What a cute little girl! And giving her memories to last a lifetime! : ) Nice to see you guys working a JD on the farm! I keep coming back here for my John Deere fix!!!
Love these old tractors so much and especially the sound. This old factory will still be running when a lot of the newer ones will be dead. All it takes is a little maintenance and upkeep.
@@jonelsonster those of us who grew up with these tractors, will understand the fascination with them. My grandpa had a model A and it was the first thing I have ever drove! Could a model R run an old-fashioned circular sawmill?
I'm not familiar with how much power is needed to run a sawmill, but we've run an old McCormick thresher with an R and our 70D and they both do just fine. The R is about 50ish HP and our 70 is 55ish HP.
Excellent video Jolenstar :) yes John Deere R tractor doing super job and remember doing Harlws on farm back years ago to ! My uncle Bill my dad brother he use 1950 Cockshutt 40 gas motor with 510 McCormick International seed drill plant hay some feild also grains even corn seeds with Feriltzer Triple 9919 behind that Harwls ! When feilds done plow do Cows mauner spread then Cultivator with Harwls tow behind! One year the last feild on South barn flood over and used Harwls to get crop hay drink water over seed but crop hay didn't grow well and surprizes cow eat like nothing wrong after square bales made shocked use!
per osha standards, they are definitely not safe. But compared to row crop tractors of the same era, they seem to be a lot safer. The big operator's platform and fenders make a nice place for my little girls to ride along and help.
Those gopher mounds will all be back there by the time you cut hay so i think that was kind of a waste of time and diesel fuel. Other than that, your little girl will have memories to last her a lifetime. I grew up with the old 2-cyl. JD's. Ours ran on distillate though which is a mixture of gas and diesel fuel. You started them on gas which was a separate tank and then switched to the distillate once the engine is warmed up. We had an AR, BR, and G. Also had a TE20 Ferguson. My Grandpa had a JD "D" and a WD-45 Allis Chalmers. Thanks for the memories of the sound that is always dear to my heart, all these years later.
I say this not to argue but maybe just have public discussion, but I noticed the R started kinda rough in the shed. And the cloud of unburnt diesel showed how cold it was. (my eyes have stung from that bad haha). The pony didn't run very long beforehand. I really think it would have started better if the pony was able to warm up the diesel for a period of time. 5 minutes, 10 minutes. It's what they're made for and it's easier on both the engines, mechanically. It's always bad to take an engine and work it under full load, cold. Anyway, that's my opinion.
This is always something that I wonder about... How long do you need to run the pony motor. No doubt, we didn't run it long enough here. I was really surprised my Dad started cranking the engine as quickly as he did (with the wrong level too) but, how long is long enough in 40 degrees weather? 1 minute? 3 minutes? 5 minutes? Or, as some people say, run it until the gas tank runs out and then refill it, restart the pony, and the diesel just pops off. In cool weather, like this, my guess is two minutes or so of running the pony would help... But it's that long enough? I do not have much experience with pony motors, so I'd definitely welcome comments from others who used them every day starting their work tractors or dozers or graders. How long is long enough?
@@jonelsonsterFrankly, in cold weather, I don't have a set time .I'll start up the pony, and let it run while I do other things. 32F or below, probably 10 minutes minimum. I like touching the head of the diesel and actually feeling warmth. I've never had any issues doing it. Heck, since my tractors sit so much I'll do the same in warm weather, just to let the pony warm up slow and get the cobwebs out, so to speak. Another detail is him opening the diesel throttle early. Spraying in the diesel fuel for a long time like that actually cools off the cylinders. The offcial way is to crank with no compression til oil pressure (I usually do this for a good minute in cold weather), then add compression, for a few turns at least, then open the throttle. It should light right off once you add the throttle. If it doesn't, close the throttle and continue cranking to clear it out and let things warm up more
In my mind, one advantage the number series diesel tractors with the V4 pony have over the R pony is that they have the ability to adjust the throttle and engine speed. But another thing I'm curious about is what Deere did (if anything) in the design of the injectors or the combustion chamber to help the number series diesel tractors start better and ignite the fuel better. Because we have two Rs (granted one we've only had for a few months and have only started it about 5 times) but both of them smoke at initial start up. Even when I have run the pony for a couple of minutes prior to starting, unless it is 90+ degrees outside, the engine will smoke until there is heat in it. On our 70D and my dad's 830, which are both electric start, they start the instant fuel is applied. They just start easier and they don't smoke. But you're right about the starting procedure. I'm going to try going up to my dad's place this weekend and I'll have to test how well this R starts when i let the pony run for a little while. This will be a fun test.
@@jonelsonsterDeere was upgrading the injector and head designs all the time, I believe the R is Level #1 so to speak, the 70/80 was level #2, then #3 was the black dash 720/820 and 830s, so they definitely improved things. My 70/80 will smoke on a really cold start up, just like any diesel, but letting things warm up before does help. I'd love to hear the results of your test and you could even make content out of it
@@weirddeere well... I tested it out today. We let the pony run for a full 10 minutes. And it started just the same. Really no different than the last time. I made a video (not sure how well the footage turned out yet) and I'll see if I can get it edited for next week.
Yes, it has 26" rims on the rear instead of 34". And usually people run 23.1x26 tires, but these are only 18.4x26... so there aren't as wide or tall. But the previous owner also swapped out the front tires to be smaller, so it still sits level. With a smaller diameter rear tire it should pull better... Slower but better. At least I think. Maybe we'll take it to a pull this next year.
I don't know much about old tractors but do you have a gas engine in it to start the diesel engine? Another question, what state are you in? It definately looks like upper Rockies.
@@jonelsonster It looks beautiful where you live. That is one very cool tractor. My uncle gave me a John Deere tractor years ago but like a fool I sold it. I don't know what model it was but it had 2 cylinders that I calculated the displacement at 454 cubic inches. My cousin took the sparkplugs out of it and left it that way for years. Needless to say both cylinders were toast.
I would let pony run less than 5 minutes when the temperature was about 32 degrees. then engage the engine with no compression until oil pressure was full. The 720 was easy to start even at 10 degrees.
👍🏻 the video I'm releasing tomorrow tests out whether the diesel engine starts easier after warming up the pony engine. The results were not what I was expecting.
You dont have to run the pup motor near tha🎉t long at all i had R s 70s 720$ 730 820 never run them that long spring summer fire up pup what a min start decompress and drop the lever off she goes all the time
ruclips.net/video/RwrY7eRgkPw/видео.html Here is a good video explaining how the pony motor operates and the benefits of having one over the electric start diesel (superior in cold weather especially). This is the V4 engine though. Also explains a bit of how the drive system works to prevent damage to the pony motor.
Agreed, we probably should have let it run for a minute longer. The video I'm releasing this Friday afternoon tests out whether running the pony motor longer to warm up the diesel makes a difference.
Does your Dad work for the grease company? 😉 That's a lot of grease! But I bet most people (me included) probably didn't grease equipment enough. So this is a good reminder! 👍🏻
I know s guy who has an 820 and he always has a small 1 gallon gas can with him. I used to wonder why... But now that we have a few tractors with pony motors, I know why!
You're insane for holding your daughter in your lap while moving a tractor either in the field or down the road. You just demonstrated a situation we read about in the papers too often.
I did the same thing with my son when he was very young as well. Wouldn’t change it for the word. That’s the problem with people today,they don’t spend good quality time and teach children because they’re so damn afraid of everything and kids turn out useless.
You dont have to run the pup motor near tha🎉t long at all i had R s 70s 720$ 730 820 never run them that long spring summer fire up pup what a min start decompress and drop the lever off she goes all the time
We have a 70D, and two 830s that all pop off and start right away. But we have two R's and they both take a minute to start. Especially when it's down in the 40s like it was this day. It seems like Deere did something when they went from the R to the number series diesel tractors that seems to help them start easier.
You may not NEED to run the pup that long, but you SHOULD run it for a while. You don't start up any motor and put it to full load instantly. That's why a lot of the pup motors are shot, started put under full load and shut off. I always let my pup run for 3-5 minutes before letting the big motor get compression. The pup in mine is week from that exact abuse from previous owners that didn't understand how the tractor worked. Trying to nurse it along as long as I can because it costs like 2X the amount to rebuild that little pup then it does the diesel.
@@keltonwright7 yeah, I kinda thought he would have let it run for a minute or so. But he didn't. I guess we live and learn. It's probably ok... At least that's the hope.
It's good to let the pup run for a min. or two before putting it under a load. You want it to turn the big engine long enough to get the oil pressure up, then release the compression lever. I've had at least one R since the late 50's and currently have a '51 & '53. My big engines always start FAST, but I'm in Texas in a warmer climate.
@@lttl858 yeah, my big motor starts right up well when it's warm, but here in Canada, once you get down around to 25 - 32 , it's more of a cross your fingers type start. Diesel will fire but the pup struggles to roll it with thick 15w40 in it.
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That is a wonderful sound. Love the old 2 cylinders. Thank you
The sound of a 2 cylinder John Deere is iconic!
What a cute little girl! And giving her memories to last a lifetime! : ) Nice to see you guys working a JD on the farm! I keep coming back here for my John Deere fix!!!
I'm happy to be your JD dealer! 😂 Thanks for watching!
Love these old tractors so much and especially the sound. This old factory will still be running when a lot of the newer ones will be dead. All it takes is a little maintenance and upkeep.
That little daughter will have memories to last a lifetime. Grandpa, Dad, and Daughter will never forget that R.
If I can give her the same good childhood memories I had, then I will consider that a success
Absolutely have to love that sound from the R!
One of (if not the best) sounds ever produced by a machine!
@@jonelsonster those of us who grew up with these tractors, will understand the fascination with them. My grandpa had a model A and it was the first thing I have ever drove! Could a model R run an old-fashioned circular sawmill?
I'm not familiar with how much power is needed to run a sawmill, but we've run an old McCormick thresher with an R and our 70D and they both do just fine. The R is about 50ish HP and our 70 is 55ish HP.
Your dad sure loves getting the R started and working the field.
What's the fun of having them if you can't work them?
Diesel smoke, Pop out and bouncing, field smoothed and a sweet, silly girl to keep you company! All rightin that part of the world. Blessings
Agree 💯! Thanks!
@@jonelsonster You too!
Neat drag setup, I used to make some out of truck tires that I sawed in half ,and chained together. Thanks for Sharing.
Thanks 👍
Perfect amount of horse power for harrowing ! I like it
Better go have a little extra HP rather than to be down 😂
Excellent video Jolenstar :) yes John Deere R tractor doing super job and remember doing Harlws on farm back years ago to ! My uncle Bill my dad brother he use 1950 Cockshutt 40 gas motor with 510 McCormick International seed drill plant hay some feild also grains even corn seeds with Feriltzer Triple 9919 behind that Harwls ! When feilds done plow do Cows mauner spread then Cultivator with Harwls tow behind! One year the last feild on South barn flood over and used Harwls to get crop hay drink water over seed but crop hay didn't grow well and surprizes cow eat like nothing wrong after square bales made shocked use!
fertilizer in the spring pays dividends later in the year!
Pony motor is strong! Pretty scenery in the background and with the shorter tires, it does look kinda like an AR.
I'll have to do a side by side with our 51 AR and this R with the short tires, and then our other R that has the 34" tires.
Nice straight tractor. Same age as me!
Very cool 😎
That tractor design looks like a very safe way to take kids for rides on.
per osha standards, they are definitely not safe. But compared to row crop tractors of the same era, they seem to be a lot safer. The big operator's platform and fenders make a nice place for my little girls to ride along and help.
Those gopher mounds will all be back there by the time you cut hay so i think that was kind of a waste of time and diesel fuel. Other than that, your little girl will have memories to last her a lifetime. I grew up with the old 2-cyl. JD's. Ours ran on distillate though which is a mixture of gas and diesel fuel. You started them on gas which was a separate tank and then switched to the distillate once the engine is warmed up. We had an AR, BR, and G. Also had a TE20 Ferguson. My Grandpa had a JD "D" and a WD-45 Allis Chalmers. Thanks for the memories of the sound that is always dear to my heart, all these years later.
They will come back, but they will be smaller. We fight this market each year.
Nice to watch.
Thanks for watching! 👍🏻
I traded my R for an 830 both damn good tractors I really miss the 830 !!!
Yeah, the 830 is a power house. And it is quite a bit nicer and powerful than an R
It's just a rite of spring getting the drags and the A and a disk on the G and getting into the fields for some spring tillage.
I like spring because there is a lot of tractor work prepping for the season.
ack in the old days where everything was so well built you could take your bed frame out and work a field down with it and still be home for supper. 😋
We definitely live in a consumer society now days. I think that's why I like working with these old tractors... They were built to last.
I say this not to argue but maybe just have public discussion, but I noticed the R started kinda rough in the shed. And the cloud of unburnt diesel showed how cold it was. (my eyes have stung from that bad haha). The pony didn't run very long beforehand. I really think it would have started better if the pony was able to warm up the diesel for a period of time. 5 minutes, 10 minutes. It's what they're made for and it's easier on both the engines, mechanically. It's always bad to take an engine and work it under full load, cold. Anyway, that's my opinion.
This is always something that I wonder about... How long do you need to run the pony motor. No doubt, we didn't run it long enough here. I was really surprised my Dad started cranking the engine as quickly as he did (with the wrong level too) but, how long is long enough in 40 degrees weather? 1 minute? 3 minutes? 5 minutes? Or, as some people say, run it until the gas tank runs out and then refill it, restart the pony, and the diesel just pops off. In cool weather, like this, my guess is two minutes or so of running the pony would help... But it's that long enough? I do not have much experience with pony motors, so I'd definitely welcome comments from others who used them every day starting their work tractors or dozers or graders. How long is long enough?
@@jonelsonsterFrankly, in cold weather, I don't have a set time .I'll start up the pony, and let it run while I do other things. 32F or below, probably 10 minutes minimum. I like touching the head of the diesel and actually feeling warmth. I've never had any issues doing it. Heck, since my tractors sit so much I'll do the same in warm weather, just to let the pony warm up slow and get the cobwebs out, so to speak. Another detail is him opening the diesel throttle early. Spraying in the diesel fuel for a long time like that actually cools off the cylinders. The offcial way is to crank with no compression til oil pressure (I usually do this for a good minute in cold weather), then add compression, for a few turns at least, then open the throttle. It should light right off once you add the throttle. If it doesn't, close the throttle and continue cranking to clear it out and let things warm up more
In my mind, one advantage the number series diesel tractors with the V4 pony have over the R pony is that they have the ability to adjust the throttle and engine speed. But another thing I'm curious about is what Deere did (if anything) in the design of the injectors or the combustion chamber to help the number series diesel tractors start better and ignite the fuel better. Because we have two Rs (granted one we've only had for a few months and have only started it about 5 times) but both of them smoke at initial start up. Even when I have run the pony for a couple of minutes prior to starting, unless it is 90+ degrees outside, the engine will smoke until there is heat in it. On our 70D and my dad's 830, which are both electric start, they start the instant fuel is applied. They just start easier and they don't smoke.
But you're right about the starting procedure. I'm going to try going up to my dad's place this weekend and I'll have to test how well this R starts when i let the pony run for a little while. This will be a fun test.
@@jonelsonsterDeere was upgrading the injector and head designs all the time, I believe the R is Level #1 so to speak, the 70/80 was level #2, then #3 was the black dash 720/820 and 830s, so they definitely improved things. My 70/80 will smoke on a really cold start up, just like any diesel, but letting things warm up before does help. I'd love to hear the results of your test and you could even make content out of it
@@weirddeere well... I tested it out today. We let the pony run for a full 10 minutes. And it started just the same. Really no different than the last time. I made a video (not sure how well the footage turned out yet) and I'll see if I can get it edited for next week.
First R I've seen with the smaller diameter tires....looks like a big AR!
Yes, it has 26" rims on the rear instead of 34". And usually people run 23.1x26 tires, but these are only 18.4x26... so there aren't as wide or tall. But the previous owner also swapped out the front tires to be smaller, so it still sits level. With a smaller diameter rear tire it should pull better... Slower but better. At least I think. Maybe we'll take it to a pull this next year.
Yes, it should pull better and from previous videos, I think it does!@@jonelsonster
That tractor has the most restful sound. We had a 70
Nothing beats the sound of a two cylinder John Deere... Especially a diesel two cylinder!
I needed some two cylinder diesel therepy today. Had to start up the 70D and let it run for a while. This helped even more!
We spread a few ton of fertilizer a few weeks ago with our 70D. It ran like a top all afternoon.
I don't know much about old tractors but do you have a gas engine in it to start the diesel engine? Another question, what state are you in? It definately looks like upper Rockies.
Yes sir. Start the big diesel with a little gas pony motor. And you're right... Rocky mountains. Beautiful cache valley Utah.
@@jonelsonster It looks beautiful where you live.
That is one very cool tractor. My uncle gave me a John Deere tractor years ago but like a fool I sold it. I don't know what model it was but it had 2 cylinders that I calculated the displacement at 454 cubic inches. My cousin took the sparkplugs out of it and left it that way for years. Needless to say both cylinders were toast.
I would let pony run less than 5 minutes when the temperature was about 32 degrees. then engage the engine with no compression until oil pressure was full. The 720 was easy to start even at 10 degrees.
👍🏻 the video I'm releasing tomorrow tests out whether the diesel engine starts easier after warming up the pony engine. The results were not what I was expecting.
Wow lots of gopher hills
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You dont have to run the pup motor near tha🎉t long at all i had R s 70s 720$ 730 820 never run them that long spring summer fire up pup what a min start decompress and drop the lever off she goes all the time
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what size tire do you have on the front?
It's smaller than stock so that it still sits level with the smaller diameter rear wheels. I think it's 9.5x15, but I'll check.
ruclips.net/video/RwrY7eRgkPw/видео.html Here is a good video explaining how the pony motor operates and the benefits of having one over the electric start diesel (superior in cold weather especially). This is the V4 engine though. Also explains a bit of how the drive system works to prevent damage to the pony motor.
There are definitely some benefits of the pony motor... But the jury is still out (depending on who you talk to) as to which is better.
John Deere trator co. 😂😂
I should have been born back in the 30s so that I could have worked for Deere's design team. Ha Ha!
That seems fast gor 4th id say 5th gear hes in
We were harrowing in 4th.
nice tractor let the pony run longer before you engage the big motor so it will heat up the air intake for the diesel engine
Agreed, we probably should have let it run for a minute longer. The video I'm releasing this Friday afternoon tests out whether running the pony motor longer to warm up the diesel makes a difference.
like LANZ BULLDOG.
that is one tractor I've never seen in real life that would be fun to see!
@@jonelsonster ruclips.net/user/shortsU_jhCoenWn0?si=WjFg2BKl50Wv60io
my dad said you needed to grease the front end about 4 times a day
Does your Dad work for the grease company? 😉 That's a lot of grease! But I bet most people (me included) probably didn't grease equipment enough. So this is a good reminder! 👍🏻
Why john deere made such a small tank for pony motor. Too small I say
I know s guy who has an 820 and he always has a small 1 gallon gas can with him. I used to wonder why... But now that we have a few tractors with pony motors, I know why!
You're insane for holding your daughter in your lap while moving a tractor either in the field or down the road. You just demonstrated a situation we read about in the papers too often.
I'm that case, my dad was insane too. And I'm grateful for it because the time I spent as a kid with him on a tractor are good memories.
I did the same thing with my son when he was very young as well. Wouldn’t change it for the word. That’s the problem with people today,they don’t spend good quality time and teach children because they’re so damn afraid of everything and kids turn out useless.
@@plumcreekfarms8138 right on point
You dont have to run the pup motor near tha🎉t long at all i had R s 70s 720$ 730 820 never run them that long spring summer fire up pup what a min start decompress and drop the lever off she goes all the time
We have a 70D, and two 830s that all pop off and start right away. But we have two R's and they both take a minute to start. Especially when it's down in the 40s like it was this day. It seems like Deere did something when they went from the R to the number series diesel tractors that seems to help them start easier.
You may not NEED to run the pup that long, but you SHOULD run it for a while. You don't start up any motor and put it to full load instantly. That's why a lot of the pup motors are shot, started put under full load and shut off. I always let my pup run for 3-5 minutes before letting the big motor get compression. The pup in mine is week from that exact abuse from previous owners that didn't understand how the tractor worked. Trying to nurse it along as long as I can because it costs like 2X the amount to rebuild that little pup then it does the diesel.
@@keltonwright7 yeah, I kinda thought he would have let it run for a minute or so. But he didn't. I guess we live and learn. It's probably ok... At least that's the hope.
It's good to let the pup run for a min. or two before putting it under a load. You want it to turn the big engine long enough to get the oil pressure up, then release the compression lever. I've had at least one R since the late 50's and currently have a '51 & '53. My big engines always start FAST, but I'm in Texas in a warmer climate.
@@lttl858 yeah, my big motor starts right up well when it's warm, but here in Canada, once you get down around to 25 - 32 , it's more of a cross your fingers type start. Diesel will fire but the pup struggles to roll it with thick 15w40 in it.