Why Is Tasmania Full Of Weird & Rude Names?
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What are some of your favourite weird Tasmanian names?
The mountains on Tassie named "nipples" reminds me of a pair of hills on the mainland called "titty hill".
Sorry, no deep and meaningful reason for it. They are named like that because they look like a pair of titties.
pussylip avenue
Pisspot
Patrick
You already have my 3 favourites: Snug, Nowhere Else and Penguin. Elephant Pass is pretty good too (Tasmania is notably devoid of pachyderms).
Okay a real life Tasmanian here, let me set the facts straight, We give things silly names because we can. Funny is funny and our sense of humor hasn't really changed.
Case and point local whitewater group refer to a particular section of one river as proctologist drop or something similar, I'll let you work out why and its labeled on race maps as such.
Hehehhee
I mean
I am Tasmanian and I second that
Pls no one like this comment
@@jeronimoramirez8 too late i like doing things i am told not to
Tasmanian here with some etymology on these names for you!
Eggs and Bacon Bay - Named after the egg-and-bacon flower that grows here
Wombat Flat - its flat, it has wombats
Blubber Head - It was used for whaling
Mouldy Hole - Unknown. Probably because its wet
Little Hell -Theres actually 5 places called Little Hell in Tasmania. Convicts didn't like living here, and a lot of them are unpleasantly steep or dark.
Shallow Bottom Point - its a bay that a shallow bottom
Chuckle Head - I can't find any info on this, its a "head" (or prominent sticking out bit of land on an island). Government records advise it was suggested by the Dennes family of Bruny and origin is unknown.
Bottom Lagoon - Unknown origin
Isle of the Dead - its where the convict station at port arthur buried its dead. Its incredibly sad to visit, they do boat cruises that pass by while they talk about the history.
Sleeping Beauty - Mount Wellington when viewed from here looks like a lady sleeping
Hellfire Bluff - The cliffs here are made of orange - red sandstone.
Bust Me Gull Hill - Its a very steep hill.
Little Dismal - There is also Mount Dismal and Dismal Swamp. They're as they sound, Dismal.
Break Me Neck Hill - Its a very steel hill. There is a story someone once fell and broke their neck here but its unconfirmed.
The Butts - Unknown, but its a hill, so it wouldn't surprise me if it was named for exactly why it sounds.
Breasted Sugarloaf - Sugarloaf is an old fashioned word for very tall but rounded a hill. Theres at least 3 Sugarloaf locations in Tasmania. Black Sugarloaf (racist) was renamed to Biralee, and theres also two Sugarloaf Roads
Secret Hole - I can't find any record of this, though its most likely just a cave. See the entry for Dangerous Hole
Pisspot Creek - This name was rejected by the government, and I have no clue of its origin, so its not actually a place in Tasmania.
Bottom Hole - Its one of 3 large lakes, which are called unoriginally Top Hole, Middle Hole and Bottom Hole.
Guys Dirty Hole - Named after a man called Guy Ransom, originally called Old Guys Dirty Hole but renamed after they decided that was unfortunate
Funny Knob Creek - Unknown
Horrible Hollow Gully - Originally called John Fitzgerald Creek. Renamed, unknown reasons. Though its pretty much in the middle of no where, so you can guess its descriptive
Granny's Gut - This seems to have been made up? There are no records of its existence.
Bottom Fancy - Unknown origin, though it was rejected and isn't an official place.
Tinkle Creek - It makes a tinkling sound, I'd guess ,but no records recorded
Knut Bush Creek - Possibly named after Knut Dahl, the explorer? Unknown. Danish pronounciation, as in ker-nut.
Ding Dong Rainforest - Unknown. It was named by suggestion of a foresting company, someone having a laugh I guess.
Prickly Bottom - Its a "bottom", the floor of a valley. Its probably prickly.
Ranga - Aboriginal word meaning "Knee". Its a kinda knee shaped bend in the island of Cape Barren.
Big Gulch - Its a big gulch
Nowhere Else - Named after the Road, Nowhere Else Road. When building roads, roads therefore tended to be named after the property owners by the road gangs. The road in question, being a link road, could not be named after anyone hence the term Nowhere Else Road and the subsequent locality name.
Paradise - Religious evangelists settled this area, Calvinist's in particular, so its kinda like Tasmania's utah.
Dangerous Hole - Its a cave, and its dangerous. Theres so many of these people got sick of naming them, hence they have names like "Rubbish Heap Cave", "Glow-worm cave", "Sassafras Cave" and "Sassafras II Cave"
Cummings Head - Cummings is a British surname.
Penguin - It has penguins. See also Cygnet, which has Cygnets (baby swans),
Cooee - Cooee is an indigenous word meaning something like "come to me". There was a move in the mid 19th century to name things in Tasmanian Aboriginal to preserve the language as it went extinct.
Misery Knob - "Knob" is an old word for a hill. Its also miserable.
Promised Land - Calvinist evangelists settled here on a religious pilgrimage.
Tittie Gee Creek - Unknown, though it was called Trial Creek before this.
Big Bush - its a big area of bush
Stinkhole - It stinks, most likely.
Crack Pot - This is actually the name of a tourist trap, a miniature village called "Lower Crackpot", built by the local mayor. Crack Pot means an eccentric person, usually an old man, so he was having a rib at himself.
Thrush Forest - Thrush are a type of bird.
The Never Never -Never Never is an old poetic name for an uninhabited, remote place in Australia from the poem Where the Dead Men Lie.
Butt of Liberty - Briefly renamed to the Butt, then renamed back. Unknown.
Dunnys Dam - Its a dam, named after a man called Dunny.
Snag Point - Presumably due to snagging your fishing lines on the rocky seabed.
Mossy Nipple Bend- A minor, grassy hill. The name was rejected, so it isn't official.
Officers Bottom- Bottom is the floor of a valley. This is quite a lovely grassy area, so probably granted to an officer. Now the town of Wayatinah.
Broad Bottom- A wide valley floor
Long Bottom - A long valley floor
Deep Thought - A cave. To quote the official record "Awesome Wells and Deep Thought are both caves not mountains. Noted that Anakananda and Kellar Cellar were correct, but sometimes cave names are so weird that it is difficult to tell what they are."
Awesome Wells - See above.
The Dungeon - Theres actually two places in Tasmania called The Dungeon, no where near each other. Both are caves.
Humungus Hole - Cave. Its big.
Beggary Bumps - Originally called Buggery Bumps by the Melbourne University Walking Club. Naming board changed it to be more clean. You get the idea why the ycalled it that.
Tonguers Point - Originally Hixon Point, renamed in 1966. It seems to be some kind of slang but I don't have access to the book the official record refers to for a definition.
Platypus Point - it has platypus
Goon Moor - Named after Ray Goon, a pilot.
High Round Mountain - Its high, round and a mountain.
Laughing Creek - Unknown.
The Boomerang - Its a hill shaped like a Boomerang.
Big Trumpeter Bay - Big Trumpeter (a type of fish) could be caught here.
Ooze Lake - Its a very shallow, brown lake filled with moss and algae.
Snug - Its a lovely little town, named for how extremely pleasant its location is. Except for that time it burned down. Never heard of the idea that its about boats, in fact, its got a pretty massive bay.
Satan's Lair - No official record, so probably a cave.
Deep Bottom - Its a deep valley
Round Bottom - Its a round valley
The Dump - Unknown origin.
Pensioners Bush - This area was settled by Irish soldiers who couldn't return to ireland at the end of their service due to the potato famine, so they were given this land as their pensioner.
Boomers Bottom - Boomer is slang for a kangaroo, this area has a lot of them.
No No Hole - This no longer has this name, It was actually No No's Hole,
to quote an author "... a mob of [racial slur] who had committed a murder on the property sought refuge there when an avenging party of whites were on their heels. They cried 'No, No,' and kept diving under the water for safety, but were all shot."
Knockup - Actually Knock-up Hill, knock-up is a Victorian slang for injury (see: knocked-around today). It was considered one of the most dangerous parts of the road to north-east Tasmania at the time.
Brilliant work!! Launcestonian here
Tonguers Point - tonguers are whalers who strip the blubber off whales so it was probably once a whaling station
You still can’t name something “The Butts” or “Lovely Bottom” without knowing what your doing... No matter how the official origin is we all know what was crossing the mind of the person who named these this.
Great work though
while each of these explanations makes sense individually, I find it odd that the universe conspired to give each of them a weird or dirty-sounding name. I think Patrick's singular overarching hypothesis makes more sense.
Tasmanian here. I barely knew half of the names on the map, most of them belong to uninhabited/tiny/remote/ places. Thanks for the video!
my mum and i had a good old crackle 😂 im from hobart
I'm from Tassie too, never heard off most of the names
Melbournian here, to be fair, uninhabited/tiny/remote could be the entire western side of Tassie.
That's why I love it.
Yew I’m tassie too I love Stonor 🤣😂🤣
NW Tas girl here :) I know most of those names and been to a few.
I live in Tasmania and I never really considered that some of these places have weird names.
Callum Evans yeah when you grow up with it it’s nothing unusual and you think nothing of it aye
As a Tasmanian I can confirm we are weird
I never want to go back there, from a Queenslander
@@noone-mz1cd good news stay away one less idiot
dont forget inbred jk i hail from QLD so adlest we can agree on one thing (i think) screw nsw for no reason
@@noone-mz1cd Too cold huh?
The reason the odd names are so frequent is because we Aussies like taking the piss, aka cracking jokes and making fun of things (in a good way).
What happens when places are named by those who don't want to be there?
Answer: Tasmania.
What? Is this another ‘Tassie is sh*t’ joke. Haha or is there a punchline I’m missing.
Sincerely~
A confused Tasmanian
@@BearsyMai From what I remember, the impression I got from the video was that the places were named by people put there against their will, hence why they’re so different from the norm.
@@BlizzardofKnives oh, haha, that makes more sense. I’m just so used to people badmouthing my state.
In Australia “map of Tasmania” means your pubic hair.
Untrue, it means vagina. Because it’s roughly the triangle shape and has one long road going down the middle from Launceston to Hobart
@@skunkrat01 na.
@@skunkrat01 spot on lmfao
@@skunkrat01 wrong its the pubic hair not the vag mate I am Tasmanian so I know
Woman's public hair
I grew up in a town called boat harbour, it took me 14 years to realise how dumb a name that was, what other types of harbours are there?
I currently live nearby at flowerdale🙂
I stayed at Boat Harbour Beach as a kid a few times, I always wondered why we had to travel through Boat Harbour to get to the water...
Hey, I knew a few kids from Boat Harbour, North West represent.
Snug is not a weird name! You take that back you!
Yes we live just next to snug it’s a lovely snug and great place
If Boaty McBoatface has told us anything it’s the general public is the best at naming things. When I saw the name of the video I had the same theory lingering in the back of my mind
I wonder if the international audience understands your comment (or if they had to Google it and expose our -shame- creativity) 🤣
@@redapol5678 Nah fam, Boaty McBoatface and its spin-offs are known worldwide
@Heiliger Katholik I know Tasmania is separated from the rest of us by the Bass Strait and is sometimes forgotten from people’s maps of Australia but I’ve never considered you guys as _international_ 🤣
Ah Tasmanian devil
a cute, feisty creation of mine
Nah mate, we created and owned the Tassie Devil, we also put together the platypus.
So you're the one who made it have hellish screams and red ears.
@Kim Jong-un you seem the type of bloke who would say he has a Tasmanian Tiger/Thylacine as a pet
You should show them more affection dear leader, perhaps pat a few next time you visit
@@Sprinkles-r5y it's pet
The Apple Isle was a tourism marketing thing i believe. The phrase i think was on our car number plates for a while, that is usually a dead giveaway.
0:29 it’s pronounced like bond-eye
going through the comments to see if anyone mentioned this!
Yes but I'm pretty sure that the Aboriginal language it's from pronounces it bond-ee
@@michaelhird432 did some googling and that doesn’t seem to be true..? If anything I maybe found reference to the fact that it could be said more as “Boondi” (which I imagine is the “oo” from “look” not the “oo” from “too”)
@@TheAcdcninja in english I think that's true, but after some googling of my own I found that the native word is bundi, which would be pronounced with a short I as in spit
@@michaelhird432 care to share your source? I’m seeing constant references to “Bondi” or “Boondi” but nothing that elaborates on how to pronounce the ‘i’
I live in Tasmania, and did acid in Snug. Tassie is sick
*Bogans*
@@BrownHeadedPrick Nah fam that's Devonport lol
I'm a Tasweigan and was born here in Tasmania. Tasmania is called the apple isle because we grow a shitload of apples, you must have some pretty strange looking apples if you think Tasmania looks like an apple. One of the best town names we have is Forcett, pronounced force-it, we are just waiting for some legend to open a pub there and call it the Forcett inn. A lot of these strange names probably come from our blue sense of humor, we like a joke that pushes the boundaries, maybe our convict past has a lot to do with that.
Heiliger Katholik you’ve seriously
Never heard that? It’s just meant to be fun nothing too serious
@Heiliger Katholik google it. If you ever go to Norway you'll know.
@Heiliger Katholik it is in the Oxford dictionary.
How many weird names do you want?
Tasmania: Yes
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Si
Oh my god. First video I’ve ever seen dedicated to Tasmania. Cheers for that. TASMANIA REPRESENT ✊🏻😎
Fuck yeah!
Sadly the most viewed video about Tasmania is Issac Butterfield shitting on us.
@@captain-chair it’s an honour to even be acknowledged by him 😛
As an Australian, I love Tasmania. After my state: Victoria, Tasmania is the best state. The worst, naturally being New South Wales.
Things i agree with there as a tasmanian: NSW is the worst,
things i don't agree with: tassie is one of the better states; Have u been here in winter? its freezin haha
there are over 400 lakes or ponds in Finland called Shit Pond
That's impressive!
There is a lake called dildo and bitch lake apparently
Shit pond lmfao
Why?
I think your theory is excellent. People like silly names - “Boaty McBoatface” anybody?
I agree.
My friend grew out hisbeard once and I started calling him "Beardy McBeardBeard".
Boaty McBoatface will never not be funny to me. I've started calling my cat Jasper Jazzy McJazzface. He seems ok with it.
There’s also that map of what areas of Scotland call their grit machines
1803 was when they first settled in Tasmania. The confusion of 1804 stems from a Centenary event in 1903, as like today with COVID pandemic, they had their own pandemic and a lot of events got pushed, in this case to 1904.
I am going to share this video to a Facebook group called "Tasmanian History" and we'll tear apart the video for you. The group is a public one so you can enjoy the comments (if there's any) with out having to join. Cheers from a person who has study some what on Tasmanians History.
Maybe they also did it out of spite, as they were sent there as punishment
the way he said “bondi” cracked me up XD Its Bon-Die
Eggs and Bacon Bay was named after them Egg and Bacon flowers (Pultenaea villosa) that grow there.
One of my favourite Tasmanian names is Lake Nameless. I also like the name Boobs Flat.
You're welcome.
Tasmanian here. It is nicknamed the Apple Isle because it used to be the main apple-producing part of Australia. That's gone, but the name has stuck.
It is NOT even vaguely shaped like an apple. What it is REALLY shaped like is an untrimmed woman's ... special bits. Hence in Australian slang, a woman's ... special bits ... are quite often referred to as her "map of Tassie".
I love Aussies! Ya'll evolve English so much faster than the rest of us. Australian slang and AAVE are both very fascinating because they could easily become their own language sooner rather than later. lol
*V a g i n a*
What a proud day to be a Tasmanian🇦🇺
yes i agree where are you from over here?
It's always a proud day to be a Tasmanian!
10:04 well, in the US, French colonists named a mountain “big teat”. So not just convicts. And now we have a national park named Grand Teton.
sure, but there's the explanation right there; they were French
Ah yes my favorite, Big Tits National Park!
I am from Tasmania and can confirm that nobody calls in the Apple isle.
We did up until the '80's then they tore all the apple trees out :(
Its definitely called the Apple Isle by our tourism council
you don't get a round a lot of people then. I still hear it every now and then
It's nice seeing more continent about Tasmania on RUclips, good to learn some random facts and examine theories about my homeland even now and then eh.
The idea that they may be named by rude inmates makes this so much funnier.
In Poland we have village named „Mała Wieś przy Drodze” which literally means Little Village near the Road
So undescriptive... I love it!
I could understand that
And i think its beautifull
"The Apple Isle"...? It hasn't been called that for about 40 years since bulldozing all the orchards and importing apples from New Zealand. Also we class our convict heritage as being "Australian Royalty".
Not all the orchards, in fact, they are planting big apple orchards where I live.
@@Ihavebeenwatchingyou He’s being sarcastic lol. Called the apple isle because it kinda looks like an apple.
@@marvinmartinsYT no no ... it was called the apple isle because it had one of the largest export industries of apples in Australia to the world ..
@@shanelittlejohn1301 I’ve been alive in Australia for 56 years. Didn’t even know apples grew there. The only time I’ve head apple was it sorta looked like an apple.
We still refer to Tassie quite regularly as the apple isle, here in the Huon valley there are a plethora of apple orchards.
Traditional Cockney rhyming could have influenced the way those convicts named their settlements.
Brilliant point!
The amount of fellow tassies in the comments in incredible
I live in Tasmania and ive never heard of these names. Guess i gotta go now
Eggs and Bacon Bay is a good name.
Sincerely, the USA
there's an "american bay" on kangaroo island
PETA tried to change Eggs and Bacon Bay name, they failed miserably.
@@KS-yv2ve AAAAAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA fucking useless mob.
Eggs and Bacon Bay is one of the greatest names of all time
Wonderful video as usual
There are weird names every in Australia. Like “Come by chance”. Woodenbong. River bend. Surfers paradise. Southport which is in Queensland the most northern state.
marvin martin there’s a Southport in Tasmania but it is in the far south so it makes sense
@@finndoyle260 I live a minute away from Southport in Tas, it’s the last stop in Tassie... so probably Australia too
But hey, it's just a theory, a Naaaame Theory, thanks for watching.
2:37
Secret hill. Fuckin nice secret dude I'll tell nobody
I've been to Bagdad before (Bagdad in Tasmanian, that is)
We have Ouse too, pronounced "ooze". My dad was born there.
But that's just a theory. A name theory!
I agree with your theory. The big towns and rivers were named with serious (mostly English) names by official government explorers and surveyors. But much of Australia - especially small settlements and localities - was named by freed convicts , and later free settlers, who just moved into the areas to start farming, or mining in the various gold rushes. Sometimes they picked up (and often mangled) aboriginal names, sometimes they named them after a place in England, and sometimes they named it whatever amused them or was clear to them in casual conversation. In the late 1800s, and again after WW2, settlers could claim a piece of land and become its owners (ignoring the aborigines there) just by registering it with the government and being willing to farm it. Names just grew up as people moved into these new areas. My in-laws' farm is near Alectown, so named because there happened to be 3 guys all called Alec who lived nearby. Their creek is Dead Bird Lead Creek, presumably named for a gold mining lead that happened to have a dead bird in it at some stage. The locals knew which lead that meant, and the name stuck. And so on.
You see the same in other countries where names weren't given by official explorers. A prime example in the USA is the mountain range near Yosemite NP, named the Grand Tetons by French fur trappers. Do the translation...
7:35 Transport of convicts to Australia started in 1787! They arrived in Australia in 1788.
That convict thing has always annoyed me. The vast majority of Australians families came here in the 1800s or of their own free will (like my maternal lineage). I'm pretty sure I do have one or two convicts in my lineage to be fair but they're in the minority of my lineage. My paternal family is very recently English (both my paternal Grandparents are from England) so I remember some dude in my primary school always called me a convict because my fathers family is English which really annoyed me when I was younger lmao.
My fav names are Bust-Me-Gall Hill and Break-Me-Neck Hill. They are right next to each other on the road from the small town of Orford to the capital, Hobart. As you can guess, they are not small hills.
Tassie had more convicts than anywhere else and is the 2nd oldest colony in Australia. Brings credence to what your theory is. It is one of the reasons why we changed from VDL to Tas. To get rid of a very ugly past and the strain our Convict history.
As a Tasmanian I’ve always thought the names came from our convicts having a laugh, they always gave me a laugh. Sadly I didn’t notice “bust me gal hill”, which the convicts probably weren’t laughing on at the time.
I'm surprised you didn't mention Doo Town; a small coastal shack community in Tas where all the houses have the term 'doo' in the name eg Doo nothing, Gunnadoo, Doo me, De doo ron ron etc
Why is Wombat Flat funny? It's probably an expanse of flat, grassy land with wombats in it. It's a warning so you don't go there because the wombats will kill you.
I dont know about Tsamania. But ill say this. Australians are a hearty bunch and living in such a rough environment has probably molded them that way.
Not sure what the story is about the guys who named the Grand Tetons in the US, but they were definitely French, and definitely dudes, because only dudes would name mountains "The Big Breasts." Sigh. I don't think they were convicts, though.
Oh! Oh! I've been to Penguin and seen the big penguin!!
I've been to Nowhere Else and Paradise, Promised Land, Cooee and Bagdad. (You can probably guess which area of Tasmania I live based on the names).
The places in Tasmania that still have their names are Snug, Cooee, Penguin and Ooze. I’ve never heard any of these other names though 😆
It isnt Ooze its Ouse, but Ill let it fly. Unappealing name I know
Nice video, excellent to see my home featured in a youtube video.
As a Tasmanian I think the answer is pretty simple and boring, the names weren't considered rude at the time of naming them.
As a Tasmanian this intro is so uncanny. Do people really think this place is uninhabited??
0:29 Bond-i
2:14 Then had a catastrophic bushfire in the mid 1900s
8:14 An old seaport prison had a massacre in the '90s which sparked massive gun reform in Australia
....what does 8:14 have to do woth Port Arthur?
@@TOBAPNW_ it happened at port Arthur.
🤣 Never seen so many Tassie commenters
Eggs and Bacon Bay is usually attributed to Lady Jane Franklin, named after the eggs and bacon orchid common in the area but I much prefer the story of captain Cooks crew naming it after a breakfast stop, the only stuff they found were turbo chook eggs and echidnas ( which apparently taste like bacon).
Another little gem is Doo Town, near Port Arthur, where all the homes are named things like This'llDoo, Doo us, Dooing it easy etc.
But for real fun, look into the stories surrounding a little hamlet called Black Bobs. Widely accepted as the origin of the Two Headed Tasmanians 😁🍺
To all Australians,
Sorry about that
Another Taswegian here :) I enjoyed your your video outlining tongue-in-cheek labelling of place arising from tension between convict vs settlers vs convict/settlers! Here's some more examples to fuel discussion :) Many deep wilderness areas in Tas share names with Greek and Christian myth: River Styx, River Lethe, The Acropolis, The Walls of Jerusalem, The Pools of Bethesda. Towns share Middle Eastern and African names: Jordan River, Jericho, Bagdad (sic), Nile. There are also places named after their tragic history of Aboriginal massacres in that location Cape Grim and Quamby Bluff. 'Quamby' has been interpreted as "Spare me." These are just the tip of the iceberg.
Tasmanian here;
All i have to say if you ask why we have so many weird names; have you met us? We're all weird down here
Understanding the penal colonial history of Australia and Tasmania, as well as the nature of the human sense of humor, your theory was my first guess too.
Far fewer Convicts were sent to Tasmania than Mainland Australia, Only the worst prisoners were sent to Port Arthur in Tasmania and for the most part the threat of sending unruly prisoners there was an extremely effective deterrent
I live in what was known once as Grassy Bottom ..officially from 1857 and for a decade or two before the actual town was called St.Marys . We're in the Fingal Valley . The town is just under 1000 people now . Grassy Bottom was more known as a place for convicts crews to be stationed to build the pass to the coast which was named St.Marys Pass . Quite an engineering feat and still carries a lot of traffic today . Tassie has a deep history both with indigenous , explorer and with British colonisation .
In Maria Island, there are some weird names like: Big Hill, Bottom Hill, Middle Hill, etc
Isn’t anyone gonna mention how there is a town in France named Condom.
@Jessica Mcdaniels Condom, France comes from Gaulish origin meaning "market or field, of the confluence" nothing to do with the English word.
should be Twinned with Dildo, Newfoundland, Canada...
@@modmaker7617 the origin doesn't have anything to do with the english meaning, but the modern word "Condom" has the same meaning in french & english (at least here in Quebec)
@@tsandman
I am not French. I read Wikipedia.
France 🇫🇷 has better French people than Quebec, Canada 🇨🇦. Quebeckers are xenophobic towards English-speakers.
@@modmaker7617 Thanks for presuming that I'm xenophobic.
This attitude is exactly the same that the "xenophobes" you are talking about have, tagging everyone of that is part of a large group with the same negative characteristics...
Yes, there are xenophobes French-canadian, I know & work with some of them. But there are xenophobe French, English, American, Japanese, etc.
Each group have their own problematic sub-group, and applying the negative behaviour of the sub-group to the whole makes you no better, it makes you part of the problem as you are doing exactly the same thing.
There are mountains in Lebanon called the nipples too but that might be an unofficial name
Lake Fanny reminds me of a co-worker I had that was named I shit you not "Fanny Tapper". Best name I ever heard.
did i see a place named "guys dirty hole" on the map?
You definitely did XD
That theory about it being due to convicts ending up there was actually how I almost immediately reasoned by the time Van Diemen's Land was mentioned in this video
Dont forget the little town of "Nowhere Else"one can say they have been to Nowhere else and mean it.
Oh hey the Tasman Peninsula is now a full time island and not just when the Dunalley Bridge is open !!!! :-P
also, if you don't know much about australian history... tasmania is the site of the most complete genocide of a native people in history, in this case by the english. not having a crack at name explain though.
definitely more worthy knowledge to have than the written history we've been force fed to try cover up the past. definitely like the vid tho, it's rad! thanks for chatting about my fav place on this earth :D
Tasmanian here
The reason why there are so many weird names in particular around Cradle Mountain/Kentish Region is because that region was settled by deeply religious people. Sheffield is a historically Christian town, hence all the names such as “Promised Land”
As for Eggs and Bacon Bay... well that’s named after the Eggs and Bacon flower which grows bountiful there. “Big Trumpeter” is similar: the Trumpeter fish that swims there.
As for Shag birds, many people still call them shags here, but most know them as cormorants.
Also another fun fact: The Apple Isle might also have to do with how Tasmania was where the first Australian apple tree was planted
I think the historian James Boyce attributes the naming of places to local settlers, some of whom may have been emancipist convicts (the idea of convicts having the power to name things is unlikely). The practice of names being formulated by settlers and being quite colloquial was quite common across Australia especially in the more remote and marginal areas in which the reach of officialdom was quite limited. According to Boyce, the then governor of NSW, Lachlan Macquarrie, visited Tasmania (VDL) twice: once in 1811 and again in 1820 and directed a major re-naming exercise that replaced very many locally named places. One of my favourites was the river running through Bothwell that Macquarrie renamed as 'the Clyde' (after the Scottish river). Its original settler name was the Fat Doe River. He also renamed a locality for his wife; hence the Campbell Town that Tasmanians consider to be the dividing line between the state's north and south. Just think: were it not for Macquarrie there may have been many more weird colloquial Tasmanian place names.
The term “Apple isle” definitely from tourism campaigns. However, I believe up until the U.K. joined the “Common Market “, Apple production was huge across the island. The Huon Valley near Hobart had Apple orchards as far as you could see, they all disappeared rapidly once the Common Market came into play...
Something similar happened in the American frontier. Some of the gold mining boomtowns had really weird names because they were all settled by young men looking for fortune. One town in California was called Lady's Crevice.
What im from Tasmania do people think that its uninhabited
I live just down the road from Cooee and quite close to Doctor's Rocks. Best place in the world.
I live on the east coast and to get to Hobart I drive over ‘bust me gall hill’ and ‘black Charlie’s opening’.
Tassie never gets any attention lmao this is surreal
Aye a tassie video, btw no one calls it the apple isle and the worst convicts were sent to tassie because they had the harshest gaols like at port arthur, maria island
Not all convicts that were sent to Tasmania was the worst of the worst, well not the female convicts. And you forgot Macquarie Harbour.
people always call us the apple isle.
For example, here
autoaction.com.au/2021/01/19/racing-returns-to-the-apple-isle
I know gaol is the correct and traditional spelling in Australia but it still looks so wrong to me
Jesus there are only half a million Tasmanians and the comments are full of them...
Like I live in Kansas which has almost 3 million people, and seen less Kansans in the comments of a video about Kansas
A Shag is a Cormerant. Not a flock of birds.
We have several species here in Tasmania.
People call it The Apple isle....
Tassie: “Am I a joke to you”?
True. We are the pu55y Isle, lol.
Seriously tho', apple isle fme.
Um have you looked at some UK place names? Shitterton, Brokenwind, Golden Balls, I could go on, it's pretty clear where we inherited hysterical place naming skills from.
i will have u know my state Tasmania was said to be the worst state but now that covid hit i don't see no one laughing
I know of a couple of people who have had visitors off the Spirit offer to buy their houses to move here to Tasmania. I'm just one person, so I bet there is heaps of it happening. And I've been watching real estate.com. The houses are being bought up at crazy high prices. I also went to a land auction recently. The lots were crap, and going for ridiculous amounts. Soon the Tasmanians will be going Fark that, I'm going to NSW to buy, it's cheaper. LOL.
From research into my family tree, an Irish 4th great-grandmother of mine was sent to Van Dieman’s Land in the early 1840s. My 3rd great-grandmother, in 1943, was the only one out of her siblings who were born on the island, the others were in Ireland and England.
I haven’t been able to figure out why she was sent there, if she was an actual convict or not, as the records aren’t so clear, and I’m limited in what I can find. Nonetheless, she wasn’t there for long, as she had more children born in England a few years later, so maybe she wasn’t a prisoner, I really don’t know.
Possibly the wife of a soldier accompanying him?
@@IsaacIsaacIsaacson - He was a bricklayer, according all the censuses I’ve looked at states, but I don’t know.
Ever considered the names were decided so that areas and place marks could be recognized by low education colonizers composed of convicts deported there?
When someone reached the nipples, they know exactly when they have. However if it was named “Aphrodite’s Nurture” they’d have no clue whether they were in the right place or not.
Theres a tiny town called "Flowerpot" which is always nice to drive through. "Break-me-neck hill", "Bust-me-gall hill" and "Mount Dromadary" because its shaped like a camel.
The convict are just sharing the petty when it gets back to England and making the rest of us smile to this day.
I think at 7:14 in the video, when you say that convicts weren't sent back to Britain after serving a sentence, this is misleading. Ex-convicts were not sent back as a government policy, but they were free to return to Britain and a fair few did. However after Sydney started to grow and take shape, many people realised that there was a lot of opportunity available to them in this new land, this would have been around the time John Macarthur was making his fortune in wool.
At the very beginning of the video “Bondee” 😂😂 its Bond-eye in Sydney.
I know two examples from Germany, in both cases, they discuss changing the towns name:
1) F*cking: -ing is a typical name for a village. I assume it means _village of._ In this case, it was named after a noble house, someone similar to Fugger, and over time the spelling deteriorated...
2) A village named after a river, which translates to the black river. It is written almost like the German word for the N-word and I'd like to add that the German version is far less judging, but still frowned upon...
PS: my first post of this got deleted by big brother YT...
I'm from Tassie, can't say I've ever heard of "The Apple Isle"
How old are you?
I live in Melbourne, Australia but just spent a few days in Tassie. I think the reason why the British colonized Tasmania when they did - as 2nd to Sydney - was due to Matthew Flinders and George Bass establishing that it was an island and the British needed to get a colony on it and claim it before the French did (sorry to any French people reading this!). Certainly Hobart was set up to guard against a French attack, there is even a suburb named 'Battery Point' where a battering ram was set up and ready. The penal colony of Hobart may not have been worse than those on the mainland but the later penal colonies at Port Arthur and Maria Island are known to have been harsher - especially the solitary confinement practices that went on at Port Arthur. From what I have read, Sarah Island - off the remote West Coast - was the worst for conditions. However, in the cases of Port Arthur, Maria Island and Sarah Island all of them were for repeat offenders and often the more violent, hardened criminals. Not all of them were transported initially for crimes related to poverty. For example, I know that there were a number of people involved in Ireland's drive for independence, or at least home rule, who were transported there. In my most recent visit to Hobart (which I came home from today) one thing that struck me was the similarity in the appearance of some of the cottages in the inner city to what I remember seeing in Ireland when I was last there in 2019. A lot of Irish were sent to Tassie and even Ned Kelly's parents were originally transported there. I would theorize that the nature of the place names might have even been a back-handed way of the Irish 'getting back' at the British for the troubles in their homeland - especially for the lack of assistance during the potato famine. Incidentally, not far from Port Arthur is a town called 'Doo-town.' It has houses/ businesses that are named 'Love me Doo,' and 'Dr Doolittle.'