Look at the way the UFC is taking off. It's a fairly new sport and now guys are starting to earn some serious money, EA Sports are choosing to do a UFC game every time over a boxing one, Mayweather wants to fight Conor because no-one really cares about anyone in boxing as much and Conor would make him more money than anyone in his own sport. The UFC has taken over and that McGregor and Diaz rematch at the weekend was the final nail in the coffin.
Boxing is doing just fine and will always be around, you just don't follow the sport so you're ignorant. MMA or rather the UFC monopoly is hanging on shaky foundations. Just look how low their PPVs have been the last few yrs aside from Mcgregor or Rousey, the sport's popularity peaked in 09/10. Several of their major international markets have completely dried up. Btw the EA UFC games are complete shit. The EA boxing fight night series are masterpieces, and the next one is being released next yr.
Cory Hill I do follow Boxing and have all the boxing games, last one was Fight Night Champion on the old gen consoles. MMA is far more exciting, the top guys aren't allowed to run from the other top guys. There are more PPV draws than just Conor and Ronda, they are just the most popular like how Boxing has its most popular PPV draws too. I'm far from "ignorant", I follow both sports and have followed Boxing for longer but MMA gets me far more excited than Boxing ever has.
The Notorious Well ok then that's your opinion but you aren't entitled to the facts. The only major draws the UFC has currently are Conor and Ronda. UFC PPV sales peaked in 09/10 and have slowly diminished since then, I can post the numbers if you want to see them. Before UFC 202 their biggest PPV show was UFC 100, 7 years ago. Their international coverage is a mere fraction now compared to what it used to be. Sportnet which is the major sports broadcast provider in Canada stopped covering UFC. MMA is dead in Japan. It's also dead in the UK. Golovkin vs Brook just did a 50,000 seat arena. Canelo Alvarez just did 1.3 mil PPV buys fighting a nobody, UFC could barely do that even if they stacked their card with 3 title fights. As far as the games go, it isn't even close. The fight night series is a masterpiece. Many ppl still play FNC online even though it been out for yrs. EA is making another fight night in 2017. EA UFC games are crap and full of glitches and programming errors. The old EA MMA game is better than any UFC game that came out.
??? How many Billion dollar events has UFC headlined? How many pay tv channels (HBO,Showtime) host UFC fights? How many UFC fighters can make 8 figures in a fight? Why does the biggest name in MMA want to compete in a boxing match, when he knows he has no chance of winning? Please answer this.
Strikeforce used to be on showtime. And that wasn't nearly as big as the UFC, the UFC ended up buying them out. You have no idea what you're talking about.
bigrubedawg If you had the intelligence to realize that MMA has only been around for about 20 years and even less in some states & countries. Compare that to how long boxing has existed. MMA has made money in far quicker time than boxing did. Just accept boxing is becoming less sought after and MMA/UFC is taking over. Boxing=Boring
I find it funny that in most cases Boxing fans that disregard MMA known next to nothing about MMA. Now I'm not claiming to be the world's biggest Boxing buff or fan, but I'd say I know a little more about Boxing than most Boxing fans would know about MMA.
@@Hello-ig1px Lmao only if Fury vs Wilder 3 is the only fight you've watched. It was good but there's been waaaay better fights in boxing just over the past 2 years.
I'm a BJJ Brown Belt so obviously I'd prefer a submission over a knockout. The reason I love a submission over a knockout is because until that very moment when someone gets knocked out they're still in the fight, they have no control over themselves being knocked out, but they were still in the fight until they got knocked out. Now when you submit someone, unlike a knockout they have control over their decisions and when they tap out, theyre mentally saying I give up. You win. I am defenceless. I do not want to go on. Thats why I love a good submission.
UFC all the way! Would love to see a boxer box and weave themselves into a roundhouse followed by a submission. One art of fighting ain't near exciting as 10 or more!
Boxing is finished, Floyd Mayweather v Logan Paul lmao. These greedy promoters and scared boxers don't fight each other because they're scared of losing.
2:49 pretty much sums up this argument for me. " [MMA] is the sport of fighting. What boxing is is the sport of punching." --Well said Joe. That's pretty much the answer to this age-old argument. And I'm the same way. I love rally all arts of bodily combat and love boxing and watching Tyson and Holyfield and Lennox Lewis fights from the 90s, but it just doesn't compare to the freedom of giving someone a swift roundhouse kick to the face or watching someone pull it off.
For UFC, the total number of buys was down largely because they ran 13 pay-per-view events in 2012 that generated approximately 5.7 million buys as compared to 16 the previous year that did approximately 6.4 million. The overall average rose from about 400,000 buys per show to an estimated 438,000.
Yes, I listened to the actual conversation and most of what he said is not based in fact, it is a matter of opinion, when he says that MMA is "much more exciting than other combat sports" that is an opinion. When Joe Rogan mentions MMA is the "sport of fighting" I don't know how many real fights have you have been in but MMA is not real fighting its not even close. Then he says boxing will go away and get swallowed by MMA, He is trying to win an argument that's all. Where are the numbers and data to support half the things he says in the video? Then he is actually trying to argue that sport jujitsu is a more visually appealing sport then boxing.
scott noble I guess Joe hasnt heard of Thurman, Porter, Joshua, Lomachenko, Bradley, Beterbiev....Name me 6 rising superstars in UFC Joe? Superstars with as much potential as just those 6? Should we mention Algeiri and Kovalev maybe to fill out a nice 8 Joe? Saying no new boxing superstars on the horizon lol. And he says boxers hate each other? He came off as a moron
Victor Kuk You are a Moron. First of all. Brock Lesnar was, and is an amazing athlete. look up his college wrestling career. He was a fucking animal. yeah, he spent some time at WWE. but so what? hes back there now, so what? you can't be a world class fighter and an entertainer? He may not have been the best, yeah, he got lucky and shot to the top. but hes still a great fighter. the only reason boxers stay on top is because there isnt any competition anymore. you only have a dozen or so people that are worth a shit because their entire talent pool now goes to MMA. nobody gives a shit about boxing. this interview was 7 years ago. if you still are arguing that the boxing guy was right, when every single bit of evidence shows that he was wrong. Then you are a moron. You put the best boxer in the world, against even a pretty shitty MMA fighter. and that MMA fighter is going to kick the fucking shit out of that boxer every day of the week.
Joe Rogan was playing chess, those boxing guys are playing checkers. UFC runs more PPVs with deeper cards and more exciting fights. Boxing may not die, but after Mayweather/Pacquiauo there's only GGG or Canelo left. Boxing NEEDS superstars to even hold a PPV event. The UFC doesn't. And the UFC still has a healthy, consistent PPV business model. Boxing is in desperate need of a stage 1, system reboot of everything. From simplifying weight classes to single champions in those divisions. Boxing is still the wild west, it took 5 years to make Mayweather/Pacquiauo happen. That wouldn't happen in the UFC. Boxing is dying, while the UFC keeps adding fight cards and expanding internationally.
I respect MMA and I enjoy watching it, but to me, when they get on the ground it gets really slow to me. When things pick up in boxing and you see the two boxers ducking and weaving, it's just amazing to watch. I like UFC when they're only standing up, but even then it can get really slow. I like UFC and I enjoy watching it, but I just find myself on the edge of the seat more when something exciting has in Boxing.
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Are you serious? Boxing has like 5 times as many fighters fighting professionally. As long as there’s talent constantly coming through which there is boxing will never die. You’re delusional is you actually believe this. Boxing will always be more popular than MMA with fighters and fans and im a fan of both.
@@Kingofthekop1 your a clown. Boxing for sure has been around forever. But it's lost lots of momentum all because talents won't match up against each other for padded records. And all the monopoly in the boxing game so your a total idiot if you think this isn't true
@outlawshitalldaygarcia8318 your the clown. What is ufc doing? Not a damn thing! Every press it's dana white saying some record breaking stat, always puts ufc events on boxing days. Ufc is down so bad. Not everyone wanna see 2 dudes rolling around tickling each other n shit.. over here we fight like men with 2 hands all that rolling around in the floor tickling each other's feet is over there for the little boys little boy.
@@outlawshitalldaygarcia8318 I watch both sports religiously and boxing is doing fine. This year has actually been pretty strong so far with Spence/Crawford and Tank/Garcia both doing big business. Last weekend AJ fought and the same night there was an instant classic war with Valdez/Navarette. Usyk fighting in a couple of weeks and then another big business fight Canelo/Charlo. Prospects who could become future stars like Boots, Shakur, Jared Anderson, Vergil Ortiz, Zayas etc. The UFC HW champ abandoning his belt and running off to boxing, RUclipsrs beatign up MMA fighters in boxing matches etc. I would hardly say boxing is "hanging on barely"
It's like Bruce Lee said: "The best fighter is not a Boxer, Karate or Judo man. The best fighter is someone who can adapt to any style, to be formless, to adopt an individual's own style and not following the system of styles."
Mercer wasn't just a boxer, he wrestled at a young age. Competed as a pro kick boxer & also trained in BJJ. A pure boxer example would be James Toney vs Randy Couture or Francois Botha vs little Akiyama.
I like boxing but Ufc is taking over knowing the so called boxing champion Floyd Mayweather won't fight the best boxer while Ufc fighters want the best of the best.
John Walhan Thats all true on paper, but i'm afraid real life gives different results. Few times mma fighters have fought real street fights, especially against a boxer (alas Don Frye)...they got owned!
Boxers dont hate each other lol. It's a sport Joe, like football or Baseball. With long standing rules. Why not allow clotheslines in football and let pitchers throw at batters?
You're right, the boxer takes him out in the first round! Good point. :) just watch Ray Mercer vs Tim Sylvia, Sylvia was only 2 years removed from the HW title whilst Mercer last fought seriously in 2003...
I never hear people talking about boxing. Only mma. Chuck would do a lot better in boxing then Floyd would do in mma. Mma fighters have a lot more skill then boxers. Chuck is a much better fighter then Floyd
Boxing takes time to master. In MMA, you have a lot to worry about other than hands. I think it is true that guys who can't make it in the sweet science go do MMA because of takedowns and kicks. Hands are hard to train. I find it easier to kick a boxer.
+Clarence M "I think it is true that guys who can't make it in the sweet science go do MMA" There's no evidence for that. Many MMA fighters have proven to be very good boxers (Alex Gustafsson and Fábio Maldonado). MMA fighters are not failed boxers, that's a stupid thing to say. Many of them formerly excelled in wrestling and jiu-jitsu.
It's very hard to be an elite boxer. Gustaffson and Maldonado are MMA boxing good. Put them in a ring against a real boxer. They will get picked apart. Boxing is different. Sure, there are guys who took up boxing to master it and to bring to their MMA. There is no evidence. It is my opinion. I said, "I think."
How did you do in your 6 months of jiu jitsu training? Did you find it harder/easier than expected? Were you able to defend takedowns/submissions easily?
They're both unique in their own way. Both involve two people to fight the heck outta each other to give their fans a show! Both of them do just that, there is no "one is better than the other" since it is comparing soccer to basketball.
Joe Roman definitely defeated Lou Dibella in this argument, but he must be looking at this argument now and telling himself boy was I wrong. If the numbers and big fights continue, boxing will murder the UFC this year. Injuries are taken into account and still doesn't excuse the recent numbers of the UFC. Mayweather and Pacquiao have inherited super stardom since this debate and it looks like many will follow.
The late 1800's to early 1900's had the Merikan contests were huge in Japan (boxer vs grappler.) Vale Tudo was going on in Brazil around 1920's onward. They even did that John L. Sullivan (then heavyweight world boxing champion) & he lost in two minutes to greco roman champion William Muldoon. Glad you brought up the good old day's. =P
Welp, here we are, a full decade later, and a fight between Anthony Joshua & Wladimir Klitschko for professional boxing's World Heavyweight Championship just took place at Wembley Stadium... with roughly 90,000 fans in attendance, and a record breaking pay-per-view audience from around the world. Not to mention those who followed along on social media, or the likely-staggering amount who pirated the event, thanks to am untold number of shady live stream. Yeah, it sounds like the sport of boxing is probably on the verge of death. No, no, you're totally right, Joe Rogan was a regular Nostradamus on SportsCenter that time. 😐 And look, I'm not even a huge boxing fan. I like it, and I do keep up with it pretty regularly online, but I haven't actually ordered a live boxing event since the time Mike Tyson literally chewed up Evander Holyfield. That's been damn near 20 years ago, when was in the friggin' eighth grade. On the other hand, I love MMA. Love it. I've been a fan since I watched my very first show, a rented (you 'member Movie Gallery?) VHS (you 'member video cassettes?!) copy of UFC 3, while it was still a new release. I love it. MMA is deeper, faster paced, more aggressive, and less political than pro boxing. And you're almost guaranteed at least a couple of big finishes on every card. It's just more entertaining, to me personally, than boxing. But boxing isn't going anywhere any time soon. Maybe never, unless society finally does get pussified enough to ban all sports which carry a strong risk of concussion-related health issues. I doubt that will actually happen... err, I certainly hope it doesn't happen, anyway. Still, if it does, then we'll be kissing MMA, American football, and a ton of other popular sports goodbye right along with boxing. Aside from some kind of safety-first ban, boxing will never go away. No matter how popular MMA becomes. The question isn't which sport is better (that's completely subjective), nor is it which sport will survive. The real question is why in the hell some of these stubborn "die hard" fans continuously refuse to accept the fact that mixed martial arts and boxing aren't mutually exclusive. The sports can, have, do, and will continue to exist (and oftentimes thrive) parallel to one another. The entire, base argument is stupid. It's like asking which is better, NASCAR or Formula One Racing, Pro Wrestling or Sports Entertainment, PGA Golf or the Extreme Frisbee League... just kidding, everyone knows those last two aren't real. It's all just two sides of the same damn coin, that's all. So, yeah, I'm pretty sure we should all just agree to let my oddly long comment section essay here serve as an official, final answer to this ridiculous goddamn debate. Now, turn on something you enjoy watching... and shut the fuck up about what the guy next door has on his television. Mootch-oats grosh-us, there, uh-meegoze.
I'M a big fan of MMA but Joe was wrong that no new names will come out of boxing. Bigger names did came out Manny PACMAN Pacquaio revive boxing period Mayweather though SUCKS
@@Chubzdoomer Lomachenko, Teofimo Lopez, Tank Davis, Erroll Spence, Canelo Alvarez, Gennady Golovkin, Jermail Charlo, Keith Thurman, Erroll Spence, Terrence Crawford, Deonta Wilder, Andre Ward, Tim Bradley, Danny Garcia, Mikey Garcia, Devin Haney, Adrien Bronner, Shawn Porter, Shakur Stevenson..lol too many names came after this debate. Lomachenko vs Lopez this past weekend was bigger than any ufc fight this year. Boxing is thriving right now, I cant wait for Spence vs Garcia
UFC is not a money maker like Boxing. Boxing can not be replaced. And a bunch of wrestling on the fucking ground is not better then the sweet sience of Boxing.
I love both. By the way, the fighters Joe Rogan mentioned like DeLaHoya and Hopkins aren't no longer the big names in boxing, Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Manny Pacquiao are the big names, and big names will remain.
You mean Ducknelo Alvarez ?and his Golden Boy promotion buying judges in his favor and ducking matches with possible opposition for buisness ? how does that compare to UFC fighters who rarely duck each other in comparison to boxing
And that's why boxing sucks compared to MMA you have welterweight champ Danny Garcia who fought a 78 or 73 rank. And in UFC superfights such as Velasquez vs Dos Santos and Jones vs Gustaffson. In boxing they choose to fight who ever they want good or bad and that's killing the sport
When you make it harder to knock someone unconscious by adding additional padding to a glove... It increases their chance of brain related head trauma from taking extra punches which wouldn't be necessary by simply using a lighter less padded glove as they do in MMA.
Is like compairing f1 vs rally races. Sure one car can go through different terrains and both tracks but not as fast ;) and not as exciting, you figure out which is wich.
Funny that Joe said that UFC would swallow boxing, and acted like UFC have more power in the world of fight sports... But how can it be then, that UFC has to move dates on their events, or find another arena everytime Showtime/HBO boxing have events in MGM Grand...? UFC managers book arenas in good time, but if Showtime or HBO is planning an boxing event... Then UFC will have to wait on a confirmation from these TV stations. Madison Sqare Garden & MGM Grand have better connections to boxing
Its only a matter of time. Boxing cant keep going as strong when theres only 1 or 2 superstars. Especially when the best avoid the best. Who actually wanted to see khan vs canelo? Not me i knew canelo was too big. Ggg is like 36/37 and is already on the later half of his career of fighting nobodys. Who is canelo gona fight next if not ggg or what about after ggg? Boxing is a joke with its 100s of weight classes and 100s of belts for each weight class. Its a joke how many weightclasses and belts there are in boxing. Boxing is more promotion and negotiation than fighting. Whats there to negotiate? If u really wanna foght the guy it will happen but none of these boxers are fighters there are all puppets to their promoters, kinda sad
kicking and punching are the 2 main things in fighting (not to understate grappling and wrestling there also very important) but a sport that only allows one of the 2 is the inferior sport. I think boxing is a great sport and I love to watch it but ufc will take over because it's just far more entertaining to see a person get knocked out in round 2 then to see maywhether dance around a ring for 12 rounds and winning by decision.
(Contd). Those are in fact the main parameters to take into account when gauging the growth of a business. People tend to talk about PPVs etc. the problem is that PPV is very short term and can fluctuate due to various factors, I myself don't get some cards, does that mean i am no more an MMA fan?? Not at all man. For me the growth of MMA is really outstanding when you realize that it took birth less than a couple of decades ago as compared to boxing which has existed since centuries now!
Agreed. Back in the day when UFC was first starting and it was just good old fashioned brawls with no rules, THAT was fun to watch, but now it's too much wrestling involved and rarely anyone in UFC can fight standing worth shit.
The sentence can be read either way "the only skill you need in MMA is wrestling" could mean you can be successful by just being a wrestler and taking people down or it could mean you have to have wrestling to be successful
@Mike E, they're combat sports & everything in boxing is legal in mma so of course they'll be compared. Its just horribly ineffective when elbows, knees, kicks, leg sweeps & trapping strikes are allowed. Boxing striking just falls apart as soon as one of those is employed. One grab of the arm & elbow to the skull or feint punch to the grill followed by a rib shattering kick & it's over for the boxer.
Don Frye was also an undefeated professional boxer & was drunk. Not that it matters, people stepped in before the fight was resolved. What we do know is Sonny was unwilling to take a pay day to fight him sober. James Toney already showed what happens when a high ranking boxer encounters an elite grappler. Same with Gene Lebell vs Milo Savage or John L Sullivan (then HW boxing champion) vs William Muldoon. If Don Frye is an MMA legend then they are all boxing legends too.
You just prove my point more, back in the stone age with the first ufc's, Don used his boxing skills to plow through his opponents, when he fought sonny, he was about 9-10 years removed from boxing training as he continued with mixed martial arts. PS, he fought ONCE in pro boxing and it was against a NOBODY.
Macao is basically pulling off a Dubai (which is also interested in getting Pacquiao and other fighters to fight there as well). With the high success of the first TR event, it appears that focus on the Chinese market will severally step up now...seeing the huge potential it has as an untapped market (china that is). UFC is trying to become more accessible threw tv deals as its ppv per event fights continue to plateau.
Cung Le & Anderson Silva are two of my favorites as well. See we have something in common despite race. Just like a black Brazilian Silva and a Vietnamese American Le have Korean martial arts black belts in common. Their kyo sah nim didn't care what race they were.
First of all, I respect both sports. However, I do enjoy boxing more. Everybody needs to stop looking at Mayweather as the authority of boxing. It is not boxing that is dying, but the fighters within it. Boxing contained amazing athletes. Fighters like Muhammad Ali, Joe Frazier, Mike Tyson, Sugar Ray Leonard, Jake Lamotta, Sugar Ray Robinson, Rocky Marciano, Jack Dempsey, etc. Boxing has huge potential to come back. It just needs fighters who fight and show heart, like the men I just listed.
+Daniel Dunn thats the point. everyone wants money, they see floyd not fight but make billions. floyd is a boxer and a great one but hes not a fighter. a fighter likes to fight a boxer likes to look good and make money. jus look at boxers today, tons of jab fests with these ridiculous trunks and shoes. examples of a fighter vs boxer would be tyson/duran vs mayweather/broner
My friend boxing will maintain as its done from since in ancient Greece invented.They cant just understand its not them same with kick boxing or mma just because they use their hands too.Boxing is the sience of hands mixed with perfect footwork highly technique levels and strategie included.I chose boxing for my sport and later formy work because it depends in how smart you are and not only how tough.
Free tv is what is the current move UFC is making, but where it will reach and its impact is very much uncertain at said point. This is choice to expand as the current top main events continue to unchange in the last year or so. Pac fight is november and UFC's entrance to Asia is already seen as an uphill battle that will expose their ability (or not) to adapt to the different demands of the vastly different asian countries.
UFC is gentlemen actually fighting. Boxing is close but still leaves out the dynamics of real life fighting. I would not even debate, MMA vs Boxing. Let the test of time answer that, boxing probably won't be around to much long. It sucks cause I do love boxing too.
Really because Couture did it to James Toney almost effortlessly. As did little Akiyama (welterweight) when he beat down 6 time world title contender Francois Botha. It's harder to land a game ending punch then taking a white belt to the floor.
I would tend to agree but according to former light heavy weight champion Chuck Liddell has stated that he has seen boxers take more punishment in one night then he has his whole career
not a chance, todays training is with my judo pal Lyndon. I've been training in martial arts 32 years now and have faced tough competition here & in Asia. you will be a cake walk, but don't think for a second I'm training light for it.
He was only a 2x champ because Mir (who broke Sylvia's arm) ended up in a motorcycle accident & had to vacate his title. UFC was on a very short supply of heavyweights because the best heavyweights where fighting for pride in that era.
I'll have to take your word for that because I don't live in the UK but seen many UFC streams from the UK. =P I wouldn't imagine someone who lives in California to be big media news for the UK... Kinda like how here most people couldn't even tell you who is the heavyweight boxing champion.
Boxing is a great style for the street. But when you combine it with other combat styles, it will be even better. On the other hand, if you were trying to combat someone with a knife, boxing alone will help, but might not be the best.
One FC is doing great for its first years, but its overall effect on the future remains to be really tested. It hasn't reached the level or exposure it can as of yet, so its future impact is still uncertain (although prospect as of now). Its military practice is great, but no real direct link to its helpfulness in revenue. Macao is simply trying its best to make itself a world tourism city, which is why it is allowing sporting events as an attraction for now.. cont..
Kinda be hard for Bisping to be on UK television since he lives in Orange county California (my neck of the woods.) It's the same for boxers in america, UK boxer's wouldn't get much attention here in the US either.
Absolutely love how Joe stood up for MMA !
Me too and still he lost 😅
Rogan predicted the future.
Really? For this Mayweather made 300 Millions and McGrgor 10
Look at the way the UFC is taking off. It's a fairly new sport and now guys are starting to earn some serious money, EA Sports are choosing to do a UFC game every time over a boxing one, Mayweather wants to fight Conor because no-one really cares about anyone in boxing as much and Conor would make him more money than anyone in his own sport. The UFC has taken over and that McGregor and Diaz rematch at the weekend was the final nail in the coffin.
Boxing is doing just fine and will always be around, you just don't follow the sport so you're ignorant. MMA or rather the UFC monopoly is hanging on shaky foundations. Just look how low their PPVs have been the last few yrs aside from Mcgregor or Rousey, the sport's popularity peaked in 09/10. Several of their major international markets have completely dried up. Btw the EA UFC games are complete shit. The EA boxing fight night series are masterpieces, and the next one is being released next yr.
Cory Hill I do follow Boxing and have all the boxing games, last one was Fight Night Champion on the old gen consoles. MMA is far more exciting, the top guys aren't allowed to run from the other top guys. There are more PPV draws than just Conor and Ronda, they are just the most popular like how Boxing has its most popular PPV draws too. I'm far from "ignorant", I follow both sports and have followed Boxing for longer but MMA gets me far more excited than Boxing ever has.
The Notorious Well ok then that's your opinion but you aren't entitled to the facts. The only major draws the UFC has currently are Conor and Ronda. UFC PPV sales peaked in 09/10 and have slowly diminished since then, I can post the numbers if you want to see them. Before UFC 202 their biggest PPV show was UFC 100, 7 years ago. Their international coverage is a mere fraction now compared to what it used to be. Sportnet which is the major sports broadcast provider in Canada stopped covering UFC. MMA is dead in Japan. It's also dead in the UK. Golovkin vs Brook just did a 50,000 seat arena. Canelo Alvarez just did 1.3 mil PPV buys fighting a nobody, UFC could barely do that even if they stacked their card with 3 title fights. As far as the games go, it isn't even close. The fight night series is a masterpiece. Many ppl still play FNC online even though it been out for yrs. EA is making another fight night in 2017. EA UFC games are crap and full of glitches and programming errors. The old EA MMA game is better than any UFC game that came out.
Boxing is still very popular but let's be honest UFC is on a whole different level. There's no longer a debate 9 years after this one.
??? How many Billion dollar events has UFC headlined? How many pay tv channels (HBO,Showtime) host UFC fights? How many UFC fighters can make 8 figures in a fight? Why does the biggest name in MMA want to compete in a boxing match, when he knows he has no chance of winning? Please answer this.
Strikeforce used to be on showtime. And that wasn't nearly as big as the UFC, the UFC ended up buying them out. You have no idea what you're talking about.
bigrubedawg If you had the intelligence to realize that MMA has only been around for about 20 years and even less in some states & countries. Compare that to how long boxing has existed. MMA has made money in far quicker time than boxing did. Just accept boxing is becoming less sought after and MMA/UFC is taking over.
Boxing=Boring
@@bigrubedawg agree beo
@@bigrubedawg ufc is still growing..what we are talking about is it will overtake within 10 years or so...including financially
"If you don't think MMA is fighting... you are not a fighter." Mike Tyson
If you don’t think mma is fighting you haven’t been in a real fight
Joe hasn't changed. Lmao love this Guy.
and now UFC is going to be on ESPN in 2019...crazy but I love it
There's no accounting for taste in some.. 🤦🏻♂️
SPORT OF FIGHTING versus SPORT OF PUNCHING , perfectly said
boxing is still great don’t get me wrong
There both sports of fighting just different iterations. Because mma also has rules meaning its a iteration of fighting as well
I find it funny that in most cases Boxing fans that disregard MMA known next to nothing about MMA. Now I'm not claiming to be the world's biggest Boxing buff or fan, but I'd say I know a little more about Boxing than most Boxing fans would know about MMA.
stephen thompson and connor mcgregor are more pleasing to watch than any boxer
Cory Sandhagen, Izzy Adesanya, Petr Yan, Ciryl Gane and Jiri Procahzka are even more entertaining
@@cognito8325 idk fury wilder 3 was more entertaining than any of the fights than any of the fighters you listed had been in.
@@Hello-ig1px Lmao only if Fury vs Wilder 3 is the only fight you've watched. It was good but there's been waaaay better fights in boxing just over the past 2 years.
No question!!!
Love boxing. Love MMA. That's it!
Nothing wrong with that
Boxing is mma
“Young white guys”
lmao
Hes a self hatingcuck
I agree with Joe. Many people wont agree but I also think that a good submission is equivalent to a good knockout.
I'm a BJJ Brown Belt so obviously I'd prefer a submission over a knockout. The reason I love a submission over a knockout is because until that very moment when someone gets knocked out they're still in the fight, they have no control over themselves being knocked out, but they were still in the fight until they got knocked out. Now when you submit someone, unlike a knockout they have control over their decisions and when they tap out, theyre mentally saying I give up. You win. I am defenceless. I do not want to go on. Thats why I love a good submission.
@@bobbygalyon5580It’s like a checkmate, and the opponent recognizes it and accepts their fate one way or another
UFC is so much better than Boxing, example is Mayweather vs Manny P or MacGreg vs Diaz nuff said
who made more money?
Mayweather has made a lot of money off of dumb cunts who pay to watch him
who cares about money. soccer stars make a shit load and that sh is boring af. UFC will eventually be there. Boxing has been around forever
"UFC" is an organization, boxing is a sport. I think you mean MMA is better than boxing
What a load of tut
“As long as they get young white guys to watch”
*shows a clip of Tito Ortiz beating up ken shamrock
UFC all the way! Would love to see a boxer box and weave themselves into a roundhouse followed by a submission.
One art of fighting ain't near exciting as 10 or more!
Jesus this video is giving me Tinnitus
This is a fight, not a debate
Boxing is finished, Floyd Mayweather v Logan Paul lmao. These greedy promoters and scared boxers don't fight each other because they're scared of losing.
2:49 pretty much sums up this argument for me. " [MMA] is the sport of fighting. What boxing is is the sport of punching."
--Well said Joe. That's pretty much the answer to this age-old argument. And I'm the same way. I love rally all arts of bodily combat and love boxing and watching Tyson and Holyfield and Lennox Lewis fights from the 90s, but it just doesn't compare to the freedom of giving someone a swift roundhouse kick to the face or watching someone pull it off.
For UFC, the total number of buys was down largely because they ran 13 pay-per-view events in 2012 that generated approximately 5.7 million buys as compared to 16 the previous year that did approximately 6.4 million.
The overall average rose from about 400,000 buys per show to an estimated 438,000.
Joe Rogan is the type of dude that will win an argument by being the loudest guy in the room.
Are you listening to tone or the actual conversation? All his points are valid
Yes, I listened to the actual conversation and most of what he said is not based in fact, it is a matter of opinion, when he says that MMA is "much more exciting than other combat sports" that is an opinion. When Joe Rogan mentions MMA is the "sport of fighting" I don't know how many real fights have you have been in but MMA is not real fighting its not even close. Then he says boxing will go away and get swallowed by MMA, He is trying to win an argument that's all. Where are the numbers and data to support half the things he says in the video? Then he is actually trying to argue that sport jujitsu is a more visually appealing sport then boxing.
scott noble I guess Joe hasnt heard of Thurman, Porter, Joshua, Lomachenko, Bradley, Beterbiev....Name me 6 rising superstars in UFC Joe? Superstars with as much potential as just those 6? Should we mention Algeiri and Kovalev maybe to fill out a nice 8 Joe? Saying no new boxing superstars on the horizon lol. And he says boxers hate each other? He came off as a moron
You're prolly right, but I think he's mostly right in this case, regardless of tone
***** That man said MMA isnt fighting. Im done with this world.
Boxing is dying, being replaced by better entertainment
Victor Kuk
You are a Moron.
First of all. Brock Lesnar was, and is an amazing athlete. look up his college wrestling career. He was a fucking animal. yeah, he spent some time at WWE. but so what? hes back there now, so what? you can't be a world class fighter and an entertainer? He may not have been the best, yeah, he got lucky and shot to the top. but hes still a great fighter.
the only reason boxers stay on top is because there isnt any competition anymore. you only have a dozen or so people that are worth a shit because their entire talent pool now goes to MMA. nobody gives a shit about boxing.
this interview was 7 years ago. if you still are arguing that the boxing guy was right, when every single bit of evidence shows that he was wrong. Then you are a moron.
You put the best boxer in the world, against even a pretty shitty MMA fighter. and that MMA fighter is going to kick the fucking shit out of that boxer every day of the week.
oooo you puched! but I dodged that shit and drop kicked ya in the face. lol bite me Tyson.
Victor Kuk If no skill is required then explain how to successfully get out of a leg, arm, or head lock without any effort or injury.
Why do I have to? your all ready in the hospital.
Patrick LeFrancois coz you are in the head lock and no jab, swing or bite to the ear will ever help you
It’s 2019 and this shit debate is still going on, just appreciate both sports
I love ufc way more than boxing. Conor mcgregor is thousand times better fighter than fluid gayweather
Free Bee agree but there both on the joke ;)
Both in on the joke
3 years later and this comment still comes back to bite you in the ass 😂😂😂
Joe Rogan was playing chess, those boxing guys are playing checkers. UFC runs more PPVs with deeper cards and more exciting fights. Boxing may not die, but after Mayweather/Pacquiauo there's only GGG or Canelo left. Boxing NEEDS superstars to even hold a PPV event. The UFC doesn't. And the UFC still has a healthy, consistent PPV business model.
Boxing is in desperate need of a stage 1, system reboot of everything. From simplifying weight classes to single champions in those divisions. Boxing is still the wild west, it took 5 years to make Mayweather/Pacquiauo happen. That wouldn't happen in the UFC. Boxing is dying, while the UFC keeps adding fight cards and expanding internationally.
Keep cherry picking a single sentence while disregarding all the pts u can't refute. Good job.
Regular boxing isn't even as enjoyable to watch as kickboxing or Muay Thai, much less MMA.
I respect MMA and I enjoy watching it, but to me, when they get on the ground it gets really slow to me. When things pick up in boxing and you see the two boxers ducking and weaving, it's just amazing to watch. I like UFC when they're only standing up, but even then it can get really slow. I like UFC and I enjoy watching it, but I just find myself on the edge of the seat more when something exciting has in Boxing.
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Congrats to Mayorga for beating a rookie & coming in overweight. I'll be more impressed when he start's fighting guys in the top 500.
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Are you serious? Boxing has like 5 times as many fighters fighting professionally. As long as there’s talent constantly coming through which there is boxing will never die. You’re delusional is you actually believe this. Boxing will always be more popular than MMA with fighters and fans and im a fan of both.
@@Kingofthekop1 your a clown. Boxing for sure has been around forever. But it's lost lots of momentum all because talents won't match up against each other for padded records. And all the monopoly in the boxing game so your a total idiot if you think this isn't true
@outlawshitalldaygarcia8318 your the clown. What is ufc doing? Not a damn thing! Every press it's dana white saying some record breaking stat, always puts ufc events on boxing days. Ufc is down so bad. Not everyone wanna see 2 dudes rolling around tickling each other n shit.. over here we fight like men with 2 hands all that rolling around in the floor tickling each other's feet is over there for the little boys little boy.
@@outlawshitalldaygarcia8318 I watch both sports religiously and boxing is doing fine. This year has actually been pretty strong so far with Spence/Crawford and Tank/Garcia both doing big business. Last weekend AJ fought and the same night there was an instant classic war with Valdez/Navarette. Usyk fighting in a couple of weeks and then another big business fight Canelo/Charlo. Prospects who could become future stars like Boots, Shakur, Jared Anderson, Vergil Ortiz, Zayas etc. The UFC HW champ abandoning his belt and running off to boxing, RUclipsrs beatign up MMA fighters in boxing matches etc. I would hardly say boxing is "hanging on barely"
@@ministryOFmuffok do theres still decent fights going on but overall
MMA has so much more
It's like Bruce Lee said: "The best fighter is not a Boxer, Karate or Judo man. The best fighter is someone who can adapt to any style, to be formless, to adopt an individual's own style and not following the system of styles."
Mercer wasn't just a boxer, he wrestled at a young age. Competed as a pro kick boxer & also trained in BJJ. A pure boxer example would be James Toney vs Randy Couture or Francois Botha vs little Akiyama.
UFC has everything boxing has plus more. You can't argue that. Boxing I great but UFC fighters will crush most boxers in a real fight
The best fighters in the world are in the UFC. A lot of them can box and they would beat most boxers up in a street fight. Think before you type
I like boxing but Ufc is taking over knowing the so called boxing champion Floyd Mayweather won't fight the best boxer while Ufc fighters want the best of the best.
OuchPleaseNoooo ufc fighters would fuck boxers
whatever that means..
John Walhan
Thats all true on paper, but i'm afraid real life gives different results. Few times mma fighters have fought real street fights, especially against a boxer (alas Don Frye)...they got owned!
Boxers dont hate each other lol. It's a sport Joe, like football or Baseball. With long standing rules. Why not allow clotheslines in football and let pitchers throw at batters?
Well first thing's first, an Ionic bond forms between two metals while a covalent bond forms between two non-metals.
You're right, the boxer takes him out in the first round! Good point. :) just watch Ray Mercer vs Tim Sylvia, Sylvia was only 2 years removed from the HW title whilst Mercer last fought seriously in 2003...
I love both MMA and boxing, and I'm even sympathetic to the idea of boxing as a more refined science...but I feel like Rogan is being a D, here.
I never hear people talking about boxing. Only mma. Chuck would do a lot better in boxing then Floyd would do in mma. Mma fighters have a lot more skill then boxers. Chuck is a much better fighter then Floyd
Boxing takes time to master. In MMA, you have a lot to worry about other than hands. I think it is true that guys who can't make it in the sweet science go do MMA because of takedowns and kicks. Hands are hard to train. I find it easier to kick a boxer.
+Clarence M
"I think it is true that guys who can't make it in the sweet science go do MMA"
There's no evidence for that. Many MMA fighters have proven to be very good boxers (Alex Gustafsson and Fábio Maldonado). MMA fighters are not failed boxers, that's a stupid thing to say. Many of them formerly excelled in wrestling and jiu-jitsu.
It's very hard to be an elite boxer. Gustaffson and Maldonado are MMA boxing good. Put them in a ring against a real boxer. They will get picked apart. Boxing is different. Sure, there are guys who took up boxing to master it and to bring to their MMA.
There is no evidence. It is my opinion. I said, "I think."
I didn't say all MMA fighters. You misread what I said, and that's stupid.
"Guys who can't make it to the sweet science."
How did you do in your 6 months of jiu jitsu training? Did you find it harder/easier than expected? Were you able to defend takedowns/submissions easily?
Not really
They're both unique in their own way. Both involve two people to fight the heck outta each other to give their fans a show! Both of them do just that, there is no "one is better than the other" since it is comparing soccer to basketball.
Boxing VS MMA The boxer won
This interview was actually staged too hype both sports..remember it takes money too make money ;)
Joe Roman definitely defeated Lou Dibella in this argument, but he must be looking at this argument now and telling himself boy was I wrong. If the numbers and big fights continue, boxing will murder the UFC this year. Injuries are taken into account and still doesn't excuse the recent numbers of the UFC. Mayweather and Pacquiao have inherited super stardom since this debate and it looks like many will follow.
William Phillips still feel that way?
The late 1800's to early 1900's had the Merikan contests were huge in Japan (boxer vs grappler.) Vale Tudo was going on in Brazil around 1920's onward. They even did that John L. Sullivan (then heavyweight world boxing champion) & he lost in two minutes to greco roman champion William Muldoon. Glad you brought up the good old day's. =P
So much boxing bias in this video, Joe Rogan is right in what he says
Welp, here we are, a full decade later, and a fight between Anthony Joshua & Wladimir Klitschko for professional boxing's World Heavyweight Championship just took place at Wembley Stadium... with roughly 90,000 fans in attendance, and a record breaking pay-per-view audience from around the world. Not to mention those who followed along on social media, or the likely-staggering amount who pirated the event, thanks to am untold number of shady live stream.
Yeah, it sounds like the sport of boxing is probably on the verge of death. No, no, you're totally right, Joe Rogan was a regular Nostradamus on SportsCenter that time. 😐
And look, I'm not even a huge boxing fan. I like it, and I do keep up with it pretty regularly online, but I haven't actually ordered a live boxing event since the time Mike Tyson literally chewed up Evander Holyfield. That's been damn near 20 years ago, when was in the friggin' eighth grade.
On the other hand, I love MMA. Love it. I've been a fan since I watched my very first show, a rented (you 'member Movie Gallery?) VHS (you 'member video cassettes?!) copy of UFC 3, while it was still a new release. I love it. MMA is deeper, faster paced, more aggressive, and less political than pro boxing. And you're almost guaranteed at least a couple of big finishes on every card. It's just more entertaining, to me personally, than boxing.
But boxing isn't going anywhere any time soon. Maybe never, unless society finally does get pussified enough to ban all sports which carry a strong risk of concussion-related health issues. I doubt that will actually happen... err, I certainly hope it doesn't happen, anyway. Still, if it does, then we'll be kissing MMA, American football, and a ton of other popular sports goodbye right along with boxing. Aside from some kind of safety-first ban, boxing will never go away. No matter how popular MMA becomes.
The question isn't which sport is better (that's completely subjective), nor is it which sport will survive. The real question is why in the hell some of these stubborn "die hard" fans continuously refuse to accept the fact that mixed martial arts and boxing aren't mutually exclusive. The sports can, have, do, and will continue to exist (and oftentimes thrive) parallel to one another. The entire, base argument is stupid. It's like asking which is better, NASCAR or Formula One Racing, Pro Wrestling or Sports Entertainment, PGA Golf or the Extreme Frisbee League... just kidding, everyone knows those last two aren't real.
It's all just two sides of the same damn coin, that's all. So, yeah, I'm pretty sure we should all just agree to let my oddly long comment section essay here serve as an official, final answer to this ridiculous goddamn debate.
Now, turn on something you enjoy watching... and shut the fuck up about what the guy next door has on his television.
Mootch-oats grosh-us, there, uh-meegoze.
spitting facts
Oh yeah gotta love boxing's 1 or 2 good events a year! And also how all the top boxers avoid eachother! Makes it so fun to watch
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Only thing I don't like about UFC is they are allowed to jump on top of a fighter when he's knocked out
I'M a big fan of MMA but Joe was wrong that no new names will come out of boxing.
Bigger names did came out
Manny PACMAN Pacquaio revive boxing period
Mayweather though SUCKS
Peace
Just my opinion :)
ANDY DELOS SANTOS, JR. Pacquiao was popular well before this debate took place.
@@Chubzdoomer Lomachenko, Teofimo Lopez, Tank Davis, Erroll Spence, Canelo Alvarez, Gennady Golovkin, Jermail Charlo, Keith Thurman, Erroll Spence, Terrence Crawford, Deonta Wilder, Andre Ward, Tim Bradley, Danny Garcia, Mikey Garcia, Devin Haney, Adrien Bronner, Shawn Porter, Shakur Stevenson..lol too many names came after this debate. Lomachenko vs Lopez this past weekend was bigger than any ufc fight this year. Boxing is thriving right now, I cant wait for Spence vs Garcia
UFC is not a money maker like Boxing. Boxing can not be replaced. And a bunch of wrestling on the fucking ground is not better then the sweet sience of Boxing.
hahahah fast forward three years ufc is sold for 4 billion hahahaha salty fanboy
and still fighters don't make Boxing money. Probably why McGregor wants his big payday, nice try fanboy
Dont Ask fighters used to make more money before the Reebok deal
Don't Ask you gotta admit. Nowadays, boxing has been dying out.
I love both. By the way, the fighters Joe Rogan mentioned like DeLaHoya and Hopkins aren't no longer the big names in boxing, Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Manny Pacquiao are the big names, and big names will remain.
Love how joe predicted how no more superstars in boxing after the mayweather, paquio era
what about canelo ?
You mean Ducknelo Alvarez ?and his Golden Boy promotion buying judges in his favor and ducking matches with possible opposition for buisness ? how does that compare to UFC fighters who rarely duck each other in comparison to boxing
And that's why boxing sucks compared to MMA you have welterweight champ Danny Garcia who fought a 78 or 73 rank. And in UFC superfights such as Velasquez vs Dos Santos and Jones vs Gustaffson. In boxing they choose to fight who ever they want good or bad and that's killing the sport
A ufc guy would destroy aa boxer
it really depends...look at Randy Couture vs. James Toney, Randy won with ease but look at Tim Sylvia vs. Ray Mercer, Ray destroyed Sylvia.
Vector Vent because he chose to box with him
Unless if it's a boxing match
Diaz 1,2,5
Rogan 1,2,3,4,5
TheTrap how do you get dropped 2 times and then control the fight for 1 min and when a round
When you make it harder to knock someone unconscious by adding additional padding to a glove... It increases their chance of brain related head trauma from taking extra punches which wouldn't be necessary by simply using a lighter less padded glove as they do in MMA.
Where did I ever say it wasn't fighting? Every combat sport is fighting with different rules of engagement.
Boxing all the way
beautiful rear naked choke? lol
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder
Either way, both are their own unique way of fighting and really can't be compared, if that is what you are doing.
Is like compairing f1 vs rally races. Sure one car can go through different terrains and both tracks but not as fast ;) and not as exciting, you figure out which is wich.
Funny that Joe said that UFC would swallow boxing, and acted like UFC have more power in the world of fight sports... But how can it be then, that UFC has to move dates on their events, or find another arena everytime Showtime/HBO boxing have events in MGM Grand...?
UFC managers book arenas in good time, but if Showtime or HBO is planning an boxing event... Then UFC will have to wait on a confirmation from these TV stations.
Madison Sqare Garden & MGM Grand have better connections to boxing
+Jon John no wrong when ufc gets 4 million ppvs let me know they still havnt broke are first top record that was almost 20 years ago
Its only a matter of time. Boxing cant keep going as strong when theres only 1 or 2 superstars. Especially when the best avoid the best. Who actually wanted to see khan vs canelo? Not me i knew canelo was too big. Ggg is like 36/37 and is already on the later half of his career of fighting nobodys. Who is canelo gona fight next if not ggg or what about after ggg? Boxing is a joke with its 100s of weight classes and 100s of belts for each weight class. Its a joke how many weightclasses and belts there are in boxing. Boxing is more promotion and negotiation than fighting. Whats there to negotiate? If u really wanna foght the guy it will happen but none of these boxers are fighters there are all puppets to their promoters, kinda sad
Boxing is dead and the sport is trash
Conor McGregor's fights alone did more PPV buys than all of boxing in 2016. So, there's that.
kicking and punching are the 2 main things in fighting (not to understate grappling and wrestling there also very important) but a sport that only allows one of the 2 is the inferior sport. I think boxing is a great sport and I love to watch it but ufc will take over because it's just far more entertaining to see a person get knocked out in round 2 then to see maywhether dance around a ring for 12 rounds and winning by decision.
what year did this interview take place?
+Spiderman Still not even close to boxing. Probably 2007 or before.
Right... And when you box you always fight no rules, bare knuckles, and fight to the death...
Rogan owned this guy !!
(Contd). Those are in fact the main parameters to take into account when gauging the growth of a business. People tend to talk about PPVs etc. the problem is that PPV is very short term and can fluctuate due to various factors, I myself don't get some cards, does that mean i am no more an MMA fan?? Not at all man.
For me the growth of MMA is really outstanding when you realize that it took birth less than a couple of decades ago as compared to boxing which has existed since centuries now!
Agreed. Back in the day when UFC was first starting and it was just good old fashioned brawls with no rules, THAT was fun to watch, but now it's too much wrestling involved and rarely anyone in UFC can fight standing worth shit.
what would a boxer do on the ground...?
The sentence can be read either way
"the only skill you need in MMA is wrestling" could mean you can be successful by just being a wrestler and taking people down or it could mean you have to have wrestling to be successful
i love boxing too. out of all limited sports its tied with kickboxing for me to watch.
@Mike E, they're combat sports & everything in boxing is legal in mma so of course they'll be compared. Its just horribly ineffective when elbows, knees, kicks, leg sweeps & trapping strikes are allowed. Boxing striking just falls apart as soon as one of those is employed. One grab of the arm & elbow to the skull or feint punch to the grill followed by a rib shattering kick & it's over for the boxer.
2020 and Joe rogan statements aged well !
Don Frye was also an undefeated professional boxer & was drunk. Not that it matters, people stepped in before the fight was resolved. What we do know is Sonny was unwilling to take a pay day to fight him sober. James Toney already showed what happens when a high ranking boxer encounters an elite grappler. Same with Gene Lebell vs Milo Savage or John L Sullivan (then HW boxing champion) vs William Muldoon. If Don Frye is an MMA legend then they are all boxing legends too.
You just prove my point more, back in the stone age with the first ufc's, Don used his boxing skills to plow through his opponents, when he fought sonny, he was about 9-10 years removed from boxing training as he continued with mixed martial arts. PS, he fought ONCE in pro boxing and it was against a NOBODY.
Macao is basically pulling off a Dubai (which is also interested in getting Pacquiao and other fighters to fight there as well). With the high success of the first TR event, it appears that focus on the Chinese market will severally step up now...seeing the huge potential it has as an untapped market (china that is).
UFC is trying to become more accessible threw tv deals as its ppv per event fights continue to plateau.
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when did he ever say that? I can't find a source that proves that he said that.
Cung Le & Anderson Silva are two of my favorites as well. See we have something in common despite race. Just like a black Brazilian Silva and a Vietnamese American Le have Korean martial arts black belts in common. Their kyo sah nim didn't care what race they were.
First of all, I respect both sports. However, I do enjoy boxing more. Everybody needs to stop looking at Mayweather as the authority of boxing. It is not boxing that is dying, but the fighters within it. Boxing contained amazing athletes. Fighters like Muhammad Ali, Joe Frazier, Mike Tyson, Sugar Ray Leonard, Jake Lamotta, Sugar Ray Robinson, Rocky Marciano, Jack Dempsey, etc. Boxing has huge potential to come back. It just needs fighters who fight and show heart, like the men I just listed.
+Daniel Dunn thats the point. everyone wants money, they see floyd not fight but make billions. floyd is a boxer and a great one but hes not a fighter. a fighter likes to fight a boxer likes to look good and make money. jus look at boxers today, tons of jab fests with these ridiculous trunks and shoes. examples of a fighter vs boxer would be tyson/duran vs mayweather/broner
My friend boxing will maintain as its done from since in ancient Greece invented.They cant just understand its not them same with kick boxing or mma just because they use their hands too.Boxing is the sience of hands mixed with perfect footwork highly technique levels and strategie included.I chose boxing for my sport and later formy work because it depends in how smart you are and not only how tough.
Free tv is what is the current move UFC is making, but where it will reach and its impact is very much uncertain at said point. This is choice to expand as the current top main events continue to unchange in the last year or so.
Pac fight is november and UFC's entrance to Asia is already seen as an uphill battle that will expose their ability (or not) to adapt to the different demands of the vastly different asian countries.
To clarify, I am giving the 2013 numbers, not 2012. Sorry for the confusion.
Oh how this has aged well
UFC is gentlemen actually fighting. Boxing is close but still leaves out the dynamics of real life fighting. I would not even debate, MMA vs Boxing. Let the test of time answer that, boxing probably won't be around to much long. It sucks cause I do love boxing too.
Wow that is a perfect assessment.
Really because Couture did it to James Toney almost effortlessly. As did little Akiyama (welterweight) when he beat down 6 time world title contender Francois Botha. It's harder to land a game ending punch then taking a white belt to the floor.
I would tend to agree but according to former light heavy weight champion Chuck Liddell has stated that he has seen boxers take more punishment in one night then he has his whole career
not a chance, todays training is with my judo pal Lyndon. I've been training in martial arts 32 years now and have faced tough competition here & in Asia. you will be a cake walk, but don't think for a second I'm training light for it.
He was only a 2x champ because Mir (who broke Sylvia's arm) ended up in a motorcycle accident & had to vacate his title. UFC was on a very short supply of heavyweights because the best heavyweights where fighting for pride in that era.
They are just trying to say that boxing=punching mma=full fighting
Been there done that for 6 months and had a fight at the end and won easily in the first round.
I'll have to take your word for that because I don't live in the UK but seen many UFC streams from the UK. =P
I wouldn't imagine someone who lives in California to be big media news for the UK... Kinda like how here most people couldn't even tell you who is the heavyweight boxing champion.
Boxing is a great style for the street. But when you combine it with other combat styles, it will be even better.
On the other hand, if you were trying to combat someone with a knife, boxing alone will help, but might not be the best.
looks like I struck that cord pretty hard.
One FC is doing great for its first years, but its overall effect on the future remains to be really tested. It hasn't reached the level or exposure it can as of yet, so its future impact is still uncertain (although prospect as of now).
Its military practice is great, but no real direct link to its helpfulness in revenue.
Macao is simply trying its best to make itself a world tourism city, which is why it is allowing sporting events as an attraction for now.. cont..
Kinda be hard for Bisping to be on UK television since he lives in Orange county California (my neck of the woods.) It's the same for boxers in america, UK boxer's wouldn't get much attention here in the US either.
Every great fighter has to start from somewhere.
Dana white was very smart for getting rogan to represent the ufc 👌
Can anyone else hear that high pitched noise on this?
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The boxing guy looks like my freshman study hall teacher