@@TomleyRCso did you get it to work properly? I have the new b36-3 coming and totally want the fusion inthere! (I run it in 2 of my 1/10 traxxas and I love the control!)
I wouldn't have minded seeing a speed run if the pinion angles weren't quite so janky. I reckon it still needs at least some gear reduction for crawling though, amazing motor or not. Thanks for doing the experiment, I enjoyed immensely!
Put this in the b36 with the trailer.. you only have to put the 5th wheel on.. don't need 6x6 for that trailer due to how long and low it is makes offroad impractical
Love the idea, 100% not a fail though, the concept definitely works but needs a bit of refinement. I love the reviews but it's nice to see something a bit different every now and again.
Yes, not really a fail. A few tweaks and we’ll go again! I much prefer doing projects, but the reviews keep the channel going. But next year I have a few interesting ones to complete 😎👌
I´m glad you´ve decided not to just give up on this idea. I think it´s fascinating, and I sort f want it to work as a vindication of WPL´s design ethos. If anyone can do it, Phil, you can : )
@@TomleyRC Oodles of torque and very subtle fine control...brilliant! By the way, whatever happened to your WL Toys 1:12 scale M35 "mudder"? I´ve been hoping to see more of it, as I´m working on my own one at the moment.
Didn't think the lack of noise would bother me but oddly it does, don't know why but I like the sounds crawlers make, almost as if its the "strain" sort of noise as its trying to eek its way across whatever you throw at it .
A distant wind blows, the light grows to a golden warming, familiar, glow,and in the distance you hear the desert fox. . . 😅 howling like a beast. Any way, eighty six one twenty, is the recording track number, you shoukd check that out. 😅 peace bro as always love the show, such as it is. Lol
Interesting project. Should be interesting to see how this goes. If you do make it 6 wheel drive,you should go the extra step and make it 6 wheel steer as well,lol. That would be something to see.
I just bought a HW Fusion motor for my trx4 sport - its ridiculous how quiet it is and how it performs . Wow...just wow...great idea for the vid Phil ☺
Very interesting project, great idea, maybe flip the motor, so shaft points to front, mount in the bed, with a faux generator cover, that way you could even gear the transfer case ?? As opposed to drive shaft. Would love to see that motor in a d12 chassis, with a C54 body on it.... Drag/drift build...
My suggestion would be to go for a wpl B36 truck instead so you can install a gear box to have 6x6 and if the motor needs to be installed at a higher position it can be hidden under the closed box the B36 has :)
GREAT idea trying direct drive on a Hobbywing ROC system but alas, maybe that truck just isn't the right configuration for that idea. I hope you get it sorted with a transfer case but boy, that silence was damned NICE!
I'll be looking any more videos on this build,, I bought a similar vehicle that came with optional tracks and a very under powered motor that got me thinking of swapping out the drive system because the tracks really strain the motor...
So after hearing so many people talk so poorly about wpl for so long I started watching videos on them. Then kinda fell in love with the size and mods that could be done to them. So I ordered one just after Christmas. It should be here in a few weeks. I did go with the KM kit and I went with an aftermarket transmitter, esc and batteries but that's because I have a few others trucks your responsesable of me ordering. And I feel like if I'm going to do it I want to have the same transmitter in my hand for every model. I'll let you know how it all turns out. Didn't know you had a drawling going on for wpl but I got me covered. There is far more people out there that would be better off winning that. Good on you for taking care of your subs and WPL. Cheers mate.
Yes, WPL didn't have a good name a little while back, but they have been working really hard to get things right. I love that they keep on improving things.
Mini summit Trans could be an option for a transmission, quite small, fits that fusion, 2 gearing options in the Trans without buying any parts, 4mm output shafts. I used one to make a powered trailer to go actual crawling with it.
Interesting project! I think driveshaft problem aside, you might need lower KV ideally too, 1800KV is quite a lot for direct drive. Having a huge RPM range squashed into the same throttle travel, it can be hard to make smooth/slow progress without any reduction gearing and only the diffs. I tried a 900KV outrunner centrally mounted in an HSP truck a while back with drive going direct to the front and back diffs and even at 900KV it went like a rocket without the reduction gearing. Slower motor or transfer box would probably help a lot. Surprising how much difference losing the drive to the front wheels too!
insanity for sure, MN's 260 motor+gearbox with a 280 motor slapped in is nice, the 2 speed or the countering gearbox with a 370 motor is far more than enough. if you could find a low Kv 24 mm motor to slip into any of the gearboxes above, it'd probably tow a small child on a tricycle anyway
@@TomleyRC LOLOMGROFL... just use two double shaft 775 motors and bolt the wheels on them direct drive, it'd be about the right width hey? 775 is about the size of the Graupner 700 Turbo motor I replaced in the old ElectroVee, was pretty fast on 14.4v but much more fun now with a 2300kv 3670 brushless. might need wings to hold the truck down after 20 mph and it'd probably be a 60 mph 4x6 if you could find someplace large+smooth enough to run it.. it might even keep up with scale dragsters.
Great project Bro!! I like a lot it is so quite ( silence), and overpowered!! Yeahh!! Very nice motor. You can do this thing Boom Bro! Have a great weekend Yeaah!!
Pretty fantastic work, dude! Nicely done! 😃 There are the bigger geared motors from WPL... You know? Their mounting are aluminum and they just use 2 or 3 gears, if I'm not mistaken, to transfer the motion. So... Maybe you could modify one of those? You could put even in a 4x4 to try. 😃 Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Pretty funny to see one of these Trucks actually rip and throw dirt back lol Tbh is thought it would blow apart right away hahaha nice. on 6x4 you should also remove the axle to let the tires spin seperately 6x6 would be really cool too
I would talk to your friend and see if they can make a transfer case the same size and design as the original but where it can mount the bigger motor. you will have 6x6 again and a lot more fun. In fact that is what i thought you were gonna do, I have been wondering how i would be able to get a bigger motor to mate up with the original transfer case. Good idea, but back to the drawing board my friend.
Lol man that motor is so silent, hmm I think you was pulling the model along with string mate 😂😂 Such a cool project, I have no doubt your sort it one way or another but Phil what you doing, you could of sent the fusion to me to put in my Christmas trx4 build lol. Have a good weekend mate 👍
So did you ever get the problem resolved? I’ve went back through your videos, but haven’t found one where you put in a transfer case, or anything else concerning the B16 upgrade you started. Just curious if you fixed it. You did get me to thinking about going brushless though.
Awesome video! I feel the 6x6 may cause the motor to cut out even more, but if it works it'll be a weapon! Also has anyone mounted C chassis shocks to a B chassis? You could make something Really capable
Hey tomley, which one should i get : WPL B16 (stock 130 motor) or MZ YY2003 (stock 380 motor) ? . The WPL is slightly more expensive. But i know that you didn't really like the toy grade wheels on the MZ so i don't know which one to get.
Nice attempt! Mine with a dual brushed motors in a similar chinese 6WD truck turned out more successful :-P ! Those 3D files are available somewhere for free??
Love this project. I wander if anybody could advise me on how to adjust my servo epa I have a c44km with wpl v3 electronics but my steering is all wrong turns too far can I get a different controller and adjust or do I need a full esc upgrade or a different servo or a tool to set travel I'm a noob please help lol loving all the rc goodness keep it up tomley.
@@MCsCreations haha, winter isn't it. With lockdown there's only so many times you can fly your whoop around your house before you want something less weather dependent. They are stupid expensive though, trying to work myself up to an arrma typhon 3s. Nano drak might win though.
just waterproof it yourself, conformal coating to the internal board then thick grease to all the seams and around the output shaft. near any servo will be pretty darn waterproof after doing it, its also pretty easy.
![The New [MASSIVE] $89 WPL Tractor & Trailer!](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/VGg8WM-EFNw/mqdefault.jpg)
I love these projects! It's definitely not a fail, it's the first part of a win!
Yes you are right... only the 1st go, more to come 😎
So much potential in this idea, the transfer case is a must . Looking forward to the next episode on this 6X6 💪💪👍👍
Yes, transfer case is the next stage I think
@@TomleyRC ; mod stage 2 ! :-)
@@TomleyRC did you end up getting this working? I just got a B16 for Christmas
I totally agreed! I had high hopes when I saw the first bit of the video and saw the fusion motor, I was like YEEEEES 😂
@@TomleyRCso did you get it to work properly? I have the new b36-3 coming and totally want the fusion inthere! (I run it in 2 of my 1/10 traxxas and I love the control!)
Fantastic idea! I thought it worked pretty well. It Will be super efficient with less gears in the system
Yes, a few tweaks and I think it’ll be really good!
Nice looking truck. Looks like a fun project. Looking forward to the final product.
I have checked out the WPL new website site. Looking forward to my first WPL.. I just can't wait for it.
Thanks for sharing.. 👍
No probs dude
I wouldn't have minded seeing a speed run if the pinion angles weren't quite so janky. I reckon it still needs at least some gear reduction for crawling though, amazing motor or not. Thanks for doing the experiment, I enjoyed immensely!
Yes, more work needed
Put this in the b36 with the trailer.. you only have to put the 5th wheel on.. don't need 6x6 for that trailer due to how long and low it is makes offroad impractical
Love the idea, 100% not a fail though, the concept definitely works but needs a bit of refinement. I love the reviews but it's nice to see something a bit different every now and again.
Yes, not really a fail. A few tweaks and we’ll go again! I much prefer doing projects, but the reviews keep the channel going. But next year I have a few interesting ones to complete 😎👌
More of this please!
would love to see the second part to this!
I´m glad you´ve decided not to just give up on this idea. I think it´s fascinating, and I sort f want it to work as a vindication of WPL´s design ethos.
If anyone can do it, Phil, you can : )
Cheers Del. I’m sure once a transfer case is in there and it’s 6x6 it’ll be awesome!
@@TomleyRC Oodles of torque and very subtle fine control...brilliant!
By the way, whatever happened to your WL Toys 1:12 scale M35 "mudder"? I´ve been hoping to see more of it, as I´m working on my own one at the moment.
The M35 chassis was planned for a Tonka conversion, I think (I hope) it’s in my lock up. Maybe I’ll get that finished next year!
@@TomleyRC That´s an awesome and exciting idea - I hoe it eventually comes to fruition!
Didn't think the lack of noise would bother me but oddly it does, don't know why but I like the sounds crawlers make, almost as if its the "strain" sort of noise as its trying to eek its way across whatever you throw at it .
Yeah, it is a bit weird being so quiet haha
I miss that noisy sound, so used to it hahaa! 😅 ..And definitely need all six wheel drive 😁. Can't wait to see the next video..👍
Yes, hopefully 6x6 coming
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Lovely old landy! 👀
A distant wind blows, the light grows to a golden warming, familiar, glow,and in the distance you hear the desert fox. . . 😅 howling like a beast. Any way, eighty six one twenty, is the recording track number, you shoukd check that out. 😅 peace bro as always love the show, such as it is. Lol
Haha, cheers dude
Interesting project. Should be interesting to see how this goes. If you do make it 6 wheel drive,you should go the extra step and make it 6 wheel steer as well,lol. That would be something to see.
Awesome project! And here I was , all exited from printing myself a dual 370 mount for my b24 :p . Another one to follow.
Wow Badass 😈 waiting for 6x6 drive
I just bought a HW Fusion motor for my trx4 sport - its ridiculous how quiet it is and how it performs . Wow...just wow...great idea for the vid Phil ☺
Yes, it’s an awesome motor!
I love this idea. Great job and definitely looking forward to its progress.
Thanks
Makes for a great scale truck drive train though, nice job, I like it.
Very interesting project, great idea, maybe flip the motor, so shaft points to front, mount in the bed, with a faux generator cover, that way you could even gear the transfer case ?? As opposed to drive shaft.
Would love to see that motor in a d12 chassis, with a C54 body on it.... Drag/drift build...
Faux generator sounds like a very cool idea!
My suggestion would be to go for a wpl B36 truck instead so you can install a gear box to have 6x6 and if the motor needs to be installed at a higher position it can be hidden under the closed box the B36 has :)
Yeah that’s good idea 👍🏻
@@TomleyRC dont forget a hidden sound kit
GREAT idea trying direct drive on a Hobbywing ROC system but alas, maybe that truck just isn't the right configuration for that idea. I hope you get it sorted with a transfer case but boy, that silence was damned NICE!
Yes, hopefully with a transfer case it will be a little better
I'll be looking any more videos on this build,, I bought a similar vehicle that came with optional tracks and a very under powered motor that got me thinking of swapping out the drive system because the tracks really strain the motor...
Bit of fun, but it needs the motor going further forward and we could drop the motor slightly. But transfer case 6wd be good fun
So after hearing so many people talk so poorly about wpl for so long I started watching videos on them. Then kinda fell in love with the size and mods that could be done to them. So I ordered one just after Christmas. It should be here in a few weeks. I did go with the KM kit and I went with an aftermarket transmitter, esc and batteries but that's because I have a few others trucks your responsesable of me ordering. And I feel like if I'm going to do it I want to have the same transmitter in my hand for every model. I'll let you know how it all turns out. Didn't know you had a drawling going on for wpl but I got me covered. There is far more people out there that would be better off winning that. Good on you for taking care of your subs and WPL. Cheers mate.
Yes, WPL didn't have a good name a little while back, but they have been working really hard to get things right. I love that they keep on improving things.
Hey, how did it go? I’m about to order my first wpl, a c-24-1-km
With a metal transfer case c34 metal shafts mid axle correction kit and the motor in the front where the battery goes it will work
Yes, good idea
@@TomleyRC I forgot to mention a reduction gear for the motor to increase the torque that will convert it into a beast
My next wpl brushless is a 6x6! Great idea! I think I'll go 180 rocket in the stock gearbox instead of 2 speed this time
Mini summit Trans could be an option for a transmission, quite small, fits that fusion, 2 gearing options in the Trans without buying any parts, 4mm output shafts. I used one to make a powered trailer to go actual crawling with it.
very awesome i love it thanks
Tomley
Interesting project!
I think driveshaft problem aside, you might need lower KV ideally too, 1800KV is quite a lot for direct drive. Having a huge RPM range squashed into the same throttle travel, it can be hard to make smooth/slow progress without any reduction gearing and only the diffs.
I tried a 900KV outrunner centrally mounted in an HSP truck a while back with drive going direct to the front and back diffs and even at 900KV it went like a rocket without the reduction gearing.
Slower motor or transfer box would probably help a lot.
Surprising how much difference losing the drive to the front wheels too!
Yes lower KV would help. I was expecting a little more from it that I got. Hopefully doing 6x6 will sort it out!
insanity for sure, MN's 260 motor+gearbox with a 280 motor slapped in is nice,
the 2 speed or the countering gearbox with a 370 motor is far more than enough.
if you could find a low Kv 24 mm motor to slip into any of the gearboxes above,
it'd probably tow a small child on a tricycle anyway
Yes, lots of options. This big motor is the craziest, so that’s what we’ll stick with lol. I also have a mount for a 775 motor!
@@TomleyRC LOLOMGROFL... just use two double shaft 775 motors and bolt the wheels on them direct drive, it'd be about the right width hey?
775 is about the size of the Graupner 700 Turbo motor I replaced in the old ElectroVee, was pretty fast on 14.4v but much more fun now with a 2300kv 3670 brushless. might need wings to hold the truck down after 20 mph and it'd probably be a 60 mph 4x6 if you could find someplace large+smooth enough to run it.. it might even keep up with scale dragsters.
Great video
Thanks mate
6x6 arrangment this has got potencial
Let it rip 👊 nice project
A few teaks and it ‘should’ be pretty crazy!
Yessssss I love this guy
Great project Bro!! I like a lot it is so quite ( silence), and overpowered!! Yeahh!! Very nice motor. You can do this thing Boom Bro! Have a great weekend Yeaah!!
Yes, more to come from this!
I dream to make WPL trucks like Dakar rally trucks and cars with brushless set up. Do you think its possible to make it with 30-40km/h speed?
Pretty fantastic work, dude! Nicely done! 😃
There are the bigger geared motors from WPL... You know? Their mounting are aluminum and they just use 2 or 3 gears, if I'm not mistaken, to transfer the motion.
So... Maybe you could modify one of those? You could put even in a 4x4 to try. 😃
Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Yes, going to try a transfer box to make it 6x6
Wow that is so quiet. Its almost like there's no motor in that.
Yes, a bit strange when it’s driving along lol
Pretty funny to see one of these Trucks actually rip and throw dirt back lol Tbh is thought it would blow apart right away hahaha nice. on 6x4 you should also remove the axle to let the tires spin seperately 6x6 would be really cool too
Thanks for your sharing
No probs dude
@@TomleyRC ; You are a true rc enthusiast
Professional model building. Hit and Hope😂
Put a planetary gearset between the motor and driveshaft to get some gear reduction. Should be just an extra inch or so to adjust the motor.
Very nice job even if the result isn’t what you expected...
Thanks mate
As bob mortimer would say "WPL With Added FirePony!"
I would talk to your friend and see if they can make a transfer case the same size and design as the original but where it can mount the bigger motor. you will have 6x6 again and a lot more fun. In fact that is what i thought you were gonna do, I have been wondering how i would be able to get a bigger motor to mate up with the original transfer case. Good idea, but back to the drawing board my friend.
Lol man that motor is so silent, hmm I think you was pulling the model along with string mate 😂😂
Such a cool project, I have no doubt your sort it one way or another but Phil what you doing, you could of sent the fusion to me to put in my Christmas trx4 build lol.
Have a good weekend mate 👍
Amazing 🔥
So did you ever get the problem resolved? I’ve went back through your videos, but haven’t found one where you put in a transfer case, or anything else concerning the B16 upgrade you started. Just curious if you fixed it. You did get me to thinking about going brushless though.
Good project Tomley!
I'd like to know, why is the heat shrink wrap on the drive shaft? :)
Stops the driveshaft from moving about to much.
Awesome video! I feel the 6x6 may cause the motor to cut out even more, but if it works it'll be a weapon!
Also has anyone mounted C chassis shocks to a B chassis? You could make something Really capable
"shelf queen rc" fitted the 4 link and shocks to a D-12 frame
Поставить раздатку на передний мост,сделать полный привод,так крутящий момент распределяться будет между тремя мостами😎
Hey tomley, which one should i get : WPL B16 (stock 130 motor) or MZ YY2003 (stock 380 motor) ? . The WPL is slightly more expensive. But i know that you didn't really like the toy grade wheels on the MZ so i don't know which one to get.
for 2 speed gearbox when you play for long time it will not melt the gearbox??
Hi
newbie question .... what is the effect of installing a 280 in place of a 180 motor, or dual motor carwler
thanks
ive got 2 questions one is it a good offroader stock and two are you gonna do a topspeed run?
Wow this is good with that motor can’t belive the motor is like 4 x more expensive than the truck lol
Yeah, not cheap haha
Are sensored motors worth the cost compared to sensored ones?
Nice attempt! Mine with a dual brushed motors in a similar chinese 6WD truck turned out more successful :-P ! Those 3D files are available somewhere for free??
WCP don’t give out the files. All products are custom designed and printed.
Can you do that with MN trucks ?
Yeah I expect so
You should do a speed run on it as is
Mantap om?saya upgrade yang pakai brushed..
Cool idea,fix the problems like you said and let it rip
Hopefully 😎
*notices the mcm poster in the background during intro* this bloke must have taste!
Yes haha. Hand Signed by them as well :)
As in mighty car mods?
Wow that's awesome :) yes bash that's the one marty & moog!
Hello merci pour tes vidéos j ai le même truck que j ai monté en brushless 6000kv 2 speed ; )
Drivetrain is designed for a 180. It's like putting a Cummins diesel in a Prius. Something is going to take a 💩.
Yeah, that’s all part of the fun 😅
@@TomleyRC Run, break, fix, repeat! lol
Try 1080 in normal 2speed gear box in 3s!!? Thanks
Love this project. I wander if anybody could advise me on how to adjust my servo epa I have a c44km with wpl v3 electronics but my steering is all wrong turns too far can I get a different controller and adjust or do I need a full esc upgrade or a different servo or a tool to set travel I'm a noob please help lol loving all the rc goodness keep it up tomley.
YesSiRr!! 😎👊👍🤙🔥💯!!
Come on more power !
Reminds me of top gear.
Get another brushless motor but get it from Banggood and put it in a 4x2 wpl.
“See if you can hear it”
“While it’s silent”😝
Hahahaha
where do you get your drivers from?
Toy shops usually
How tall are they usually? I bought a pack of 6 that were 4 inches tall and that is to big what is the ideal height?
How did this turn out then….!?! Part 2???
I'd love to see what one of these could do in a lightweight basher or buggy with appropriate gearing. Best of all worlds?
Hey, dude! You around here as well? 😃
@@MCsCreations haha, winter isn't it. With lockdown there's only so many times you can fly your whoop around your house before you want something less weather dependent. They are stupid expensive though, trying to work myself up to an arrma typhon 3s. Nano drak might win though.
@@frasersteen Yeah, they really are! 😬
I have 2 WPLs here, that I use for FPV exploring. You know? And I have absolutely no complaints. 😊
as soon as i saw the thumbnail i was like uh oh
Speed test that rc..😁😁😁
Yes, I think so!
do you have the files you made on the WPL B16 for the motor mount still?
I didn’t make it mate. Link in the description
@@TomleyRC i think the link is broken, if posable can you send me the link to the files or posable send them?
Are there Waterproof WPL servos? If yes pls tell me were to get them from.
just waterproof it yourself, conformal coating to the internal board then thick grease to all the seams and around the output shaft. near any servo will be pretty darn waterproof after doing it, its also pretty easy.
@@modelnutty6503 Yeah, THX
Speed run?
Wow
Booooorrred me to sweep! I meant sleep 💤 😴 lol no point in the idea but nice to know who has money to blow!🤣
Motor was free and the B16 cost me about $20 😎 RC has no rules.... do whatever you want 😉👌
Mantap bang keren senggol dong 👍😁👍👍
Good try body looks good thou
WHY??
Because you can💪🏻😁
Exactly 😎
wooow
Worlds fastest wpl round 2????
Yeah, I reckon so lol
666 views??? Thats a bit devilish!
no gearbox you can put 550 next time
Can you say in Pounds and not dollars only?
The US Dollar is the most popular currency world wide. If I say it in £ only 18% of my audience will know what I’m talking about
Hello my truck hobbywing 5700kv 3s gear boxe 2speed ces top
Turn foc on and that motor will break everything on that truck in a second
Needs to be 6 wheel drive
Has anyone tried to make this into an RV rc car?
Not so bad too either
Primero
It's funny ; but is not 6x6 now :-(. A 2845 or 2435 brushless is easier to install than this 540 type brushless ; '- O . :' - D
Yeah but over the top is fun lol
@@TomleyRC ; I like your idea of putting a big motor in this little vehicle :-D
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