat the surface and make it shiny.
Although you guys probably already did your testing by now, could you see how changing the amount of reserved ram the iGPU can use affects its performance. Also, if using these APUs with 8 GB of RAM affects other things, like RAM heavy games (ex. Rise of the Tomb Raider), because you no longer have 8 GB for CPU?
Though I would never do that my self it is interesting to watch. It's like microchip surgery. Also could we see if the liquid metal spills over after it gets used a bit? I m curious to see if the liquid metal stayed in place after heating.
I like the way how put ads on this channel. Not in brazen way. But what is more important. Channel do good content, withou BS. BTW. For deliding, I'm using vice, hair dryer, and aluminium tape.
At least with the extrusion on the IHS, at least amd is trying to give it the best chance of cooling with thermal paste. And so far, its been a lot better paste it seems then intels tim.
I can see no reason It wouldn't be usable off the top of my head - Seems PTFE based and insulating, Depending on how elastic it is when set it could have the same issues he raised with silicon in the last Ask GN: Namely he prefers nail polish to avoid risking pulling components off the substrate if he ever has to redo it. Also dependant on temps, the die itself could still reach 80+ degrees as a possible, you want to check flamability
Ben Grogan is it easy to remove? It seems like it would be harder to remove than liquid tape is. I am not a female so I've never used nail polish. Lol.
Nail polish is a hard finish but dissolves in isopropyl alcohol which you are already cleaning the die with: Worst case scenario a very soft brush. As I said I have no experience with the liquid tape to know it's consistency, but if it's elastic like silicone, meaning you are peeling it off rather than dissolving it - it could strip microcomponents from the substrate
It sounds like GN needs to purchase their AMD products now instead of receiving review samples. It think it had something to do with their RX Vega coverage, but I couldn't find a reliable source. I need a captain, please!
Part 2 is live! ruclips.net/video/CD384Aem1kc/видео.html
SEPARATELY, Newegg is issuing partial refunds to purchasers of the AMD R3 & R5 APUs, following their "accidental" over-pricing of the items. Learn more here: www.gamersnexus.net/industry/3236-newegg-partially-refunds-customers-for-overpriced-apu-purchases
You might also like our GT 1030 benchmark! ruclips.net/video/dw9ZzYYHC8o/видео.html
Gamers Nexus. Might as well refund their whole purchase if they were really sorry, but what ethics does that computer store even hold after their bullshit mining price markup and non-refund policies >:c
Bro help me out. Am planning for Ryzen 2400G. Could u suggest me a good mobo for excellent overclocking both CPU APU and Ram. So say that they can overclock ram to 3666 with CL15 or CL16 (not sure as conversion on live chat) And Flare x is super costly for me. Any alternative in this ram sphere? For maximum performance on Vega 11 with 16gig dims.
what a tease. didn't even show us if it still posted :-o so how does the substraight stay in its place when turned vertically? just the friction fit of the cooler?
Don't see an issue here, retailers have every right to charge what ever they want for their goods and services
The American approach: Gamers Nexus 😅😥😱😭 [full of tension, like a crime drama]
The German approach: Der8auer 😋😎😍😇 [so perfect, almost on the brink of boring]
Like night 🌜and day 🌞...
0:55 Steve turned into a POST code speaker...
I'm fluent.
I thought my computer was possesed! Happy to hear it wasn't that and I'm not going crazy.
Oh it wasn’t my Bluetooth LUL
You could even say he went...
(•_•)
( •_•)>⌐■-■
(⌐■_■)
POSTal
I thought my DAC was dying.
3:58 thanks for the quotation )
PRO Hi-Tech ну качественно делаешь, Борода, вот и упоминают)
For reference, here's AMD's history of their use of solder vs TIM:
• 125w Athlon 64 = soldered
• 65w Athlon 64 = TIM
• Phenom / II = soldered
• Athlon II = TIM
• FX = soldered
• FM1/2 A-series = TIM
what does this mean
@@mememanfresh TIM is when they cheaped out on heat conductor
you know it's getting real when the hair gets pulled back
I didn't realise the CPU pins on Ryzen were so tough. I remember bending pins on old PGA chips 15 years ago doing a lot less.
I would still work with-in plastic cpu container that cpu came in, which will naturally raise the pins so it wouldn't damage it in anyway...
However, the Ryzen pins are still noticeably thinner than the Brisbane Athlon X2 that I had. I have never bent a pin, so I do not know how much they can take.
The pins were taller in old chips.
The old AMD CPUs were pretty tough, same can't be said for the weak and fragile intel P4 CPUs which I know of a few people that bent them inserting the CPU without even feeling any resistance and destroyed CPU and motherboards lol.
I have quite a few old AMD cpus and even one socket 940 opteron CPU got stuck to the coolers and ripped the CPU out during transport from Germany to Australia all the while the cooler still mounted under full pressures and sliding the pins around on top of the socket. None of the pins were even slightly bent. I was impressed. The CPU also had a ceramic substrate. Looks just like a typical ryzen type package but with purple ceramic substrate instead. I have always liked AMD's PGA designs.
They're a lot tougher now that they're glued in place.
Intel has much to learn.
i demand part 2.
You have no right to demand anything!
Be happy with what you get and have patience boy..
I demand a sandwich! Also the second part tho.
sebastian wow u r so smart kid.amazing lol everyone understood what i meant but u.
Sponsored by dollar shaved, doesn't shaved his beard
+His legs, however, are silky smooth ;P
ash ketchum by any chance are you a fan of GradeAUnderA?
And lets hope, He never does...
ash ketchum Trim
steve...and shaving...hm okay...xD
there is some sort of crazy sound @ 0:56 that startled me made we spill my drink
f**k the shave clubs where's the beard clubs? I haven't shaved in years.
Get your beard oil and grooming comb today!
Beard&Loathing in Kentucky. Since 2011.
Beard products are pretty much ruled by local shops right now. There is a market, but everyone seems to go to the small guys for the moment.
Very true. Tho we have larger companies who sponsor out comps, it's the local people we get as vendors. Also with the small guys, you often get input and feedback on products. So customers often have a more personal connection with the product manufacturer.
Dollar shave club is dumb as fuck. Get a double edge razor, shave like a real man and suddenly "dollar shave club" becomes $0.001 shave club when you can buy a years supply of double edge razors for less than $10.
Just watched Pro Hi-Tech's video and now watching yours. Love you both guys!
shaving cream.. nail polish.. qtips.. razer blades.. hait ties.. whats next.. hair dryers? :P
yep, common girly things are also applicable to cute little processors
Almost whipped one out, well a heat gun is just a hairdryer marketed to men
i didnt realize i was watching a beauty channel
I love that you are dabbling in delids now. "Once you start down the liquid metal path, forever will it dominate your destiny."
It is great to have you doing this sort of stuff, saves us the cost! Looking forward to part #2.
6:34 "the way I remember..." It has a missing piece of silicone adhesive so you can tell it goes that way
6:42 "doesn't need to go back same way" well... it has a risen (see what I did there?) piece inside to contact the die so... yes it has to go the same way. EDIT: or 180 degree rotation I guess would be the same
fun watch! didn't think i'd last the whole video...but had a good time! great content as always, GN!
I understand why they did it, but honestly I'd pay another $5 dollars for the solder. It's not a huge deal considering how budget these are, but if the big push with these is Mini-ITX builds, low temps are pretty important.
I highly doubt it's $5
Material cost isn't everything btw, there's the cost of manufacturing, manufacturing time, cost of electricity, and the cost of the equipment for manufacture. This is the case in any scenario when it comes to material manufacturing. The fact AMD did this at all shows the trade off is worth the cut down cost, and in all honesty I think it is. These chips are not very hot as it is
AMD also came out and admitted it. They didn't try hiding it. Also they might be using something higher grade than what Intel is using. They also probably pass these savings onto us, instead of increasing the profit margin
Xyler94 No doubt, if you are going to do it, a budget part is the place to do it on.
Soldering takes some expensive elements. Gold & Indium
Irish Giant not a $300 CPU lmao
Easiest way is to put the IHS in the vice, get a block of wood against the substrate, then hit the block of wood with a hammer somewhat lightly until it comes loose.
der8auer did it with his delid die mate 2 but he just added a little piece of acrylic plastic to spread the force on the whole pcb. He only gained 25Mhz and his temperatures went around ~10-15C° lower. But he mentions that he could only stress test the CPU part and that the temperatures gains could be higher when the whole chip is being stressed.
Since the APU's don't seem to be Temperature limited but limited by the processing, just like Ryzen (with good coolers), delidding makes the most sense when dealing with small form factor cases and small coolers while overclocking simultaneously.
I figured something like this would come from your channel. Fantastic.
As another point of reference, The Stilt got a ~12C drop in temperatures when he used LM.
Der 8auer too
Would love to know the exact nail polish used for protecting the components.
GN thanks for doing this I was waiting for your video on this since I was pretty sure you were gonna do one on this.
Last night, i had a dream of steve promise to delid those apus. And i was right. Weird.
So you dream of Steve... with his long flowing hair delidding an APU atop a mighty unicorn. its not weird, its a dream we all want
Can you send me that dream?
I'm addicted to the channel and subbed to Patreon. Keep it up!
Just got my GN mod mat and it's awesome!
Suggestion: Perhaps do a couple of videos highlighting using the anti-static wrist band in different regions other than the US where there is no ground in the power outlet, for example in Canada or Europe.
All of Europe is not the same you know.. In Sweden there is always ground i the outlets.
Does the US do it differently from Canada? We have 3 prong outlets here.
Just because the sockets in Europe have 2 pins doesn't mean they arent ground. The grounded 2 pin sockets in europe also have 2 (top and bottom) pressure pins that touch a contact plate on the plug. Just google image search "european electrical socket" and you will see the 2 pressure pins i'm talking about.
What I meant is for them to do a demonstration.
As far as I know it's the same but in the manual provided there was this extra hole on the outlet and apparently not all US outlets have it.
What is the overclock potential on these chips thermally limited to begin with?
how does he do this w/o bending pins? i recently bent a pin i think just by sliding it a little on a old varneished table, coulldnt have been from handling it as pin on edge was bent out
what a pain to fix
C K Hey. Use the empty tip of a pen next time to fix those. It makes it quite easy!
that might work too but it was just that i needed my glasses and enough light, like bathroom light to even see exactly which pin it was thena steady hand with tweezers or empty pen to bend the right one back into place.
5:02 can you spot the bent pins?
Maybe its just Me, but the god damn heatspreader looks mighty thick, what gives? It looks like, you could grind entire 1-2 mm down of the copper plate. Thats an insane amount of material. AMD is nuts!
you really got me with the "add" for the modmat.
I NEED PART 2. I was actually getting into this one.
Where did you get that awesome PC mat (black and blue mat with unit measurement that is)?
Steve you don't actually use the fresh silicone adhesive to keep the heat spreader attached?
Have you considered sending TIM samples from delidding CPU's and from doing AIO conversions to graphics cards to a lab to be analyzed for chemical compisition?
man I just love these videos!
1:48 that's some hair magic voodoo right there xD
8:40 I got ya back steve, PEMDAS
If you want an easier time off cleaning old thermal paste, etc., try using MG Chemicals Safety Wash II or Chemtronics Electro-WasH PX. I've found those quite useful in that regard.
his hair tied itself, its magic!
Is the audio glitch at 0:55 intentional?
10:250 -10:30 "It'll just electrically short, and fail to poot"
Heat it up n use floss or twill type string n slice or saw motion work?
Can you do direct die cooling tests please?
Thanks Great video!
how are the pins fine on that cpu? you were rubbing it on your mat.
If all the pins are in contact then you likely won't bend them without a lot of force
You bend them by point loading 1 or 2 pins
How are the pins not bending? Or do you need more force than that?
Way more force.
If you are applying force to all the pins simultaneously, it probably takes more force than you are capable of generating without a tool, if you apply force to a single pin perpendicular to the direction it stands then you encounter a risk of bending, but it is still much harder to bend than lga pins, because the pins are thicker and the way they are oriented makes it hard to apply force in the direction needed.
We'll just going to try heat this thing up in the test bench and cut it open with a razer. Segways straight into the shaving commercial. Steven don't tell me the whole dilliding thing was just to push Dollar Shave Club razers.
If you did this again you should get a loose am4 socket thats not in a motherboard and put it in that socket to keep the pins protected, that way man handling it is less likely to damage it.
damn when you were moving it sideways on the mat. I was so worried about the pins but apparently they dont bend as easily as I expected them to
It just dawned on me that a skilled hairdresser could turn Steve's hair into a living replica of the hairstyle in use by the men in Final Fantasy XV.
Please also overclock the apu as far as you can take it, check if delidding prevents it to go above 90c
Would it be easier to cut the slicone before heating the chip?
i was about to ask isnt nail polish going insulate/trap heat, but then realized the heatspreader isnt touching it, nor is any air
Dat post speaker. Had to rewind the video to make sure it was not my computer again :D
is canned air better in bursts or sustained?
I want you guys to compare AIOs vs air coolers. 360, 280, 240mm etc. vs a plethora of air coolers from the monstrous NH-D15s, Le Grand Macho RTs, to the midrange NH-U14s, True Spirit 140 Power, Mugen 5, etc, and of course cheaper air coolers.
Do it with a delidded CPUs so the thermal transfer bottleneck is moved to the cooler! Do all the fancy comparisons besides just temperatures too - cooling when noise normalized to 40DB, noise at full RPM, etc all the stuff you usually do.
can you use liquid metal on a copper heatsink;laptop lets say?
Razamadaz yes for copper no for alum
@Gamers Nexus How much more do you think it would have cost AMD to solder the IHS? I think it is really unfortunate that the went with a thermal compound instead of soldering. I really dislike thermal compound under the IHS and that solely is the only reason why I did not get the I7 8700k and instead will get the Zen+ version of R5 1600 or R7 1700.
I am not sure of the r3 and r5 4 core varient of Zen 2 but it's most likely will be soldered same as 1st generation.
so because this is a PGA chip and there's no mounting pressure on the IHS to keep it in place, does that mean one could do direct die cooling again? (asking for a friend)
I really, really hope that AMD will use solder (again) on the 2nd gen Ryzen 7 chips.
So, Ryzen cpu is soldered, but the Ryzen APU's uses tim?
Moonraker amd apu-s always used tim
*some* APU's in the past used TIM, not all
1:47 did you tie your hair back in case of fire? lol
Hey Steve, what the huge mouse pad thing called that's on your desk? Can you please post a link for it? Thanks.
Edit: nevermind, it's your mod mat, I just saw your plug during the video lol
Did that end up being too much LM? If not then after watching you do it I feel like I put too little on my Intel chip - barely enough to evenly coat the surface and make it shiny.
did you notice only 1 fan on your water cooler kicked on?
Anyone have a link to the proper nail polish for protecting the delidded chip?
Is part 2 up yet?
WE'LL BE BACK WITH A SECOND VIDEO?! FML!!!!!!!11111111111
Although you guys probably already did your testing by now, could you see how changing the amount of reserved ram the iGPU can use affects its performance. Also, if using these APUs with 8 GB of RAM affects other things, like RAM heavy games (ex. Rise of the Tomb Raider), because you no longer have 8 GB for CPU?
how much more would it cost per chip if they were solderd? more then 10 usd?
Though I would never do that my self it is interesting to watch. It's like microchip surgery. Also could we see if the liquid metal spills over after it gets used a bit? I m curious to see if the liquid metal stayed in place after heating.
Yes the liquid metal stays in place through surface pressure, If it spilled over the sides in use it would short the chip.
I was worried about bending the pins on my apu but this reassures its almost impossible if your careful
Fyi a decent heat gun at home depot is about $20, in the paint department. But those things get to like 1100° F.
I don’t see who would do this with a $100 apu, but good to know the results I guess.
I like the way how put ads on this channel. Not in brazen way.
But what is more important. Channel do good content, withou BS.
BTW. For deliding, I'm using vice, hair dryer, and aluminium tape.
What if someone runs those chips on thermal paste for many years will there be a problem i mean time to change it?
No issues, AMD and Intel's pastes aren't known for suddenly vanishing after a few years.
Thermal paste? UNDER THE IHS?
BRB grabbing torchfork.
At least with the extrusion on the IHS, at least amd is trying to give it the best chance of cooling with thermal paste. And so far, its been a lot better paste it seems then intels tim.
How’d you not bend any pins?
i want part 2 now. didy mow. dilly dilly
no time for dilly dally
In addition to dollar shave club you should advertise all the products it takes to take care of your hair.
Weird, not showing in my feed for some reason. Is video set to hidden or something?
Finally shows up on mine.
How does it perform for media playback and emulation
IHS Thiccness LOL 😂👌🏻
2:03 OMFG THE PINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i bought some electrical liquid tape.. would that work ? or is it too thick and can insulate it.
There is TIM already there, if you aren't using something much more conductive then you shouldn't void your warranty =)
Ben Grogan I meant when applying liquid metal, to prevent shorting is liquid tape a good alternative instead of the nail polish he uses.
I can see no reason It wouldn't be usable off the top of my head - Seems PTFE based and insulating, Depending on how elastic it is when set it could have the same issues he raised with silicon in the last Ask GN: Namely he prefers nail polish to avoid risking pulling components off the substrate if he ever has to redo it.
Also dependant on temps, the die itself could still reach 80+ degrees as a possible, you want to check flamability
Ben Grogan is it easy to remove? It seems like it would be harder to remove than liquid tape is. I am not a female so I've never used nail polish. Lol.
Nail polish is a hard finish but dissolves in isopropyl alcohol which you are already cleaning the die with: Worst case scenario a very soft brush.
As I said I have no experience with the liquid tape to know it's consistency, but if it's elastic like silicone, meaning you are peeling it off rather than dissolving it - it could strip microcomponents from the substrate
0:55 What went on there?
Wow that was quick! Thanks Steve. I really hope the high end parts will NOT have that TIM crap.... AMD? Can you hear that? PLEASE DO NOT!
7:27 when PTSD kicks in
How are the pins not mangled like a car wreck I see them sliding across the mat.
Realistically, how much would there be actual cost saving per part for going TIM rather than solder? 2-3 usd? IMO, not really worth it.
Going to check your the other site/channel you mentioned as I do speak Russian ;) Thanks!
Do this on a 2400g, liquid metal/delid/custom ihs/liquid nitrogen cooling/ amazing oc
Huh, so you know guys from PRO Hi-Tech, I find them pretty good too.
lol, delidded already! I am a strong critic of the tim on intels higher end chips, i'm ok with it on 2200g
Part 2 never comes.....
Patience!
12:13 Nexusgasm
It sounds like GN needs to purchase their AMD products now instead of receiving review samples. It think it had something to do with their RX Vega coverage, but I couldn't find a reliable source. I need a captain, please!
Is it because of the NDA about the Threadripper temps?
does anyone know if X79 chips are soldered or are they glued?
Glitch Gaming they are soldered..... Intel Just started using toothpaste on X299's and Z170's processor.... IMHO
thank you, do you know if the same goes for engineering samples?
Glitch Gaming probably, yes.....
Glitch Gaming x79 is soldered
Karras Bastomi No start with Z77 (i7 3770k) on Mainstream
And start x299 Like you say on Xtreme