Dulu saya sering mendengar Nama Batavia di tahun 90an . Di mana ye😅??? Masa itu kan belum ada google dan RUclips 😂 rupanya Jakarta itu sebelumnya adalah Batavia . Lama juga indonesia dijajah belanda sama lah dengan negara saya yang pernah di jajah inggeris 🤚🏾🇲🇾salam dari Kuala Lumpur 🇲🇾🇲🇾🇲🇾
kontroversi penjajahan , yang di ajarkan di mata pelajaran sejarah yang kita lihat hanya penderitaan dan penindasan dibalik semua itu belanda membuat indonesia lebih maju saat itu , bahkan mereka memberikan fasilitas kesehatan, pendidikan untuk rakyat pribumi dijaman dulu, hanya perbedaan kesenjangan kasta untuk rakyat pribumi , dan belanda mengeksploitasi sumber daya alam indonesia demi kepentingan sendiri, tapi apa bedanya dengan pemerintah sekarang, lebih parah pemerintahan yang sekarang kan?.. jika belanda masih memegang kekuasaan hingga sekarang, mungkin indonesia akan menjadi negara belanda versi kedua sekarang, banyak orang mix belanda indo , tata kota lebih indah seperti di belanda, mungkin setara australia.
Such a beauty, the peacefull city of Batavia. Trams and much green. Happy people. If the Japanese did not come. Then the Dutch stayed longer. And later they could finish their Job. Because they were so in love with the whole country and the sensitive very kind people. They did not want the killings. The goodbye was to fast, spoiled by hysterical Sukarno and the dangerous killing Japanese. The Dutch still had many Plans, to make the Colony for all better. And much later they could give it back to the lovely people.
@@sjakvermeulen1318 The Dutch didn't want to give the country back to the native people, therefore they launched the so called Police Actions after Indonesia declared itself independent on 17 august 1945.
I was born in 1976. In 1980's the cityscape of Indonesian markets, streets, street vendors, foodstalls didn't change much from 1941's. The differences between 1941's and 1980's were less white Europeans in the streets, less bicycles (motorcycles started to became popular), less old cars (of course :-D ), and less luxurious cars (more visibly luxurious cars only make comeback in 2000's Indonesia).
Of course less luxurious cars in 1980's. Netherlands Indie was an South East Asian economic superpower until 2nd WW. Indonesia regained this position only after massive economic developments of 2005s. Thats why luxury cars navigate city streets of both 1930-40's Netherlands Indie and present day 2020's Indonesia.
Plislah Belanda kembali lagi, kota kota di Indonesia sekarang jadi jelek ga seperti dulu, pejabatnya korupt, Jakarta sinking, please come backk.. come backk..
Back then he gets money for the work he does, and goes home to a clean house and a loving family. Today the same kid is walking the streets that you wouldn't even let a stray dog walk on. And hes selling second-hand cigarettes risking to get mugged for the few cents he got from working. Which isn't even enough to buy him food for the day. Back then, order. Clean streets and everything works. Today, they turn off the electricity in certain blocks at a time because the government didn't pay the electricity company...
Yes, it is indeed sad to see how the Dutch treated the Indonesian people, they should have negotiated with Sukarno and Hatta before the war and transferred power to the Indonesian people instead they had to be kicked out loosing every thing unlike the British who were never kicked out of their colonies rather chose to grant independence and form the British commonwealth, they left these countries with the English language, Indonesian don't speak Dutch
…not quite accurate. I met some elderly Indonesian people in the 80’s and 90’s that still spoke Dutch. I also met young Indonesians that did. They learned Dutch to be able to study books about their own country written in Dutch. For instance books about culture and habits of indigenous tribes written by Dutch scientists.
Dit zijn de beelden der herinnering te Nederlandsch-Indië. Alles wat mooi is voorbij. Batavia is nu lelijk. Jakarta kotor. Ada polusi udara dan ada polusi air. Nu is Djakarta niet de hoofdstad dezes lands. Presiden Jokowi sudah memindahkan ibukota ke Kalimantan.
Mengherankan yg katanya dulu di jajah bukannya porak poranda tapi ternyata sebaliknya.. Dimana mana negara jajahan itu pasti hancur hancuran lahh ini malah bagus dan rapi
😂 yah jelas lah rapi wong untuk mereka cari duit infrastrukturnya pasti dibangung untuk menunjang perekonomian mereka, tapi yg bisa nikmatin adalah bangsa belanda, sebagai kelas penguasa... Masyarakat pribuminya?, hanya jadi jongos ditanah sendiri dan selalu kena tindas kalau bukan terlahir sebagai seorang Bangsawan... Yang diutamakan hanyalah kalangan belanda sebagai kelas penguasa...
Saya tahu bahwa orang Belanda sangat menyukai alam. Mereka umumnya orang-orang yang paling naturalis di dunia. Anda ke Belanda sekarang bagai masuk dalam sebuah kebun yang rindang. Peta topografi hutan yang dibuat Belanda sangatlah bermanfaat buat Indonesia meskipun peta itu diabaikan oleh penguasa sehingga rusaklah hutan Indonesia.
Belanda jauh lebih becus mengurus negeri ini sebagai kontraktor dan administrator. Sistemnya rusak akibat sifat tamak dan munafik dari penguasa lokal. Pada akhirnya malah mengkambing hitamkan periode bersama Belanda sebagai masa penjajahan. Padahal aslinya adalah kotrak dagang.
@@tjlu47 ya.. dia gak tau seukuran taman kota saja dibilang hutan disana.. kebetulan kerabat saya tinggal di Ermelo, masih wilayah Zuid Holland, dan dia sangat membanggakan hutan seukuran 1 kelurahan itu.. Lain kali pakai data yang valid, jangan asal bilang data aja kyk si onoh 🤭🤭
@@un-dprssre Andai dia tahu kalau sampah-sampah plastik dan limbah dari Belanda dikirim ke Asia Tenggara terutama Indonesia, itulah kenapa Belanda bersih dan terkesan seolah-olah mereka sangat menjaga alam dan kebersihan. Padahal karena sampahnya dikirim berton-ton ke Indonesia setiap tahun bahkan bulan 😂
If bersiap period never happened and Soekarno let just Dutch people who born in Indonesia live, Indonesia will be more diverse than today and also will be the South Africa version of Asia
soekarno heeft meermaals gezegd dat Indonesië het land van de kansarmen (wong tjilik) was en dat is nu (meer dan zeven decennia later) nog steeds het geval.
Helaas wel. Een ieder die kan vlucht weg. T is een totale fale state. Bij elkaar gehouden door t feit dat er geen uitzicht is op iets beters als er afscheiding zou plaatsvinden. Uitzichtloos.
@@ArisBudiyanto-sf7rb G20 membership?not guarantee your ability to escape poverty and corruption (indonesia corruption ranking is 34 and lebanon is 1 out of 180 countries) ... your people unable to drink water directly from tab (have to buy "gallon") unable to directly cook (have to buy "gas tabong" your govt unable to gas-grid all households). your bea tjokai is a group of pirates at airports to get tipped from goods valued $ 1500 upwards .... the so called crazy rich individuals 1 by 1 found stealing from public funds and millions are living at refuse stations including bantar gebang. these are facts you may be try to deny with justifications "indonesia is a country of hundred of millions" .... ha ha ha
Jaman belanda lebih bersih dan tertib. Gak macet minim polusi, liat aja tu kali airnya gabanyak sampah. Jaman orde baru aja semuanya berubah gara' sentralisasi.
@@simplyyellow6240 kere tetap ada dan setidaknya punya mobil, g semua yg bermobil kaya lho, yg kere banyak, tp kere per kapita jaman sekarang lebih sedikit dari rasio kere jaman belanda.
@@jokopramudito1917 nah itu masalahnya, jaman dlu kere tertib dan rata, skr kere gak tertib, bikin ulah dijalan raya, macet, polusi dll. Liat liputan belanda jaman skr, wlopun mreka pada tajir tp ttp rendah hati kemana' naik sepeda, karna selain mreka punya kesadaran thd lingkungan, dri pemerintah jg mengkampanyekan gaya hidup sederhana gak materialistis. Jmn skr orng ampe jual diri buat dapetin kekayaan. Hasilnya...Masalah dimana'.
oh tidak, jaman dulu, semua warga yg sekarang ini WNI adalah warga negara kelas 3, kelas 2 nya arab, china dan timur jauh, warga negara kelas 1 tentu saja belanda totok dan eropa. Gak percaya? liat saja semua foto kuno hindia belanda, semua belanda pakai pakaian serba putih (dimana kita sendiri males pakai pakaian putih karena ini negara tropis, berdebu, tanah dimana mana), sudah jelas positioning nya kalau pribumi disetel kere. Kalau sekarang banyak kere g tertib, ya itu sih oknum kog, yg tertib lho banyak juga, di luar indonesia juga kere g tertib juga banyak lho. Btw, meskipun negara ini spt ini, kesempatan utk berkembang banyak, kecuali bagi mereka yg g mau mikir lebih lho ya.
@@un-dprssre I don’t know. Do you know that people in the Netherlands were forced to work in factories too for very long work days and under harsh conditions ? Happened everywhere during that time. Around 1900 things started to improve, and then also the conditions for people in Dutch East Indies started to improve.
@@Mark-xd5up and do you know what happen with indische in 1900…? Work without salary until die.. owh.. my opa nederlander, maar ik ben indonesichs.. my tante living in Leiden, every year I'm visit my family in nederland.. but, colonialism.. voor iedereen is kolonialisme niet goed.. bedankt
@@un-dprssre Did you think Indonesia would be Indonesia without Dutch influence? It would have been a warzone. Between all the different ethnic groups and islands. Because it was like that before the Dutch ever set foot on the islands. Each tribe each island each greater power in the archipelago fought for dominance. Up until the Dutch and British took hold. And a lot of Indonesians back then had it good. Better than most do today. I'm sorry but I know Indonesia and it's corrupt to the core. With only the capital and the rich elite hoarding all the money. When disasters hit the outer islands, tough luck for them. And even the regulatory bodies at the government level take bribes... I know first hand.
@@dgray3771 thank you for the impressive colonialism, slavery and murder... I suggest you go to one of the civilization museums in Leiden so you understand how happy we were when we were colonized and murdered, just as happy as you were, when the Nazis ruled Europe
@@un-dprssre Anda tau darimana nggk dibayar? Kekek buyut gw Kerja rel tapi di Bayar anjirrr. Klo patokan mu pada Buku sejarah, that's a bullshit 😂 Edit : klo lu mksd jaman jepang baru gw setuju
Ik ben Japans. Bedankt voor je waardevolle video. Vroeger was er veel racisme. Een Nederlands kind dat in een landhuis woonde en een arm Indonesisch kind dat op straat goederen verkocht, hadden het moeilijk. In die tijd konden Indonesische kinderen niet naar school, en zelfs als ze goede cijfers hadden, konden ze niet naar de universiteit. Het waren echter wij Japanse soldaten die het onderwijs voor Indonesische kinderen mogelijk maakten.
Totale onzin. Waar denk je dat Sukarno, Suharto etc op school hadden gezeten? Sukarno had op de technische hoge school in Bandung gezeten... :/ Ja in de jaren 30... Daar was gewoon een hoge school. En daar zaten gewoon Indonesiërs op school. En als je denkt dat iedereen in Indonesië op school zou moeten zitten net als in Nederland. Newsflash, dat was zelfs niet zo in Nederland in de jaren 30... De nieuwe leiders van Indonesië na de onafhankelijkheid hadden allemaal hoger onderwijs gehad aan scholen die er waren. Die gerund werden door de Nederlandse overheid tot toen.
Around 100,000 Indonesians by Dutch military actions. Around 2,5 million by the Japanse during the Japanese occupation (also due to malnutrition and poor living conditions in the camps). I don’t think you should compare it to Nazi Germany though as the Nazi’s killed because of other reasons and their numbers are estimated around 5 million.
It’s said way to easy to compare any unwanted force with nazi’s. Just as lot’s of people get compared to as well these days. If someone is wrong in any ones eyes, he’s just like the nazi’s. Of course colonialism wasn’t good at all. It brought only good to people who were white, mostly. Indonesian people got educated by the Dutch, they gave them a home (sometimes a loving home) and food. The Dutch just didn’t kill Indonesians like Germans/nazi’s did to jews for example. With that said, also the Indonesians killed lots of “belanda’s” to. Does that justify anything? No. Not at all sir. Times were just different then.
@@LekkerRekkenYT alot of dutch killed by the indonesian? Ofcourse because you wanted to ruled our country in our own land. Time just different back in the day doesn't justify what the dutch did to us, we literally being enslaved and being the 3rd class citizen in our own land . Also indonesian got educated by the dutch? We weren't even allowed to attended school due to being the 3rd class citizen
@@newbabies923 you didn’t get your historical facts straight kid. Dutch didn’t kill dutch, i dont know on what that was a reply? Yes, the freedom and nationalistic movement in Indonesia is originated from native Indonesians who got an education. They were the leading and philosopher branch of the freedom movement and realized they were just opressed and indeed enslaved by a foreign enitity. Even i must say, this was only the case on Java. For the rest of Indonesia (which doesn’t have just 1 sort of citizen, the country has 100’s of different cultures and people) they didn’t know what was happening. Until the time the dutch left, the lands were open to colonize for the new Indonesian governement. Which colonized and enslaved the outer regions of the archipelago. So how are you even better of?
@@LekkerRekkenYT who says dutch kill dutch? Ofcourse dutch didn't kill dutch because it's your own people, but dutch killed alot of indonesian and ensalved us. Also i am Bugis not from Java, and the people in Celebes aware especially what you did to our sultans, dutch took their land. There was literally bugis ppl who fought against the dutch . Those indonesian who didn't know what was going on mostly the tribal ppl who were not exposed to the world. This is what happens when a colonizer trying to white wash the history of their past. Dutch didn't even fully learn about what they did to our ppl in their school, not so surprising
Dulu saya sering mendengar Nama Batavia di tahun 90an . Di mana ye😅??? Masa itu kan belum ada google dan RUclips 😂 rupanya Jakarta itu sebelumnya adalah Batavia . Lama juga indonesia dijajah belanda sama lah dengan negara saya yang pernah di jajah inggeris 🤚🏾🇲🇾salam dari Kuala Lumpur 🇲🇾🇲🇾🇲🇾
Waktu th 1970 masih gini loh persis... saya sd
Hotel des indes gajah mada dibongkar tahun 1971 3:55, trem dihilangkan di jakarta tahun 1960an 4:11, amsterdam poort dibongkar tahun 1950an 4:28
kontroversi penjajahan , yang di ajarkan di mata pelajaran sejarah yang kita lihat hanya penderitaan dan penindasan dibalik semua itu belanda membuat indonesia lebih maju saat itu , bahkan mereka memberikan fasilitas kesehatan, pendidikan untuk rakyat pribumi dijaman dulu, hanya perbedaan kesenjangan kasta untuk rakyat pribumi , dan belanda mengeksploitasi sumber daya alam indonesia demi kepentingan sendiri, tapi apa bedanya dengan pemerintah sekarang, lebih parah pemerintahan yang sekarang kan?.. jika belanda masih memegang kekuasaan hingga sekarang, mungkin indonesia akan menjadi negara belanda versi kedua sekarang, banyak orang mix belanda indo , tata kota lebih indah seperti di belanda, mungkin setara australia.
Betul, semoga orang Belanda kembali ke Indonesia dan mengajarkan akhlak tempe pejabat2 Indoneisa
Terlihat asri, lebih enak dilihat dari pada sekarang yg bnyk pedagang kaki lima, bangunan2 warga yg semerawut dengan tata kota yg buruk menurut saya
Semua tempat jajahanku skrg dulunya adem alami yaaa
I welcome all Dutch people to visit again
we will recapture it one day
Such a beauty, the peacefull city of Batavia. Trams and much green. Happy people. If the Japanese did not come. Then the Dutch stayed longer. And later they could finish their Job. Because they were so in love with the whole country and the sensitive very kind people. They did not want the killings. The goodbye was to fast, spoiled by hysterical Sukarno and the dangerous killing Japanese. The Dutch still had many Plans, to make the Colony for all better. And much later they could give it back to the lovely people.
@@sjakvermeulen1318 The Dutch didn't want to give the country back to the native people, therefore they launched the so called Police Actions after Indonesia declared itself independent on 17 august 1945.
@@leodekleijn7712 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@leodekleijn7712 please come back
I was born in 1976. In 1980's the cityscape of Indonesian markets, streets, street vendors, foodstalls didn't change much from 1941's. The differences between 1941's and 1980's were less white Europeans in the streets, less bicycles (motorcycles started to became popular), less old cars (of course :-D ), and less luxurious cars (more visibly luxurious cars only make comeback in 2000's Indonesia).
Of course less luxurious cars in 1980's. Netherlands Indie was an South East Asian economic superpower until 2nd WW. Indonesia regained this position only after massive economic developments of 2005s. Thats why luxury cars navigate city streets of both 1930-40's Netherlands Indie and present day 2020's Indonesia.
Rapi banget bersih
9:17 teh botol Sosro born in Jakarta and became the big brand in Indonesia until now
Plislah Belanda kembali lagi, kota kota di Indonesia sekarang jadi jelek ga seperti dulu, pejabatnya korupt, Jakarta sinking, please come backk.. come backk..
Poor Indonesian child with the baskets
Back then he gets money for the work he does, and goes home to a clean house and a loving family. Today the same kid is walking the streets that you wouldn't even let a stray dog walk on. And hes selling second-hand cigarettes risking to get mugged for the few cents he got from working. Which isn't even enough to buy him food for the day.
Back then, order. Clean streets and everything works. Today, they turn off the electricity in certain blocks at a time because the government didn't pay the electricity company...
@@dgray3771What a bullshit
Yes, it is indeed sad to see how the Dutch treated the Indonesian people, they should have negotiated with Sukarno and Hatta before the war and transferred power to the Indonesian people instead they had to be kicked out loosing every thing unlike the British who were never kicked out of their colonies rather chose to grant independence and form the British commonwealth, they left these countries with the English language, Indonesian don't speak Dutch
…not quite accurate. I met some elderly Indonesian people in the 80’s and 90’s that still spoke Dutch. I also met young Indonesians that did. They learned Dutch to be able to study books about their own country written in Dutch. For instance books about culture and habits of indigenous tribes written by Dutch scientists.
Sapa tau cicit dari bocah yg jualan tersebut sekarang salah satu orang terkenal di negri ini...
Mantap.
i like old clasic era
prachtig...
pfff. Zo zonde dat het weg is.
Het bestaat nog steeds. Alleen dan een andere regering…
Gone for good ....
beter dat het weg is
Wel een meevaller dat er geen communisme of iets dergelijks is gekomen, dan hadden ook veel Nederlandse gebouwen en andere erfstukken weg kunnen zijn.
Zijn nog genoeg plekken in 🇮🇩 waar de Nederlandse gebouwen staan, echt een aanrader
Dit zijn de beelden der herinnering te Nederlandsch-Indië. Alles wat mooi is voorbij. Batavia is nu lelijk. Jakarta kotor. Ada polusi udara dan ada polusi air. Nu is Djakarta niet de hoofdstad dezes lands. Presiden Jokowi sudah memindahkan ibukota ke Kalimantan.
Mengherankan yg katanya dulu di jajah bukannya porak poranda tapi ternyata sebaliknya..
Dimana mana negara jajahan itu pasti hancur hancuran lahh ini malah bagus dan rapi
19 maart 2024
😂 yah jelas lah rapi wong untuk mereka cari duit infrastrukturnya pasti dibangung untuk menunjang perekonomian mereka, tapi yg bisa nikmatin adalah bangsa belanda, sebagai kelas penguasa...
Masyarakat pribuminya?, hanya jadi jongos ditanah sendiri dan selalu kena tindas kalau bukan terlahir sebagai seorang Bangsawan...
Yang diutamakan hanyalah kalangan belanda sebagai kelas penguasa...
Jaman jakarta saat itu ada trem tapinsaya gak ngalanin dan katanya y saat itu air sungai ciliwung masih jernih
Saya tahu bahwa orang Belanda sangat menyukai alam. Mereka umumnya orang-orang yang paling naturalis di dunia. Anda ke Belanda sekarang bagai masuk dalam sebuah kebun yang rindang. Peta topografi hutan yang dibuat Belanda sangatlah bermanfaat buat Indonesia meskipun peta itu diabaikan oleh penguasa sehingga rusaklah hutan Indonesia.
Belanda jauh lebih becus mengurus negeri ini sebagai kontraktor dan administrator. Sistemnya rusak akibat sifat tamak dan munafik dari penguasa lokal. Pada akhirnya malah mengkambing hitamkan periode bersama Belanda sebagai masa penjajahan. Padahal aslinya adalah kotrak dagang.
Hah.. saya di belanda dan faktanya hutan di indonesia lebih banyak
@@un-dprssre Dia belum pernah ke Belanda lmao 😂
@@tjlu47 ya.. dia gak tau seukuran taman kota saja dibilang hutan disana.. kebetulan kerabat saya tinggal di Ermelo, masih wilayah Zuid Holland, dan dia sangat membanggakan hutan seukuran 1 kelurahan itu..
Lain kali pakai data yang valid, jangan asal bilang data aja kyk si onoh 🤭🤭
@@un-dprssre Andai dia tahu kalau sampah-sampah plastik dan limbah dari Belanda dikirim ke Asia Tenggara terutama Indonesia, itulah kenapa Belanda bersih dan terkesan seolah-olah mereka sangat menjaga alam dan kebersihan. Padahal karena sampahnya dikirim berton-ton ke Indonesia setiap tahun bahkan bulan 😂
If bersiap period never happened and Soekarno let just Dutch people who born in Indonesia live, Indonesia will be more diverse than today and also will be the South Africa version of Asia
soekarno heeft meermaals gezegd dat Indonesië het land van de kansarmen (wong tjilik) was en dat is nu (meer dan zeven decennia later) nog steeds het geval.
Helaas wel. Een ieder die kan vlucht weg. T is een totale fale state. Bij elkaar gehouden door t feit dat er geen uitzicht is op iets beters als er afscheiding zou plaatsvinden. Uitzichtloos.
Why so bitter about it?
Indonesia is upper middle income country. G20 member. Thats the fact now
@@ArisBudiyanto-sf7rb G20 membership?not guarantee your ability to escape poverty and corruption (indonesia corruption ranking is 34 and lebanon is 1 out of 180 countries) ... your people unable to drink water directly from tab (have to buy "gallon") unable to directly cook (have to buy "gas tabong" your govt unable to gas-grid all households). your bea tjokai is a group of pirates at airports to get tipped from goods valued $ 1500 upwards .... the so called crazy rich individuals 1 by 1 found stealing from public funds and millions are living at refuse stations including bantar gebang. these are facts you may be try to deny with justifications "indonesia is a country of hundred of millions" .... ha ha ha
5:22 trotoar model eropa kayak gini yg skr udah gak ada.
Pejabat pribumi rakus ga boleh sejengkalpun tanah ga jadi duit
Trotoar lebih besar dari badan jalan 😂
Such valuable data and so educational. Made me sad to watch this.
🌹
Tapi kita sekarang masih terjajah
Ini mah udh modern, yg taun 1800 an ga ada foto"nya
FEDERAL KWORNALISME
Orang2 yg dalam video udah banyak sudah mati ya,
The Neitherlands and Indonesia are supposed to be one country, I hope they can hold a referendum and unite again.
Yesss agree please now, i can't hold anymore, i'am pure Indonesia we can live toghether in peace i believe that 😢
Jaman belanda lebih bersih dan tertib. Gak macet minim polusi, liat aja tu kali airnya gabanyak sampah. Jaman orde baru aja semuanya berubah gara' sentralisasi.
Tp jaman belanda banyak orang kere
@@jokopramudito1917 sama skr juga. Orng naik mobil aja masih ngantri sembako gratisan.
@@simplyyellow6240 kere tetap ada dan setidaknya punya mobil, g semua yg bermobil kaya lho, yg kere banyak, tp kere per kapita jaman sekarang lebih sedikit dari rasio kere jaman belanda.
@@jokopramudito1917 nah itu masalahnya, jaman dlu kere tertib dan rata, skr kere gak tertib, bikin ulah dijalan raya, macet, polusi dll. Liat liputan belanda jaman skr, wlopun mreka pada tajir tp ttp rendah hati kemana' naik sepeda, karna selain mreka punya kesadaran thd lingkungan, dri pemerintah jg mengkampanyekan gaya hidup sederhana gak materialistis. Jmn skr orng ampe jual diri buat dapetin kekayaan. Hasilnya...Masalah dimana'.
oh tidak, jaman dulu, semua warga yg sekarang ini WNI adalah warga negara kelas 3, kelas 2 nya arab, china dan timur jauh, warga negara kelas 1 tentu saja belanda totok dan eropa. Gak percaya? liat saja semua foto kuno hindia belanda, semua belanda pakai pakaian serba putih (dimana kita sendiri males pakai pakaian putih karena ini negara tropis, berdebu, tanah dimana mana), sudah jelas positioning nya kalau pribumi disetel kere. Kalau sekarang banyak kere g tertib, ya itu sih oknum kog, yg tertib lho banyak juga, di luar indonesia juga kere g tertib juga banyak lho. Btw, meskipun negara ini spt ini, kesempatan utk berkembang banyak, kecuali bagi mereka yg g mau mikir lebih lho ya.
WORDHEFULL MAN
Wah sudah ada klernya.. 😆😆😆
Very peacefull until the cruel Japanese army arrived, they also brought hate in the souls,only God/Allah will judges us all !
Bodoh.
Only GOD knows who is wrong ...
i love the Japanese the dutch got what they deserved Mashallah
Lemah cai leluhur kuring ( sunda kelapa/
Het was zo mooi. Prachtig wat we daar gebouwd hadden. Als die Amerikanen zich er niet mee bemoeit hadden, hadden we daar een tweede Nederland gebouwd.
Ja.. you make good city, but not for human right in nederlansch indie..
@@un-dprssre I don’t know. Do you know that people in the Netherlands were forced to work in factories too for very long work days and under harsh conditions ? Happened everywhere during that time. Around 1900 things started to improve, and then also the conditions for people in Dutch East Indies started to improve.
@@Mark-xd5up and do you know what happen with indische in 1900…? Work without salary until die.. owh.. my opa nederlander, maar ik ben indonesichs.. my tante living in Leiden, every year I'm visit my family in nederland.. but, colonialism.. voor iedereen is kolonialisme niet goed.. bedankt
@@un-dprssre Did you think Indonesia would be Indonesia without Dutch influence? It would have been a warzone. Between all the different ethnic groups and islands. Because it was like that before the Dutch ever set foot on the islands. Each tribe each island each greater power in the archipelago fought for dominance. Up until the Dutch and British took hold.
And a lot of Indonesians back then had it good. Better than most do today. I'm sorry but I know Indonesia and it's corrupt to the core. With only the capital and the rich elite hoarding all the money. When disasters hit the outer islands, tough luck for them. And even the regulatory bodies at the government level take bribes... I know first hand.
@@dgray3771 thank you for the impressive colonialism, slavery and murder... I suggest you go to one of the civilization museums in Leiden so you understand how happy we were when we were colonized and murdered, just as happy as you were, when the Nazis ruled Europe
Modelan suasana nya kaya di Eropa ya jaman itu tapi sedih nya pada saat itu masih dalam masa penjajahan...
Sekarang juga dijajah sama pejabat korup
@@indorailfans2532
Betul 💯🤣
Mendingan dijajah Belanda drpd dijajah Jawir. Dijajah Jawir negara bukannya maju malah ngeblangsak mulu.
😆
Sungguh bahagia liat masa lalu dimana kadrun belum bebas bikin ulah...ingat, kadrun terlahir sudah dalam kondisi jahat
Tema nya apa komen nya apa 🤣 gk nyambung bgt
@@leon8924 ga apa , yg pnting Lo musti ingat kalo Kadrun itu bedebah biadab yg udah terkutuk lahir dalam kondisi jahat
@@akitole6839 gw sih bodo amat... ngapain jg ngurusin yg bgtu'an 😄
@@leon8924 ga apa, yg pnting Lo musti ingat kalo Kadrun terlahir dalam kondisi udah jahat
Ini rasis banget. Gak ada yg lebih jahat dari rasisme
I was very disappointed when the Dutch people left us alone.
Elu aja kali
@@hanrianangga2608 mental korup emang cocok dinegara ini
Sungguh sedih melihat msa lalu penuh dngan penderitaan
@kaiyratriyadi5001 bukan.nya lebih menderita hidup di jaman sekarang? pengangguran dimana²
setiap jamam juga sama ada aja penderitaannya. Yg ga da penderitaan cmn di surga.
@@sweetnovember7220ya.. lalu anda mau kembali kejaman rafles, kerja rel kereta sampai mati tanpa makan dan tanpa bayaran..? 🤣
@@sweetnovember7220Cari kerja dong
@@un-dprssre Anda tau darimana nggk dibayar? Kekek buyut gw Kerja rel tapi di Bayar anjirrr. Klo patokan mu pada Buku sejarah, that's a bullshit 😂
Edit : klo lu mksd jaman jepang baru gw setuju
TARAF EQIU TENAGA PENGAJAR
Sekarang nama wilayah itu Jakarta bukan Batavia lagi
Semoga jadi Batavia lagi
seumpama gak ada perang dunia ke 2 ...mungkin indonesia saat ini seperti negara negara di eropa
Prachtig, helaas dat het allemaal weg is
Ik ben Japans. Bedankt voor je waardevolle video.
Vroeger was er veel racisme. Een Nederlands kind dat in een landhuis woonde en een arm Indonesisch kind dat op straat goederen verkocht, hadden het moeilijk. In die tijd konden Indonesische kinderen niet naar school, en zelfs als ze goede cijfers hadden, konden ze niet naar de universiteit. Het waren echter wij Japanse soldaten die het onderwijs voor Indonesische kinderen mogelijk maakten.
💀 (Manila, Nanking, Manchuria)
Totale onzin. Waar denk je dat Sukarno, Suharto etc op school hadden gezeten? Sukarno had op de technische hoge school in Bandung gezeten... :/ Ja in de jaren 30... Daar was gewoon een hoge school. En daar zaten gewoon Indonesiërs op school.
En als je denkt dat iedereen in Indonesië op school zou moeten zitten net als in Nederland. Newsflash, dat was zelfs niet zo in Nederland in de jaren 30...
De nieuwe leiders van Indonesië na de onafhankelijkheid hadden allemaal hoger onderwijs gehad aan scholen die er waren. Die gerund werden door de Nederlandse overheid tot toen.
And once again the Japanese show their complete lack of knowledge when it comes to their actual role in ww2.
Is inderdaad totale onzin. De Indonesische leiders waren goed geschoold. De Japanners brachten niks anders als dood en verderf.
Damn you
How many innocent people were killed by KNIL/Dutch soldiers? What was the difference between the Dutch and the Nazis at that time?
Around 100,000 Indonesians by Dutch military actions. Around 2,5 million by the Japanse during the Japanese occupation (also due to malnutrition and poor living conditions in the camps). I don’t think you should compare it to Nazi Germany though as the Nazi’s killed because of other reasons and their numbers are estimated around 5 million.
It’s said way to easy to compare any unwanted force with nazi’s. Just as lot’s of people get compared to as well these days. If someone is wrong in any ones eyes, he’s just like the nazi’s. Of course colonialism wasn’t good at all. It brought only good to people who were white, mostly. Indonesian people got educated by the Dutch, they gave them a home (sometimes a loving home) and food. The Dutch just didn’t kill Indonesians like Germans/nazi’s did to jews for example. With that said, also the Indonesians killed lots of “belanda’s” to. Does that justify anything? No. Not at all sir. Times were just different then.
@@LekkerRekkenYT alot of dutch killed by the indonesian? Ofcourse because you wanted to ruled our country in our own land. Time just different back in the day doesn't justify what the dutch did to us, we literally being enslaved and being the 3rd class citizen in our own land .
Also indonesian got educated by the dutch? We weren't even allowed to attended school due to being the 3rd class citizen
@@newbabies923 you didn’t get your historical facts straight kid. Dutch didn’t kill dutch, i dont know on what that was a reply? Yes, the freedom and nationalistic movement in Indonesia is originated from native Indonesians who got an education. They were the leading and philosopher branch of the freedom movement and realized they were just opressed and indeed enslaved by a foreign enitity. Even i must say, this was only the case on Java. For the rest of Indonesia (which doesn’t have just 1 sort of citizen, the country has 100’s of different cultures and people) they didn’t know what was happening. Until the time the dutch left, the lands were open to colonize for the new Indonesian governement. Which colonized and enslaved the outer regions of the archipelago. So how are you even better of?
@@LekkerRekkenYT who says dutch kill dutch? Ofcourse dutch didn't kill dutch because it's your own people, but dutch killed alot of indonesian and ensalved us. Also i am Bugis not from Java, and the people in Celebes aware especially what you did to our sultans, dutch took their land. There was literally bugis ppl who fought against the dutch . Those indonesian who didn't know what was going on mostly the tribal ppl who were not exposed to the world. This is what happens when a colonizer trying to white wash the history of their past. Dutch didn't even fully learn about what they did to our ppl in their school, not so surprising