I had to watch your video over and over again in segments but I finally grasped what you were saying. Your presentation was the only one i grasped. All other people I listened to confused the hell out of it with their explanations. If you wrote down the numbers and did the math on paper as you explained it I could of grasped it way sooner. It's all simple once you get it.
Appreciate the video nice seeing it on paper. I've worked mine out on paper but still nice seeing someone else do it to make sure I was on right track.
Getting that pre trip down. It's the really hard part. I had to go over it person on the truck with the instructor for about a 5 days then I had it down.
Thanks for the Video💯 i drive a 14 feet box truck intrastate and was all stressed getting all those messages from us dot an FMCSA about just getting enrolled and having to pay them so many stuff… now I know I don’t qualify on all of that CDL stuff my gvw is 8k gvwr 15k god bless you all be safe
This explains what I was looking for 🤣. Dumb question but when i see on a trailer GAWR (each axle) 3,000 and there’s two axles on the trailer that mean total weight for GAWR will be 6,000 correct?
Thanks for the video! When i first started doing research it took me a while to grasp those concepts. This video does a good job of explaining it. My next hurdle will be payload. If you have a DOT lvl 1 while hauling, do they ever try to ask/figure that? I guess it would be apparent if at the scales, but along the roadside they cant check, can they?
When you scale empty take that number and subtract it from your total GCWR. That's your payload capacity. Then just make sure you don't overload the axles. That's why I run 8k axles on my trailer because I never have to worry about overloading them with a heavy load. The truck rear axle will overload before the trailer axles. DOT sets up road side portable inspection points. Most have scales with them. If they use them or not that's a different story. I've never been stopped at one they just look at my insurance and registration and briefly look at my load and send me on my way. DOT and state troopers and stop you at any time and give you an inspection.
So would this apply even with a cdl or does it have nothing to do with having a cdl? I just started a hot shot trucking company with a cdl and need to know if it applies to just was the combination and haul or if it doesn't matter? thank you
This may be a stupid question, however I have a 97 F350 SRW with the 7.3. The only weight rating on my vin sticker is the gvwr. Where do I get the actual gcwr for my truck? I do have a class a, I’m just looking into a skid steer for side work and the farm.
Not a stupid question at all. We all ask the same question. To be honest I don't know how to calculate that number. I looked it up with Ram on their website I provided the Vin and it gave me all the information I need to know. I would try Google to get a ball park and maybe ford has something similar I'm sure they do. When you google you will also find PDF documents provided from dealers they have good info too. I just googled it briefly and saw 12500 lbs. But do some digging for a solid number. You need minimum 16k to run Non CDL.
@@TylerTheFieldServiceTech Thank you found the owners manual online. It says with my axles I’m at 9900 conventional tow, however it does not say gooseneck weight. I work for a municipality I’m going to reach out to one of the Highway police and see what they can find for me. There kind of d!(k$ maybe they can tell me. Thank you!
I'm new to this and helping my son get started. His company truck (Chevy 1-ton) has a GVWR on the door jamb sticker that says 14,000 for just the truck's rating. The trailer they gave him to pull has a GVWR of 24,000. So unless I'm misunderstanding the process, he has a combined GCWR of 38,000. Just add the truck rating to the the trailer rating, unless I'm misunderstanding. So he would be waaay over the max for non-CDL, even with absolutely no cargo, just pulling an empty trailer. Needless to say, he's studying for his CDL permit now...
So I have a 97 ford f-superduty (f450) When I bought my truck on the title it is 21,000 gvw but the gvwr is only 15,000 on the door sticker. The truck is a service truck and was apart of a large fleet. Is this something the previous owner had ordered or is this something that would get me in trouble? I’ve never seen gvw be over the gvwr.
The Door sticker is what matters. My service truck for work is the same way. Something to do with fleet registration that I'm not familiar with. Whenever you have an inspection they always check the door sticker. When you get the registration I would see if they could get it to match the truck door sticker just to avoid any possible hole for a problem. I've never had an issue with my service truck not matching however.... when you get sued litterally anything and everything matters.
So... you can load over the GVWR of 10,000 lbs in the main truck if your truck with trailer (GWR) doesn't exceed 26000 (GCWR)? You said the GVWR "goes away" so I just want to clarify, didn't seem to make sense why it would go away.
GVWR changes to GCWR when hooked to a Trailer. Just don't overload an axle. It changes because now the rating is taking into account the rating of the trailer. For example the stopping power is added in to the calculation from the trailer because now it's a combination
I’m just trying to see what old model truck can pull an non cdl 40 for trailer and still so confused. Can I grab your contract and ask you questions? I’m willing to pay
Look at the data plate of the truck and the trailer and look what the GVWR number says. Add the GVWR from the truck and the trailer if that number exceeds a total amount of 26,000... You CANNOT use it for Non CDL Hotshot. Not sure how old you mean by old model truck but I would be careful running old equipment. Breakdowns will bankrupt you faster than you can imagine. If you want to reach out to me email Me at wethepeoplehotshothauling@gmail.com and we can get something set up.
@NaeBenGi I emailed you back With pricing. It's not that simple. It takes weeks of waiting and preparation. I'll explain it all if you choose to pay for the information.
I have kind of a tricky question here. I understand that brokers require at least 750,000 and most require 1 mil. But FMCSA only requires 300,000 ins. policy if GVWR is under 10,001#. That being said, if I'm not going to use brokers and run locally through direct customers and my GVWR of my tow vehicle is less than 10001# but I tow a 16k trailer and have registration for 26000# or less, can I still legally get away with a 300,000 ins. policy? Under FMCSA rules it only states GVWR under 10001#, doesnt say anything about GCVW/towing/combination. This is in CA btw, if you scroll down to Colorado, just as an example, it does specify "towing" cannot exceed 10001 pounds.
I don't know about that, to be honest. When I have no trailer on, I don't identify as a commercial vehicle. They won't even look at anything, even a mobile setup, because it's too small of a gvwr. I think they start messing with you in CO when your GVWR is over 16k on the truck. I'm not versed in that, though, cause it doesn't apply to me. I've read the colorado laws and went through the audit. As soon as you hook a trailer to a truck with a 10k gvwr, you have to meet all hours of service and play the entire game, haha. I would maybe go to a port and speak with an officer they will sit down with you and help you. I've done that numerous times, always help, and give you a good image. I've always had all the high insurance requirements, so Idk about loopholes on that. My local customers, for the most part, only care about cargo insurance. However, some want 1 mil insurance, 1 mil general aggregate and high cargo it just depends, man.
@@TylerTheFieldServiceTech Appreciate the reply. Ya maybe talking with a DOT officer here in CA would be the best bet. It is a little bit of a gray area with the way it's worded per FMCSA website. Just want to dabble in it part time locally, so $500 vs $2000 in ins. would be more feasible. Thanks again!
@Brandon Mercier I think you're gonna get hung up for meeting MC authority requirements for insurance if you go less than 750k... idk though let me know. If you move any autos or equipment with fluids you must have 1 million minimum. They are considered Class 9 hazmat.
@@TylerTheFieldServiceTech Your right, it’s actually 1 mil. So you need insurance like your hauling HM but dont have to actually have your HM endorsement? 🙄😂
@@TylerTheFieldServiceTech More I think about it now. Just gonna cook the dot number with my pickup and go into full force the right way after 6-12 months, if the economy gets better that is. Loophole busted 😂 Like I said ill still go ask but I pretty much know the anwer after reading more of fmcsa regs. Have my cdl and hazmat, was just trying get around those ridiculous ins. payments to get started. Thanks again for your help, insight and videos. Take care!
Look at the Vin sticker on your truck and trailer. Add the GVWR of each. Make sure that number does not exceed 26k to stay under cdl that is your GCWR. Then Scale your truck and trailer with all tie down equipment. Subtract that number from your GCWR. That is how much cargo weight you can carry. Then look at your Axle ratings also on the Vin sticker and make sure you don't overload an axle with cargo. The main axle you have to worry about is the rear axle on the truck.
@Tyler the Hotshot Hauler I'm looking for a Ford F250 and me an my wife found a 40' gooseneck that was derated to 12k so is this a good thing or would I be messing myself up for a non cdl
@Twan Penick You would be fucking yourself with that for your F250.You would be lucky to have a 6.5 k weight capacity. Whomever owned it before probably had it derated to run a dually with a 14k gvwr to be able to carry 40 foot containers and other 40 footer cargo. Most trailers run 14k GVWR. I'm pretty certain your truck will be a 10k gvwr but check that . Try to get that trailer GVWR as close to 16k as possible. PJ and Big tex run at like 15.6k gvwr I think. I run a Titan with an axle upgrade to get me 16k gvwr. My Titan is also built with more steel than anyone so my capacity is only 10k to not exceed my GVW limit. With PJ and Big tex it would be probably around 10.5- 11k load capacity but you have to be careful to not overload the axles and tires. Make sure to get 14 ply tires if you can.
Love the drawing skills! Ahaha but this video is perfect thank you brother!
Yeah man that setup gets maximum MPG 🤣🤣
I had to watch your video over and over again in segments but I finally grasped what you were saying. Your presentation was the only one i grasped. All other people I listened to confused the hell out of it with their explanations. If you wrote down the numbers and did the math on paper as you explained it I could of grasped it way sooner. It's all simple once you get it.
I'm glad you got it down. That would have been a good additional visual aid.
Appreciate the video nice seeing it on paper. I've worked mine out on paper but still nice seeing someone else do it to make sure I was on right track.
Please make more videos like this, currently studying for the commercial driver’s license 🙌
Getting that pre trip down. It's the really hard part. I had to go over it person on the truck with the instructor for about a 5 days then I had it down.
Thanks for the Video💯 i drive a 14 feet box truck intrastate and was all stressed getting all those messages from us dot an FMCSA about just getting enrolled and having to pay them so many stuff… now I know I don’t qualify on all of that CDL stuff my gvw is 8k gvwr 15k god bless you all be safe
This explains what I was looking for 🤣.
Dumb question but when i see on a trailer GAWR (each axle) 3,000 and there’s two axles on the trailer that mean total weight for GAWR will be 6,000 correct?
Correct
Blessings
Thanks for the video! When i first started doing research it took me a while to grasp those concepts. This video does a good job of explaining it.
My next hurdle will be payload. If you have a DOT lvl 1 while hauling, do they ever try to ask/figure that? I guess it would be apparent if at the scales, but along the roadside they cant check, can they?
When you scale empty take that number and subtract it from your total GCWR. That's your payload capacity. Then just make sure you don't overload the axles. That's why I run 8k axles on my trailer because I never have to worry about overloading them with a heavy load. The truck rear axle will overload before the trailer axles.
DOT sets up road side portable inspection points. Most have scales with them. If they use them or not that's a different story. I've never been stopped at one they just look at my insurance and registration and briefly look at my load and send me on my way. DOT and state troopers and stop you at any time and give you an inspection.
THANK YOU!
Nice that helped a lot!
Thank your sir.
So would this apply even with a cdl or does it have nothing to do with having a cdl? I just started a hot shot trucking company with a cdl and need to know if it applies to just was the combination and haul or if it doesn't matter? thank you
Yes, it's exactly the same. A CDL just means you can pull a combination greater than 26,000 GCWR.
@TylertheSemiMechanic got it thank you
This may be a stupid question, however I have a 97 F350 SRW with the 7.3. The only weight rating on my vin sticker is the gvwr. Where do I get the actual gcwr for my truck? I do have a class a, I’m just looking into a skid steer for side work and the farm.
I also do not have the operators manual. Thank you!
Not a stupid question at all. We all ask the same question. To be honest I don't know how to calculate that number. I looked it up with Ram on their website I provided the Vin and it gave me all the information I need to know.
I would try Google to get a ball park and maybe ford has something similar I'm sure they do. When you google you will also find PDF documents provided from dealers they have good info too.
I just googled it briefly and saw 12500 lbs. But do some digging for a solid number. You need minimum 16k to run Non CDL.
@@TylerTheFieldServiceTech
Thank you found the owners manual online. It says with my axles I’m at 9900 conventional tow, however it does not say gooseneck weight. I work for a municipality I’m going to reach out to one of the Highway police and see what they can find for me. There kind of d!(k$ maybe they can tell me. Thank you!
I'm new to this and helping my son get started. His company truck (Chevy 1-ton) has a GVWR on the door jamb sticker that says 14,000 for just the truck's rating. The trailer they gave him to pull has a GVWR of 24,000. So unless I'm misunderstanding the process, he has a combined GCWR of 38,000. Just add the truck rating to the the trailer rating, unless I'm misunderstanding. So he would be waaay over the max for non-CDL, even with absolutely no cargo, just pulling an empty trailer.
Needless to say, he's studying for his CDL permit now...
Correct, he would need a cdl to even pull that empty. As soon as you cross 26k gcwr, you need a cdl
So I have a 97 ford f-superduty (f450) When I bought my truck on the title it is 21,000 gvw but the gvwr is only 15,000 on the door sticker. The truck is a service truck and was apart of a large fleet. Is this something the previous owner had ordered or is this something that would get me in trouble? I’ve never seen gvw be over the gvwr.
The Door sticker is what matters. My service truck for work is the same way. Something to do with fleet registration that I'm not familiar with. Whenever you have an inspection they always check the door sticker. When you get the registration I would see if they could get it to match the truck door sticker just to avoid any possible hole for a problem. I've never had an issue with my service truck not matching however.... when you get sued litterally anything and everything matters.
@@TylerTheFieldServiceTech ok thank you I appreciate the help. Much appreciated
So what is the max trailer you can tow behind a 3500 dually. Like, for example, I have seen this truck with a gooseneck with three 15K axes on it.
You would be limited by the tow capacity of the truck rating and rating of the hitch. Probably around 30kish. Depends on the truck.
Those tires on your pick up are a little small.😂😂
Maximum speed and lowest drag haha
So... you can load over the GVWR of 10,000 lbs in the main truck if your truck with trailer (GWR) doesn't exceed 26000 (GCWR)? You said the GVWR "goes away" so I just want to clarify, didn't seem to make sense why it would go away.
GVWR changes to GCWR when hooked to a Trailer. Just don't overload an axle.
It changes because now the rating is taking into account the rating of the trailer. For example the stopping power is added in to the calculation from the trailer because now it's a combination
I’m just trying to see what old model truck can pull an non cdl 40 for trailer and still so confused. Can I grab your contract and ask you questions? I’m willing to pay
Look at the data plate of the truck and the trailer and look what the GVWR number says. Add the GVWR from the truck and the trailer if that number exceeds a total amount of 26,000... You CANNOT use it for Non CDL Hotshot.
Not sure how old you mean by old model truck but I would be careful running old equipment. Breakdowns will bankrupt you faster than you can imagine.
If you want to reach out to me email Me at wethepeoplehotshothauling@gmail.com and we can get something set up.
@@TylerTheFieldServiceTech ok about to text your email now
@@TylerTheFieldServiceTech I seen some 2008 f350 for the low. Can you please help me out want to start it up next week. Today is Sunday here I’m at
@NaeBenGi I emailed you back With pricing. It's not that simple. It takes weeks of waiting and preparation. I'll explain it all if you choose to pay for the information.
@@TylerTheFieldServiceTech ok about to open up right now
I have kind of a tricky question here. I understand that brokers require at least 750,000 and most require 1 mil. But FMCSA only requires 300,000 ins. policy if GVWR is under 10,001#. That being said, if I'm not going to use brokers and run locally through direct customers and my GVWR of my tow vehicle is less than 10001# but I tow a 16k trailer and have registration for 26000# or less, can I still legally get away with a 300,000 ins. policy? Under FMCSA rules it only states GVWR under 10001#, doesnt say anything about GCVW/towing/combination. This is in CA btw, if you scroll down to Colorado, just as an example, it does specify "towing" cannot exceed 10001 pounds.
I don't know about that, to be honest.
When I have no trailer on, I don't identify as a commercial vehicle. They won't even look at anything, even a mobile setup, because it's too small of a gvwr. I think they start messing with you in CO when your GVWR is over 16k on the truck. I'm not versed in that, though, cause it doesn't apply to me.
I've read the colorado laws and went through the audit. As soon as you hook a trailer to a truck with a 10k gvwr, you have to meet all hours of service and play the entire game, haha. I would maybe go to a port and speak with an officer they will sit down with you and help you. I've done that numerous times, always help, and give you a good image. I've always had all the high insurance requirements, so Idk about loopholes on that.
My local customers, for the most part, only care about cargo insurance. However, some want 1 mil insurance, 1 mil general aggregate and high cargo it just depends, man.
@@TylerTheFieldServiceTech Appreciate the reply. Ya maybe talking with a DOT officer here in CA would be the best bet. It is a little bit of a gray area with the way it's worded per FMCSA website. Just want to dabble in it part time locally, so $500 vs $2000 in ins. would be more feasible. Thanks again!
@Brandon Mercier I think you're gonna get hung up for meeting MC authority requirements for insurance if you go less than 750k... idk though let me know. If you move any autos or equipment with fluids you must have 1 million minimum. They are considered Class 9 hazmat.
@@TylerTheFieldServiceTech Your right, it’s actually 1 mil. So you need insurance like your hauling HM but dont have to actually have your HM endorsement? 🙄😂
@@TylerTheFieldServiceTech More I think about it now. Just gonna cook the dot number with my pickup and go into full force the right way after 6-12 months, if the economy gets better that is. Loophole busted 😂 Like I said ill still go ask but I pretty much know the anwer after reading more of fmcsa regs. Have my cdl and hazmat, was just trying get around those ridiculous ins. payments to get started. Thanks again for your help, insight and videos. Take care!
Hey can u explain to me alittle bit more please I'm so lost and I wanna start non cdl hotshot trucking
Look at the Vin sticker on your truck and trailer. Add the GVWR of each. Make sure that number does not exceed 26k to stay under cdl that is your GCWR. Then Scale your truck and trailer with all tie down equipment. Subtract that number from your GCWR. That is how much cargo weight you can carry. Then look at your Axle ratings also on the Vin sticker and make sure you don't overload an axle with cargo. The main axle you have to worry about is the rear axle on the truck.
@Tyler the Hotshot Hauler I'm looking for a Ford F250 and me an my wife found a 40' gooseneck that was derated to 12k so is this a good thing or would I be messing myself up for a non cdl
@Twan Penick You would be fucking yourself with that for your F250.You would be lucky to have a 6.5 k weight capacity. Whomever owned it before probably had it derated to run a dually with a 14k gvwr to be able to carry 40 foot containers and other 40 footer cargo.
Most trailers run 14k GVWR. I'm pretty certain your truck will be a 10k gvwr but check that . Try to get that trailer GVWR as close to 16k as possible. PJ and Big tex run at like 15.6k gvwr I think.
I run a Titan with an axle upgrade to get me 16k gvwr. My Titan is also built with more steel than anyone so my capacity is only 10k to not exceed my GVW limit. With PJ and Big tex it would be probably around 10.5- 11k load capacity but you have to be careful to not overload the axles and tires. Make sure to get 14 ply tires if you can.