Tesla Model Y Standard v Long Range real-world range test, review, owner feedback, efficiency !
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- Опубликовано: 18 апр 2023
- Tesla Model Y Long Range road trip to Cornwall.Tesla Model Y Standard Range is fairly new to the UK (First arrivals delivered end December 2022) so here is my first chance to review and get some handle on it's real-world range capability on a very wet and windy day in England in March!
I'll also run through any differences between this and the Long Range versions - anything different inside? Premium Audio on both? Interior space? Frunk Space?
Plus of course how is it to drive? Do I like the Real-wheel drive only version. I certainly do with the Model 3.
Is the Y quick enough with a 0-60 of 6.9 seconds? Well its slower than a lot of VE's but in the real world it's certainly fine and with effortless performance.
It's very nice, very efficient, the range is good for this size battery, the specification as standard is excellent, the cabin space brilliant. But there is that one niggle as ever with the Model Y - ride comfort.... it's ok on motorways but around town and country roads it's too firm for a non-performance variant!
Tesla should soon start shipping comfort suspension so I look forward to trying one of those soon hopefully!
If you have recently taken delivery of a Model Y Standard Range - let me know what you think of it so far!
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I like your reviews it’s not full of fluff and false excitement. You just get to the point and do your job professionally. At the end when you are saying “I hope that was helpful” I found myself replying back to you without thinking. “yes it was”
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Another insightful video 👍🏼 I’ve had mine for 6 weeks now and I’ve averaged 258wh/mile over 1250 miles. I did a 204 mile round trip Tuesday and arrived home with 9% remaining. Need to do a 214 mile round trip this Friday for work so anticipate it being the first time I’ll need to supercharge on the motorway. I reckon I’m getting almost 220 miles full range so comparable with this video.
Also pleased to hear you say the % shown on arrival is reasonably accurate. Driving home Tuesday I opted not to supercharge and it hovered around 8-11% for the journey home. I did often wonder is it suddenly going to drop a few % and I’ll be in a spot of bother.
I have a Y Long Range, and do long journeys, UK to The Alps in January and just driven across France to Spain, Barcelona onward to Menorca, supercharger network takes all the worry away, the winter alpine trip was obviously cold but we just let the car plan the route, the trip to Menorca we had 3 windsurfers on the roof rack, both trips the car is fully loaded with 2 adults and a dog, I can honestly say that I can get all the stuff we carried in our old Volvo XC90 in the Tesla, under boot is cavernous and also under front seats, day to day travel stuff in the frunk, ie dog food, overnight stop stuff. We did have very high consumption with all the kit on the roof but no stress due to the supercharger network, we probably stopped more regularly than needed but think it was 6 stops for 784 miles, absolutely love the car, very smooth and quiet, yes the suspension doesn’t like UK pot holes but in Europe roads are so much better. Down in Menorca I tow a box trailer with all the sails and 6 windsurfers, now that really hurts the range but have solar on villa roof so who cares, extremely happy with my Y, every car has things that you wish were better, but this car has exceeded my expectations, by the way French supercharger locations are really great, stopped at some great places with dog walks, shops for my wife, the car was well finished charging way before my wife returned. Super Happy
UK roads are so terrible now it almost doesn’t matter what you drive, or how good the ride is! Like you say, get a Model 3 or Model Y into Europe and they glide along on the smooth, well marked and mostly quiet roads over there.
I intend to keep my 3 for a long time and will probably upgrade the suspension to high quality comfort coilovers at some point.
@@itsbilln2178 I could do with a bit more ground clearance, I know you can get a lift kit, but will have to wait, as I’m not brave enough to retrofit it to such a new car
I really want to take ours on a route like that. Do you take Le Shuttle or ferry?
@@djtaylorutube when we went to the alps we did the tunnel, so topped up at the supercharger at the terminal, really easy
@@rwg2626 Thanks, that appeals to me most, not a fan of ferry crossings. Marred by doing the Harwich to Holland make years ago. The 9 hour crossing was one thing, it was the 2 hour loading and 2 hour unloading which really grated.
I'm contemplating Portsmouth to Santander and return via Le Shuttle. That way if the ferry trip really grinds, it's only one way. :)
Have MY RWD. First EV. Took some getting used to. Really impressed with it
I’ve have my RWD Y a month now and the efficiency over that time has improved as the weather has warmed slightly and the car battery has settled. Last journey was 227! Like you mentioned on previous vids it shipped with 49psi in the tyres. Agree that the wipers are annoying. I wish there was a normal cruise too, there doesn’t seem to be a way to not have traffic aware on? Maybe I’m
Missing the obvious! The best feature though is how much stuff you can get in it! 4 people, Labrador and a weeks luggage. No need for the roof box anymore!
Had a RWD since Feb and we love it. Being able to charge it to full is brilliant. Range has not been a problem, we're usually getting 3.8-4.0 mi/kWh. Suspension though is indeed far too firm!
Another belter & the Model Y is the one for me. I can see the Model Y being the class leader for Tesla for families alike.
Another class and informative video..... Thanks
I drove 200 miles today and probably touched the brake 3 times. You’ve got to love the single pedal driving
"Impossible! EVs are only suitable for staying within town and because they're heavy, they wear their brakes out more quickly."
Daily Mail comments section says so. ;)
As usual, brilliant!😀
Very useful
Great video Mate
Didn't hit play yet and already know this is gonna be high quality content 🫡
I was looking forward to hearing Chris’ “niggles”! Ordered mine for June delivery, hopefully has a slightly softer suspension, but not too soft!
Good video, much better than many others I've seen. My RWD MY is on order, loved the test drive and company car tax makes it a no brainer
VERY useful video indeed… Thanks.
Ride comfort - I swapped the wheels on my Model Y Long Range for 18” rims off a Model 3. They fit straight on and ‘just’ clear the brake callipers. I fitted 255/55/18 tyres which I’m convinced give a softer ride over harsh surfaces, and have a very slightly larger diameter so give better ground clearance - ideal for an all-season tyre option or for poor road surfaces.
The best feature of the Model Y/3 RWD is the LFP battery. It may only have 60kWh capacity, however it can be charged to 100% every day without worry. My Model 3 performance should only be charged to 80-90% for daily use. Within the real world,100% of 60kWh isn't much different to 80% of 80kWh (60 vs 64) for overall range. The RWD will also be slightly more-efficient than the dual motor. With hindsight, I probably should have saved £16k and gone for the base RWD model.
Edit: I always try to keep my Performance within the 20-80% charge range. I consider 20% to be the red-line as I always want to have a minimum of ~50 miles in-case of emergencies. This actually gives me a "usable battery capacity" of just 60%. If I had the RWD LFP battery my usable capacity would be 80% (20 to 100). Given my specific usage, I think the RWD's smaller battery would actually give me the same, or even a slightly-longer range.
Unreasonable whinge Richard !
It’s just two clicks to change lanes … one to indicate (a/p drops out ) then one click to re engage.
If you know if a car that’s simpler, pray tell.
I got the M3 RWD at the end of December. It makes now 220Wh/mi without trying to make economy, it is a greatly efficient car!
i get where you are coming from, however unless you're driving 214 miles daily, it's not really an issue. the times you need to do a trip with that sort of range, charge it to 100%, and enjoy the extra range? I would tend to think that more people buy a long range for the second motor, AWD and acceleration than just purely for the range benefits?
I thought the standard model y uses new 4680 cells
@@jaredvegas Only those from Austin, and they only started recently to sell to customers.
Great review. Best regards Martin 👍
Liked the review!
Got yourself a new subbie.
Got a 2023 model y rwd coming up in 2 weeks. With the 20's! Looking forward to it. Hope the drive q is good. 😎
I am in Portugal and I own the same Tesla Model Y. There are only 8 Tesla Supercharges in Portugal but there are miio CCS2 chargers everywhere in Portugal, there is no problem charging and I use public chargers exclusively.
Thanks Richard and Chris! I have had a white RWD SR Model Y in Melbourne, Australia since October 2022 and completed 12,000kms/7,500 bumpy miles at 142wH per km/227wH per mile. I see the driveaway price in Australia is at least 10% better than in the UK at AUD75,000/GBP40,000. The Tesla supercharger network here is good with reliable back-up from much cheaper non-Tesla chargers, all are CCS - no adaptors or own cords needed. With mains home charging (3 pin 240v AC, no wall box) my power cost per km - including EV registration tax - is one quarter of my other car, a diesel SUV, and worst case half using the Tesla superchargers. Service OK too. Single pedal YES. I am a very happy first-time EV owner!
The difference is partially down to the higher UK VAT rate (20%) vs the Australian GST rate (10%).
Hi Richard!
Love the videos and finding them really insightful.
Are there any differences between the 2023 rwd and long range models outwith the obvious? I’ve read reports that the sound system is different for example
Swithering between the two, long range would be good but it’s more ‘everything else’ that would sway it. Cheers
Young scally nicking the model 3 at the start of the video😮😮😮
It's worth mentioning the 2022 Model Y has the older suspension that is very firm. The 2023 MY onwards has the softer suspension
When I picked up my MYP tyres were 44psi! Now at 34 psi ride is so much better now.
The key practical long term difference of the RWD for most people will be the better longevity of the LFP battery vs the LR or Performance models.
Great videos as always. Also get to finally watch one of them as an owner of an electric vehicle. We took delivery of a standard range Y on the 31st of March. It's a 23 plate. I am used to firmer suspension (our other car is a 2006 Z4 Coupe!) how can you find out if the car has comfort suspension, will it say in the vehicle details?
As ever, really enjoyed your review! My wife has a MY AWD bought MAR22 and I was able to get one myself MAR23 - the only difference, a £9k inflation adjusted cost saving!!! Performance Boost here I come woo hoo!! But seriously - maybe compared to my old M3 SR+ the ride in the MY is cossetting. I can't see what the harshness complaints are about? Maybe opt for softer tyres? (This worked wonders on a little brutal Citroen we used to have - transformed the ride from spleen shattering to bearable). I don't know if smaller rims would be allowed - Insurance companies don't like it?
I had to do a 950 mile trip in Feb to the North West of Ireland and back with a ferry in between (Stena Line ferries have free onboard chargers apparently but I did not know). In a MY AWD in filthy weather conditions we could have easily made it with just two stops but in the end we opted for two outbound and two inbound. It was effortless and the ride comfort for GT work was sublime. If you are dithering just effing get one! Its an absolute bargain with the price "rebalancing". Either car AWS or RWD will be fantastic.
By the way, I believe the ONLY difference between the two is the battery pack and the 2nd motor up front. 14 speaker stereo with active sub, hepa filter, heating steering wheel, electric boot lid, everything is the same. I agonised about getting the RWD but bottled it for the AWD. I think for the UK though, RWD is plenty enough and a cracking bargain with current pricing. The alternative like Polestar are looking soooooo pricey now.
Great reviews, thank you! I have also a Model Y SR+ from nov 2022, if possible please make a review for aftermarket suspension options.
You are a time traveler from the future, commenting in the replies, from the past.
@@dvader3263 😂😂😂 sorry for typo, corrected nov 2022 👍
Excellent video.
Use the Energy app next time and get the GOM number you are looking at in other EV : GOM = Guess-O-Meter which stands for guessing the range based on previous driving conditions.
Tesla does range projections like other EVs too - it’s just in the consumption tab of the energy app.
Seeing this owner, and so many owners in the comments, saying that the wipers are awful, it makes you laugh. Tesla need to get the basics right, e.g. indicators, wipers, lights, ride quality fitting of a family car etc...
We considered one of these as the second EV in the house and had an extended test drive last weekend in a model Y and decided against it because the ride quality was laughable, and it was a 2023 Y.
The other EV in our house is an EV6. We've had it 21 months now, 35,000km complete. Excellent ride quality, it does all the normal car stuff so much better than a Tesla and it has a 7 year warranty. Real world 500km range. We've had zero issues with it and the range is so long that we've only a used public chargers 4 times.
Instead of improving the weaknesses Tesla has, it is making them worse by further cost cutting in the new model 3 by removing indicator stalks, imagine the mess leaving a roundabout on the third exit when the indicator button will be upside down 🙄.
The likes of Kia have caught up with Tesla's strength of range and efficiency and surpassed them by building cars with ride quality fitting of a family car, build quality, warranty, dealer network, controls in the car that work seamlessly.
I definitely notice from 2020 model 3 sr+ to 2023 my standard that the auto pilot accelerates much better back up to speed once a slower vehicle moves. On the old model 3 I had to press the accelerator to get it to speed up again quickly even with clear road
Suspension as many know now was hugely improved as of October 2022 😊
using 18" Enkei PF07 right now with 35 offset it's like a brand new car, suspension is not as loaded due to reduced weight (9.8kg vs stock gemeni's 13.6kg) and additional sidewall from 18" tyres
Thank you for the video, l have some questions. Is there any problem or reducing battery life lf l do always DC charge ( only DC) between 20%-80% ? And always DC charging , how many times charge is possible for any percentage reducing the battery life? Thank you
My wife's Model Y Long Range is the best car I have ever driven. It has absolutely nothing that annoys IMO.
We just picked up a March 2023 Y LR and I thought the suspension was better than our 2020 3 LR. Much better than I was expecting given the initial reviews of harsh suspension. Still not a RR mind.
I’m the same, we may have the upgraded suspension on the 23 plate. Also a lot of RUclipsrs ie the ones that aren’t in the trade just spew out what they’ve heard from someone else, all I’ve heard from RUclips and social media is the suspension is rubbish, the build quality is bad. Not been my experience at all.
I think the only different spec is the fog lights which aren’t on the SR. Otherwise as you can charge it to 100% on a regular basis you may get the same usable range anyway
Travelling in wales the suspension works amazing. Fast b roads and big compressions and the m Y copes very well indeed. Add gravel on a turn and the electrical gizmos keep it going where you want. It’s a great b road fast car, a road car or motorway car. Firm around town but you need that for proper thrashing out of town. Too firm? Maybe you go to slow?
What is the sound system compared to the long range? Is that the same? Is it really the same as the better one in LR with all the speakers and sunwoofer
I suspect the suspension firmness is a Marmite thing, having test driven a Model Y LR last spring my choice would be the Tesla over the more softly sprung and dare I say in some cases slightly floaty suspension setups on some of the competitors. It would be a shame if Tesla started following the crowd, but perhaps the solution is a separate SKU / option from them other than have to choose the Performance.
I have an edrive40 that you're welcome to review if you wanted as I can't see that you've done one on the channel?
Amazing cars!
Richard, ride in the back seats next time, that is where you really feel the overly firm suspension, it helps you to sympathise with the kids complaints.
Is it your experience that the Long Range / Standard Range has stiffer suspension than the Performance version in the 2023 Berlin built models?
Good one - as always 👍Any insights available on whether the improvements in ride comfort will be a hardware change or simply a software update?
Hardware needed…
Might just be different springs or might be a whole new setup. Maybe it can be retro fitted to older cars. Maybe it can’t…
Great video as always. When do you think we will see the first Model Ys with comfort suspension? It is the one thing that is putting me off, so will be really interesting when yo have the chance to test one. Also, any chance of a look at battery degradation on the LFP battery, please.
Hi, Serge here from RSEV. We actually did look at that M3 with LFP battery that was in this video at some point and scanned it with Scan my Tesla and by the looks of it after 38k miles the degradation is 2% which I believe it's acceptable.
@@powersurge6878 Thanks Serge, 2% degradation after 38k miles is impressive.
Interesting comment on ride quality - they are definitely on the firm side of comfortable - but I assumed the standard range would be on the more recent “comfort” suspension given it’s later intro to the U.K. market?
Unreasonable whinge Richard !
It’s just two clicks to change lanes … one to indicate (a/p drops out ) then one click to re engage.
If you know if a car that’s simpler, pray tell.
I’ve got a MYRWD coming on the 19th May, will be interesting to see if the suspension feels different to the car I test drove! I never had any issues with the demo car’s ride, but my old car is a lowered Honda Civic, so it would struggle to be worse than that 😂
I’m curious how is the new suspension? Cheers!
@Blue Planet its a little bit firm and jiggly on bumpy roads but not bad in my opinion. I don't really notice any issues with the ride most of the time.
@@CommunistMonster thanks for the reply! I drove a model Y back in 2021 and the reason I didn't buy was a very firm ride on bumps. However on highway it was very smooth. I'm assuming the new suspension is little softer/ better. Congratulations on your ride hope you enjoy it.
I just wish it offered the Performance Boost option for those who want their cake and eat it too. That would be a perfect vehicle or efficiency and performance.
I have my Tesla M3 (2024) now for 2 months and drive only very short distances with an average of 128w/kilometer. Very cheap to run indeed! The only issue I have is that the regular radiostations do not load. Even Tesla is now searching for almost the same 2 months. And that’s very annoying!
I miss your experience with parking the 2023 model Y. Could you get used to missing USS? Was Tesla Vision helpful and sufficiently reliable when it really mattered? It would be interesting to see how you have tested that as well!
My wife described Tesla Vision park assist in the way of Nanny Mc Fee. "When you don't need it, it works fine. When you really want it, it doesn't work."
Night, rain, dark corners...nope.
The rain sensor on my m3 at 63k is rubbish after the poor ride quality, it’s my biggest gripe, till I get onto the lights 😊 they should stop mucking about with self driving which also doesn’t work, and fix stuff on the existing cars.
My March 23 MY suspension is softer than my friends late 22 MY.
Could be the new “comfort” suspension. I’m looking forward to trying
@@RSEV a comparison video would be awesome!
I'm waiting to place my order here in the UK for a Model Y RWD with the comfort suspension. I cannot get an answer anywhere as to when that is guaranteed. If anyone can tell me I'd be a very happy 'soon to be' Tesla owner.
In theory seems like maybe the next batch of arrivals should have it.
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the windscreen wipers seem to have a mind of their own when in autopilot.
220 miles in those conditions - so 260 should be easy enough in spring/summer dry weather
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Biggest advantage of the RWD vs LR is the LFP pack, charge to 100% and supposedly better longevity/degredation. The price difference the obvious main difference. I really can't see the point of the LR unless you're doing distance driving every day
Why does the UK Model Y not have the 7 seat option?
Because people from EU aren’t so easy to fool like US
I can attest to the improvement in the rain sensor. It was terrible to start with, but it is now near-perfect.
The rain sensor on my m3 at 63k is rubbish after the poor ride quality, it’s my biggest gripe, till I get onto the lights 😊 they should stop mucking about with self driving which also doesn’t work, and fix stuff on the existing cars.
"Really windy, rainy, chilly, far from ideal conditions" surely though these are the conditions folks face here in the UK, perhaps it gives a helpful idea of what these cars are actually capable of in "typical" conditions! I would have thought that was the point! Just saying. Everyone I know who drives a Tesla says the suspension is harsh and too firm, even considering performance models their suspension is too harsh for public road driving where probably 99% of owners use them! Even Tesla owners need to admit their shortcomings if things are going to improve! cheers.
It's all subjective, our troc does around 33 mpg it's advertised as 46.3 our model 3 long-range advertised 330 miles at launch and gets between 260 to 350 miles. I agree the suspension is harsh sub 30 mph but anything over its actually pretty normal
I just can’t bring my self to like the Model Y, like that’s it a hatchback but that styling, that ride and it’s just to big for most spaces in the uk
Rain sensors don’t learn, I’ve hit that button sooooo many times - they’re terrible! To the point where they’re actually dangerous
Great video, as always. The range is decent and it has great efficiency. I'll hold on our Nissan Leaf and Passat GTE until the VW ID7 86kwh go on sale - 435 mile range sounds good at a similar price 😊
Similar price? In my country the id3 costs more that a model 3 and the same as a model Y... What is target price for the id7?
I’d be very wary of VW claiming the ID7 gets 435 miles out of an 86kwh pack. That’s 197wh/m. I’d say 375 miles is more realistic.
To get 435 mile range, you'd need to either, only drive exactly the WLTP test cycle, or achieve about 5 miles per kWh for the entire total.
I doubt that the former is true and if you look at the efficiency of existing VW models, they're nowhere near the required 5 miles per kWh.
You won't get anything like 435 miles and you just end up paying more for electricity for lower efficiency.
@@rodrigosousa9049 they claim upper 50's in £
@@shanerayner4271 very true as VWs aren't very efficient
I do wonder why rain is called a not-ideal condition. Headwind … fair enough. But rain???
The suspension should have been improved on the 2023 Model Y, but havent heard anyone confirm that.
It did. Had a 2022 Y LR MiC with rough suspension and now a 2023 MiG Y SR. Way better and more comfortable. Lower tire pressure or get better tires, that helps on any Tesla. Factory rubber has longer range at the cost of lower grip and less comfort.
I can't help wondering why it has taken Tesla this long to address the firm suspension issue? I think it's almost a Henry Ford mindset - you can have any colour you want provided it's black. The Japanese and Koreans have been doing individual suspension tunes for Australian roads for over a decade now and Australian roads are... challenging. Maybe it's time for Tesla to take a leaf out of that playbook?
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that the ride of the Model Y was designed so damn stiff, and has remained too stiff (despite promises it’s improved) is such a missed opportunity by Tesla. It’s so far from luxury, but if it had a nice ride, the Model Y would be near impossible to match
Well, I love my Tesla model Y Long Range. Nothing else comes close. $49,990 and with $7500 rebate cuts price to $42,490. An absolute joy to drive.
Elon:
Tesla could inform us during its upcoming earnings meeting that the Model Y is already on track to become the best-selling car in the world as early as this year. It topped all rivals in China, the world's biggest automotive market, for Q1 2023. Meanwhile, in the world's second-largest car market, the US, early data points to the Model Y being the best-selling passenger car for the quarter.
The gentleman that owns the car reminded me of Michael Caine .
He really looks like he wants to be back in his Ioniq 5 🤣🤦♂️
Had a 2022 Y MiC LR and now a 2023 MiG SR. Way better, better ride and the BYD LFP battery (currently only on MiG) rocks. No need for the LR on long distance. Went to Bordeaux last months, same stops as with the LR. The Y is too fat and ugly, but ticks all other boxes. Great car.
😊 amazing car but I still prefer the model 3. just never needed. such a huge great amount of space. I always think the y looks a bit porky 😅 #buzzofftoxic #TIEDAMEW
Tesla are developing a completely new suspension system and it can’t come soon enough.
Bro…. Get to the point …. This video could have been 70% shorter without useless chat.
You are so out of date.