KELTEC P32...IS BEING TINY GOOD ENOUGH FOR CARRY?
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- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
- In this video, we will be be discussing the KELTEC P32 CHAMBERED IN .32 ACP. We will compare this model to other types of carry guns in similar category to help establish considerations for comfort while carrying. The features will be detailed and we will discuss how these different features might have value to the owner. A brief overview of range performance will be presented along with a summary of the carry experience with regards to holster selection and coverall comfort. In closing. we will present overall impressions of the firearm as a carry option. Thanks for watching!
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The P32 is on its own in its hyper-specific niche and it does it really, really well.
Got mine in 2011 to back up my PF9, which I had acquired a year earlier.
Every time I handle the P32, I'm still impressed with both what it is and what it started.
I own the original version of the P32 and the newer version too. I have never had any issues with mine and one of them is with me almost everyday. I routinely practice with both of them from 5 to 10 yards and I have never experienced any tumbling or key holing but I don't ever shoot Winchester 22 lr, 32 auto or 380 which from experience is some of the worst ammo currently available. PMC and Fiocchi full metal jacket is what my P32s like. I see zero reason to shoot hollow points out of these pocket pistols both for lack of penetration and for possible rim lock due to hollow points being shorter than full metal jacket in general. I can almost get a two finger grip on mine with the flush magazine. Pearce makes magazine grip extensions that fit on the Beretta Tomcat and the Keltec P32. Three good things besides the weight and smooth trigger on the P32 compared to the Tomcat are the Keltec won't give you slide bite, its frame won't crack (two of my Tomcats developed cracked frames and I was using Beretta recommended ammo) and the Keltec is way less expensive than the Tomcat. I paid less than $300 for a new one. The bad thing about the P32 is finding one for sale. Keltec does not make many of them.
Kel-Tec used to make a 10 round magazine for it, for an extended fit, but they are no longer available.
Absolutely a great gun. A buddy has had one since early 2000’s. I have had one for many years. Absolutely no issues.
Yes, it is truly a defensive firearm. But it’s one that can always be carried. Some people carry pocket knife’s that are larger and heavier.
Keltec - if reading - I have multiple of your products. Know it would be a tough re-design but my opinion is a “double stack” P32 would be huge! Massive product differentiation.
A double stack 32acp would sell like hot cakes , make it stout , so it can shoot Underwood ammo and you would have the ultimate pocket pistol
its not a hard redesign you literally just change up the frame and some cuts in the slide and maybe the feed ramp so the thing can accept vz.61 mags. what's hard is getting the tolerances right so it feeds reliably. design is always the easiest part.
@@magicschoolbuscarlos the mags would be the toughest design but if they could use am already existing design, that would be great
P32 fires every time. Never had an issue. Beretta Tomcat, 6 to 5 and pick 'em on whether it will fire or not. Had to get rid of it.
I love my p32..never gettin rid of it
If you are pocket carrying, nothing else should be in that pocket, in my opinion.
Good answer.
I discovered this little gem 6 months ago. It has replaced my LCP as my pocket carry piece. Got one for under $300.
Before the video even begins, let me say this as a P-32 & P-3AT owner...8 rounds of .32 ACP, or 7 rounds of .380 ACP in a Sub-9 Oz. gun beats EVERY other pistol's capacity : weight ratio.
@@wizkaqueefa9003 You failed to mention the Bodyguard 2.0. 9.8 oz with a 10 round capacity and the trigger is actually good.
@@Sig_P229 Nobody could even get a bodyguard 2.0 until now months after release. The 2nd Bodyguard will have terrible rusting issues & poor long term reliability just like the 1st bodyguard.
I have this gun, never had an issue, that being said. I know it's limitations. I'm not getting into a shoot out, I'm just trying to get distance and making the threat uncomfortable at that moment.
@@grdndsjr Not just making the threat "uncomfortable", .32 ACP & .380 ACP have been putting people 6 feet under since before the 2 world wars.
@@wizkaqueefa9003wrong. I have two. FLAWLESS
The Underwood Xtreme Defender cartridge has very good terminal ballistics and makes it a legitimate defensive round.
I used to carry the Underwood “Extreme Cavitators” 32acp in my Seacamp and they were reliable and an absolutely wicked little round! I sold it though years ago….i just seen P32s back in stock online for the first time in years so I ordered one! 👍🏻 Sad no mags but pro mags anywhere though. 🤷♂️
@@michigunsanta8680 I wish I could still find those extreme cavitators. It seems Underwood discontinued them, at least in .32 ACP, they're sold out/unavailable everywhere online.
@@michigunsanta8680Those .32 ACP extreme cavitators have been discontinued by Underwood, they're unavailable everywhere I look online.
@@michigunsanta8680 Those are discontinued, no? Can't find them anywhere.
I have located the some Cavitator projectiles for reloading in a couple of searches, but not in .32 ACP. It does not appear the Xtreme Cavitator ammo is still in production.
I always liked that gun. I also like the .32 acp. I owned a Tomcat. Fat & heavy, but Beretta. For two arm’s length, it’s doable. Today’s prices I can find a Ruger LCP for $199. The Keltec is also the gun that the LCP kinda took the spotlight from.
Can’t find these guns anywhere. Found two but they demanded an insane premium. Awesome video.
The standard grip is a two finger length for me. The extended 10 round mag makes it a full three finger grip for improved stability and recoil control.
I've had my Kel-Tec 32 for 10 years now I put on the belt clip and also I put on the side laser which I have a zeroed in at 12 yards and I too carry the 10 round magazine with the extended round making it 11 round and One in the Chamber so I have a 12 pack
@@mikebe41Wait, there's a +1 extension for the 10 round P-32 magazine to make it 11 rounds? Why have I never seen it anywhere online or in real life?
@@mikebe41What brand is the +1 extension?
I carry one of these as the backup to the slam-fire 12ga bong i built out of pipes I stole from the local abandoned mall. Support local manufacturers!
Close range only? I just watched a video from Buffalo something or other, consistently hitting a 10" target at different intervals out 45 yards with a P32.
I can concur that the further back you go the further left and up you got to aim
It is not an "internal" hammer. It is recessed, but it is exposed when fired.
@jackwoods535 There are handguns with fully internal hammers, but this is not one of them.
Always saw it as internal and the cut exposing it was moreso to see if the thing was cocked or not.
We just ordered this gun, expect delivery next week...our current carry is a .25 Jetfire, so we feel like we are bumping up a notch...our .38s just got too big and bulky for EDC, they now shine on HD duty...as seniors, we value small, lightweight, simplicity, and reliability, and this gun has those things...i'm already thinking buy ammo, lots of it, all fmj (sure, the ammo is a touch pricey, but our other calibers decently stocked at the moment, so I can splurge a bit)...good video...
No need for any of you to try. I already did the work for you! Tried carrying my 1911A1 at the beach. Was in danger of exposing more of me than people would care to see. This little pistol- no problem.
The smaller triggerguard is a safety feature, making it less likely that a finger might inadvertently touch the trigger.
I have never had rounds tumble from the P32 even at 25 yards.
Doubt it would tumble even at 400yds.
Yeah, he said he noticed that when he first shot the caliber, which was when he was "much younger".
I don't know when that was, but it's quite possible that the gun was a Davis or Lorcin.
I’m not going to act like Kel Tec is perfect but they do make some cool stuff! I have a p32 which Carrie’s so easily and am RFB which is very cool! I haven’t had issues with mine but I know that isn’t the case with everyone!
I have owned many Kel Tec’s for almost 25 years now. Both handguns and long guns. I only had problems with one of them that they don’t make anymore. Other than that one, they all have been reliable. KT produces the most innovative firearms that are unique and functional. They think “out of the box” when designing their firearms. KT’s are all designed with weight and size in mind and therefore get a bad rap for feeling and looking cheap. If they were so bad why do so many people buy them? Also, their customer service is very good.
The P32 is designed for contact (arms length) distance fights. It is better than using fists but not as good as a knife. The P32 is extremely small and very easy to carry and much thinner and lighter than the authors’ Beretta. It is a minimalist pistol shooting a minimalist bullet. This is a pistol that you carry when you can’t carry anything bigger I.e. jogging, wearing formal clothing, etc. It fits the old saying that the most important thing in a gunfight is to have a gun. Yes they are expensive because they are so popular. Try to go find one in a gun store.
32 ACP ammo isn’t easy to find and in a hollow point even harder. Being so small and low powered, an argument can be made that hollow point ammo is a waste of money and can lead to functioning uncertainty. FMJ ammo is better suited for this caliber as all you are try to do is to put holes in the bad guy and expanding 32 caliber bullets don’t really expand. Tumbling bullets are a result of being shot out of a very short barrel. Even if you have to shoot a bad guy 21 feet away (which is this pistols maximum distance) a tumbling bullet will still do damage.
I don’t own this model but have a P3-AT which is the same gun (very slightly larger) in .380 ACP. KT doesn’t make this gun anymore which is sad. It is still very small and light and shoots a more powerful bullet. I treasure mine.
You said that other than short range the bullet tumbles? Really…? I’ve studied this caliber for a while and this is the first I’ve heard of that kind of bullet behavior. Even in gel testing. Interesting phenomena!
Honestly the reviewer is totally ignorant about this firearm
I own two .. one is 22 years old , other is 10yrs old
Both Gen 1’s
I really can’t believe someone would actually review a firearm with zero experience about it
I carry it in summer, even gym shorts in slim holster. You don't even know it's there.
Don’t see why you keep saying you feel recoil so much to where you may only shoot one box of ammo at practice. I have smaller thin hands compared to you without a lot of meat section on them to absorb recoil, and I can shoot 3-4 boxes at a time at range and never experience a problem with recoil with the 32 cartridge in this gun that weighs only 6 ounces empty and 11 ounces loaded. Also I can stay inside a large coffee cup at 7 yards rapid fire with this gun because I don’t experience the recoil you speak of. It’s like a 22lr coming out of it to me.
What ammo do you use?
@@rickyjones1784 I mainly use Fiocchi 73 grain FMJ. It’s a hotter European round and zero malfunctions since I have had the two P-32s I have. Like shooting a 22lr to me. At 7-10 yards semi-rapid fire can keep all shots in a coffee cup size group.
I have been looking at the P32 for a while, but prices were crazy and it’s a bit hard to find. Well this summer I finally found one when I stopped in Scheels in the used gun display. Only wanted $325 for it so I got it. It’s everything I’d wanted. Number one was reliable. It has not had a malfunction yet, it just works. I like that it is so thin and light weight. I carry it all the time in my pocket and it prints like a cell phone and I don’t even notice it. I like that the trigger has a long consistent pull, you have to deliberately want to shoot the thing. But one thing is correct, it’s a close range gun. Further than 10 yards the bullet are scattering bigger an a man’s torso. It’s my everyday carry now.😊
im guessing you have baggy pockets? cause these things definitely print. but yeah these things are reliable af i mean they're built to looser tolerances with recycled beach plastic and they have fcgs to rival the ak in simplicity and reliability. toyota of guns, cheap n reliable
I EDC one. It disappears in a pocket.
I have a P32 with extended mag 7+1, lazer and
trigger shoe. Also the lightest and half the price of the other two. Hundreds of rounds no problems. Also have Seacamp which is smaller, better quality but heavier and no sights what’s so ever, and ammo must be certain brands hollow point. No Baretta as trigger pull was just too heavy in this gun. Baretta has new 30x model showing promise but at present the Kel-tec is the winner.
I carry my 2 in my hands , and I twirl them on my fingers.
I think it would be awesome if ruger made a max version of this they could probably make it 14+1
Two thoughts 1- the Keltec 32 and the 380 (P3AT) are essentially the same size and between the two I prefer the 380 with self-defense founds for protection over the two. Second, while the 380 is very functional for self-defense, it is not a fun handgun to shoot at the range (or anywhere else.)
When I was shopping for a deep-conceal piece in 2011, I did indeed compare the two. What won me over to the .32 were essentially three factors: higher capacity, both in the gun and in spare magazines, a last-shot slidelock, and a somewhat softer-shooting round that would help facilitate faster target re-acquisition and follow-up shots.
The softer-shooting P32 is more fun to practice with, and more practice is always better than more power.
p32 genuinely isnt great to shoot but as someone who has a pf9 yeah these things are much more controllable.
@@magicschoolbuscarlos
My P32 actually backs up my PF9. ;-)
Mine has the standard 6 round magazine I bought a one round adapter and carry One in the Chamber so now I have a total of 8 I bought the add-on clip so I can clip onto my belt as well as the laser sight and I'm good to go
P32 had a 6rd mag??
The standard magazine for the P32 holds seven rounds. With a gun this limited in potential effectiveness, you should be loading your magazine fully.
@mikebe41 Are u sure u have a P32? They don't have a 6 round magazine for them. If u can only get 6 in...there's something wrong with that magazine.
@@markedman3990 probably a P3AT
@@Just1American1966 correct
I have this gun as well as the Ruger LCP (original). I feel once the LCP came out, there was no need for the P32.
Thank you !!!
I take a 32 over 380 any day
Why?
@@chriszeis5477Because ballistically neither penetrates past the 12" minimum standard unless you use FMJs, nor do they give an impressive wound tract, so might as well have 1 extra round & less recoil.
@@wizkaqueefa9003 There’s a few .380 HP loads that expand as well and penetrate past 12”.
@@Hornet135 Same with .32 ACP. Federal just released Hydra Shok Deep 68-grain .32 ACP
Need to check out 380 Lehigh Extreme Defender and Underwood exteme defender. The wound channel is very large and well within FBI ballistic range. Underwood xteme penetrator will give you around 30 inches in jell.
The P32 is my carry in house gun.
Had one for years. Always ran well. Did have a magazine baseplate break. Dumping the rounds in my pocket. Kel-Tec sent a replacement plate fast. Just traded it off towards a S&W 642pc
I had a ppks in 32 ACP. It was fine little piece. Never had any problems with the rounds either. Would it kill or defend yourself? Not sure. 8 rounds of bang. It was heavy for a little 32 but not too heavy. It was a cool gun for 400 bucks I paid for it 30 years back . The new smith and Wesson ppks are prorkey. Even in 380 I feel the gun is too heavy and expensive for suck an ancient design.
I think the Tom cat might be the way to go for this package as a fun little gun. I would keep a Ruger max with 12 round mags in 380 for a pocket gun. Or a small revolver.
Ruger max better gun for 360 dollars
the .32 is rated with the same lethality as the 9mm by the fbi.
I carry mine when I really need something thin that will disappear under light clothing. Yes, the sites are pretty terrible, and the trigger is long and takes practice. However, with practice solid center mass shots can be made reliably and very quickly & easily out to 10 yards especially when an ArmaLaser TR1 is attached such as on mine. I have not had keyholing problems with my gun. I see no signs of the bullet tumbling or in any way becoming unstable on targets I've shot out to 25 yards. I also have a Ruger LCPII 380 but the KelTec is so much thinner and lighter that many times the P32 get carried. While I have seen some problems with KelTec firearms over the years (every company has them occasionally) the P32very rarely has any issues and mine has been 100% reliable with several different loads. You do have to shoot ammo that fills the magazine front to back. The 32 ACP is a semi rimmed cartridge so it can rim lock causing a malfunction if the rounds are short thereby allowing the rounds to slide in the mag from movement both while caried and during recoil.
The gun rides very well in a pocket holster, inside the waist with a thin holster and ankle holster (as a back up)
I have owned and carried a first gen P32 for 24 years and I agree with your assessment. I have had rim lock twice and both times were my fault for not being careful while loading the mag. Rapidly slamming rounds into the mag can result pushing a top round over the rim of the lower cartridge. I learned early with the P32 to insert the rounds gently until the rim just slips into the notch in front of the rim of the lower round. I have not had a rim lock in 20 years.
This is so small! I love my 360pd tho
How many times did he say ( You Know ) ???
Is that Chad?
Seecamp 380
$360.00?! hard pass.
Nah that number is straight off the kel tec website. Way cheaper at the gun shop
On Gunbroker they go for $160-$330 price range new or used.
They're available now at a much lower price.
they're cheaper if you just buy the steel straight up and do all the machining yourself.
Discontinued I believe.
They're not discontinued. They're just being made in extremely small batches/quantities. The .380 ACP version (P3AT) WAS discontinued, however.
We just bought one, should be delivered next week...NIB, and i've got to start buying ammo for it...we are aware of the pros and cons both of the gun and the caliber, but the over-riding consideration for us is size and weight...we're seniors, and the current carry is a Beretta Jetfire .25, so we feel like we are bumping up a notch...our .380s are either snappy or a little big, so we expect this gun to be a happy medium...
@@JohnPublic-dk7zd It should be a happy medium. The KelTec uses standard Browning recoil operation like that in Glocks/1911s (less recoil) while almost all .25 ACP pistols are straight blowback.
If you mention the finger thing again.,,.........