My wife and myself went on the route from York to Carlisle, the journey was amazing rolling by the Yorkshire dales and country side with its green rolling hill dotted with sheep ,we traveled Frist class the carriage set out from 50/60s its was a full day getting back in to york 22:00 hrs a great day 🇬🇧
Living in this quiet railway town from 68 to 73 as a teenager I spent a lot of time hanging around the shed and the locos. Was there at the demise of the BR shed and the early days of Steamtown. Did enquire with West Coast Railways. Someone online had mentioned an earlier open day but the response from WCR was they had no knowledge of it :-(
Most of those locos will likely end up being spares to keep others going. Cannibalism at it's finest. Do love the way they've got what looks like two ends of Mk1 coaches and chopped them up to make sheds to store barrels of stuff under. Good bit od recycling that.
@@miniature-airlines no the reason it got closed was because WCR bought out the majority of the shareholders and decided to focus more on mainline work rather than having the site open as a museum.
@@owenslanejunction7544 Riviera Trains stock has also been aquired by WCR too. I think instead of buying bloody coaches they need to focus on fitting them with CDL's and scrapping the spares donor locos.
@@miniature-airlines problem with Carnforth shed is the building is grade 2 listed so to refurbish or replace the roof they'd need to get permission to undertake the work. I doubt they will sort it unless it reaches the point where it's completely unsafe.
I was last in there about 97-98 and the pigeon s**t in the coaling towers was meters deep, I'm guessing there's literally tons in there now, could probably sell it to a garden centre.
Lots and lots of demic locos whose only purpose is a source of spares which after 5 years ish of stripping eventually get cut up for scrap value. Looks like there’s an 08, 33, 37’s and 47’s in the scrap line whose fate will be inevitable. I can’t see wcrc lasting much past 10-15 years as they’ll be unable to keep their fleet going without stripping more and more locos with no new supply of 37/47’s around to procure.
Perhaps they’ll eventually need to purchase redundant class 66’s from DBS/FL/GBRf if these operators go down the hybrid route, for eg the upcoming 99’s??!!
Carnforth Motive Power Depot is for a former steam locomotive shed which closed in 1968 at the end of steam. For a while it was open as a museum to the public but closed a number of years ago & is now the base of West Coast Railways. However WCR don't allow the public to access the site unless it's through a private tour & with those while you can film video footage and take photographs, WCR say that this content must NOT be published over social media or on the internet at all. It's for private social use only, I would like to visit Carnforth shed one day but it's just a job of finding a tour that's being planned which can be tricky OR unless you know someone in the company who'd be willing to let you have a private visit.
Looks very disorganised with coaches and locos everywhere, all they really seem to care about are the steam locomotives 😢 I saw several diesels just sitting out in the open. Not as bad as Nene Valleys coaches which are in terrible condition, or the state of 33109s paintwork at the East Lancs Railway.
Problem is with how much space the coaches take up alongside the scrap stock, what they really should do is expand the site and have a purpose built carriage shed constructed to store the coaches alongside another shed building for the diesels. The steam shed itself needs a massive makeover including replacement of the roof but it's a grade 2 listed building which is an issue because of what needs to be done just to get permission to work on it.
WCR don't have any use for the TPO's as they aren't used for passenger trains and unless they're sold to a heritage railway they will most likely end up getting scrapped.
I've worked at far worse looking places than this and most BR depots looked like this back in the day! on the ground it would look totally different. Any idea what number the Advenza freight 47 is at 3:30?
@@owenslanejunction7544 Riviera Trains stock has also been aquired by WCR. Rather than buying more coaches which in their present state wont be allowed on the mainline due to lack of CDL's as bolts on the doors soon wont be legal, they need to sort out fitting them with CDL's (LSL have them fitted to their stock so the design for them does exist and can be used by WCR for their coaches).
My wife and myself went on the route from York to Carlisle, the journey was amazing rolling by the Yorkshire dales and country side with its green rolling hill dotted with sheep ,we traveled Frist class the carriage set out from 50/60s its was a full day getting back in to york 22:00 hrs a great day 🇬🇧
Sounds like a great day out. You're lucky that your wife likes trains! 👍. Thanks for watching 👀
Living in this quiet railway town from 68 to 73 as a teenager I spent a lot of time hanging around the shed and the locos. Was there at the demise of the BR shed and the early days of Steamtown. Did enquire with West Coast Railways. Someone online had mentioned an earlier open day but the response from WCR was they had no knowledge of it :-(
An open day would be great, but I get the feeling they're against anyone being on their site these days. Thanks for watching 👀
Epic shunting to get some of that stock out. Went there back in the mid 80s with the kids.
Was a nice depot back then in the 70s, 80s
Bit of a sorry state shame you can’t walk around here anymore, some 47s were cut up here few weeks ago. Looks like they won’t be the last either
Definetly . The whole place looks in a sorry state. Health and safety closed it down to the public due to a death I believe
Most of those locos will likely end up being spares to keep others going. Cannibalism at it's finest.
Do love the way they've got what looks like two ends of Mk1 coaches and chopped them up to make sheds to store barrels of stuff under. Good bit od recycling that.
@@miniature-airlines no the reason it got closed was because WCR bought out the majority of the shareholders and decided to focus more on mainline work rather than having the site open as a museum.
Didn’t know there was any drs 33’s left in drs livery, definitely will go sometime this year to see that. Great flyover mate
By that you mean 47's right?
@@class50thrasher nope, if you see in the video there is a drs class 33
@@jamiestrainhub Any particular timestamp?
Yes, there's one parked up, but I don't think it's going anywhere soon! Thanks for watching 😀
@@class50thrasher on the 2nd row at around 0:25 - DRS class 33
Thoroughly enjoyed your flyover. Seamed to be a lot more coaching stock compared to my last visit 11st September, 2021, with the assistance of ICRS.
Thank you, and many thanks for watching 👀
wcr have recently bought some from nemesis rail
@@owenslanejunction7544 Riviera Trains stock has also been aquired by WCR too. I think instead of buying bloody coaches they need to focus on fitting them with CDL's and scrapping the spares donor locos.
Was that The Last Coaling Tower in the UK I saw in the background ?
I'm not sure if it's still in operation
@@miniature-airlines it doesn't stopped working years ago
So much more covered accommodation needed for those locos and rolling stock.
Yes. It looks like they've built a newish shed at the front, but the old shed roof is falling in, so not much coveted room at all
@@miniature-airlines problem with Carnforth shed is the building is grade 2 listed so to refurbish or replace the roof they'd need to get permission to undertake the work. I doubt they will sort it unless it reaches the point where it's completely unsafe.
Did ya see the other 03 shunter there excluding the one we saw in BR green?
No, I think it must have been inside. Thanks for watching
I was last in there about 97-98 and the pigeon s**t in the coaling towers was meters deep, I'm guessing there's literally tons in there now, could probably sell it to a garden centre.
Do they actually sell pigeon s**t at the garden centre? 😂😂
@@miniature-airlines Chicken S**t pellets, who would know the difference, a fortune waiting!
Lots and lots of demic locos whose only purpose is a source of spares which after 5 years ish of stripping eventually get cut up for scrap value. Looks like there’s an 08, 33, 37’s and 47’s in the scrap line whose fate will be inevitable. I can’t see wcrc lasting much past 10-15 years as they’ll be unable to keep their fleet going without stripping more and more locos with no new supply of 37/47’s around to procure.
Agree. The parts will run out eventually unless they can start fabricating them
Perhaps they’ll eventually need to purchase redundant class 66’s from DBS/FL/GBRf if these operators go down the hybrid route, for eg the upcoming 99’s??!!
Great video
Is this part of the main line British railways (though I know British rail is privatised) or preserved railway?
Cheers Dan
West Coast Railways are a special charter train operator on the main line. Thanks for watching
Carnforth Motive Power Depot is for a former steam locomotive shed which closed in 1968 at the end of steam. For a while it was open as a museum to the public but closed a number of years ago & is now the base of West Coast Railways. However WCR don't allow the public to access the site unless it's through a private tour & with those while you can film video footage and take photographs, WCR say that this content must NOT be published over social media or on the internet at all. It's for private social use only, I would like to visit Carnforth shed one day but it's just a job of finding a tour that's being planned which can be tricky OR unless you know someone in the company who'd be willing to let you have a private visit.
What's the red German style shunter?
I'm not sure what it was, sorry.
@@miniature-airlinesI think it's an ex cross rail shunter
Looks very disorganised with coaches and locos everywhere, all they really seem to care about are the steam locomotives 😢
I saw several diesels just sitting out in the open. Not as bad as Nene Valleys coaches which are in terrible condition, or the state of 33109s paintwork at the East Lancs Railway.
I thought that too. Guessing all the important stuff is kept inside the shed
Problem is with how much space the coaches take up alongside the scrap stock, what they really should do is expand the site and have a purpose built carriage shed constructed to store the coaches alongside another shed building for the diesels. The steam shed itself needs a massive makeover including replacement of the roof but it's a grade 2 listed building which is an issue because of what needs to be done just to get permission to work on it.
Very unkempt. Looks like a coal yard. Sad those TPO coaches are just rotting away.
Very. I don't think the drab livery of West Coast does it any favours tho
WCR don't have any use for the TPO's as they aren't used for passenger trains and unless they're sold to a heritage railway they will most likely end up getting scrapped.
Very ugly yard with lots of rotting corpses, doesn't look like a nice place to work for WCRC.
I've worked at far worse looking places than this and most BR depots looked like this back in the day! on the ground it would look totally different.
Any idea what number the Advenza freight 47 is at 3:30?
57005 I think is the advenza
Drab livery of West Coast doesn't help. looks a bit depressing these days
wcr have now scrapped all their spares locomotives and spares carriages to make space for the stock coming from nemesis rail
@@owenslanejunction7544 Riviera Trains stock has also been aquired by WCR. Rather than buying more coaches which in their present state wont be allowed on the mainline due to lack of CDL's as bolts on the doors soon wont be legal, they need to sort out fitting them with CDL's (LSL have them fitted to their stock so the design for them does exist and can be used by WCR for their coaches).