You both definitely add value to society! I have a busy & stressful job (ER doc) and love relaxing by listening to OOTP. Shift work is really isolating and I love feeling like I’m having a chat with my friends when I listen to you guys coming home from work in the middle of the night. Thanks for giving so many of us fun little moments to look forward to every week!
Caleb wasn't attracted to Aria. They never kissed. They didn't even sleep in the same bed. He was nice to Aria. Compared to Scotty, that may seem like more but it wasn't. He did NOTHING wrong. He participated in the experiment. Even at the reunion, he said there was a connection because everyone was attacking him. He's a nice guy and a people pleaser. I came out of the reunion hating everyone with the exception of Caleb. The fact that Caleb took more heat at the reunion than Scotty is ludicrous.
Caleb isn’t a people pleaser. He is okay with conflict, while Caleb 100% did nothing wrong, he did not need to “admit” to anything. The anger Aria brought to him at the reunion was misplaced and was not justified and everyone should be looking themselves in the mirror trying to be a Caleb in their trial marriages
At this point everyone including Caleb knew they were attracted to each other. Caleb was attracted first and Aria after. Maybe they did kiss off camera away from production and they swore not to disclose it to anyone. Plus imagine going through this experience and being forbidden to have any contact with someone while the rest of the entire cast are all in contact with each other. Plus why is that Mariah can be in contact with her and not Caleb??? If there was truly nothing there between Aria and Caleb then there will be not reason for the unblocking and blocking which was probably done by Mariah. I think Aria was wrong for how she said what ahe said at the reunion. She was trying to state that everyone was giving Nick he'll while Mariah was also constantly contacting Caleb but no one gave that impression.
Rewatch the parts with just Caleb and Aria -- "friends" don't go on and on about how special the other is, how marriageable, how great a spouse they will be. Compared to both of their "real" relationships, I think both Caleb and Aria experienced a peace that they didn't know was possible in a romantic relationship. Was it love? Probably not yet, but give those two another few weeks together and they'd be deep in "you're the one" territory.
@charlesquinn7622 agreed. I dont understand this narrative people are trying to say that he didn't want her and she wanted him. They unknowingly unintentionally fell for each other in an emotional way which is harder to forget than any physical connection. This connection happened while they were trying to better themselves for their partners that's why it caught them off guard. I think the premise of the show would not have wanted Aria and Caleb to be together because no one will want to bring their significant other to another ultimatum to have them taken away. Everyone is all about Caleb love Mariah so deeply... could be but Mariah said they had emotional issues in the beginning...Think he will be loyal to her out of her fragility and fear of being abandoned. If I was in Mariah shoes I would not have been able to watch those scenes between Aria and Caleb and be confident in my relationship after ever again.
A lot of people have short term memory loss. Trying to paint Aria out as some delulu girl who had one-sided feelings for Caleb is very revisionist. If we go back to the first episode: In the coin flip game, Caleb said that he would most like to spend the night with Aria. So we are not about to act like he wasn't attracted to her. People aren't willing to admit it, but they can't fathom that a black women like Aria could be desired. Caleb's top 2 were Aria and Chanel. SO she is his type.
I think the reason why Aria was so upset with Caleb is because she has a sensitivity to being gaslit from being with Scotty. And that she also felt gaslit from Caleb from him not being honest with himself.
I didn't think Scotty's speech was cute. He seems like he's probably a narcissist, so it all just sounded like bullshit to me. Of course he said all the right things. That's what a narcissist does. Also, yes Natalie. Best thing since sliced bread is a saying lol
True. At this point nothing related to this couple is ‘cute’. The speech was rehearsed and I had a weird feeling that Aria was fake crying. Are they planning acting career or sth?
Idk about the Sandy & Nick topics re: treatment + alc-ism. Nick shouldn’t have been selected to be on the show period. If his mental state is already fragile and he’s in recovery, he should’ve been disqualified. Netflix really took advantage of someone struggling with (what was shown as) addiction. I highly doubt any of the other couples came into the experience agreeing to sign up for a trial relationship w someone who is an *assumed to be* alcoholic. Addiction to any substance is complex, but at its core mental health issues are one of the common denominators. It’s fascinating that netflix decided to let nick on the show and potentially harm someone unsuspecting like Vanessa AND put Nick through such an intense emotionally experience considering his struggles w/ alcohol. I’m glad she left - anyone who finds themself in a relationship like that should feel comfortable with leaving if they are not able to emotionally support the other person. It’s an extremely intense experience to date someone who’s in or been through recovery. But clearly netflix really did not have good intentions with letting nick participate and then shaming vanessa for leaving, when she probably felt unsafe and unable to handle the situation. No hate to nick or vanessa - but shame on netflix for putting them in this situation in the first place.
I think something people are misunderstanding is that Ultimatum 3 was filmed September through November of 2023. The reunion was filmed November of 2024 and the show was released on Netflix December 2024. So the comments about Aria was jealous about the public comments for Mariah vs Aria is untrue because the reunion was filmed before even episode 1 of Ultimatum 3 was releasedon Netflix. Also being that the reunion happened a whole year after the finale happened and the cast only viewed the entire season for the first time only 24 hours before the reunion occured is why the emotions were high
I understand why Aria didn't dare disrespect Scotty on camera and say no. We saw how petty he got when Zayna didn't like his ideas for dates. He was petty lashing out at her going for a low blow by saying her age. I didn't agree with Aria's heat for Caleb and not Scotty. She came across as envious not attractive at all. Hopefully, she apologized for that.
I loved the one podcast Zaina went on with her friends and explaining everything, made the reunion make a lot more sense about why she said what she said during the reunion
For sure you add value to society! You guys make my days so light when I watch your videos. You’ve reached so many distant pod besties, even here from Brazil! 🇧🇷
I usually listen to your podcast in the car, it’s so nice to see your lovely faces! Thank you so much for giving us access, your friendship is one of the best relationships to ever come out of Netflix reality tv. You feel like our besties. Wishing you the best 2025! 🎉🥂🍾 And side note: Natalie, my mom is Korean so I’ve always felt a strong familiarity to you. Your comment on not needing deodorant is totally how my mom is too. I did not get that gene 🤦🏻♀️ Edited to add: Hana is one of my favorite Korean baby names ❤
This is wild to say but I didn't even watch the ultimatum but I love listening to y'all bc you always start off with such relatable content. I'll listen to episodes all the way through even tho I have no idea what you're talking about once you start recapping.
I don't like how a lot of people have short term memory loss. Trying to paint Aria out as some delulu girl who had one-sided feelings for Caleb is very revisionist. If we go back to the first episode: In the coin flip game, Caleb said that he would most like to spend the night with Aria. So we are not about to act like he wasn't attracted to her. People aren't willing to admit it, but they can't fathom that a black women like Aria could be desired. Caleb's top 2 were Aria and Chanel. SO she is his type. Caleb was giving her energy on and OFF camera. There is a reason why the internet was shipping them. People could see their connection. There's also a reason why all the other cast were also going at Caleb for being disingenuous. When he went back to Mariah, he was still dreaming and thinking about Aria. Their time together compared to what their relationships were like with their original partners were a stark contrast. They weren't as sexually charged as JR and Sandy, but their emotional connection was really intense. The reason Aria took screenshots is because she didn't want him to be able to deny it. He went behind her back and was lurking. He wasn't following her, yet he was creeping. Mariah obviously didn't know about any of this. Which is why she also went off at him. If it was innocent he would not have been doing all of that. Caleb LIED to Mariah for a whole year about it. They watched the show (24 hours before the reunion) so people had feelings.
The red flag was Sandy and JR kissed more than twice (at the restaurant, in the bed, and at the pool) and one kiss turned into 2 kisses on one occasion. But the kicker and red flag was when she had her trial week with Nick she refused to sleep with Nick she said they have to reconnect emotionally. Uh right!
Deepti’s takes are all valid. We ride at dawn for Caleb! But Natalie is so right about Vanessa. Vanessa has no right to speak about someone’s addiction or struggles. She was definitely smug.
I was pretty happy with the fact that only Caleb and Mariah are together. Zainah was a little out of control how much more clear did she need than JR saying he was leaving single? Also I do not fault anyone for leaving if you feel unsafe. The fact that people were upset about that is wild
@@RobynZilberagreed. I think she tends to be generous towards reality personalities in general and that could be her knowledge of what goes on in filming and editing coming through. But I think it may be a personality trait/flaw that she hasn’t fully identified. All love to Deepti, we all have blind spots.
I did not get the vibe that Caleb had a deep connection with aria at all. He was a good guy in this experience and helped and was a cool guy to her and probably thought she cool and pretty but that does not equate to this deep connection aria keeps talking about. Maybe aria did. But that does not mean for Caleb it was more than a friendship
Technically Aria is an "ex" of Caleb's, so the most respectful, least trouble-making thing for him to do would be to stay off of Aria's socials. That being said, I think he missed a life partner in Aria. He understandably held himself back since his end-game was (is??) Moriah, but Aria and Caleb are clearly a better "fit." And the Caleb/Moriah wedding is tentatively planned for 2026, not 2025 as Deeps said...a full two-and-a-half years since Moriah gave the Ultimatum (and another 18 months after the Reunion!). Who does that?? At least Caleb has time to come to his senses...
Zayna is a beautiful woman but she was delusional. JR'S reaction to her and Sandy was really telling. As soon as he saw Sandy he dropped Zayna like a hot potato
Does Deepti not understand how men operate? Men don’t like your stories unless they’re trying to communicate something, otherwise they don’t waste their time. 99% of the time, it’s due to communicating physical attraction. I think Caleb was sexually attracted. And if she posted selfies or body shots -which is likely-than it is sneaky disrespectful behavior.
I think Nick is very performative and tried to get a good edit. I think Nick did things behind the camera that he took zero accountability for it. He clearly did not do what he was taught in rehab, which is make amends and don’t make big decisions within the first six months of sobriety. Not a person that is an addict but was affected by one and this is giving masked sobriety. Just one opinion.
Yeah. It doesn’t seem like he’s sober now. The way he blamed it being on artist was a red flag. I think Sandy deserves some grace. He put her through a lot and I get how she could come to build a lot of resentment.
Caleb’s point of view I think he didn’t have a a deep connection like aria thought. Maybe he’s like I like her she’s a cool nice girl but not a deep connection aria keeps harping on. I don’t think he liked her that deep at all.
I think Aria is the issue too. She obviously showed that she can give off major heat unnecessarily. Aria is sensitive and doesn’t communicate well with Scotty either. She can’t communicate like Zaina did really well with Scotty. She can’t resolve issues.
I do not agree with you guys on Sandy, I think she’s manipulated and she wanted to have her cake and eat it too. She is not a people pleaser she is manipulated and I feel like you guys are giving her so much grace. She needs to be accountable for what she did and she was not the best partner either she is an adult
Shows how aria is and creates problems. Where as Caleb is cool nice and unproblematic so he’s thinking yeah cool girl cool friend in this experience does not equal deep connection
It's such nonsense to blame the edit. We don't know people in reality 100%. We never have full context. We don't have access to a persons thoughts. If someone cuts you off on the freeway, we don't know if he had a fight with his girlfriend that morning. To claim that reality TV stars deserve grace because we don't have full context is just silly.
YES!!! There’s always something going on with everyone under the surface-that doesn’t mean we should sympathize w ppl showing toxic behaviors on CAMERA.
You both definitely add value to society! I have a busy & stressful job (ER doc) and love relaxing by listening to OOTP. Shift work is really isolating and I love feeling like I’m having a chat with my friends when I listen to you guys coming home from work in the middle of the night. Thanks for giving so many of us fun little moments to look forward to every week!
Thank you for what you do ❤❤❤❤❤ you are an angel. Merry Christmas
Caleb wasn't attracted to Aria. They never kissed. They didn't even sleep in the same bed. He was nice to Aria. Compared to Scotty, that may seem like more but it wasn't. He did NOTHING wrong. He participated in the experiment. Even at the reunion, he said there was a connection because everyone was attacking him. He's a nice guy and a people pleaser.
I came out of the reunion hating everyone with the exception of Caleb.
The fact that Caleb took more heat at the reunion than Scotty is ludicrous.
Caleb isn’t a people pleaser. He is okay with conflict, while Caleb 100% did nothing wrong, he did not need to “admit” to anything. The anger Aria brought to him at the reunion was misplaced and was not justified and everyone should be looking themselves in the mirror trying to be a Caleb in their trial marriages
At this point everyone including Caleb knew they were attracted to each other. Caleb was attracted first and Aria after. Maybe they did kiss off camera away from production and they swore not to disclose it to anyone. Plus imagine going through this experience and being forbidden to have any contact with someone while the rest of the entire cast are all in contact with each other. Plus why is that Mariah can be in contact with her and not Caleb??? If there was truly nothing there between Aria and Caleb then there will be not reason for the unblocking and blocking which was probably done by Mariah. I think Aria was wrong for how she said what ahe said at the reunion. She was trying to state that everyone was giving Nick he'll while Mariah was also constantly contacting Caleb but no one gave that impression.
Rewatch the parts with just Caleb and Aria -- "friends" don't go on and on about how special the other is, how marriageable, how great a spouse they will be. Compared to both of their "real" relationships, I think both Caleb and Aria experienced a peace that they didn't know was possible in a romantic relationship. Was it love? Probably not yet, but give those two another few weeks together and they'd be deep in "you're the one" territory.
@charlesquinn7622 agreed. I dont understand this narrative people are trying to say that he didn't want her and she wanted him. They unknowingly unintentionally fell for each other in an emotional way which is harder to forget than any physical connection. This connection happened while they were trying to better themselves for their partners that's why it caught them off guard. I think the premise of the show would not have wanted Aria and Caleb to be together because no one will want to bring their significant other to another ultimatum to have them taken away. Everyone is all about Caleb love Mariah so deeply... could be but Mariah said they had emotional issues in the beginning...Think he will be loyal to her out of her fragility and fear of being abandoned. If I was in Mariah shoes I would not have been able to watch those scenes between Aria and Caleb and be confident in my relationship after ever again.
A lot of people have short term memory loss. Trying to paint Aria out as some delulu girl who had one-sided feelings for Caleb is very revisionist.
If we go back to the first episode: In the coin flip game, Caleb said that he would most like to spend the night with Aria. So we are not about to act like he wasn't attracted to her. People aren't willing to admit it, but they can't fathom that a black women like Aria could be desired. Caleb's top 2 were Aria and Chanel. SO she is his type.
I think the reason why Aria was so upset with Caleb is because she has a sensitivity to being gaslit from being with Scotty.
And that she also felt gaslit from Caleb from him not being honest with himself.
You are right Nathalie - “best thing since sliced bread” thought to have originated in 1952 by the comedian Red Skeleton. Happy holidays to all 😊
Was i the only one who skipped the finale because the reunion is out anywwaayy 😂
Same I didn't even bother watching the finale
I skipped the entire season and watched the finale lol
I watched but it was honestly very underwhelming and low key awkward lol
I didn't think Scotty's speech was cute. He seems like he's probably a narcissist, so it all just sounded like bullshit to me. Of course he said all the right things. That's what a narcissist does. Also, yes Natalie. Best thing since sliced bread is a saying lol
Especially if he feels like he’s about to lose her. He’s going to pull all the stops obviously
True. At this point nothing related to this couple is ‘cute’. The speech was rehearsed and I had a weird feeling that Aria was fake crying. Are they planning acting career or sth?
Idk about the Sandy & Nick topics re: treatment + alc-ism.
Nick shouldn’t have been selected to be on the show period. If his mental state is already fragile and he’s in recovery, he should’ve been disqualified. Netflix really took advantage of someone struggling with (what was shown as) addiction. I highly doubt any of the other couples came into the experience agreeing to sign up for a trial relationship w someone who is an *assumed to be* alcoholic.
Addiction to any substance is complex, but at its core mental health issues are one of the common denominators. It’s fascinating that netflix decided to let nick on the show and potentially harm someone unsuspecting like Vanessa AND put Nick through such an intense emotionally experience considering his struggles w/ alcohol. I’m glad she left - anyone who finds themself in a relationship like that should feel comfortable with leaving if they are not able to emotionally support the other person.
It’s an extremely intense experience to date someone who’s in or been through recovery. But clearly netflix really did not have good intentions with letting nick participate and then shaming vanessa for leaving, when she probably felt unsafe and unable to handle the situation. No hate to nick or vanessa - but shame on netflix for putting them in this situation in the first place.
Deepti is literally blind to red flags like gurlllll
Zaina bringing the receipts on her nail was the most iconic moment in reality tv everrrr I was gagged
Yes but fell flat
I think something people are misunderstanding is that Ultimatum 3 was filmed September through November of 2023. The reunion was filmed November of 2024 and the show was released on Netflix December 2024. So the comments about Aria was jealous about the public comments for Mariah vs Aria is untrue because the reunion was filmed before even episode 1 of Ultimatum 3 was releasedon Netflix. Also being that the reunion happened a whole year after the finale happened and the cast only viewed the entire season for the first time only 24 hours before the reunion occured is why the emotions were high
I like it when they release everything at The same day
Yes. "He thinks he's the best thing since sliced bread" is definitely a common phrase. Even in South Africa.
I understand why Aria didn't dare disrespect Scotty on camera and say no. We saw how petty he got when Zayna didn't like his ideas for dates. He was petty lashing out at her going for a low blow by saying her age. I didn't agree with Aria's heat for Caleb and not Scotty. She came across as envious not attractive at all. Hopefully, she apologized for that.
Love you guys i’m listening to your podcasts from France they bring me joy i feel like i’m with my friends 😊😊
Another french listener here 😊
Deepti, you’re so kind for giving Scottie so much grace
Deepti you are being too understanding to Scotty 🫠 that man is a menace
hearing your guys’ giggles truly makes my day
I loved the one podcast Zaina went on with her friends and explaining everything, made the reunion make a lot more sense about why she said what she said during the reunion
What podcast, I want to listen!
Omg which podcast ?!
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Yes, best thing since sliced bread is a saying ☺️
For sure you add value to society! You guys make my days so light when I watch your videos. You’ve reached so many distant pod besties, even here from Brazil! 🇧🇷
You guys need to watch The Ultimatum South Africa ,they have the drama you want
Thanks you so much for this podcast. It always brings me such comfort and entertainment 🙏
I usually listen to your podcast in the car, it’s so nice to see your lovely faces! Thank you so much for giving us access, your friendship is one of the best relationships to ever come out of Netflix reality tv. You feel like our besties. Wishing you the best 2025! 🎉🥂🍾 And side note: Natalie, my mom is Korean so I’ve always felt a strong familiarity to you. Your comment on not needing deodorant is totally how my mom is too. I did not get that gene 🤦🏻♀️
Edited to add: Hana is one of my favorite Korean baby names ❤
This is wild to say but I didn't even watch the ultimatum but I love listening to y'all bc you always start off with such relatable content. I'll listen to episodes all the way through even tho I have no idea what you're talking about once you start recapping.
Reach for the moon. Even if you miss, you’ll land among the stars. ✨💕
"Best thing since sliced bread" is indeed a longtime saying.
I don't like how a lot of people have short term memory loss. Trying to paint Aria out as some delulu girl who had one-sided feelings for Caleb is very revisionist.
If we go back to the first episode: In the coin flip game, Caleb said that he would most like to spend the night with Aria. So we are not about to act like he wasn't attracted to her. People aren't willing to admit it, but they can't fathom that a black women like Aria could be desired. Caleb's top 2 were Aria and Chanel. SO she is his type.
Caleb was giving her energy on and OFF camera. There is a reason why the internet was shipping them. People could see their connection. There's also a reason why all the other cast were also going at Caleb for being disingenuous.
When he went back to Mariah, he was still dreaming and thinking about Aria. Their time together compared to what their relationships were like with their original partners were a stark contrast. They weren't as sexually charged as JR and Sandy, but their emotional connection was really intense.
The reason Aria took screenshots is because she didn't want him to be able to deny it. He went behind her back and was lurking. He wasn't following her, yet he was creeping. Mariah obviously didn't know about any of this. Which is why she also went off at him. If it was innocent he would not have been doing all of that. Caleb LIED to Mariah for a whole year about it. They watched the show (24 hours before the reunion) so people had feelings.
The red flag was Sandy and JR kissed more than twice (at the restaurant, in the bed, and at the pool) and one kiss turned into 2 kisses on one occasion. But the kicker and red flag was when she had her trial week with Nick she refused to sleep with Nick she said they have to reconnect emotionally. Uh right!
best thing since sliced bread is a well known saying just to validate your point Natalie 😂 super common in the UK, not sure about the US
"Best thing since sliced bread" IS a statement! 🍞
Deepti’s takes are all valid. We ride at dawn for Caleb!
But Natalie is so right about Vanessa. Vanessa has no right to speak about someone’s addiction or struggles. She was definitely smug.
I was pretty happy with the fact that only Caleb and Mariah are together. Zainah was a little out of control how much more clear did she need than JR saying he was leaving single? Also I do not fault anyone for leaving if you feel unsafe. The fact that people were upset about that is wild
Bad take on Scotty Deepti…
I thought it was a fair take. Everything is not what it seems on reality TV
I think what we saw on the show was Scotty on his best behavior for the cameras. It's likely he's way worse behind closed doors.
I don't understand.... Deepti is always really sympathetic to toxic men.
@@RobynZilberagreed. I think she tends to be generous towards reality personalities in general and that could be her knowledge of what goes on in filming and editing coming through. But I think it may be a personality trait/flaw that she hasn’t fully identified. All love to Deepti, we all have blind spots.
@kt07813 She tends to be more harsh with women, though. Totally agree though, pobody's nerfect.
I was literally thinking that my new years resolution was to find my purpose in life. ❤
Completely agree about elf on a shelf. Way too much work lol. Won’t be telling my future kids about it
You said it right. It is an older saying( best thing since alice bread)
Oh Deepti, you are being so kind to Scotty! I cannot bear him I think he's just awful and toxic.
Just because aria felt a deeper connection doesn’t mean Caleb did
They didn’t used to sell sliced bread just whole loafs so yes you said it right Natalie lol
Hahahha thanks for confirming
I did not get the vibe that Caleb had a deep connection with aria at all. He was a good guy in this experience and helped and was a cool guy to her and probably thought she cool and pretty but that does not equate to this deep connection aria keeps talking about. Maybe aria did. But that does not mean for Caleb it was more than a friendship
Technically Aria is an "ex" of Caleb's, so the most respectful, least trouble-making thing for him to do would be to stay off of Aria's socials. That being said, I think he missed a life partner in Aria. He understandably held himself back since his end-game was (is??) Moriah, but Aria and Caleb are clearly a better "fit." And the Caleb/Moriah wedding is tentatively planned for 2026, not 2025 as Deeps said...a full two-and-a-half years since Moriah gave the Ultimatum (and another 18 months after the Reunion!). Who does that?? At least Caleb has time to come to his senses...
Love your recaps
Love the hair Deepti!
Thank you ❤❤❤
I have to know where Deepti’s cardigan is from!! It’s such a nice colour!
The word "goal" is so heavy. Maybe set intentions for the new year.
You got that saying right Natalie!!! 😂
Zayna is a beautiful woman but she was delusional. JR'S reaction to her and Sandy was really telling. As soon as he saw Sandy he dropped Zayna like a hot potato
I always wonder how Natalie and Deepti keep a straight face while reading out those adverts...😅😅😅
I say “ best thing since sliced bread” all the time- usually referring to the male ego. So yes it is a saying Natalie 😂
Does Deepti not understand how men operate? Men don’t like your stories unless they’re trying to communicate something, otherwise they don’t waste their time. 99% of the time, it’s due to communicating physical attraction. I think Caleb was sexually attracted. And if she posted selfies or body shots -which is likely-than it is sneaky disrespectful behavior.
My new year is my bday
I think Nick is very performative and tried to get a good edit. I think Nick did things behind the camera that he took zero accountability for it. He clearly did not do what he was taught in rehab, which is make amends and don’t make big decisions within the first six months of sobriety. Not a person that is an addict but was affected by one and this is giving masked sobriety. Just one opinion.
His apologies didnt seem sincere. It’s almost like he just said things he didn’t agree with to keep ppl close to him.
Yeah. It doesn’t seem like he’s sober now. The way he blamed it being on artist was a red flag. I think Sandy deserves some grace. He put her through a lot and I get how she could come to build a lot of resentment.
Sliced bread is correct ❤ don’t doubt yourself automatically lol
Caleb’s point of view I think he didn’t have a a deep connection like aria thought. Maybe he’s like I like her she’s a cool nice girl but not a deep connection aria keeps harping on. I don’t think he liked her that deep at all.
I think Aria is the issue too. She obviously showed that she can give off major heat unnecessarily. Aria is sensitive and doesn’t communicate well with Scotty either. She can’t communicate like Zaina did really well with Scotty. She can’t resolve issues.
Wait Natalie! I am a mean and judgmental person but with my baby I’m the complete opposite LOL
I do not agree with you guys on Sandy, I think she’s manipulated and she wanted to have her cake and eat it too. She is not a people pleaser she is manipulated and I feel like you guys are giving her so much grace. She needs to be accountable for what she did and she was not the best partner either she is an adult
Shows how aria is and creates problems. Where as Caleb is cool nice and unproblematic so he’s thinking yeah cool girl cool friend in this experience does not equal deep connection
Ya’ll I won’t lie, I skip to the recap every time
It's such nonsense to blame the edit. We don't know people in reality 100%. We never have full context. We don't have access to a persons thoughts. If someone cuts you off on the freeway, we don't know if he had a fight with his girlfriend that morning. To claim that reality TV stars deserve grace because we don't have full context is just silly.
YES!!! There’s always something going on with everyone under the surface-that doesn’t mean we should sympathize w ppl showing toxic behaviors on CAMERA.
Nick looks like Gary Oldman 😅
Now that you say it, we kinda see it…
This is one of the worst takes of the reunion I’ve seen so far.