What Is Torque And How Can It Help You Jump Higher?

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  • Опубликовано: 6 май 2024
  • In today's video John and Isaiah describe how internal and external torques affect an athlete's potential potential to jump higher.
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  • @samratkc457
    @samratkc457 Месяц назад +18

    00:01 Torque is crucial for jumping higher
    02:07 Torque results from applying force off-center
    06:13 Understanding and overcoming external torque in lifts
    08:22 Understanding torque for better jumping performance
    12:59 Understanding torque distribution on the body while lifting weights.
    15:15 Longer limbs require more torque to lift the same weight.
    19:26 Understanding torque and its impact on internal force application.
    22:12 Shorter people can lift more weight due to external torque variations.
    25:41 Shorter individuals may need to generate more torque in order to lift the same weight as taller individuals.
    27:31 Leverage and torque impact jumping ability.

  • @JohnEvans
    @JohnEvans Месяц назад +26

    As an aside for after this video has like 10k+ views, I am NOT a physics professor so if there's something you super nerds catch that I messed up feel free to comment below my mistake! Thanks!

  • @JohnEvans
    @JohnEvans Месяц назад +68

    I'm here to learn about torque from myself

    • @daceydunks
      @daceydunks Месяц назад +7

      Way to be a student John

    • @juhbell1852
      @juhbell1852 Месяц назад +4

      Just got a 95 in physics this semester so I’ve already learned everything there is to know about it

    • @JohnEvans
      @JohnEvans Месяц назад +3

      @@juhbell1852 Watch this full thing and tell me everything I said wrong with time stamps. jk plz don't

    • @juhbell1852
      @juhbell1852 Месяц назад +4

      @@JohnEvans0:00-29:15 👍

    • @JohnEvans
      @JohnEvans Месяц назад +4

      @@juhbell1852 HAHAHAHA labeling the whole podcast is crazy

  • @KobsterEdits
    @KobsterEdits Месяц назад +14

    Been doing plyos for 2 months and got from just touching the backboard to dunking a tennis ball at 5'11"

    • @cheese2127
      @cheese2127 Месяц назад +1

      whats your vertical?

  • @QuangNguyen-vf3nz
    @QuangNguyen-vf3nz Месяц назад +3

    This is why I love jump training that dives deep into numbers like this because at the end of the day, it's just about math and physic formula. You match the number, you jump that high.

    • @user-jf9fd8pc6n
      @user-jf9fd8pc6n 26 дней назад +1

      Yeah but there are lot of things you can't change which we often generally perceive and mark as "Talent". For example you can't change your muscle/tendon insertion point & angle which makes a huge role in more efficiently utilizing and directing the created force from muscle. Another example, you can't change the muscle architecture in your pennate horn muscles.

    • @QuangNguyen-vf3nz
      @QuangNguyen-vf3nz 26 дней назад +1

      @@user-jf9fd8pc6n Such "talent" will definitely be an upper limit determining factor. If there's a number we can't match then that means we haven't trained to it yet. And by number in my statement above, what I meant was the one variable that affects jump height no matter our stats that is jump velocity, aka the speed at which you take off and explode upward. It doesn't matter how heavy or strong we are, if our bodies can handle the force of incoming velocity and produce the necessary speed to reach, let's say 40 inches, then we will reach 40 inches vert.

  • @tezzachannel2193
    @tezzachannel2193 Месяц назад

    Greatest contents always from THP!!

  • @srjt9000
    @srjt9000 Месяц назад

    Amazing video

  • @timothypollock8358
    @timothypollock8358 Месяц назад +2

    Very interesting but I would add, as I understand it, that you could have two people with identical lever systems and that can both move the same weight (say in a squat) but if one of them can move it significantly faster in the critical window where the levers are longest relative to the direction of external force necessary for the movement, that one will be able to jump significantly higher than the other one. This relates to speed of muscle recruitment and ultimately power output. I've seen references to explosive athletes being told to target moving a weight (in the right weight range for an athlete of a specific size and weight) at between .2 and .5 m/s in that critical maximum leverage window. I'm no expert but am very interested in the subject. Have you ever seen strongman Dennis Rogers? Studies show that his otherworldly strength to size ratio is due to his speed in recruiting motor units to a specific force output which is absolutely freakish. Cheers.

  • @broadliam
    @broadliam Месяц назад

    Thanks john

  • @mangulugulu9026
    @mangulugulu9026 Месяц назад

    such an underrated content

  • @Ice-Sikill
    @Ice-Sikill Месяц назад +1

    Bro, his stuff is golden… I’m just finding out about you and loving the vids. I want to increase my vert, but my left ankle for some reason lacks the same mobility as right and I’m getting up there in age (38)… is it too late?

  • @HlM.
    @HlM. Месяц назад

    17:50 that’s why it’s called the patella tendon and not patella ligaments even though it connects bone to bone. Because the function of it is to aid movement by increasing torque

    • @user-jf9fd8pc6n
      @user-jf9fd8pc6n 26 дней назад

      The patella tendon does not connect bone to bones....There are no tendons in human body that just connects bone to bone. Tendons are meant to move the bones when muscle contracts... So it connects muscle to bones.

    • @HlM.
      @HlM. 26 дней назад

      @@user-jf9fd8pc6n what muscle does the patella attach to?

  • @saulbeiza7303
    @saulbeiza7303 Месяц назад

    So it’s effort, force, power since thoughts attracts we have created a life

  • @drillygwuapo
    @drillygwuapo Месяц назад

    when your knee pain goes away how should you start doing plyometrics again?

  • @rowan8252
    @rowan8252 Месяц назад

    I have pfp in my left knee, to the point where it hurts badly doing a light knee extension isometric, but right knee is healthy. Should I just do isometrics on the right leg for now?

  • @yathsri4816
    @yathsri4816 Месяц назад

    I can dunk at 5'6", 168cm, my standing reach is about 7'3" and my max deep squat is 295lbs, I wonder what it is about me that might make me an exception to this general rule (needing to squat a lot more as a shorter person to jump as high), since from a glance I have the same proportions as Isaiah - just scaled down (Torso : Femur : Tibia, ratios seem the same)... even when it comes down to the arm length, oversized traps and big heinie. I will measure myself in lab conditions though just to be certain 28:14.

  • @khangbanger
    @khangbanger Месяц назад

    I am currently stuck at 31-34 inch vertical. If I fix my form to make it look like yours will I be able to get up to 40 inches within 1-2weeks? Or is that just wishful thinking?

  • @Duoliniggo
    @Duoliniggo 26 дней назад

    Can anyone explain the video and what I can do, to maybe increase my torque

  • @GETmeHOPS
    @GETmeHOPS Месяц назад

    What are the worst dunks that regularly get perfect scores in dunk contests? (Pro dunk contests not nba)

  • @a-a-rondavis9438
    @a-a-rondavis9438 Месяц назад +1

    All of the logic applied here confirms Wilt Chamberlain jumped very high. He already could jump 44-45", and he was very strong and had great leverages and tall height. I mean Bill Russell was also a world-class athlete who had a mid 40's vertical, but no one disputes that.

    • @timothypollock8358
      @timothypollock8358 Месяц назад

      Chamberlain was super freakish and was probably the greatest 7'+ athlete in the history of sports. Schwarzenneger says that Chamberlain could pick him up like nothing and was significantly stronger than most bodybuilders in many regards. Chamberlain and Andre the Giant competed to see who could pick up Arnold the easiest and Chamberlain was the clear winner. Wilt did overhead tricep extensions with 160+ lbs. when most of the biggest BBs were only using around 120. This is incredible force when you realize how long his levers were. Cheers.

    • @a-a-rondavis9438
      @a-a-rondavis9438 Месяц назад

      ​@@timothypollock8358his track and field performances were insane as well.

    • @timothypollock8358
      @timothypollock8358 Месяц назад

      @@a-a-rondavis9438 No, doubt. He was an all-around incredible specimen and athlete. Cheers.

  • @Cloud10again
    @Cloud10again Месяц назад

    Random musings...
    Long levers have a huge advantage for exit velocity. You travel more distance for a given joint angulation and thus have more time to produce force for a given exit velocity. Imagine throwing a baseball with a forearm twice as long; your pitch would take longer to complete, but would likely have a significantly higher speed. In jumping imagine someone with legs half as long; even if they could get their torques equivalent to Isaiah's on squat (squatting 2x as much-ish) they would still jump significantly lower due to insane RFD requirements, at least.
    I'm thinking of "interesting" comparisons...
    Jumping insects and frogs have crazy long legs...they jump many times their height but that's probably largely a cube/square thing, think house cat vs Tiger. Tiger jumps higher on absolute scale but lower on relative scale. A 12 foot tall Isaiah can jump higher than 50" but much lower relative to their own skeleton.
    Are there any comparisons out there of ground contact times vs leg length? Or jump height relative to leg length?

  • @qaz122
    @qaz122 Месяц назад

    The progress brother elite athlete, free guideance and now teaching university level biomechanics. Kids dont know what they have. Back in the day it was a pdf copy of airalert 2.0

  • @robinsonpaulino4058
    @robinsonpaulino4058 Месяц назад +1

    dunk session video when???

  • @tiokaneko347
    @tiokaneko347 Месяц назад +2

    Isaiah with beard>

  • @Artefficient
    @Artefficient Месяц назад

    Interesting !
    Does that mean that taller athletes (longer limbs) benefit more from bodyweight plyometrics than shorter athletes or have quicker results from that type of training?

    • @IsaiahRivera1
      @IsaiahRivera1  Месяц назад +1

      Potentially yes if all other variables are the same(fiber typing, nervous system wiring, technique, etc.)

  • @Harrychen-nh6ep
    @Harrychen-nh6ep Месяц назад

    May I ask how to deal with Achilles tendinopathy?

  • @CoolColJ
    @CoolColJ Месяц назад

    I'm 5'8.5" and my femur is longer than Isiah's at 18 inches :o
    my tibia is shorter than my femur, and so I have lean over a bit even in a high bar squat

  • @DavidIntraday
    @DavidIntraday Месяц назад +4

    Im curious, have you guys ever ran into an 45+ vertical athlete that was just naturally that bouncy (never touched a weight).

    • @ploops
      @ploops Месяц назад +1

      i got to like 40 just doing body weight and plyos so they prob have

    • @JohnEvans
      @JohnEvans Месяц назад

      Anthony Height! Genetic freak

    • @DavidIntraday
      @DavidIntraday Месяц назад

      @@ploops wow, do you think you could hit 50 then if you were to start lifting like isiah

    • @ploops
      @ploops Месяц назад +1

      @@DavidIntraday i just started lifting hopefully by his age i can reach 50 🙏

    • @cloudfuel9166
      @cloudfuel9166 Месяц назад +1

      @@ploops height and weight? and good shit, you got this shit.

  • @josephbibbo9181
    @josephbibbo9181 Месяц назад

    I just imagined myself getting a power level scouter like Vegita’s in Dragon Ball Z and going to the gym and reading basketball player’s power levels.
    “Power level 3400 newtons!” 😂 😂 😂

  • @cortidavide
    @cortidavide Месяц назад

    I can't imagine what happens in the tendon of someone like Mutaz Barshim when he jumps; if he tore his patellar tendon he would probably generate an explosion

  • @sprayzfn4059
    @sprayzfn4059 Месяц назад +4

    Bro must get sick of saying 50.5 lmao

    • @IsaiahRivera1
      @IsaiahRivera1  Месяц назад +1

      Facts, I need it to be 51 already lmao

  • @mangulugulu9026
    @mangulugulu9026 Месяц назад

    does this mean that shorter people need to put into more work to get higher numbers in weight room?

    • @Muttal9348
      @Muttal9348 Месяц назад

      its more about relative strength

    • @IsaiahRivera1
      @IsaiahRivera1  Месяц назад +2

      Essentially yes, you need to have higher levels of relative strength the shorter you are

  • @friday6014
    @friday6014 Месяц назад

    Is there a useful takeaway that I missed?

    • @IsaiahRivera1
      @IsaiahRivera1  Месяц назад +2

      The shorter you are, the higher your relative strength in the weight room needs to be

  • @elijahgutierrez4970
    @elijahgutierrez4970 Месяц назад

    My torque is the same as Isaiah so does that mean I can jump just as high as I you guys one day?

  • @KuumbaOnline
    @KuumbaOnline Месяц назад

    Is Isaiah the Dom Toretto of jump torque?

  • @silasgaertner6296
    @silasgaertner6296 Месяц назад

    Still waiting for Isaiah to respond to my comments

    • @IsaiahRivera1
      @IsaiahRivera1  Месяц назад +1

      Hi

    • @silasgaertner6296
      @silasgaertner6296 Месяц назад

      Hi! I'm 5'6" 145lbs. 24" vert, big legs. But I can't figure out why I can't get higher off the ground. I have done swim team, basketball, running, cycling, weights, and other activities to strengthen my legs. Pls help, and THANK YOU!!!!

  • @DocRiv
    @DocRiv Месяц назад

    Ahhhh I’m going to be a giant attacking the weight room! LETS-FRIGGIN-GOOO!!!!

  • @domidunks
    @domidunks Месяц назад

    Man Titans got that crazy torque 🤣

  • @KuumbaOnline
    @KuumbaOnline Месяц назад +1

    So according to this, when Isaiah jumps he merely pushes the earth down 50.5 inches 🤔🤓😂 jk

    • @IsaiahRivera1
      @IsaiahRivera1  Месяц назад

      The earth doesn't budge(technically it budges a negligible amount) since it's so massive, but since I'm puny it pushes me up 50.5 inches haha

  • @judeowl
    @judeowl Месяц назад +1

    john you should grow your beard out

  • @Duoliniggo
    @Duoliniggo 26 дней назад

    Can anyone explain the video and what I can do to, maybe increase my torque

  • @Harrychen-nh6ep
    @Harrychen-nh6ep Месяц назад

    May I ask how to deal with Achilles tendinopathy?

  • @josephbibbo9181
    @josephbibbo9181 Месяц назад

    I just imagined myself getting a power level scouter like Vegita’s in Dragon Ball Z and going to the gym and reading basketball player’s power levels.
    “Power level 3400 newtons!” 😂 😂 😂