Eurovision 2024 Viewer Favorites! #1 - Joost Klein - Europapa
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Coming in at #1 of Eurovision 2024 Viewer Favorites Week! - Joost Klein - Europapa
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His parents passed away when he was really young. The song is dedicated to them. The incident that led to disqualifying him, was because he tends to be very emotional after his performance, and he asked not to be photographed right after. Some reporter/photographer did not respect his wish, and apparently Joost made some kind of threatening gesture. But he did not physically harm her.
He didn't sing in English you know. He didn't say his passport is slovenian 😆
In the Netherlands, the song broke the record for the most streamed song in a single day on Spotify within the country,it reached top 5 positions in 10 European countries, and became worldwide the most streamed song of all songs participating in the contest this year, both on Spotify and RUclips.
Joost and Käärijä are releasing a song together soon you guys should totally react to it when it comes out!!!
I think it’s hard for people outside of Europe to understand why this was such a fan favorite, it’s just so purely Eurovision. There’s a lot of references about europe in the lyrics too. It was 100% written for the Eurovision. I do think he would have won if it wasn’t for the disqualification.
he was disqualified hours before the final it had nothing to do with the song or performance. only alleged his behaviour backstage.
The facts are way too complicated. Politics, war in Gaza, Israel, the social media age of journalism, no respect for people’s privacy, arrogance, bad management, it goes on and on. Investigations are underway. EBU will have to introduce changes in competition or countries will withdraw.
This song has a lot of layers, is first of all a love letter to europe and his parents who passed but also about the problems he faced being an orfant. It‘s about how he was left lonely in germany, seeking for psychological help, came to france and all he had was listening to stromae - „papa ou t‘es?“ (father where are you). How europe became his family since his father told him there are no more borders in europe. And all dressed up as a silly party song…
I think I haven't seen anyone else mention the fact that the big sponsor for Eurovision is an Israeli company, so they really do have a big input into what happens in the contest. Joost and other artists (including Bambie and Nemo) were clearly against israel participating, and that made them a target for the israeli team. They would take pictures and film them when, BY CONTRACT, they were NOT ALLOWED TO. The israeli team would post ig stories mocking them and being disrespectful (calling Bambie satanic, knowingly misgendering Nemo, and mocking Joost's parents' death). The people from the israeli broadcaster told people who to vote for based on the artists having shown support to israel or not, and they would also mock artists while performing, which, again, they could not do because it's on the contract. Breaking any of these rules would have led them to disqualification. So the artists complained to the EBU, and they did nothing. After semifinals 2 (which is where Joost, Nemo and israeli contestant participated) there was a press conference with the acts going through to the final, and when they asked the israeli contestant if she considered her being there was dangerous for the other contestants, one of her team told her she didn't have to answer if she didn't want to, and Joost "changelled" that by saying "why not?"(which was kind of fair since everyone else answered their q's), and this led to her having to answer. Next day, news about the "incident" came out, and they said they were investigating. Mind you, the supposed incident happened right after Joost's semifinal performance and the press conference, so all the timings are just suspicious. We don't even know the details of what happened, but AVROTROS said he didn't touch her. Supposedly, he raised his hand to move the camera away after having asked her multiple times to stop filming him because there was an agreement that he wouldn't be filmed after the performance because it was very emotional for him, and the person felt threatened by that. So, we're still very much in the dark about it. But the EBU clearly fckd up because they did nothing regarding the complaints about the israeli delegation, but they supposedly led a thorough investigation on the incident with Joost resulting in his disqualification. Joost was definitely the public's favourite, so I think he would have won (and I'm not saying Nemo isn't the rightful winner, but it was more about Europapa being a banger, yes, but also everyone already loving Joost). So yeah, that's what happened.
Let's be real this time. It wasn't a winning song. It could've won the televote but jury vote, never would it got enough points to win the contest
The Dance Break is a specific genre of Dutch Hard-core Techno called Gabber. It is also a huge sub culture.
The dance with leg kicks and stomping arms is called 'gabber', a subset of house/edm. Very popular in the nineties and almost Dutch tradition.
Source: BBC News - "The Dutch artist Joost Klein has been disqualified from the Eurovision Song Contest after a backstage incident. An allegation of intimidation was made to Swedish police by a female member of the production crew.
What was so major for me hearing this song and seeing the musicvidwo for the first time was that it made me feel like a european. For the first time in my life actually. might be hard for people outside of europe to see, but on this continent we dont really identify as europeans, we just identify with our own nations mostly. Who are just as bloody diverse as the eurovision entries, we are lutheran catholic ortodox muslim and atheists squeezed together on a relatively small landmass and for millennia weve been at war with one another, and still are…
About your discussion, the swedish song writer Thomas G:son has written 33 entries for the swedish qualifier
As to "how involved are the artists", this depends on the artist and the broadcaster. Some songs are completely written and composed by the artist themselves, other songs are written for someone and then there's also songs that are written for Eurovision. They are basically up for grabs to whoever wants them (and pays enough). In this particular case, Joost wrote the song himself and he had help to compose the music. There were very minor external influences, other than that. An interesting look at how songs can travel over years and borders was this year's song "Liar" by Cyprus. That song was originally in Russia's National final in 2022. However, Russia was excluded from Eurovision. In 2023 it was part of Greece's national selection, but it came second so it did not make the contest. In 2024 the song finally made it to the contest, but by this point 3 countries and 3 singers had used the song.
Can I suggest another Eurovision Week? Turn to the darkside...
THE LEGEND ITSELF ! JOOST IS JUST TOO GOOD FOR THIS WORLD
I think you guys came to some really good conlusions about Eurovision here in your discussion. The versatility that is allowed with the sometimes wildly different artists and performances really makes the show stand out from other musical shows and competitions. It's completely normal and usual for your personal favourite to be an upbeat party song and your runner-up to be a powerful ballad, or whatever other combination available. Both small and big artists, from various different countries can have their shot on the same stage in front of Europe and the whole world, too. The spirit and idea behind Eurovision are wonderful, but there need to be practical changes to the show for it not to become a puppet for political discourse and for it to be more fair (ie. Joost's disqualification under suspicious circumstances, Israel's participation and their sponsorship of the show and harassment of delegations etc.)
Yea this song did massive on streaming afterwards. Joost is a really cool artist and very creative.