It's do-or-die for both Tsunoda and Ricciardo. If Ricciardo is instantly faster than Tsunoda after a hiatus, Tsunoda's career is over. But if Ricciardo can't comprehensively beat Tsunoda by the end of the season, it's hard to see Ricciardo having much of a career left in him either.
I agree on both scenarios. Absolutely Ricciardo has to be beat Tsunoda regardless if he's not been on a F1 grid since last year. And if he beats Tsunoda handily then that could be it for him. Things though are a bit more complicated with Tsunoda from a backing point of view since he's backed by Honda but Honda's quasi RB engine program support will be ending in 2025 so I'm not sure how much that has played a factor to this point in why Tsunoda has continued to stay at AT even though he hasn't done a whole lot to help cement his place in F1.
Tsunoda is sponsored by Honda, so it'll be seriously difficult for them to drop him if they wanted to. Not to mention, he's been massively complimented by the other drivers for how much he's improved this season.
@@odin4227 I don't think he's at risk of being dropped unless Riccy boi does to him what Norris did to Riccy. But it will kill his chances at getting a shot at the main team, effectively stalling his career. He'd basically be in a position Gasly was for years, not good enough for the main team and warming the seat until another promising junior comes. He'd have to look outside of the RB camp to try and find a seat which is very unreliable and unpredictable if you're not a champion or a pay driver.
To be honest, I think it is wise to leave Liam Lawson out of this opportunity. Rushing out of Super Formula doesn't make sense when; it's good practice to participate in a full season rather than 2 halves of a completely different championship, he could still win the super formula championship which is good for his cv, the jetlag and general pain of moving all of his kit and belongings from Japan to Fienza in less than 10 days, he didn't participate in the 3 days of testing at the start of the season which is essential for the feel for the car, because he's joining halfway through the season he is put instantly put under pressure to do what De Vries couldn't do with Daniel Riccardo breathing down his neck. Its the right time for Riccardo, he needs evaluating whilst Lawson needs to finish what he started.
The best marketing move for Redbull is to drop Perez, put Riccardo there, bring Lawson to AT for a couple of seasons and then retire Daniel to put him in the senior team. Daniel a couple of years in RB would be a huge marketing move.
I don't agree with most of the takes in this video. It makes perfect sense to replace Nyck with Daniel for the rest of the year. It makes almost no sense to bring in a rookie mid-season, especially for all of the reasons you stated. It probably makes the LEAST sense to leave Nyck in that seat for the rest of the season, as at least Daniel can be of help for developing the car. I'm sure they would have started the season with Daniel if they could have, but he didn't want that seat. Some time away has given Daniel some perspective and renewed passion, and an opportunity to unlearn some of those mistakes he learned at McLaren. I thought he was making a mistake choosing a reserve driver role, but this seems to have worked out to be a win-win situation for everyone, other than Nyck. This also gives Alpha Tauri a better chance to evaluate Yuki's performance given that the car is so bad. Daniel is much more of a known, veteran quantity than Nyck.
You don't know Perez has probably the best sponsors in F1? Next to Hamilton and Max, from Mexico and american companies he brings in more millions then he is paid by Red Bull.
@@iaintdonknow Redbull can bring At&t back in a heartbeat, Redbull isn't looking for sponsoring money, they want to market their brand which will increase their sales, Daniel's personality is the epitome of Redbull's marketing, he will sell drinks, Checo only sells caps to his Mexican fans.
Great comment. Liam Lawson is doing a fantastic job in SF and if he wins will have a strong argument for a seat next year. DR can both evaluate and develop the AT .. while both himself and Yuki will be evaluated by default. Puts more than subtle pressure on Perez .. but you have to think this was coming after a run of poor results. Then there is the commercial aspect of DR in a seat again ..
@@Michael-Masi-2021That’s pretty incorrect, Daniel Riccardo is a quality driver, he smashed kvyat at red bull, has 8 race wins, smashed both of his teammates at Renault and drove that car to podiums multiple times in 2020 when that car deserved to be getting low points. McLaren had a car with braking that didn’t match his driving style and was just a blip in his career. Moving to AlphaTauri will give him a road to red bull as Perez has been struggling and if he does well at Alpha this year he can probably move to Red Bull to a car he strives in.
The Race has not covered the two big points for Daniel as Nyck's replacement. 1st The experience/feedback Daniel can bring to develop a very underperforming car. 2nd is the added value he brings to Alpha Tauri for its rebranding or possibly even some divestment by Red Bull for next season.
Alpine and McLaren already hinted that Daniel was shockingly bad at giving technical feedback. So i don't think your #1 point is valid. I think it's more to do with Tsunoda and his wishes to go to Red Bull, Perez performing bad, their hesitation and needing a known driver to validate it. Nick was not a good comparison, the car is bad and they need something to confirm their choice. Given Nick has 0 points, they expect the car to not further improve and thus not scoring point for the remainder of the season, they changed something. In this case Nick out and a known driver in. That way they have more data when contracts are prepared (somewhere in september).
@@SPeeSimon are we classing technical ability and feedback in same class as car behaviour feedback and ability?? because i could’ve sworn i read something a while ago that stated that Adrian Newey said that he had very good set up feedback. maybe i’ve misread it, but it’s does line up with the fact that during his time at Red Bull they always had the best chassis but an absolutely awful engine. now i know Adrian is a fucking genius, but at the end of the day he’s not the one out on track driving the car. so surely some of the success in that department is down to good driver feedback. also, if he lacked any kind of car setup ability and feedback then how did Renault go from semi regular points to being the 3rd fastest car on some weekends the very next season?? maybe i’m getting things confused and car set up feedback and technical feedback are 2 completely different things. was just a thought that came to my head
Personally, I don't see Nyck De Vries being ousted just for his lack of performance on race weekends. It's no secret that the AT04 has been struggling on track and the recent upgrade package in Silverstone seems to be ineffective at the very least. Ricciardo being picked up for the rest of the season could be Alpha Tauris way of trying to get back on track with car development as much as it is an attempt to improve the teams points. Having an experienced driver that knows what it feels like to drive a winning car and the knowledge of how to give that feedback back to the engineers might be Alpha Tauris way of saving the rest of their season/preventing them from falling to far behind next season. This would also explain why Ricciardo was picked over another younger, rookie driver to take the spot.
Agreed 100%. Experience with Red Bull setup is a key as we have seen with both DeVries and Ricciardo. Neither driver did well with the competitor’s car.
Agreed, this decision seems like it has more to do with higher level tactical considerations than purely his performance. Sure he's being outperformed, but he's not performing so terribly he'd be sacked solely based on that.
As soon as I heard the news, I immediately thought about the potential. It’s clear that after the tyre test in Silverstone (in which Daniel did times capable of the front row of the grid), they’ve put him in the Alphatauri to judge him against Tsunoda. This is because they’re getting rid of Perez and aren’t sure which of Tsunoda or Ricciardo should take the seat. That’s the only real reason I see for this happening tbh
Not sure why people keep talking about a tire test done with a completely different car. The Alfa tauri is nowhere near the level of even the rb18 much less the RB19. It’s great the Dani can drive the rb19 quickly…I’m sure a lot of drivers could drive that rb 19 really quick.
@@cdevlin574 The tire test is the reason Red Bull replaced Nyck with Daniel. Marko confirmed that it was the tire test that convinced them. But you are right, times in the red bull mean nothing if he’s in an Alphatauri, which is why I made the connection that it’s for them to see which of Tsunoda or Ricciardo are better suited to replace Perez. Also for the tire test, Daniel in similar conditions to Saturday consistently out in Laps capable of a front row start whereas Perez didn’t even escape Q1 again.
@@GuacJuan Well, RB main objective is give Max the chance to win many titles with a teammate that helps instead of challenge him... I think they won't risk that with Daniel or any other driver, the want a Hamilton-Bottas like line up
@MomPickMeUpImScared-st4wi Well I kind of agree with you, but after Brazil 22, Bahrein 23, Austria 23, all the drama with Max's father, just to name some examples... Do you really believe that, do you really think in your heart that RB want to be successful with any of the two drivers ? Don't think so and neither do anyone...
My main takeaway from this is that he’s already realised he misses f1. So I’m happy for him that he’s got back in. Earlier this year he seemed like a man who needed a whole year away
Naaaaah, he was always eager to get back in F1 as soon as possible. It was clear as soon as he got back in the RB family. Saying he needed time off yada yada was just for image imo
I don’t think that it was a mistake by Red Bull to hire De Vries in the first place: he won the F2 and FE Championships and cannot really be considered a real rookie. Just like for Ricciardo now, the move to Alpha Tauri was either make or break for De Vries and it just didn’t work out. With the way he was underperforming it’s definitely the right decision to replace him.
All these people saying devries is not a rookie cause he drove F2 and Formula E. F1 is so much faster and harder to drive than any thing else. If you’ve never driven an F1 you’re a ROOKIE
@@raceyrache8463He is 28 years old, he basically needed to hit the ground running to earn his spot. He doesn’t have the same level of flexibility a young 20s rookie driver has.
@@raceyrache8463 Even if so, Piastri for example is doing way better, is more consistent and closer to his teammate in terms of pure pace. De Vries didn’t have what it takes for F1, and still, considering that he already won a title outside of F1‘s junior categories, he‘s been massively disappointing all season long.
I think it’s genius to have Daniel and Yuki to battle for a potential Red Bull seat. It gives Red Bull more options and it will help alphatauri score some more points.
@@stevejh69 I think Yuki has more than proven himself for a Red Bull seat. He’s far more consistent than last year and he’s been able to put the slowest car on the grid more than almost drivers could. I think he’s the most responsible driver that Red Bull has. He’s the only driver available that won’t fight with max.
@@Henry_Racingmeasuring him against Danny Ric is the best way to be sure, he has been in the SIM with red bull for months now so they know what he can do compared to checo (kinda as it's only SIM).
Riccardo's last chance is happening at the same time as Perez's last chance. I hope Riccardo is able to prove himself at alphatauri, but I also hope Perez gets out of his slump. What a great season.
It's been sad watching Checo have the worst year of his career, while behind the wheel of one of the best cars ever fielded. I hope he snaps out of this funk. I can't wait to see Daniel drive around the McClaren in Alpha. 😂
I think there's also another factor. Alpha Tauri said they are going to stop doing their own thing and copy the main RB team (car) as much as the rules allow. This can be even further improved when someone with months of RB19 simulator experience and potential "inside information" comes along to show them how its done when they (maybe?) can't legally go and get all that info. it's all guess work of course since i have no idea how all of this works.
This is a 300IQ move from RB. Not only can they verify if Tsunoda is the next Verstappen but can also send a warning to Perez, to get his act together, all the while gaining an experienced driver at a time the team is in shambles.
I think the real pressure is on Yuki now that there is a proper measuring stick. In proper science, it’s hard to get proper data when there are multiple variables. They know Yuki is better than Nyck. Now they can measure him against a former race champion. With Lawson, that’s two unknowns. But I think Lawson is in one of those seats next year, though. I feel bad for Nyck for not getting a real chance, but I do think this is more about getting a proper evaluation on Yuki. If DeVries was beating Yuki, it could have been the other way around.
they also know that Gasly was wiping the floor with yuki last season, he is mediocre at best are people really forgetting that he was never the first driver on his team except for this season and thats a maybe now..........
@@kabritu. I understand what you mean. But just because Gasly wiped the floor with Yuki the last two years, that doesn't mean Yuki hasn't progressed this year. It's a general rule in sports (more accurately the last year of patience of the powers that be), it's typically the third year that finalizes a person's projection. A lot of current sports stars don't find their groove until their 3rd or even 4th year, but in F1 they're aren't exactly a lot of roster spots. It "appears" that Yuki made progress this season. If Gasly was still on the team, RB would already have a better idea if Yuki has actually stepped up or not. But that's an alternate universe. In this one, we just know that the car sucks and Nyck was consistently no where near Yuki. I'm making up a number, but I feel like the current evaluation on Yuki (this season) is less than 60% accurate.
@@benjaminpita1116 that's the thing its based on nothing right now F1 doesnt need that. If Ricciardo is faster then Yuki right from the start he is done
I disagree with much of your assessments here. Nyck is 28 years old, with a lot more experience than any rookie driver, so they probably took a chance on him with the expectation that even if he started out slow, he would quickly improve and help the team by being a semi-veteran presence. He's had 10 races already and hasn't improved in any meaningful way, so it makes sense to cut their losses and switch to Daniel, who, after spending some time on the sidelines, has had his enthusiasm renewed and is now willing to accept the Alpha Tauri seat. Replacing Nyck with Daniel makes the rest of this lost season meaningful: not only can he help develop and improve the car, which will bode well for next year, but he also serves as a much better barometer for Yuki's performance in what is one of the worst cars in the field. Daniel is much more of a known quantity than Nyck and has much more experience. There is no downside to putting him in that seat. Meanwhile, as Checo continues to languish, depending on how Daniel performs they now have the option to replace Checo with either him or Yuki. They can make that decision much more confidently than if they just continued watching Nyck play pretend F1 driver.
I think you give Ricciardo too much credit. He was ragdolled by Norris in 2 different generations of McLaren. That isn’t just one bad performance in one single car. The αT looks to be a difficult car to adapt to if Yuki can’t get many results and de Vries never showed any improvement but looked good in a Williams first try. Ricciardo on his last outing isn’t better than Perez, who even with his terrible qualys, has only really languished on race race pace in Canada and Miami. And we saw Perez at the beginning of the season. Give him a car he can drive and he’s very close to Verstappen. Ricciardo hasn’t shown that kind of pace in years
@@Legorreta.M.D what are you talking about. Mclaren's last race winner was Ricciardo. You say give Perez a car he's comfortable and he can win. Well give Ricciardo a car he's comfortable with and he won in a midfield car. Perez in a dominant car is worse than Ricciardo was in a midfield car. You're literally comparing Perez's best form with Ricciardo's worst and coming up with some silly opinions. Ricciardo was one of the best drivers in 2020 outperforming Landa, Sainz in a worse car and demolishing Ocon who's beaten or always been on pace with Alonso..
@@Legorreta.M.D "I think you give Ricciardo too much credit. He was ragdolled by Norris in 2 different generations of McLaren." That's my whole point: Ricciardo is no good in a car that doesn't suit him. Neither of those cars suited him. He didn't just fall off a cliff. Red Bull wouldn't have signed him if they thought he had, either. Perez will never match pace with Verstappen over the course of a season because Verstappen likes oversteer and Perez prefers understeer. He's always going to lose pace as the car is further developed because they're doing it for Max, not Checo.
I am a self-confessed Pérez fan, but having him around with a chronic qualifying problem is really out of character for the RB driver program. I understand having bad luck in one or two qualifying sessions, but 5 in a row are very hard to defend. He says he knows what has to be done, so I hope he does it in the next qualy, because Marko has laid the proverbial horse head in his bed.
Perez is lucky there is no replacement for him, Yuki isn't convincing and it's too much risk to put Daniel in there. Realistically De Vries isn't the problem, the AT is horrid and they won't score points either way, the problem is that Perez is not performing and there is no one to replace him, so that's why Daniel is at AT now and prepare him for RB in '24.
@@Zero-Wolf Making mistakes isn't bad luck, that's just bad. And he is better than who? He is clearly the worst of the top drivers, below Sainz, Leclerc, Russel, Hamilton and Verstappen. Red Bull not having a replacement drivers for the RB is entirely luck, and it's bad luck for De Vries to lose his seat over it.
Checo performed well in the races after his bad qualifying. And if RB wants that second place in the driver standings Checo has a better Chance than Ricciardo.
This is a make or break it move for Danny. If he stinks, his F1 career is probably over. If he waited, he probably could have gotten a 2 year deal from a better team. I guess the upside is he could get into a RB sooner if he is good.
Wait for what tho? No top team is available for 2024 unfortunately. Only some heated arguments between driver & team would lead to shock exits (Hamilton - Mercedes and Leclerc/Sainz - Ferrari)
He only really wanted to have a potential crack at podiums, so wasn't so keen on those mid-lower end teams regardless. This is his best chance of having one last crack at real success.
With Alpha Tauri looking to develop more down the path of the Red Bulls next year it makes a lot of sense to have Ricciardo in the seat who can give feedback and aid development throughout the year. The marketing side of things is an absolute no brainer with Ricciardo being one of the most recognisable figures in F1. He’s jumping into a team which may have improvement levels similar to what Aston Martin had this year. I think he’ll be on board with Alpha Tauri for 2024 development and it will be a battle between him and Tsunoda to replace Checo when his contract is up. Can’t wait for the comeback episode in drive to survive!
If you look at Nyck Devries history, he has always been a late bloomer. He's not the sort of driver that just comes in and blows everyone away on pure natural talent he needs to take time and get there through hardwork which is why the RB driver program is completely the wrong place for him. It isn't the sort of place where they take time to nurture talent and put their arm around someone when they are struggling. You either succeed there or they drop you. Well he got his chance and was able to live the dream. Good luck for him in the future
I think F1 in general is not a good place for those drivers anymore, there is such a clear hierarchy with established teams that rookies end up in backmarker teams who don't want to act as training wheels only to lose their drivers to top teams once they start performing, that's why Schumacher lost his drive as well in favor of experienced drivers. And no big team wants to risk a rookie when they need immediate results. AT should be the best place for him to get him ready for RB, but instead they treat AT like RB now despite the car being absolute garbage.. it was one thing to replace Gasly and Albon for not performing in a top team, it's entirely different to boot De Vries for not performing in a team designed to be a learning environment. Makes no sense to expect De Vries to blow everyone away and lead the team when even a good weekend you struggle to get a single point out of that shitbox, him being replaced is clearly a move in regards to get Daniel ready to replace Perez next season if necessary, it's not so much down to De Vries his performance, that's just the excuse.
@@Miragexeresults do not always mean points. results are also the comparison between nyck and yuki and to be honest, they speak for themselves. yuki has sent it into q3,q2 and nyck commonly got swamped out of quali by q1. then, he is nowhere near the points unlike tsunoda who actually is. and if he isnt outright slow, he gets into wheel to wheel collisions with magnussen... hes not even like logan who is just slow but at the very least keeps the williams out of the wall
@@no1washerezz Comparing a rookie after 10 races to Yuki who is in his third year isn't really a worthwhile comparison. Nyck didn't perform any worse than the average rookie. It took Russell 2 and half seasons to score his first points bar Sakhir, and in his first 10 races he didn't even finish higher than P15, yet no one ever talked about booting him from Williams because that's the whole point of those teams, to allow a driver to develop. Nowadays no one is saying Russell is outright slow and has no place in the sport yet had an identical start to his F1 career in a useless car.
De Vries got booted so RB could test Daniel to replace Perez.. De Vries not impressing was just convenient for RB to boot him early but it's entirely unfair to him. He just got caught in the RB shenanigans.. if he had gone with any other team he'd be completing the season without issue, instead he only got to do a few races before the gun being put at his head and demanded he performed better.. Perez not performing is ultimately what cost him his seat rather than his own performance being the determining factor.
@@amagno4269 Do you know he's 99 points behind Verstappen and barely keeping ahead of Alonso, and only because the AM is performing like crap lately and Perez STILL struggles to keep ahead?
Not quite, they can only really use RB's suspension and gearbox. The aerodynamics are still on AT alone and as much as they share ownership, sharing aerodynamic data between teams has been forbidden for years now. A closer relationship with RB will most likely see them return to the midfield regularly fighting for points, but at this point they're two years off the RB development so they won't be able to make as big of a leap as Aston Martin did for example. Just look at how far off Haas is to Ferrari despite using all the parts they are allowed from them and literally operating out of Maranello.
You're guessing? Well you must have missed the headline. They said the second team will no longer be a junior team and will be a sister team again. They're going to use nearly the whole car from the previous years red bull.
It seems like a smart move. He can help the development of the AT and if he overachieves while Perez struggles still, he could have a shot at being the #2 at Red Bull, Then Lawson goes to the AT with Yuki in 2024.
I think the development of the car is the biggest benefit here, and one that a lot of people seem to be overlooking. Alpha Tauri need all the help they can get to make the car better for 2024.
The fact that Mclaren and mercs are getting better this year shows the potential threat for RB next year or even after the break. If checo still underperforms, it's highly likely that he'd trade place with either Yuki or daniric, if RB sees either of them perform well.
RBR is ruthless, and yeah the winner of AlphaTauri this half of the season could replace Perez. Perez could not handle the seat in reality. It’s telling that he struggled against Lance Stroll, who has been utterly obliterated by Fernando Alonso. I suspect the Pink Mercedes was a great car held back by Stroll/Perez.
@@summersoldier1003 Fair comment - and Ricciardo's wins at Red Bull were using the Renault engine which was less developed than the Mercedes and Ferrari.
I remember them asking what Danny needed to do to get back into the seat. Horner said he just needed 5min to get his suit on. Hes been quick in the Sim and the tyre testing just prooved it.
Dang... Wifey and I were just talking about how bad things were going at Alpha Tauri as well with Checo and wondering who could replace anyone there and one name leapt to mind immediately. Good to see that schnoz back on the grid. We missed him.
The one thing that has been overlooked is that the final 1 lap shootout at Silverstone is that the track improved with every car that passed on it. Every later car had an edge and Perez went first.
@hexhiaa it's a delicate path to walk. Near Max in the points and Whiny Spice and Dr Evil have a problem. Too far behind and it's not enough. Still Silverstone was an exciting race, and the changeable weather helped.
2 things: 1 - The main factor is the availability of D Ricciardo. He's been really impressive. It makes sense, as, currently, S Perez is not performing. Good to have someone with Danny's experience and known speed waiting to line up. (I expect a switch at some point Perez for D Ricc. in / out of Red Bull vs. Alpha Tuari). 2 - The young driver program has been hugely successful. They have nurtured the next 'great' in Verstappen. They produced Ricciardo, Sainz and Gasly, all GP winners. Those who have passed through F1 have gone on to do other things (very well), namely, S Buemi and Vergne, both FE champions. Also, Albon who is now impressing....
One of the things that hasn't gotten a lot of discussion, and I think a key reason DR was willing to go to Alpha Tauri is that next year they plan to align closely with RB regarding any and all parts they are allowed to get from other teams. The feeling is that this will greatly improve the performance of the AT cars. I don't think DR is hoping for a return to RB next year, but 2025 when Checo's contract is up. If he can outperform Tsunoda this year, and then start being competitive against the midfield in 2024, if Checo continues to struggle, Daniel could get the call up for 2025. At least I think that's his plan.
Nyck was 2 points behind Yuki. Perez is 99 points behind Max. F1 / Liberty are unhappy that there isn’t a title battle, and there’s talk of pegging back RB. In 2016, we had Mercedes dominance, but we still had a battle until the last race. Daniel is purely at AT so as they can easily swap him with Perez, even mid season if necessary. If Perez continues to implode, I expect Ricciardo and Perez to swap seats after the summer break.
I think another reason that Alpha Tauri needed to bring Daniel in is his experience with developing the car. Daniel was always very good at this prior to going to Mclaren. AT have not advanced since Gasly left as I don't think Tsunoda is strong enough in this area. They were good at the beginning of the year with Yuki scoring points but the car has stood still since. It will be interesting to see if AT improve in the second half.
People will actually be paying attention to, and rooting for, Alpha Tauri now. I know I'll be rooting for Danny! I'm excited to see him back in a seat and glad we don't have to wait a full season to see it happen. There's no downside to this move at all. Edit: Unless you're Nyck de Vries! (I'd be more sad for him if he had actually showed some kind of signs of improvement, but he hasn't, so he really had to go.)
I think putting Liam Lawson into the Alpha Tauri this year would just hamper his development. I think most rookies should be given the benefit of pre-season testing and development so they can tune the car to their needs and adjust to the car's design.
As much as De Vries had a disappointing first half of the season I think it’s unwarranted and disrespectful they cut him loose so early. They could’ve at least waited until the summer break. Regardless, this just goes to show how cutthroat the F1 grid is.
They neede more data FAST, because close after the summer break most contracts are getting signed. Red Bull want's to know if it should renew the contract with Tsunoda and if it would be RB or AT. If you wait, then you have less data.
This move covers a lot of bases for RB. This tests if Danny can race in real life and if his sim work is representative. It puts pressure on Perez to improve. It allows an experienced driver to drive the AT and give fresh feedback on what's wrong and what they need to focus on. It gives a reference to compare Yuki against, is he doing well in a bad car or is Nyk just that bad.
Nice explanation how they hired Nyck. I was always wondering about it, why RB decided that "careless" after 1 good race. Especially that Williams was fitting Monza, so nobody knows how good it really was, because you couldnt compare him against Alex back then. And his FE seasons was never especially impressive, not even his championship winning one. So that "emotional" decision by Marko was always a slap into the face of all the RB Juniors, especially Lawson, who would have been better prepared for that season in my opinion. I dont think the driving talent is the problem in the RB junior programm atm. For me it is more about the lack of confidence in to the juniors from the people in charge at RB. Still I am feeling for Nyck, because he had no fair chance or time to learn and show his talent in F1. It will be interesting to see, how Ric will do against Yuki. I think RB is using it mainly to finally evaluate if Yuki is good enough for the RB seat. And for Ric it is a nice opportunity to show everybody, that he is still a top tier driver.
Because a one-off good performance made Helmet Marko reminiscence back to USA 2007 and then their backmarker car running in the podium later that year, but unfortunately didn't pan out that way.
They didnt have other options and they wanted someone who has atleast driven F1 car. The RB juniors werent ready for F1 when that AT seat opened after Gasly suddenly leaving
I think Liam will be there next year. Kids fast but needed to grow up and mature a little. Japan has been good for him in this respect. He is looking much more a complete package this year. I fully support RB not rushing him into F1.
@@acegarcia3719 this is a great situation for RB. They see how good Yuki is, where Danny is at and likely who replaces Sergio. There are definitely performance clauses that he isn't fulfilling but he might still be the best driver for RB next year. These changes give them max info on all contigencies. I don't see Danny being at AT under many circumstance next year... unless perhaps as a mentor/benchmark for Lawson??
Checo's confidence is shattered. He's trying to drive the RB beyond his ability...and this years RB is VERY squirly and loose on the turns (due to the extreme low downforce it has), but that's what makes it a rocket on the straights. If Checo was to just accept the fact that he can't keep up with Max, and just drive to his own ability, he'd place 2nd at every GP, and perhaps even win a couple more since he's fantastic at street courses. This years version of Max is completely different from years past...this man is possessed this year. How he jokes with his mechanics, and then does things like "I'm ahead by 24 seconds, let's pit and go for fastest lap". He's absolutely savage this year
Daniel's such a great character and one of a kind personality its great for F1 to have him back racing. Hopefully he can find his peak speed and finish his career on his terms
I appreciate the graphic at 5:06 that you keep using, but the colours seems switched up on both Merc, Aston, Haas, McLaren, and Williams (at least compared to your usual graphics). I don't know if the team logos are the ones determining the pace or the colour. Just a heads up.
Mr.Smiles is back. I can't wait to see him in Hungary. This could be a great opportunity to have a comeback story for Riccardo. I'm sad that De Vries failed in F1, would've been an incredible story.
I feel like this is a message to Checo to say "hey, get it together as we got two drivers in the AlphaTauri that can easily take your seat in both Yuki and Danny if you don't get your act together"
@@wallymcguire2033he made some mistakes, but nothing outrageous specialy for a rookie, let alone the fact that the AT are the worst car of this season so far, he would obviously look bad, and any atempt at pushing would look riskier that it should, even Yuki has had terrible performances this season It's really a shame RB/AT has so little commitment
@@soundscape26 he didn't "landed" on the wrong seat, AT fought to get him despite he was almost secured with Williams, thats why they had to go with Logan
I don’t believe that DannyRic is ever going to be back in a RB car. This move is about them trying to figure out how good Tsunoda is and DR is a known quantity. I also think they may put Lawson in the car for a race or two to get a feel for him as well. DR needs to complete his rehab and it’s possible that with RB taking a more active role in AT next year that they may be able to hide him a decent car.
I've been thinking this as well; I think Horner and/or Marko haven't gotten over him leaving after 2018. They're dangling the RB carrot to get him to do their bidding, but he won't get the seat (or I'd be highly surprised if he did). If he shows a return to form (or even better), putting him against Max is gonna be Senna vs Prost all over again...Ricciardo wants a WDC first and foremost, and the current RB is finally up to the task.
Completely agreed in all of it. Daniels return is a gain for all of Formula 1, because he is an amazing person, massive character, and when thriving being one of the fastest out there. But the way the RB empire is handling their junior ranks is a joke now. Honestly, they have 6 F2 driver. 6!!! And on top af that they have Lawson waiting out in Japan doing some Red Bull promotion without a F1 drive in sigt anytime soon. It would be way more fair to call it "Red Bull commercial driver" instead of "Red Bull Junior Driver".
I think you are also overlooking that Tsunoda could possibly leave Alpha Tauri next year. After all he is a Honda junior and three years has usually been the magic number for Red Bull to cut loose drivers that don't quite look good enough for Red Bull. With Riccardo there they will be able to evaluate exactly where he is as well as possibly mentor him to prep him for that seat. In my mind I wouldn't be surprised if he joined Honda at Aston Martin to replace Stroll. Having Riccardo in the seat now means they can not only bench the two drivers against each other, but potentially have a driver up and running ready to push and mentor Lawson if he does replace Tsunoda.
@@Miragexe doesn't mean that AM won't put him in place before hand especially as a show of faith to Honda. Plus Stroll is a current problem. They will be wanting an upgrade sooner rather than later
Aston Martin isn’t firing Stroll, and if they do, it’s not for Tsunoda, that’s such an underwhelming signing. Honestly they should try tempting Leclerc from Ferrari
@@Miragexe Papa Stroll will have to choose between success and nepotism. With Alonso's performances there will be enough pressure and reasons to replace him already within the team. Add pressure from Honda who will also want success and potentially be looking for a young driver even if not Tsunoda. Either way, Lance's days are numbered
This is much deeper than we all think, here is my honest opinion. In the first few races, Perez showed that he can handle Verstappen, and even be fast/er, what happened as soon as it became clear in the Red Bull team? Perez suddenly has all kinds of problems, and a few races later, this man can't pass Q3. RB knows that they will benefit much more with Verstappen than with Perez, that's why Perez is at the exit door, who doesn't see that, I don't know what to tell you... Ricciardo returns (very quickly) to RB in exchange for Perez. Perez wants to compete, but RB won't let him, it's crystal clear. Ricciardo has received all the instructions, you are going back to RB to do the work for us, read Verstappen. He is the only driver who has no problem accepting it because he has been up and down in his career, a very honest man, without a big ego, he accepts the task. That's the whole story behind this… Basically, it is obvious that Perez thinks he can compete with Verstappen for the first position. And RB doesn't want that, they don't need that "drama"... Their plan is, Max champ = next 10+ years.
I'd like to see a technical analysis where people in the know give us some thoughts of whether DR is likely to do well in the modern Red Bull. He's very limited in what cars suit him, he's no Alonso, but I have no clue whether DR can drive a Verstappen Red Bull?
He just did. and he obviously can. Just completed testing in the RB19 at silverstone and while its only rumours, he was quick(quick enough for P2 at silverstone rumours say). And there must be at least some truth to it because he's been parachuted straight into the AT seat.
You mean a fast car with good braking, handling and traction? DR would love to drive that People underestimate just how much of a mess the 2022 McLaren was, the team are just NOW getting to grips with fixing it’s design problems
I think it was said before that Ricciardo's strength is down to trail braking techniques - something that he absolutely mastered in Red Bull making him capable of doing overtakes where he often out-braked other drivers. It's something that Renault initially didn't offered him but later on they started to fit his style, and McLarens simply just couldn't design a car around him to fit his trail braking style, making him looking a lot worse than he probably should be. I'd argue he's got a similar "problem" as Vettel in a sense that both drivers heavily relied on a set of car characteristics to maximize its performance - something that only Max and Alonso is capable of extracting 100% regardless of the car's flaws or otherwise. Let's hope AT04's brakes is a good one though. Yuki certainly did complain about it before.
You can't pretend DeVries should have gotten the same couple of season as other rookies to find his speed. He's almost 30, had a whole career of racing all kinds of classes and honing his craft. He had to beat fresh-out-of-junior-categories Tsunoda. And when he didn't, he had to show that he's making progress to get to that point. But he was just consistently slow and clumsy, with pretty much zero progress. They didn't hire him as a new fresh face that they invest several years into to mature his driving. They hired him under the premise of being a matured and complete racing veteran, who only needs to learn the controls of a different car. 10 races + pre-season testing later, and he was still slow and crash-happy.
It seems clear that this is a plan to evaluate Ricciardo further with a view to him moving back to the main team. I suspect that if Perez wasn’t still in second in the championship, Ricciardo may have may have been moved to the main team now in light of the rumoured very fast times he was setting in tyre testing. However, to drop Perez now means the team giving up getting the trifecta of first and second in the driver championship and the manufacturer championship. If Perez continues to fall behind too far and looks like missing second in the championship, I suspect they we’ll shift him out before the end of the year. They are ruthless in Red Bull.
I don’t feel bad for NDV cuz honestly it seems a bit lucky that he even got his shot at a seat this year. He wasn’t on a career path that seemed to lead to f1 cuz of whatever assessment (right or wrong) teams had made about his abilities, and his pinch appearance at monza last year helped Helmut focus on a small sample size and think he would be a good addition. Hopefully he still got his contract paid out, but it just didn’t work. On to the next series for him
Danny is by far my favorite driver, and I really want to see him end up back in a top team, but I feel like there’s a reason why they didn’t want to put Lawson in the junior team. My thoughts are they probably feel that Daniel can bring important knowledge to the team and help with car setup. Also now that Honda signed a deal with Aston Martin, who knows if Yuki will be with the team for much longer, so Lawson could be planned to take his place.
I think it's better for Lawson to wait. It's more sensible to let him do pre season and start properly instead of throwing him into the liobs mid season..
I share your assessment of Helmet Marko’s selection process. I imagine he just thinks he’s “ruthless” but the amount of swaps and knee-jerks are getting embarrassing.
That's very true nobody wanted Nick DeVries and they made a knee-jerk reaction and signed him after One race and I'm super excited to see Danny Rick back on the grid with that giant smile
It’s not that the junior program is sputtering. It’s coz Dannyric is an amazing talent, in and out of the car, with boatloads of charisma and infectious energy, he outshines all the juniors and even half the current grid, is the #1 star of DTS, has massive global appeal… to not give him a seat in F1, would be like saying no to a second helping of your favorite meal to make room for tomorrow’s lunch.
I think its less about Ricciardo and moreso trying to see where Yuki is. If Yuki outperforms Ricciardo Yuki will have the seat in 2 Years and if its the other way around Yuki will be dropped for Lawson or Iwasa.
I think they're bringing a known quantity like Ricciardo back to Alpha Tauri to sort of show prospective sponsors for next year that Alpha Tauri is a bankable team rather than let Nyck take his time to settle into a bad car. So if Ricciardo drives the wheels off this car along with Yuki's form and they grab a few points here and there, they become a more promising team for sponsors for next year when they have a plan of sticking closer to the parent team in terms of parts and design
Just disappointed that I didn't hear more race engineers say debris up ahead only for them to correct themselves and say De Vries.. Missed opportunity.
This is definitely pushed by the combination that Perez has been underperforming, and Ric actually did well in the test. If Perez was performing as expected, I doubt Ric would be on the grid right now.
All the talk in this video about how it was unfathomable for Red Bull to sign De Vries in the first place is so hypocritical on The Race’s part. You guys literally put out videos talking about how he had proved his skills with his Monza debut and that he was in-demand, especially at Williams. Stop pretending like you knew this was a bad choice for Red Bull. That aside, I’m happy for Daniel and I hope he performs well; the grid needs him back.
I want to feel bad for De Vries, but after all the “he deserves a seat” hype, (which only accelerated after Monza last year) & the fact that he said he’d be the leader AT needed, (completely disregarding Tsunoda) you can’t be this unprepared. Being older than easily half the grid doesn’t help in a sport where youth is a priority either.
Lawson is the heir apparent. If he wins SF this year he's a lock for Red Bull 2nd seat and then it's only a question of how Perez performs in early 2024. If RB thinks they will lose the WCC they will swap for Lawson. Otherwise, after Perez's contract is up after 2024 it's all Lawson barring unforeseen events.
RBR playing safe and getting a more experienced driver to move Alpha Tauri from the back to at least in the mid field and hopefully mid-top level. Good things are going to show up for Nyck.
I think there is a real chance Liam doesn't get this alpha tauri seat next year. It looks like Helmot Marko is hedging his bets with Iwasa and Lawson as they are both going incredibly well in their respective championships. May give them another year so they can make the right choice, as it looks like tsunoda is being backed in even though he is linked to Aston Martin
I'm sad for Nick. But well. Hopefully he does well. However, for RB, Riccardo will never replace Perez. Drivers have good and bad moments, Perez is currently on a bad one, but in general his consistency is good. Hopefully in 2 or 3 races he can have a good qualy, because when is Sunday, Perez always do well 👌
Ricciardo has so much star power, it's what is opening doors for him. If he was a wooden racer with 7 GP wins he wouldn't get the same red carpet... It's a marketing opportunity for both teams as well, win win win for them except De vrys.
Dr. Helmut Marko has said that Alpha Tauri will get a lot of changes coming its way, which include using as many Red Bull parts as regulation allows. So, it may have quite a strong car next year. I think that might be the main reason behind Daniel Ric taking the seat now.
Yep you hit the nail on the head. The Alpha gig is temporary until they kick out their second driver of the year. But if RIC performs poorly it will be the nail in his coffin
I think Ricciardo is meant to: 1. be properly evaluated 2. benchmark Tsunoda and 3. put some pressure on Perez. It's a "to the end of the year to show what you got" situation, to clear up where everyone stands. All to bring some clarity for Marko regarding all drivers currently under Red Bull contracts, to see where the puzzle pieces fit right now (except for Max abviously and Albon who remains pretty unaffected). It's all about obtaining the most knowledge considering all hypotheticals. They want to know where Ricciardo really is and whether they could regain the force they once had with him, if they wanted to replace Perez. Tsunoda is in his third year and his perfomance looks good but only relatively. They want to know where his career could go because there ultimately are a lot of people in the junior pipeline, however, he doesn't quite look like they guy to replace Perez. They didn't put in their juniors now because they want both of them to go out and make happen what they want: get the title, earn the seat. Iwasa and Lawson have shown some good performances but they haven't gone and taken it. Everyone else simply hasn't shown enough or isn't far enough up the ladder yet, dropping out of the equation for now. It's a harsh treatment for De Vries but in the end, he knew, this was the deal he signed. He took it because of the included opportunities, knowing about the simultaneous risks that would balance them. He is 28 already, he was an F2 champion (albeit in a weak field), he was a FE champion - he has quite some experience outside of the big thing. Because of that he was adamant to not be treated as a rookie. He knew he would be evaluated in this way and he called for it and got the treatment according to the terms he and Red Bull had signed, simple as that.
Gotta disagree with one thing here: The idea that De Vries didn't get a drive after his F2 title being down to a perceived lack of ability simply isn't true. He was sort of the original Piastri in the sense that he didn't have the money to make him irresistible, unlike Nicholas Latifi who got an F1 seat instead, but he did get signed to a driver program shortly there after. His opportunity was just one he had no choice but to wait for which is also similar to what Felipe Drugovich is facing right now; he might end up waiting just as long as De Vries did. Definitely a knee jerk reaction for Red Bull/AlphaTauri to sign Nyck, but the idea that there was writing on the wall about his ability is a bad take.
It's do-or-die for both Tsunoda and Ricciardo. If Ricciardo is instantly faster than Tsunoda after a hiatus, Tsunoda's career is over. But if Ricciardo can't comprehensively beat Tsunoda by the end of the season, it's hard to see Ricciardo having much of a career left in him either.
I agree on both scenarios. Absolutely Ricciardo has to be beat Tsunoda regardless if he's not been on a F1 grid since last year. And if he beats Tsunoda handily then that could be it for him. Things though are a bit more complicated with Tsunoda from a backing point of view since he's backed by Honda but Honda's quasi RB engine program support will be ending in 2025 so I'm not sure how much that has played a factor to this point in why Tsunoda has continued to stay at AT even though he hasn't done a whole lot to help cement his place in F1.
Tsunoda is sponsored by Honda, so it'll be seriously difficult for them to drop him if they wanted to. Not to mention, he's been massively complimented by the other drivers for how much he's improved this season.
@@odin4227 I don't think he's at risk of being dropped unless Riccy boi does to him what Norris did to Riccy. But it will kill his chances at getting a shot at the main team, effectively stalling his career. He'd basically be in a position Gasly was for years, not good enough for the main team and warming the seat until another promising junior comes. He'd have to look outside of the RB camp to try and find a seat which is very unreliable and unpredictable if you're not a champion or a pay driver.
Yeah if Tsunoda loses badly it will become clear RB have been wasting their time with him
You summed it up precisely.
To be honest, I think it is wise to leave Liam Lawson out of this opportunity. Rushing out of Super Formula doesn't make sense when; it's good practice to participate in a full season rather than 2 halves of a completely different championship, he could still win the super formula championship which is good for his cv, the jetlag and general pain of moving all of his kit and belongings from Japan to Fienza in less than 10 days, he didn't participate in the 3 days of testing at the start of the season which is essential for the feel for the car, because he's joining halfway through the season he is put instantly put under pressure to do what De Vries couldn't do with Daniel Riccardo breathing down his neck. Its the right time for Riccardo, he needs evaluating whilst Lawson needs to finish what he started.
The best marketing move for Redbull is to drop Perez, put Riccardo there, bring Lawson to AT for a couple of seasons and then retire Daniel to put him in the senior team. Daniel a couple of years in RB would be a huge marketing move.
I don't agree with most of the takes in this video. It makes perfect sense to replace Nyck with Daniel for the rest of the year. It makes almost no sense to bring in a rookie mid-season, especially for all of the reasons you stated. It probably makes the LEAST sense to leave Nyck in that seat for the rest of the season, as at least Daniel can be of help for developing the car.
I'm sure they would have started the season with Daniel if they could have, but he didn't want that seat. Some time away has given Daniel some perspective and renewed passion, and an opportunity to unlearn some of those mistakes he learned at McLaren. I thought he was making a mistake choosing a reserve driver role, but this seems to have worked out to be a win-win situation for everyone, other than Nyck.
This also gives Alpha Tauri a better chance to evaluate Yuki's performance given that the car is so bad. Daniel is much more of a known, veteran quantity than Nyck.
You don't know Perez has probably the best sponsors in F1? Next to Hamilton and Max, from Mexico and american companies he brings in more millions then he is paid by Red Bull.
@@iaintdonknow Redbull can bring At&t back in a heartbeat, Redbull isn't looking for sponsoring money, they want to market their brand which will increase their sales, Daniel's personality is the epitome of Redbull's marketing, he will sell drinks, Checo only sells caps to his Mexican fans.
Great comment. Liam Lawson is doing a fantastic job in SF and if he wins will have a strong argument for a seat next year. DR can both evaluate and develop the AT .. while both himself and Yuki will be evaluated by default.
Puts more than subtle pressure on Perez .. but you have to think this was coming after a run of poor results.
Then there is the commercial aspect of DR in a seat again ..
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Danny is a washed up old has-been, he was never that good. Now he'll be finishing last in an AT... What a legacy!! Haha
@@Michael-Masi-2021I have a feeling that this is going to age very poorly
@@Michael-Masi-2021😂
@@Michael-Masi-2021That’s pretty incorrect, Daniel Riccardo is a quality driver, he smashed kvyat at red bull, has 8 race wins, smashed both of his teammates at Renault and drove that car to podiums multiple times in 2020 when that car deserved to be getting low points. McLaren had a car with braking that didn’t match his driving style and was just a blip in his career. Moving to AlphaTauri will give him a road to red bull as Perez has been struggling and if he does well at Alpha this year he can probably move to Red Bull to a car he strives in.
@googleuser8012 my man started watching with drive to survive lol
The Race has not covered the two big points for Daniel as Nyck's replacement. 1st The experience/feedback Daniel can bring to develop a very underperforming car. 2nd is the added value he brings to Alpha Tauri for its rebranding or possibly even some divestment by Red Bull for next season.
Agree!
Alpine and McLaren already hinted that Daniel was shockingly bad at giving technical feedback. So i don't think your #1 point is valid.
I think it's more to do with Tsunoda and his wishes to go to Red Bull, Perez performing bad, their hesitation and needing a known driver to validate it. Nick was not a good comparison, the car is bad and they need something to confirm their choice. Given Nick has 0 points, they expect the car to not further improve and thus not scoring point for the remainder of the season, they changed something. In this case Nick out and a known driver in. That way they have more data when contracts are prepared (somewhere in september).
@@SPeeSimonRicciardo also mentioned that he wasn’t good at it himself
@@SPeeSimon are we classing technical ability and feedback in same class as car behaviour feedback and ability?? because i could’ve sworn i read something a while ago that stated that Adrian Newey said that he had very good set up feedback. maybe i’ve misread it, but it’s does line up with the fact that during his time at Red Bull they always had the best chassis but an absolutely awful engine. now i know Adrian is a fucking genius, but at the end of the day he’s not the one out on track driving the car. so surely some of the success in that department is down to good driver feedback. also, if he lacked any kind of car setup ability and feedback then how did Renault go from semi regular points to being the 3rd fastest car on some weekends the very next season?? maybe i’m getting things confused and car set up feedback and technical feedback are 2 completely different things. was just a thought that came to my head
Ricciardo will be swapped with Perez, maybe even during the 2023 season.
Personally, I don't see Nyck De Vries being ousted just for his lack of performance on race weekends. It's no secret that the AT04 has been struggling on track and the recent upgrade package in Silverstone seems to be ineffective at the very least. Ricciardo being picked up for the rest of the season could be Alpha Tauris way of trying to get back on track with car development as much as it is an attempt to improve the teams points. Having an experienced driver that knows what it feels like to drive a winning car and the knowledge of how to give that feedback back to the engineers might be Alpha Tauris way of saving the rest of their season/preventing them from falling to far behind next season. This would also explain why Ricciardo was picked over another younger, rookie driver to take the spot.
Nahhh. De Vries is sacked for sure. Would you pay him to race another time? Were talking hundreds to millions of dollars per race here.
@@u12bluede vries is probably on the lowest salary on the grid at 500k like yuki was. So most like about 22,000 a race
With Tsunoda outperforming deVries and the car... yeah no chance for devries.
Agreed 100%. Experience with Red Bull setup is a key as we have seen with both DeVries and Ricciardo. Neither driver did well with the competitor’s car.
Agreed, this decision seems like it has more to do with higher level tactical considerations than purely his performance. Sure he's being outperformed, but he's not performing so terribly he'd be sacked solely based on that.
As soon as I heard the news, I immediately thought about the potential. It’s clear that after the tyre test in Silverstone (in which Daniel did times capable of the front row of the grid), they’ve put him in the Alphatauri to judge him against Tsunoda. This is because they’re getting rid of Perez and aren’t sure which of Tsunoda or Ricciardo should take the seat. That’s the only real reason I see for this happening tbh
Not sure why people keep talking about a tire test done with a completely different car. The Alfa tauri is nowhere near the level of even the rb18 much less the RB19. It’s great the Dani can drive the rb19 quickly…I’m sure a lot of drivers could drive that rb 19 really quick.
@@cdevlin574 The tire test is the reason Red Bull replaced Nyck with Daniel. Marko confirmed that it was the tire test that convinced them. But you are right, times in the red bull mean nothing if he’s in an Alphatauri, which is why I made the connection that it’s for them to see which of Tsunoda or Ricciardo are better suited to replace Perez. Also for the tire test, Daniel in similar conditions to Saturday consistently out in Laps capable of a front row start whereas Perez didn’t even escape Q1 again.
I mean let’s be honest they’re not giving yuki the seat either way
@@GuacJuan Well, RB main objective is give Max the chance to win many titles with a teammate that helps instead of challenge him... I think they won't risk that with Daniel or any other driver, the want a Hamilton-Bottas like line up
@MomPickMeUpImScared-st4wi Well I kind of agree with you, but after Brazil 22, Bahrein 23, Austria 23, all the drama with Max's father, just to name some examples...
Do you really believe that, do you really think in your heart that RB want to be successful with any of the two drivers ?
Don't think so and neither do anyone...
My main takeaway from this is that he’s already realised he misses f1. So I’m happy for him that he’s got back in. Earlier this year he seemed like a man who needed a whole year away
Naaaaah, he was always eager to get back in F1 as soon as possible. It was clear as soon as he got back in the RB family. Saying he needed time off yada yada was just for image imo
@@captaintoet1983i do think he made a good decision stepping away from mclaren
@@elliot.1 Thats an odd way to say he got fucking fired.
he was fired from McLaren and no one else wanted him, of course he’s missed being in F1 lol
@@elliot.1wow
I don’t think that it was a mistake by Red Bull to hire De Vries in the first place: he won the F2 and FE Championships and cannot really be considered a real rookie. Just like for Ricciardo now, the move to Alpha Tauri was either make or break for De Vries and it just didn’t work out. With the way he was underperforming it’s definitely the right decision to replace him.
All these people saying devries is not a rookie cause he drove F2 and Formula E. F1 is so much faster and harder to drive than any thing else. If you’ve never driven an F1 you’re a ROOKIE
@@raceyrache8463He is 28 years old, he basically needed to hit the ground running to earn his spot. He doesn’t have the same level of flexibility a young 20s rookie driver has.
@@raceyrache8463 Even if so, Piastri for example is doing way better, is more consistent and closer to his teammate in terms of pure pace. De Vries didn’t have what it takes for F1, and still, considering that he already won a title outside of F1‘s junior categories, he‘s been massively disappointing all season long.
I think it’s genius to have Daniel and Yuki to battle for a potential Red Bull seat. It gives Red Bull more options and it will help alphatauri score some more points.
Yuki cannot battle for anything! A second rate driver who is only there because he has slanty eyes and sponsors with more money than sense!
@@stevejh69 Second rate driver perhaps but the rest of that is a shit take, get with the times
@@EndlessSound had to report that guy for blatant racism. No need for anymore of that in the f1 fandom.
@@stevejh69 I think Yuki has more than proven himself for a Red Bull seat. He’s far more consistent than last year and he’s been able to put the slowest car on the grid more than almost drivers could. I think he’s the most responsible driver that Red Bull has. He’s the only driver available that won’t fight with max.
@@Henry_Racingmeasuring him against Danny Ric is the best way to be sure, he has been in the SIM with red bull for months now so they know what he can do compared to checo (kinda as it's only SIM).
Riccardo's last chance is happening at the same time as Perez's last chance. I hope Riccardo is able to prove himself at alphatauri, but I also hope Perez gets out of his slump. What a great season.
It's been sad watching Checo have the worst year of his career, while behind the wheel of one of the best cars ever fielded. I hope he snaps out of this funk.
I can't wait to see Daniel drive around the McClaren in Alpha. 😂
Yep!😅
@@brandonsparks5786 Did you see McLaren in the last race?? The alpha has nothing on it...🤣
@deerlord2363 mclaren have one good race every year. Ask Danny Ric. He won their only race. 🤣
@@3800TURBO Yeah, but with the upgrades, doesn't seem like that thing is going to be back in the midfield.
I think there's also another factor. Alpha Tauri said they are going to stop doing their own thing and copy the main RB team (car) as much as the rules allow. This can be even further improved when someone with months of RB19 simulator experience and potential "inside information" comes along to show them how its done when they (maybe?) can't legally go and get all that info. it's all guess work of course since i have no idea how all of this works.
Instant huge pressure on Yuki. Will see how much he has improved going up against a motivated top tier driver.
This is a 300IQ move from RB. Not only can they verify if Tsunoda is the next Verstappen but can also send a warning to Perez, to get his act together, all the while gaining an experienced driver at a time the team is in shambles.
Tsunoda really isn't the next Verstappen, he wasn't on par with Gasly and he's a good but not stellar driver
f1 casual here, tsunoda the next verstappen?
4D chess move if you consider Toto's praise on Devris, Nick leaving through the back door does a little bit of damage to Toto's talent scouting skills
@@n0273 a few people seem to think he is with how quickly he went through the junior ranks.
@@ChuyR.it fairs worse for red bulls scouting skills lol…they actually signed him 💀
I think the real pressure is on Yuki now that there is a proper measuring stick.
In proper science, it’s hard to get proper data when there are multiple variables. They know Yuki is better than Nyck. Now they can measure him against a former race champion. With Lawson, that’s two unknowns. But I think Lawson is in one of those seats next year, though. I feel bad for Nyck for not getting a real chance, but I do think this is more about getting a proper evaluation on Yuki. If DeVries was beating Yuki, it could have been the other way around.
they also know that Gasly was wiping the floor with yuki last season, he is mediocre at best are people really forgetting that he was never the first driver on his team except for this season and thats a maybe now..........
@@kabritu. I understand what you mean. But just because Gasly wiped the floor with Yuki the last two years, that doesn't mean Yuki hasn't progressed this year. It's a general rule in sports (more accurately the last year of patience of the powers that be), it's typically the third year that finalizes a person's projection. A lot of current sports stars don't find their groove until their 3rd or even 4th year, but in F1 they're aren't exactly a lot of roster spots.
It "appears" that Yuki made progress this season. If Gasly was still on the team, RB would already have a better idea if Yuki has actually stepped up or not. But that's an alternate universe. In this one, we just know that the car sucks and Nyck was consistently no where near Yuki. I'm making up a number, but I feel like the current evaluation on Yuki (this season) is less than 60% accurate.
@@benjaminpita1116 that's the thing its based on nothing right now F1 doesnt need that. If Ricciardo is faster then Yuki right from the start he is done
@@kabritu. I think we came to the same conclusion. Yuki is done if Danny is consistently faster.
@@benjaminpita1116 yeah true we will see already can't wait for Hungary
I disagree with much of your assessments here. Nyck is 28 years old, with a lot more experience than any rookie driver, so they probably took a chance on him with the expectation that even if he started out slow, he would quickly improve and help the team by being a semi-veteran presence. He's had 10 races already and hasn't improved in any meaningful way, so it makes sense to cut their losses and switch to Daniel, who, after spending some time on the sidelines, has had his enthusiasm renewed and is now willing to accept the Alpha Tauri seat. Replacing Nyck with Daniel makes the rest of this lost season meaningful: not only can he help develop and improve the car, which will bode well for next year, but he also serves as a much better barometer for Yuki's performance in what is one of the worst cars in the field.
Daniel is much more of a known quantity than Nyck and has much more experience. There is no downside to putting him in that seat. Meanwhile, as Checo continues to languish, depending on how Daniel performs they now have the option to replace Checo with either him or Yuki. They can make that decision much more confidently than if they just continued watching Nyck play pretend F1 driver.
I think you give Ricciardo too much credit. He was ragdolled by Norris in 2 different generations of McLaren. That isn’t just one bad performance in one single car. The αT looks to be a difficult car to adapt to if Yuki can’t get many results and de Vries never showed any improvement but looked good in a Williams first try. Ricciardo on his last outing isn’t better than Perez, who even with his terrible qualys, has only really languished on race race pace in Canada and Miami. And we saw Perez at the beginning of the season. Give him a car he can drive and he’s very close to Verstappen. Ricciardo hasn’t shown that kind of pace in years
@@Legorreta.M.D Facts, but its two seasons out of so many good ones. I'd give him the benefit of the doubt and see how he does.
@@Legorreta.M.D what are you talking about. Mclaren's last race winner was Ricciardo. You say give Perez a car he's comfortable and he can win. Well give Ricciardo a car he's comfortable with and he won in a midfield car.
Perez in a dominant car is worse than Ricciardo was in a midfield car. You're literally comparing Perez's best form with Ricciardo's worst and coming up with some silly opinions. Ricciardo was one of the best drivers in 2020 outperforming Landa, Sainz in a worse car and demolishing Ocon who's beaten or always been on pace with Alonso..
@@Legorreta.M.D "I think you give Ricciardo too much credit. He was ragdolled by Norris in 2 different generations of McLaren."
That's my whole point: Ricciardo is no good in a car that doesn't suit him. Neither of those cars suited him. He didn't just fall off a cliff. Red Bull wouldn't have signed him if they thought he had, either.
Perez will never match pace with Verstappen over the course of a season because Verstappen likes oversteer and Perez prefers understeer. He's always going to lose pace as the car is further developed because they're doing it for Max, not Checo.
@@rars0n I agree with you
I am a self-confessed Pérez fan, but having him around with a chronic qualifying problem is really out of character for the RB driver program. I understand having bad luck in one or two qualifying sessions, but 5 in a row are very hard to defend. He says he knows what has to be done, so I hope he does it in the next qualy, because Marko has laid the proverbial horse head in his bed.
Perez is lucky there is no replacement for him, Yuki isn't convincing and it's too much risk to put Daniel in there. Realistically De Vries isn't the problem, the AT is horrid and they won't score points either way, the problem is that Perez is not performing and there is no one to replace him, so that's why Daniel is at AT now and prepare him for RB in '24.
He's obviously being sabotaged by his own team though, surely?
@@Djspeeda You forgot the /s
@@Zero-Wolf Making mistakes isn't bad luck, that's just bad. And he is better than who? He is clearly the worst of the top drivers, below Sainz, Leclerc, Russel, Hamilton and Verstappen.
Red Bull not having a replacement drivers for the RB is entirely luck, and it's bad luck for De Vries to lose his seat over it.
Checo performed well in the races after his bad qualifying. And if RB wants that second place in the driver standings Checo has a better Chance than Ricciardo.
This is a make or break it move for Danny. If he stinks, his F1 career is probably over. If he waited, he probably could have gotten a 2 year deal from a better team. I guess the upside is he could get into a RB sooner if he is good.
Wait for what tho? No top team is available for 2024 unfortunately. Only some heated arguments between driver & team would lead to shock exits (Hamilton - Mercedes and Leclerc/Sainz - Ferrari)
It should already be over..
Which team? Who wanted to sign him other than the teams he already rejected?
He was never going to get a 2 year deal with any team other than AT in 2024.
He only really wanted to have a potential crack at podiums, so wasn't so keen on those mid-lower end teams regardless. This is his best chance of having one last crack at real success.
With Alpha Tauri looking to develop more down the path of the Red Bulls next year it makes a lot of sense to have Ricciardo in the seat who can give feedback and aid development throughout the year. The marketing side of things is an absolute no brainer with Ricciardo being one of the most recognisable figures in F1. He’s jumping into a team which may have improvement levels similar to what Aston Martin had this year. I think he’ll be on board with Alpha Tauri for 2024 development and it will be a battle between him and Tsunoda to replace Checo when his contract is up. Can’t wait for the comeback episode in drive to survive!
If you look at Nyck Devries history, he has always been a late bloomer. He's not the sort of driver that just comes in and blows everyone away on pure natural talent he needs to take time and get there through hardwork which is why the RB driver program is completely the wrong place for him. It isn't the sort of place where they take time to nurture talent and put their arm around someone when they are struggling. You either succeed there or they drop you.
Well he got his chance and was able to live the dream. Good luck for him in the future
Not being a Red Bull junior also probably contributed to having such a short leech if results weren't good enough.
@@acegarcia3719 as they said in the video, the whole thing didn't make any sense and just looked like a knee jerk reaction
I think F1 in general is not a good place for those drivers anymore, there is such a clear hierarchy with established teams that rookies end up in backmarker teams who don't want to act as training wheels only to lose their drivers to top teams once they start performing, that's why Schumacher lost his drive as well in favor of experienced drivers. And no big team wants to risk a rookie when they need immediate results.
AT should be the best place for him to get him ready for RB, but instead they treat AT like RB now despite the car being absolute garbage.. it was one thing to replace Gasly and Albon for not performing in a top team, it's entirely different to boot De Vries for not performing in a team designed to be a learning environment.
Makes no sense to expect De Vries to blow everyone away and lead the team when even a good weekend you struggle to get a single point out of that shitbox, him being replaced is clearly a move in regards to get Daniel ready to replace Perez next season if necessary, it's not so much down to De Vries his performance, that's just the excuse.
@@Miragexeresults do not always mean points. results are also the comparison between nyck and yuki and to be honest, they speak for themselves.
yuki has sent it into q3,q2 and nyck commonly got swamped out of quali by q1. then, he is nowhere near the points unlike tsunoda who actually is. and if he isnt outright slow, he gets into wheel to wheel collisions with magnussen... hes not even like logan who is just slow but at the very least keeps the williams out of the wall
@@no1washerezz Comparing a rookie after 10 races to Yuki who is in his third year isn't really a worthwhile comparison. Nyck didn't perform any worse than the average rookie.
It took Russell 2 and half seasons to score his first points bar Sakhir, and in his first 10 races he didn't even finish higher than P15, yet no one ever talked about booting him from Williams because that's the whole point of those teams, to allow a driver to develop.
Nowadays no one is saying Russell is outright slow and has no place in the sport yet had an identical start to his F1 career in a useless car.
De Vries got booted so RB could test Daniel to replace Perez.. De Vries not impressing was just convenient for RB to boot him early but it's entirely unfair to him. He just got caught in the RB shenanigans.. if he had gone with any other team he'd be completing the season without issue, instead he only got to do a few races before the gun being put at his head and demanded he performed better.. Perez not performing is ultimately what cost him his seat rather than his own performance being the determining factor.
Do you know checo is second in the world championship?
@@amagno4269 Do you know he's 99 points behind Verstappen and barely keeping ahead of Alonso, and only because the AM is performing like crap lately and Perez STILL struggles to keep ahead?
This is the right take. It’s just the unfortunate state of AT being RBR’s bitch.
I’m guessing next year’s car from the Faenza based team will be like the ‘pink Mercedes’ RP20 of the RB19.
Not quite, they can only really use RB's suspension and gearbox. The aerodynamics are still on AT alone and as much as they share ownership, sharing aerodynamic data between teams has been forbidden for years now. A closer relationship with RB will most likely see them return to the midfield regularly fighting for points, but at this point they're two years off the RB development so they won't be able to make as big of a leap as Aston Martin did for example. Just look at how far off Haas is to Ferrari despite using all the parts they are allowed from them and literally operating out of Maranello.
@@mrgalaxy396 the rules changed for next season
You're guessing? Well you must have missed the headline. They said the second team will no longer be a junior team and will be a sister team again. They're going to use nearly the whole car from the previous years red bull.
The most unshocking shock comeback in the history of the sport.
It seems like a smart move. He can help the development of the AT and if he overachieves while Perez struggles still, he could have a shot at being the #2 at Red Bull, Then Lawson goes to the AT with Yuki in 2024.
I think the development of the car is the biggest benefit here, and one that a lot of people seem to be overlooking. Alpha Tauri need all the help they can get to make the car better for 2024.
@@rars0nevidently he helped Mclaren develop their car to be worse with his own personal issues being wasted on the teams resources.
Checo is still second in the world championship… what else can he do?
I believe that’s the play behind it.
@@amagno4269 continue to keep failing to get to Q3 and struggle to get podium finishes. Possibly fall out of the 2nd place.
The fact that Mclaren and mercs are getting better this year shows the potential threat for RB next year or even after the break. If checo still underperforms, it's highly likely that he'd trade place with either Yuki or daniric, if RB sees either of them perform well.
RBR is ruthless, and yeah the winner of AlphaTauri this half of the season could replace Perez. Perez could not handle the seat in reality. It’s telling that he struggled against Lance Stroll, who has been utterly obliterated by Fernando Alonso. I suspect the Pink Mercedes was a great car held back by Stroll/Perez.
I haven't seen any facts that Mclaren is getting better.....
@@TA-wg9oi Tell me you missed Silverstone without telling me you missed Silverstone.
@@DhruvaDevOnlineHe didn't miss Silverstone. He's just blind i think
Getting an Alpha Tauri drive is a result for Daniel Ricciardo. Sebastian Buemi didn't get such an opportunity.
how many wins did buemi have in f1? there's your answer.
@@summersoldier1003 Fair comment - and Ricciardo's wins at Red Bull were using the Renault engine which was less developed than the Mercedes and Ferrari.
Holy crap my brain kinda breaks seeing a civil, level headed conversation on the internet
@@summersoldier1003 And how many wins did RIC get with a Toro Rosso (if you're trying to compare smth here)?
@@Deadeye96 As long as you avoid the hell hole that is twitter, there is a chance for your faith in humanity to be restored.
It’s really a shame that Nyck didn’t really even get a chance to prove himself. But it will be great to see Danny back
I think in Nyck's case it was only gonna work if he was commandingly faster than tsunoda from the get go given RB history of moving drivers on
10 races. Zero points. He hasn't even been close.
he already got 10 races. to prove that he can beat atleast his teammate. But here we are, only beating tsunoda twice in quali, and 0 points.
@@Kaimax61 Tsunoda only managed a measly _two_ points with that shitbox. Not really a shining light of performance, either.
@@halofreak1990 he 10 years younger
Why is no one thinking about next year when alpha tauri becomes a different team with EVEN closer ties to RBR? It could be a masterstroke.
I remember them asking what Danny needed to do to get back into the seat. Horner said he just needed 5min to get his suit on. Hes been quick in the Sim and the tyre testing just prooved it.
Dang... Wifey and I were just talking about how bad things were going at Alpha Tauri as well with Checo and wondering who could replace anyone there and one name leapt to mind immediately. Good to see that schnoz back on the grid. We missed him.
I appreciate how fast Red Bull moves with decisions. It’s cold but they push in the direction they’re headed.
The one thing that has been overlooked is that the final 1 lap shootout at Silverstone is that the track improved with every car that passed on it.
Every later car had an edge and Perez went first.
still a poor showing tho, bro literally has a rocket ship under him
@hexhiaa it's a delicate path to walk. Near Max in the points and Whiny Spice and Dr Evil have a problem. Too far behind and it's not enough. Still Silverstone was an exciting race, and the changeable weather helped.
2 things: 1 - The main factor is the availability of D Ricciardo. He's been really impressive. It makes sense, as, currently, S Perez is not performing. Good to have someone with Danny's experience and known speed waiting to line up. (I expect a switch at some point Perez for D Ricc. in / out of Red Bull vs. Alpha Tuari). 2 - The young driver program has been hugely successful. They have nurtured the next 'great' in Verstappen. They produced Ricciardo, Sainz and Gasly, all GP winners. Those who have passed through F1 have gone on to do other things (very well), namely, S Buemi and Vergne, both FE champions. Also, Albon who is now impressing....
One of the things that hasn't gotten a lot of discussion, and I think a key reason DR was willing to go to Alpha Tauri is that next year they plan to align closely with RB regarding any and all parts they are allowed to get from other teams. The feeling is that this will greatly improve the performance of the AT cars. I don't think DR is hoping for a return to RB next year, but 2025 when Checo's contract is up. If he can outperform Tsunoda this year, and then start being competitive against the midfield in 2024, if Checo continues to struggle, Daniel could get the call up for 2025. At least I think that's his plan.
Nyck was 2 points behind Yuki.
Perez is 99 points behind Max.
F1 / Liberty are unhappy that there isn’t a title battle, and there’s talk of pegging back RB. In 2016, we had Mercedes dominance, but we still had a battle until the last race.
Daniel is purely at AT so as they can easily swap him with Perez, even mid season if necessary.
If Perez continues to implode, I expect Ricciardo and Perez to swap seats after the summer break.
@JakeM218 that hasn't happened yet
I think another reason that Alpha Tauri needed to bring Daniel in is his experience with developing the car. Daniel was always very good at this prior to going to Mclaren. AT have not advanced since Gasly left as I don't think Tsunoda is strong enough in this area. They were good at the beginning of the year with Yuki scoring points but the car has stood still since. It will be interesting to see if AT improve in the second half.
Not only is this the right move, It's a massive PR success. Such great news to hear.
People will actually be paying attention to, and rooting for, Alpha Tauri now. I know I'll be rooting for Danny! I'm excited to see him back in a seat and glad we don't have to wait a full season to see it happen. There's no downside to this move at all. Edit: Unless you're Nyck de Vries! (I'd be more sad for him if he had actually showed some kind of signs of improvement, but he hasn't, so he really had to go.)
I think putting Liam Lawson into the Alpha Tauri this year would just hamper his development. I think most rookies should be given the benefit of pre-season testing and development so they can tune the car to their needs and adjust to the car's design.
As much as De Vries had a disappointing first half of the season I think it’s unwarranted and disrespectful they cut him loose so early. They could’ve at least waited until the summer break. Regardless, this just goes to show how cutthroat the F1 grid is.
I think it has a lot less to do with Nyck and more to do with Perez. I think if Perez was getting consistent top 5's Nyck would have more time.
They neede more data FAST, because close after the summer break most contracts are getting signed. Red Bull want's to know if it should renew the contract with Tsunoda and if it would be RB or AT. If you wait, then you have less data.
This move covers a lot of bases for RB. This tests if Danny can race in real life and if his sim work is representative.
It puts pressure on Perez to improve.
It allows an experienced driver to drive the AT and give fresh feedback on what's wrong and what they need to focus on.
It gives a reference to compare Yuki against, is he doing well in a bad car or is Nyk just that bad.
Nick DeVries beat Nicholas Latifi to get his F2 championship... /enough_said
"Out of kilter with reality" describes H. Marko quite well.
Nice explanation how they hired Nyck. I was always wondering about it, why RB decided that "careless" after 1 good race.
Especially that Williams was fitting Monza, so nobody knows how good it really was, because you couldnt compare him against Alex back then.
And his FE seasons was never especially impressive, not even his championship winning one.
So that "emotional" decision by Marko was always a slap into the face of all the RB Juniors, especially Lawson, who would have been better prepared for that season in my opinion.
I dont think the driving talent is the problem in the RB junior programm atm. For me it is more about the lack of confidence in to the juniors from the people in charge at RB.
Still I am feeling for Nyck, because he had no fair chance or time to learn and show his talent in F1.
It will be interesting to see, how Ric will do against Yuki. I think RB is using it mainly to finally evaluate if Yuki is good enough for the RB seat.
And for Ric it is a nice opportunity to show everybody, that he is still a top tier driver.
Max vouched for DeVries.
I mean he was the one who suggested to Nyck to call Helmut.
Because a one-off good performance made Helmet Marko reminiscence back to USA 2007 and then their backmarker car running in the podium later that year, but unfortunately didn't pan out that way.
They didnt have other options and they wanted someone who has atleast driven F1 car. The RB juniors werent ready for F1 when that AT seat opened after Gasly suddenly leaving
Daniel is one of my favorite drivers with his personality and he being a nascar fan with one of the greats Dale Earnhardt Sr.
I think Liam will be there next year. Kids fast but needed to grow up and mature a little. Japan has been good for him in this respect. He is looking much more a complete package this year. I fully support RB not rushing him into F1.
+1 on Lawson, he’s a talent for sure
Yeah, cause I don't see Riccardo staying at Alpha Tuari beyond this season. It's either Red Bull or bust.
@@acegarcia3719 this is a great situation for RB. They see how good Yuki is, where Danny is at and likely who replaces Sergio. There are definitely performance clauses that he isn't fulfilling but he might still be the best driver for RB next year. These changes give them max info on all contigencies. I don't see Danny being at AT under many circumstance next year... unless perhaps as a mentor/benchmark for Lawson??
Checo's confidence is shattered. He's trying to drive the RB beyond his ability...and this years RB is VERY squirly and loose on the turns (due to the extreme low downforce it has), but that's what makes it a rocket on the straights. If Checo was to just accept the fact that he can't keep up with Max, and just drive to his own ability, he'd place 2nd at every GP, and perhaps even win a couple more since he's fantastic at street courses. This years version of Max is completely different from years past...this man is possessed this year. How he jokes with his mechanics, and then does things like "I'm ahead by 24 seconds, let's pit and go for fastest lap". He's absolutely savage this year
Daniel's such a great character and one of a kind personality its great for F1 to have him back racing. Hopefully he can find his peak speed and finish his career on his terms
character yes but hes dirty driver!
I feel bad for DeVries but I’m so happy to see Danny on the grid again. Wish it was a happier ending but at least we get Danny back.
I can't wait to see how this unfolds. This season has gone from bleak to interesting in a matter of hours!
I appreciate the graphic at 5:06 that you keep using, but the colours seems switched up on both Merc, Aston, Haas, McLaren, and Williams (at least compared to your usual graphics). I don't know if the team logos are the ones determining the pace or the colour. Just a heads up.
Mr.Smiles is back. I can't wait to see him in Hungary. This could be a great opportunity to have a comeback story for Riccardo. I'm sad that De Vries failed in F1, would've been an incredible story.
I feel like this is a message to Checo to say "hey, get it together as we got two drivers in the AlphaTauri that can easily take your seat in both Yuki and Danny if you don't get your act together"
It’s a shame for Nyck. Too bad they couldn’t give him the full season
They could. It was himself that didn’t make it possible.
@@wallymcguire2033he made some mistakes, but nothing outrageous specialy for a rookie, let alone the fact that the AT are the worst car of this season so far, he would obviously look bad, and any atempt at pushing would look riskier that it should, even Yuki has had terrible performances this season
It's really a shame RB/AT has so little commitment
He landed on the wrong team... no other teams bar Red Bull replace drivers halfway through the season.
@@shock7496
Whether the car is good or not makes no difference. He was compared to his teammate, who has the same car
@@soundscape26 he didn't "landed" on the wrong seat, AT fought to get him despite he was almost secured with Williams, thats why they had to go with Logan
I think calling the Alpha Tauri 'lower-midfield' is over praising them.
It's like calling the Red Bull 'upper-midfield'
I don’t believe that DannyRic is ever going to be back in a RB car. This move is about them trying to figure out how good Tsunoda is and DR is a known quantity. I also think they may put Lawson in the car for a race or two to get a feel for him as well. DR needs to complete his rehab and it’s possible that with RB taking a more active role in AT next year that they may be able to hide him a decent car.
I've been thinking this as well; I think Horner and/or Marko haven't gotten over him leaving after 2018. They're dangling the RB carrot to get him to do their bidding, but he won't get the seat (or I'd be highly surprised if he did). If he shows a return to form (or even better), putting him against Max is gonna be Senna vs Prost all over again...Ricciardo wants a WDC first and foremost, and the current RB is finally up to the task.
Completely agreed in all of it. Daniels return is a gain for all of Formula 1, because he is an amazing person, massive character, and when thriving being one of the fastest out there. But the way the RB empire is handling their junior ranks is a joke now. Honestly, they have 6 F2 driver. 6!!! And on top af that they have Lawson waiting out in Japan doing some Red Bull promotion without a F1 drive in sigt anytime soon. It would be way more fair to call it "Red Bull commercial driver" instead of "Red Bull Junior Driver".
Still waiting for Liam Lawson ☹️☹️
Next year in the AT.
He'll get there eventually, his having a good season at super formula why not get a championship there to boost confidence.
I think you are also overlooking that Tsunoda could possibly leave Alpha Tauri next year. After all he is a Honda junior and three years has usually been the magic number for Red Bull to cut loose drivers that don't quite look good enough for Red Bull. With Riccardo there they will be able to evaluate exactly where he is as well as possibly mentor him to prep him for that seat.
In my mind I wouldn't be surprised if he joined Honda at Aston Martin to replace Stroll. Having Riccardo in the seat now means they can not only bench the two drivers against each other, but potentially have a driver up and running ready to push and mentor Lawson if he does replace Tsunoda.
AM/Honda isn't until 2026 though
@@Miragexe doesn't mean that AM won't put him in place before hand especially as a show of faith to Honda.
Plus Stroll is a current problem. They will be wanting an upgrade sooner rather than later
Aston Martin isn’t firing Stroll, and if they do, it’s not for Tsunoda, that’s such an underwhelming signing. Honestly they should try tempting Leclerc from Ferrari
@@Javadamutt Don't think Papa Stroll will replace his son like that.
@@Miragexe Papa Stroll will have to choose between success and nepotism.
With Alonso's performances there will be enough pressure and reasons to replace him already within the team.
Add pressure from Honda who will also want success and potentially be looking for a young driver even if not Tsunoda.
Either way, Lance's days are numbered
18th comment still ahead of Latifi
This is much deeper than we all think, here is my honest opinion. In the first few races, Perez showed that he can handle Verstappen, and even be fast/er, what happened as soon as it became clear in the Red Bull team? Perez suddenly has all kinds of problems, and a few races later, this man can't pass Q3. RB knows that they will benefit much more with Verstappen than with Perez, that's why Perez is at the exit door, who doesn't see that, I don't know what to tell you... Ricciardo returns (very quickly) to RB in exchange for Perez. Perez wants to compete, but RB won't let him, it's crystal clear. Ricciardo has received all the instructions, you are going back to RB to do the work for us, read Verstappen. He is the only driver who has no problem accepting it because he has been up and down in his career, a very honest man, without a big ego, he accepts the task. That's the whole story behind this… Basically, it is obvious that Perez thinks he can compete with Verstappen for the first position. And RB doesn't want that, they don't need that "drama"... Their plan is, Max champ = next 10+ years.
I'd like to see a technical analysis where people in the know give us some thoughts of whether DR is likely to do well in the modern Red Bull. He's very limited in what cars suit him, he's no Alonso, but I have no clue whether DR can drive a Verstappen Red Bull?
He just did. and he obviously can. Just completed testing in the RB19 at silverstone and while its only rumours, he was quick(quick enough for P2 at silverstone rumours say). And there must be at least some truth to it because he's been parachuted straight into the AT seat.
@@maninjapan79 yes I know he probably can, given what's happening, but I'm saying I'd like to see one of those sort of breakdown videos
@@maninjapan79 and I call BS on P2
You mean a fast car with good braking, handling and traction? DR would love to drive that
People underestimate just how much of a mess the 2022 McLaren was, the team are just NOW getting to grips with fixing it’s design problems
I think it was said before that Ricciardo's strength is down to trail braking techniques - something that he absolutely mastered in Red Bull making him capable of doing overtakes where he often out-braked other drivers.
It's something that Renault initially didn't offered him but later on they started to fit his style, and McLarens simply just couldn't design a car around him to fit his trail braking style, making him looking a lot worse than he probably should be.
I'd argue he's got a similar "problem" as Vettel in a sense that both drivers heavily relied on a set of car characteristics to maximize its performance - something that only Max and Alonso is capable of extracting 100% regardless of the car's flaws or otherwise.
Let's hope AT04's brakes is a good one though. Yuki certainly did complain about it before.
You can't pretend DeVries should have gotten the same couple of season as other rookies to find his speed.
He's almost 30, had a whole career of racing all kinds of classes and honing his craft. He had to beat fresh-out-of-junior-categories Tsunoda. And when he didn't, he had to show that he's making progress to get to that point.
But he was just consistently slow and clumsy, with pretty much zero progress. They didn't hire him as a new fresh face that they invest several years into to mature his driving. They hired him under the premise of being a matured and complete racing veteran, who only needs to learn the controls of a different car. 10 races + pre-season testing later, and he was still slow and crash-happy.
It seems clear that this is a plan to evaluate Ricciardo further with a view to him moving back to the main team. I suspect that if Perez wasn’t still in second in the championship, Ricciardo may have may have been moved to the main team now in light of the rumoured very fast times he was setting in tyre testing. However, to drop Perez now means the team giving up getting the trifecta of first and second in the driver championship and the manufacturer championship. If Perez continues to fall behind too far and looks like missing second in the championship, I suspect they we’ll shift him out before the end of the year. They are ruthless in Red Bull.
Yuki and Daniel in a show together would be comedy gold.
Yuki, who's in first? I don't know...THIRD PLACE!
Netflix are so happy, they now have at least a few storylines for Season 6 of Drive to Survive.
We're about to find out if Daniel still has his mojo.
I don’t feel bad for NDV cuz honestly it seems a bit lucky that he even got his shot at a seat this year. He wasn’t on a career path that seemed to lead to f1 cuz of whatever assessment (right or wrong) teams had made about his abilities, and his pinch appearance at monza last year helped Helmut focus on a small sample size and think he would be a good addition. Hopefully he still got his contract paid out, but it just didn’t work. On to the next series for him
Danny is by far my favorite driver, and I really want to see him end up back in a top team, but I feel like there’s a reason why they didn’t want to put Lawson in the junior team. My thoughts are they probably feel that Daniel can bring important knowledge to the team and help with car setup. Also now that Honda signed a deal with Aston Martin, who knows if Yuki will be with the team for much longer, so Lawson could be planned to take his place.
Love to see Ricciardo race in Chillingbourne.
The REAL reason is that Alpha Tauri wants to sell more of their terrible clothes
All the best to everyone
I agree that it will be interesting to watch who sticks around now between Tsunoda and Ricciardo. Where do we think de Vries will head to?
Clear and truthfull video. Sad to see Nyck go but hey what can you do? Good luck to Daniel
I think it's better for Lawson to wait. It's more sensible to let him do pre season and start properly instead of throwing him into the liobs mid season..
I share your assessment of Helmet Marko’s selection process. I imagine he just thinks he’s “ruthless” but the amount of swaps and knee-jerks are getting embarrassing.
That's very true nobody wanted Nick DeVries and they made a knee-jerk reaction and signed him after One race and I'm super excited to see Danny Rick back on the grid with that giant smile
I want him to fail and I will laugh.
It’s not that the junior program is sputtering. It’s coz Dannyric is an amazing talent, in and out of the car, with boatloads of charisma and infectious energy, he outshines all the juniors and even half the current grid, is the #1 star of DTS, has massive global appeal… to not give him a seat in F1, would be like saying no to a second helping of your favorite meal to make room for tomorrow’s lunch.
He's gonna fail again, now it's Tsunoda's time to outperform him as MV, NH and LN did it to him in the past
Exactly.
I think its less about Ricciardo and moreso trying to see where Yuki is. If Yuki outperforms Ricciardo Yuki will have the seat in 2 Years and if its the other way around Yuki will be dropped for Lawson or Iwasa.
@@RoscOwO I think Yuki is gonna be dropped at the end of Honda's technical support to engines, no engine, no driver
Who tf is NH?
@@Duval-In-The-Wall Niko Huuuuuuulkenberrrgg 😒😒😒 🤣🤣🤣
I think they're bringing a known quantity like Ricciardo back to Alpha Tauri to sort of show prospective sponsors for next year that Alpha Tauri is a bankable team rather than let Nyck take his time to settle into a bad car. So if Ricciardo drives the wheels off this car along with Yuki's form and they grab a few points here and there, they become a more promising team for sponsors for next year when they have a plan of sticking closer to the parent team in terms of parts and design
He has long lost any ambition to be a top F1 driver. He'll be mediocre at best. Just drive to survive and get a paycheck.
You know what happens when you assume
Just disappointed that I didn't hear more race engineers say debris up ahead only for them to correct themselves and say De Vries.. Missed opportunity.
This is definitely pushed by the combination that Perez has been underperforming, and Ric actually did well in the test. If Perez was performing as expected, I doubt Ric would be on the grid right now.
All the talk in this video about how it was unfathomable for Red Bull to sign De Vries in the first place is so hypocritical on The Race’s part. You guys literally put out videos talking about how he had proved his skills with his Monza debut and that he was in-demand, especially at Williams. Stop pretending like you knew this was a bad choice for Red Bull.
That aside, I’m happy for Daniel and I hope he performs well; the grid needs him back.
I want to feel bad for De Vries, but after all the “he deserves a seat” hype, (which only accelerated after Monza last year) & the fact that he said he’d be the leader AT needed, (completely disregarding Tsunoda) you can’t be this unprepared. Being older than easily half the grid doesn’t help in a sport where youth is a priority either.
nearly spat out my coffee when I heard "the red bull conveyor belt" hahaha
Lawson is the heir apparent. If he wins SF this year he's a lock for Red Bull 2nd seat and then it's only a question of how Perez performs in early 2024. If RB thinks they will lose the WCC they will swap for Lawson. Otherwise, after Perez's contract is up after 2024 it's all Lawson barring unforeseen events.
I could careless where it’s at as long as Danny got a seat we’re here for it 🙌🏽 LFG
Why did he leave in the first place if his dream is to compete with Max at Red Bull? This won't end well.
RBR playing safe and getting a more experienced driver to move Alpha Tauri from the back to at least in the mid field and hopefully mid-top level. Good things are going to show up for Nyck.
It's tough on De Vryes. I hope that this car suits Riccardo, he looked dreadful in the McLaren.
I think there is a real chance Liam doesn't get this alpha tauri seat next year. It looks like Helmot Marko is hedging his bets with Iwasa and Lawson as they are both going incredibly well in their respective championships. May give them another year so they can make the right choice, as it looks like tsunoda is being backed in even though he is linked to Aston Martin
I'm sad for Nick. But well. Hopefully he does well. However, for RB, Riccardo will never replace Perez. Drivers have good and bad moments, Perez is currently on a bad one, but in general his consistency is good. Hopefully in 2 or 3 races he can have a good qualy, because when is Sunday, Perez always do well 👌
The race are so smart they should be running their own f1 team.
7:28 There are SIX juniors in F2? I can imagine the discussion for future F1 seats is far from heartwarming.
Crazy season is back 🎉
Ricciardo has so much star power, it's what is opening doors for him. If he was a wooden racer with 7 GP wins he wouldn't get the same red carpet... It's a marketing opportunity for both teams as well, win win win for them except De vrys.
Dr. Helmut Marko has said that Alpha Tauri will get a lot of changes coming its way, which include using as many Red Bull parts as regulation allows. So, it may have quite a strong car next year. I think that might be the main reason behind Daniel Ric taking the seat now.
3:37 gonna love those purple Mclarens 😂
Yep you hit the nail on the head. The Alpha gig is temporary until they kick out their second driver of the year. But if RIC performs poorly it will be the nail in his coffin
I think Ricciardo is meant to:
1. be properly evaluated
2. benchmark Tsunoda and
3. put some pressure on Perez.
It's a "to the end of the year to show what you got" situation, to clear up where everyone stands.
All to bring some clarity for Marko regarding all drivers currently under Red Bull contracts, to see where the puzzle pieces fit right now (except for Max abviously and Albon who remains pretty unaffected). It's all about obtaining the most knowledge considering all hypotheticals.
They want to know where Ricciardo really is and whether they could regain the force they once had with him, if they wanted to replace Perez. Tsunoda is in his third year and his perfomance looks good but only relatively. They want to know where his career could go because there ultimately are a lot of people in the junior pipeline, however, he doesn't quite look like they guy to replace Perez.
They didn't put in their juniors now because they want both of them to go out and make happen what they want: get the title, earn the seat. Iwasa and Lawson have shown some good performances but they haven't gone and taken it. Everyone else simply hasn't shown enough or isn't far enough up the ladder yet, dropping out of the equation for now.
It's a harsh treatment for De Vries but in the end, he knew, this was the deal he signed. He took it because of the included opportunities, knowing about the simultaneous risks that would balance them. He is 28 already, he was an F2 champion (albeit in a weak field), he was a FE champion - he has quite some experience outside of the big thing. Because of that he was adamant to not be treated as a rookie. He knew he would be evaluated in this way and he called for it and got the treatment according to the terms he and Red Bull had signed, simple as that.
The AT car will feel so bad straight after just driving the RB19 rocket ship car
Gotta disagree with one thing here:
The idea that De Vries didn't get a drive after his F2 title being down to a perceived lack of ability simply isn't true. He was sort of the original Piastri in the sense that he didn't have the money to make him irresistible, unlike Nicholas Latifi who got an F1 seat instead, but he did get signed to a driver program shortly there after. His opportunity was just one he had no choice but to wait for which is also similar to what Felipe Drugovich is facing right now; he might end up waiting just as long as De Vries did. Definitely a knee jerk reaction for Red Bull/AlphaTauri to sign Nyck, but the idea that there was writing on the wall about his ability is a bad take.