My review of the Pianoteq 6 Stage plugin
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- Опубликовано: 28 июл 2024
- (correction,- the upright piano is not part of the free KiVir pack)
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Amazing piece of software... love it for years. Nice reviews.
Absolutely love your playing. Great demo.
Great review and I totally enjoyed your playing - just beautiful.
6:55 freeze is with the checkmark above (beside the save button). Very important feature as you can also "nail down" diapason and maybe dynamics.
Hi Dave, beautifull review. I own the full pro version with all instruments on board since version 4. Tweaking all parameters per note is awesome. All instruments beside the piano based are stunning. For keyboard players it is by far the best plugin available.
I own a lot of piano plugins - like Keyscape/NI piano's/ Synthogy / IK mm / Truepianos / Reason Pianos and many more. This plugin let you tweak the piano sound so much that you can achieve every pianosound you'd like.
I use it live on stage and it is really pushing through the mix.
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-Rem (from the Netherlands)
well done dave on this great demo, lovely presentation style. great playing. fab plugin. quick tip, throw a peak limiter on your master bus (loudmax is free and works great). lower the volume of the plugin, and then reduce the threshold on loudmax to make up the volume without nasty occasional clipping!
for the velocity curve, go on freeze parameters and check velocity curve, that's all ;)
brilliant thankyou!
loved your review...your faces while trying the "condition slider"... i'm getting it! a beauty...
thanks :) - you won't be disappointed :)
Sounds fantastic
Great review. I wish I could play the piano like you :)
Nice presentation, Rich. I like your style!
BTW: Use the "Freeze Parameter" section to check off the parameters that you don't want to change whenever you go from one preset to another. That will be good for your entire session. However, if you want that to be the default every time you start the program, be sure and check "set as default" at the bottom of the freeze parameters screen.
thanks for the info :)
@Maafa 1619 Same here! Happy owner of a Privia PX-560, Zoom R-16, and without knowing it, Pianoteq 6... just got it today and yesterday I had just seem a video of that from Chuck.
Implementing a version suitable for the Raspberry Pi probably required little more than compiling the source code for the RPi as the target platform. Also, while PianoTeq may be easy on resources in terms of the RAM and storage space that are not needed for samples … it is a much more CPU bound application. I haven't performed any quantitative analysis, but I would imagine your CPU is quite a bit busier performing the calculations to "physically" model the piano sound board, etc. than it is with a sample based piano module.
I never knew Alan Partridge did reviews on plugins as well as radio.
aha!
2:08 aha!
Love the video and the playing! I was wondering.... Will you share your preset?
Great review!
Thanks Paul :)
lovely stuff
Loved this, I'm borderine about to press pay but I've only learnt to read c d e f and g today.
Great review! And that "condition slider" shows that Pianoteq developers do have a sense of humor :)
@Peter Svan
It's more than a sense of humour, it's a vital part of the realism. In the same manner as the oscillator drift in modelled vintage analogue synths.
I really like Pianoteq and I've never like the 50 gig sample stuff.
@@PeterWalkerHP16c Indeed, I was merely joking. I'm very impressed with Pianoteq, especially v6. Have since removed some of those "50 gig" libraries. Same story for some classic solo instruments like oboe, flute etc after using SWAM instruments :)
Great review, Dave! I have several piano VSTs (Garritan CFX, Noire, Ravenscroft, NIs, Kescape...) and to my ears, Pianoteq has always sounded too bright and woody, regardless of the model. But, man, it's so playable. I still can't decide if it's better than Garritan CFX (my current favorite sampled-based piano). What do you guys think?
Brilliant and funny! Thank you!
Damn! That condition feature is EXACTLY what I was wishing I had on the song I just recorded. I was even thinking of pulling 2-3 notes out of the midi, and using a separate track with a slight tuning anomaly. One thing about the review - I have a feeling even the worst piano would sound great under your fingers. Would be good to hear a mere mortal play it too. Other than that, great review Dave!
Slightly off topic - I'd love to be able to see and hear you play and study your chops a bit. Any chance of a vid with a camera aimed at the keys?
it's the business! :)
yeah could do a keyboard focussed vid.. just need to think about cam positions :)
I tried Pianoteq a few years ago (I think it was version 5 but who can remember) and I thought it was the most realistic feeling and responsive "fake" piano I had played but it just didn't sound as good as good sampled pianos. This sounds really good so I'm going to download the demo and give it another try. What I really want is an NV5 but I just don't have $8500 lying around!
it is a bind! :D I really like the yamaha piano if i'm going for a more 'real' sound, less 'produced'
this software is great
Good stuff
Amazing sound. What midi cable are u using? Does it matter (cheap vs branded cable). Thanks
No shouldn't matter too much as long as it's not crazy long and doesn't fall apart ;)
Hi @Dave Rich
Which modeled piano is better in your opinion. Pianoteq or True Pianos?
pianoteq - truepianos is a hyrbrid piano, not fully modelled.
Great Vid, thank you! Can you tell us, what kind of equipment you are using (Interface, Win /Mac etc.)? Cheers.
sure -this computer is a = windows 10 running reaper. i3 4150 and it's a steinberg ur22mk11 :)
i don't have midi keyboard., can you automate the pedals? or use keyswitch in the midiroll for the pedals?
you could certainly send controller information from your daw if that helps?
great video. I'm just coming full circle to possibly start using the pianoteq. What controller do you use? Also, is that Reaper you're using?
I use a yamaha cp50 (the newer digital piano one) and yes reaper - enjoy pianoteq!
@@higltypig Hi Dave. I just composed a lengthy text to you, copied it to the clipboard so I could possible communicate via audio over the web. I lost what I copied to the clipboard. I want to offer you a little donation to take a call over facebook, facetime, or maybe Whatsapp. I have a few questions for you. Couldnt find you on Facebook. I'm in Tucson, AZ USA and as I'm writing this its 2;08 my time in the afternoon
Can you tell me as i don't know anything about this when you play the piano does the sound only come out through your Computer or is there a way to bring the sound through my Yamaha HS8 Speakers which i use with my Yamaha CP4 Stage Piano.
Heya - the sound comes out of your computer or audio interface. If you don't have an audio interface (with Midi input if you're wanting to use an external controller keyboard) - then I would recommend getting one. The Steinberg UR 22 MK II is what I have and would be fine for your needs.
Pall. I advise - use CP4 built in sounds, don't waste your time with PC software. There is no magic here. You will not be sitting in front of 9 ft Steinway and neither your play technique improve.
What theme are you using in your reaper daw if I may ask?
it's the reaper 3 default theme. I've always loved it and cannot move on :D
3:32 yes yes yes!!!!!!!!!
Hi Dave, which are the tones which come by default in the stage 6?
www.modartt.com/pianoteq
Can you also put your computer configurations.
CPU+clock frequency
RAM
Audio driver
It's to give an idea to all what's the computer that will be quite comfortably handling pianoteq.
Nice to know you're a technical geek.
It was on my laptop which is now sold. Honestly though it's very light on resources. The audio card was Steinberg ur22 usb though. Intel i7 7700hq , 8gig ram.
How to buy this software
www.pianoteq.com/buy
I 'm thinking of getting the stage version, which is the cheapest version, do I need any other software?like DAW etc... I have no experience in vst
stage version is cheapest and it can be run without a daw - if you want to record it or anything you might find a daw useful though.
also, can the sound be run through the digital piano speakers without any drawbacks or negative effects? I never used vst for playing, but one thing I know is I like piano tone from the piano speakers not external speakers
it certainly shouldn't hurt the sound but then I don't know how good/bad your piano speakers are ;)
What's the total size?
depends on your screen resolution ;) - what do you mean? it's tiny filesize-wise, there's no samples.
Around 25 Mb
The B E S T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We can model nukes and complete complex circuits and the 6 rocket scientist brainiacs at Pianoteq are showing how it's done with pianos. It's only going to get better.
Pianoteq 7 is out.just sayng :)
Happy to look at it if they get in touch :)
Its a good vst but its nowhere near the new pureacoustic modelling by rolamd who has 16000 layer per key and unlimited poly.
Plus uts couple to the speakers system in the lx708.
Sorry pianoteq need a multi channel output. So overtone go out different speaker etc.
had a listen to some youtube vids - haven't heard anything I like more than the Pianoteq-, much more depth to the sound ( I LOVE Roland UK as a company though, they are a fantastic company to deal with). Also,- the Roland is a whole piano and as I can see not available as a plugin?
@@higltypig the point is a plugin can only emulate a recorded or (mic) piano.
For a real piano emulation you need a multi channel speaker that divide the sound component and send it from the same direction a real grand.
That is where roland and yamaha are working at now.
Modelling is the futur and pianoteq is ibterresting but it is limited by its core midi engine of 128 layer of midi limit per key andno multichannel output.
That is why im not interrested.
I love sitting at the lx708because the sound fill a room like a acoustic piano. The overtone are send to tweeter...when i play high note the sound come from the right etc.. its more realist
@@itsflatandlevel256 fair enough but there comes a point where you might as well just buy a real piano :D
@@higltypig the thing is under 20000$a acoustic just sound like shit.
The market is shifting has most piano maker stop producing small upright or even baby grand.
For exemple the lx708 has rich basses that are on par with a concert grand.
You will never have that in aupright
So there is kind of no point buyibg acoustic in these price range.
For exemple even the roland gp609 is 15000$and it gives you more sound then a much bigger piano.
Never need to be tuned..always consistent.
In less then 10 years most home piano will be digital andthe real grand will be kn concert hall. I had a yamaha c3 and i sold it humidity was always working on it... it needed yearly adjustement...tuning..plus the basses were so so.
@@itsflatandlevel256That's absolutely not true, if you buy used and shop around you can get an incredible piano for 3-5k