Are DH bikes faster today or is Peaty just slower? 2006 vs 2021 V10 race bike down Le Pleney.
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- Опубликовано: 25 окт 2021
- Is Steve Peat faster down Pleney on his 2006 Santa Cruz V10 race bike or on his 2021 29er Santa Cruz V10 with all the latest and greatest components?
Bikes have got longer, more stable, more durable and suspension has got much better, right? Steve Peat dusts off his 2006 race bike (that he won the World Cup Series Overall on), some old race gear and tries to put down a heater on Morzine's famous Le Pleney downhill course. Can he even get close to his time on the current day race bike? You might be surprised at the result. Maybe Peaty was in his prime in 2006... 
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Nodoby's mentioning how the sound track was matching the 2006's era. I found it awesome. Will Berridge, good job!
sounds like its ripped right from sims 2
Actually the music reminds me of a decade even before that. 1996 with the song Firestarter by Prodigy.
im pretty sure its an omage to the Parks and Rec intro
Love the drum & bass.
Reminds me of worlddance 93 Lydd Airport.
Im actually imoressed Santa cruz did this, you may tought they would want to promote new sales, now is a win win, you can ride a 2006 v10 and win and i assure you this transparency and consistency over time will deliver new sales and followers.
Kudos!
This is kind of a win win for their marketing by showing that their bikes will maintain value (or at least speed)
Also a lot of people who buy new dh bikes rather than an enduro, are racers of some kind, so the winning margins are actually still kind of big
I remember years ago asked for the weight of one of their XC frames. They gave me back the weight of every single size, no questions asked. Most brands (at least back then) wouldn't give it out for FS bikes and if they did, they'd weigh the smallest. Impressive transparency.
So good!!!! Love seein ya steeze out on the old rig peaty dog
#ALLHAILPEATY - that ruled! the ridiculous thumbs down has to be from the 2006 rear wheel.
😂. That old thing looked like a fifty pence piece.
@@santacruzbicycles2841 it looked bent
xx
I still have my 2001 Santa Cruz Super 8 with Marzocchi monster t's and 24 x3 inch gazzaloddi's. Old school rules!
Do you still ride it? If so we want to see a photo.
I have a santa cruz bullit 2003 too, with Rock Shox Boxxer and i Ride all day with them.
Its almost like Ratboy is his mechanic.
His brother
Glad I'm not the only one thinking this😂
Wait, it's not?! ;-)
Miss rat boy.
@@roryhaggerty7768 totally.
Love these sort of comparisons. we don't all have the money to buy the latest and greatest and videos like this show that just because you don't have latest gear doesnt mean you can't have fun and go fast.. fantastic stevo
You don't need 10 000 dollar bike to have fun nor to be fast...
It sounded like the 2006 bike was actually more fun for him
@@joemcmanus3585 I figured it would out corner the bigger bike. The only reason the 29er won was it rolled over obstacles with less impact and then the rolling mass helps it keep momentum. But just a smidge. Smaller wheels are way more fun and playful.
@@deanhenthorn8674 He mentioned he took it easy because his brakes were burning out . Change the brakes
@@deanhenthorn8674 if your a tall rider small wheels arnt much more playful and fun really.
Amazing seeing the Peat back on the 2006 seat, I’ve still got my 2006 Norco Dowhill Team bike on 26”S practically unused and have never ran or used a 29” or a 27.5” in my life. 41 year old this year 26” every time!🤘
Same here……have never ridden a 650b or 29er. My 2007 Yeti 575 is plenty good for me.
if it shreds, it shreds!!! latest aint always the greatest!! :)
😎
So in conclusion all MTB's are good and Peaty's still got it. Right, I'm off to get a price check on a 2006 DH bike.
i picked up a 2007 kona stinky for £350 a couple years ago, got an 05/06 orange 224 for £350 last year... if you keep looking, bargains are abundant!!
He made the 26 look stupid fast back then. He still does. Awesome vid Peaty💪
Cause theyre faster rolling just have to be able to muscle them more in the rough.
Just brilliant! Been longing for a vid like this for simply ages. For the average or beginner recreational rider, there is a lot to be learned here. And, of course, Peaty IS the man.
Peaty’s attitude is the best!!
Couldn't agree more. He's a legend on and off the bike.
Big nostalgia hit and great to see Peaty in action as always. I forgot about Blackbox suspension, used to drool over that stuff as a teenager.
Always a joy watching and listening to Peaty. Legend 👊🏼
Got really nostalgic watching him riding a small bike, small handlebar, small wheels!
First XC race I ever entered back in 1992 or 1993 was won by Steve Peat. Amazing to think he's still at it 30 years on.
Love this! My regular bike is a 2021 Norco Fluid FS. A large frame 29'er. My park bike is a 2008 Giant Glory. Size medium w/ 26" wheels. Such a gnarly bike! Riding the two is just night and day.
I'm telling you right now I have a rigid mid 2000s 26" Kona I set up with a fork that put the bike as it would be with a 26" front tire and 100mm stock fork. After I finally had the stem and bars I needed that thing became a dream machine. Because of the 29" wheel dynamics it rides like it has more Rake. As such, it rides like it has a steeper head tube angle but the steering is on axis for greater leverage to overcome the extra contact patch.
Plus, when I put the 26 Holy Roller on I'm ready for Urban Big Kid BMX.
My Love Steve. Long live The Session
I wonder what 26 with modern geometry, modern damping and modern brakes would be like.
Fast
a lot of people run bikes like that
Would be perfect for your teenage kids.
@@brianbreen2499 who makes such a bike??
Check Rocky Mountain Maiden 2020 full 26" on Jordan Boostmaster channel, that bike fcking shreds!!!
26" is not dead 🤠🤘
They need to do the new bikes in the old colorways!
In about 2 or 3 years.
Totaly. New bikes liverys are quite boring, when we compare them to old colorful ones... Think about old Demo 8s... they were painted so beautifuly....
THAT"S the way to kick the off season of ! Superb content guys totally brilliant to watch
still riding my 2005 Nomad to this day!
05 Nomad such a blast! 👊✊
Awsome video you heard it from the man “if you learn to ride a bike well you can still go fast”…. Message to the masses to save some pennies & grab a retro rig & get out & shred!… well in peaty really enjoyed that!… ✌️
This is sick. Love the 20 year old house music on the old bike runs 😅
Ladies and gentlemen we have reached peak 29er! Let the transition back to smaller wheels begin ;)
29er makes sense on climbs/rocky slow stuff. High speed just seems to make less improvement
Great video. Really enjoyed watching this.
I remember the “old” v10 back in the days felt and looked like space technology 😃
Ah man good old days seeing Steve peat, I had a kona lava dome with rockshox forks way back in 97, oh how I loved that bike.
Wicked to see just how fast Steve still is!!
Peaty is as good today as ever. Unbelievably talented on a bike, and still loves it as much as ever. That's a champion.
@@santacruzbicycles2841 it gives me hope as I'm the same age as Steve! Lol
Fair play, you still fit in your ’06 gear!
Very impressive Steve, for someone who I used to watch back at the very beginning of your career 👍
so many memories and nostalgic watching that bike and kit
Great comparison video. Steve is an absolute legend, and the boy is still quick!!!!
Absolutely brilliant content. Bought an Orange 223 new in 2005 because it was a winning bike in the hands of Peaty. Wish I still had it to compare to my current bike.
Peaty's conclusion makes me happy. I've wondered if my faster times over the years have just been down to kit, but it's probably me improving more than I give myself credit for!
Absolutely epic video and I did come to the same conclusion riding my old and new mtb’s on xc/trail rides. It’s mostly the fear of death and crashing that is greater on the old ones
Best video in a while. One of the best of all time
AWESOME video!! Great job!
Thank you! Cheers!
Nice one Peaty, great to see some runs in Morzine.
so lovely to see old setup from 00's mtb movies in action! come on Peaty!
Love the old school look backs. Legend!
The old boy would still dust 99% of us on a bike.
Well.. Peaty .. would love to see you one day.. Stay Strong from Italy
That's awesome to see. 7 secs is massive in todays world cup races and the newer bike might get you to your final race run less fatigued I guess.
I’m building up a 26er trail bike for the next season after five years on 29 and 27.5. Just got to the point where fun takes precedence over strava times, and the recent trend of having trails imba’d into smooth flowy roller coasters with huge berms means plow bikes just don’t make sense for me personally.
I still have my 2013 DH bike for park laps. I don’t mind banging it up. The newer bike is for pedal days.
I’ve been using a 2009 giant trance as a trail bike for a few years and it’s not a bad bike, lighter than most newer bikes, only bummer is the geometry feels awkward/sketchy when you push it but it’s an awesome bike.
@@isaiascabral8663 I still have a 2009 Ibis Mojo HD. It’s an insanely capable all round bike, but I feel the same, if I go too hard on a tech or DH trail it does start to feel a little out of its element.
Unfortunately I finally gave up my 2003 Big Hit 26/24 mullet, but my 2013 Enduro EVO (26er) is getting mulletized this winter with a 27.5 front end after my Van 36 seals went.
Somebody needs to make a viable modern 26" fork.
Well done young man! 👌🏻
These hydroformed old V10 were beauties! 💙
Totally agree! Man it was sick to see you enjoy the old bike
Maaan,Steve Peat is a great rider!Always been a huge fan of this guy.I still remember him from back in the UK days, The GT days,(I still have my GT Lobo STS :) ...and from the video ChainSpotting...classic. Eitherway, Great video.Greetings from Norway ,Stefan
Love seeing peaty smashing down the hill!!!! Can't wait for next season Syndicate!!!
I think the increase in speed really comes down to the old school kit!
The songs on this video are so good hahah. Give the person in charge of the music a pat on the back from me.
Best thing I've watched all day....Quality....!
It's strange as whilst I have had plenty of modern bikes, I still keep a few old 26ers that I always rider more then my modern bikes. They have that smile factor that makes them so much more enjoyable.
Retro Peaty back in action !!! Man the old gear and bike are nostalgic !
Well Done Santa Cruz! This was a great flashback, some great tech on that 2006 for the time, those cranks for one were solid from RaceFace and the shorter bars made for a real direct steering setup vs the new almost effortless 29er rides… back then I think the fun factor was a lot higher imho.
Loved this!
If they lengthen the 26" bike wheelbase....
That was cool to see. Now i feel inspired to build my 2009 v10
Photos please!
Been discussing this a lot lately in verbier. Great comparison 🤟🏽
Glad it was helpful!
Mint took me back when had a VP FREE and i think the opening clip was Brazil maybe? such a legend and inspired a lot of people in the UK.
What a flipping wicked video. So good.
2006 looks so much better and only 7 seconds slower! Great video
This is properly cool! Thanks for making it!
Glad you like it! Steel City Media are our media magic makers. It was their idea (and it took a bit of convincing to get Peaty on the old bike).
Hi Santa C and Steel City Media. Absolutely loving your work and the tunes. It would be great if you could add the music used in your vids in the credits or the description. Both my apps are struggling to match the tunes with the audio over the top. Cheers
G
Ps yes thats all I want for Christmas
@@glenhamilton8414 here's what I got, using Shazam:
Bukam Bells - Florian (old bike run 2)
RUOCK IT - Jailed Jamie (old bike run 3)
Yardman Ting - Florian (new bike run 2 thru end of video)
Good il peaty never ceases to surprise me with his awesome riding.
Man I might have to look at getting bigger wheel bike I was still on the 26s, but seeing this has won Me over what peaty says the differences.
Good stuff. Now if you could make a video of Minnaar comparing his old Honda DH bike to his new bike that would be incredible
Legal, imagens de Balneário Camboriú, Brasil! Eu estive lá, fui Staff. Uhuuuu
I liked the parks and recreation vibe lol
You’re a legend, Peaty.
What a great video it's not what you ride but how you ride it. 👍🇭🇲
That was cool! Thanks guys. :)
Super sick concept, Rad to see Peaty on 26" in 2021!
Great video, Steve Peat is a LEGEND on any bike!
Couldn't agree more!
Did not expect that!
Peaty later tried again on a Raleigh grifter and was only 2.5 seconds slower
Great intro!
I'm glad you like it
Loved this.
i was impressed twice. first time when you did very similar time in 15years older bike, second that santa cruz official chanel let us watch it. #SKILLS
Love you Peaty...Legend!
Could almost see a tear in his eye when he got back on the old one. 26 will make a comeback when people realise it’s no fun just ploughing down a run.
Imho they should have mandated 26" and a wheelbase limit in pro DH.
i just hope the oval wheel doesn't come back.
but it is fun!
@@filipw8050 I'm for mandating square wheels.
I went biking just the other day and sampled a couple short DH runs, on a bike with 26" tires. I can't wait to return to the trail and try it again; it was really fun! Although I'm sure 27.5" is the sweet spot for downhill, I think 26" is nowhere as bad as some claim it is. It's not as though everyone is riding extremely technical terrain anyway.
That was an amazing ride from Peaty, like (old) David against (young) Goliath, but this rear wheel. ^^
That old wheel never stood a chance with Peaty the Goliath.
@@santacruzbicycles2841 ^^
Great video looking good on the old bike tho
Please bring Greg along to race the old V10 vs Peaty on the new!
Class, Peaty still rippin it 🤘 interesting vid though thought the gap between bikes would be alot more over a 3 minute run. 27.5 would be the swet spot I reckon
Back to the Sketch days 👊🏻
GREAT STUFF!!!!!
Intro has heavy parks and rec vibes
I love my 26.
Love it.
Fascinating 🧐 26” is not dead 👊
He looks like a freaking giant on the 2006 in the first few shots but by the end... it was looking like nice flowy fit! Its wild how much different the bikes were.
LOVE THIS
6:24
"Oh actually, she's not feeling to bad... UHHUGGUH"
Uff! Nice comparison. Now I am sure that my Orange Patriot 66 from 2007 is still an all terrain poem.
Will buy 29er for my xc rides. The old one from 1994 is just exhausted, of me :) although DeoreLX equipment still functions superbly.
Add modern suspension and carbon wheels to the old bike and I’d bet it would be within 3-5 seconds of the new bike. 26 for life!!!
They Just need to get back on rockshox.... that boxxer on the old v10 is still better than todays fox 40.
And if he had good brakes and wider bars he would have a lot more confidence in going flat out on the older rig. This is 2006 build 26” didn’t get crushed by the industry until around 2015 at the latest. A more modern 26 or at least one with better condition parts he would be very close if not the same…
@@drumandbassking12345 I concur.
Very expensive per second.
I'd say to the average joe :
Train more, improve your technical skills and confidence, keep this money to explore more trails. And most of all, have fun.
@@paddor Why are you mad bro? Are you triggered because some people just don’t like wagon wheels and would rather ride smaller wheels? Does it hurt your feelings because smaller wheels accelerate quicker, brake faster, handle better, jump better are lighter and stronger? Is that why you are mad or sad? You shouldn’t assume what trails I ride, because it makes you look like an ass. I happen to have a 29lb long travel enduro/freeride bike (180mm front and rear) as my main bike as well as a 32lb DH bike, both on modern suspension, 26” wide carbon wheels and modern components. Both bikes rip and BTW, I love monster trucking through steep rough rocky technical terrain at speed. If you can’t handle that go get a hug from your mom bro. It’ll be ok. 😂👍🏼
Like old times 🍻 legend
It's all in the rider, baby
the best bike is the one you have!
Old is Gold !
Peaty makes the best content, top bloke! The DH world isn't as good without him...
I get serious Parks and Recreation vibes from that intro music