I played Zero Dawn when it came out on PC and loved it so much I bought a PS5 - my first ever console - just so I could play Forbidden West at release. I am 40ish hours in and have revealed - not cleared, just revealed - a little over half of the the map. Aloy is Level 40 and my current main quest is Level 24... The world and character building is just outstanding, even the smallest tasks include some well developed characters. One (of so many) of my favourite moments was in a side quest in "Las Vegas" that starts off as a simple fetch quest and then turns into a delightful journey of discovery. You know developers care about their game when a simple side story has better writing, plot, pacing, voice acting and animations/cinematics than many main games or even A list Hollywood movies. Side quests rewarding skill points and not just XP is a great incentive for those who might otherwise ignore them
yeah this game is actually insanely good, one of the few open world games where it doesnt feel like a ubisoft location clearing game, but really being a hunter in an open world, finding and fighting specific monsters to get the right parts to upgrade weapons or armor
I feel like a lot of the side quest it's almost an insult to call them that since they all have like there own mini story in them vs like you said ubisoft style games were its bland npc #50 go here grab this do that alright bye lol
This game is a testament that there are still devs pushing new ground and setting new standards for greatness. I'm so happy it exists and this is possibly one of my favorite franchises of all time now.
The visuals were phenomenal and beyond stunning at some points, I loved the voice acting/expressions from like 99% of characters and NPCs, and the music had elements of electronic and vocals that really fit the man and machine motif. Incredible. What's more I'm shocked at how well they did character development. If you took the time to really get to know the characters they had real depth. I had minor issues with the overall story but this is a solid 9/10 for me.
I wonder how they did the conversation dialogue, was it all completely animated or did they use stock animations then tweaked it? As if it is the latter it is the best system I've seen.
I thought for sure they were going to go the route where because the Zenith had Apollo, they ended up ruining the planet again. Meaning it would have meant Ted's decision to delete Apollo on Earth actually had positive outcomes.
I'm only 11% into FW and spent 20hrs so far exploring and doing mostly side quests. To me it feels kind of like an RPG/adventure/action mash up. So many options with skills, a stash system, outfits/weapons upgrades and even dye your outfits. And I'm certain there is other stuff to do I haven't discovered yet.
They nailed good story and good gameplay. Improved everything on HZD, which a wild thought. Not sure, but the story is so well done it feels like they wrote the entire story before developing the game and then broke up the story into games to fit. The narrative was just that’s smooth and in-depth. As for the gameplay I love the expanded weapons and skill trees so you can really have different builds to suit your play style. The only thing I’d like to see as a next gen is innovation on spray painted ledges and difficulty settings. This is not a HFW knock, just something I’d like to see changed in this generation. The ledge system has been a game staple, but it just sticks out more than usual because of Aloy’s physical talent. Id like to see them find a way to make it less jarring at least. I think building on the focus cliff climbing mechanic into everything would be cool. For difficulty I’d like to see games move away from the you do less damage enemies do more damage and have more health. Find ways to add combat mechanics that change with difficulty.
cant wait for PC release ... relativly soon officially ... i played first one on PC and it surprised me how fun that game was and cant wait to play this one and before that i will replay first one but this time will do 100% achievement run
If you're a Dark Souls fan there's no way you can't pick Elden Ring. However, I honestly don't think it has showed (so far) to be a better game than this.I'm not fanboying or anything though, I'd play and enjoy both games.
Agreed, everything from Zero Dawn just done better. (And zero dawn was insanely good to begin with) It’s not like the game was twice as good as the last one, but it improved on every aspect. Making this game mind boggling fun.
I just did a certain story mission to get poseidon I won't spoil it but I will genuinely never forget it a stand out so far the world is incredible the lore is incredible the combat is incredible the game is just incredible its hard to believe this just came out then we have Elden Ring too haha what a time to be a gamer.
@@roberthudley2548 it's actually ridiculous how much good shit is coming out has to be one of the most stacked months ever tbh I'm getting Elden Ring Friday I'm trying to get Horizons story done so I can just come back and do sidequest and activity clean up later for the platinum.
Proud of not watching a singel second of it. So excited to play it myself. Just have to wait untill payday to get it. (Never empty your accounts people)
Hi cohh i just finished horizon zero dawn on pc today but i also played it on ps5 horizon 1 and 2 plus 2 dlc's and im watch ur play thoughs to fill my time up till the hfw comes out will you be doing a pc run of hfw when it comes out on pc.
That's good to hear. I'm playing this game and the next gen version of Cyberpunk 2077 back to back, both are amazing so far I feel so spoilt 😅 Wonderful year for gaming
Can anyone confirm if this game can be played natively with a Keyboard and Mouse on PS5?? I want to purchase but only if I can use K&M. HZD was so much better for me on PC due to this that I would rather wait than taint my experience.
My biggest problem with the game is how a bunch of exploration mechanics are locked behind the main story. I just want to explore the world at my own pace, but no, everything is locked and needs backtracking forcing me to rush the main story first.
True, but campfire fast travel is free so back-tracking is not so much of a pain for me atleast. But i do agree, not being able to explore submerged ruins from start felt bad to me as well.
@@nayanagrawal4757 not adding the unlimited fasttravel pack was a mistake in my opinion. I know you can travel for free from any fire to the next, but I still think the old system was better. Its always hard to make a judgement there.
@@_aullik Yea true, I was also disappointed in the first game that you have to explore 50%+ of the map before you can get that pack. So, it felt like fast travelling to all campfires from the get go was a little better but if they gave a unlimited pack as well, it would have been best of both worlds.
The only two gripes I have with this game is that the climbing system feels very janky and inaccurate at times, and the story had some very predictable moments and dialogues I could see coming from miles away. Otherwise an amazing game.
What about the Yakuza series their animations were quite good as well. Your play thru of the first game made me a fan I own all of them and waiting for the next installment. Keep up the wonderful work 🤗
This game, like Zero Dawn, will leave a lasting memory. Games at this level, where I do shed tears, are well written and the game mechanics on the PS5 are incredible.
@@gamingeagle19 PC gamers routinely wait years for ports, this is nothing. But we aren’t starved for ‘bangers’, sorry to say. Theres more good stuff just on Steam right now than one could play in a lifetime, and more come out almost every week.
Good plan; same here. I'm also waiting for the PC version. I'm running on a 1080 so by the time the pc version comes out, I'll have a new rig already. In the mean time, I'm playing other games. Even if Sony doesn't release the PC version, I know the story and that's good enough for me. I play games mainly for the story anyway. I don't feel I miss out anything from not playing it.
Going to disagree with Cohh here, here's some things Zero Dawn did better then Forbidden West . Zero Dawn had better focus mechanics, specifically not needing to ping all the time Zero Dawn had a better stealth indicator, moreover stealth in Forbidden west feels meaningless. Zero Dawn had a better skill system for it was more streamlined and impactful whereas a lot of skills in the Forbidden west just seem like filler. Zero Dawn at least gave you more time to figure out a puzzle before hand holding you to the solution even with guided exploration turned off, feels like audio hints come after a few seconds. In fact with hints/guided exploration turned off there should have be zero help to begin with. Zero dawn had less farming and didn't force you to unlock over rides by gathering materials.
I felt that both games just arent that great I got bored of the first game because combat got really repetitive and tedious also kinda jank plus the constant stopping to pick up items every five secs got old really fast, the story wasnt that great plus all the animations of the characters felt very robotic which is ironic, and the world was not really interesting to explore. I was hoping that the second game would fix those problems but from all the playthroughs ive seen it just looks like more of the same which is disappointing really dont understand why find these games so amazing when they are so boring to play through. Better open world games I played were spiderman and ghost of tsushima now those were actual fun open world games
The skill tree in the first game is complete ass. I used maybe like less than half the skills because they're so situational. I stopped bothering to spend points past level 20 because I had nothing left to spend them on that was actually useful. This one isn't amazing but it's still an improvement. Also, you don't need to ping all the time. Pinging is only for climbing and you can set it so that the handholds are always highlighted.
You can skip dialouges and cutscenes (Im not too sure if you can skip all cutscenes, especially main story ones because I never even tried to do that but the cutscenes for the side content can be skipped)
"I think it's going to be a while till we see a game reach the quailties of horizon forbidden west." Oh yeah, such a long while....except not, oh hello Elden Ring.
As much as i loooove elden ring, quality wise, elden ring is pretty lazy, graphics are weak, not much is happening in the terrain of the open world, npcs are not even moving, voice acting is great but they cant even animate their mouths
I found the story hard to swallow after the Zero Dawn. You could argue that the machines were made to simulate creatures you'd find on Earth but when you bring in Zenith machines that function as guard bots? No damn way they get taken down with arrows and spears. ESPECIALLY when they were also used against Nemesis even without shields. It is incredibly stupid to engineer a machine for what amounts to military hardware with such glaring weaknesses. I mean, have you seen how our modern day tanks perform? We got squishy humans inside to operate it. Now imagine a tank without the need for squishy humans with Zenith technology. Im sorry, I know this is a game but if you are aiming for realism, try harder.
I kind of disagree respectfully. It looks great and they definitely improved on side quests… but it still falls into the open world trap of ‘here’s a checklist of jobs you gotta do’, which is a bit outdate imo and tbh it got boring fast
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I played Zero Dawn when it came out on PC and loved it so much I bought a PS5 - my first ever console - just so I could play Forbidden West at release.
I am 40ish hours in and have revealed - not cleared, just revealed - a little over half of the the map. Aloy is Level 40 and my current main quest is Level 24...
The world and character building is just outstanding, even the smallest tasks include some well developed characters.
One (of so many) of my favourite moments was in a side quest in "Las Vegas" that starts off as a simple fetch quest and then turns into a delightful journey of discovery. You know developers care about their game when a simple side story has better writing, plot, pacing, voice acting and animations/cinematics than many main games or even A list Hollywood movies.
Side quests rewarding skill points and not just XP is a great incentive for those who might otherwise ignore them
yeah this game is actually insanely good, one of the few open world games where it doesnt feel like a ubisoft location clearing game, but really being a hunter in an open world, finding and fighting specific monsters to get the right parts to upgrade weapons or armor
I feel like a lot of the side quest it's almost an insult to call them that since they all have like there own mini story in them vs like you said ubisoft style games were its bland npc #50 go here grab this do that alright bye lol
@@intheendweallsmellthefoot those las Vegas side quest were amazing!
"I loved... Getting the damn fish"
Amazing. And I gotta say, loving the new camera angle--it actually feels like he's looking at me 😂
0:07 LMAO, why did that look like he's preparing a speech at a funeral.
This game is a testament that there are still devs pushing new ground and setting new standards for greatness. I'm so happy it exists and this is possibly one of my favorite franchises of all time now.
The visuals were phenomenal and beyond stunning at some points, I loved the voice acting/expressions from like 99% of characters and NPCs, and the music had elements of electronic and vocals that really fit the man and machine motif. Incredible. What's more I'm shocked at how well they did character development. If you took the time to really get to know the characters they had real depth. I had minor issues with the overall story but this is a solid 9/10 for me.
I wonder how they did the conversation dialogue, was it all completely animated or did they use stock animations then tweaked it? As if it is the latter it is the best system I've seen.
I thought for sure they were going to go the route where because the Zenith had Apollo, they ended up ruining the planet again. Meaning it would have meant Ted's decision to delete Apollo on Earth actually had positive outcomes.
I’m 30 hours in and really enjoying my time with it. Thanks for the review Cohh!
I'm only 11% into FW and spent 20hrs so far exploring and doing mostly side quests. To me it feels kind of like an RPG/adventure/action mash up. So many options with skills, a stash system, outfits/weapons upgrades and even dye your outfits.
And I'm certain there is other stuff to do I haven't discovered yet.
It kills me that I might have to wait a few years before I can play it on pc.
I'm sorry bro
Coming out in March 2024
its out now son , im playing it maxed out settings on PC first time haha
They nailed good story and good gameplay. Improved everything on HZD, which a wild thought.
Not sure, but the story is so well done it feels like they wrote the entire story before developing the game and then broke up the story into games to fit. The narrative was just that’s smooth and in-depth. As for the gameplay I love the expanded weapons and skill trees so you can really have different builds to suit your play style.
The only thing I’d like to see as a next gen is innovation on spray painted ledges and difficulty settings. This is not a HFW knock, just something I’d like to see changed in this generation.
The ledge system has been a game staple, but it just sticks out more than usual because of Aloy’s physical talent. Id like to see them find a way to make it less jarring at least. I think building on the focus cliff climbing mechanic into everything would be cool.
For difficulty I’d like to see games move away from the you do less damage enemies do more damage and have more health. Find ways to add combat mechanics that change with difficulty.
My favorite games of all time.
Just got my collectors edition the statue is awesome 👏 going to start. My run tomorrow thanks 😊 for your input cohh
cant wait for PC release ... relativly soon officially ... i played first one on PC and it surprised me how fun that game was and cant wait to play this one and before that i will replay first one but this time will do 100% achievement run
absolute 100% buy when the PC release will be.
hope he returns to it for DLC and PC releases.
I know there's gonna be a lot of people who disagree with me here but the sooner they launch this on PC the happier I'll be!
I can't wait to ditch the controller and get to use a KB&M.
Opting for Elden Ring over this. Good to hear that you enjoyed it!
Why not play both?
@@ricksmith4840 IN THIS ECONOMY?! but seriously. we're all so spoiled these days :)
If you're a Dark Souls fan there's no way you can't pick Elden Ring. However, I honestly don't think it has showed (so far) to be a better game than this.I'm not fanboying or anything though, I'd play and enjoy both games.
@@andersonrosa6645 Elden Ring? More like stutterRING
Agreed, everything from Zero Dawn just done better. (And zero dawn was insanely good to begin with)
It’s not like the game was twice as good as the last one, but it improved on every aspect. Making this game mind boggling fun.
I just did a certain story mission to get poseidon I won't spoil it but I will genuinely never forget it a stand out so far the world is incredible the lore is incredible the combat is incredible the game is just incredible its hard to believe this just came out then we have Elden Ring too haha what a time to be a gamer.
Bro I’m playing Horizon and Dying light2 on PS5 waiting for Elden Rings tomorrow night.
@@roberthudley2548 it's actually ridiculous how much good shit is coming out has to be one of the most stacked months ever tbh I'm getting Elden Ring Friday I'm trying to get Horizons story done so I can just come back and do sidequest and activity clean up later for the platinum.
@@122josh So many games so little time.I’ll take a nap early tomorrow I will be up late.
Proud of not watching a singel second of it. So excited to play it myself. Just have to wait untill payday to get it. (Never empty your accounts people)
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Hi cohh i just finished horizon zero dawn on pc today but i also played it on ps5 horizon 1 and 2 plus 2 dlc's and im watch ur play thoughs to fill my time up till the hfw comes out will you be doing a pc run of hfw when it comes out on pc.
That's good to hear. I'm playing this game and the next gen version of Cyberpunk 2077 back to back, both are amazing so far I feel so spoilt 😅 Wonderful year for gaming
I agree 100 percent
Can anyone confirm if this game can be played natively with a Keyboard and Mouse on PS5?? I want to purchase but only if I can use K&M. HZD was so much better for me on PC due to this that I would rather wait than taint my experience.
You sadly can't.
@@Miri069 that sucks. Hope the devs see this and update the game. PS5 said it had full M&K support if the game enables it.
Hope the pc version doesn't take too long.
My biggest problem with the game is how a bunch of exploration mechanics are locked behind the main story. I just want to explore the world at my own pace, but no, everything is locked and needs backtracking forcing me to rush the main story first.
True, but campfire fast travel is free so back-tracking is not so much of a pain for me atleast. But i do agree, not being able to explore submerged ruins from start felt bad to me as well.
@@nayanagrawal4757 also iron flowers and ignition crystals. Can't fast travel to those.
@@Amaror2 true true
@@nayanagrawal4757 not adding the unlimited fasttravel pack was a mistake in my opinion. I know you can travel for free from any fire to the next, but I still think the old system was better. Its always hard to make a judgement there.
@@_aullik Yea true, I was also disappointed in the first game that you have to explore 50%+ of the map before you can get that pack. So, it felt like fast travelling to all campfires from the get go was a little better but if they gave a unlimited pack as well, it would have been best of both worlds.
Good to hear!!
The only two gripes I have with this game is that the climbing system feels very janky and inaccurate at times, and the story had some very predictable moments and dialogues I could see coming from miles away. Otherwise an amazing game.
hope it will come to PC at some point :) i really enjoyed the first game.
Two years probably
@@ricksmith4840 yep :)
What about the Yakuza series their animations were quite good as well. Your play thru of the first game made me a fan I own all of them and waiting for the next installment. Keep up the wonderful work 🤗
Did they tone down they annoying backseating from Aloy?
10 Seconds into the Video. Thanks Cohh I'll buy the game. Thats enough for me!
This game, like Zero Dawn, will leave a lasting memory. Games at this level, where I do shed tears, are well written and the game mechanics on the PS5 are incredible.
God of War was here. :)
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Im loving it so far! also cannot wait for elden ring playthrough whoo!
i'll buy it when i can get a new gpu at a descent price having a 1070 running on a 2K monitor
Playstation exclusive
@@gamingeagle19 ok. But by the time it is ported to pc, he will have that brand new gpu to run it.
@@ricksmith4840 years from now sure.
@@gamingeagle19 PC gamers routinely wait years for ports, this is nothing. But we aren’t starved for ‘bangers’, sorry to say. Theres more good stuff just on Steam right now than one could play in a lifetime, and more come out almost every week.
Good plan; same here. I'm also waiting for the PC version. I'm running on a 1080 so by the time the pc version comes out, I'll have a new rig already. In the mean time, I'm playing other games. Even if Sony doesn't release the PC version, I know the story and that's good enough for me. I play games mainly for the story anyway. I don't feel I miss out anything from not playing it.
Cohh play CP2077 now it's actually playable
I'm enjoying my time with it. 20 hours in
Going to disagree with Cohh here, here's some things Zero Dawn did better then Forbidden West .
Zero Dawn had better focus mechanics, specifically not needing to ping all the time
Zero Dawn had a better stealth indicator, moreover stealth in Forbidden west feels meaningless.
Zero Dawn had a better skill system for it was more streamlined and impactful whereas a lot of skills in the Forbidden west just seem like filler.
Zero Dawn at least gave you more time to figure out a puzzle before hand holding you to the solution even with guided exploration turned off, feels like audio hints come after a few seconds. In fact with hints/guided exploration turned off there should have be zero help to begin with.
Zero dawn had less farming and didn't force you to unlock over rides by gathering materials.
I felt that both games just arent that great I got bored of the first game because combat got really repetitive and tedious also kinda jank plus the constant stopping to pick up items every five secs got old really fast, the story wasnt that great plus all the animations of the characters felt very robotic which is ironic, and the world was not really interesting to explore. I was hoping that the second game would fix those problems but from all the playthroughs ive seen it just looks like more of the same which is disappointing really dont understand why find these games so amazing when they are so boring to play through. Better open world games I played were spiderman and ghost of tsushima now those were actual fun open world games
The skill tree in the first game is complete ass. I used maybe like less than half the skills because they're so situational. I stopped bothering to spend points past level 20 because I had nothing left to spend them on that was actually useful.
This one isn't amazing but it's still an improvement.
Also, you don't need to ping all the time. Pinging is only for climbing and you can set it so that the handholds are always highlighted.
No time. Playing Lost Ark and now Elden Rings is coming too :D
That's good to hear. Does it allow you to skip the story? I didn't like it in the original game at all and skipped everything I could.
You can skip dialouges and cutscenes (Im not too sure if you can skip all cutscenes, especially main story ones because I never even tried to do that but the cutscenes for the side content can be skipped)
For as much as Cohh says he liked this game, it certainly looks and sounds like a hostage video where someone off screen has a gun pointed at him.
*Elden ring enters the chat
*and leaves the chat because it has zero mo-cap and unrelevant voice acting.
next Elden Ring 😊
Already pre downloaded right between Horizon and Dying Lite 2.
Well well well
hwat do we have here.
Never liked HZD. Tried to like it multiple times but I always got bored around the 7-8 hour mark...pass for me
"I think it's going to be a while till we see a game reach the quailties of horizon forbidden west."
Oh yeah, such a long while....except not, oh hello Elden Ring.
As much as i loooove elden ring, quality wise, elden ring is pretty lazy, graphics are weak, not much is happening in the terrain of the open world, npcs are not even moving, voice acting is great but they cant even animate their mouths
Its so fucking good
I found the story hard to swallow after the Zero Dawn. You could argue that the machines were made to simulate creatures you'd find on Earth but when you bring in Zenith machines that function as guard bots? No damn way they get taken down with arrows and spears. ESPECIALLY when they were also used against Nemesis even without shields. It is incredibly stupid to engineer a machine for what amounts to military hardware with such glaring weaknesses. I mean, have you seen how our modern day tanks perform? We got squishy humans inside to operate it. Now imagine a tank without the need for squishy humans with Zenith technology. Im sorry, I know this is a game but if you are aiming for realism, try harder.
I kind of disagree respectfully. It looks great and they definitely improved on side quests… but it still falls into the open world trap of ‘here’s a checklist of jobs you gotta do’, which is a bit outdate imo and tbh it got boring fast
Well its only for ps5 anyway. Master race can just watch us play.
Master Race will play Elden Ring, in addition to the tens of thousands of games on PC that aren’t available on console. Try harder console warrior.
@@brilobox2 yeh go buy 30k graphics cards first.