How Ninjutsu Absorption Is Destroying The Naruto Franchise
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- Опубликовано: 27 май 2023
- Ninjutsu absorption is destroying the Naruto franchise. Absorbing chakra was establised early on in the Sasuke vs Yoroi fight, and then with Kisame, Jirobo, and Tayuya in Naruto Part 1. It's only in Naruto Shippuden when characters begin to absorb Ninjutsu attacks with the Preta Path of the Rinnegan. Jiraiya vs Pain was the first time that happened, Naruto vs Pain and the Pain Arc made that a staple of the series.
After that, Madara, Sasuke, and Nagato absorbed ninjutsu with their Rinnegan in the War Arc. Things became much worse in Boruto, where every major character is capable of absorbing ninjutsu or negaring it in another way. Momoshiki, Boruto, Kawaki, Delta, Jigen, Isshiki, they can all negate ninjutsu with their abilities, making fights less engaging.
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Who's the best Naruto villain?
Uhicha
Madara
For me pain is the best villain of Naruto
Sasuke
Obviously Hikaku
Momoshiki's ability is literally 'Double it and give it to the next person'.
Double it
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@@nobodygoodfr9556 cool story bro
Reason no one after Nagato used the Rinnegan as efficiently:
Kishi realized how OP it was and forever needed it.
Facts 💯
The knife to the eye really settles that
forever needed it? Do you mean nerf?
It's hilarious Because to this Day Pain is the best Rinnegan user
The only one to master all abilities
I agree it was cool in the chunin exams because that guy could only do it with touch and it was cool with the 6 paths of pain because he could still be defeated by sage chakra and taijutsu. But now that it has no limits and is being wielded by alien gods? It just makes all the tension in these fights feel virtually nonexistent
Exactly and it was only one version of the 6th paths and something he couldn’t just spam all the time
True. But with the introduction of new powers such as shinjutsu, it could increase the tension of fights. After all I think “Boruto” is trying to get past ninjutsu and the age of ninja, and is starting to transition into the lore of mythology and gods.
@@sixpathshashira Well its doing a bad job at it.
@@jantheking7028 how so? Sure the plot is kinda weird but with the introduction of shinjutsu, it’s kinda obvious that ninjutsu is pretty much irrelevant now. And in my opinion a lot of the shinjutsu we’ve seen so far are pretty cool and extremely broken. Plus they literally have a shinjutsu called omnipotence… how much more godlike can you get than that?
That's why boruto is far superior to Naruto. There's far more powerful and better villains in boruto
Akatsuki was a good way on how to create varied "bosses" Aka Each Character focused on a certain form of Ninja style that they were masters of, something that left room for weaknesses..
And i wish we could get more of that .
Straight up, they're my favourite villain group in shounen. I think a lot of this is helped by Naruto being so long that it gives them a lot more development and time to show off their abilities compared to other villainous groups like the homunculi from FMA or La Squadra from JoJo's. Such a varried, unique set of abilities, with each member having multiple unique techniques and whipping out some insane things when pushed into a corner.
Isn’t there a side manga about each Akatsuki member or is that just Itachi?
unfortunately that would require creativity and effort that we see the Boruto writers dont have and dont want to give, they only want to monetize nostalgia of Naruto and then tell their own story after baiting Naruto fans to watch their low/mid Chinese cultivation like story so they have to kill of anything and everything Naruto ever was and did
I think at some point they’ll just have to nerf everyone by taking out otsutsuki influence and some of the tech stuff. It got out of hand lol.
@@explsivo605 naruto ended after shippuden started
Madara immediately mastering Sage Mode is beyond plot hax.
Can't even be a genius in fiction anymore without someone complaining. There's a reason he was the top dog
@@villain9482? Dude thats plot device
@@villain9482plot device obviously
@@DangNguyen-jw9fl so anyone who's s genius in fiction is plot device. You people are ridiculous. Always the fucking Dygo knight fans. This is why you're all always getting clowned
@@villain9482fking hashirama took time to learn sage mode, how could madara did it instanly? Remember, Hashirama is much more of a genius than Madara will ever be. Dude have no special eyes, and yet he is built different, literally. His dna is still being used as a plot device to this day 😂
In videogames also where they make bosses super resistant to status effects, so if you have characters that are built for doing things like poison, paralysis, burning, etc., suddenly all the bosses are only vulnerable to brute force or some cheese strategy.
Instead of making enemies immune to things, just give them more options to deal with them and that forces you to get more creative to do damage.
Akatsuki was a good way to deal with varied "bosses" Aka Each Character focused on a certain form of Ninja style that they were masters of, something that left room for weaknesses..
That is Digimon cyber series. The boss is strong and weak against nothing but defenses and attacks are buffed to heaven. Just use something with defense piercing attacks and make the final boss a joke. Instead they could have done something that would pay off team diversity, they had the mechanics but no.
Elden ring with holy damage be like:
Thats why i play pokemon on gba. Status effects
Thing is kidh didn’t waNt a story about ninja but more sci-fi , theway I views boruto is that it’s it’s own series, Naruto is done
Crazy how Sasuke had the rinnegan and didn’t absorb any ninjutsu in boruto while basically all of Kara, karma users, and even Naruto with ninja tech did
He built different, hopefully he trains Boruto well
i love the scene when he's fighting Momoshiki telling everyone "Watch out he can absorb ninjutsu!" Im just there watching, screaming "So can you!"
@@EM-bi7en Facts lmao. He could have absorbed momoshiki’s shadow possession jutsu that he used on them but I guess he had to let boruto save them 😂
Too much inconsistentansy in this series man
Remember when Sasuke absorbed any jutsu in shippuden, films and light novels? Me neither.
At most he drained chakra through touch in a single scene.
Did he use the rinnegan to absorb any of Kaguyas jutsu? Any of Narutos in Vinal Valley, in any of the novels or films?
I like how people are so quick to blame Boruto for that when Sasuke has never showed he is capable of doing it.
"B, but Nagato and rinnegan!"
No one else ever used the rinnegan even a quarter aswell as Nagato did, obito, Madara and Sasuke included.
Itd be kinda funny if Sasuke did actually use the Preta path more in the valley of the end and naruto used the same trick he used against Pain giving us Toadsuke
Sasuke mastered the curse mark though, which is nature energy. So Sasuke would probably have no issue with controlling it, and then suddenly you've got sage mode Sasuke.
@@sumandark8600 thatd also be cool it's a win win
@@xion0713 😢 un yv cv dsAFtcs
Madara absorbed Hashi's sage chakra. Sasuke would've no problems absorbing Naruto's.
@@sumandark8600 I’m not sure it works like that… I think Orochimaru was trying to copy Sage Mode with the curse mark but it doesn’t make it Nature Energy especially since it wasn’t a perfect replica.
I think the absorption jujitsu was his way to counter his absurdly op powers. He wrote himself into a corner where most of the powers his main heros have could one shot everyone. Hence, the necessity of the preta path
He cornered himself even more with ninjutsu absorption, rendering pretty much every other ninja useless. Only Naruto and Sasuke had a chance among ninjas and even 8 gates Rock Lee might not stand a chance against the likes of Isshiki.
@@neilfabay11s bro even with Ninjutsu Ishiki makes all the other characters fodder
Thing is kidh didn’t waNt a story about ninja but more sci-fi , theway I views boruto is that it’s it’s own series, Naruto is done
@@jeffjeff9484Then takes Nars face of his scifi shit.
Then he nerfed the fk out of sausage to make him look like a tool
Another criticism I have to give to Naruto/Boruto is that dojutsu is basically the super saiyan of Naruto. if you're not a saiyian , Namekian or any other alien race you're not that strong compared to the other cast.
Thing is kidh didn’t waNt a story about ninja but more sci-fi , theway I views boruto is that it’s it’s own series, Naruto is done
Uchiha*
You meant Uchiha, no dojutsu
There's plenty of dojutsu that Kishi decided were not good enough because fck anyone who's not the protagonist or an Uchiha.
Or hashirama.
@@tale7955 No I meant Doijutsu on a whole . The Otosutsuki, Boruto, Kawaki, rinnegan, Eida and Daemon etc. the only person in Boruto who is powerful without a doijutsu is Code but even his power is derived from Otosutsuki.
Pure humans in Naruto that does come from a Otosutsuki clan are basically fooder now.
@@joelwilness849 sorry, Boruto is not canon and I'm not willing to accept the opposite. I was talking about Naruto.
@@tale7955You can choose not to accept it but if people have to deal with Dragon Ball Super being canon, you can deal with Boruto. At least Boruto has good writing in the manga. Unfortunately can’t say the same for Super.
The absorb power could have worked if only a few of the aliens could use it and force the cast to switch around or bring in rock Lee who could do might guy's style of youth shocking the aliens.
That way we have to see the older cast make a lot of different groups that specialize in specific styles so the aliens have to team up to cover each other's weaknesses and then the stakes works that way like pain where destroying preta makes it easier to spam jutsu
What
I personally say no power absorbing because characters should be strong on there own .
Didn't they actually do that and Lee, Choji, and Tenten got bodied immediately???
The point is to make the old guard obsolete. Which is why you see them getting used like skateboards or cowering helplessly in the corner.
@@F1ll1nTh3Blanks well it's bad either way and not a good way to excuse he bad writing and non existent power scale as Naruto had problems with it but not to this extent of making everything not matter if a little crying gets you MS or another soul reincarnation cycle explains why everyone is useless.
Nagato wasn't an old man, he was the same age as Konan, he was just on a diet.
And Naruto did use rasen shuriken in Boruto, lava style against delta
I think he could never get enough calories to sustain 6 plus bodies. Also the chakra drain no doubt added to the aged body
Indeed, the outer path statue really drains on your chakra...
Now if only Konan was a better cook so she could provide Nagato with some hearty meal, lol
@@mahiru20ten she probably was terrified of using fire to cook lol
At least in Shippuden it seemed to have a limit to how fast you could absorb jutsu/chakra and how many jutsu you could absorb
Delta literally burstsed by absorbing too much in boruto
Thing is kidh didn’t waNt a story about ninja but more sci-fi , theway I views boruto is that it’s it’s own series, Naruto is done
@@darling..............yea what about every other villain in boruto
@@darling..............from goddamn Naruto the literal neutron star of chakra capacity with a full tank that's a garbage comparison
@@jeffjeff9484ok☠️then ask him to make it enjoyable enough.
Nagato had, literally, his entire life to learn to utilize the abilities of the rinnegan. Madara had years. Sasuke had a day
Then why did he show one the greatest Chakra absorption feat we've seen the series, absorbing Chakra from every single junchuriki at once!
@@emptyshogun6194 well I don't understand the correlation between my comment and your question. What I stated was the amount of time he had to learn the techniques and learn to utilize them effectively. What you stated is a feat of something else that he was able to do but to answer your question anyway, he was more than likely able to achieve such an impressive feat because he had already had them sealed and they were touching his chakra while they were sealed inside of his technique
i think if you awaken a new dojutsu it becomes muscle memory to use them abilities
So there's no excuse for him to not use any other rinnegan ability in Boruto. He had years to learn already
@@ahmadjauhar4562 The Bort writers (Kishimoto, Kodachi & Ikemoto) nerfed Sasuke's abilities into the ground.
Now hold on if Madara can still use his rinnegan abilities without his eyes then Sasuke in boruto... WHAT WAS THE POINT OF TAKING AWAY HIS RINNEGAN THEN???
All he did was absorb ameterasu. He did nothing else
@@charlescooks9360 lmao “that’s all he did” iight bro 😂😂
@@charlescooks9360 he absorb sage mode. Tf
@@charlescooks9360 he didn't even do that, the armor took the amaterasu
Isn't it because Madara awakened his naturally whereas Sasuke's got gifted? Idunno
The problem is introducing this many jutsus and combos may be hard to remember in certain fights. The fights are as smart as the writer and let's just say Kishimoto was not always the smartest guy. He is a human after all.
He also got sick of drawing it after a while.
Exactly then add serialisation on a Weekly basis
or dude it's just lazy writing.
@@MastaRuten draw and write a weekly manga is not easy
“The fights are as smart as the writer” exactly 💯 that’s what makes me appreciate the FMA, HxH & JoJo’s so much more. Shounen doesn’t have to be simple fights, it’s up to the writer.
This ability should have been rare in Naruto. Like maybe both in our perspective and in universe we see it every couple of years and like have it potrayed as really really really rare
The ability is rare
@@hoifzf you sure cause it feels more common now? But then again most of the enemies are freaking aliens nowadays
@@hattoripool1533 man I don't even want to consider Boruto a sequel of Naruto
It was rare in part 1
Orochimaru stated his underlings ability is a “unique gift”
Something even Orochimaru couldn’t do himselv
@@aceclover758 it's definitely still rare considering the people that can do that are an extremely small percentage of the cast
Sasuke, Nagato, Obito, Madara,Kisame,Yorio,Taiyuya and kaguya
Boruto uses the ability as a crutch that's one of it's main problems not Naruto
I feel like DBZ had a similar problem for a while with cell, the original androids etc absorbing ki. Was really glad when that stopped being the main thing that happened in fights lol
DBZ did it way better because only 2 characters could absorb ki: Andriod 19 and andriod 20. But in Late Naruto and Boruto, it feels like almost every character can absorb chakara
There's really only three characters in the mainline Dragon Ball franchise that can absorb ki. 19, 20, and Moro. In Naruto Chakra absorption/negation becomes omnipresent the later it goes on causing things to get very stale very fast. But in Dragon Ball it's used so sparingly that it actually can create interesting scenarios where the characters try and create workarounds to those abilities.
A better comparison in DBZ is regeneration. Most of the villains need to be totally vaporized by a stronger opponent, which limits the ways the fights can go.
@@thedarklordx Even then, there is only 3 villains that use regeneration in DBZ: Buu, Moro, and Cell. (arguably fused zamasu as well, but thats a bit different). But in Shippuden and Boruto, basically EVERY major villain has chakara absorption. Kawaki, Isshiki, Kaguya, Momoshiki, Delta, Madara, etc.
@@smilelydogge2821 Outer Karaa member Boro is the only Boruto villain without chakra absorption since Boro can only regenerate. which is why the new team 7 against Boro was one of my favored fights in Boruto. Boro could also use virus's to keep his opponents at bay.
Actually, Shino's fight with Kankuro the second time we learn about people with the ability to steal chakra. We learn there that his clan's kikaichu can detect, measure, and feed off of an individuals chakra. It's what makes them so hard to host. Its even how Shino beats Kankuro. Shino has his kikaichu follow Kanuro's chakra strings back to his actual body where they drain him like a juice box.
Yeah, and it is also balanced by the fact that bugs are pretty frail, so he coudn't just throw them to the enemy and expect them to not counter it, he needs to surprise them and slide trough weak spots or else he has nothing
@@cardescomedioses3674 Exactly. It's not like he's just holding out his hands and absorbing fireballs and giant blasts, he has to use bugs which can be killed relatively easily.
I think with Sasuke in the final fight it's that Naruto at that point didn't have enough chakra to absorb. The line that Naruto says is not that Sasuke's absorbing his own chakra but "Kurama's chakra".
Cope
@@oboroth51 Bro, I'm literally using a quote from the story to back up my point. You saying "cope" is just you dismissing what I said.
That is YOU coping _hard_
absorption is one of those powers that just isn't very interesting. it works the same pretty much anywhere regardless of whose using it, there's like 3 ways to deal with it across any universe/ip and its hard to spice it up without making it either useless or straight up unbeatable. its often used as a crutch and given to villains ad nauseam to raise the stakes instead of actually giving them interesting abilities. why make the character strong or difficult to deal with mechanically when you can just make them outright immune to most forms of attack? absorption and negation abilities are, in my opinion, the anti-thesis to creativity and become exponentially more annoying and lame the more characters that have it.
Dungeon Master crash course right here
It's basically the writing equivalent of everything-proof armor in a playground fight, followed shortly by the everything-proof armor piercing attack
@@MiloJamesThatch Kishimoto chose absorption for every fight after that too, and it didn't even do anything there because they didn't even need to strategize around it, they just put magic anti-absorption juice on their attacks and that was the series from then on.
@MiloJamesThatch he chose absorption because it makes the antagonists more threatening with the least amount of strain on himself writing wise.
When he wants the user to look cool he has them absorb a gigantic attack or hit a protagonist with a move that looks really painful and makes them really tired. When he wants the user to get hit, he has the protagonists hit them with something they can't absorb, usually physical attacks, or just makes the user forget they have the ability.
People gotta stop pretending like authors are infallible and all knowing when it comes to their stories. Especially writers like kishimoto who clearly doesn't know or care about what he's doing half the time.
I don't mind Naruto/Boruto going more for the Taijutsu over Ninjutusu stuff but it gets to the point it's like "Why does Ninjutsu even exist?'
I agree with your perspective on the taijutsu fight between Baryon Mode Naruto and Isshiki. The animation was good, but I just didn't like the outfit and the fight felt so boring to me. If I wanted an amazing taijutsu fight I would have watched Kakashi v. Obito again.
It looked like two action figures fighting.
The words
"The fight felt so boring to me"
and then
"If I wanted an amazing taijutsu fight I would have watched Kakashi v Obito again"
Is damn hilarious lmao
@@zqninja3334 what’s so funny about it?
Hiruko, a villain from the Naruto movie “The Will of Fire”, can also absorbs ninjutsu and chakra as well and he can fire back the ninjutsus he absorbed back at his enemies. He was the first Naruto villain with this power since Momoshiki has the same attack in “Boruto the Movie”, the Boruto writers just lazily rehashed it as an Otsutsuki power.
Remember that all chakra comes from the Otsutsuki Clan. ninja's would not exist if kaguya did not have sex and pass down chakra to Naruto's world in the beginning.
@@1BadAssArchAngelvs14 The Otsutsukis was shoehorned into the story by Kishimoto because Boruto needs to exist. His editors forced him to do it because they want to continue the Naruto series in some way.
A major contradiction to the origin of chakra is theBoruto series making the origin of the Otsutsukis more convoluted since apparently, they are like the “Saiyans” of Naruto with a pair of Otsutsukis going to each planet to consume chakra by harvesting it’s fruit which is a major retcon. How could there be chakra on Naruto’s planet if Kaguya was the originator of chakra? Boruto is making a contrived mess of the original Naruto with its retcons.
@@VanLe-gk3ie Chakra is just inherited spirit life energy within the body remember this is why chakra can be used for spiritual chakra based communication just like Hagamoro Otsutsuki said like when Lady Tsunade said if a ninja's chakra network is broken or cut then the person slowly dies of leaking chakra and life. When the Otsutsuki clan plant the Biju tree on a planet they absorb the planets chakra thus making the planet die out completely. Remember Hagamoro Otsutsuki said chakra is the pure essence of spirit ,and life like the tree's and the very nature around the life force of the planets have chakra ,and the earth has chakra, that's why the planet has chakra and that's why "Nature Chakra energy" exists as well. IT'S NOT A RETCON IF THIS WAS EXPLINED by Hagamoro Otsutsuki him self. besides before Kagyua Otsutsuki appeared nobody in Naruto's world knew what chakra was ,Nor had the power to obtain chakra ,so that's why Hagamoro and the Otsutsuki clan makes sense. Check your Naruto lore please.evetyhing that is spiritual about chakra comes from the "Otsutsuki Clan" but the planet of Naruto's world could not use ,or sense chakra before Kaguya Otsutsuki came and gave birth to Hagamoro Otsutsuki and Hamurura Otsutsuki. All the clans in Naruto come from ancestors who were never part of a clan before Kagyua Otsutuski landed to cultivate the life force of Naruto's world and kill it off before Kagyua Otsutsuki changed her mind and decided to get laid by Naruto's world natives instead.
@@VanLe-gk3ie what's up with people saying "editors forced" this and that, where's your proof?
@@victorn2555 The proof is Boruto’s existence. The Boruto movie and “The Last” was in pre-production when the manga was still ongoing. The studio needed a villain for the next series which is why Kaguya was introduced.
The fact that defeating Jigen with Kirin would’ve not only given us nostalgia, retained the value of jutsu, and make perfect sense plot wise… we got GREAT VALUE JIRIYA and a glorified bonfire 😭💀
The problem Sasuke would have had to manipulate the weather to even use kirin
@@MrPizzaSUS exactly… a perfect reason to conveniently bring Kirin back into the story. It fits the plot.
@@MrPizzaSUS I’d rather see Kirin than to get flames randomly summoned from a mountain we’ve never seen or been to.
@@MrPizzaSUS which would’ve added strategy to the fight like it did against Itachi.
Ok but u do realise the dimesion they were in is not the same as the earth right? 💀 please explain how sasuke is able to manipulate the weather AND HAVE prep time to do that,wouldnt jigen just shrink himself if he saw kirin?
Amaterasu is now even more irrelevant, and it hurts because it’s so cool to look at. But with all these taijutsu necessities, where are the Hyuga and Rock Lee?!
Brian mode just like that😭
Not sure if you've done a video on this before but this reminds me how healing in the Naruto verse has evolved. It went from slowly being able to stabilize or healing a person very slowly. A few Ninja like Tsunade or Kabuto were versed well enough to heal them selves at a cost. Later on medical ninja just become a back up battery to the main characters, especially starting in the 4th Great War, or more particularly Karin.
Everyone absorbs jutsu except sasuke 😭
Yeah, especially in boruto, where he's much more "experienced" with it.
Sasuke is disrespected in Boruto.
@@kijanajenkins2546 "iM oUt oF cHakRA"
Bro i feel like kisimato didn't want to draw long battles
Kishimoto is not writing boruto and Naruto fight are amazing not every fight need to be long and kishimoto has time limit remember he was working in the weekly manga so he had to save time
@@ayhamahmad2277 bro whatever the other guy is called he is way worse
While I agree on the whole, I hated absorption back with the Preta path. Like you mentioned, it's like a super convenient bottomless pit and they don't seem to bother using that chakra or noting any boost to their own chakra supply in general, not until near the end where Sasuke absorbs some chakra from Naruto to power up his last chidori which was the first time I cared about the Preta Path being used. Same with the damn absorbing ninja tools and karma, the absorption seemed limitless. I do have some exceptions and disagreeances, though;
Getting around Madara's preta path wasn't good; it took like ALL of them making a multi-layered plan along with the susanoo excuse just to get around it! The plan was cool, but also showcases how utterly broken Preta path is.
Kaguya was definitely worse than Momoshiki. I liked Momoshiki's power in that he could absorb it, but could also fire it back amplified. And he had a weakness in destroying the eyes in his rinnegan hands, or simply catching him off guard, like striking him in the back or something. Meanwhile Kaguya was just treated as straight up jutsu-immune from any angle, no real weaknesses.
I liked Delta's absorption too because at least she showed a limit to the amount she can absorb and can also fire back the jutsu, it wasn't like the chakra was being dumped into an empty void that may or may not be used later. Kawaki's I'm okay with too because he at least also fires it back in the form of a blast. Boruto's though, is just going into an empty void again, which makes jutsus feel hollow, without impact. Because when they are absorbed in that manner, they effect nothing.
Very good points
Using Sage power could of been something to combat chakra/ninjutsu absorbtion, due to it being very hard to control. However, all Otsutsuki seem like they get that pass.
he didn't absorb naruto's final rasengan in valley of the end because he states just after he absorbs narutos chakra that he has used too much to keep using his rinnegan abilities and closes his eye. (side note) just rewatched it and he actually says he can't use his rinnegan anymore before he absorbs naruto's chakra so idk, the inconsistency is crazy
I also think every other Ohtsosukki absorbing chakra so everyone is immune to ninjutsu and on the other hand Sasuke forgot to use any rinnegan or sharingan ability and master of strategist and also fastest⚡⚡ ninja didn't even protect his rinnegan the way Sasuke losses rinnegan is most disrespect moment of all time
Boruto gave Sasuke a Fat L
Tbh its not like sasuke used his rinnegan much. He was basically using substitution jutsu with it which is disrespectful to the rinnegan
He was tired and barely had chakra, his rinnegan abilities use way more than anything else he doesnt have infinite chakra like naruto he just has good chakra control. Tired, out of chakra and caught off guard so he lost his rinnegan. He couldnt even sense boruto
@@iiNuance bro this man fight five kage and kill danjo also fight with kakashi
and clash chidori with naruto on one day capture all the nine beast with rinnegan fight with sage of six path naruto and he got rinnegan recently he used very well and his chakra is amp by rinnegan and
Also he fight naruto after defeating kaguya
also best rinnegan user is nagato
@@maalikserebryakov right
Almost all Ninjutsu absorbers where killed by Ninjutsu, absorbing isn't killing Ninjutsu its just forcing the people to use it strategically and not just spam endlessly.
Momoshiki was killed by a rasengan, which is a ninjutsu.
Delta was killed by a rasengan, another ninjutsu.
Jiggen died to a summoning jutsu.
Isshiki died to a shadow clone which is also a ninjutsu.
Thanks for the breakdown!
Boruto producers probably take a look at Naruto and have no idea on how are we gonna present a new threat that Naruto, Sasuke and the surviving characters wont destroy immediately
critique of your point about the preta path: Nagato was an expert at using the rinnegan and is the only human character in the entire verse who grew up with a rinnegan and had it for his entire life. Madara awakens it at the end of his life and sasuke awakens it during the war arc. Out of all human characters, Nagato is the most skilled at using the rinnegans abilities because of his time and training. When sasuke fights naruto, he has only figured out how to use a couple of its abilities and even in boruto it seems as if he still isn't skilled at all the rinnegan;s powers, as he doesn't use the vast majority of its arsenal ever. Sasuke was likely not skilled enough in the preta path to simultaneously use a jutsu and absorb ninjutsu. its honestly not fair to compare nagato to any other rinnegan user because of his natural chakra affinity from his Uzumaki heritage and the fact the he spent the most time with a rinnegan than any other character. he is a special case. The rinnegan has been shown to need training in order to be used effectively during the war arc after sasuke gets his rinnegan. throughout the fight he is experimenting with it and doesn't seem to know its limitations yet. this is different from the mangekyo, which has been shown to be sort of instinctual, such as when sasuke activates the susanoo the first time or when obito awakens his mangekyo. They seemed to know exactly how to use it immediately, while the rinnegan has been shown to have a learning curve. Obito only had the rinnegan for a couple days, and only knew its abilities from watching nagato, so of course he doesn't use all its abilities.
I love your calm voice, you really calms me everytime 😏🖤
Dude! Your channel is awesome!
Stamina is also an issue. Chakra absorption may not fully diminish fatigue
Like it's not net neutral? But you have to spend just a little bit more chakra then you can absorb? That would make sense
You bring a good point. Not every villain needs ninjutsu absorption. At the very least, put more limitations on chakra absorption. Why not have a ninjutsu absorption that only works on lighting jutsu.
Being honest, when we think about how ninjutsu works, and how it was worked exhaustively throughout the series, it makes a lot of sense that now, in the Boruto series that is a post-war era where they faced this type of techniques they ended up developing their own. It also marks the series on its unbalanced use of ninjutsu all the time with very little exceptions and the sporadic use of taijutsu and the almost non existing use of genjutsu. No wonder why they have to Amp up ninjutsu all the time and negate it all the time, because it's everything there is now. It would be incredible if the series come back to the balance of nin/tai/genjutsu and how to counter each of them.
Take it from this perspective. The shinobi world may have come too reliant on do-, gen-, and ninjutsu. Everything has become an out of this world spectacle and become over powered "magic." Even more so with ninja tools and chakra controlled "guns." If you can absorb all of that, then really all that's left that would be an effective fighting style is basic taijutsu and kenjutsu. We are seeing the literal rise of the Eight Gates and all of Might Guy's and Rock Lee's teachings and way of life. Things are on the path to possibly going back to the fundamentals, the way of life before there was even chakra.
I'd like to see more fights with weapons. Not "magical" weapons like the Seven Swords of Kirigakure, but your regular swords like the samurai had. Or ninjato.
Special shurikens could also do, though. Fuuma Shuriken deserves more screen time other than just that fight with Zabuza.
@@mahiru20tenwe could be going back to it if the comment above us is to be believed.
You'd hope this would be Lee's time to shine and have ninja return to basics with taijutsu and strategy
Hand-to-hand combat is very creative from an animation point of view, Instance of using big flashy FX they have to fight in interesting ways in hand-to-hand
We need a Naruto "brotherhood" kind of series. Every interesting moment within naruto has a "oh why dude, you had me and you ruined it" moment
I’m assuming the boost of characters with chakra absorption is because they wanted to tone down the fights for Boruto and in Boruto “shippuden” the introduction of shinjutsu will be jutsus that can’t be absorbed and more sage users to combat them so that way the fights can be tuned up later in the series
Tbh the weakness of the karma not being about to absorb ninjutsu that’s created naturally could bring ninjutsu back to relevance because it makes the characters have to fight smarter.
For example karma can’t absorb shadow possession so shikamaru has that in his favor.
Next fire, remember Asuma would create ash clouds and kept flint in his teeth to spark a flame, that natural fire you can use for fire jutsu.
If you fire a fireball in the sky like Sasuke you can create storm clouds and use natural lighting
You literally walk on earth so earth style would definitely be more relevant vs karma
If you fight next to big body’s of water that’s your water element
And finally wind is literally all around you everywhere because it’s the air itself so you have that advantage
But tbh absorption isn’t just a Naruto/boruto issue it’s a media issue because you can point to multiple anime’s and comics that use the ability in some shape and form because when you scale powerful characters finding a way to match them becomes increasingly harder
Your good at finding plot holes and inconsistencies.
It's funny reading comments from people trying to counter them because they need to reach so far and dig so deep for reasons.
If you think he finds plot holes and inconsistencies, please read the manga for yourself. Because all he does is cap
@@GrimmtokiAMV Been a Naruto fan since 2004, before it was even released in America.
But as much as I like it, it definitely has plot holes, ret cons and huge inconsistencies.
Perhaps you should read the manga again?
@@andrepayne4349 you should see his points on his video about 8 gates Guy fighting obito, dyno thinks guy would win when obito had ten-tail because he couldn't use his Sharingan, but then say Guy would lose to obito before he even absorbed ten-tails.
I love how people are complaining about how the jutsus and abilities are getting killed when that's literally the ENTIRE point of Boruto which has been said in episode 1.
*"The age of shinobi is over."*
jutsus and techniques are overwhelmed by technology. The only way to compete is either alien abilities or an insane amount of tech.
They realised absorption of Jutsu was getting out of hand when they retconed Momoshiki absorbing Shikamaru's shadow possession jutsu.
Seems even those writing are seeing the problem with absorbing jutsu
I'm amazed to see Naruto fans struggling to accept that Kishimoto fucked up.
EDIT: Genjutsu is not a thing anymore.
Yes, indeed.
The amount of bs fans have to come up with just to justify Madara's asspulls is incredible, really.
Also, all of the writing problems Boruto has can be traced back to Shippuden in some way, shape or form.
I happy with it and it leads more hand to hand fights and we have shinjutsu now..
I will never understand people that defend Boruto and say it’s a good show. Like to even make the anime watchable they say you have to watch it like a seasonal anime. Yeah that’s what I want the sequel of Naruto to be. A show where you can only watch for about two months at best and then have to wait an entire year till you can watch it again.
Mhm
I believe they just added it in because they either couldn’t be asked to draw jutsus or they just wanted every fight to be taijutsu based.
That way nobody would complain about the characters straight up not using any jutsu.
It would’ve been fine if there was some limit or if it was rarer. Like have the absorption be exactly like androids 17 and 18. Make them have a limit.
Finally someone says what needs to be said. Preach brother
Reminds me of regeneration abilities in the later dragon ball manga...
The sage mode limitation of the preta path is a massive misconception due to poor translation. The reason Naruto could destroy the preta path is because he was actively absorbing nature energy into himself. However before he could merger it with his chakra to create sage chakra, pain absorbed it along side his chakra. And pain not being a sage couldn’t control it and prettified. However if the chakra and nature energy is already made into sage chakra. Then anybody can use it, as demonstrated by madara.
"It was poorly translated"
I guess I was the only person on this planet who watched it in English Dub?
Or maybe the words "Nature energy... not very easy to control isn't it?" wasn't very simple to understand?
@@zqninja3334 No it was contradictory if you watch the fight. Naruto himself says Nature energy is really hard to control when pain immobilises him and absorbs his energy. However Pa Frog then goes on to say something about pain not being able to handle sage chakra. Which is I assume a translation error. Because pain’s absorbing path only lost due to absorbing Naruto energy not sage chakra. Anybody can use sage chakra once it has been created. It is creating said chakra that is extremely difficult and risking.
@@haydenscholze7452
"Sage chakra is hard to control"
"PAIN CAN'T HANDLE SAGE CHAKRA!!"
... am I the only person that understands English here? THEY'RE INFERRING THE EXACT SAME THING, PA JUST EXPLAINED WHAT HAPPENED EVEN FURTHER, CAN YOU PLEASE JUST USE GOOGLE TRANSLATE IF YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND BASIC ENGLISH?!
@@haydenscholze7452 Let me spell it out for you,
Pain can not handle Sage Chakra
Pain absorbed Sage Chakra
Pain turned into frog because he absorbed Sage Chakra
And that is exactly what both Naruto and Pa said with the words "He cannot handle Sage Chakra" and "Sage Chakra is hard to control". period.
@@haydenscholze7452 Writers that write dialogue don't give complete exposition so you toddlers don't feel like toddlers while watching, they hope you have a semblance of a brain cell so you can piece together what happened yourself, which what happened was pretty fricking obvious, I was like... 9 when I watched that scene, and it was pretty fricking obvious to me what happened.
Sasuke couldn't do the absorption like that because, as he stated, he's not experienced enough to use multiple Rinnegan abilities together or with other moves.
This is kishimoto coping hard after accidentally giving Sasuke a broken ability 😂
He made obito say something similar to explain why isn’t using the absolute broken abilities of the rinnegan.
muh chakra and muh preference
😂😂
@@maalikserebryakov from what I remember Obito didn't use them because it WOULD cost a good amount of chakra and he was facing off against people who had knowledge of how to counter the abilities so it would be a waste of chakra.
@@JanizMakudomaru people who knew how to counter the ability? you mean naruto who was getting bodied by the exact same abilities once again in the fight against nagato? naruto who also couldnt even land a rasen shuriken on madara because of the rinnegan? bruh the only person there who was a danger against someone using the rinnegan to is full potential was gai.
@@potheadraccoon8536 1. Don't move the goalpost because we're talking about the fight with Obito. 2. In the fight with Obito Naruto was on alert to watch out for which ones had which abilities so he could counter them which is how WE found out Obito wasn't sharing. 3. I'm talking about Naruto, Kakashi, AND Guy.
@@JanizMakudomaru not moving the goal post what you talking about im saying that gai was the only person there that could give someone fully utilizing the rinnegan (which obito wanst doing)trouble between naruto kakashi and gai because of gates being pure raw taijutsu.
kishimoto got it so that he could scale down the fights to proper hand to hand combats instead of just flashy jutsus
My head Canon is that absorbing stuff with the preta path costs. So you begin with a deficit. So you ought to hope whatever you are absorbing makes up for that deficit and then some. Imagine it this way
Preta path absorption: -35Chakra
Healthy Rasengan: +40
Valley of the End Fatigued Rasengan: +20
Fresh batch Kurama Chakra: +40
Some things just aint with absorbin.
It was cool when only kisame and that sasuke oponent could absorb chakra, and it was still cool when pain had it, even madara he could absorb chakra but it was his special ability, i mean he used uchiha reflection with his fan, it was still cool because not all charecters had it and it didn't brake the system, i mean madara could absorb ninjutsu even before he had the rinigan but when naruto hit him with that lava style rasenshuriken he didn't absorb it, presumbly because his chakra absorption had some limits, but in burto everone can absorb chakra even minor vilians, and it doesn't have a limit, i mean samehada was the best weapon any shinobi can have in the original serios, but it's literly useless in buruto, because if you are strong enough to be relevant you propably alrady can absorb chakra
i feel like it was a way to make cool taijutsu fights and to prevent them having to write any new jutsu for naruto. i hate all the ablities that are just negation abilities. the absorption, the Boa Hancock power, and the "you cant damage me as long as you want to damage me" BS in Boruto.
So far only 4 Boruto villains had it Ishiki,Urashiki filler, and momoshiki and delta have chakra absorbtion. the rest of Boruto villains do not even have it. Daemon and Edia do not have chakra abortion ether and none of the other members have Karaa have it ether not even code has the Justu absorption skill ,yet he his karma does not absorb justu it creates rifts in space in stead.
I think you overlooked a single scene, a one page technique of Madara's that is not absorption or some special power. That he uses once and never again.
The wiki calls it Uchiha Return. The wiki describes it as the user nullifying the effects of an attack by converting it into wind chakra , which is then reflected back.
He can just poof any jutsu into another chakra nature and throw it's own power and effect back. Given the effect in the fight, it most likely converts it back to it's original form cause I haven't seen spontaneous explosive air before.
What's even more hilarious is how the wiki describes it as a B-rank wind jutsu.
B rank being for jutsu of Jonin or even Chunin and "B-rank techniques are typically useful and can be learned relatively easily with enough time, such as the Shadow Clone Technique.".
So lore wise Madara and Obito already had an op instant chakra absorption converting counter technique that anybody can learn.
And it's apparently so easy that even Kiba could learn it, as he already learnt shadow clones.
Realistically this would've made the alien reflect attacks hilarious.
"Oh you're throwing back my attack at double power? poof. Now it's gone. Poof. Now I throw it back again."
The most ridiculous game of ping pong.
And with it's classification of absorption, you could technically just nullify all jutsu and absorb part of it, then throw the rest back.
its the giant middle finger to almost every single ninjutsu.
the only explanation I can think of for sasuke not absorbing more ninjustu is that he wasn't as skilled with it yet I think he said something like that in the final battle with naruto that he was adapting more to the rinnegan so maybe he couldn't do it as often as he liked of course that's just me trying to make sense of it all
still think Naruto using his sage mode to frogger the pain body was a clever use of nature energy
That would make sense, except Sasuke aborbs both the Bijuu and Naruto's own chakra in that same final battle. He then just like... never uses it again -I honestly can't recall a moment where Adult Sasuke has used the preta path? I mean surely he's had to have used it at least once.
Nobody besides Pain should have had the 6 paths abilities imo. He was the definitive Rinnegan user, and I think it would have made him stand out more if the other users of the Rinnegan simply had different powers derived from it. It took Nagato a long time to master the Rinnegan powers, and it would make sense if he tailored them as personal techniques.
@@boianko at least he got to keep his summons
@@lightyoshiman The angry Rinnegan Panda 🐼 is just Nagato's personal fluffy buddy
Brouto as series is a failure
Nope he is still has top views so as a series it's just success and it's just start. Kisimoto is legend for nothing
The declining manga sales and hiatuses agrees with you.
@@anos67 Nowhere as iconic and universal as Naruto tho
@@soyjoyy STRONGER THAN NARUTO BUT NOT AS GOD AS NARUTO . NARUTO IS ON THE TOP .
I feel it was kinda necessary and liked the limitation Boruto gave--it only works on chakra itself, not jutsu that controls real elements. This allows for the potential of using jutsu without making fights kamehameha slugfests. (...Too bad they don't take advantage of this weakness.)
I remember the days when one rinnegan was the end of the world and now it’s “Hey you want one? Here you can have one to!”
If there were peculiar ways in Boruto where ninjutsu can actually deal damage instead of being absorbed, it would've been great.
I still have hopes on the Boruto series, maybe they are going to introduce such a thing.
You technically can. You can throw or summon real objects (Ninja items are always good) and Taijutsu being a focus keeps battles better than throwing giant energy bombs.
@@zeppelincraft1443 true, it also allows for great choreography
@@awesomepotato4499 Karma is good because it needs to be absorbed by hand. Also it’s not a self-sufficient ability where the practitioner can drain chakra for more chakra for more drainage, which an Otsutsuki CAN do.
IMO Boruto needs some unique way of fighting as a character which would be a breakthrough. Naruto cheated his way out with his clones in training after all.
@@awesomepotato4499 maybe, but Ikemoto sucks dick at drawing fights
I actually believe that ninjutsu absorption is the fatal outcome of this world.
It always revolved around ninjas and therefore ninjutsu, so it was bound that someday, there would be a "natural" counter to it. Balance is always the aim.
theres no balance to that with are you talking about it's completely destroys nijutsu
I think the way to balance it is to make it like a buffer to charkra to a cap, like a battery that can charge to 120%. The rest has to be burned off as you absorb . Or it requires some chakra to start the absorb
Quick fix, add poison chakra. If the ninjutsu gets absorbed it damages the absorbrer.
Sasuke with the rinnegan is one of the biggest downgrade there is. Dude literally can do 6 path jutsu yet the best he do is some teleporting shit that uses too much cakra. He even barely use chibaku tensei which probably is the basic rinnegan skill. He if he wanted heck could revive the whole uchiha clan.
Reading these comments makes me realize that a lot of Naruto fans and especially Boruto fans have NO media literacy.
So what u say at some points and i agree with that, isn't that this ability on its own is the problem but rather that the writters don't handle it well, which is what causes problems.
Absorbing energy/attacks is a staple of shonen manga since the beginning and honestly, yes even though i haven't read every shonen ever, i can't think of a series that was ruined by it.
So i rly feel its formost a writting problem and more a symptom than the problem itself. Every type of attack, power or whatever can be turned bad if the writting relies on it to heavily a sign that perhabs the story or at least the authors ideas for the series have run its course.
Famous example are transformations in dbz/gt/super. Just because that series overuses them doesn't mean that they aren't still one of my favorite things in shonen in general.
Bro really said Bryan mode, like bro it's Baryon mode
I disagree that Momoshiki vs Naruto and Sasuke wasnt a good fight. That fight was VERY cool.
Specifically the Anime version
I presume he means strictly from manga. That fight along with the Baryon fight and the Jigen vs Naruto Sasuke fights were pretty good in the anime.
I have to agree though, the fights in the manga don't really pop like they did in Naruto and Shippuden.
First? First.
I think absorbing ninjutsu is harder than absorbing pure chakra. That's why Sasuke only absorbed Narutos chakra and never his ninjutsu.
Ever since Kaguya appeared, Naruto franchise became a walking corpse, and still is.
RIP BOZO
The, Ninjutsu absorption adds an interesting dynamic to battles and strategy in the Naruto franchise. It's all about keeping things fresh and exciting, in my opinion.
Well, my thoughts about the Preta Path (ignoring Burito):
Basically, the ability consists of two different versions of the absorption jutsu. One for absorbing chakra on direct contact. You need to touch the opponent or the attack to absorb it, like Pain did on Naruto, Madara did on Hashirama and Sasuke on Naruto. That's the passive ability someone could use who awakened the Rinnegan, but also when you opened it.
The other one is absorbing on an little distance, like Pain did most of the time. You need to open the Rinnegan to use this. Because of that Madara could only absord the Amaterasu after it burnt his armour.
Furthermore, like SM, it works only when you are not moving and needs a little time to initiate. That's also the primary reason neither Pain/Nagato nor Sasuke used the path on touch in every single moment in battle. In every moment the body using it didn't move.
Lastly, the power of Doujutsu is greatly improved when you have two. At the Rinnegan it means, when you have both, you can use all paths at once, while with only one eye, you are limited to only one path. That's the reason Nagato could use all of the paths as he wished to, while Obito was limited to use the outher path to control and bind the bijuu. Madara also didn't use much of the abilities while he only had one eye. When he gets the second, he uses Limbo and the Deva Path at the same time.
That's what I think.
Every time Obito gets a power up, the dumber he gets.
Sasuke was using the Rinnegan on instinct. He said he is getting a hang of this and Kurama said Sasuke was just almost getting use to using the Rinnegan just before his other half was put under a genjutsu with the rest of the Bijuu
19:49 now the strongest flames are the ones Koji uses.
Don't know why but watching this man shit on boruto while eating dinner has become my daily routine.
Awesome video! btw Baryon is pronounced 'berry-on'
i like to believe that in order to use the Preta Path it requires alot of chakra to activate it
No, it doesn't Sasuke uses it on Naruto without chakra
@@DygoKnight does that technique have any downsides?
@@the_british_islesno
@@LordDecader_Edits thats lame i wish there was some kind of catch or weakness
Nagato wasn't "an old man" in his edo tensei fight. Remember, his hair was gray fron rinne rebirth's stress on the body and he was skinny because of the chakra depletion caused by the Gedou mado. Absorbing Bee's chakra just restored his chakra reserves.
This is all Kishimoto's fault. He made Shippuden basically a mage manga where everyone was in a competition to cast the biggest and flashiest spell, which was a significant departure from the earlier far more technical Naruto era.
Then he wanted to emphasize melee fighting in Boruto and had thus to somehow nerf ninjutsu which at that point had escalated to ridiculous levels.
If he did things the other way around he could hace had more melee technical fight in Shippuden which was mostly about ninjas fighting each other and only start escalating ninjutsu to ridiculous levels in Boruto which is about cyborgs and Alien Gods.
The most interresting thing about Rewriting Naruto is that you have a ideia of what will happen, but, you still want to see what will happen, because you want to see what will happen and what will change. Like, i can't wait for the Great Ninja War, because i want to see the Tatics, the tension. Only imagining is exciting.
Absorbing chakra (energy) is one thing and absorbing ANY kind of ninjutsu as I undertstand is a completely different thing, because in the first case they are absorbing Chakra directly from the opponent in its purest form, while a ninjutsu is already a manifested form of chakra as an attack? how can they absorb any kind of elemental attack is never explained and makes no sense to me. In part 1 worked well but in shippuden is just too op
I don't think you quite understand, Dygo. To Shueisha, it's no longer the "Naruto" franchise. It's the "Boruto" franchise.
I'm actually kinda happy that they aren't spamming this jutsu in boruto, they aren't using it as much as i thought they would tbh.
Who calls the Yoroi fight forgettable? That’s got one of my favourite scenes in the whole series, the og lions barrage
Btw the reason sasuke didn’t absorb during the final battle is cause Naruto held his attack till the last second as Kurama told him to as it was stated.