Thanks man! Yeah it's sad really.. Artist puts in all the time and work and they get screwed big time ! BUT, They go crazy trying to get you to follow their Spotify even without making any money in the process.
Wow! That's not good at all. How rude of Spotify! I wish I had the money to support bands more! But thanks for the info, Pat! And thank you for sharing this video! 🖤🤘
You are welcome! I understand not having money lol, trust me! But if you want to really support your favorite artists it is the only way to do it. That and sharing their content so that hopefully someone else supports them thanks to you. MP3s and Spotify plays don’t do much, specially for up and coming bands that really need the support!
What's really scary is that bands are willingly doing this and not realizing they are shooting themselves in the foot. They become "Spotify big" and remain broke. And then they go play live and realize they have no impact on the music scene
Muy interesante y sobre todo honesto, es increíble como estas compañías se aprovechan enriqueciéndose cada vez mas a costa del trabajo de los artistas.
De los músicos y de los publicistas.. es todo una rueda que solo beneficia a una de las partes.. El problema es que son todas cómplices al avalar el método!
@@nathaliescorner2380 El problema es quién va a hacer algo al respecto?, nadie... En algunos países hay leyes contra esto bajo el lema de "fraude publicitario" pero aún así es una ley difícil de comprobar y generalmente es una multa o suspensión de cuenta (cosa que a un bot o software no le afecta)
Id say that technique shouldn't be morally wrong since its covid and some people don't have any jobs so making that extra 100 dollars a week can mean they can feed there children or pay rent and bills...you must do anything to support the ones u luv even if it means doing stuff like this
You obviously missed the point of the video completely (or didn't bother watching the whole thing). The problem is NEVER the little guy who is just starting out but it's rigged in favor of the big corporations and labels who can afford to pay thousands of employees to farm phones and will never get penalized for that cause they drive the ad counts up.
This is only the tip of the iceberg! There's more shady crap behind it (and even more i will never even find out!!) That's why i keep telling people to support their favorite artists first hand!
Thanks Bill!! I did my research and found out that most people don’t know about this or even thought it could be possible... bands are getting dragged through the mud too
Damn i really didnt know this,its crazy how this happens so much and the bands that are just starting out and they have to deal with this type of stuff
Yes! I've already covered that on a different video. But even though they work sort of the same they are completely different. Btw RUclips (or Spotify for that matter) don't really want you to "buy premium" They make less than 5% of their money from that. They both want the ads' money. The strategy with premium is that you would watch for longer periods if you don't have breaks and they charge the person to make up for the money the ads would make. The HUGE difference to me is the fact that on RUclips you can create a community and actually interact with subscribers and members. It gives you a chance to show the person behind the music and it is so much more than a song or a track were as Spotify is merely a music platform.
That's awesome! He who thinks is worth double... It's crazy how sometimes we are manipulated into thinking we are supporting and helping our favorite bands (or even our own) when we really are not having any impact on them. It's funny but I told people this before, ONE $2,99 member is worth 600 views or 700 Spotify plays! One $5 EP sale is worth about 1000 RUclips views and 1200 Spotify plays! And bands don't want to invest on EPs but have no problem paying for Spotify Advertisement!
🤣🤣 my job here is done! To be honest the problem is not entirely Spotify. It’s the fact that people think they are supporting artists this way when they are obviously not. But its not the people’s fault. It is the people in the business and the musicians’ job to let listeners know what’s really is going on...
Thanks Man! Yeah that’s the issue. They sure don’t want people to know this but it’s out there... just hope more people learn about this behavior and stop it.
Thanks man!! Sometimes it’s hard cause you know you are going against the “popular” opinion but someone’s got to wave the musicians flag and tell people what really is going on!
@@Ellifmusic just so we are clear... i'm completely against this... but to answer your question, no. Each device can only have one IP and thus, only one VPN
Buen video! Aunque no me hace sentido la parte de que a Spotify no le interesa que se estén realizando reproducciones fraudulentas para ganar streams, ya que Spotify elimina los albumes o banea a los artistas que sean descubiertos haciendo eso, hay robots que se dedican a identificar estos comportamientos como por ejemplo la reproducción en bucle de ciertas canciones por muchas cuentas al mismo tiempo. Supongo que los grandes de la industria tambien hacen eso, pero obviamente Spotify no hará nada porque los contratos van más allá de los streams y tampoco les conviene eliminarlos de su biblioteca.
I've never really used it. I try to listen to CDs as much as posible but yeah, it's fucked up and people are going crazy trying to get ranked higher.. I don't know, they are obsessed by it!
@@lexizloba5512 Nice! Yeah I'll use RUclips if i need to listen to something quick, specially being an engineer, sometimes I need to check out a song I don't like just to reference it.. I also have a ton of music on iTunes! But yeah, nothing like CDs (or vinyl, of course)
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Wow man I didn’t know about this and the truth is actually very shocking that Spotify doesn’t help the artist at all 🤯🤯🤯
Btw great vid 🤘🤘🔥🔥
Thanks man! Yeah it's sad really.. Artist puts in all the time and work and they get screwed big time ! BUT, They go crazy trying to get you to follow their Spotify even without making any money in the process.
Thank you someone actually telling the truth about Spotify! and not bashing the Artist like some of these Fake A$$ RUclipsrs on Here. Good Video!!
Thanks man! Glad you enjoyed it! 🤘🏻🤘🏻
Wow! That's not good at all. How rude of Spotify! I wish I had the money to support bands more! But thanks for the info, Pat! And thank you for sharing this video! 🖤🤘
You are welcome! I understand not having money lol, trust me! But if you want to really support your favorite artists it is the only way to do it. That and sharing their content so that hopefully someone else supports them thanks to you. MP3s and Spotify plays don’t do much, specially for up and coming bands that really need the support!
Thanks for keeping it real Pat. I guess integrity is becoming scarce.
Thanks for commenting brother... yeah i try... most people don’t want to hear it though 😅
Always wondered where Spotify got their money. I thought it was from subscriptions...
Hell no! It’s all the ads!
They all use ads. Same with artists.
Good conversation man for sure. Scary stuff tbh.
What's really scary is that bands are willingly doing this and not realizing they are shooting themselves in the foot. They become "Spotify big" and remain broke. And then they go play live and realize they have no impact on the music scene
@@PatPosse No doubt man I agree :(
@@jefffehr2468 Sucks... It'll be hard to revert this... it'll take time and commitment by everyone..
@@PatPosse That’s super true dude!!
@@jefffehr2468 Yes! but are we all prepared to do it?
Muy interesante y sobre todo honesto, es increíble como estas compañías se aprovechan enriqueciéndose cada vez mas a costa del trabajo de los artistas.
De los músicos y de los publicistas.. es todo una rueda que solo beneficia a una de las partes.. El problema es que son todas cómplices al avalar el método!
@@PatPosse exacto es el método
@@nathaliescorner2380 El problema es quién va a hacer algo al respecto?, nadie... En algunos países hay leyes contra esto bajo el lema de "fraude publicitario" pero aún así es una ley difícil de comprobar y generalmente es una multa o suspensión de cuenta (cosa que a un bot o software no le afecta)
Great video everyone need to see this video
Ur doin great
Like a mannnnn....
Thanks man! Share it with whomever you think needs to watch it! Glad to help and inform you all
That's like any multilevel company or like any other app...all they care is their income 🤷🏼♀️
100% Sucks doesn't it?
Id say that technique shouldn't be morally wrong since its covid and some people don't have any jobs so making that extra 100 dollars a week can mean they can feed there children or pay rent and bills...you must do anything to support the ones u luv even if it means doing stuff like this
You obviously missed the point of the video completely (or didn't bother watching the whole thing). The problem is NEVER the little guy who is just starting out but it's rigged in favor of the big corporations and labels who can afford to pay thousands of employees to farm phones and will never get penalized for that cause they drive the ad counts up.
@@PatPosse i watched the whole video...and it shouldn't be a big deal anyways😂😂
@@itzwilza7189 it's not.
There was something fishy about Spotify, yet I couldn't figure it out. Thanks for all the info!
This is only the tip of the iceberg! There's more shady crap behind it (and even more i will never even find out!!) That's why i keep telling people to support their favorite artists first hand!
I'm just going to ask, where do you find these farmers online? like is there a website or a community where an artist can find them?
🤦🏻♂️. No idea.
There's a lot online, I have my own phone farm I've been working on. It's really cheap and easy to do.
Always learn something from you. Great show 💪💪🤘
Thanks Bill!! I did my research and found out that most people don’t know about this or even thought it could be possible... bands are getting dragged through the mud too
Thank you for informating me!
My pleasure. Thanks for watching and commenting!
This just the new way of sending employees to buy albums from stores to increase sales
🤦🏻♂️ never ceases to amaze me
Damn i really didnt know this,its crazy how this happens so much and the bands that are just starting out and they have to deal with this type of stuff
Yeah it sucks. Damned to fail. Or at least you have a smaller chance to make it. That’s why I decided to avoid Spotify altogether
Thanks for the information Pat, I didn't know anything abaut that. I will never use Spotify again 😂😂😂
Hahaha 🤣. Try to support your favorite bands directly! Even if you do little they will get a LOT more out of that!
Thanks 🤘🤘
You are welcome!
well yeah youtubes the same way, they also pay adds during a session and they want you to buy premium.
Yes! I've already covered that on a different video. But even though they work sort of the same they are completely different. Btw RUclips (or Spotify for that matter) don't really want you to "buy premium" They make less than 5% of their money from that. They both want the ads' money. The strategy with premium is that you would watch for longer periods if you don't have breaks and they charge the person to make up for the money the ads would make. The HUGE difference to me is the fact that on RUclips you can create a community and actually interact with subscribers and members. It gives you a chance to show the person behind the music and it is so much more than a song or a track were as Spotify is merely a music platform.
This was really interesting! Really got me thinking.....
That's awesome! He who thinks is worth double... It's crazy how sometimes we are manipulated into thinking we are supporting and helping our favorite bands (or even our own) when we really are not having any impact on them. It's funny but I told people this before, ONE $2,99 member is worth 600 views or 700 Spotify plays! One $5 EP sale is worth about 1000 RUclips views and 1200 Spotify plays! And bands don't want to invest on EPs but have no problem paying for Spotify Advertisement!
@@PatPosse very true it’s kinda sad how this is all becoming
@@robbywobby987 It's super sad! and frustrating.. it's not about the music or art anymore..
Pat is a BADASS!!!!
😂😂 Pat trying to make a difference with 14 views ! lol. Seriously though, someone is gotta have to talk about this!
I don't think I'll use Spotify again. Great video!! 👍
🤣🤣 my job here is done! To be honest the problem is not entirely Spotify. It’s the fact that people think they are supporting artists this way when they are obviously not. But its not the people’s fault. It is the people in the business and the musicians’ job to let listeners know what’s really is going on...
Nice video bro i didnt know about that.
Thanks Man! Yeah that’s the issue. They sure don’t want people to know this but it’s out there... just hope more people learn about this behavior and stop it.
What’s the name of the software?
No clue
Real talk, i love it!
Thanks man!! Sometimes it’s hard cause you know you are going against the “popular” opinion but someone’s got to wave the musicians flag and tell people what really is going on!
@@PatPosse hey the best is the truth
@@stefanwolf599 Honesty is the best policy my brother!
@@PatPosse Amen
🤘🏻🤘🏻
FUCK SPOTIFY! GREAT VIDEO BOSS! VERY INFORMATIVE!
Indeed! Thanks Man! Just got this message 🤷🏻♂️. Sorry about the delay!
It is unethical to stream using bots. PERIOD!
Agreed.
Interesting Video!
Thanks man!! Had you ever heard of this before?
But you don’t need to have differents ip address with each phone ??
A VPN will take care of that easily.
@@PatPossecan you have different vpns on the same computer streaming on different windows ?
@@Ellifmusic just so we are clear... i'm completely against this... but to answer your question, no. Each device can only have one IP and thus, only one VPN
ong Pat, you're gonna have to explain this to me later, LOL 🥰🥰
Will do Sandi! Thanks for your continued support!!
The sad truth about Spotify
Sad but True. And it sucks... For both the Advertisers and musicians! It's a great platform but it's rigged..
Buen video! Aunque no me hace sentido la parte de que a Spotify no le interesa que se estén realizando reproducciones fraudulentas para ganar streams, ya que Spotify elimina los albumes o banea a los artistas que sean descubiertos haciendo eso, hay robots que se dedican a identificar estos comportamientos como por ejemplo la reproducción en bucle de ciertas canciones por muchas cuentas al mismo tiempo.
Supongo que los grandes de la industria tambien hacen eso, pero obviamente Spotify no hará nada porque los contratos van más allá de los streams y tampoco les conviene eliminarlos de su biblioteca.
Claro en realidad me refería a las bandas y compañías grandes que lo hacen ya que son las que atraen mayor tráfico a la app
Good 👍
Thanks!!
Interesting. Really shady stuff.
I know right?? Crazy shit. And or course, musicians are hurt the most
I never liked it anyways, thanks for the info!
I've never really used it. I try to listen to CDs as much as posible but yeah, it's fucked up and people are going crazy trying to get ranked higher.. I don't know, they are obsessed by it!
@@PatPosse same I have so many CD’s or I use youtube
@@lexizloba5512 Nice! Yeah I'll use RUclips if i need to listen to something quick, specially being an engineer, sometimes I need to check out a song I don't like just to reference it.. I also have a ton of music on iTunes! But yeah, nothing like CDs (or vinyl, of course)
I have 200 song i play it every day = 200 streams
That's right...
@@PatPosse he pay me sir ?? You try this method ?
@@AnisMoulay2001 Like I said on the video, I am not on Spotify. but 200 plays depending where you are you would get about 60 cents per day or less
Compañías siendo compañías 🤷🏻♂️
Sí! Insisto.. el problema no son tanto ellos si no los que creen que apoyan a las bandas así y los que pagan para subir sus reproducciones !!