This is such a touching moment when the young officer offers to stay with the ship as it goes down. This movie, while mostly focusing on the American view of the war, took great pains to show how it looked to the Japanese. When I think of this movie, this is always the first scene that comes to mind. Beautiful and sad, well written, acted, filmed, and edited.
@@paddyjoe1884 tell that to zelensky when the us and uk offered him a way out he turned round both times and said i don't need a ride I need ammo I cannot see either the prime minister of the UK or the US president doing that
Couple of notes: 1) this scene missed one last moment that Yamaguchi actually passed the departing officer of his naval cap as parting gift. 2) the sailors that abandoned the ship was later scattered all over pacific islands since Japan was covering up the embarrassment back home so they don't want anyone to return to main land to deliver the bad news.
Shows how these men would die for there emperor and country and yet they wouldn’t be saved by the country they fought for still I don’t think any of the sailors would care because they were so indoctrinated by the emperor
Actually, the officer who was given the deck cap was higher ranking. The officer in the film is a LTJG, who was probably supposed to be RADM Yamaguchi's aide. The officer who received his deck cap was Carrier Division 2's Senior Staff Officer, CDR Ito Seiroku. The survivors of Midway were initially returned home to Japan before they were eventually reassigned to other posts. The wounded were quarantined aboard hospital ships Hikawa Maru (which survived the war and is currently a museum and hotel) and Takasago Maru. Many were KIA aboard other ships.
This is what is so good about this movie, because it goes into both sides of the theater. This very scene shows the light in one of the most inhuman armies and militaries in the world. Many movies show the Japanese as brutal enemies and only that, just monsters, which is partially true. I felt bad for the young officer who I felt saw Admiral Yamaguchi as a father figure, which is why we should stop hating for what they did and start forgiving. Let’s put the past behind us.
Please look up Lieutenant Commander Shunsako Kudo and the IJN Ikazuchi. Awesome Commander and leader. Also during Guadalcanal a IJN Sailor rescued Japanese and American sailors and pulled up alongside a USN ship asking for help. Admirals Ozawa and Kurita were both verbally moved by bravery of British and American Sailors and Aircrews. So many experiences are lost in history and it is always great and humbling to hear them.
The most sad part about this scene that we dont see is there are still sailors trapped under decks, just like the Kaga. They couldn't saved them so they haded to scuttle the ship.😢
A group from the engine room did manage to reach the flight deck the next morning. A Scout from one of the Light Carriers saw them and they were rescued.
@@alexravex4575 A lot of the engine room teams were trapped due to fires the cut off passageways and in a few instances heated the door so much that they could not be opened. This was common on ships suffering battle damage. Three engineers were trapped on the USS Yorktown. They were in contact with other crewmembers until the carrier sank.
"The loss of this battle falls on the heads of your commanders, not you... though when you get back to Japan, you'll be quarantines and shipped off to die to without seeing family first so we can keep this loss a secret, while the commanders won't be penalized at all."
I also found that one of the mechanic that survive from Hiryu actually end up at Iwo Jima and had been sent there since 1943. He work on fixing Zeroes and Ki-43 that occasionally land there for maintnance before being sent off to either Truk Island or Zuikaku/Shoukaku for their Solomon Islands Campaign. Throughout his life there, he had been bullied, spit on, force to overwork from his crewmate who thought that he is a coward and a failure for being part of the reason why Japan is losing the war at that point. When the American attack starts on February 1945. While he was using a machine gun to fend off the American attack at the beach. As per order of General Kuribayashi, the entire bunker defense line are to be abandon to fall back to the next line of defense around Mount Sarubachi. But his "friends" decide to use him as bait and lock the bunker door behind him from the outside, trapping him and leave him expose to enemy fire. A moment after that, a Sherman blast open the bunker but he miraculously survive with just a broken arm and some broken teeth and would be capture as a prisoner of war where the American would learn about who he was and how his life unfold since the Battle of Midway.
@@kaijuslayer3334 Japan went out of it's way to keep Midway a secret and lied about it all the way up until their defeat. Survivors were kept under strict silence orders and were sent to duty stations away from the mainland (which also happened to have pretty high death rates).
@@japs7424 That blame can be squarely placed on Chuichi Nagumo who was too prideful and stubborn to even consider the concept of being outsmarted/the Americans anticipating his plans. He was also the one who prioritized sinking battleships during the attack on Pearl Harbor instead of finding and sinking carriers and taking out the massive stocks of fuel. Destroying those would've crippled the USN in the Pacific far more than sinking a few old battleships and wrecking some planes. While a massive shock at first, the attack on Pearl Harbor wasn't as devestating as portrayed. Most ships could be recovered and brought back into action (i.e. the USS West Virginia, which mauled the IJN during the Battle of Leyte Gulf), ships like the USS Arizone being total write-offs.
@@japs7424There were actually two cases during the war games where someone did something “impossible” and won Midway as the Americans. Shattered Sword goes into a lot of detail about just how rigged the war games were
It's not clearly implied in the movie, but in reality the admirals took note of the possible American trap, and thus Nagumo was given strict orders to only use half of his bombers to attack Midway, while the other half stands by with naval weapons in case they spot the enemy fleet. Sadly Nagumo broke the order because he thought Midway was still a threat, allegedly because one of the American bombers almost crashed into his carrier's bridge.
@@alexanderlyon1215 He did break the order but it was a ridiculous order to begin with. Just stupid. Nagumo acted according to doctrine and did the reasonable thing. Also as you can read in shattered sword, it did not matter in the end. It was inconsequential as either rearming or not rearming would not have changed the outcome. The battle was lost by Yamamoto. Nagumo was a subpar commander but midway does not fall on him
@@parkerteo8708 In Singapore's Kranji War Cemetery, you can see the graves and headstones of both enlisted men and officers from various countries that fought against the Japanese invaders during WW2 Based on their DOB and date of death, many of them should have been in school instead of holding guns and dying so far from home. But they did, and for this we are eternally grateful to them.
*DarthAverage* I'm just over 50 and I still call 49 old. Even when I was just in my thirties, visiting war cemeteries at Normandy (not the American but a joint British - German cemetery), looking at how young those kids were who died in the ferocious fighting of the Bocage countryside... Most were 18 or 19. I saw a few headstones of 'old men,' who were 26 and 29.
This apparently did happen in the actual battle, with time lost as some Japanese commanders wanted to stay on their sinking ships, or at least make the gesture, as some were eventually persuaded not to. In contrast, when the Yorktown was sinking, everyone was like “just hurry up and get onto the next ship to keep fighting.” Kind of summarizes the whole war.
It did happen. The US was very lucky that Adm. Nagumo Chuichi was in charge of the Kido Butai at Midway and not Adm. Yamaguchi Tamon, who was a more aggressive commander and was an aviation minded flag officer who had a better handle on tactics.
@@scarymonsterrs It could have ended a bit differently. I'm not saying the Japanese would have won, but there might have been more losses on the American side. Just speculating given the relative differences of the commanders,
@mikeat2637 I personally think it wouldn't have made a difference. If the Japanese had attacked differently, the Americans would simply have reacted and adapted to changing situations accordingly. Throughout the whole Battle of Midway, and indeed the entire Pacific War, the Americans have shown they're able to nimbly and fluidly adjust to changing Japanese strategies (e.g. responding to kamikaze attacks, developing newer and better warplanes, reorganising their divisional structures)
@@ivan78174 You make a good point. When so many things are happenstance, such as Waldron going his own way on Stanhope Ring's flight to nowhere and its contribution of helping bring down the Zero CAP to where they couldn't respond, to the American dive bombers following the Japanese destroyer back to the Kido Butai for their fatal attack run, there are so many things that went just right for the USN that influenced the victory. That's why I hate the "What If" scenarios that pop up all over RUclips.
Soooo the funny thing is Admiral Yamaguchi had NO obligation to go down with the ship. He was an admiral, setting his flag on the ship, in command of other ships. It was Captain Kaku's expectation to look after all souls on the vessel. If the Flag officer was still on board, the captain cannot is good seafaring tradition leave the ship. He was therefore obligated by tradition to stay with the flag officer. Honestly kind of a dick move by Yamaguchi, as he basically guilted the captain to stay with him, and this is why he allows him to do so.
This is a typical Western people or Southeast Asian way of thinking, as they do not have a warrior culture. A country with a warrior culture like Japan doesn't think like you.
@Jure Herman I'm not sure about that. 1976 version did the best with what they had. These days, with ever present CGI, you can do pretty much anything you want but Hollywood simply doesn't care. I was laughing my ass off when i found out that the Navy endorsed this crap.
For those who said scuttling it was a waste. Do realize it was far away from any base. Heavily damaged possibly to the point of it would cost more than it's worth to repair it in resources, it is not combat capable, and there are fires aboard ship that can spread which could cause it to detonate. If she had been close to land and had more support they probably would have made a effort to save the ship but at this point its a liability.
The error was not retreating whenthe other 3 were taken out. Losing 2/3rds of Kido Butai was not recoverable. But if Hiriyu lived you still have half of it
@@paulrasmussen8953 the error was that they attacked anyway without doing some math. The 4 carriers in the Kido Butai that attacked Midway had about 260 aircraft. Midway itself had close to 130 aircraft, which means even 2 American carriers would have been able to fight on close to equal footing with the IJN. Added to that that there were orders to reserve half their aircraft to strike the American carriers, there just weren’t enough planes without the other 2 carriers to carry out the operation. They should have waited until at least one of the others was operational
@@randomminecraftplayer6857 mostnof modways planes were not suited for antiship. They should have broke policoy and allowed the air group of one carrier to transfer to the less damaged one. As is both sodes had to scrape together those final assaults
Say what you want about Admiral Yamaguchi,......but that's true leadership. First he absolves all his men for the disastrous Battle results. Then he decides to go down with the ship, in true Bushido fashion.
@@AgressorNation being from a family that has many people that served my personally opinion these distinctions matter whether the situation is informal or not. I made the mistake of calling a master sergeant a sergeant once. To put it lightly i got an ear full for that mistake and I wasn't in the service.
@@jasonparker4465 well as per Army Regs, a Master Sergeant is indeed adressed as a Sergeant. And I can tell you for a fact, that Rear Admirals are addressed simply as Admiral in informal settings.
@@huswefm they couldn’t save the ship because fires were spreading all over and was impossible to extinguish it plus they didn’t want to risk their ship being captured by the US Navy so their best way to them was to sink them to prevent it from falling into American hands
Admiral Yamaguchi and Captain Kaku going down with their ship shows vividly the sense of honor that Japanese naval officers had. Kaku clearly felt that if Yamaguchi was to go down as an 'atonement' for the loss of the battle, then he - as Hiryu's captain - needed to join him. Yamaguchi agreed with that logic.
“ The loss of the battle falls into the hands of the commanders, not you.” He’s right a lot of the axis powers the younger men were mostly just drawn into this and didn’t know how to combat it the only thing they knew was war and he’s exactly right
@@lyhthegreatThough unlike the Nazis, the Japanese had been like this culturally for centuries. That’s more understandable than an entire nation going from one of the most progressive nations of the 1920s to the most genocidal over the course of about 20 years because some crackhead wrote a book.
She fought to the very end and died as befitting a true samurai. She may have been our foe, but she and her men deserve nothing more than utmost respect. Sleep well Hiryu, say hello to Yorktown for us….
Sailors of all nations have the unique position of sharing the same grave. This makes even the enemy comrades in their eyes and why sailors from all sides went to great lengths to save sailors in the water. They knew that could easily be them on any other day.
@@jfangm Even if those said sailors committed war crimes? Look up what happened to Bruno Guido, The sailor Spruance promoted earlier that day for saving the Enterprise from a kamikaze bomber, those animals threw him over the side.
A culture of honor forged by centuries of Bushido warriors and Samurai. Hard to believe that this is the same country that would go on to produce Hello Kitty, Nintendo, and Sailor Moon.
It used to be that way in Japan, but honor is practically dead nowadays. In the old days, the leaders accepted real responsibility when they screwed up. Nowadays, nobody (Japanese bureaucrats/company leaders) wants to take responsibility and avoid accountability. It's all about saving face nowadays in Japan, so the leaders make their subordinates take the fall for them instead of manning up and doing the right thing. It's actually quite pathetic. I have been living in Japan for 18 years, so I see this pathetic behavior regularly here in the news.
Andrea doria's captain also wanted to but was persuaded by the crew not to, (looking at schenitoo or whatever that captain's name was of the costa concordia who was a coward)
@@ivangenov6782 if I remember correctly he was the fat "captain" who abandon the ship while dozen of passengers is still trapped inside right? But wasn't he got unpunished by the court because when he told to go back on board he actually came back?
@@EukalyptusBonBon no, he was getting scolded by the coast guard to go back on but he refused, also i never heard of him being unpunished so that's new
I like how the Japanese naval officer in charge of the destroyer's torpedoes grimly and even fanatically follows final orders. Target Hiryu bearing ninety degrees. YAAAAAAAH
“We must not let the enemy capture this ship!” America: “I mean... we got 24 new class carriers coming out soon as well as more ships so... we’re good.”
yeah that line was kinda dumb like the ship was already damaged af so idk why they thought america would want it. Maybe spirit or something but i respect it
The Philippines will at be your side as well, they seem to be building one their “islands” near Luzon and I’d hate to see my country fall into a more corrupt government and generally corrupt ideology.
@DiscordChaos hopefully it’ll be non-nuclear but I think the threat of it is to high. Then again NATO could attack Chinese holdings in Africa maybe but who knows
this shows the cruelty of war. young lives either gone or drastically changed. war is just a massive waste of life for leaders who care more about their pride and egos than the lives they're suppose to lead and protect
In case you did not know, one of the officers of the Hiryū was called Toshio Abe, he survived the attack by the aircraft carrier Hiryū, who later in 1944 was captain of the third twin of the yamato, the shinano aircraft carrier and he died in the sinking of the shinano after the attack of the uss submarine. ARCHERFISH
@@ssobergruppenfuhrerpeanut3674 I copied this from Wikipedia. These are the locations of surviving Balao-Class subs (same class as archerfish) USS Batfish (SS-310) at War Memorial Park in Muskogee, Oklahoma[42] USS Becuna (SS-319) at Independence Seaport Museum in Philadelphia[43] USS Bowfin (SS-287) at USS Bowfin Submarine Museum & Park in Honolulu[44] USS Clamagore (SS-343) at Patriot's Point in Mount Pleasant, South Carolina[45] USS Ling (SS-297) at New Jersey Naval Museum in Hackensack, New Jersey[46] USS Lionfish (SS-298) at Battleship Cove in Fall River, Massachusetts[47] USS Pampanito (SS-383) at San Francisco Maritime National Historical Park in San Francisco[48] USS Razorback (SS-394) at Arkansas Inland Maritime Museum in North Little Rock, Arkansas[49]
@@cheesedmacaroni Clamagore has sadly been scrapped. I fortunately got to tour her towards the end of her life, as sad as it was it was obvious her time had come.
I know it is their custom to fight to the death such as in banzai charges but I think if the Japanese did not do all of that they would have probably held out longer during the Pacific campaign and who knows, maybe they could have started to regain ground. General Kuribayashi is a great example on how not permitting banzai charges as a way to fight to the death was incredibly effective. Iwo Jima was supposed to fall in 5 days assuming Kuribayashi was like the other Japanese commanders and generals but with Kuribayashi’s leadership the Japanese held for 36 days. He also presumably led the final defense on Iwo Jima and was killed in action which in my opinion is probably more honorable than seppuku.
I agree. Analizing the data suicide attacks were way less effective than "conventional" fighting, even considering the famous Kamikaze, which were used mainly because they lacked trained pilots that didn´t even know how to land their planes (didn´t need to).
If we think about it, if there was less emphasis put on the Bushido code and Nationalism, Japan could’ve either held out until the Soviet’s and US put enough pressure or they could’ve relatively gone through the war unscathed and with the title of “Well we held out as long as we could”
But then again, it was this devotion to discipline and loyalty that made a tiny country like japan, deprived of natural resources, so formidable in the first place.
Contrary to the myth, Admiral Yamamoto Isoroku was still a believer in Battleship Supremacy, although he did recognize the potential of a/c carriers. When it came to carrier warfare, a master tactician he certainly was not, but his subordinate & close personal friend RADM Yamaguchi Tamon was. ADM Yamamoto would come to loath the desire of his best senior officers & his most elite pilots to “go down with the ship” after a setback or defeat. Though it wouldn’t have changed a thing about the outcome of the Pacific War, the carrier battles of late 1942 would’ve been considerably different & far more interesting w/ an ADM Yamaguchi commanding the carriers instead of an overly cautious ADM Nagumo.
Yamamoto was the master mind behind pearl harbor was assassinated when code breakers found out he was doing a tour of inspection planes with 50 cal machine guns shot him down he crashed on boughnsville island one of the Solomon Island the bullets struck him on the shoulder,neck and the back of his head as he crashed he got thrown off the seat killing him meant the US removed Japan's most important figure from the game a chief strategist in other words after pearl harbor he wrote in his diary I fear all we have done is awoken a sleeping giant and filled him with terrible resolve cause he knew Japan would lose from the start but his superiors were ignorent and they gambled to knock out the us fleet in one blow but what they didn't know was the air craft carriers which are important targets weren't there at the time and they didn't destroy the oil storage by doing a 3rd wave which is why the us recovered from the attack so soon.
When he heard that Akagi Kaga and Soryu were hit, he ordered the Hiryu to be used as bait to lure the American carriers close to his main battle fleet composing of 5 battleships including the newly constructed Yamato.
@@elmanco6885 Yep which is why they taught them to crash into fleet carriers instead after the battle at midway which was the turning point in the war the Japs didn't recover because it was the knockout blow that halted there ambitions so during the battle of the Philippines sea they got shot down by the US so easily cause the Japs only had basic training they called it the great marinas turkey shoot cause it was literally men against boys after that the US dominated the air and sea until the Japs were brought to there knees once and for all.
I deeply respect Admiral Yamaguchi and Captain Kaku here with choosing to go down with the Hiryu and her deceased crew members while the survivors are evacuated and transferred to the escort ships to be taken back to Japan, taking full responsibility for the Hiryu's destruction and loss of one of the carriers that launched the Pearl Harbor attack. The one young officer's plea to stay with them being politely refused by Yamaguchi makes it clear he wants his crew to live on and continue serving Emperor Hirohito loyally and faithfully in his honor and memory.
That young officer was also the same guy who made a tactical move in the wargame earlier on in the movie. He played as the USN fleet and ambushed Nagumo's fleet from the northeast of Midway, for which he was berated for since Nagumo was adament that the USN was incapable of reaching Midway from Pearl Harbour and won't see the IJN coming. He probably believed that it was partially his fault since he saw it coming and could have done something about it.
The sailors that abandoned the ship was later scattered all over pacific islands since Japan was covering up the embarrassment back home, so they don't want anyone to return to mainland to deliver the bad news.
@@johnburns9634 Good point. Don't want to cause a panic if they learn the Battle of Midway was a huge defeat for the IJN and leaves the home islands a lot more vulnerable.
Why? Because he charged like an idiot with 1 carrier vs 3 instead of opening the range to take advantage of his planes' superior range compared to American ones? That's probably what Ozawa would have done. Pity that by the time he got to command, the IJN was thoroughly overmatched in both numbers and quality by USN, courtesy of vastly superior US industry and resources. At the Philippine sea, US lost 25 planes to Japanese planes and AAA and 80 to Ozawa's tactics (and their own admirals' rashness).
@@VersusARCH well he is not ,because he try to sink US carrier at all cost alone, well just because US Carrier more better it not sink easily, but if US Carrier same Quality with Japanese Carrier, USS Yorktown already Sink.
@@VersusARCH Yamaguchi made the decision based on the information at the time that Americans had 2 carriers and it was determined that it is still possible to fight on its own with Hiryu's planes. Disrespect is the weapon of the weak -- Alice Miller
I love this film and how accurate it is, I saw this film right after visiting Pearl Harbor, I'm also happy that this film didn't dehumanize the Japanese, like every other war film loves to dehumanize the Germans and the Japanese, both were human beings and its disrespectful
I have learned that all Japanese carriers were destroyed here at the Midway battle, but I didn't know this part where Hiryu and its commanding officer went down by being torpedoed
All four of the carriers were scuttled with torpedos, sounds like Soryu and Kaga were seriously fucked fast, while the Akagi and Hiryu they fiercely fought to save them for quite a few hours. The Hiryu took several hours after being torpedoed to fully sink, tough ships but not tough enough.
Captain Aoki was the only Carrier Captain to survive. He also attempted to go down with his ship but was forcefully removed. Kaga's was killed by explosions and Soryu's Captain jumped into the fire after suffering horrible burns during the attack.
The officer who made this request was not a Lieutenant Junior Grade as seen in the film. He was CDR Ito Seiroku, Senior Staff Officer of Carrier Division 2. RADM Yamaguchi removed his cap and gave it to Ito as a keepsake. IIRC it is now on display in the Kure Maritime Museum.
I have the feeling that the directors of Midway took Tora Tora Tora as a “inspiration” how to make this movie, by showing both sides the US and Japanese, also showing that the Japanese were humans too instead of an “evil” enemy.
@@BananaPhoPhilly IJN were not saints either. Some pilots were captured then thrown overboard. Some good and some bad. The same is true for the IJA. Many bad and some just regular soldiers just fighting for their country. Many were scared too.
Tora! Tora! Tora! was great in portraying the events, POVs from both sides. It still is the best movie about the Pearl Harbor attack. An older WWII movie that did very well in showing the view from multiple sides is The Longest Day. For as many nationalities they gave time for in that movie, it was a damn good job in making it all work out very well.
@@BananaPhoPhilly There's a lot of very dirty things that everyone was doing in the Pacific if you start digging hard enough into the history. I'm not talking about what Marines and Imperial Japanese Army were doing to each other, there's a lot of terrible things that were going on in the seas out there. At Midway, one of the Japanese Destroyers picked up a US Navy pilot out of the water. They tortured, interrogated him to get information about the US Carriers, and then tied weights around him and threw him overboard. There was an IJN Submarine that had sunk a Commonwealth transport. The submarine picked up some survivors, gathered them on the deck, tied them together and submerged the submarine while they were still bound. A few of them survived and got picked up by the Allies, that's how they knew of the incident. In the Battle of the Bismarck Sea, a Japanese convoy of 8 transport ships loaded with reinforcement soldiers bound for New Guinea, were escorted by 8 Destroyers. They were swamped by repeated Australian and American air force bombers, sinking all 8 transports and half the escorting Destroyers. The brutality started when one of the American B-17s were shot down, the crew bailed out, and the Zero pilots started shooting them while in their parachutes. American PT Boats would later get into the areas where the transports, Destroyers were sunk, attacking, shooting men in the water and life rafts, as well as disrupting rescue attempts. The Japanese were very brutal and that brutality was returned in kind. This is very different with say, how the Western Allies fought the European Axis forces. War is hell and all, but when British, American, etc. surrendered to the Italians or Germans, they'd be treated decently. Same thing vice versa. The Pacific and Eastern front though, it wasn't like that, it was brutal and a lot of cruelty was going on. Bro, then there's the stuff that was going on in China. China had been at war with Japan years before the attack on Pearl Harbor drew the US into the conflict. Events in China had long been out of control, it was a bloodbath there. What the Japanese were doing in China was actually what got the United States into a downward spiral in relations with Japan, as it protested heavily with actions going on in China. It was that bad there.
I hope Hiryu will be found in the future. She, Soryu are the last two carrier that still need to be found. Two other ships lost at Midway that not been found yet are the Mogami class cruiser Mikuma and the destroyer USS Hammann which was torpedoed by the submarine I-168 while attempting to save USS Yorktown.
Tbh those and rms naronic are some of the ships I’d love to be discovered and see the wrecks of the most And I’d love for the us navy to one day post footage of USS America’s wreck
I got emotional to this scene. It changed my look on the Japanese during ww2. Yes, they were cruel to enemies but they fought for their country and their lives. As an American of the next generation, I forgive the Japanese. And I can only hope god gives mercy on those who fought bravely. May the dead rest in paradise. 🙏🏻✝️
@@baseplate7566 There were many Japanese Navy officers who perpetrated war crimes, not just the Japanese Army. But I agree that the regular serviceman, who was just following orders, cannot be blamed because those things happened also on the Allied side. Not as numerous as the Japanese atrocities but enough. Like the Laconia Incident.
At least your trying to forgive and forget my country on the other hand faught against the nazis and now our country is ran by them reducing free speech laws getting jailed for 7 years if you offend someone oh and don't forget about jail time for calling the first minister a nazi
@@Thor_Odinson Their war crimes were similar to those done by many other peoples, just from earlier time periods. The Rape of Nanking was no different than how Vikings, Mongols, Romans treated ANY city they SACKED. The Scots when they sacked the English city of York. The Native Americans inter tribal wars before the white men arrived were horrendous and genocidal (entire tribal nations were exterminated by larger more powerful tribal nations, etc). There are tons of historical examples of depraved and cruel acts by conquerors. The issue is that Japan was a medieval people, thrust into the modern age in a few generations. Hell, even the Red Army and the Wehrmacht did horrendous things to the people they conquered. Do you excuse them?
MIDWAY -1942 & NOW! It was June the 4th 1942, As I was floating in the ocean alone The ship I had sailed on, sank to the bottom And I thought I would never again, see home. The Japanese fleet had steamed in from the east With the intentions of capturing Midway. Though they were stopped by American war ships Whose guns, bombs and torpedoes planes saved the day. All night long, I watched the fireworks of war And on the second day we turned up the heat. As big bombers from Hawaii dropped their loads On Japanese ships who soon chose to retreat. An imperial pilot came floating close by Who had been chewed on by the beasts of the sea. I couldn't help but feel passion for this is man Who had answered his call just like me. When it was over, I was plucked from the deep By men in a lifeboat just after the dawn. For two days I had watched the battle for, Midway Now it's quiet and the enemy has gone. It’s not a priest that gives us our freedom of religion And it’s not a reporter that gives us our freedom of voice. It’s not any judge, lawyer, politician, preacher or teacher But the blood of a soldier that has sacrificed by choice. THANK YOU FOR WHO YOU ARE IN YOUR HEART ! By Tom Zart Google = Most Published Poet Tom’s 1,650 Poems Are Free To Share! Google = George Bush Tom Zart
Remember that many of these men were commanded by the emperor to fight and, to them the emperor was always right. A lot of them were really evil, people but not all of them some just wanted honour and happiness for their families and country, and very few people deserve to burn alive onboard a sinking carrier
I agree that they wanted honor and happiness for their family and country. And the emperor was a sort of symbol, and it was the government that actually commanded. It is same as "freedom" doesn't command US solidier to fight.
The Japanese soldiers were notorious for committing incredibly evil acts with surprising regularity, the Rape of Nanjing being one of the most famous examples. They were also known to use human shields, eat POWs alive, torture people to death, rape, convince locals to commit suicide if they are about to be taken over by the US, etc.
The death of Tamon yamaguchi was not necessary. He was not wounded and will have been probably more important alive than dead. He was a so good admiral that his decision his only understandable in a perfect adoption of Bushido code. He has not failed, because he cause serious damages to uss fleet with extremely limited forces. He had done his job. He was one a the rare person who had doubt about the rule of carrier in the MI operation (two targets-Midway and provoke the american fleet to go out and offer the possibility to destroy with enormous battleships like Yamato (what were in this battle totally useless)).
If only they understood that their experience would be very needed later on. The lack of experience in the IJN in terms of pilots and sailors made a huge difference
The worst part is even when they hit the hiryu with 3 torpedoes, in real life it still took an hour before she sank. The crew did so good with damage control they they had sealed a lot of the water tight compartments, but the engines were out, the water maines were cut in midship so they couldn't fight the fires anymore. But she still held on to be sunk. The curse of the yukikaze raged the entire war and beyond.
Shame the movie didn't show it (Probably because of some bias for the Americans), but Hiryu as the sole surviving Japanese carrier in the battle of Midway attacked twice, and those two attacks are considered to be one of the most coordinated carrier strikes in the war. If they didn't mistake the Yorktown for another carrier since it got repaired so quickly, Hiryu would've sunk or at least badly damage two carriers alone. It and admiral Yamaguchi eventually went down in battle like true warriors
Yamaguchi was a brilliant carrier tactician who robbed the IJN of his considerable talents by stupidly going down with his ship. Admiral Yamamoto was rumored to mark his loss as equally harmful to the IJN as that of the 4 carriers.
Rear Adm. Yamaguchi had the best tactics but to overriden by Adm. Nagumo who failed to launch the crucial torpedo planes(ordered to replaced its Land Bombs to Torpedos) despite the pleadings of Rear Adm. Yamaguchi and cost them time and the battle overall.
@@notSoSmthOptr Yes, Yamaguchi rightly wanted to attack the American carriers right away with the land weapons. Who is to say what it may have changed in the battle. Japan would still have lost the war but it could have lasted longer and been far more costly in lives lost.
@@bodasactra since all 3 US carriers had wooden decks it might have worked with contact bombs. It worked for the US. Still though even if the IJN got all 3 US carriers if it cost 2-4 carriers themselves then it’s a wash and without those carriers the IJN really can’t go on the offensive anymore. The entire Midway battle was fought wrong by the IJN. Their real strength was in their surface ships and they should have just put their surface ships up front and used all their battleships including Yamato at Midway and just use their carriers for CAP. The IJN battleships perhaps 5 of them including Yamato would just shell Midway. Had they used this strategy they may have been able to sink all 3 US carriers and not receive any damage to their own carriers. The irony of this is that while the IJN didn’t necessarily know the US wouldn’t have been able to cause much damage to any of the IJN battleships. The US mainly only had contact bombs themselves and their torpedos were junk.
After Yamaguchi went down with the Hiryu, Yamamoto issued an order that no more commanders were to go down with their ships. Yamaguchi was a great mind lost. Had he lived, he may have taken over when Yamamoto was killed in 1943.
The Japanese military especially then were many things. Probably many bad things, but. There is one thing they were almost never not. Brave, and that must be respected.
The crews and officers of the carriers were scattered all over the pacific after the battle. They did this to keep the news of the defeat from reaching the home islands. Most of them died in combat.
I find it interesting that despite our (humanity) different starting points in ancient history, we all seem to agree on that a Captain should go down with his ship.
The 1976 Midway is available (here) on YT but you have to rent it. Turner Classic Movies (TCM) shows it once in awhile. They might be playing it on Veterans Day.
Yamaguchi had two opportunities to save Hiryu: during the first catastrophic dive bomber attack on Kido Butai in the morning, by turning out of US carriers effective range. But no, he joined the cruisers and battleships advancing on the known position of TF16/17. Later that day, damaged as Hiryu was, the engines and steering gear were still intact. Av fuel and munitions were low, so there was no unquenchable fire. It was the elevator blown up against the island that was the breaking point. Classic case of the prize fighter with the delicate glas jaw.
Maybe. I read that Hiryu's damage control teams had almost reached the engine rooms to save their ship and restore power. Those teams (as on the other Imperial carriers that day) would stay at their posts to the last man and suffocate, rather than give up.
Also, Hiryu's fires were not as devastating as they were on Soryu and Kaga. After 3 attacks during morning and afternoon, the magazines were nearly empty of munitions and the supply of av gas was nearly gone. Damage was about the same as later happened to Bunker Hill and Franklin. It only required a more resourceful crew to get the ship home. Yamaguchi's mad need to attack at all costs was what doomed the ship.
Axis leaders were evil. The poor sobs on the ground mostly deserve sympathies. Nazi had to implement the concentration camp and gas chambers because a lot of soldiers couldn't bring themselves to slaughter Jews/gypsies/etc.
@@theknightwiththen-wordpass7084 The LEADERS were evil. A huge number of the young men who fought and died were DRAFTED and conscripted into service. You can have sympathy for the average guy who was conscripted into service to 'serve his government'. Even with Nazi Germany, many of the young German soldiers Mid war to late war were drafted into service, whether they agreed with the German Government's positions or not. When people get older, they begin to see the difference between a GOVERNMENT being evil and it's own people. Now the people believe the propaganda of the government, but that's not their fault. that's what propaganda does.
did they do some research before shooting this scene? from 2 torpedoes that were fired from makigumo only 1 torpedo that hit hiryu because the other one missed hiryu just below the ship
some are changes to make the scene more visually appealing. there were a number of much bigger mistakes in the movie this was one of the more minor ones.
@@divi02_editz just look up what the Japanese navy and army did in China Was so bad the lead naz* officer in China complained to moustache man about how brutal they were
IJN > IJA change my mind. It's crazy to think how different this war could of gone were it not for the sheer disparity between the US military's industry and resources compared to Japan's. If the IJN could have churned out endless waves of carriers like the USN could, then we might all be speaking Japanese right now.
tht was the issue for japan/germany/italy. 3 small countries with limited manpower/equipment/industrial capacity vs 3 titans england/russia/usa. usa alone could've taken germany/japan/italy..... but russia and usa that's overkill.
yeah nah,if japan,germany or axis the one who win,rather than speaking japanese/german we are more likely to die,lets be real,USA and allies is no good,but compared to axis?? well believe it or not,this is the case where those so called "fate/destiny" that usually will go for the "good guy" and not the bad guy actually works,thank god for that.
@@joeswanson733 wouldn't call england a titan, after they've lost most of their colonial territories..america was a true beast at churning out war machines while Russia won because of general winter.
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The younger officer must have been feeling so guilty about the defeat. He must be feeling, "if only i had pressed my case stronger during that wargame with Nagumo."
Its so sad. The worst part is the destoyer firing the torpedo at hiryu and one crewmember wanted to go down with the ship but was was stopped by the admiral itself.😰😰😰😰😰😰😰😰😰😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
If you read the book "Fading Victory" by Matome Ugaki...it will give a very picture how Yamaguchis death affected the Imperial fleet, Isoroku Yamamoto and the war for Japan.
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This is such a touching moment when the young officer offers to stay with the ship as it goes down. This movie, while mostly focusing on the American view of the war, took great pains to show how it looked to the Japanese. When I think of this movie, this is always the first scene that comes to mind. Beautiful and sad, well written, acted, filmed, and edited.
One officer is for the movie scene, MANY officers ask to go down with the ship.......Yamaguchi refuse.
Stark contrast to today's politicians, who'd climb in the lifeboat first and tell everybody else to stay
@@alejandrocasalegno1657 Tbh that captain would be expected to commit suicide after such a humiliating loss.
Who was that young officer because to me the way he was looking at him made me think that he saw the captain as a father figure
@@paddyjoe1884 tell that to zelensky when the us and uk offered him a way out he turned round both times and said i don't need a ride I need ammo I cannot see either the prime minister of the UK or the US president doing that
Tadanobu Asano(who played Adm. Yamaguchi) also played Capt. Nagata in Battleship. Wow, from losing his Destroyer to losing a carrier.
Failing upwards
Right! I bet Hopper who wasn’t humility would said something like: Good riddance!
Just like Ken Watanabe's Katsumoto & Kuribayashi arc.. From losing his last samurais to losing Iwo Jima
What can ya say? The man knows how to lose his shit.
and he's now in the new Shogun. love that dude.
Couple of notes: 1) this scene missed one last moment that Yamaguchi actually passed the departing officer of his naval cap as parting gift. 2) the sailors that abandoned the ship was later scattered all over pacific islands since Japan was covering up the embarrassment back home so they don't want anyone to return to main land to deliver the bad news.
Shows how these men would die for there emperor and country and yet they wouldn’t be saved by the country they fought for still I don’t think any of the sailors would care because they were so indoctrinated by the emperor
Just being curious, what’s the character name of ur icon?
@@tomawells.s your mom
Well if they include the first note in the scene, it would've make a very touching one
Actually, the officer who was given the deck cap was higher ranking. The officer in the film is a LTJG, who was probably supposed to be RADM Yamaguchi's aide. The officer who received his deck cap was Carrier Division 2's Senior Staff Officer, CDR Ito Seiroku.
The survivors of Midway were initially returned home to Japan before they were eventually reassigned to other posts. The wounded were quarantined aboard hospital ships Hikawa Maru (which survived the war and is currently a museum and hotel) and Takasago Maru. Many were KIA aboard other ships.
This is what is so good about this movie, because it goes into both sides of the theater. This very scene shows the light in one of the most inhuman armies and militaries in the world. Many movies show the Japanese as brutal enemies and only that, just monsters, which is partially true. I felt bad for the young officer who I felt saw Admiral Yamaguchi as a father figure, which is why we should stop hating for what they did and start forgiving. Let’s put the past behind us.
Yes, put the past behind us. But definitely not forget the past. We should learn as much as we can about the past and learn from it.
Please look up Lieutenant Commander Shunsako Kudo and the IJN Ikazuchi. Awesome Commander and leader. Also during Guadalcanal a IJN Sailor rescued Japanese and American sailors and pulled up alongside a USN ship asking for help. Admirals Ozawa and Kurita were both verbally moved by bravery of British and American Sailors and Aircrews. So many experiences are lost in history and it is always great and humbling to hear them.
Calvin Lee can you provide me with a link to these events
I understand we have NOTHING against currently living Japanese. It was their grandfathers who did all the brutalities of WW2.
The Red Baron VS Midway
The most sad part about this scene that we dont see is there are still sailors trapped under decks, just like the Kaga. They couldn't saved them so they haded to scuttle the ship.😢
A group from the engine room did manage to reach the flight deck the next morning. A Scout from one of the Light Carriers saw them and they were rescued.
How were they "trapped"? Isn't supposed that all ships have stairs that conect directly the upper decks with the lower ones like a building?
@@alexravex4575 maybe they broke idk
@@alexravex4575 bombs broke the staircases, rest of them burned and it’s kinda impossible find your way in anything there
@@alexravex4575 A lot of the engine room teams were trapped due to fires the cut off passageways and in a few instances heated the door so much that they could not be opened. This was common on ships suffering battle damage. Three engineers were trapped on the USS Yorktown. They were in contact with other crewmembers until the carrier sank.
"The loss of this battle falls on the heads of your commanders, not you... though when you get back to Japan, you'll be quarantines and shipped off to die to without seeing family first so we can keep this loss a secret, while the commanders won't be penalized at all."
The young officer next works for other carrier ijn shinano
It's a tradition to scuttle the damaged ship so it can't be taken by enemy
That just sounds like a normal military moment.
Admiral Yamaguchi not being there to protect his men was tragic. Admiral Ineoye did this after he was relieved.
I also found that one of the mechanic that survive from Hiryu actually end up at Iwo Jima and had been sent there since 1943. He work on fixing Zeroes and Ki-43 that occasionally land there for maintnance before being sent off to either Truk Island or Zuikaku/Shoukaku for their Solomon Islands Campaign. Throughout his life there, he had been bullied, spit on, force to overwork from his crewmate who thought that he is a coward and a failure for being part of the reason why Japan is losing the war at that point. When the American attack starts on February 1945. While he was using a machine gun to fend off the American attack at the beach. As per order of General Kuribayashi, the entire bunker defense line are to be abandon to fall back to the next line of defense around Mount Sarubachi. But his "friends" decide to use him as bait and lock the bunker door behind him from the outside, trapping him and leave him expose to enemy fire. A moment after that, a Sherman blast open the bunker but he miraculously survive with just a broken arm and some broken teeth and would be capture as a prisoner of war where the American would learn about who he was and how his life unfold since the Battle of Midway.
@@kaijuslayer3334 Japan went out of it's way to keep Midway a secret and lied about it all the way up until their defeat. Survivors were kept under strict silence orders and were sent to duty stations away from the mainland (which also happened to have pretty high death rates).
I felt for that young oficer. He probably thought it was his fault, because he had an idea that this could happen, even if it was discarded.
In the war game, this is exactly what he did (playing as the american) but the seniors cannot take it and does not believed this senario could happen.
@@japs7424 That blame can be squarely placed on Chuichi Nagumo who was too prideful and stubborn to even consider the concept of being outsmarted/the Americans anticipating his plans. He was also the one who prioritized sinking battleships during the attack on Pearl Harbor instead of finding and sinking carriers and taking out the massive stocks of fuel. Destroying those would've crippled the USN in the Pacific far more than sinking a few old battleships and wrecking some planes. While a massive shock at first, the attack on Pearl Harbor wasn't as devestating as portrayed. Most ships could be recovered and brought back into action (i.e. the USS West Virginia, which mauled the IJN during the Battle of Leyte Gulf), ships like the USS Arizone being total write-offs.
@@japs7424There were actually two cases during the war games where someone did something “impossible” and won Midway as the Americans. Shattered Sword goes into a lot of detail about just how rigged the war games were
It's not clearly implied in the movie, but in reality the admirals took note of the possible American trap, and thus Nagumo was given strict orders to only use half of his bombers to attack Midway, while the other half stands by with naval weapons in case they spot the enemy fleet.
Sadly Nagumo broke the order because he thought Midway was still a threat, allegedly because one of the American bombers almost crashed into his carrier's bridge.
@@alexanderlyon1215
He did break the order but it was a ridiculous order to begin with. Just stupid. Nagumo acted according to doctrine and did the reasonable thing.
Also as you can read in shattered sword, it did not matter in the end. It was inconsequential as either rearming or not rearming would not have changed the outcome. The battle was lost by Yamamoto.
Nagumo was a subpar commander but midway does not fall on him
1:05 -- Yamaguchi says, "...you young men must leave the ship."
Yamaguchi was only 49 when he fought in the Battle of Midway.
Considering that many of his enlisted men and officers would have been in their 20s, he was old enough to have been their father
Yes but that officer looked like he was fresh out of high school
@@parkerteo8708
In Singapore's Kranji War Cemetery, you can see the graves and headstones of both enlisted men and officers from various countries that fought against the Japanese invaders during WW2
Based on their DOB and date of death, many of them should have been in school instead of holding guns and dying so far from home.
But they did, and for this we are eternally grateful to them.
@@SoranPryde oh wow very interesting! Thanks for sharing :)
*DarthAverage* I'm just over 50 and I still call 49 old.
Even when I was just in my thirties, visiting war cemeteries at Normandy (not the American but a joint British - German cemetery), looking at how young those kids were who died in the ferocious fighting of the Bocage countryside...
Most were 18 or 19.
I saw a few headstones of 'old men,' who were 26 and 29.
This apparently did happen in the actual battle, with time lost as some Japanese commanders wanted to stay on their sinking ships, or at least make the gesture, as some were eventually persuaded not to. In contrast, when the Yorktown was sinking, everyone was like “just hurry up and get onto the next ship to keep fighting.” Kind of summarizes the whole war.
It did happen. The US was very lucky that Adm. Nagumo Chuichi was in charge of the Kido Butai at Midway and not Adm. Yamaguchi Tamon, who was a more aggressive commander and was an aviation minded flag officer who had a better handle on tactics.
@@mikeat2637And then what would have happened?
@@scarymonsterrs It could have ended a bit differently. I'm not saying the Japanese would have won, but there might have been more losses on the American side. Just speculating given the relative differences of the commanders,
@mikeat2637 I personally think it wouldn't have made a difference. If the Japanese had attacked differently, the Americans would simply have reacted and adapted to changing situations accordingly. Throughout the whole Battle of Midway, and indeed the entire Pacific War, the Americans have shown they're able to nimbly and fluidly adjust to changing Japanese strategies (e.g. responding to kamikaze attacks, developing newer and better warplanes, reorganising their divisional structures)
@@ivan78174 You make a good point. When so many things are happenstance, such as Waldron going his own way on Stanhope Ring's flight to nowhere and its contribution of helping bring down the Zero CAP to where they couldn't respond, to the American dive bombers following the Japanese destroyer back to the Kido Butai for their fatal attack run, there are so many things that went just right for the USN that influenced the victory. That's why I hate the "What If" scenarios that pop up all over RUclips.
-"I wish to stay with you" -"Very well" - (Oh man I thought he was going to refuse, I am such an idiot)
hahaahaha too late.
Soooo the funny thing is Admiral Yamaguchi had NO obligation to go down with the ship. He was an admiral, setting his flag on the ship, in command of other ships. It was Captain Kaku's expectation to look after all souls on the vessel. If the Flag officer was still on board, the captain cannot is good seafaring tradition leave the ship. He was therefore obligated by tradition to stay with the flag officer. Honestly kind of a dick move by Yamaguchi, as he basically guilted the captain to stay with him, and this is why he allows him to do so.
This is a typical Western people or Southeast Asian way of thinking, as they do not have a warrior culture. A country with a warrior culture like Japan doesn't think like you.
One of the best and most poignant scenes in this film.
Considering how shitty this movie was in the first place, that's not too much.
The movie is decent, ngl
@Jure Herman It's OK for regular viewers but not for a history geek. Just like "Pearl Harbor" was.
@Jure Herman So you're not bothered by glaring mistakes this movie made, I guess. I was furious after first couple of minutes.
@Jure Herman I'm not sure about that. 1976 version did the best with what they had. These days, with ever present CGI, you can do pretty much anything you want but Hollywood simply doesn't care. I was laughing my ass off when i found out that the Navy endorsed this crap.
For those who said scuttling it was a waste. Do realize it was far away from any base. Heavily damaged possibly to the point of it would cost more than it's worth to repair it in resources, it is not combat capable, and there are fires aboard ship that can spread which could cause it to detonate. If she had been close to land and had more support they probably would have made a effort to save the ship but at this point its a liability.
The error was not retreating whenthe other 3 were taken out. Losing 2/3rds of Kido Butai was not recoverable. But if Hiriyu lived you still have half of it
@@paulrasmussen8953 the error was that they attacked anyway without doing some math. The 4 carriers in the Kido Butai that attacked Midway had about 260 aircraft. Midway itself had close to 130 aircraft, which means even 2 American carriers would have been able to fight on close to equal footing with the IJN. Added to that that there were orders to reserve half their aircraft to strike the American carriers, there just weren’t enough planes without the other 2 carriers to carry out the operation. They should have waited until at least one of the others was operational
@@randomminecraftplayer6857 mostnof modways planes were not suited for antiship. They should have broke policoy and allowed the air group of one carrier to transfer to the less damaged one. As is both sodes had to scrape together those final assaults
@@paulrasmussen8953 trash English but I kinda get it. Pretty sure all of Midway’s planes did attack them anyway though
@@randomminecraftplayer6857 replying on tje phone.
Say what you want about Admiral Yamaguchi,......but that's true leadership. First he absolves all his men for the disastrous Battle results. Then he decides to go down with the ship, in true Bushido fashion.
If the ship and his crew is his responsibility, then he feels he should pay the price.
Rear Admiral
@@jasonparker4465 there’s nothing wrong with referring to a Rear Admiral, as Admiral. I wasn’t addressing him in a formal situation.
@@AgressorNation being from a family that has many people that served my personally opinion these distinctions matter whether the situation is informal or not. I made the mistake of calling a master sergeant a sergeant once. To put it lightly i got an ear full for that mistake and I wasn't in the service.
@@jasonparker4465 well as per Army Regs, a Master Sergeant is indeed adressed as a Sergeant. And I can tell you for a fact, that Rear Admirals are addressed simply as Admiral in informal settings.
That final salute between the admiral and the young officer... damn
They committed "Seppuku" in a navy way by using their own torpedoes instead of swords...
I didn’t know that
It's a normal way to scuttle a ship.
What a waste of torpedos tho
@@huswefm 1 torp would of done it
@@huswefm they couldn’t save the ship because fires were spreading all over and was impossible to extinguish it plus they didn’t want to risk their ship being captured by the US Navy so their best way to them was to sink them to prevent it from falling into American hands
Admiral Yamaguchi and Captain Kaku going down with their ship shows vividly the sense of honor that Japanese naval officers had. Kaku clearly felt that if Yamaguchi was to go down as an 'atonement' for the loss of the battle, then he - as Hiryu's captain - needed to join him. Yamaguchi agreed with that logic.
あなたの言ったことは本当です
“ The loss of the battle falls into the hands of the commanders, not you.” He’s right a lot of the axis powers the younger men were mostly just drawn into this and didn’t know how to combat it the only thing they knew was war and he’s exactly right
just like the nazis
@@lyhthegreatThough unlike the Nazis, the Japanese had been like this culturally for centuries. That’s more understandable than an entire nation going from one of the most progressive nations of the 1920s to the most genocidal over the course of about 20 years because some crackhead wrote a book.
She fought to the very end and died as befitting a true samurai. She may have been our foe, but she and her men deserve nothing more than utmost respect. Sleep well Hiryu, say hello to Yorktown for us….
Sailors of all nations have the unique position of sharing the same grave. This makes even the enemy comrades in their eyes and why sailors from all sides went to great lengths to save sailors in the water. They knew that could easily be them on any other day.
@@jfangm Its callded (Japanese say)飛竜 "Hiryuh" it's meening "Frying Dragon" =12wings Angel=Lucifer
@satocchins
Well, those were definitely words. What you actually meant to do with them is a mystery, though.
@@jfangm
Even if those said sailors committed war crimes? Look up what happened to Bruno Guido, The sailor Spruance promoted earlier that day for saving the Enterprise from a kamikaze bomber, those animals threw him over the side.
You must be a liberal.
A culture of honor forged by centuries of Bushido warriors and Samurai. Hard to believe that this is the same country that would go on to produce Hello Kitty, Nintendo, and Sailor Moon.
To be honest, I've never seen the whole thing from this perspective. A good note.
Japanese pop culture was already doing some weird things even in the 1920s and 1930s
It used to be that way in Japan, but honor is practically dead nowadays. In the old days, the leaders accepted real responsibility when they screwed up. Nowadays, nobody (Japanese bureaucrats/company leaders) wants to take responsibility and avoid accountability. It's all about saving face nowadays in Japan, so the leaders make their subordinates take the fall for them instead of manning up and doing the right thing. It's actually quite pathetic. I have been living in Japan for 18 years, so I see this pathetic behavior regularly here in the news.
"The captain goes down with the ship" tradition: *Exist*
IJN: Its free real Seppuku
Andrea doria's captain also wanted to but was persuaded by the crew not to, (looking at schenitoo or whatever that captain's name was of the costa concordia who was a coward)
@@ivangenov6782 if I remember correctly he was the fat "captain" who abandon the ship while dozen of passengers is still trapped inside right? But wasn't he got unpunished by the court because when he told to go back on board he actually came back?
@@EukalyptusBonBon no, he was getting scolded by the coast guard to go back on but he refused, also i never heard of him being unpunished so that's new
@@EukalyptusBonBon No, he was sentenced to 16 years for negligence, and involuntary manslaughter.
I like how the Japanese naval officer in charge of the destroyer's torpedoes grimly and even fanatically follows final orders.
Target Hiryu bearing ninety degrees.
YAAAAAAAH
“We must not let the enemy capture this ship!”
America: “I mean... we got 24 new class carriers coming out soon as well as more ships so... we’re good.”
@@BlindDriver True but it was more than likely gonna be used as a test target for bombers or be destroyed by a nuclear bomb like Nagato.
yeah that line was kinda dumb like the ship was already damaged af so idk why they thought america would want it. Maybe spirit or something but i respect it
@@Proton64 More likely the we would use it for intelligence on how it was made, equipment, planes, and possible naval plans if we found her.
@@capnzz1844 yes like the enemies technologies etc and maybe some info
Also America: "Hey can we build aircraft carriers out of these 50 small ships?"
And now we are allies, who knows maybe we'll fight China together if something bad kicks off. Rest their souls, warriors of the high seas, great film
@@behindyou3689 yup I agree
The Philippines will at be your side as well, they seem to be building one their “islands” near Luzon and I’d hate to see my country fall into a more corrupt government and generally corrupt ideology.
Please dont or my country will be the center of the war
@@您的父上 lol how the fuck would you know?
@DiscordChaos hopefully it’ll be non-nuclear but I think the threat of it is to high. Then again NATO could attack Chinese holdings in Africa maybe but who knows
this shows the cruelty of war. young lives either gone or drastically changed. war is just a massive waste of life for leaders who care more about their pride and egos than the lives they're suppose to lead and protect
In case you did not know, one of the officers of the Hiryū was called Toshio Abe, he survived the attack by the aircraft carrier Hiryū, who later in 1944 was captain of the third twin of the yamato, the shinano aircraft carrier and he died in the sinking of the shinano after the attack of the uss submarine. ARCHERFISH
I’ve been on a sister submarine of the Archerfish, and it’s a pretty cool submarine.
@@stereowired where?
@@ssobergruppenfuhrerpeanut3674 I copied this from Wikipedia. These are the locations of surviving Balao-Class subs (same class as archerfish)
USS Batfish (SS-310) at War Memorial Park in Muskogee, Oklahoma[42]
USS Becuna (SS-319) at Independence Seaport Museum in Philadelphia[43]
USS Bowfin (SS-287) at USS Bowfin Submarine Museum & Park in Honolulu[44]
USS Clamagore (SS-343) at Patriot's Point in Mount Pleasant, South Carolina[45]
USS Ling (SS-297) at New Jersey Naval Museum in Hackensack, New Jersey[46]
USS Lionfish (SS-298) at Battleship Cove in Fall River, Massachusetts[47]
USS Pampanito (SS-383) at San Francisco Maritime National Historical Park in San Francisco[48]
USS Razorback (SS-394) at Arkansas Inland Maritime Museum in North Little Rock, Arkansas[49]
@@cheesedmacaroni Clamagore has sadly been scrapped. I fortunately got to tour her towards the end of her life, as sad as it was it was obvious her time had come.
Can't belive he didn't cry at the titanic
Do men even have feelings?
Men:
You don’t win a war by dying for your country. You win by making the other guy die for his.
- General Patton
Touche' (smile)
I know it is their custom to fight to the death such as in banzai charges but I think if the Japanese did not do all of that they would have probably held out longer during the Pacific campaign and who knows, maybe they could have started to regain ground. General Kuribayashi is a great example on how not permitting banzai charges as a way to fight to the death was incredibly effective. Iwo Jima was supposed to fall in 5 days assuming Kuribayashi was like the other Japanese commanders and generals but with Kuribayashi’s leadership the Japanese held for 36 days. He also presumably led the final defense on Iwo Jima and was killed in action which in my opinion is probably more honorable than seppuku.
That is right
I agree. Analizing the data suicide attacks were way less effective than "conventional" fighting, even considering the famous Kamikaze, which were used mainly because they lacked trained pilots that didn´t even know how to land their planes (didn´t need to).
If the Japanese had long held up for the defense of the Pacific islands, the Soviet Union would have occupied Japan ahead of the United States.
If we think about it, if there was less emphasis put on the Bushido code and Nationalism, Japan could’ve either held out until the Soviet’s and US put enough pressure or they could’ve relatively gone through the war unscathed and with the title of “Well we held out as long as we could”
But then again, it was this devotion to discipline and loyalty that made a tiny country like japan, deprived of natural resources, so formidable in the first place.
Contrary to the myth, Admiral Yamamoto Isoroku was still a believer in Battleship Supremacy, although he did recognize the potential of a/c carriers. When it came to carrier warfare, a master tactician he certainly was not, but his subordinate & close personal friend RADM Yamaguchi Tamon was. ADM Yamamoto would come to loath the desire of his best senior officers & his most elite pilots to “go down with the ship” after a setback or defeat.
Though it wouldn’t have changed a thing about the outcome of the Pacific War, the carrier battles of late 1942 would’ve been considerably different & far more interesting w/ an ADM Yamaguchi commanding the carriers instead of an overly cautious ADM Nagumo.
Yamamoto was the master mind behind pearl harbor was assassinated when code breakers found out he was doing a tour of inspection planes with 50 cal machine guns shot him down he crashed on boughnsville island one of the Solomon Island the bullets struck him on the shoulder,neck and the back of his head as he crashed he got thrown off the seat killing him meant the US removed Japan's most important figure from the game a chief strategist in other words after pearl harbor he wrote in his diary I fear all we have done is awoken a sleeping giant and filled him with terrible resolve cause he knew Japan would lose from the start but his superiors were ignorent and they gambled to knock out the us fleet in one blow but what they didn't know was the air craft carriers which are important targets weren't there at the time and they didn't destroy the oil storage by doing a 3rd wave which is why the us recovered from the attack so soon.
When he heard that Akagi Kaga and Soryu were hit, he ordered the Hiryu to be used as bait to lure the American carriers close to his main battle fleet composing of 5 battleships including the newly constructed Yamato.
All of which were destroyed@@inigobantok1579
It was that same sacrificial suicidal mindset that put the japanese at disadvantage, they losed so many experienced pilots and sailors
@@elmanco6885 Yep which is why they taught them to crash into fleet carriers instead after the battle at midway which was the turning point in the war the Japs didn't recover because it was the knockout blow that halted there ambitions so during the battle of the Philippines sea they got shot down by the US so easily cause the Japs only had basic training they called it the great marinas turkey shoot cause it was literally men against boys after that the US dominated the air and sea until the Japs were brought to there knees once and for all.
Descansa Hiryū
Fuiste un buen portaaviones haciendo misiones
Y todo te resultó un éxito
D.E.P HIRYU 1937-1942
La Nino. XD
In real life, even after being scuttled by torpeders from the destroyers, hiryu still wouldnt sink, until next morning
So the two commanders were just standing there until the next day
@@albay543 Well I guess so but there were other sections so they probably went to other places so their final meal and stuff
@@albay543 well they were standing on deck watching the approaching torpedoes. They could have been blown to pieces during the impact.
One stubborn little girl she was
@@10Tabris01 Just like the Yorktown
Death is as light as a feather, yet duty is heavier than iron.
That’s 武士道👍
I deeply respect Admiral Yamaguchi and Captain Kaku here with choosing to go down with the Hiryu and her deceased crew members while the survivors are evacuated and transferred to the escort ships to be taken back to Japan, taking full responsibility for the Hiryu's destruction and loss of one of the carriers that launched the Pearl Harbor attack. The one young officer's plea to stay with them being politely refused by Yamaguchi makes it clear he wants his crew to live on and continue serving Emperor Hirohito loyally and faithfully in his honor and memory.
That young officer was also the same guy who made a tactical move in the wargame earlier on in the movie. He played as the USN fleet and ambushed Nagumo's fleet from the northeast of Midway, for which he was berated for since Nagumo was adament that the USN was incapable of reaching Midway from Pearl Harbour and won't see the IJN coming.
He probably believed that it was partially his fault since he saw it coming and could have done something about it.
@@commanderbacara225 Good catch. I completely forgot about that.
The sailors that abandoned the ship was later scattered all over pacific islands since Japan was covering up the embarrassment back home, so they don't want anyone to return to mainland to deliver the bad news.
@@johnburns9634 Good point. Don't want to cause a panic if they learn the Battle of Midway was a huge defeat for the IJN and leaves the home islands a lot more vulnerable.
he was like " im enough for the enemy to die here " and didnt let anyone stay in ship . and died alone
brave yamaguchi
I love Japanese Navy uniform , it's so cool
Similar uniform is a uniform of high school of men in Japan even now as I wore.
Yamaguchi was probably the most under rated and best carrier commander
Why? Because he charged like an idiot with 1 carrier vs 3 instead of opening the range to take advantage of his planes' superior range compared to American ones? That's probably what Ozawa would have done. Pity that by the time he got to command, the IJN was thoroughly overmatched in both numbers and quality by USN, courtesy of vastly superior US industry and resources. At the Philippine sea, US lost 25 planes to Japanese planes and AAA and 80 to Ozawa's tactics (and their own admirals' rashness).
@@VersusARCH well he is not ,because he try to sink US carrier at all cost alone, well just because US Carrier more better it not sink easily, but if US Carrier same Quality with Japanese Carrier, USS Yorktown already Sink.
@@VersusARCH He got orders to keep fighting
@@VersusARCH I'm more of a Yamaguchi guy my self tbh dude predicted midway out come before the battle.
@@VersusARCH Yamaguchi made the decision based on the information at the time that Americans had 2 carriers and it was determined that it is still possible to fight on its own with Hiryu's planes.
Disrespect is the weapon of the weak
-- Alice Miller
The captain said really wise words..
I love this film and how accurate it is, I saw this film right after visiting Pearl Harbor, I'm also happy that this film didn't dehumanize the Japanese, like every other war film loves to dehumanize the Germans and the Japanese, both were human beings and its disrespectful
I cried during this scene because it is so emotional
same
I have learned that all Japanese carriers were destroyed here at the Midway battle, but I didn't know this part where Hiryu and its commanding officer went down by being torpedoed
Only four of them. Shokaku and Zuikaku were operating on a different mission
@@trajan231 no they were docked. One was damaged severly, the other lost its entire air crew
All four of the carriers were scuttled with torpedos, sounds like Soryu and Kaga were seriously fucked fast, while the Akagi and Hiryu they fiercely fought to save them for quite a few hours. The Hiryu took several hours after being torpedoed to fully sink, tough ships but not tough enough.
@@usul573 hiryu took a whole night and morning to sink
Captain Aoki was the only Carrier Captain to survive. He also attempted to go down with his ship but was forcefully removed. Kaga's was killed by explosions and Soryu's Captain jumped into the fire after suffering horrible burns during the attack.
The officer who made this request was not a Lieutenant Junior Grade as seen in the film. He was CDR Ito Seiroku, Senior Staff Officer of Carrier Division 2. RADM Yamaguchi removed his cap and gave it to Ito as a keepsake. IIRC it is now on display in the Kure Maritime Museum.
We are fortunate that we live in a time where the Japanese are no longer our enemy. They were a ferocious and committed opponent.
Yamaguchi is the kind of commander or boss that every man appreciates and respects.
Except for being in the military that did some pretty awful things.
I have the feeling that the directors of Midway took Tora Tora Tora as a “inspiration” how to make this movie, by showing both sides the US and Japanese, also showing that the Japanese were humans too instead of an “evil” enemy.
War itself and politics are the enemy
The IJN wasn't evil but the IJA was horrible and committed the vast majority of Japanese war crimes while not giving a fuck lol
@@BananaPhoPhilly IJN were not saints either. Some pilots were captured then thrown overboard. Some good and some bad.
The same is true for the IJA. Many bad and some just regular soldiers just fighting for their country. Many were scared too.
Tora! Tora! Tora! was great in portraying the events, POVs from both sides. It still is the best movie about the Pearl Harbor attack.
An older WWII movie that did very well in showing the view from multiple sides is The Longest Day. For as many nationalities they gave time for in that movie, it was a damn good job in making it all work out very well.
@@BananaPhoPhilly There's a lot of very dirty things that everyone was doing in the Pacific if you start digging hard enough into the history. I'm not talking about what Marines and Imperial Japanese Army were doing to each other, there's a lot of terrible things that were going on in the seas out there.
At Midway, one of the Japanese Destroyers picked up a US Navy pilot out of the water. They tortured, interrogated him to get information about the US Carriers, and then tied weights around him and threw him overboard.
There was an IJN Submarine that had sunk a Commonwealth transport. The submarine picked up some survivors, gathered them on the deck, tied them together and submerged the submarine while they were still bound. A few of them survived and got picked up by the Allies, that's how they knew of the incident.
In the Battle of the Bismarck Sea, a Japanese convoy of 8 transport ships loaded with reinforcement soldiers bound for New Guinea, were escorted by 8 Destroyers. They were swamped by repeated Australian and American air force bombers, sinking all 8 transports and half the escorting Destroyers. The brutality started when one of the American B-17s were shot down, the crew bailed out, and the Zero pilots started shooting them while in their parachutes. American PT Boats would later get into the areas where the transports, Destroyers were sunk, attacking, shooting men in the water and life rafts, as well as disrupting rescue attempts.
The Japanese were very brutal and that brutality was returned in kind.
This is very different with say, how the Western Allies fought the European Axis forces. War is hell and all, but when British, American, etc. surrendered to the Italians or Germans, they'd be treated decently. Same thing vice versa. The Pacific and Eastern front though, it wasn't like that, it was brutal and a lot of cruelty was going on. Bro, then there's the stuff that was going on in China. China had been at war with Japan years before the attack on Pearl Harbor drew the US into the conflict. Events in China had long been out of control, it was a bloodbath there. What the Japanese were doing in China was actually what got the United States into a downward spiral in relations with Japan, as it protested heavily with actions going on in China. It was that bad there.
I hope Hiryu will be found in the future. She, Soryu are the last two carrier that still need to be found. Two other ships lost at Midway that not been found yet are the Mogami class cruiser Mikuma and the destroyer USS Hammann which was torpedoed by the submarine I-168 while attempting to save USS Yorktown.
Tbh those and rms naronic are some of the ships I’d love to be discovered and see the wrecks of the most
And I’d love for the us navy to one day post footage of USS America’s wreck
I got emotional to this scene. It changed my look on the Japanese during ww2. Yes, they were cruel to enemies but they fought for their country and their lives. As an American of the next generation, I forgive the Japanese. And I can only hope god gives mercy on those who fought bravely. May the dead rest in paradise. 🙏🏻✝️
japanese navy and army isnt the same
@@baseplate7566 There were many Japanese Navy officers who perpetrated war crimes, not just the Japanese Army.
But I agree that the regular serviceman, who was just following orders, cannot be blamed because those things happened also on the Allied side. Not as numerous as the Japanese atrocities but enough.
Like the Laconia Incident.
The Japanese killed 30 million civilians. They were so cruel that even hardcore nazis said they’re too cruel.
At least your trying to forgive and forget my country on the other hand faught against the nazis and now our country is ran by them reducing free speech laws getting jailed for 7 years if you offend someone oh and don't forget about jail time for calling the first minister a nazi
they are soo brave even in the face of death😔
It was Expected in Japanese culture,you brought shame to your emperor and family if you did accept this fate .Failure was out of the question
@@Masted-dy7xl Did not* you missed a part there bud.
True attitude as sailor and commanding officer !
Spectacular performance from Asano-san.
As much as you might want to vilify the Japanese you cant question their sense of honor and duty. Its impeccable
Their warrior code was admirable in some ways......but it was also used to excuse their evil and depravity. To the dustbin of history with them.
@@Thor_Odinson Their war crimes were similar to those done by many other peoples, just from earlier time periods. The Rape of Nanking was no different than how Vikings, Mongols, Romans treated ANY city they SACKED. The Scots when they sacked the English city of York. The Native Americans inter tribal wars before the white men arrived were horrendous and genocidal (entire tribal nations were exterminated by larger more powerful tribal nations, etc). There are tons of historical examples of depraved and cruel acts by conquerors. The issue is that Japan was a medieval people, thrust into the modern age in a few generations. Hell, even the Red Army and the Wehrmacht did horrendous things to the people they conquered. Do you excuse them?
MIDWAY -1942 & NOW!
It was June the 4th 1942,
As I was floating in the ocean alone
The ship I had sailed on, sank to the bottom
And I thought I would never again, see home.
The Japanese fleet had steamed in from the east
With the intentions of capturing Midway.
Though they were stopped by American war ships
Whose guns, bombs and torpedoes planes saved the day.
All night long, I watched the fireworks of war
And on the second day we turned up the heat.
As big bombers from Hawaii dropped their loads
On Japanese ships who soon chose to retreat.
An imperial pilot came floating close by
Who had been chewed on by the beasts of the sea.
I couldn't help but feel passion for this is man
Who had answered his call just like me.
When it was over, I was plucked from the deep
By men in a lifeboat just after the dawn.
For two days I had watched the battle for, Midway
Now it's quiet and the enemy has gone.
It’s not a priest that gives us our freedom of religion
And it’s not a reporter that gives us our freedom of voice.
It’s not any judge, lawyer, politician, preacher or teacher
But the blood of a soldier that has sacrificed by choice.
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Going down with your ship willingly..
That takes honor. And balls.
Very rare to see a scene this moving.
I know they were our enemy and all but, damn, you cant deny that loyalty.
😢
Remember that many of these men were commanded by the emperor to fight and, to them the emperor was always right. A lot of them were really evil, people but not all of them some just wanted honour and happiness for their families and country, and very few people deserve to burn alive onboard a sinking carrier
I agree that they wanted honor and happiness for their family and country. And the emperor was a sort of symbol, and it was the government that actually commanded. It is same as "freedom" doesn't command US solidier to fight.
The Japanese soldiers were notorious for committing incredibly evil acts with surprising regularity, the Rape of Nanjing being one of the most famous examples. They were also known to use human shields, eat POWs alive, torture people to death, rape, convince locals to commit suicide if they are about to be taken over by the US, etc.
The death of Tamon yamaguchi was not necessary. He was not wounded and will have been probably more important alive than dead. He was a so good admiral that his decision his only understandable in a perfect adoption of Bushido code. He has not failed, because he cause serious damages to uss fleet with extremely limited forces. He had done his job. He was one a the rare person who had doubt about the rule of carrier in the MI operation (two targets-Midway and provoke the american fleet to go out and offer the possibility to destroy with enormous battleships like Yamato (what were in this battle totally useless)).
If only they understood that their experience would be very needed later on. The lack of experience in the IJN in terms of pilots and sailors made a huge difference
1:48
RIP
Tamon Yamaguchi
(1892-1942)
and
Tomeo Kaku
(1893-1942)
I read later on, that the Captain of the Destroyer that sank the Hiryu, would actually go on to command the Shinano on it's ill fated voyage.
He was the enemy, but I certainly respect his bravery.
You can respect the bravery of an enemy, especially in hindsight once the war is long since passed.
The worst part is even when they hit the hiryu with 3 torpedoes, in real life it still took an hour before she sank. The crew did so good with damage control they they had sealed a lot of the water tight compartments, but the engines were out, the water maines were cut in midship so they couldn't fight the fires anymore. But she still held on to be sunk. The curse of the yukikaze raged the entire war and beyond.
1:38 Type 93 Long Lance Torpedo, best torpedo in ww2.
My favorite at games
@@jaeger9654 especialy wows, it's a killer
Time to dominate naval battles in war thunder
Also called the oxygen torpedo maybe because it's powered by compressed oxygen tank, instead of otto fuel
Shame the movie didn't show it (Probably because of some bias for the Americans), but Hiryu as the sole surviving Japanese carrier in the battle of Midway attacked twice, and those two attacks are considered to be one of the most coordinated carrier strikes in the war. If they didn't mistake the Yorktown for another carrier since it got repaired so quickly, Hiryu would've sunk or at least badly damage two carriers alone.
It and admiral Yamaguchi eventually went down in battle like true warriors
They take something from us, we take something from them.
They take something from us ... we take a lot more from them.
This scene is well depicted in the Japanese film Storm over the Pacific.
The directer was an IJN officer, by the way.
0:58
when ur little brother get to sleep in mom dad bedroom and you want to go too in ur dad mom bedroom
this scene is from a movie called "Midway" awesome movie definitely recommend to watch it
Tenno heika banzai!
Yamaguchi was a brilliant carrier tactician who robbed the IJN of his considerable talents by stupidly going down with his ship. Admiral Yamamoto was rumored to mark his loss as equally harmful to the IJN as that of the 4 carriers.
Rear Adm. Yamaguchi had the best tactics but to overriden by Adm. Nagumo who failed to launch the crucial torpedo planes(ordered to replaced its Land Bombs to Torpedos) despite the pleadings of Rear Adm. Yamaguchi and cost them time and the battle overall.
@@notSoSmthOptr Yes, Yamaguchi rightly wanted to attack the American carriers right away with the land weapons. Who is to say what it may have changed in the battle. Japan would still have lost the war but it could have lasted longer and been far more costly in lives lost.
@@bodasactra since all 3 US carriers had wooden decks it might have worked with contact bombs. It worked for the US.
Still though even if the IJN got all 3 US carriers if it cost 2-4 carriers themselves then it’s a wash and without those carriers the IJN really can’t go on the offensive anymore.
The entire Midway battle was fought wrong by the IJN. Their real strength was in their surface ships and they should have just put their surface ships up front and used all their battleships including Yamato at Midway and just use their carriers for CAP.
The IJN battleships perhaps 5 of them including Yamato would just shell Midway.
Had they used this strategy they may have been able to sink all 3 US carriers and not receive any damage to their own carriers.
The irony of this is that while the IJN didn’t necessarily know the US wouldn’t have been able to cause much damage to any of the IJN battleships. The US mainly only had contact bombs themselves and their torpedos were junk.
After Yamaguchi went down with the Hiryu, Yamamoto issued an order that no more commanders were to go down with their ships. Yamaguchi was a great mind lost. Had he lived, he may have taken over when Yamamoto was killed in 1943.
This is the actual Japanese spirit and leadership, mostly peoples do not know this.
Lots of respect to all martyred soldiers of IJN & IJA🫡🫡🫡🫡🫡❤️❤️❤️
Wat part of "Unconditional Surrender" do you not understand?
The brave and proud spirit japanese bushido!!😢😎💪
The Japanese military especially then were many things. Probably many bad things, but. There is one thing they were almost never not. Brave, and that must be respected.
The crews and officers of the carriers were scattered all over the pacific after the battle. They did this to keep the news of the defeat from reaching the home islands. Most of them died in combat.
Even tho they lost, At least they fight with honor and die with honor. Salute to this brave sailors
The IJN would have been better off losing Nagumo, but instead Yamaguchi went down with his ship, depriving Yamamoto of one of his best subordinates.
This is so sad
The Japanese and German perspective on the war might have been far more of a tragedy, but damn is it powerful stuff.
I find it interesting that despite our (humanity) different starting points in ancient history, we all seem to agree on that a Captain should go down with his ship.
When your 3 year old sister wants to play in your xbox 0:09
lol
I can't find the movie "battle of midway" Where can I watch this?
The 1976 Midway is available (here) on YT but you have to rent it. Turner Classic Movies (TCM) shows it once in awhile. They might be playing it on Veterans Day.
That almost made me cry 😭😭😭😭😭
Yes imagine if they are allies it's more sad and know Japan is our closest friends
Yamaguchi had two opportunities to save Hiryu: during the first catastrophic dive bomber attack on Kido Butai in the morning, by turning out of US carriers effective range. But no, he joined the cruisers and battleships advancing on the known position of TF16/17. Later that day, damaged as Hiryu was, the engines and steering gear were still intact. Av fuel and munitions were low, so there was no unquenchable fire. It was the elevator blown up against the island that was the breaking point. Classic case of the prize fighter with the delicate glas jaw.
Maybe. I read that Hiryu's damage control teams had almost reached the engine rooms to save their ship and restore power. Those teams (as on the other Imperial carriers that day) would stay at their posts to the last man and suffocate, rather than give up.
Also, Hiryu's fires were not as devastating as they were on Soryu and Kaga. After 3 attacks during morning and afternoon, the magazines were nearly empty of munitions and the supply of av gas was nearly gone. Damage was about the same as later happened to Bunker Hill and Franklin. It only required a more resourceful crew to get the ship home. Yamaguchi's mad need to attack at all costs was what doomed the ship.
Me as a kid watching western-based war movies: “Haha Axis Powers evil…”
Me watching them now: *”Oh damn…”*
The axis were evil tho
It’s fine to sympathize with the average soldiers but…don’t forget they were the aggressors. Very very bad aggressors
@@theknightwiththen-wordpass7084 allies were evil too
Axis leaders were evil.
The poor sobs on the ground mostly deserve sympathies.
Nazi had to implement the concentration camp and gas chambers because a lot of soldiers couldn't bring themselves to slaughter Jews/gypsies/etc.
@@theknightwiththen-wordpass7084 The LEADERS were evil. A huge number of the young men who fought and died were DRAFTED and conscripted into service. You can have sympathy for the average guy who was conscripted into service to 'serve his government'. Even with Nazi Germany, many of the young German soldiers Mid war to late war were drafted into service, whether they agreed with the German Government's positions or not. When people get older, they begin to see the difference between a GOVERNMENT being evil and it's own people. Now the people believe the propaganda of the government, but that's not their fault. that's what propaganda does.
I enjoyed this movie. This is one of about 3 scenes that touched me...
did they do some research before shooting this scene? from 2 torpedoes that were fired from makigumo only 1 torpedo that hit hiryu because the other one missed hiryu just below the ship
some are changes to make the scene more visually appealing. there were a number of much bigger mistakes in the movie this was one of the more minor ones.
Also the ship took like another few hours to sink after the torpedoes.
@@MrChickennugget360 What are some of the bigger mistakes? I'm interested
where can this entire movie be found?
The 9176 version can be found here on YT.
Wow the scene almost made me cry that part where the Man wanted to stay with Yamaguchi
I’m trying to figure out what the other man’s name is.
Ifk whats the mans name is iys just idk the movie MIDWAY
This is a scene that makes me feel sad 😢.
Nah don’t feel sorry for these people
@@omarbaba9892 Why?
@@divi02_editz just look up what the Japanese navy and army did in China
Was so bad the lead naz* officer in China complained to moustache man about how brutal they were
IJN > IJA change my mind. It's crazy to think how different this war could of gone were it not for the sheer disparity between the US military's industry and resources compared to Japan's. If the IJN could have churned out endless waves of carriers like the USN could, then we might all be speaking Japanese right now.
tht was the issue for japan/germany/italy. 3 small countries with limited manpower/equipment/industrial capacity vs 3 titans england/russia/usa.
usa alone could've taken germany/japan/italy.....
but russia and usa that's overkill.
yeah nah,if japan,germany or axis the one who win,rather than speaking japanese/german we are more likely to die,lets be real,USA and allies is no good,but compared to axis?? well believe it or not,this is the case where those so called "fate/destiny" that usually will go for the "good guy" and not the bad guy actually works,thank god for that.
@@joeswanson733 wouldn't call england a titan, after they've lost most of their colonial territories..america was a true beast at churning out war machines while Russia won because of general winter.
@@lyhthegreat the royal navy was a beast
@@joeswanson733 yeah but im pretty sure the brits would had lost had america not intervened.
Another thing to add: Don't hate the military; hate their boss.
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WERE MEN CRY:
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Boys:
This scene made me feel some sympathy for the Japanese, maybe more than the Americans even. Also, I'm glad somebody's torpedoes work.
It's actually reported that a young sailor tried to stay with Yamaguchi, but was turned down. It's very obscure though so it's hard to verify.
IJN > IJA
The younger officer must have been feeling so guilty about the defeat. He must be feeling, "if only i had pressed my case stronger during that wargame with Nagumo."
0:35 very well
0:41 abandon ship
Still makes me cry
Its so sad. The worst part is the destoyer firing the torpedo at hiryu and one crewmember wanted to go down with the ship but was was stopped by the admiral itself.😰😰😰😰😰😰😰😰😰😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
He was an officer
What yamaguchi was saying is true young men needed to live
If you read the book "Fading Victory" by Matome Ugaki...it will give a very picture how Yamaguchis death affected the Imperial fleet, Isoroku Yamamoto and the war for Japan.