I try again with the 1971 International! Will it run on the second attempt? Step by step analysis.
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- We failed getting this truck running on our main channel, @whattherust This time I go back and try again. What happens when a systematic troubleshooting approach is attempted?
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Richard, Those rings must either be extremely stuck or extremely worn out which Option #2 is probably the best answer to that scenario. Wouldn’t you kind of think that with all of the cranking of the engine that the piston rings would have kind of come back to life. Oh Well, You can’t win them all. Try to stay cool in this hot weather.
Agreed, I was thinking I had done enough cranking to help the rigs, but they must have been completely worn out.
I still don’t care about the worn engine or starter; that is still a cool old truck! That AMC engine can be easily rebuilt or replace at a reasonable price unlike the optional I-H engines that it could have been built with. If it could be bought for a decent price, it would be a fun project and a nice truck to own!
Agreed. This is a super-solid truck for someone to build on.
That engine was to worn out to start, You gave it a second chance but the engine was to worn out to start. Good job for trying .
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Ih sweet truck
Could pick up a medium duty v8 304 ih or maybe a 345 and swap that in it and rebuild the amc 6 cylinder
As long as you are around I'm happy you can do it I know you
In case you weren't aware that engine is an AMC six,International started using them as their base engine starting in 1969 model year.
That's right. Finding a 4.2L should be easy and would be an easy swap.
Just for your consideration; How about using Lucas instead of oil in the cylinders. Got the idea from another tuber! I still enjoy this channel very much.
Thanks for the tip, Steve.
Did you try putting some transmission fluid down the carburetor to pump up the lifters
Back in the early seventys I worked parts room at a Datsun dealership tell a mechanic he was going to have to make a gasket usually resulted in me getting cussed out Lol.
Good effort!! Thanks for the video 🙂
nice try anyway Richard-
You gave it the old college try
Well, at least you gave it "the old college try", as they say. Sometimes it's just not going to work.
That's right. At least now I know why.
Richard you did all you could do. On that old International. Your so right got to have compression to fire up. Thanks for showing all the work. And regardless you’re still the best at getting this old Iron going. 💯👊👍
Thanks very much, Terry. At least now I know why the truck wouldn't start.
U had a gr8 try and you're right. You can't win them all😢 thanks😊
You gotta know when to hold em and know when to fold em . thanks for sharing I love those old corn binders.
Man you get some bad ones . Hopefully the next one will be easier,
Excellent video Christina :) , Richard :) , thought over to and thinking that needed rebuilt and cure all too! Yes Auto Mechanic told anything over 70 to it normal PSI readings in each cylinders has make engine okay also with other 4 strokes steps! Then got Rocking engine to run !
Another old timer trick I’ve seen used with worn engines is to tow start them ( obviously only good with manual transmissions)
Seen a WW2 blitz truck started that way
Might be worth a try if manual
Damn but I still enjoyed it
Hi Richard ! Hey Kudos man for giving it another shot ! Honestly, I would have guessed a jumped timing issue until you put your compression gauge to it. That's really kinda rare that you found one with compression so bad it wouldn't run. Generally, the problem lies elsewhere. Maybe a candidate for a small block Chevy swap ?? Great video...very much enjoyed !!
Glad you liked it. Before I started that day, I too expected the timing to be off a tooth. Not to be though.
You did what you could Richard 🙂 that engine, was just shot. Tnx for a good video 👍
it has briggs and stratton compression and tecumseh compression. to bad it didnt kick to life that would be something. ill bet it would have smoked like a pig. probably burn more oil than gas..
That spark plug whistle is handy than a pocket on a shirt.
I really like that tool. For what I do, it is indispensable.
No question you gave this old gal more time than she deserved. You showed us all the steps in the process and helped some to learn that sometimes it just isn’t going to happen. Thanks for all your effort, definitely one of the best mechanics I’ve seen.👍👍🇨🇦
Thanks very much, Dan.
You done all you could do it still made a good video thanks for sharing Richard
You're welcome Dale. Thank you for the support.
I had one just like yours and finally had to pull all the plugs, squirt oil in all the cylinders and reinstall the plugs and it finally started. The whole neighborhood was covered in smoke but it ran!
Right on!
That may be the longest I’ve ever seen anyone crank an engine - 41 seconds . Not starting, give the ol girl a rest
Im always on this channel being on premium
Much appreciated, Paul.
In the case of a engine that may truly fouled up or has little compression I found ( but has good spark). A very last ditch effort that usually works. I dip each plug in sterno, it usually is a good boost.
I had not heard of that before. Thank you for the tip.
Had a silly thought for reviving long dead engines. Heat cycles can loosen up rings stuck in ring lands, gummed up valve guides, and so on. Any reason a person couldn't set up a small rig with an electric water pump and a small hot water heater like used in a travel trailer? Hook up the lines through the heater core connections on the block and let it run until the block gets to around 190, then cool down? In between heat cycles, rotate the engine a few rotations by hand and do it all again.
I think that is an excellent idea.
I don't think I've ever seen you walk away from any will it run except the Buick with lug nut 😮 i hate seeing that you're always so determined to bring them to life 😢
Right, I don't like to fail, but sometimes they just will not run.
That starter sounds like it's on it's last legs.
Love the extra Channel Richard! It is a nice way to do specific stuf here that you wouldn't do on the main channel. Keep the good work up and best of Luck next time!
Thant's right. This channel has and will have more specific content to the vehicles we get running on the main channel, and any other automotive topics we uncover (like the inexpensive AC installation). Thank you for the support.
At least you tried Richard! Thanks for sharing this video my friend! Sometimes things are just too worn out! Would have to rebuild it I guess! Thanks! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👌🏻👍🏻👍🏻🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🙋🏼✌🏻✌🏻💯💯💯
Right on! Some need a rebuild.
Even a ford fe which is usually pretty easy to get a fe 360 v8 and put that in the truck
Thanks for you effort and sharing the process with us. I alway learn something and are entertained in the process.
You're welcome. Glad you liked it.
Put some oil in the cylinders?
I love your channels. Keep it up, good work.
Thank you for the support. More content on the way.
-- A good effort. I would have done a couple of other things... I would have conducted a leak down test on each cylinder. I assume that you know what that all entails but in case you don't, pressurize each cylinder when both the intake & exhaust valves are closed. You're looking to see how quickly the bleed down is from any given amount of pressure as measured in PSI. If a cylinder simply doesn't hold any pressure at all then one of two things is happening unless there's a catastrophic failure: the rings are stuck or one (possibly both!) of the valves is not seated correctly. Yes, a slow bleed down is natural even in a new engine but when you conduct an appropriate leak down test, it will tell you a lot just about the valves. For this particular engine as it seemingly has worn out rings, I wouldn't have hesitated to conduct a bleed down check before pulling the head in order to physically check the valves. I say this because it's possible that the rings are actually useful but the engine is in desperate need of a valve job for all the valves. Granted, it isn't likely as such is the case but it is wise to rule it out. The rule of thumb when all other considerations have been exhausted is just to simply do the checks in order. Then you can be 100% satisfied with the results. So what gives with the valves? Sometimes one or the other of the valves just won't seal... they can simply be physically worn, cracked, burned, etc. If a previous owner or owners failed to do regular maintenance or the engine was seriously overheated then all sorts of damage can occur. Again, when you've got nothing else to lose then just do the checks because you'll get your answers without a doubt. Best wishes!
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Great video !! Glad to have you keeping us informed step by step yourself instead of occasional comments while you work. Thanks again!!
Glad you liked it.
I too was hoping this ol’ binder was gonna run. Great effort but the rings and valves are far too gone. But someone needs to give this truck a new home! Thank you Richard. Keep them out of the crusher!
For sure, Glen. This truck is very solid, and could be a great truck with an engine swap.
I've seen 266,304, and 345 ih engines that would constantly bend over pushrods from sticky valves non existent valve seals and bad gas...
I think valve rockers push rod need be all oil up when you pull off valve cover look like it hasn't had anything oil in over all that stuff in long time bi believe that might been part your problem all that stuff needs to be oiled up really good you trying to turn engine over with all Val train engine valve pushrod all dry no oil on them
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Later Dudes
Pour a quart of oil down the carb crank it hard and that carb needs 5 to 6 lbs of fuel pressure in order to work properly
Nice job sir Sorry to you engine Nice show sir 😃👏👏👏👍👍👍👍
RICHARD AND CHRISTINA. RICHARD CAN YOU REBUILD THE ENGINE? OR JUST, VALVES AND RINGS, IS THE TRUCK SOLID ENOUGH? INTERNATIONAL PICK UP TRUCKS ARE SPECIAL, YOU DIDN'T SEE MANY. THANK YOU BOTH FOR GREAT CONTENT. ALWAYS LOOK FOR YOU YOU AND CHRISTINA. DOM'N NICKS AC VENICE FL.
I think the engine needs rings to be right.
it would be nice to know if some of the piston rings are stuck.
i thought 24 volt would have started fooled me
Right, I did as well, but it was not to be.
The end cylinders don't get lubricated as well.
Mr. B. Here ! 🍩☕️👀😎👍. Richard & Christina I have been playing vehicles since 14 now 72 sometimes the sound the engine makes is telling you let be. The is free that but how to repair or make safe & run truck 🛻 with support ! Good try Richard ! 🍩☕️👀😎👍🇺🇸
Thanks Mr. B.
aw, all the efforts still didn't work... made me think, what if the valve play is to be adjusted, and from neglecting it now the valves don't close properly? it surely could play a role in it, together with all the other worn out parts. had the same when I switched an engine (Ford V-4) and switched the heads, too, and forgot to adjust the play before the first test run. almost no compression... even when someone pointed that out to me it took me a while to realize where the problem came from.
and from my experience valve play is something too easily neglected.
Good thought, Lothar, but those rockers aren't adjustable on the 232. I think the cylinders and rings are just worn out.
Must be the low compression.
Not enough to fire the fuel.
You went beyond the call of duty! This was the first one that wouldn't run. Excellent record! Like 100 to 1?
Thank you! I can think of a few, the red 49 Chevy, the 69 Lincoln, and now this one. Sometimes they are just too far gone.
Not that it would have made any difference in getting it running, but when you were measuring the 6th cylinder, the pressure release button on the side was pressed against the valve cover so it probably released any pressure that was building since the needle was slightly jumping back and forth and there was a hissing sound on every compression stroke that didn't happen when you were measuring the other cylinders
That is an excellent observation. Thanks for pointing it out!
You never show timing on the crank. ??? Mick Australia 🇦🇺
Right, I realized that while editing, but the truck is 95 miles away so going back to reshoot was not in the cards. They were nicely lined up anyway.
I've had a few engines that recover from low "c" but it's rare.
Right, our 1952 Chevy did, but I think this truck is too far gone.
You gave it a great effort, Richard. Sometimes it doesn't always work out. Thanks for your hard work and thank you for sharing! 😎
Right on, David. Thank you for the support.
Richard try and take it home get a motor for it it's a good looking truck
I'd like to, but I have too many projects already.
That starter sounds awful !!
Right, it was a challenge both times I worked on the truck.
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This one is worth rebuilding
Definitely.
Kinda like to see you do the rebuild or engine swap and get it running your way Richard sir cool truck
Does he want to sell it and have a title
Yes, it is for sale, and he has the title.
@@morewhattherust do you know of a good way to get in touch with them love yalls videos
We learned that internationals are junk and Chevrolets are golden
Ls swap Lol
Wheres Christina at?
She was working her 2nd job that day.