Keltec PMR30 Review - Gold or Garbage? .22 Magnum .22WMR
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I just took my PMR30 to the range for the first time today. I started by shooting the recommended CCI Maximag 40 grain for about the first 50 rounds. The 40 grain ammo worked flawlessly so I switched to Hornady 30 grain vmax ammo. Even the 30 grain ammo ran flawlessly. I might add that before firing the pistol. I field stripped, cleaned and lubed my PMR30. Maybe that contributed to my success with the pistol. A friend shooting in the bay next to me commented on how loud the pistol is.
They just seem to be hit or miss- some peolpe get a good one and others don't. .22wmr has a pretty stout muzzle report and flash due to all the unburnt powder from that rifle round comming out the short barrel. I shot some from a 2" barrel once and it was like a bomb going off in front of my face...
Guess I got a good one, bought mine about a month ago, no misfeeds or jams. I loaded my mags correctly according to company specs and have fired about 200 rounds and no malfunctions. I disassembled my mags and cleaned and lubed them. Even before doing this with my mags, my PMR30 ran flawlessly.
You're that lucky guy I was talking about 😅
It is simple if you read the FUCKING MANUAL.
@@timothycash9577 @Mit - You could try watching the video next time before you talk shit
Same here .. nada an issue .. I see forum guys dump mcarbo parts in em to get em to run a mag .. I'm like wtf... mines been awesome since day I got it .. ran 200 RDS today not hiccups per usual ran 30 cci tnt ..winchest 30 gr .. Hornady crit defense , cci 40 gr .. rem 33 gr.. now my other pmr 30 is like the one in the vid.. can't tell any discernable did between both pmrs... one just flat out runs n other is a dog even with mcarbo parts factory installed at kel... lottery like results lol
Definitely no soft points in this gun. Because you’re using a modified gun, it’s hard to perform a realistic review. My PMR 30 runs almost excellent with the recommended CCI mag ammo. One more thing recommend is tapping the back of the magazine every four or five loads. I had the luxury of watching many RUclips videos and learning about about the pistol before using it. So I do appreciate your channel and sharing the information. However, brand new gun out of the box, no aftermarket upgrades, correct bullets, and proper loading the mags and you should be in good shape.
Mine works flawlessly. I use the Hornady Critial Defense 45gr ammo. I have this Lula device that makes loading the magazines easy, and correctly. I also have the carbine version that uses the same magazines. I about loading the magazines correctly, and I think most people that have issues do not pay enough attention to the process. I have gone to the range with someone else that owns on, and he called it a jambomatic. I ran 3 magazines I loaded through it, and had zero issues.
I had no issues except once which was my mistake (rimlock), ran 1,400 to 1,500 rounds with bullets weights from 30 gr to 50 gr. NO upgrades or modifications.
Pro tip: Many Keltec firearms need a few hundred round break in before they will run reliably. I've had the P3AT, PF-9, multiple Sub2000s, SU-16, CMR-30 and I'm on my 3rd PMR-30. One of the Sub2Ks needed a couple hundred round break in and the CMR/PMR magazines almost always need breaking in. Load them to 20rds first and later 25, shoot American made 40gr ammo that is not Winchester. After a few hundred rounds you can try running 30 in the mag but I just always load mine to 25 because it is exactly half a box of ammo and makes for a more consistent loading and shooting experience.
With no modifications my PMR 30 has been 100% with one exception because I rim locked the ammo, I lost count after 2,000 rounds. Shot 30 gr to 50 gr bullets with no issues.
The constant movement of the camera is enough to induce seasickness.
I picked up one of these just months ago. It's bone stock and eats EVERYTHING I feed it. I have not tried soft points. I did however try 40 grain, 35 grain, and even 30 grain, and zero issues. about 500 rounds through it so far.
I'm glad you got a good one...
I bought one and it Jamed no matter what I ran through it. Finally, I sent it back as defective and KelTek fixed it. Works fine and I like the pistol.Pretty cool having a 30 round Magazine.
I just picked one up out of the box an ran 100 rounds of Hornsby 40 G and 100 rounds of cc mag 40 grain ,,ran like a champ ,,no malfunctions
The gun will run flawlessly as long as you...a.) Load the mags correctly. b.) Use 40grain or above ammo. Every person I've encountered that had problems with the pmr 30 or the cmr 30 was because of one of these two things I mentioned above.
Oh, is that so? Yeah we covered that in the video, try to pay attention next time...
@@BuckeyeBallistics actually you half-assed covered it which is I why re-covered it for you. You're Welcome.
I showed in the video exactly how to load it properly and stated that 40gr or heavier is supposed to better. There's no half assing about that, pretty cut and dry and to the point. You're just running your mouth trying to save face. Put out a better video, because it doesn't take any skill to run your mouth on the internet...
have run nothing except the maxi mag tnt 30grain ever since day 1 as that was all the shell shop had on hand, after over 350 rounds i have yet to have even 1 problem.
C) And see save a few extra bucks and get a good quality gun and not this plastic budget made trash
Mine had lots of failures to feed and failures to eject. I had the dealer I purchased it from send it back to Kel Tec. Since I got it back it has been very reliable (provided the magazines are loaded properly). I tried several different speed loaders, but what seems to work best for me is to carefully hand load the magazine, tapping the back of it against the table every 4 or 5 rounds. I just need to show patience because it takes a while to load 30 rounds that way.
Thanks for sharing your experience, especially since it doesn't include blaming my opertation of the gun in any way. Everybody that got a good one likes to come on here and tell me how I'm the problem, which is laughable considering I literally make a living shooting guns- even more so considering I covered everything in the video *including* how Keltec themselves say to load it...
WAS recently at the range with my new PMR 30. The only thing that was done prior to shooting was thoroughly cleaning the gun and lubing it. I shot 600 rounds using 4 magazines & various ammo types of different manufacturers. I loaded four magazines with the ludex speedloader and did not condition the ammo during the loading process as per kel-tecs recommendation. The only pause in shooting came from either loading another mag or stopping to reload all the mags which took a bit of time. I had a total of five failures: 4 failed to eject and a single failed to feed for a whopping 0.0083 percent failure rate. YES I'M VERY SATISFIED WITH THE PERFORMANCE OF THIS 22 MAG SEMI AUTO.
.0083% for * yours * - happy for you that you got a good one...
My pops always said if you see something for sale 'used' you are buying someone else's problems. I appreciate your video despite all the rumblings from those who've never had an issue with theirs. From what I gather, this would make a fun 'plinker' if nothing else but definitely NOT a personal defense carry. Had a chance to feel the lightness of one a buddy of mine bought and couldn't believe how feather light it was. I'm a Walther 22LR guy myself but the Kel Tec trigger wasn't bad. Best of luck and keep shooting straight.
Good advice...Exactly why I bought a new one instead of a used one 👍👍
If you want the PMR 30 to cycle, disassemble each magazine and put a drop of gun oil at each corner plus a drop in both alignment grooves. Works perfect
I DID THAT, STILL SUCKS 🤔
@@TheKasmir65sucks for you sucker
The most important thing is to make sure that you load the cartridges correctly and don't have any rim lock. Rim lock is the only real problem with rimfire cartridges in a clip.
The PMR 30 I had in Alaska ran flawlessly with all ammo I put threw it even handloads. I live in Texas now & a friend came over to test his in my backyard & no matter what we ran, we couldn't get 5 concectitive rounds out. Although, we tried this: after loading the magazine and inserting it, we racked two rounds out. It worked with the soft points rounds fairly well, but still had jams & lot of stovepipes with the FMJs. I really liked mine when I had it, but my friends newer one sucked. I still want another one but can't afford a POS one. Guess I got lucky with mine. On a side note, maybe, just maybe, temperature & humidity might have been a factor since Alaska & Texas varies tremendously on both. AWESOME VIDEO.
Mahalo
Please tell this to all the idiots on here commenting that it's because the mag isn't loaded right, even though I covered this issue in the video and did show how to properly load them. It really irritates me when some random person on the internet tells me I'm doing it wrong when I've been shooting for decades and have at least tenfold the experience of them...
Mr. Cars&guns: Man o man, I wish I could tell some of youngsters something. I'm in my 50s and newish to the internet & I've commented on very few videos because of the backlash from some very rude unknowledgeble youngsters intent on just starting trouble.
Please, let the haters words roll off you like water on a ducks ass. It will save you a lot of unnecessary stress.
Anyway, I really enjoyed your video please upload more & I will try and look at them at least once a week when I go on line.
Big Mahalo to you sir,
Aloha
You're 100% right, and I feel the same. Problem is, they aren't interested in listening. I learned that a while back and mostly ignore them these days- but I still hate seeing the ignorant comments.
I upload a couple times per week. Glad to have you aboard, and hope to see you around again. Mahalo.
you handload rimfire?
@@ronalddavis not me....I wish I had a press....my neighbor on Ester Dome hand loaded all his ammunition .
My PMR 30 is all stock and runs great as long as it is clean and oiled regularly, including the mags; as webhealth1 also stated. This gun likes 40 grain jacketed rounds, anything else is a crap-shoot. The factory installed feed ramp works just fine once it breaks in a bit, after the first couple mags ran through, it smoothed right out. It is however normal that the factory polymer feed ramp will wear out and need replaced, at that point it will be replaced with the stainless upgrade. I love this handgun and it's quite impressive being a .22 semi-auto. Well done Kel-Tec!!
The main thing I've noticed with mine is if you take the time to load the mags and get the rounds aligned nicely, there won't be any problems. Fun times plinking await you. 👍 If you're lazy and just wanna half-ass it, then enjoy your wasted time at the range. 🤷♂️ It's a fun plinker and the 22mag is a cool little round!
Yeah except I covered that in the video and loaded them properly...
@@BuckeyeBallistics ...and "I've noticed with mine" in my comment refers to my personal experience. Somebody else commented about theirs only working for five rounds, etc. I also mention that the PMR30 "is a fun plinker." I guess the part of the title "Gold or Garbage?" was a rhetorical question. Sorry for taking the time to watch your vid and commenting...
Wow, what a cry baby. The part where you say "If you're lazy and just wanna half-ass it, then enjoy your wasted time at the range" is the part I'm referring to, because that sentence is clearly directed at the rest of us and to *OUR* experience.
You can't come on here and cry and complain about a misunderstanding when the things you wrote are contradictory to your complaint. You *did* reference everyone elses experience in the sentence I quoted.
Also, I didn't even say anything rude in my reply. I simply stated a fact- a fact that you may not have known because I have no idea whether you skipped that part of the video or not. Crap like this is why youtubers eventually quit responding to their viewers...
🤣🤣🤣 you should probably stop responding before you stroke out. Once again, so sorry for interacting with your vid.
Don't worry, I'm not going to get bent out of shape over someone so transparent that they can't admit when they are wrong, so they "laugh" it off instead. If anything I am empathetic to your psychosis condition... or narcissism to be more exact.
The gold dot malf was caused by rim lock. With any rimmed case in a semi auto mag that's a concern. You have to make sure each and every consecutive round has the rim in front of the other, and sometimes they can jump each other. Hence why it's rare for a high cap rimmed rifle round. Think 7.62x54r Russian. The svd sure doesn't have a 30 rd mag. Great video.
Yeah I always wondered why nobody made high capacity .22wmr. When Keltec released this, I was super excited. Then seeing all the issues the pmr and cmr had, it kinda put it into perspective. I hear BCA makes a .22wmr upper- gotta get one of those to try out.
@@BuckeyeBallistics 32ACP suffers from the same issues, as does 30 super. Rimlock is a total nightmare in a self defense scenario.
They should have named it the Problem MR 30. I've come to the conclusion that if you hear a bump in the night do not grab a PMR 30 with MCarbo upgrades unless you plan to throw it in the corner as a distraction. My CMR30 on the other hand works great without the MCarbo upgrades. Go figure.
7 minutes in, and he's still disclaimering on the unreliability of the gun....naw I'ma pass
I guess the concept of the skip ahead button is lost by you- but then you'd be like the last guy who commented on this video asking me if anything was done to the gun because he skipped through it and missed where I mentioned numerous times that the gun had Mcarbo upgrades...
I have a few of the PMR-30’s and what I noticed (with all of them): CZ shipped all of them with “very generous” amounts of the gel that protects the internal parts during shipping from rust and other transport problems.
I did a very aggressive initial cleaning of each one before firing them - and I have had very few malfunctions with any of them.
Thanks for the review!!
I tried shooting two-year-old CCI ammo and they would not even come out of the magazine. I loaded a second magazine with brand new Winchester and it fired flawlessly all 25 rounds that I loaded. On closer inspection I found a very fine hue of tarnish on the CCI brass. I did wipe down the CCI brass with Nu-Polish and went back to the range and it all fired flawless. Conclusion… ANY tarnish or fingerprints on the brass do seem to make a difference in feeding and ejecting, keep your chamber and your ammo super clean and you should have no problem shooting your PMR-30.
Yeah I recommended to the owner that he lubricate the internals of the magazines to aid in feeding.
I have 2 PMR 30's. The first one I bought not to long after they came out. It had some feeding issues. I did some polishing of rough plastic parts and barrel feed ramp and it got much better, but it was never anything as bad as the issues your having..(glad I didn't buy the MCarbo stuff) my second PMR I bought about a year ago with no issues.
Thanks for sharing and solidifying for the naysayers that many of these are problematic...
Very good honest review, this guy tels it as it is. The pistol looks good but I would never buy one. Even with all the mods reliability was very poor. I have never been a fan of mods, if its not reliable out the box save your money and buy something better.
I had some issues with mine, but upgraded the ramp with the mcarbo stainless and got a mag loader...100 rounds thru it and had one stove pipe, but I think I limp wristed that one. Too bad you have to get the upgrade, but it does work fine after that
Well dressed for being on kind of national television Dude!
Owners fiddling with it have determined it is user error and the gun itself is fine.
The gun has no problems beyond breaking in like any other semiautomatic. The magazine is also fine though difficult to load those last few of 30 rounds due to spring pressure. So much so you have to careful not to dent the shell case.
The error is not strictly following the magazine loading instructions because you are loading rimmed cartridges in what most all semiautomatics use rimless cartridges.
First the rounds must be alternately loaded one to the right side and then to the left side, repeat for all 30 rounds.
Next as you load like the first 5 (7?) rounds you must tap the magazine against the palm of your hand to seat the rounds against the back of the magazine. Keep doing this until the last few rounds and then more often.
I want one of these.
Had a new PMR 30 blow up in my hand. The company stated they knew of a possible defect and were working to correct it. Funny they never put out a warning or recall. Took 3 months to get my money back from them. Kel-Tec is synonymous with JUNK. Get a Walther.
have the Walther wmp as well as 2 pmr 30s... one one is great one is horrid .. the wmp runs like a sewing machine but has the weight of a 9mm . it'll run any ammo I put thru er tho n a much better designed gun all around .. keltec should take some pointers
No problems with my PMR 30 or my CMR 30 using CCI Maxi Mags 40 grain . Both run great.
My PMR30 runs great with Hornady 30 gr. You must keep it lubed extremely well and load according to manufacture. I love it and would never sell it
I have had a pmr 30 for about 6 yrs. now and at first had issues until I hit around 300 rounds now it runs great have to really watch loading the mags even runs light grain bullets fine
Mine was a jamming machine till I bought the Lula loader it is flawless now. Will need better spring if red dot is used won’t cycle every time.
Because of everyone’s issues I added lube to the slide areas of the pistol. I have not had any issues running CCI Maxi Mag ammo.
I inherited one of these from my pops and had the fortune of getting to fire it before it was stolen in a burglary...😢 I will buy another one soon!
G&C's I always use a Maglula to load these mags . Never an issue , and affordable. Just watched gel test. Wanted to see crono Fps
Chrono was in the review video if you missed me stating that in this video. Usually I do it during the gel tests, but it just didn't work out that way this time (sorry).
They're definitely super cool looking.
I recently bought one from a friend who needed money. I gave $250 for it hopefully it’s decent, if not it’ll just be a project. I’m not really a rim fire guy but doesn’t hurt to have a few in the collection.
Best way to get rid of all the issues just do the same review with a Walther Magnum pistol
Getting one
I did the MCARBO upgrades to my daughter’s PMR 30, and it still has FTF issues. Might sell it and get her something reliable.
Try running it with tons of lube.
Mags too.
get er the Walther wmp is she is stuck on 22wmr.. by far it's better designed than the pmr althought it's prolly double the weight
Added optics would only be added reliability problems. Book says not shoot under 40 gr bullets
Dogs bark, birds fly, and Keltecs jam. It's what they do - it's why they are manufactured.
Nobody has commented on the fact that this handgun is sold for a lot less than most others of the same features... just bought mine for 383.00 and the M&P goes for 600.00 that makes a difference in the mind, get what you pay for!
They sell an upgraded feed ramp for that, plus a few other items it all comes in a kit
I guess you missed the part of the video where I said it has all that...
Its not ammo picky, but my suggestion is not to fill up the magazine with 30 rounds, use 25-20 to avoid jams
This is the best Kel-Tec 22mag pistol commercial …. Had one once……once
Should not have any issues when you buy a new firearm...with all these issues you think Keltec would fix these..I really want one of these and the cmr30 but cannot bring myself to it with all these problems.
Based on Outdoor Rec's video, by the time you get one of these to work right with aftermarket parts, you pretty much could've just bought a Ruger57 instead. I owned a FN 57 for many years, super fun gun and a heck of a lot more powerful. Ammo is not cheap though.
Unless you're one of the lucky ones and get a PMR that works. Like I said in the video though, if it were me, I would just keep sending it back to Keltec until they got me one that works. The 5.7 is on my wish list too...
@@BuckeyeBallistics I really like the Ruger 57, but I wish they hadn't made it a direct blowback. For that one reason, the FN57 is still a superior option. Which is a shame cause the Ruger's ergonomics are fantastic.
I would assume that's at least part of the reason that Rugers 5.7 is a lot more affordable...
@@BuckeyeBallistics Well that and the 'FN Tax.'
FN makes great guns but let's face it, they are wildly overpriced too. Which is a shame. The PS90 is a fantastic little PDW, but at $1600 and up it's not much more than a rich man's toy.
Keltec just realeased their P50 (PS/P90 competition) for a lot less. No idea how it runs though...
I guess this is one of those guns that nongun people should not buy. If you follow the directions. Clean and lube the gun before you start. Load the magazines correctly with 40grain ammo, prepare to enjoy. Mine was flawless even in break in. I had two failures the first 200 rds. These were caused by me releasing the mag accidently during fire (im ham fisted). Mine will shoot 30grain Hornaday v-max flawlessly. The pistol has a nice trigger is very light and a blast to shoot. I have 4 of these in my circle of friends, their experiences with this pistol are like mine. Buy It!
I know the issue the issue is the fact that they want to be easy on the rounds but also have to have enough Spring to pop the cap and 22short and 22 magnum are the hardest rounds to get this issue fixed with this is why most manufacturers won't even attempt to even make a pistol with these smallerrounds
Who loaded the mags?
Mine shot Great Right Out of the Box! I use only the Ammo that is recommended in the User Guide and I purchased a "LUDEX" Auto Loader from Amazon and this Works great with No Malfunctions at all! Just use 40 grain or higher, Premium Ammo and there should be No Malfunctions! This is a great firearm and not inherently problematic at all! Follow the guidelines in the user guide and if you do so and still have problems, then you have a Lemon! Maybe the problems bare related to the after market parts installed from Mcarbo! I don't believe in after marked parts and I think they are Not Necessary in a New Gun! I now have 4 Kel-Tec firearms and I have had No Issues with any of these and I have Stock Parts in them all! Great Guns by a Great Designer!
I think you need to pay better attention to the video before leaving remarks like this. I stated in the video that the owner installed the Mcarbo parts because the pistol ran like trash from the factory, and he did run 40 grain ammo by the way. The Mcarbo kit was quite literally designed to address all the *COMMON* issues PMR30 owners encountered with these pistols. It is common knowledge amongst the PMR30 community, and many PMR30 owners have installed the kit for this very reason and a lot of them swear by it as well. The gun *IS* notoriously problematic whether you want to accept that or not. There are probably tens of thousands of them out there that run great straight from the factory, but then there are also thousands that don't. Just because you got lucky and got a good one doesn't mean that what I cover in this video is untrue. Unlike you, I did my due dilligence and research before posting this video. Matter of fact, I have been researching this pistol for years because I really wanted one, and have waited years intentionally, still not purchasing one because I have been waiting on Keltec to resolve all the issues and release an updated version to resolve those issues which they never have. You come one here stating *your* experience- you are one single person. I speak for the entire community based on many hours of actual research and hard data. I honestly started filming this video expecting the gun to run great since it had the Mcarbo kit, but obviously it didn't work out that way. You can call it a lemon if you want, but the fact is that a bunch of them are lemons. The Mcarbo kit fixes a lot of them that are problematic, but I have also seen many reports that it didn't like I experienced here. And yes these people were aware of how to "properly" load it (which is stupid simple because it loads just like an AR mag), and they were using the recommended ammo. I'm happy for you that yours runs great, but don't come on here spreading misinformation based only on your experience. I speak the unbiased truth, again, founded by hours of research and data...
@@BuckeyeBallistics WOW, It's just my opinion Based on my Experiences with the Kel-Tec Platform and Yes, this company, IMO has gotten a Bad Reputation years ago and some of these Videos I have seen have contributed to that Bad Reputation because I have seen 30 grain bullets being used, when the User Guide says Do Not Use 30 grain ammo! I have 4 Kel-Tec Firearms and I don't think It is Luck that I do not have any problems! I'm just trying to Help Those Shooters that are having problems with their guns and I think my advice based on my experience is Valid for this reason, even though you disagree! Have Fun Showing your Videos & Good Luck!
You stated and I quote "Just use 40 grain or higher, premium ammo and there should be no malfunctions!" "This is a great firearm and not inherently problematic at all!" Exclamation marks and everything! Opinion or not, personal experience or not, you are still spreading false information and pushing your biased opinion. My review and research is unbiased and actual factual information. You say you want to help other shooters- well it's not going to help them very much if they take your word that these are great guns and then they get a crappy one that still won't run even with 40gr "premium" ammo. They'll be pissed, and it is a common occurance with these pistols whether you want to accept that or not. I'm not mad at yah guy, but if you give your opinion then I am going to give mine as well. Now anybody needing "help" can read both of our opinions and decide for themselves...
The gun mods are HIGHLY suspect with that degree of failure with so many ammo types. The bigest "known issues" with this weapon is not using the recommended ammo. 40 grain FMJ is diet of choise with full mags. Any review not using that ammo is a demo on how not to do it.
Mine works fine but doesn't have the fluted barrel. That's what I looked for when I bought mine. I heard keltec replaces the fluted barrel when you return it for the jamming problem.
Interesting, good to know!
Brought mine when they first came out , good effort from kel tec but sadly this gun has to many issues to enjoy
Not sure why these pistols have such a bad rap as I have a PMR30 I bought when they first came out. It is a 3 digit serial number and I have close to 2000 rounds through it without a single jam. I have had 1 failure to feed caused by a cracked magazine that would not feed last round. I have by habit always loaded my magazines short and I only load 25 rounds per mags. Not sure if that is why I am not seeing any problems or not. Also i only shoot US made ammo as recommended in owners manual and I do not to shoot anything below 36 Grain as I found it has a tendency to keyhole through original fluted barrel. I have thought about getting a new non-fluted barrel as that is supposed to solve this problem. I also have the CMR30 with over 750 rounds through it and have not had any issues with it either. The 30 grain VMAX through the CMR is highly accurate and does not have the keyhole issues the PMR has.
Thanks for the mention, sorry didn't run smooth for you.
Appreciate you loaning it to me regardless. And hey, it's Keltecs fault, not yours lol.
I think your having rim lock issues.
There is a video where the guy is adamant that his PMR30 has run flawlessly since he stared to lube his with 3-in-1 oil on the moving parts. I personally am a Slip2000 fan for lube, but you never know!
must have gotten lucky, as all i have run through mine is CCI Maxi-Mag TNT 22 WMR it is 30g and so far 350isg rounds with no problems at all, bought this gun in april of 2022.
The main problem with them is loading the mags and limp wristing the gun because its so light .... have both pmr and cmr and no problems except a broken firing pin in pmr
About 400 rounds of CCI only two failure to feed, 22 mag was not meant for semi auto pistols.
Good point regarding semi auto from what I heard the RIA is just as bad. The KelTec has a lifetime warranty Because You are going to need it! Mine has been back 4 times. I just shot 50 rounds no problem but I’m not expecting miracles. Always use CCI Maxi Mags, Uplula Made in Israel and tap the back after 5 rounds. If KelTec offered a single stack magazine I would purchase in a heartbeat. My gun shop/range stop selling KelTec to many customers coming back complaining. If you look at Kectec PMR30 problems on RUclips 20 owners will have 20 different fixes for FTF / FTE. That is the telltale sign right there. I love 22 wmr I have a Ruger Lcrx and just bought Smith Wesson 351c. Enjoying these revolvers. Take Care!
Lube the pistol and the clip to the max during the break in. Fiocchi ammo is the best to run through this gun
Run a bead of gel superglue under across the mag catch lip on the mag, will raise the mag a tad to fit flush. Or buy the MCarbo mag catch
I would change magazines. You may have had a bad one. I only shoot the federal 50gr HP. The only problem I had was a magazine issues. I love my PMR 30's!
There was more than one mag in this video...
Just upgrading to the MCarbo stainless feed ramp should make a big difference
shot that same gun today zero problems
I see a lot of people respond to this guns poor reliability with You need to put Carbo parts in it, or You need to try various ammo or load the magazines right and so on, That is a turn off for me to buy this gun, a person should not have to sink more money into a new firearm to get it to work properly or baby it trying to find ammo that might work, it should function flawlessly brand new out of the box,
Exactly
I do not have a PMR30, but I am compelled to defend it anyway. Was that gun cleaned and lubed before you received it? IT ACTS LIKE A VERY DIRTY GUN. EVERY load that you shot had VERY WEAK ejection! A few flew back, but most barely got over your head and fell just behind you! This implies that the slide is not cycling fast enough and hard enough to eject shells, producing stovepipes and fails to feed. Also, every full mag you showed to the camera had the top round too far forward and not fully inserted in the mag lips...........................elsullo
It was stripped and thoroughly cleaned before it was handed to me. Every round was loaded into the mag as far as they would go. I know how to load a mag and I even went over the KELTEC provided method of doing it correctly in the video for this very reason, since everyone is SO compelled to always blame the loading method. I do hope you watch the video in it's entirety before making any further assumptions...
@@BuckeyeBallistics YOU watch the video! You can SEE that the top bullet is forward in the stack!...........................elsullo
I regret replying to your other comment on the other video where you seemed like a cool dude. Maybe you should do some research on this gun before "defending" it and educate yourself about what a piece of garbage it actually is. As I just said to another commenter earlier today, good luck keeping all of those cartridges in perfect alignment like that in the real world. Strap it to your hip and walk around for a few minutes and they will be all out of alignment, God forbid actually having to run with it. Drop it and the whole thing is effed, run and it is effed, walk long enough and it is effed. Yeah, I don't want anything to do with any gun that becomes unreliable because I dropped the mag or just walked up a damn hill, nor do I want anything to do with anyone commenting that this is apparently a reasonable excuse for a firearm to NOT WORK. So go ahead and reverse that subscription you said you gave me and get lost...
This is what happens when you don't read the instructions and load the magazines properly. Embarrassing. It only takes a minute.
This is what happens when you run your mouth without actually watching the video... because I went over the proper loading method.
Federal 50 gr hp is a good round
In the times Ive taken my PMR30 (unmodified) out to shoot, Ive never been able to put more than a handful of rounds at a time through it before it jams on me, even using CCI 40gr or Hornady Critical Defense 45gr. Great concept, but the feed issues really really disappoint. It would be a nightmare for self-defense, needless to say.
Learn how to load it, it is not Rocket Science.
@@timothycash9577 Yeah, thanks for the tip bud.
I must one of the Uber lucky ones.. I can run 30grhirnady ,33gr rems, 40 cci maxi tnt.. cci maxi 40 gr.. Hornady csd 45gr ... nada issues .. I already knew these guns like to be run wet ..other than a lil more oil than I normal use ok n the lube points..zero complaints, zero issues .. one of my fave guns to shoot mini desert eagle 50ae fireballs at way less cost ... send it to keltec .. my bro was like yours , got it back after replacing extractors n firing pin and it's run right as rain since then.. my bro also uses lula loader .. I do by hand .. we broke down both pistols and really couldn't see any obvious differences in em so whatever was causing his to ftf fte i got no clue ... but his is like mine now .. runs the light stuff to the heavy to the heaviest fine .. worth a shot
Try the MCarbo stainless feed ramp
Try pushing the magazine up when shooting. When I did this mine ran fine. The mcarbo mag release fixed it.
I have had mine for years no problems
Soft point hollow point or you can call it semi jacketed hollowpoint
I have put about 500 rounds or so and only had 1 missfeed
The double feed was improper mag loading
It depends on how well you load the nag
I went over proprer mag loading per Keltec in the video...
MCarbo has upgrade accessories to make it function reliably.. I upgraded to a stainless feed ramp and slide recoil springs.. theres videos on installation
You must have missed the parts where I mentioned more than once that this gun has the Mcarbo upgrades...
I have one pmr 30 stock 1 pmr 39 mcarbo keltec installed .. n the mcarbo one still is lackluster ... the stock pmr 30 runs great and why I bought a second ... keltecs ideas are great and innovative but their cryyout of said ideas are subpar by far
Seems you aren’t loading the mags properly. Plus Keltec tells you which ammunition to use.
Seems you skipped through the video, because I covered both points.
@@BuckeyeBallistics yes sir. I did jump the gun. And I apologize. I listened to the first half. I figured that you’d already made up your mind to the negative side and I just had to comment. Your gift to us is your best practices approach in most of your videos.. After you tried taking into account the pros, cons, etc according to the company manual then let us know your opinion. To me, it would be difficult to trash something and then come back and say”Oh, by the way…”
I know the video was long, but that's a big part of the reason why- because I tried to cover everything I knew these guns were notorious for and also how one is supposed to rectify the situations. Unfortunately for me and the owner of this firearm that I borrowed it from, nothing we tried (including Keltec's own advise) worked for us to get it to run 100%.
@@BuckeyeBallistics that’s the story. I’m interested in that. What worked and what didn’t.
Well for starters some of them run great and some don't- I'd say you got about a 50/50 shot of getting a good one that runs right. You can read plenty of comments from owners under this video that admit the gun is at fault, some even owning more than one and saying how one runs flawless and the other doesn't. The MCarbo parts are supposed to fix the problematic ones- but as stated in this video, they were installed on this gun *because* it ran like crap from the factory, yet clearly it still did not fix the issues. Personally if it was my firearm, I would keep sending it back to Keltec until they made it run right...
The mag is a biatch to load but oil clean cci runs great for me
Yeah uhh avoid rim lock and for a 500.00 gun the build quality SUCKS. SO, The Carbo upgrade, especially the feed ramp, buffer and coil and mag upgrades are the 3 critical ones...😮😊
If he had no issues, and you did it’s one of 2 things, he’s lying, or you are doing something wrong
I can no longer watch this! I just can't believe you are having so much trouble with this Gun! LEMON - SEND IT BACK!
It's not mine lol
It needs to lubricate before you use it.😊
You just don't know how to load it lol,I use the Winchester Dynapoints in mine they run better than the cci mini mags that are recomrnded,still have issues guess I don't caress or kiss the right area hmmm
I load 1 at a time in mine and it runs flawlessly!!!
Call Kel Tec. They will take the gun and remachine it. But, take 2 months for the gun to come back.
Did you do some work on your pistol because my pistol slide stop is locked in place and i can not press it to release the slide, i called kel tec and they said you cant release it that way you must pull back on the slide to let it chamber a load but i saw you operate yours with one thumb and no trouble
Yes- I stated in the video more than once that it had the Mcarbo upgrades. I know it's a long video, but you miss information like this when you skip through...
@@BuckeyeBallistics Thanks for replying so quick, and the reason i missed that was because i had the sound off while you were discussing ammo lol my bad .. thanks again i will be looking at those upgrades
All good
@@BuckeyeBallistics whick upgrade did you install that enables the slide stop ?
Brother, you missed a lot. As I said in the video, this was borrowed from a friend and he did all the modifications. As I recall, he did all of the upgrades. But I'm sure Mcarbo would be happy to answer your questions regarding this if you sent them a quick email, because I really don't know anything about their products...
EVERYONE who has this Gun, Please read the User Guide and Follow Ammo Recommendations, Feeding Issues and other Important Info before you shoot this gun! Does It Say Use Soft Tips, NO It does NOT! So why are you using Soft Tips? Just Follow what the User Guide Says! I have 4 Kel-Tec Handguns and I have had none of these Issues at all! Am I Lucky, NO!!! Just Read the User Guide and do what It Says and if you have Problems, Just Send It Back to Kel-Tec!!!!
Where was the gel test?
As I stated in this video, it will be a seperate video comming up soon.
Fisher Price 22 Mag
Gold
Zero problems with mine.
Use a nest loader.
100% JUNK. Had my new PMR 30 blow up in my hands due to a manufacturing problem that the company knew about but did not recall. They repaired the gun and it failed to fire twice in one magazine. Returned it to them but it was a three-month fight to get my money returned from them. When I see the name Kel-Tec, I think of garbage.
No issues at all with my PMR 30…
Well sir you obviously didn’t read the owners manual those mags have the same issue as the M16 maqs you have to make sure that the ammo seats against the back of the mag TAP TAP TAP and no problems and by the way it is not optic ready
And you sir obviously skipped through the video because it was discussed how to properly load the mag, which I did. And I hope you're not referring to the modern AR rifle as an M16...
I guess I must have struck gold mine is amazing
40gr. Or higher.... or will jam
I guess you missed the part where I used 40gr and higher...
@@BuckeyeBallistics Ba-ba-Ba-Blow-Me......
Not on your life
10 minutes and you still haven't shot
It's a 40 minute video, what did you expect...
No thank you. Way too many ammo and malfunctioning issues.