I'm 45 years old, born and raised in Queens NYC.. I remember being in 7th grade hearing about the ghost shadows. The aura that surrounded them was almost supernatural. It was understood that those Asian gangs were on a different level. Shout out to China Mac and the official content.. this a dope interview, and you can tell homie right here is a thorough cat..
YESSSSS MAC!!! This is a HUGE content we want that you haven’t tapped into much yet. NY Chinese/Asian Organized Crime stories will be a huge market for you. There’s not much on YT about you guys, the Italian Mafia channels are blowing up. We would Love to see & hear the stories from the people who were there 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🔥🔥🔥 EXCELLENT Brother
keep up the fire content Mac, so interesting to hear these war stories from the OGs. I'm glad OGs like Kenny were able to walk away from that life and live a simple and happy lifestyle.
What an amazing interview Mac, so happy I was able to see it, ....they need to make a movie about this guy's life and let him play the elder in the tong🙏
Good job in directing Kenny to explain things further since we're not from his or your world. It cracked me up when he would say "you know about this!" and you'd tell him that we don't. Okay, Mac. I was missing Mac Eats but MacTalks gets better with each episode. I rock with your new venture now.
by far the best and most meaningful guest on the podcast. you will never see a son of a former rival gang leader interviewing a former member from his own gang but a different generation. this is special. not to mention these personal accounts from old school chinese gangsters are unheard of.
NYC organized crime is a major part of our culture and history here in NY. The fact that many former gang members/ mobsters are documenting this part out our city’s history is amazing whether it be the Italians,Chinese,Dominicans, Puerto Ricans etc…. As a NYer who grew up in the 80’s and 90’s I’m absolutely hooked on many of these channels.
Dude, Kenny's energy got higher and higher throughout the interview. The last question about Mike was hilarious!! Awesome story telling as always, but you should have talked about the Italian mafia sit down! Much love OG Kenny.
Crazy how it's considered a cross over when in reality, this is Macs actual gang. Lol. Wish he'd do more if these instead of the rappers & youtubers stuff.
There are differences between Triads,tongs and street gangs in Chinese society. Ghost shadows are street gangs with ties to triads and tongs but are not one themselves.
It's so very interesting and compelling to see the two stories... Kenny joined the Ghosts Shadows because he loved his dad so much. China Mac joined the Ghost Shadows because he hated his dad so much.
Thank you for doing this interview to give us a glimpse of what life is like for ex-gang members. Kenny is right in that he realized that he couldn't do what he was doing forever especially when he gets out of jail. I'm glad he turned his life around. Priorities change over time and as much as there was bonding and a sense of belonging in gangs, it's not sustainable if you constantly get arrested and be put in jail. I appreciate hearing these stories and Kenny is a great story teller.
His story is similar to mine , but the differences is that my dad was associated with gang on his early life then later he went into construction businesses for us , for family , so that we all can enjoy peaceful life. Born in Malaysia , as a typical Chinese/Thai boy , i were always treated as outcast in schools and neighborhood , peoples always make fun of me for what i am , and they would try to bully me and my lil brother , but my dad always told me to never back down from fight , and never bully others or my lil brother, he taught me what's right and wrong. My household was..... just like any typical gang-related family , always had bunch of tattoed uncles hanging out at my house , fancy cars with dark tinted, and my mom would serve them drinks and foods for the day. My dad went outside of country for constructions work when i turned 8 , and for many years , he would call us and send money home every now and then to make sure everything is ok. There's one time i had a problem at school when i was 15 , the boy extorted me in school and they said they would beat the shit outta me if i don't pay... but i ignored them , and later they followed me home , they shouted at the gate, my mom was at the kitchen at the time , my brother greeted them and called me , said some peoples outside calling for me , I came out and talked to them , immediately got dragged into car and left... last thing i told my brother was , call dad and uncles. So later they took me to a bar , got beaten up pretty bad , said i being disrespectful to them and their gang for the reason... turned out like i was a initiative breakthru for the new kids to join a gang. They told me to make a call to bring them the money , but later my step-uncles came , they sit down for a discussions , and they took me home. the next day, my dad arrives early in the morning , he walks into my room and check on me , i was already awake but I still lying on bed. My dad brought me to lunch at restaurant , and 2 of my step-uncles joined us later... they make fun of me for how I lost the fight cause i never lost any fight during my childhood , and later dad told me they would ambush the kid and their members who bullied me after we done with lunch , and i asked how , they kept silent and smile, said you'll know soon. Then , we left the restaurant and went to a house , theres full of different cars , and we took 2 suv and drove to the bar that i was took into on the other night , it was 3pm.... 4 of us, 2 SUV, 2 persons in each , they parked their car facing the bar , while my dad parked 10 metres away from the scene, watching... and last thing my dad told me before the actions is... boy , never let anyone walks over your head and disrespect you.... and the next thing I saw, my step-uncle slam his car into the bar repeatedly until the car break down , and they walks out from their car , get into our car and we left.
Kenny as much as I hate the gangs of Chinatown I appreciate your story. It is touching at the end that you are a changed man and don’t want to relive the past. I highly appreciate that.
exactly, all these young ones thinking how great these Chinese gangs were🙄 these guys didn't protect Chinatown, they were very much the ones terrorizing it
For those that are wondering why these chinese gangsters have weird street names; its directly translated from chinese so it will sound weird (example: apple head, etc)
Kenny needs a movie. . . Very little is known of the Chinese street gangs outside of the time and place, but this shit was history of American, of New York.
I have nothing but respect for all these OG’s from whichever set they rep. But man, BTK, Born To Kill.. what a dope ass name for a clique! They got it from the movie Full Metal Jacket a movie about the war in Vietnam. Man, salute to all these gangs from those days. Aiyo Mac, do an interview with Cambodian Peter!
I was always fascinated with gangs. I never joined any or associated with any. There was this girl back in middle school. She dated this gangster and apparently he got stabbed. She ended up having a kid with him and divorced later on. That's the closest I've ever heard about gangs. It's just this underworld that privilege people like me never saw. I hope the gang members found peace in life and no longer associate with gang life. Thanks for sharing your story.
@@FreshmenBoltsu sure? I’m thinking you’re confusing yourself mate. Cambodia, Laos , Vietnam are in Southeast Asia not east. East Asia are china, Taiwan , Japan, Korea etc. You could thanks me for the free education today buddy
I'm 45 years old, born and raised in Queens NYC.. I remember being in 7th grade hearing about the ghost shadows. The aura that surrounded them was almost supernatural. It was understood that those Asian gangs were on a different level. Shout out to China Mac and the official content.. this a dope interview, and you can tell homie right here is a thorough cat..
That’s crazy knowing that there name held just as much weight out East. I’m from San Francisco and knew about them as a kid.
I’m the same age also from Queens (Flushing/College Pt) and I also remember the same about the Asian gangs back then.
@@samoanpride9247 why would it hold weight in San Fran but not actually where their from? lol
@@88ntil I thought they started in sf lol.
@@88ntil a lotta Asians out in San Fran bro
YESSSSS MAC!!! This is a HUGE content we want that you haven’t tapped into much yet. NY Chinese/Asian Organized Crime stories will be a huge market for you. There’s not much on YT about you guys, the Italian Mafia channels are blowing up. We would Love to see & hear the stories from the people who were there 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🔥🔥🔥 EXCELLENT Brother
@@VHARDJO good looks bro I was looking for more content
I have always wondered why he doesn't interview Chinese/Asian gangs.
Kenny, thank you for sharing your story on Mac's platform. Def, a deep dive into the Chinatown gangs back in the day. There's so much history!
keep up the fire content Mac, so interesting to hear these war stories from the OGs. I'm glad OGs like Kenny were able to walk away from that life and live a simple and happy lifestyle.
Wow!! THIS is what I’m talking about!! Great interview! At 54yrs old, I remember those days very well. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for putting up the entire interview Mac
Amazing interview, we need more MAC!
What an amazing interview Mac, so happy I was able to see it, ....they need to make a movie about this guy's life and let him play the elder in the tong🙏
Good job in directing Kenny to explain things further since we're not from his or your world. It cracked me up when he would say "you know about this!" and you'd tell him that we don't. Okay, Mac. I was missing Mac Eats but MacTalks gets better with each episode. I rock with your new venture now.
Dope interview. Love the tripleOG classic stories
China Mac keep ‘‘em coming. You been on a heater lately.
Hands my favorite Mac talk so far
Best interview Mac ever did.
sheeeeesh! thank you for this folks!
great vid, really interesting to see a first hand experience with gang life in chinatown thanks mac and kenny
Amazing interview 🔥👍💯 Much Respect Great Stories
by far the best and most meaningful guest on the podcast. you will never see a son of a former rival gang leader interviewing a former member from his own gang but a different generation. this is special. not to mention these personal accounts from old school chinese gangsters are unheard of.
NYC organized crime is a major part of our culture and history here in NY. The fact that many former gang members/ mobsters are documenting this part out our city’s history is amazing whether it be the Italians,Chinese,Dominicans, Puerto Ricans etc…. As a NYer who grew up in the 80’s and 90’s I’m absolutely hooked on many of these channels.
@@yankees29 same. its a very major untold part of history. and i just enjoy the new york stories since its so different from the west coast
These two are from the same gang
They're both GS
This by far is one of the best interviews I’ve seen. 👍 Kenny keeps it real!
🙏💯 This is Epic! Thank You China Mac and Kenny!
Salue to Mac... the journalism skills is getting better and better
Keep doing this Mac, much love！❤️
🔥🔥🔥 great interview, keep the chinese gang content coming
That was fiya Mac, Kenny knows how to tell it. Now we need a Mike interview!🔥🙏
Great interview . this sounds like its straight out from a movie
Mac said the hell with the edit. Uncut raw
This is by far your best interview, beautiful thing 7-Up game from your big homie
I really like seeing this from Mac I appreciate learning, and seeing how people do things differently it’s very interesting 🤔
Yooo. More of this. Best thing I’ve seen Mac do
Dude, Kenny's energy got higher and higher throughout the interview. The last question about Mike was hilarious!! Awesome story telling as always, but you should have talked about the Italian mafia sit down! Much love OG Kenny.
that was the craziest gang story ive heard. and i believe it 100 percent.
Salute Kenny and Mac, been waiting for this crossover 🙏💯
you know this is deep as CCP
Crazy how it's considered a cross over when in reality, this is Macs actual gang. Lol. Wish he'd do more if these instead of the rappers & youtubers stuff.
Fantastic interview!
Keep these coming Mac
Great story!!!! Its interesting getting a small look into asians gangs bc its very rare, keep up the great work mac
Not as super rare as you think, a lot of Asian gangsters are lowkey
@@Biscuitolivia3561 Thats why its rare, theyre history isnt out here like how the crips, damu’s & ese’s is
@No name super low key. It's almost impossible too find something about the triads online
no its not...ttype in triads and its a million articles on its groups,rituals and crime.
Great interview!!👍
I really enjoyed this 🫶🏽💪🏽
Shout out mac from the UK 🇬🇧
I've been waiting for something like this from china mac for 75 years.
😂😂😂
Buddha monks in ya trunk
on god & heaven. china mac can open the lane for the asian community & I’m here for it. to me they have some of the richest history 💪🏾
lol
Mac has open the 7th sage gates 😂
Mac should do more old school triad members
Mac does whatever he wants
these arent triad members lol
He’s an double OG ex ghost shadow.
There are differences between Triads,tongs and street gangs in Chinese society. Ghost shadows are street gangs with ties to triads and tongs but are not one themselves.
@@CHINITOMAFIOSO why u getting pressed about me recommending something 🤣
The was great ! Salute ! Do more of these interviews/ the Asian gang stories are never told like this
Incredible story, I could have listened for two more hrs 🙏🏾
Love hearing Kenny talk
Really enjoyed this
Incredible interview. This dude’s storytelling is on another level as is his voice. RIP to his pops.
Your best work yet
This was his best interview
It's so very interesting and compelling to see the two stories...
Kenny joined the Ghosts Shadows because he loved his dad so much.
China Mac joined the Ghost Shadows because he hated his dad so much.
Damn good interview
🪖718SALUTE🪖
Yes sir fire been waiting for this long video no cap
Respect Bros , God bless you guys.
Good interview
Thank you for doing this interview to give us a glimpse of what life is like for ex-gang members. Kenny is right in that he realized that he couldn't do what he was doing forever especially when he gets out of jail. I'm glad he turned his life around. Priorities change over time and as much as there was bonding and a sense of belonging in gangs, it's not sustainable if you constantly get arrested and be put in jail. I appreciate hearing these stories and Kenny is a great story teller.
Man I've been waiting for this since part 1. Appreciate it brother
Very interesting interview
Nice job guys!
Asian kids need more of the OGs to come out and do these interviews. Thanks Mac for the platform
This should be a movie
MAC REALLY NEEDS TO DO MORE OLD SCHOOL TRIAD MEMBER OR GANG MEMBER STORIES. REAL TALK.
More of this too 🎉
Hi , Mac , love your work . We need og from Canada (Toronto , Vancouver , Montreal) We know You can do it.
Agreed
He can't cross the border though
respect man!
The only good interesting interviews Mac’s done. Need more interviews with big homies instead of trolls
His story is similar to mine , but the differences is that my dad was associated with gang on his early life then later he went into construction businesses for us , for family , so that we all can enjoy peaceful life. Born in Malaysia , as a typical Chinese/Thai boy , i were always treated as outcast in schools and neighborhood , peoples always make fun of me for what i am , and they would try to bully me and my lil brother , but my dad always told me to never back down from fight , and never bully others or my lil brother, he taught me what's right and wrong. My household was..... just like any typical gang-related family , always had bunch of tattoed uncles hanging out at my house , fancy cars with dark tinted, and my mom would serve them drinks and foods for the day. My dad went outside of country for constructions work when i turned 8 , and for many years , he would call us and send money home every now and then to make sure everything is ok. There's one time i had a problem at school when i was 15 , the boy extorted me in school and they said they would beat the shit outta me if i don't pay... but i ignored them , and later they followed me home , they shouted at the gate, my mom was at the kitchen at the time , my brother greeted them and called me , said some peoples outside calling for me , I came out and talked to them , immediately got dragged into car and left... last thing i told my brother was , call dad and uncles. So later they took me to a bar , got beaten up pretty bad , said i being disrespectful to them and their gang for the reason... turned out like i was a initiative breakthru for the new kids to join a gang. They told me to make a call to bring them the money , but later my step-uncles came , they sit down for a discussions , and they took me home. the next day, my dad arrives early in the morning , he walks into my room and check on me , i was already awake but I still lying on bed. My dad brought me to lunch at restaurant , and 2 of my step-uncles joined us later... they make fun of me for how I lost the fight cause i never lost any fight during my childhood , and later dad told me they would ambush the kid and their members who bullied me after we done with lunch , and i asked how , they kept silent and smile, said you'll know soon. Then , we left the restaurant and went to a house , theres full of different cars , and we took 2 suv and drove to the bar that i was took into on the other night , it was 3pm.... 4 of us, 2 SUV, 2 persons in each , they parked their car facing the bar , while my dad parked 10 metres away from the scene, watching... and last thing my dad told me before the actions is... boy , never let anyone walks over your head and disrespect you.... and the next thing I saw, my step-uncle slam his car into the bar repeatedly until the car break down , and they walks out from their car , get into our car and we left.
This is the most raw interview I've seen about Chinese gangs
MAC is keeping it (REAL);
with showing us about these
ASIAN gangsters !!
Kenny as much as I hate the gangs of Chinatown I appreciate your story. It is touching at the end that you are a changed man and don’t want to relive the past. I highly appreciate that.
exactly, all these young ones thinking how great these Chinese gangs were🙄 these guys didn't protect Chinatown, they were very much the ones terrorizing it
Good shit!
Man much respect to Kenny. Definately a stand-up guy and a great storyteller
So much history info in this, I live in OC cali near Chinatown. This life is real but kept so quite.
add time stamps mac 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Please do a interview of BTK ex members if possible!! It would be a great interview as well…
Fk BTK...ain't no way in hell Mac interviewing 1 of them pos
In the end, we’re all Chinese from all ends of the earth fighting each other
This shit interesting af
Missed you China Mac 👵🏽☝🏾✨☀️✨
Kenny is such a legend💪
Damn, he met Kenny Wong AND Johnnie Chang within a month of me discovering them both and me contemplating whether they’d meet China Mac or not lol
Kenny is a survivor! The fujiao crew and microwave incident in the slammer was hilarious.
Fuzhou(fuchou)
if you listen closely enough you can hear his brooklin accent mixed with chinese its cool as fuck
Noticed that too
Man, China Mac is the man. I had no idea he was doing interviews.
For those that are wondering why these chinese gangsters have weird street names; its directly translated from chinese so it will sound weird (example: apple head, etc)
Theu don't sound weird at all. Italians gangsters have the same kind of names.
its hilarious in Canto or Mandarin has well, imagine having everyone call you "Congtou"
@@meltednostrilsbornwithoutn781 William “Apple head” Galloway is a good example.😂
@@dsong2006 no its not. Because its not literal. The language is incredibly fluid unlike english
you need a backdrop my guy!
THIS A MOVIE!
Kenny needs a movie. . . Very little is known of the Chinese street gangs outside of the time and place, but this shit was history of American, of New York.
I have nothing but respect for all these OG’s from whichever set they rep. But man, BTK, Born To Kill.. what a dope ass name for a clique! They got it from the movie Full Metal Jacket a movie about the war in Vietnam. Man, salute to all these gangs from those days. Aiyo Mac, do an interview with Cambodian Peter!
“The Canal Boys”
@@yankees29 How about Ernie's Boys.
The sound is bad in headphones sounds like Eco. And I see you got a good mic. So I think u need to isolete the room.
more please
Just a feedback, the audio for this one is a bit low. Great content nonetheless!
Can't hear this for shit and he's only in one headphone
Mac I know you know you’re the plug for the ny Chinatown gangster movie. Make it happen
check out "Iron Fist" series.
That was real shit at the end.. I dont wanna hurt nobody no more and I don't want nobody to hurt me.
Awsome
I was always fascinated with gangs. I never joined any or associated with any. There was this girl back in middle school. She dated this gangster and apparently he got stabbed. She ended up having a kid with him and divorced later on. That's the closest I've ever heard about gangs. It's just this underworld that privilege people like me never saw. I hope the gang members found peace in life and no longer associate with gang life. Thanks for sharing your story.
Mac has been interviewed so much that he knows how to be a great interviewer. Great great job Dai Lo.
Asian gang especially East Asia gang have the coolest name; ghost shadows, flying dragons, wah ching, bamboo union, 14k..etc
this is kinda romantics of the culture
Sound pretty gay to me
Specifically not EAST Asian, these are Chinese gangs, East Asian gangs are the Cambodians, Laos, Vietnam etc
@@FreshmenBoltsu sure? I’m thinking you’re confusing yourself mate. Cambodia, Laos , Vietnam are in Southeast Asia not east. East Asia are china, Taiwan , Japan, Korea etc. You could thanks me for the free education today buddy
@@checkmate8487 absolutely correct
China Mac behind the cam like Dj VLAD
Great interview. May not make lotta sense to most - but would LOVE to have you interview an OG in CANTO! (can subtitle it for non-canto) #dailo
🔥🔥🔥
Kenny is a legend. Much respect.
Good pod but bruhhh, ad after the first minute?
I have high respect for that man
🔥🔥🔥🔥
Amazing story .. goosebumps
"Michael Moy!"
"heeeyyyy Kenny! 🙋♂"
that had me rollin lol! good shiet Kenny!