@@floraofficial7357 I can see Seea and Haram probably (maybe I’m just overhyping my pink fantasy girl but I think she’s that good tbh at least on winter’s level) Goeun too but average feels like the right place for now
Really hoping we can see improvement from Liz, her voice is very beautiful and she’s still very young so she still has a long way to go to settle into it and strengthen it.
For now, seems like Liz fits the ranking she's at right now. I do hope she continues showing something new as her bridge in My Satisfaction was pretty good.
Yay you included Leesoo ! I am glad I recommended her
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yes!! been on my to-check list since then lol by the way, what do you think having her on the lower A-AA? heard some off moments from her but she does handle C5s alright most of times from what i’ve heard, though they’re generally nasal, light and what not ahah
@ I think she can sound very average at times, like this Forsake cover was really not it (relatively, for her and what she can do), from mid range up to those somewhat tense B4s, but Mamamoo cover was better and she does phrase C5 alright sometimes, but then again I think it gets too messy when she sustains. Overall I got A vibes, but I will listen to some more of her singing and see how consistent she is with her better moments.
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@@bigmamafan1773 yeah overall i agree she can sound pretty Average in some instances. not too sure on her, but i’d find her G#4-B4~ range to be nice even on the average moments, and she does have some handle of the lower 5th octave. hopefully she’s getting more exposure if they’d not vanish away overtime lol
Lee Soo's Bb4/B4's can get really strong and full but then, even in this showcase video they are some underwhelming moments where she gets nasal and light. I feel like if she stayed more consistent with the approach she has on the stronger Bb4~B4, she's be above Monday. Low A/AA sounds pretty good for her though, maybe at the tippy top of A if there's more instances of her having off moments that weren't shown in this vid
I just finished watching the latest NMIXX karaoke video and OMG @ Haewon showcasing another moment of her almost resonating 😳 Also, Bae sounding clean af eating up that Hey Mama pre-chorus, hello? (Rip Bae Lipa 2022-2022?) Lily’s high notes? Their low notes? Their harmony in Hey Mama?! I was just talking about how excited I was for their next karaoke session and it came true! I could cry of happiness 😭
@@Seulgi_bff Said the one who thinks that those D D- tiers are valid and called Karina low average. I'm here to have a productive conversation with mature ppl, not to argue with bitchy kids
@@zhejiwooinkwangya but doesn't really make sense to estimate that way. For example if she had one or two G#3s and ppl estimated G#3/A3 for her it would be fair, but just pulling G#3/A3 out of nowhere it's weird imo
@@andinho2204 Yeah true, but I don't really see much people claiming it anyway. There's this one channel that said it in a 4th gen ranking vid but I remember them correcting themselves in the comments somewhere I think.
ruclips.net/video/hLPlIspGm_4/видео.html Haewon is the main slayer whenever its time to do karaoke. Other than her, Kyujin, Sullyoon and Bae was EATINNGGG in Hey Mama cover esp the prechorus lines. Also a tiny growl tease from Lily at 7:29 and like ???? she was probably the last member I thought to try doing growls.
Bae devoured her Hey Mama pre-chorus line omg, she really wanted to put Bae Lipa in the grave 😭
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jinni?? sounds the most solid besides haely on both verse and pre chorus imo. also lily effortlessly sounding this great, we’re dead the day she puts hae’s effort loll
@ have you heard the whole album I would put Lisa above jisoo for now Imo And not above Jennie because she had shown support
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@@itz_lavena yeah, i did actually! i’d agree with having lisa ahead of jisoo, besides i didn’t notice anything different but rosé being a bit more solid with her A4s
@ Rosé's possible improvement makes me so happy! Hoping to see some live material soon so that we could judge! I'm hoping for at least High W-A in the future haha
@@MoonLight-dx6gf I need Rosé in average tier so badly 😭 She has so much potential! Same with Jennie and now Lisa sounds so promising! Ugh Blackpink being a strong vocal group would be a dream
Not me completely ignoring/forgetting Haewon’s supported phrased Eb5s in Hey Mama 💀 Her mix was a lot better here and I think it’s her best Eb5s so far!
I’m really happy to see Jinni gain more confidence in her vocals bc it leads to moments like these! I was really impressed with her recent vocal performances of Move Your Body and Hey Mama, her boldness and fullness really shined 👏🏼
Bae also sounded really good. Her "banging the drum like dumdi dey" sounded really good! Does anyone know if she carried any support when she sung that? I don't know much about vocals, notes or support, but super interested to know.
@@AnAdultKpopFan It wasn't bad, we can't say for sure because of her mic. I'd say there was some development but nothing to say it was actually supported. Latest materials have shown that Bae can handle G#4~Bb4 a lot better than we initially thought (as a former W vocalist lolz)
@@zhejiwooinkwangya Okay thanks a lot(: Yes, it could definitely have been the mic, but it just sounded more full than normal. Thanks for clarifying! I really hope she improves!
WHAT😭 WHO SAYS THAT? no she stopped regressing and she seems to have better placement but thats it. we don't also have enough live material to see if she can support anything.
@@gwgwap she also seems to have decent tonality for an undeveloped vocalist (though that’s all or mostly contributed to bad technique rather than proper technique), so ig that’s why lmao.
Ooh better save it for the following week actually, since the live band week idol perf + comeback is coming out by then. I think the next video will be abt the newly added girls in the community tab like Moon Sua Edit: I'm a chronic liar srry the live band perf is for K-909 not Weekly Idol bye
@@zhejiwooinkwangya yesss should just wait until nmixx finishes their cb, and then we'll have a whole video for nmixx only as usual 😂. Damn.. i just realized that nmixx update video always as a whole group not just mix with Idols from different group
I'm confused about the weekly idol thing tomorrow. Will it be a live broadcast or they will just be filming tomorrow and then it will be broadcasted at the end of the month? Also, I said on one of my comments here that they will be performing on 'It's Live' but nothing is confirmed yet. That 7 member girl group on their spoiler might be Billlie lmao. Anw, I'm most excited about the show wherein haewon is one of the hosts. Do you guys know what's the concept of that show like the invited guests will just perform or is it like a competition wherein there will be a winner per episode?
@@haely2384 According to articles, K-909 will be artists showing of songs and concepts that were like drafted?? like they get to showcase songs that got scrapped and things like that. and then ig they perform it. Nmixx is probably part of the lineup cuz Haewon is an mc so the group gets a special perf portion
@ maybe some of them average or higher vocalist? 🤔 if you looking for some average or higher you should check minimani, songsun tribe, minji secret number, lucy lilli lilli, lara & miso/boni dreamnote, minseo wooah (ahra favorite, yeham csr, ahri rocking doll, hwiseo h1-key, chaebin nature)
Since its relevant to the topic rn, doesn't Nicki's singing sound pretty good in Hey Mama? Even outside of raps, she gets to sing and she sounds pretty good
I personally need to wait for some live preformances especially of The Happiest Girl. It's interesting cause Lisa sounded pretty nasal in her Say so preformance and she didn't showcase anything in her solo. I'm glad if she managed to reduce some of her issues.
@@AB-yk2pq same. I think she is F+ at the very least. It just sounded so much more full and it was very pleasant to listen to. Nothing felt too strained
@@user-tw1zv8ki9q I know Lisa has more limited range in comparison to Jennie, but if she actually started supporting I'd prefer hearing more of her vocals while rap goes to Jennie. In moments like this, she overall sounds healthier than both Jisoo and Jennie.
@@shototodoroki4970 from what I hear it doesn’t seem like she has one. I’m not sure if she’s in the top 3 vocalists of the group tbh (definitely not top 2 imo) so I’m a bit confused why they gave her main vocal. I think it’s a Bom, Minnie, Mia type situation where they just picked the wrong person
Me screaming in MAMAMOO fangirl when Piano Man and that song that Moonbyul did a cover on came up. 😍 Yeah definitely screams lowest A-AA vibes for sure lol. Anyways, finally a Liz update I’ve been waiting on! While this is the most solid I’ve heard from her, I would definitely keep her where she is personally in W-A. To me, she’s associated with the names of Moonbyul/V (esp at prime for the latter) (except she’s slightly better than these two for a cleaner approach lol) rather than Miyeon/Rose/JK (more shallow) for one or Nayeon/Jeongyeon/Karina/Giselle (way more tendency to get shallow and more shallow) on the other.
She has A3/Bb3~A4/Bb4. Her support gets more solid going higher into her supported range (when she doesn't go too stylistic) and her support gets inconsistent going lower down to A3 due to issues like airy qualities. Recently during Pink Venom, her Bb4/B4 sound to have gotten better. Less nasal and not whiny at all.
if you are talking about liz then nope. They are at the same tier but liz is in low week to average while rosé is in mid weak to average. Rosé is more relaxed to G3s and she is getting more consistent with supporting Bb4s and is more relaxed at B4s. Rosé has also a better falsetto.
have u heard her Eb3s???? quite shocked how good she handles that. i can still hear her larynx slightly lowered, but she had good projection and tonality there. i'd say solid G3 is the safest option here, but no doubting she's getting that F#3/G3 sooner
not related to the video but anyone knows how ningning compares to seossica? afaik seohyun can still edge ningning right? also their supported ranges and tiers 😁🙌
2:20 that's C5 not C#5 2:24 C#5 not C5 2:27 C5 not C#5
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‘pain’ C#5 ki’ller’ C5 - B4 ‘brain’ C#5 bi’tter’ C5 - B4 ‘mi’serable is both a C# and a C… just noticed you’re picking 1sec before the highlighted part… if you’re using headphones they might be delaying lmaoo had one that did that 😂
If Somi supports now does that mean she is the 4th best in IOI? Also if Pinky was the fourth best singer in that subunit idk why they made her do that ridiculous note lol
Hear me out..if Sua and Seoyeon show some signs of support and weren’t even in the future 2ne1 vocal line then would they have been one of the few groups with full support? It would be cool if someone looked into youha and their main vocalist
Hey have you watched everglow mia and shiyeon whole new world cover plzzz tell me did anyone of them shown some improvement atleast mia was clean so i think mia is now weak vocalsit right
@@yourkpopvocalanalyst Slight improvement is still pretty update worthy. Some better Bb4/B4 from Rose on all Pink Venom performances is pretty promising
@@yourkpopvocalanalyst why are people always so quick to say that rosé didn't improve? this channel mostly makes a weekly videos updates and even slight changes should be taken into.
No. Jungkook was just misevaluated (there was material even back in 2014 that proved that he was indeed better than high W and can be Nayeon-ish at times), and nobody in BTS improved afaik lol. Jungkook tends to be stylistic a good amount of the time that nobody noticed unless of further digging lol.
Anyways, this sh*t >>>>>>>> V + Jennie dating rumors/tea (sorry BLINKs and ARMYs lmao) (as in this video is much more interesting than the latter mentioned lmao)
@@shutdownthedice4913 Bruh I swear there needs to be a Law and Order:SVU episode inspired by this! However, anyways, the most entertaining part of this is the fans' reactions to (especially stan Twitter) the possibility of these two idols possibly dating each other...like why would y'all lose y'all's sh*t over two people in their mid-20's living their lives and doing what people in their age do (which is dating lmao) when they don't even know who y'all are exactly irl (nor even speak the language y'all speak or even far from your age or even live nearby where y'all live or live the same lives y'all lead) other than someone who contributes to their bank account lmao.
@Oli London and Jimin's son Omg 💀. Bruh teenagers in India? Bruh that's a country far away from South Korea (also applies to other countries like the US, UK, Philippines, Indonesia, etc.), and do they want their faves to be accused of pedophilia?! Also, not me saying this for the umpteenth time, but please know well that there is a difference between what your faves portray themselves on-camera and what they are actually in real life (because whatever is shown on-camera is what they want us to see and it may be filtered, oversimplified, exaggerated or even fabricated from what is really irl). You don't even own or know your faves that well or even well at all (eg Kim Taehyung =/= V of BTS).
Liz might be one of my favorite vocalist, her voice is just magical 🥰
Now we have 10 at least in A-AA tier. The girl groups are hard carrying this gen vocally (and in other areas lol)
I hope some of the high average girls can make it into the lower parts of A-AA
@@floraofficial7357 I can see Seea and Haram probably (maybe I’m just overhyping my pink fantasy girl but I think she’s that good tbh at least on winter’s level) Goeun too but average feels like the right place for now
can you tell me who member that at least in A-AA tier?
@@choowiez1515 they are all on the chart but in order it’s Nayul, Lily, Haewon, Yerin, Yechan, Swan, Jungwoo, Ningning, Monday, Lee Soo
@@user-tw1zv8ki9q ohh thank you! anyway do you know tier of lunarsolar members, yewon hot issue, alice members, mihee botopass and bian majors?
Really hoping we can see improvement from Liz, her voice is very beautiful and she’s still very young so she still has a long way to go to settle into it and strengthen it.
Thanks again for showcasing her! Hope to see my other nugu faves in the future ❤️
For now, seems like Liz fits the ranking she's at right now. I do hope she continues showing something new as her bridge in My Satisfaction was pretty good.
My sister Liz. Get better with time, she sounds promising and her tone is amazing
Yay you included Leesoo ! I am glad I recommended her
yes!! been on my to-check list since then lol
by the way, what do you think having her on the lower A-AA? heard some off moments from her but she does handle C5s alright most of times from what i’ve heard, though they’re generally nasal, light and what not ahah
@ I think she can sound very average at times, like this Forsake cover was really not it (relatively, for her and what she can do), from mid range up to those somewhat tense B4s, but Mamamoo cover was better and she does phrase C5 alright sometimes, but then again I think it gets too messy when she sustains. Overall I got A vibes, but I will listen to some more of her singing and see how consistent she is with her better moments.
@@bigmamafan1773 yeah overall i agree she can sound pretty Average in some instances.
not too sure on her, but i’d find her G#4-B4~ range to be nice even on the average moments, and she does have some handle of the lower 5th octave. hopefully she’s getting more exposure if they’d not vanish away overtime lol
LeeSoo minha queridinha, obrigado por ter exaltado essa maravilhosa.
WOW I LOVE PRECIOUS!!
Lee Soo's Bb4/B4's can get really strong and full but then, even in this showcase video they are some underwhelming moments where she gets nasal and light. I feel like if she stayed more consistent with the approach she has on the stronger Bb4~B4, she's be above Monday. Low A/AA sounds pretty good for her though, maybe at the tippy top of A if there's more instances of her having off moments that weren't shown in this vid
Omg lily at the end of cool!! She sounds so good
Lisa’s vocals on Born Pink?!!! ☺️
So glad to see my bias, Liz is doing well ❤️
I just finished watching the latest NMIXX karaoke video and OMG @ Haewon showcasing another moment of her almost resonating 😳 Also, Bae sounding clean af eating up that Hey Mama pre-chorus, hello? (Rip Bae Lipa 2022-2022?) Lily’s high notes? Their low notes? Their harmony in Hey Mama?! I was just talking about how excited I was for their next karaoke session and it came true! I could cry of happiness 😭
Exactly that cover of Haewon,, girl is so close 🤏🤌
When is the next karaoke session?
@@breats4703 Oh the “next karaoke session” I was referring to was the one posted today oops haha I’ve worded it properly now in my original post lol
@@oceanwave_ Lmao you manisfested it. Was the almost resonant note @ 3:16 ? So she had 3 instances of almost resonating???
i swear 3:14 sounded resonant!! why didnt she resonate?
Love this layout omg
thank you for included leesoo! 💗
Why are ppl pretending like Liz supports G#3? It's funny how they give her G#3/A3 and yet fail to show a single passable G#3 by her
Probably estimation lol but yeah tbh A3 sounds like it's already LIz's limit for lows during the choice moments when she gets to showcase it
@@Seulgi_bff Said the one who thinks that those D D- tiers are valid and called Karina low average. I'm here to have a productive conversation with mature ppl, not to argue with bitchy kids
@@Seulgi_bff when did that happen
@@zhejiwooinkwangya but doesn't really make sense to estimate that way. For example if she had one or two G#3s and ppl estimated G#3/A3 for her it would be fair, but just pulling G#3/A3 out of nowhere it's weird imo
@@andinho2204 Yeah true, but I don't really see much people claiming it anyway. There's this one channel that said it in a 4th gen ranking vid but I remember them correcting themselves in the comments somewhere I think.
Lee soo is just amazing
Not related but does Nayeon improve recently? Seems like her support got fuller
Yeah, she has been getting a bit better consistency-wise ever since Pop. Her handle on the lower 5th octave got a bit better too.
Yeah she seems less shallow than before.
OMGGGG ! DICE is going to slay I know itttt
And it did 😏 I prefer O.O and cool but Dice is a bop
@@zeroc00k14 I agree. It was revolutionary but I understand not every tile track can and should be the same way
Liz has great tone to listen to. I hope she'll show more improvements in future.
What tier are my mezzo trinity: Lady Gaga, Beyoncé and Rihanna (P!nk too)
1:52 does anyone have the link of this cover plzz give me
WOW??!?!?! Lee Soo sounds amazing on those Bb4/B4
Haewon eating the 4th octave like dang she fuckin that shit up 😭😭
Giving mic to nmixx is like giving them candy lmao girls have no chill! Anw, haewon sounds full most of the time in that mama cover right?
@@haely2384 Yup, All the Bb4/B4 she had were crazy good
@@zhejiwooinkwangya Those mics have the same price as candies 🤣🤣🤣
@@haely2384 LMAOOOOOO
What is with Haewon and her strained relationship with mics since Dream concert i swear 😡😡😡
Im glad Lily is getting all these solo promotions because their songs didn’t do her justice
leesoo just left precious yesterday 😭
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Haewon is the main slayer whenever its time to do karaoke. Other than her, Kyujin, Sullyoon and Bae was EATINNGGG in Hey Mama cover esp the prechorus lines. Also a tiny growl tease from Lily at 7:29 and like ???? she was probably the last member I thought to try doing growls.
i love it when singers do growls im here for it!!!
Lmao we post at the same time hahaha Jinni also ate that hey mama cover and the harmonization though 🔥🔥
Bae devoured her Hey Mama pre-chorus line omg, she really wanted to put Bae Lipa in the grave 😭
jinni?? sounds the most solid besides haely on both verse and pre chorus imo. also lily effortlessly sounding this great, we’re dead the day she puts hae’s effort loll
@ OOUUUUU we got a Jinni scope, my sister will continue showcasing something more amin 🙏🏿
haewon's sustained open Bb4 changed my life‼️
What do you think of Lisa's singing in The happiest Girl?
she does sound less shallow than jenso, in this specific song. haven’t heard the full album yet so not sure how’s doing overall.
@ have you heard the whole album
I would put Lisa above jisoo for now
Imo
And not above Jennie because she had shown support
@@itz_lavena yeah, i did actually!
i’d agree with having lisa ahead of jisoo, besides i didn’t notice anything different but rosé being a bit more solid with her A4s
@ Rosé's possible improvement makes me so happy!
Hoping to see some live material soon so that we could judge!
I'm hoping for at least High W-A in the future haha
@@MoonLight-dx6gf I need Rosé in average tier so badly 😭 She has so much potential! Same with Jennie and now Lisa sounds so promising! Ugh Blackpink being a strong vocal group would be a dream
Can You do Minseo by Wooah
Is there any Kep1er member improvisation in vocals? is there any Kep1er member besides Chaehyun who can support?
Youngeun can support, she is weak tier
@@Lss125 does she have a supported range?
@@wlee8989 B3 ~ G4/G#4
Not me completely ignoring/forgetting Haewon’s supported phrased Eb5s in Hey Mama 💀 Her mix was a lot better here and I think it’s her best Eb5s so far!
Can you please check on lily's vocal on that one video on kbs!??
Manifeeting Lily improves her midrange the same like haewons
🙏🙏🙏
No bcs my girl Jinni slay the Hey Mama cover ! She sound so much fuller than usual
I’m really happy to see Jinni gain more confidence in her vocals bc it leads to moments like these! I was really impressed with her recent vocal performances of Move Your Body and Hey Mama, her boldness and fullness really shined 👏🏼
Bae also sounded really good. Her "banging the drum like dumdi dey" sounded really good! Does anyone know if she carried any support when she sung that? I don't know much about vocals, notes or support, but super interested to know.
@@AnAdultKpopFan It wasn't bad, we can't say for sure because of her mic. I'd say there was some development but nothing to say it was actually supported. Latest materials have shown that Bae can handle G#4~Bb4 a lot better than we initially thought (as a former W vocalist lolz)
@@zhejiwooinkwangya Okay thanks a lot(: Yes, it could definitely have been the mic, but it just sounded more full than normal. Thanks for clarifying! I really hope she improves!
Does anyone know why people are claiming that jisoo supports now?😂
WHAT😭 WHO SAYS THAT? no she stopped regressing and she seems to have better placement but thats it. we don't also have enough live material to see if she can support anything.
@@gwgwap blinks are saying that she supports up to A4 now 💀😂
@@vvenuskook4170 WHATWFSTSFSUSGWGW 😭😭😭I love her so much but there's NO WAY
@@gwgwap lol ikr😂
@@gwgwap she also seems to have decent tonality for an undeveloped vocalist (though that’s all or mostly contributed to bad technique rather than proper technique), so ig that’s why lmao.
Does anyone know what song Liz is singing at 2:57 ?
taeyeon’s 11:11
@ Thank you! I knew the song but couldn’t remember who sung it!
i guess next week gonna be nmixx video 👀
Ooh better save it for the following week actually, since the live band week idol perf + comeback is coming out by then. I think the next video will be abt the newly added girls in the community tab like Moon Sua Edit: I'm a chronic liar srry the live band perf is for K-909 not Weekly Idol bye
@@zhejiwooinkwangya yesss should just wait until nmixx finishes their cb, and then we'll have a whole video for nmixx only as usual 😂. Damn.. i just realized that nmixx update video always as a whole group not just mix with Idols from different group
@Oli London and Jimin's son forealsies, 4th gen vocals getting good so now sootzubae gotta work a 9-5 😭
I'm confused about the weekly idol thing tomorrow. Will it be a live broadcast or they will just be filming tomorrow and then it will be broadcasted at the end of the month? Also, I said on one of my comments here that they will be performing on 'It's Live' but nothing is confirmed yet. That 7 member girl group on their spoiler might be Billlie lmao. Anw, I'm most excited about the show wherein haewon is one of the hosts. Do you guys know what's the concept of that show like the invited guests will just perform or is it like a competition wherein there will be a winner per episode?
@@haely2384 According to articles, K-909 will be artists showing of songs and concepts that were like drafted?? like they get to showcase songs that got scrapped and things like that. and then ig they perform it. Nmixx is probably part of the lineup cuz Haewon is an mc so the group gets a special perf portion
dawon from wjsn had B4/C5 in her earlier days right? does she still have C5 in her range after her regression?
She now have Bb4/B4(C5)
The thing abt kpop is that Ill always hear them sing same songs like santa tell me, IU songs, Christmas merry christmas(idk the title lol)
Half the industry has probably hit A5 at least once in their career cuz of the obligatory Santa Tell Me christmas time cover 😭
Also speechless
what do you think about elris/alice vocals? especially ej, sohee and bella
haven’t checked on them yet, but i’m still looking for some averages or higher so i’ll be giving them a go anytime soon!
@ maybe some of them average or higher vocalist? 🤔 if you looking for some average or higher you should check minimani, songsun tribe, minji secret number, lucy lilli lilli, lara & miso/boni dreamnote, minseo wooah (ahra favorite, yeham csr, ahri rocking doll, hwiseo h1-key, chaebin nature)
@ how about mihee botopass and bian majors??
Please
How would the ranking of itzy be based on their mix lows and upper rigister????
lia is the strongest in all the registers, followed by yeji. the rest are the same.
@ ok thanks
Lily head voice supported In pycho cover?
yes all the way to G5
Since its relevant to the topic rn, doesn't Nicki's singing sound pretty good in Hey Mama? Even outside of raps, she gets to sing and she sounds pretty good
@Oli London and Jimin's son One of my favorite TIMELESS hits from her is Super Bass. She was spitting and singing like that's mother right there
nicki was primarily a singer so yeah, she can hold a tune ahah
@ woulda never beaten the xyz gen ace allegations if she was in kpop
@@zhejiwooinkwangya pretty sure majority of the vocals were provided by Ester Dean who also wrote the hook
Someone tell me why Lisa sounds like she supports on the second half of this album…YG vocal coach???
I personally need to wait for some live preformances especially of The Happiest Girl.
It's interesting cause Lisa sounded pretty nasal in her Say so preformance and she didn't showcase anything in her solo.
I'm glad if she managed to reduce some of her issues.
@@AB-yk2pq same. I think she is F+ at the very least. It just sounded so much more full and it was very pleasant to listen to. Nothing felt too strained
@@user-tw1zv8ki9q I know Lisa has more limited range in comparison to Jennie, but if she actually started supporting I'd prefer hearing more of her vocals while rap goes to Jennie. In moments like this, she overall sounds healthier than both Jisoo and Jennie.
@@AB-yk2pq I agree. For now I would keep Jennie above Lisa because of support but it’s safe to say both are above Jisoo imo
@@user-tw1zv8ki9q Yeah, Jisoo has some nice falsettos but she still hasn't shown one moment of support :(
Does someone know what tiers are the members of Boys World?
Is it safe to give Ningning F#3/G3 for lows??
I think so
Is it just me or is Bessie STRAINING like I feel really bad but why are they giving her these constant high notes 😭
Cuz she's the main vocalist of the group that's why. MLD announced it. Do you know her supported range?
@@shototodoroki4970 from what I hear it doesn’t seem like she has one. I’m not sure if she’s in the top 3 vocalists of the group tbh (definitely not top 2 imo) so I’m a bit confused why they gave her main vocal. I think it’s a Bom, Minnie, Mia type situation where they just picked the wrong person
@Random I have a feeling Yue>Shana but don’t hold me to it lol
Chanty >>> everyone
everyone else just sounds so thin even in a comfortable range
@@eternalregard I agree
Me screaming in MAMAMOO fangirl when Piano Man and that song that Moonbyul did a cover on came up. 😍 Yeah definitely screams lowest A-AA vibes for sure lol.
Anyways, finally a Liz update I’ve been waiting on! While this is the most solid I’ve heard from her, I would definitely keep her where she is personally in W-A. To me, she’s associated with the names of Moonbyul/V (esp at prime for the latter) (except she’s slightly better than these two for a cleaner approach lol) rather than Miyeon/Rose/JK (more shallow) for one or Nayeon/Jeongyeon/Karina/Giselle (way more tendency to get shallow and more shallow) on the other.
Can you make a Rosé supported range? many say she only supports up to A4 and others say she only supports up to BB4.
She has A3/Bb3~A4/Bb4. Her support gets more solid going higher into her supported range (when she doesn't go too stylistic) and her support gets inconsistent going lower down to A3 due to issues like airy qualities. Recently during Pink Venom, her Bb4/B4 sound to have gotten better. Less nasal and not whiny at all.
@@zhejiwooinkwangya I’d give her Bb3 ~ A4 personally
@@hiiuma729 Rosé has been shown to support BB4 several times. ☠
@@hiiuma729 I think she's had her fair share of Bb4's throughout her career tbh but I agree on Bb3
I give her Bb3~A4/Bb4
What's her tier for now ???
Does she consistently support Bb4 ??
if you are talking about liz then nope. They are at the same tier but liz is in low week to average while rosé is in mid weak to average. Rosé is more relaxed to G3s and she is getting more consistent with supporting Bb4s and is more relaxed at B4s. Rosé has also a better falsetto.
liz is constantly shallow so no
@Oli London and Jimin's son liz
@@gwgwap does she consistently support Bb4 liz
@@itz_lavena nope in fact I haven't seen her support any Bb4s outside of one of her covers
Can Doja Cat support?
Ofc
Y'all think its safe to say NN has F#3/G3 or is material still too little? I'd say G3 alone seems pretty good for her already
All her F#3 moments are kinda fine tho???
@@kittygalore7344 Yea, even when its not the best, its just unsupported. Haven't heard any strained or muffled moments yet in her lows.
have u heard her Eb3s???? quite shocked how good she handles that. i can still hear her larynx slightly lowered, but she had good projection and tonality there. i'd say solid G3 is the safest option here, but no doubting she's getting that F#3/G3 sooner
@@paledangels Agreed
@@paledangels well she can handle D3 already, ningning's range is just is so impressive overall
blackpink's new album is so gooddddd AHHAFDYSFWYSFW 😭
But Liz ranking didn't change except now she is above bae and she is second last Liz seems to be a promising vocalist
not related to the video but anyone knows how ningning compares to seossica? afaik seohyun can still edge ningning right? also their supported ranges and tiers 😁🙌
Iirc both of them have G3/G#3 - B4/C5, Seohyun is Mid A-AA and Jessica is Low A-AA?
I guess the ranking would be Seohyun >= NingNing >= Jessica
@@Sylvaincks so if we add boa in there she would be above ningning as well? considering shes above seohyun and jessixa
@@Sylvaincks so if we add boa in there she would be above ningning as well? considering shes above seohyun and jessica
@@carloschacon104 Yup, Boa would be above them all
@@Sylvaincks Id say Seohyun is low mid
Next time I'll be quicker
no problem
O.O > DICE.
My first impression, the song is confusing. It's short as well, and where is Sullyoons high note?
She has the highnote at 1:43 because she steps back into the choreo late and you can see her ending the note!!
2:20 that's C5 not C#5
2:24 C#5 not C5
2:27 C5 not C#5
‘pain’ C#5 ki’ller’ C5 - B4
‘brain’ C#5 bi’tter’ C5 - B4
‘mi’serable is both a C# and a C…
just noticed you’re picking 1sec before the highlighted part… if you’re using headphones they might be delaying lmaoo had one that did that 😂
@ i was, in fact, wearing headphones omfg this is embarrassing sorry 😭
Lee Soo is around Monday skill wise, right?
the safer estimation is bellow monday’s level
@ hmm makes sense, thanks for replying:)
If Somi supports now does that mean she is the 4th best in IOI? Also if Pinky was the fourth best singer in that subunit idk why they made her do that ridiculous note lol
Hear me out..if Sua and Seoyeon show some signs of support and weren’t even in the future 2ne1 vocal line then would they have been one of the few groups with full support? It would be cool if someone looked into youha and their main vocalist
Hey have you watched everglow mia and shiyeon whole new world cover plzzz tell me did anyone of them shown some improvement atleast mia was clean so i think mia is now weak vocalsit right
@Oli London and Jimin's son i know but i want to hear from soobtazae atleast mia have shown some support
liz or miyeon??
Please, Rosé vocal update after bornpink release ❤
she didn't improve (except technique wise)
@@yourkpopvocalanalyst I said after album for a reason. As she supported A4 in pink VENOM, I had hopes with bornpink
Yash pleaseee 🙏🏻💙
@@yourkpopvocalanalyst Slight improvement is still pretty update worthy. Some better Bb4/B4 from Rose on all Pink Venom performances is pretty promising
@@yourkpopvocalanalyst why are people always so quick to say that rosé didn't improve? this channel mostly makes a weekly videos updates and even slight changes should be taken into.
Well can you tell me who is better vocalist between Mina chaeyoung and Jennie??
Jennie
I heard that it's:
1. Chaeyoung
2. Jennie
3. Mina
Idk for sure
Jennie I think so
what a weird combination of people lol
drop it already… none of them have enough technique to this kinda of comparison.
Who's better between Liz and Sullyoon? Gimme the reason please.
sullyoon is less shallow, handle Bb4 and above better than liz. not much behind it, the gap is noticeable but not *that* huge
@ thank you sootzubae
Liz sounds constantly shallow while Sullyoon had arguably full moments
Did Jungkook improve? I heard BTS’s vocal line slightly improved
No. Jungkook was just misevaluated (there was material even back in 2014 that proved that he was indeed better than high W and can be Nayeon-ish at times), and nobody in BTS improved afaik lol. Jungkook tends to be stylistic a good amount of the time that nobody noticed unless of further digging lol.
Anyways, this sh*t >>>>>>>> V + Jennie dating rumors/tea (sorry BLINKs and ARMYs lmao)
(as in this video is much more interesting than the latter mentioned lmao)
@@shutdownthedice4913 Bruh I swear there needs to be a Law and Order:SVU episode inspired by this!
However, anyways, the most entertaining part of this is the fans' reactions to (especially stan Twitter) the possibility of these two idols possibly dating each other...like why would y'all lose y'all's sh*t over two people in their mid-20's living their lives and doing what people in their age do (which is dating lmao) when they don't even know who y'all are exactly irl (nor even speak the language y'all speak or even far from your age or even live nearby where y'all live or live the same lives y'all lead) other than someone who contributes to their bank account lmao.
@Oli London and Jimin's son Omg 💀.
Bruh teenagers in India? Bruh that's a country far away from South Korea (also applies to other countries like the US, UK, Philippines, Indonesia, etc.), and do they want their faves to be accused of pedophilia?!
Also, not me saying this for the umpteenth time, but please know well that there is a difference between what your faves portray themselves on-camera and what they are actually in real life (because whatever is shown on-camera is what they want us to see and it may be filtered, oversimplified, exaggerated or even fabricated from what is really irl). You don't even own or know your faves that well or even well at all (eg Kim Taehyung =/= V of BTS).
@Oli London and Jimin's son lol i am Indian too
They are literally cringe and this all work
While they know they can't
@Oli London and Jimin's son why are they doing like this
It will really ban BTS in India
And those who are real army like you and me what we will do
@@KittyTsundere wow i am also Indian i am from Pune Maharashtra and you
not related but do you all saw rosé build a btch leak cover with new lyrics in twt??? she sounds good!!
I did hear it!
I hate YG for not releasing it! My gurls deserve better 😭
Is lily consistent in Eb5?
No she hasn't even gone past A5 in HV 😭😭😭 *In a serious singing setting snyway
@@zhejiwooinkwangya sorry my mistake i mean Eb5 in mix not Bb5 😅
She has shown great eb5s but alsp she had shown questionable moments (let it go)
@@kittygalore7344 shes supported more Eb5s then wendy so i think shes consistent.
I think so