DIY Rust Blue - Bluing with Peroxide, Vinegar and Salt
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- Опубликовано: 1 апр 2023
- DIY Rust Bluing Recipe:
4 TBSP Peroxide
1TBSP White Vinegar
3/4 TSP Non-iodized Salt
Boil in Distilled Water
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Kevin MacLeod - Matt's Blues
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Here's the link to Lufkin's The Amazing Story of Measurement comic book:
archive.org/details/LufkinTheAmazingStoryOfMeasurement/page/n19/mode/2up
Thanks for showing how accessible this process is with easy-to-obtain resources. Also, thanks for explaining the advantages -- better corrosion resistance was a pleasant surprise!
Thanks Scott! Check out my extended corrosion test:
ruclips.net/video/H9sngIhUGI8/видео.html
Thanks 357magdad ... thoroughly enjoyed the vid ... bluing is an art and the many ways of accomplishing bluing is the art-form, knowledge is power
I was taught Oil Bluing back in the 1970s and it was still being taught, by me as a technical teacher, till I retired.
Thanks for watching!
I don't remember what my teacher called it in my H.S. metals class, but we were taught to heat the item(in our case, a center punch) with an acetylene torch, then quench it in dirty motor oil multiple times. That was in 1977.
Oil bluing is good for thicker parts, because of the heat involved, rust bluing is recommended for shotgun barrels especially doubles. I think rust bluing is pretty cool, more true to most of my back powder guns periods
Turned out nice! I like the idea of using stuff you have around the house. Back when I reloaded a lot I used a mixture of water, salt, and vinegar to clean the cases. made the cases look new inside and out.
Thanks Michael!
You can do the conversion on small parts using a kettle to boil the water and a plastic container to hold everything...works well. For larger items, steaming in a tube works great for conversion.
Thanks for watching!
I learnt a very interesting new skil today and I'll apply it as soon as I can.
Thanks a lot!
Thanks for watching!
Very interesting! Never heard of this process. Thanks magdad!
Thanks Doug!
WOW 😎 The knurling looks great Nice look on the whole thing Looks cool watching it turn black
The red rust turns black like magic!
I Love this simple and informative video. You’ve got me motivated to do this on some small parts I have
I'm glad my video got you motivated! Let me know how you make out! 357mdad@gmail.com
Wow. This is what I was looking for! Been wanting to blue some parts but didn’t want to cold blue! That punch turned out awesome!
Give it a shot Aaron! Let me know how your project turns out!
Nice! I experimented with rust bluing many years ago. It was a lot of fun bluing various tools and experimenting with different acids for various results. That concoction makes a nice black. Pilkington results in a silvery gray like some of the old high end shotguns from England.
Thanks John! It was fun experimenting!
Very even coating Magdad! Looks great... I've been wanting to try some bluing... I think I'll try this type first. Thanks Magdad
Give it a shot and let me know how you make out!
This was so cool to watch. Very interesting. Thank you for making and sharing this video.
I'm glad you enjoyed it!
Never had heard of this technique - fascinating Magdad!
Thanks Chris!
Wow. I think I like the rust bluing better. You are so patient. I normally do not like bluing but now I may want to try that. Thanks for the video.
Find an old punch and give it a try Ben!
That was interesting Magdad! Can't say I knew you could blue this way. The comic book is cool too.. hope I run into one of those out in the wild one day..good stuff
Thanks Vic! The copies on ebay are not super expensive.
Wow what a great result. I should try this out... But I have so many projects in my mind.. Thanks for showing!
Thanks Alex! Give it a try on a punch or maybe a vintage engineer's wrench!
Wow that's awesome! I'm definitely going to try this sometime! Thanks for the info.
Thanks! Give it a shot!
Very interesting. First time I’ve heard of this. Nice job !
Thanks Kris! I used the same recipe on that blade of this vintage spokeshave:
ruclips.net/video/4iyyRY8nFdo/видео.html
Great experiment, MD!
Thanks! It was fun to experiment!
Thats super interesting! I use the same recipe for faux rust finish and had never heard you could ad a step for blueing. I cant wait to try it on something :)
Give it a shot and let me know how you make out!
This is a very interesting technique and something I would like to try. The punch looks great and I noticed the rust bluing seems to have a more uniform finish to it than the cold bluing. Thanks for sharing this.
Thanks John! If I took the tags off it would be hard to pick out which punch was rust blued.
That was interesting and good to know. The home brew looked as good as the commercial products. Thanks
Thanks Tony! It was fun to experiment!
Great photography. I’m VERY interested in doing some of my older firearms. I’ll keep watching
Thanks for watching!
Fascinating, nice work Magdad, that came out really well, amazing what you can do with a few basic ingredients, I just recently purchased some Hydrogen Peroxide for whitening some old discoloured plastic so might give this a try !
Thanks Andy!
Looks terrific! Great tutorial! 😃👍
Thanks ScoutCrafter!
Lufkin, great tools....great video too...cheers, Paul
Thanks Paul!
This was a new one on me and to quote Spock "fascinating". Thanks for the post.
Thanks for watching! Live long and prosper!
Excellent tutorial and result. Thanks
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the recipe. It’s working great on my FN Mauser.
I'm glad you had success Mark!
I learned something today. Thank you !
Thanks David!
Really interesting process. Thanks for sharing it with us.
I'm glad you enjoyed it!
I like it, going to give it a try on a couple small projects I have. Thanks for the video sir.
Give it a try and let me know how you make out Terry!
That really turn out real good Thank you for the video
Thanks for watching!
Fantastic job and a fantastic video thanks for sharing your time ☕👍🇬🇧
Thanks Brian!
I like how that turned out, I'm planning on doing a conservation to a JC Higgins shotgun and I want to keep it looking correct, and this looks a lot closer to and easier than most of the processes I've been researching. One thing I did notice in you video as compared to others I have watched is the prep you did before you started the process, they would disassemble the firearm and go directly into the first boiling treatment, without doing any of the prep you did.
Thanks for watching Wes! I think you can convert any existing rust by boiling also.
Very nice appearance. I like the even, mild sheen rust bluing provides. The superior corrosion resistence is certainly a big bonus.
Thanks Pat! It is a good look for vintage tools!
I've a load of old & antique tools that need refinishing. Some came with parts nickel, others japaning. But there's a load of items that this process will be the perfect finish
Thanks for making and posting this. Well done. I also did a version of this only with an axe head submerged into a mixture of Peroxide & Salt. (can't remember if I use Vinegar). heated the mixture in Stainless frypan on BBQ, submerged axe for a maybe 10 or so minutes. Took it out and ran cold tap water over it. Did this several times until entire axe head turned black. Someday I'll put a handle in it and hang it up. Thanks for your tutorial.
Thanks William!
Now, this is instructive. Thanks.
I'm glad you enjoyed it Larry!
WOW man!!! i had an object waiting for me to blue for the past year and i couldn't find an actual cheap recipe. where i live all chemicals and rust bluing products are scarce and expensive. thx you!!!!
Let me know how your project turns out!
Excellent!!!
Thank you for sharing!!!
Thanks for watching!
Another excellent video, thank you
Thanks Dale!
That's GREAT! Had no idea about this process. Definitely trying that on a knife sometime
Thanks for watching! Give it a try and let me know how you make out!
Very good inexpensive recipe. Thanks
Thank you!
Thanks for the instruction...it was great. Chris
I'm glad my video was helpful Chris!
Niiiiiiiice!!
I've always used manganese dioxide for bluing and it's nice to see something worth changing to that's not as toxic!
Thanks for watching! Give it a try!
Cool comic book and the punch looks good as new
Thanks Larry!
Before I scrolled down to see the uploader I guessed that Lufkin Comic was going to be another Mark Stansbury upload, that guy's an Uploading Beast! Over 7500 uploads.
archive.org is a great resource for vintage tool catalogs.
Interesting bluing process. Thanks
Thanks John!
Thank you! I may try this myself
Give it a try! Let me know how you make out!
Awesome video. I have cold blued many of my father's older guns. I definitely plan on using your process and formula moving forward.
Give it a try and let me know how it works for you!
Thanks, great video and info, got a lot of stuff to reblue and i was not about to go mess around with cold bluing again because results never really last or look good enough.
Thanks Lorenzo! Give it a try and let me know what you think!
Thanks for posting this... I was looking for a way to blue some antique firearms I'm working on. Thanks again.
I hope you have success with the process. There are some rust bluing solutions on the market that give a more antique color to the metal.
When cleaning, grinding small round parts, I chuck them in a cordless drill and run it in the opposite direction of the belt sander. It almost eliminates flat or uneven spots. It even helps with cleaning up the punch face.
Thanks Robert!
This is a very nice and informative presentation of a subject that has been shrouded in mystery for years. Your cordless drill will make a good addition to your belt sander for cleaning and round and tapered details. 12 gauge double barrels, not so much. ;-)
Thanks for watching!
Never tried that! Looks great should last a long time 👍
Someday I'm gonna try a knife blade!
Thank you many times over for your video
You're welcome Fred!
Thanks for the video man..👍
You're welcome!
Thanks I had no idea about rust bluing.
Thanks for watching Billy!
Thanks for the information fantastic job
Thanks Michael!
Fantastic. I cannot wait to do this to some pliers. Thank you. Now I have to figure out how to make distilled water and I have to find non iodized salt. Busy busy.
You can find distilled water and non-iodized salt at any grocery store.
@@357magdad I was kinda joking. I live in Japan so I always have to get my wife to translate my crazy requests. Good timing is called for. Non iodized salt is also called Kosher salt. Love your videos.
I use brake-kleen for nearly everything around the garage, except for items to be welded, including a couple of firearm components, plus the use of acetone. Recent experiments for my bluing have been greatly improved with use of Denatured Alcohol, instead of the prior mentioned cleaners. My bluing comes out so even and seems to have better saturation of the bluing chemical, and takes less time. I have a darker visible difference in the items blued when using alcohol as compared to acetone or brake-kleen. Thanks to this video, now I have alternate inexpensive materials to use and experiment with.
Thanks for watching!
Is "De-Natured" Alcohol the same as IPA *IsoPropalAlcohol ?
@@markoreilly3414Methanol alcohol with bitterant added, denatonium benzenoate I believe
Great video , many thanks👍👍
Thanks for watching!
Thanks! Great stuff!
I'm glad you enjoyed the video!
Came out nice. Next time you might think about mounting the punch in a drill chuck and spinning it while pinching it with the abrasive. Would also work with the wire brushes.
Thanks for watching Gary! The 1x30 sander does a nice job on the square end of the punch. I've had really good results with the Red Label conditioning belts.
ruclips.net/video/-txSVOHgptA/видео.html
Yep use the drill as a mini-lathe!
I love how he cut right to the chase you sir get a thumbs up and I'll be subscribing 😂
He's glad you subscribed! Welcome to the channel!
I have a bunch of tools to clean up from years of neglect. I've been just wire wheeling and oiling, but they still don't look great. I think I'll give this a try. It could give them a nice, uniform look so they would appear to belong together instead of just being a bunch of old tools. And extra rust resistance would be just the thing for tools that have already suffered enough rusting.
Give it a try and let me know how you make out!
thank you MagDad
It was fun to experiment Don!
been absolutely obsessed with this reaction recently! love the presentation, definitely subscribing. I wonder if you could somehow use this for fume bluing, I'm not sure if the acid lets off enough fumes though. I might have to try that out.
Thanks for watching and subscribing! I can't give you any advice on fume bluing. I'm not sure how toxic the solution is to breath.
nice video
I'm going to try that process.
You should do a follow up and test the durability between the two methods.
Thanks David! Give it a try! Check out my comparison videos:
ruclips.net/video/QkcKGgHGRo8/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/Z5ubCDqQwt4/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/H9sngIhUGI8/видео.html
tnx ! i just did a knife with your method it went great! forgot to buff before the oil but it worked anyway
I'm glad it worked for you!
The cold bluing looks like it worked good. Not only does it look nice, it offers some protection.
Thanks for watching Pete! The rust bluing offers superior corrosion protection.
Great new trick, thanks for posting. I patina a lot of different metals and have found that steel wool has oil on it to control rust and it will retard platinization on desired metal.
Thanks for watching Don! I make sure to clean the part with brake cleaner or denatured alcohol after buffing with steel wool.
Awesome video thank you
Thank you!
Thanks for the video. I recently purchased Oxpho Blue solution based on your earlier video. I will be using this for the first time soon when I cold blue the plates for a machinist clamp I am making.
The home-made bluing solution looks really good, and inexpensive.
Also thanks for the Lufkin article link. Very interesting.
Dave.
Thanks Dave! The Oxpho Blue seems like good stuff! Let me know how your project turns out!
I used this to blue some new screws I got for my air rifle. If doing multiple coats, I found that dipping in acid and then coating with plain H2O2 and salt solution was better than mixing all three together. Acid dipped just for the first coat, all subsequent coats were just peroxide and salt.
The acid soak was 50% acetic acid for 10 minutes.
Thanks for the info!
I generally heat blue small screws, in a bed of brass chips for uniform heating
Where did you get 50% acetic acid? Normal white vinegar is only 5% acetic acid.
@@MaximRecoil You'll have to get "glacial acetic acid" from a store selling lab chemicals or online. It's 99%+ pure acetic acid
great method! TY
Thanks for watching!
looks great!
Thanks Mark!
I don't want my comment to echo all of the others but that turned out nicely! I have some old tools to practice that technique with but have to get my 85 Kawaski 750 turbo bike back together first. Almost there!
You'll have the bike back together just in time for nice riding weather!
@@357magdad
It is one of 7. 5 rideable.
New subscriber here. Thank you for this great technique.
Welcome to my channel John! I hope you enjoy my content!
@@357magdad Thank you my friend.
Interesting stuff Bud!!☻
Thanks RoadKing! It was fun experimenting!
BTW, you can blue larger parts (like gun barrels) as long as at least 1/2 of the object can be submerged. Essentially, you boil one half for the color change and then the other half. As long as the boiled parts overlap, you can get a consistent result. I have heard of guys who can develop black oxide just by setting the item in a non stove top safe tube and then covering the object in multiple changes of boiling water. I didn't have any luck with this, but I really didn't try too hard.
You can also steam it. Just run a kettle up a pipe. Faster, easier and safer than trying to boil a 26 inch steel rod
I will try that next time.
You do not want to use this method for gun barrels. The peroxide can weaken hardened steel. That's very bad if you plan on firing said gun.
@@MrEazyE357 I would need to see the chemistry.
@@jachse8464ignore the hydrogen comment. It's complete bs...
The rust blueing is much warmer, thanks for showing the comparisons
Thanks for watching! There are some ready made rust bluing formulas you can buy that will give the metal different colors.
Well done, that came out really nice and even. That's thanks to the detailed carding - the better you card off the excess = the more even and deeper you get the finish. That is also why "slow rust bluing" is considered "slow". It's a time taking process which require reapplication after reapplication. The end results though, if done well, are not even very lustrous by also noticeably more durable than hot caustic bluing. You ought to give it a go with a full sized firearm sometime - you've got the methodology down, I'd bet you could come out with some really stellar results. Maybe just do a beater you pick up at a gunshow for that purpose.
Thanks for watching!
Full circle video for me. Project Farm is another favorite channel of mine and he uses this mix to speed rust stuff when testing products. I'm really interested in using the technique on knives, suggested it to Jeff Peters of Old Wolf Forge, my knifesmith, and the season 6 FIF Champion of the "Messer Sword" episode. Howard Clark, world renown American sword smith from Iowa uses it often
Rust bluing is a durable finish. I bet it would work well on a blade.
Very nice result. I have toyed a bit with hot bluing small parts on a vise I restored. It looked great on jaws and on swivel base screw lock assemblies. Have you tried hot bluing?
Thanks David! I've used flame bluing on several projects.
Great video.
Thanks!
Thank you
You don't need to fully submerge parts in boiling water. If you can construct a steam chest and pipe hot steam in, you can do much larger objects. A temporary steam chest can even be a big cardboard box with a hole at the bottom for an old school (no auto shutoff) electric kettle.. It will last long enough to do a whole rifle barrel and receiver and you can just toss it afterwards..
Thanks for watching!
Nice video by the way. 👍🖖
Thanks!
thaank U for being amazing
A very interesting project, do you think the surface finish of the object will make a difference to the finished result due to the reflection, the commercial cold blue comparison punches appear to have a smoother surface finish. Many thanks for posting this! Chris B.
Thanks for watching Chris! I finished all of the punches the same way.
I can't wait for springtime in Alaska, so I can work in my shop to try this. I have a lot of tools that need to re-blackened. (My shop isn't heated)
Give it a try and let me know how you make out!
Really cool
Thanks Daniel!
Looks great
Thanks!
@@357magdad Planning on trying it on an old mil-surp rifle magazine that had a poor cold bluing done to it
@@pickinthatbanjo Let me know how it turns out!
@@357magdad will do for sure, just need to resurface it. You'd swear they took a steel wire brush to it with how deep the scratches go.
Cool thanks for sharing
Thanks Michael!
Great info
Thanks!
Nice work, T/Y.
Thanks!
good job!
Thanks for watching!