Good morning from Brazil. Thanks for the class. For decades here, the .32 was widely used, today it has simply disappeared from the weapons market. But we used more revolvers, it took a long time, It took a long time for semi-automatic pistols to be accepted by Brazilians. Thanks for the work
Here in Germany it was the main and by far the dominant police caliber for about 80 years - as it was in almost every other european country . Here it was replaced in the mid 80ties by the 9x19. It was used with a 71 to 75grain fmj only. No hollow points. Loaded to between 950 and 1050 fps from a PP sized pistol..
Early European pistols in 7.65mm used a .312 diameter projectile. Modern manufactured 32acp ammo uses a .308 diameter projectile. I had to reload used brass with Hornady .312 projectiles to get my Mauser 1914 pistol to shoot accurately @ a 25 yard target. However those reloads would not chamber in my Walther PP made in West Germany in 1970. I had to use the factory ammo with the .308 projectile in that at 10 to 15 yards to get substandard accuracy. I had to do the same for my Colt 1903.
A .32 auto pistol paired with a knife or sharpened spade and a bread bag full of grenades was the preferred loadout for a lot of trench raiders on both sides of “no-mans land” during WWI.
Your foot pound numbers for the 32 ACP are incorrect. I believe those may be closer to the numbers for 380. According to "Cartridges of the World, the 32 ACP produces 100-129 foot pounds. Also, the 32 was not nudged out by the 9mm, but rather by the 380.
No Country for Old Bulls... how has the greener's humane cattle killer not made it in horror flicks or video games!?! So glad to have a new installment in the brief history series, thanks! The two cameras was a little distracting, think it would be ok if you spent longer looking in camera 2, but great video regardless 😊
The PP and PPK were the dominant police pistols until the early 1970s. In the 1950s the Bundeswehr purchased PPK/L in .32 ACP for Luftwaffe pilots. The L version had a frame made of Duralumin, an aluminium alloy, so the weight was reduced to 480g instead of 590g of the original version. Even during WW2 high ranking officers had still small and lightweight pistols in calibers like .32 or even .25 ACP instead of bulky 9mm pistols. Other European countries also used the .32 pistols in police service until the 1970s, some even until the 80s. And something that should not be underestimated is the barrel length. Even the shorter barrel of the PPK cost you 10% of muzzle energy, compared to the PP. And that for a cartridge that is not that powerful from the start.
I like your presentation. In addtion the the .32 losing popularity to the 9mm, I would add the .380. The .380 was introduced as a direct competeter to the .32 in 1908, and most companies that made .32 guns made .380 versons as well. However, you could argue that the .380 is also a 9mm. It is known as the 9mm Kurz (9mm Short) in Europe, and you never specifed that your were talking about the 9x19mm Parabellum instead of the 9x17 Browning (.380), although that is what most peope would assume. The .32 was popular with many police and miltary units in Europe in the early 20th century. Most migrated to the .380 by mid 20th century and continued to use it until recently. Probably most use the 9x19mm Parabellum now.
To me, the .32Cal, is JUNK as is the .25cal. Now:> in comparison, the .22 Cal............goes with MUCH more speed......./ Plus the "COST" of .32 cal Bullets. WOW? For the power...? Really?
Out of a rifle, sure the .22 does blow .25 out of the water. But out of a pistol with a similar length barrel? The two cartridges become about equal in foot pounds of energy. Sure, the .22 is more common these days and thus much cheaper. But being centerfire, the .25 will always be more reliable in its primer ignition when compared to the .22 rimfire primer. So your mileage will vary according to what you prioritize if you stoop to using either of these anemic cartridges for self defense. As for the .32, the energy it can get out of a pistol about equals the energy that a .22 can out of a rifle. Sure, it's slower, but the heavier bullet makes up the difference in energy. .32 ACP isn't by any means my first choice. A 9mm or even a .380 is obviously better. At the same time, being able to put something in your pocket that can ballistically compete with full size Ruger 10/22 is not too shabby in my opinion.
Kel-Tec P32 is amazing.
Good morning from Brazil. Thanks for the class. For decades here, the .32 was widely used, today it has simply disappeared from the weapons market. But we used more revolvers, it took a long time, It took a long time for semi-automatic pistols to be accepted by Brazilians. Thanks for the work
the Walther ppk in .32 acp is BACK!
Here in Germany it was the main and by far the dominant police caliber for about 80 years - as it was in almost every other european country . Here it was replaced in the mid 80ties by the 9x19.
It was used with a 71 to 75grain fmj only. No hollow points.
Loaded to between 950 and 1050 fps from a PP sized pistol..
good info.
Than you for the brief history lesson. I knew the .32 was common at one time, but never knew it that widely used that globally.
Early European pistols in 7.65mm used a .312 diameter projectile. Modern manufactured 32acp ammo uses a .308 diameter projectile. I had to reload used brass with Hornady .312 projectiles to get my Mauser 1914 pistol to shoot accurately @ a 25 yard target. However those reloads would not chamber in my Walther PP made in West Germany in 1970. I had to use the factory ammo with the .308 projectile in that at 10 to 15 yards to get substandard accuracy. I had to do the same for my Colt 1903.
I chuckled so much when you said….heheh….. PP 😆 and….. duty 😂
Great information 👍
I have three, a PPK, a CZ 27 and a Targa GT32. The first two use the old (80's) Silvertips, the Targa only deals with FMJ.
A .32 auto pistol paired with a knife or sharpened spade and a bread bag full of grenades was the preferred loadout for a lot of trench raiders on both sides of “no-mans land” during WWI.
Walther just restarted it's .32acp production in the PPK and PPK/S product lines
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"Like a brick through a plate glass window." Really tempted by this one.
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Been trying like hell to find it in black 😅
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I love my Beretta tomcat and model 81.🤔😺
Your foot pound numbers for the 32 ACP are incorrect. I believe those may be closer to the numbers for 380. According to "Cartridges of the World, the 32 ACP produces 100-129 foot pounds. Also, the 32 was not nudged out by the 9mm, but rather by the 380.
No Country for Old Bulls... how has the greener's humane cattle killer not made it in horror flicks or video games!?!
So glad to have a new installment in the brief history series, thanks!
The two cameras was a little distracting, think it would be ok if you spent longer looking in camera 2, but great video regardless 😊
The PP and PPK were the dominant police pistols until the early 1970s. In the 1950s the Bundeswehr purchased PPK/L in .32 ACP for Luftwaffe pilots. The L version had a frame made of Duralumin, an aluminium alloy, so the weight was reduced to 480g instead of 590g of the original version.
Even during WW2 high ranking officers had still small and lightweight pistols in calibers like .32 or even .25 ACP instead of bulky 9mm pistols.
Other European countries also used the .32 pistols in police service until the 1970s, some even until the 80s.
And something that should not be underestimated is the barrel length. Even the shorter barrel of the PPK cost you 10% of muzzle energy, compared to the PP. And that for a cartridge that is not that powerful from the start.
Very nice info.
I like your presentation. In addtion the the .32 losing popularity to the 9mm, I would add the .380. The .380 was introduced as a direct competeter to the .32 in 1908, and most companies that made .32 guns made .380 versons as well. However, you could argue that the .380 is also a 9mm. It is known as the 9mm Kurz (9mm Short) in Europe, and you never specifed that your were talking about the 9x19mm Parabellum instead of the 9x17 Browning (.380), although that is what most peope would assume. The .32 was popular with many police and miltary units in Europe in the early 20th century. Most migrated to the .380 by mid 20th century and continued to use it until recently. Probably most use the 9x19mm Parabellum now.
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.32 ACP is a 7.65mm; it is a 7.62 mm.
Beretta 30x is replacing the Tomcat.
Me and my homies carry Colt 1903 pocket hammerless.
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With the micro 380s like the LCP Max and Bodyguard and the new technology in 380 ammo, the 32 is obsolete.
To me, the .32Cal, is JUNK as is the .25cal. Now:> in comparison, the .22 Cal............goes with MUCH more speed......./ Plus the "COST" of .32 cal Bullets. WOW? For the power...? Really?
Out of a rifle, sure the .22 does blow .25 out of the water. But out of a pistol with a similar length barrel? The two cartridges become about equal in foot pounds of energy. Sure, the .22 is more common these days and thus much cheaper. But being centerfire, the .25 will always be more reliable in its primer ignition when compared to the .22 rimfire primer. So your mileage will vary according to what you prioritize if you stoop to using either of these anemic cartridges for self defense. As for the .32, the energy it can get out of a pistol about equals the energy that a .22 can out of a rifle. Sure, it's slower, but the heavier bullet makes up the difference in energy. .32 ACP isn't by any means my first choice. A 9mm or even a .380 is obviously better. At the same time, being able to put something in your pocket that can ballistically compete with full size Ruger 10/22 is not too shabby in my opinion.
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