eli10ny75 psn Thing is, why do you think game developers give an early copy of their game to a bunch of reviewers before the game hits shelves? Reviewers without that privilege have to make videos weeks late if they're going to make a good review at all.
To be fair, the protagonist of Sleeping Dogs Wei Shen was still a cop. Furthermore he never went 100% rogue either, The cop he was working for went rogue yes. Wei Shen had to be the way he was so that he could get inside the Triads and take them down from the inside. Now a GTA with a cop that goes totally rogue would be dope (as in completely rebels and goes total anarchist).
I still like GTA San Andreas better, because at least you get Mike Toreno telling you to steal a harrier jet, destroy 3 other harrier jets, blow up a few ships, and claiming that harrier jet as yours. In a nonchalant fashion. Oh, and a jetpack. I don't think GTA V has a jetpack.
A custom soundtrack option would've been fucking awesome. This is a billion dollar game, why the fuck doesn't it have the option? You can upload mp3's to both consoles.
Razorfist: "who's in charge of these fucking soundtracks?" That'd be Lazlow. He's done all the sound stuff for every GTA game since 3. On one hand I kinda sorta understand some of the bad music choices and think they match up with the millennial hipster jabs they swing in the game. On the other hand I would've preferred Womanizer over Gimme More & no fucking Rihanna. An 80s station would've been nice over having more than one rap & hispanic station.
GTA 5 missions were a step in the right direction at least. Far more imaginative than GTA 4. I just wish they'd done a bit more with each person's personal story line because Franklin becomes irrelevant after a while, I mean they could have added a whole gang war type thing that he had to balance with his commitments to the heists but no they just ignored it until you shot a guy at the end.
I'm a little late here, but yeah, I liked the gang war system from San Andreas, it gave some urgency to what you were doing. Seeing as how there still isn't a GTA 6 it would be nice to see that come back.
Definitely agree when it comes with needing to freshen it up with the story. How many times can we play "try to get rich in parody America"? Actually, I read on a couple places that the ORIGINAL idea for GTA was to have your character be a cop, and I would love a return to that idea for the 6th game. By now it's obvious FIB has tons of crooked and corrupted areas of the organization, so have a story centered in there. Tons of potential.
Ive been dreaming of a gritty, smoky, cyberpunk GTA ever since GTA3. Complete with augmented limbs, hacking, and a desert wasteland area like Road Warrior.
@@SpooferJahk Spoofer's Junk The futuristic cyberpunk stuff was already there in GTA2, it's just the graphical medium of the game wasn't ideal for expressing it visually. But narratively, both in work about the game's story & setting in the manual & online, it's inspired by the dystopias seen in the cyberpunk genre. You remember The SRS Scientists in area 2, the Residents District? The "Sex & Reproduction Systems" Scientists, the yellow gang in the Residential District located in the South East portion of the map, are literally a gang comprised of genetically engineered clones. CLONES. A futuristic company based on genetic & reproductive research has built its foot soldiers to control the streets with an army of clones. The zany & whacky ideas in GTA2 is something I wish RockStar would revisit
They did fuck up with the soundtrack. Razor, you ever play GTA: Vice City Stories? It's got Accept, Scorpions, Dio and Judas Priest up to your fucking eyeballs.
I like how Radio X went from an awesome grunge/early 90's rock channel in GTA:SA to fucking 80's punk in GTAV. The soundtrack was definitely the worst part of the game. It was better than GTAIV's but that's like saying drinking piss is better than eating shit.
Get over yourself. Radio X (which was very lackluster / narrow in scope for an 'alternative' station) is not Channel X, which represents a snapshot of LA that had a demographic both then and now. In fact the lack of a third-wave 90's LA punk/hardcore station in GTA:SA was a pretty glaring omission. Much like the lack of an LA Metal / thrash station in both games.
You forgot to mention the rather anticlimactic ending which just comes out of nowhere and has absolutely no emotional pay-off. It seems like they focused so much on building "satire" that they forgot how to craft a coherent, fluid story. That said, there were a lot of good moments. I just wish they were better connected.
You didnt mention anything about the player choice system. The entire narrative is so linear that by the end of the game when it pulls a fucking mass effect, 2/3 of the choices make no fucking sense to the character. That and the heists got lazy near the end of the game. Robbing the Fucking the Gov gold reserves was faaaar to easy for the hype the characters made it out to be
Thank you! Finally someone who isn't jammed so far up Rockstar's ass that I can agree with. I loved GTA 5, but it's like you said, I'm afraid they're getting into too comfortable of a position with their storylines. I REALLY hope the GTA series doesn't go the way of the first-person C.O.D fish and get worse with each iteration.
***** Don't get me wrong, I love GTA, especially the gameplay. I just don't want rockstar to rest on their laurels and churn out GTA iterations just for the hype the name creates alone, we've seen it happen before and each time a dev did that the games got progressively worse/more disappointing. As for the story, yes GTA isn't all about the plot line, but with open world games it's often beneficial to have some context given to what you're doing. It's one of the reasons why Rockstar's Red Dead Redemption was so successful.
@@SpikeDawg45 The sad thing is in a way it's already heading down that path. They keep retelling GTA 3 story with slight variations here & their to make it seem new. It's like because 3 was such a hit they don't want it to end so they keep repeating themselves. Vice city=GTA 3 Miami edition, San Andras= GTA 3 Urban edition GTA 4= GTA 3 Foreign refugee edition & this one is GTA 5= GTA 3 LA edition.
It seems Rockstars idea of originality is when you don't know what to do after 15 years of alternating between the Reservoir Dogs, Sopranos, and every early 90's MTV gangsta rap cliche known to man is to, of course, throw them all into a single game and continue to essentially commit open robbery at the expense of every sub 100 IQ idiot on the planet who still thinks it's 19 fucking 94. Most overrated series in the history of gaming.
I liked gta V ...but I didn't love it. Like Razorfist said "Give me something to do with this character". Franklin had the potential to be my favorite character if he wasn't put as the 3rd wheel on the Rockstar bike. I wanted to see more of his life. Instead Lester gave him a house in the hills and the game was like "Ok...fuck Franklin! Now you're gonna watch Michael and Trevor play hot potato all game and Franklin will caaasualy come once in a while to say hi in a mission that requires 3 people".
TL;DR version: I haven't touched my 360 since I first played GTA5; it made me fall out of love with gaming just the same way Mass Effect 3 did. I couldn't stand the first hour of gameplay, honestly. I mean, GTA IV was clunky, but at least the characters had some respectable motivation. The awful, self-pitying asshat that is Jimmy... he was just so unpleasant that his little tirade after the freeway yacht chase was enough to put me off the game for good. I tried booting up my 360 the next day, but I felt this deep apprehension hit me, like forcing myself to go out to a party full of people I knew I couldn't stand. Rockstar crafted an ugly, soulless world full of ugly, soulless people, and the worst part is this: Rockstar takes their "satire" seriously, and acts like they're holding up a mirror to America and saying "this is you." I don't have to listen to that, I don't want to, and I won't.
yeah i've been debating on selling my gta5 game for awile since it's not even fun and such a chore to play now. I had a better time playing FarCry3 for another time than GTA5
How odd, isn't denial the inmediate reaction when confronted with an ugly truth? Maybe you saw a little bit too much of yourself in Jimmy in that post car-chase speech.
GTA IV's helicopters were perfect. I remember getting home from school on a Friday, grabbing some pizza and getting in with a bunch of friends with buzzards and fighting lobbies of pilots off at once. Flying a helicopter on GTA IV game took actual practice and skill. The mini gun had no cross hairs so you needed to be able to aim it with your eyes. I can't tell you how satisfying it was to shoot the KSA guy spamming missiles in a circle with 3 sprays and killing him before he even Knicks you. There was absolutely nothing wrong with GTA IV's helicopters if you didn't practice. To me helicopters are what made the game fun. Fuck this heat seeking nonsense, I want to shoot rocket pods and hit a target from 100 feet away. That's a hell of a lot more fun than aiming and waiting for a beep.
Not sure if I was just younger and more easily amused by the earlier games, or if the jokes have gotten worse as of late. Of all these dumb sandbox crime games I think Saints Row 2 was the most impressive. Mostly silly but with the odd heart-string-puller to keep you guessing. Also the sleepwalker physics had the effect of sedating the characters during those horrendous cutscenes. Actually playing the game is like drunk driving.
80% of the channels were dedicated to hip hop, rap and obscure electronic music. Great if you want to get high in your low rider but if you're 95% of the population that doesn't care about that shit then you're fucked. Out of like 12 radio stations there was one for pop music (that's alright to crap imo) and 1 COUNTEM 1 station that had reliably good music on it. Even if you don't like rock, you can't deny that there was pretty much no choice.
Helos always give me a problem in every game, and honestly I wouldn't have it any other way. I'm not an aviator and I prefer two wheels to two propellers.
Blakobness It's like every developer ever has specifically gone out of their way to make the Helicopters impossible to control with any sort of tightness. (Of course, there are exceptions. Probably.)
GTIV is where I first heard the Smashing Pumpkins and now (almost a decade later) they're my favorite band. I can't really agree 100% on the soundtrack given that, but I see what you mean.
That shout out to “Sleeping Dogs” at the beginning! Just another reason I like Razorfist! That game is one of the most slept on games from last generation. (Or PS3 I guess). And the music… that used to be one of the best parts of “GTA” games! “Vice City” is probably my favorite, but really any of them, excluding “GAT 5”, could be in the number one spot!
Thank you Razorfist the three major we both agree on about GTA 5. 1: They play it safe which am not surprise because of what happen in GTA 4. 2: They gave Franklin little to do in the game unless he was with his boy Lamar. 3: The music was lacking in this one, there only a few good songs in almost each genre, the ones I like in there where Eddie Murphy song, Geto Boys, and ect. I am person that likes all different types of music and I am a big fan of Rap/Hip-Hop but even I was like where is the Rock & Metal at ?
Speaking of Rap/Hip-Hop, how about West Coast Classics. Two NWA songs, an Ice Cube song, and King Tee featuring Ice Cube and Breeze. Two Dr. Dre songs, one featuring Snoop Dogg, the other featuring Snoop Dogg, Kurupt and Nate Dogg. Snoop Dogg has a song of his own. Kurupt has one on his own, one as Tha Dogg Pound (which features Snoop Dogg), and Mack 10 featuring Tha Dogg Pound. Then there's a Compton's Most Wanted song, and a solo song by Mc Eiht. Collaborations are huge in Rap, sure, but even when limited to the 90s west coast scene, there's enough to avoid so many overlaps.
Korgull6669 there should have been an east coast station like in san andreas, that or an underground hip hop station, there are tonnes of amazing hip hop acts from or based in the west coast, the whole of stones throw records pretty much (Madlib, Houseshoes, J Dilla later in his life was based in LA, the list goes on), there was potential for an astounding soundtrack here and it slumped like hell, Fly Lo FM, Channel X, and the Lowdown were pretty good though
Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't there already a GTA game set in the mid 80's? Vice city? Okay, that's a crappy excuse if they can make more than one modern day GTA I think they can do another one set in the 80's.
I always wanted a GTA set in an O'Niell Cylinder set in the early stages of space colonization. It wouldn't go full "Saint's Row with the guns, it would keep it at a really hard Sc-fi tech level.
Having officially completed this game, I will whole heartedly agree with you on the music selection, it is BAD, but then again, it's a game with a contemporary setting, and a lot of contemporary music is pretty shitty, but GTA 4 had a similar setting but I still thought the music in THAT game was really kick ass. Not sure what you mean but I thought Franklin was an imperative part of the story and gameplay, his special driving ability was REALLY handy, and narrative wise he's a foil for Mike and trevor, he's a young ambitious criminal with his eyes on the prize while they're both middle aged, grumpy and have had their priorities screwed up. juxtaposition man. Also the whole "dark side of the american dream" theme is not really the main focus, it's mainly a character study of guys roped in the crime field who try to secure their own futures with whatever means they can, which to me is just as derivative as the whole "american dream" thing, we kind of saw that already in ballad of gay tony, vice city, etc. but I've become so connected to the characters that it didn't bother me that much. The whole american dream thing was explored vastly in GTA 4 and quite nearly perfectly I might add. As tacked on as the choice system kind of was in that game, it really made me genuinely think about the choices I've made and whether they were morally sound or not given the context of all that's happened, in my eyes, if a choice mechanic in a game elicits that type of thought from a player, than it's done right. Niko still remains the most likable and identifiable of all the protagonists in the series, we can all relate to having a horrible past event that no matter how hard we try, we just can't seem to escape from. I thought the game was very good, but man it takes TOO goddamn long for the wanted status to disappear.
The fact that a game allows you I customize to your favorite standard is great. The fact that the first impression of a game's standard and what it tells you to e through the story is something else. After all, if no customization exists then the game still needs to be good just on its basic gameplay, mission innovation, and other varieties that a player doesn't have to put hours in to finally make the game seem right!
Saints Row 2 still has my favourite metal station in all of gaming. Opeth, Mastodon, The Agony Scene, The Dillinger Escape Plan, As I Lay Dying, Lamb of God, 3 Inches of Blood, Chimaira, The Black Dahlia Murder, Trivium, even the Avenged Sevenfold song was catchy. GTA: The Lost and Damned had some really good metal too imo, the clubhouse would always play Call From The Grave by Bathory and it sounded fuckin awesome.
Why couldn't GTA V have a similar soundtrack to the DLC on GTA IV. GTA IV had Bathory, Deicide (my favorite band), Cannibal Corpse, Terrorizer, At the Gates, etc.
Excellent review man. That Cobra game idea would be excellent, hell game companies already going after nostalgia sales. Rockstar might as well do one since they aren't doing anything else worthwhile.
Recently found in GTA V, a poster for GTA VI... we're going back to Vice City. My only hope is that they bring it up to the 1990's, give you more of a non-linear narrative, and have a soundtrack to match, because if not... then the game will suck harder than a hoover in the middle of a black hole.
Amen! I have been fantasizing about a GTA rogue cop game since GTA3. The one decent guy in a world of law enforcement agency incompetence who takes down the gangs and the corrupt cops and takes the mayor's secretary to dinner after all the bad guys are dead and her boss has been arrested. Make it a parody of 80s and 90s action flicks, fix the soundtrack and is that just hot stuff or what?!
I agree with the radiostations sucks I cant have custom soundtrack since I have the PS3 version but overall it was my 2013 game of the year for me. I did more things here and so much areas to explore compare to GTA4 plus it finally brought back the mini gun from GTA Vice city back
Glad you mentioned the helicopter controls. I don't want to go back to the amount of swearing that came out of my mouth when I had to practice riding one as Michael. Ugh. And to be honest, I got a little tired of the soundtrack after playing GTA Online. And let's not talk about the online.
Great Review as always Razorfist, are you going to do a Retrospective for the GTA franchise? Oh and there is no such thing as being over-obsessed with Queen ;P
The 2 things I hate the most in this game is the Wanted Level system and the piece of shit online that Rockstar keeps spewing DLC fucking towards instead of a actual fucking single player story DLC that they will never give us. At least Red Dead Redemption had some decent amount of Multiplayer DLC but at least it had a single player DLC in the form of Zombies where still to this day is one of the best DLC expansions in video games of this decade so far but we are given fuck all still to this day for GTA 5 cause all they give a shit about is the godawful online that Red Dead Redemption is still miles ahead better than it.
I've put a horrendous amount of hours into GTA, but mostly in the online. The lack of real damage and wonky physics with cars has given me hours of throwing expensive supercars at various obstacles. Say what you want about realism, but there's something to be said for driving a Turismo off the mountain, flipping it 3 times, and landing wheels down just before plowing straight into a rock
Can some well-read meme enthusiast tell me what that indistinct grumbling of that dude in 7:02 right after Monty Python is from? It sounds like the hangover morning gripes of a pissed off Sim.
"Grand Theft Auto is back!" I disagree. Where's my jetpack? Where are my gang wars or other acquisition of territory? Where are the fucking emergency vehicle missions (ambulance, fire truck, etc.)? Or demolition derby, or tons of buyable safe houses? GTA 5 sucked, dude, I'm surprised to find you saying otherwise. Also, you're applauding the pussification (R.I.P, George Carlin) of the driving in GTA games. That you could actually destroy your car if you weren't careful (i.e., skilled) enough in the older GTA games was a *good* thing. That you can magically flip your car back onto its wheels in GTA 5 is not. I mean seriously, for all the hard rock HELL YEAH LET'S FUCK LIFE IN THE ASS image you put forth, having to scramble out of your car just before it explodes was *exciting* and you should be missing that.
+Vic 2.0 I think the problem is that he's comparing it with GTA 4 in these respects, in which case it's a step in the right direction as 5 is generally closer to it's other predecessors than 4 ever was. As for the driving, I think the problem was that the physics were too batshit crazy in GTA 4 and too tame in GTA 5.
Tytee Tagor I think if you read my comment without any bias, you'll realize that at no point do I say "I like GTA: San Andreas more because it's older/old school" or anything like that. I give very practical reasons for preferring one over the other. If GTA: San Andreas *didn't* have a jetpack, gang wars, emergency vehicle missions, demolition derby and more buyable safehouses but GTA 5 *did,* I'd be saying something different. As for canceling GTA as a series, I'd be fine with it! But not because I don't know what I want; rather, because I *do* know, and it isn't all this imagery over substance crap! I'm playing games like Just Cause 2 and Sleeping Dogs now. I've grown tired of GTA because it's just plain boring by comparison. And yes, the epitome of that suckiness is GTA 5.
I was really disappointed by the plot of 5, mainly because it felt as if there wasn;t one. I mean in IV at the very least there was a set goal for Nico and a clear antagonist that was in some way a threat. In 5 though it was like they kept throwing random plot bricks into a washing machine to see which ones weren't spat straight out again. It was just a random series of events cobbled together while our three heroes meandered about and tried to figure out what to do until the game threw its hands up and said *"Fuck it"* before adding *"Go kill that Chinese guy, the FBI asshole and the douchebag who owns the PMC. Just do it."*
Nailed it, I had this empty feeling after completing the game and didn't really know what to make of it but this video has filled the gaps, and still has me longing for the day until I play a GTA game that tops San Andreas, fun story, great amount of variety for its time, very likable characters, amazing setting and soundtrack and the comedy aspects were top notch. Also, fuck Trevor, he's overrated and his act gets tiring really fucking fast... By the end of it I was relieved to not hear anymore of Trevor's shenanigans and constant complaining, he left such a bad taste in my mouth that not even a jar full of fermented Vegemite mixed in with Jenkem leftovers could overpower it. God fucking speed bruh.
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*Just kept nodding and nodding and nodding to the music selection rant*
Just keep nodding. Just keep nodding. Just keep nodding, nodding, nodding. What do you do? Just nod, nod, nod.....
great video but 2 months late to the party
eli10ny75 psn Thing is, why do you think game developers give an early copy of their game to a bunch of reviewers before the game hits shelves? Reviewers without that privilege have to make videos weeks late if they're going to make a good review at all.
eli10ny75 psn
If people can upload videos reviewing Atari 2600 games, then I think someone can review a two month old game.
I enjoyed a lot of the music in the game, but to each their own.
I would play the shit out of a GTA game where you play as a rogue cop. It would be like Dirty Harry, only you could play it.
have it be like Party Hard where the "cop" is actually one of many personalities
True Crime
A rogue cop GTA would be fucking awesome.
True crime was more or less that
Sleeping dogs
To be fair, the protagonist of Sleeping Dogs Wei Shen was still a cop. Furthermore he never went 100% rogue either, The cop he was working for went rogue yes. Wei Shen had to be the way he was so that he could get inside the Triads and take them down from the inside.
Now a GTA with a cop that goes totally rogue would be dope (as in completely rebels and goes total anarchist).
@@richix64 True Crime was broken, but i still liked it at the time.
Heck, simply playing a cop in GTA would be a bonus.
I always love how Rageaholic reviews even if there positive makes you think "Wow that part of game sounds horrible."
The problem with Rockstar's writing is that they draw too much inspiration from film and TV, and not enough from literature and factual research.
Pretty much, GTA Vice City was a remake of Scarface.
That’s why RDR is their magnum opus. GTA is the guilty pleasure.
@@samplexample I agree totally.
That’s the whole point lol. That’s a good thing
@@samplexampleno it isn’t lol. GTA 5 is their magnum opus. The movie like attitude is the whole point.
They fuse it perfectly
I still like GTA San Andreas better, because at least you get Mike Toreno telling you to steal a harrier jet, destroy 3 other harrier jets, blow up a few ships, and claiming that harrier jet as yours. In a nonchalant fashion.
Oh, and a jetpack. I don't think GTA V has a jetpack.
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Online it sure does. The jetpack, I mean.
James Woods stole every scene as Toreno. Easily my favorite character in San Andreas.
A custom soundtrack option would've been fucking awesome. This is a billion dollar game, why the fuck doesn't it have the option? You can upload mp3's to both consoles.
Razorfist: "who's in charge of these fucking soundtracks?"
That'd be Lazlow. He's done all the sound stuff for every GTA game since 3. On one hand I kinda sorta understand some of the bad music choices and think they match up with the millennial hipster jabs they swing in the game. On the other hand I would've preferred Womanizer over Gimme More & no fucking Rihanna. An 80s station would've been nice over having more than one rap & hispanic station.
GTA 5 missions were a step in the right direction at least. Far more imaginative than GTA 4. I just wish they'd done a bit more with each person's personal story line because Franklin becomes irrelevant after a while, I mean they could have added a whole gang war type thing that he had to balance with his commitments to the heists but no they just ignored it until you shot a guy at the end.
I'm a little late here, but yeah, I liked the gang war system from San Andreas, it gave some urgency to what you were doing. Seeing as how there still isn't a GTA 6 it would be nice to see that come back.
Definitely agree when it comes with needing to freshen it up with the story. How many times can we play "try to get rich in parody America"?
Actually, I read on a couple places that the ORIGINAL idea for GTA was to have your character be a cop, and I would love a return to that idea for the 6th game. By now it's obvious FIB has tons of crooked and corrupted areas of the organization, so have a story centered in there. Tons of potential.
Vice City had a killer soundtrack.
Ive been dreaming of a gritty, smoky, cyberpunk GTA ever since GTA3. Complete with augmented limbs, hacking, and a desert wasteland area like Road Warrior.
Keoni Anderson They should get the rights to Shadowrun and make Shadowrun into GTA.
hardrockfreak1337 Absolutely.
Keoni Anderson GTA: Shadow Run? I can get behind that.
+Keoni Anderson Rockstar needs to go back to Anywhere City from 2, and then add the whole futuristic cyberpunk stuff to it.
@@SpooferJahk Spoofer's Junk The futuristic cyberpunk stuff was already there in GTA2, it's just the graphical medium of the game wasn't ideal for expressing it visually. But narratively, both in work about the game's story & setting in the manual & online, it's inspired by the dystopias seen in the cyberpunk genre. You remember The SRS Scientists in area 2, the Residents District? The "Sex & Reproduction Systems" Scientists, the yellow gang in the Residential District located in the South East portion of the map, are literally a gang comprised of genetically engineered clones. CLONES. A futuristic company based on genetic & reproductive research has built its foot soldiers to control the streets with an army of clones. The zany & whacky ideas in GTA2 is something I wish RockStar would revisit
This guy really loves his hyperboles.
Omg I LOVE the idea of a GTA game set around an 80's action movie setting where you can be rogue cop! I would buy that day one if they ever make it
you know you've been watching razor to much when you can do "god fucking speed" the exact time he quotes it
They did fuck up with the soundtrack. Razor, you ever play GTA: Vice City Stories? It's got Accept, Scorpions, Dio and Judas Priest up to your fucking eyeballs.
When your game is a tribute to the 80's, you'd better fucking have some metal in there. Literally no excuse not to.
Gord Lord his pic is from an amazing game called Chrono Trigger it's not an anime how can u not know what it is
I like how Radio X went from an awesome grunge/early 90's rock channel in GTA:SA to fucking 80's punk in GTAV. The soundtrack was definitely the worst part of the game. It was better than GTAIV's but that's like saying drinking piss is better than eating shit.
Get over yourself. Radio X (which was very lackluster / narrow in scope for an 'alternative' station) is not Channel X, which represents a snapshot of LA that had a demographic both then and now. In fact the lack of a third-wave 90's LA punk/hardcore station in GTA:SA was a pretty glaring omission. Much like the lack of an LA Metal / thrash station in both games.
You forgot to mention the rather anticlimactic ending which just comes out of nowhere and has absolutely no emotional pay-off. It seems like they focused so much on building "satire" that they forgot how to craft a coherent, fluid story. That said, there were a lot of good moments. I just wish they were better connected.
The music choices could've been a hell of alot better. WHERE'S THE FUCKIN' METAL ROCKSTAR!? I miss Vrock and KDST!
You didnt mention anything about the player choice system. The entire narrative is so linear that by the end of the game when it pulls a fucking mass effect, 2/3 of the choices make no fucking sense to the character.
That and the heists got lazy near the end of the game. Robbing the Fucking the Gov gold reserves was faaaar to easy for the hype the characters made it out to be
Thank you! Finally someone who isn't jammed so far up Rockstar's ass that I can agree with. I loved GTA 5, but it's like you said, I'm afraid they're getting into too comfortable of a position with their storylines. I REALLY hope the GTA series doesn't go the way of the first-person C.O.D fish and get worse with each iteration.
***** Don't get me wrong, I love GTA, especially the gameplay. I just don't want rockstar to rest on their laurels and churn out GTA iterations just for the hype the name creates alone, we've seen it happen before and each time a dev did that the games got progressively worse/more disappointing. As for the story, yes GTA isn't all about the plot line, but with open world games it's often beneficial to have some context given to what you're doing. It's one of the reasons why Rockstar's Red Dead Redemption was so successful.
@@SpikeDawg45 The sad thing is in a way it's already heading down that path. They keep retelling GTA 3 story with slight variations here & their to make it seem new. It's like because 3 was such a hit they don't want it to end so they keep repeating themselves. Vice city=GTA 3 Miami edition, San Andras= GTA 3 Urban edition GTA 4= GTA 3 Foreign refugee edition & this one is GTA 5= GTA 3 LA edition.
my biggest problem with the game is the controls. The characters are so clunky. just walking across the street gives me a headache
It seems Rockstars idea of originality is when you don't know what to do after 15 years of alternating between the Reservoir Dogs, Sopranos, and every early 90's MTV gangsta rap cliche known to man is to, of course, throw them all into a single game and continue to essentially commit open robbery at the expense of every sub 100 IQ idiot on the planet who still thinks it's 19 fucking 94.
Most overrated series in the history of gaming.
I would love the angle of a rogue cop that is actually the bad guy that he is hunting down.
I liked gta V ...but I didn't love it. Like Razorfist said "Give me something to do with this character". Franklin had the potential to be my favorite character if he wasn't put as the 3rd wheel on the Rockstar bike. I wanted to see more of his life. Instead Lester gave him a house in the hills and the game was like "Ok...fuck Franklin! Now you're gonna watch Michael and Trevor play hot potato all game and Franklin will caaasualy come once in a while to say hi in a mission that requires 3 people".
I fucking love the Funk.
DJ Bootsy was the shit
MaximoMachismo Damn right bopper, that was maybe the only station I listened to, aside from Channel X, when certain songs were on.
Ryan Becker Mooooove over Rover, and let Bootsy Take over.
Loved the funk station, too, and the classic hip-hop station. I agree with Raz0rfist that there should have been at least one metal station, though.
The video was awesome, with the Russell Brand at the end bumping it to an 11.
right when i was running out of things to watch, thanks RazorFist!
TL;DR version: I haven't touched my 360 since I first played GTA5; it made me fall out of love with gaming just the same way Mass Effect 3 did.
I couldn't stand the first hour of gameplay, honestly. I mean, GTA IV was clunky, but at least the characters had some respectable motivation. The awful, self-pitying asshat that is Jimmy... he was just so unpleasant that his little tirade after the freeway yacht chase was enough to put me off the game for good. I tried booting up my 360 the next day, but I felt this deep apprehension hit me, like forcing myself to go out to a party full of people I knew I couldn't stand.
Rockstar crafted an ugly, soulless world full of ugly, soulless people, and the worst part is this: Rockstar takes their "satire" seriously, and acts like they're holding up a mirror to America and saying "this is you." I don't have to listen to that, I don't want to, and I won't.
yeah i've been debating on selling my gta5 game for awile since it's not even fun and such a chore to play now. I had a better time playing FarCry3 for another time than GTA5
sylentknyte Not what I meant. The game just felt... evil.
that serious satire has become GTA's thing. rockstar is calling the real world out for being fucking stupid, and they are doing a good job.
How odd, isn't denial the inmediate reaction when confronted with an ugly truth? Maybe you saw a little bit too much of yourself in Jimmy in that post car-chase speech.
You're so fucking melodramatic, your comment feels like something Stephenie Meyer would write.
I like Razorfist. I learn a new word every time I watch one of his videos.
This is why i am so thankful for the modding community. Imagine if mods didn't exist & we were stuck with all these bullshit decisions.
GTA IV's helicopters were perfect. I remember getting home from school on a Friday, grabbing some pizza and getting in with a bunch of friends with buzzards and fighting lobbies of pilots off at once. Flying a helicopter on GTA IV game took actual practice and skill. The mini gun had no cross hairs so you needed to be able to aim it with your eyes. I can't tell you how satisfying it was to shoot the KSA guy spamming missiles in a circle with 3 sprays and killing him before he even Knicks you. There was absolutely nothing wrong with GTA IV's helicopters if you didn't practice. To me helicopters are what made the game fun. Fuck this heat seeking nonsense, I want to shoot rocket pods and hit a target from 100 feet away. That's a hell of a lot more fun than aiming and waiting for a beep.
“I think Trevah is tha most important charactah evah!” - Bob OneMorePotatoChipman after not watching the video
Not sure if I was just younger and more easily amused by the earlier games, or if the jokes have gotten worse as of late.
Of all these dumb sandbox crime games I think Saints Row 2 was the most impressive. Mostly silly but with the odd heart-string-puller to keep you guessing.
Also the sleepwalker physics had the effect of sedating the characters during those horrendous cutscenes. Actually playing the game is like drunk driving.
80% of the channels were dedicated to hip hop, rap and obscure electronic music. Great if you want to get high in your low rider but if you're 95% of the population that doesn't care about that shit then you're fucked. Out of like 12 radio stations there was one for pop music (that's alright to crap imo) and 1 COUNTEM 1 station that had reliably good music on it.
Even if you don't like rock, you can't deny that there was pretty much no choice.
Vice city had the best soundtrack.
Helicopters aren't helicopters if they don't handle like shit. It shouldn't be easy.
They didn't give me any problems. Flying's a breeze in this game.
I don't know what the fuzz is about.
Helos always give me a problem in every game, and honestly I wouldn't have it any other way. I'm not an aviator and I prefer two wheels to two propellers.
Blakobness It's like every developer ever has specifically gone out of their way to make the Helicopters impossible to control with any sort of tightness. (Of course, there are exceptions. Probably.)
GTIV is where I first heard the Smashing Pumpkins and now (almost a decade later) they're my favorite band. I can't really agree 100% on the soundtrack given that, but I see what you mean.
That shout out to “Sleeping Dogs” at the beginning! Just another reason I like Razorfist! That game is one of the most slept on games from last generation. (Or PS3 I guess). And the music… that used to be one of the best parts of “GTA” games! “Vice City” is probably my favorite, but really any of them, excluding “GAT 5”, could be in the number one spot!
Thank you Razorfist the three major we both agree on about GTA 5. 1: They play it safe which am not surprise because of what happen in GTA 4. 2: They gave Franklin little to do in the game unless he was with his boy Lamar. 3: The music was lacking in this one, there only a few good songs in almost each genre, the ones I like in there where Eddie Murphy song, Geto Boys, and ect. I am person that likes all different types of music and I am a big fan of Rap/Hip-Hop but even I was like where is the Rock & Metal at ?
Speaking of Rap/Hip-Hop, how about West Coast Classics.
Two NWA songs, an Ice Cube song, and King Tee featuring Ice Cube and Breeze.
Two Dr. Dre songs, one featuring Snoop Dogg, the other featuring Snoop Dogg, Kurupt and Nate Dogg. Snoop Dogg has a song of his own. Kurupt has one on his own, one as Tha Dogg Pound (which features Snoop Dogg), and Mack 10 featuring Tha Dogg Pound.
Then there's a Compton's Most Wanted song, and a solo song by Mc Eiht.
Collaborations are huge in Rap, sure, but even when limited to the 90s west coast scene, there's enough to avoid so many overlaps.
Korgull6669 there should have been an east coast station like in san andreas, that or an underground hip hop station, there are tonnes of amazing hip hop acts from or based in the west coast, the whole of stones throw records pretty much (Madlib, Houseshoes, J Dilla later in his life was based in LA, the list goes on), there was potential for an astounding soundtrack here and it slumped like hell, Fly Lo FM, Channel X, and the Lowdown were pretty good though
Joseph Collins I agree
Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't there already a GTA game set in the mid 80's? Vice city? Okay, that's a crappy excuse if they can make more than one modern day GTA I think they can do another one set in the 80's.
fwwaller not just one but two and there was one game called gta San Andreas set in 1992 and Liberty city stories was set in 1998
I always wanted a GTA set in an O'Niell Cylinder set in the early stages of space colonization. It wouldn't go full "Saint's Row with the guns, it would keep it at a really hard Sc-fi tech level.
Having officially completed this game, I will whole heartedly agree with you on the music selection, it is BAD, but then again, it's a game with a contemporary setting, and a lot of contemporary music is pretty shitty, but GTA 4 had a similar setting but I still thought the music in THAT game was really kick ass. Not sure what you mean but I thought Franklin was an imperative part of the story and gameplay, his special driving ability was REALLY handy, and narrative wise he's a foil for Mike and trevor, he's a young ambitious criminal with his eyes on the prize while they're both middle aged, grumpy and have had their priorities screwed up. juxtaposition man. Also the whole "dark side of the american dream" theme is not really the main focus, it's mainly a character study of guys roped in the crime field who try to secure their own futures with whatever means they can, which to me is just as derivative as the whole "american dream" thing, we kind of saw that already in ballad of gay tony, vice city, etc. but I've become so connected to the characters that it didn't bother me that much. The whole american dream thing was explored vastly in GTA 4 and quite nearly perfectly I might add. As tacked on as the choice system kind of was in that game, it really made me genuinely think about the choices I've made and whether they were morally sound or not given the context of all that's happened, in my eyes, if a choice mechanic in a game elicits that type of thought from a player, than it's done right. Niko still remains the most likable and identifiable of all the protagonists in the series, we can all relate to having a horrible past event that no matter how hard we try, we just can't seem to escape from. I thought the game was very good, but man it takes TOO goddamn long for the wanted status to disappear.
The fact that a game allows you I customize to your favorite standard is great. The fact that the first impression of a game's standard and what it tells you to e through the story is something else. After all, if no customization exists then the game still needs to be good just on its basic gameplay, mission innovation, and other varieties that a player doesn't have to put hours in to finally make the game seem right!
I don't know why but I always come back to watch this review.
I will agree. Saints Row's helicopter controls feel like the holy grail of such compared to how GTA helicopters control.
I wish it had more situations like in GTA IV and DLC where the characters were indirectly referenced or you could effect the other characters story.
All the GTA games after San Andreas have longer and more pretentious cutscenes than Final Fantasy ever had.
Ur right, Franklin should of had a way deeper story and more things to do. Trevor was def for the frat boys.
Saints Row 2 still has my favourite metal station in all of gaming. Opeth, Mastodon, The Agony Scene, The Dillinger Escape Plan, As I Lay Dying, Lamb of God, 3 Inches of Blood, Chimaira, The Black Dahlia Murder, Trivium, even the Avenged Sevenfold song was catchy. GTA: The Lost and Damned had some really good metal too imo, the clubhouse would always play Call From The Grave by Bathory and it sounded fuckin awesome.
i have worked out how to make driving FUN AGAIN!
get a laptop, plug in some headphones put on whatever music you want and play the game from there!
The Argonian inebriate Or you just use the custom radio station feature.
Why couldn't GTA V have a similar soundtrack to the DLC on GTA IV. GTA IV had Bathory, Deicide (my favorite band), Cannibal Corpse, Terrorizer, At the Gates, etc.
It would win me back if they made vice city what happened after the end credits rolled, with a extension to the story of Tommy versetti.
I'd pre-order an open-world Cobra as fast as an Irish bartender says last call.
five years and I still can't make a 70's hardtail chopper.
Excellent review man. That Cobra game idea would be excellent, hell game companies already going after nostalgia sales. Rockstar might as well do one since they aren't doing anything else worthwhile.
Yeah the linearity in this game is just disgusting, you pretty much nailed this one
Recently found in GTA V, a poster for GTA VI... we're going back to Vice City. My only hope is that they bring it up to the 1990's, give you more of a non-linear narrative, and have a soundtrack to match, because if not... then the game will suck harder than a hoover in the middle of a black hole.
Ah you hatin' on my funk station?!?!
Alright then bruh...
Amen! I have been fantasizing about a GTA rogue cop game since GTA3. The one decent guy in a world of law enforcement agency incompetence who takes down the gangs and the corrupt cops and takes the mayor's secretary to dinner after all the bad guys are dead and her boss has been arrested.
Make it a parody of 80s and 90s action flicks, fix the soundtrack and is that just hot stuff or what?!
Best GTA V review I've seen!
Which Tangerine Dream score is your favorite, Mr. Razorfist? Mines a tie between Firestarter(used to own the vinyl) and Miracle Mile(CD)
I like the game, but I do agree with you. Franklin needed something to do.
I agree with the radiostations sucks I cant have custom soundtrack since I have the PS3 version but overall it was my 2013 game of the year for me. I did more things here and so much areas to explore compare to GTA4 plus it finally brought back the mini gun from GTA Vice city back
Glad you mentioned the helicopter controls. I don't want to go back to the amount of swearing that came out of my mouth when I had to practice riding one as Michael.
Ugh.
And to be honest, I got a little tired of the soundtrack after playing GTA Online. And let's not talk about the online.
Dammit, I want to play the ideas that Razor came up with for a GTA game or hell any fucking open-world game for that matter.
I'm still playing this game
And here we are in 2020 still waiting for the fucking next one
2023.
Great Review as always Razorfist, are you going to do a Retrospective for the GTA franchise? Oh and there is no such thing as being over-obsessed with Queen ;P
It would've been awesome the devs put in a custom soundtrack option.
If you could make your own radio stations... I'd be soooooo happy.
I can't tell if Razorfist likes Breaking Bad or not.
A gilded cage is still a cage, Rockstar. (Just ask Elizabeth from Bioshock.)
Los Santos Rock Radio FTW!
2020 it's still GTA V
Agree with your sentiment on the music. Hence why I only listen to Rebel Radio (not as memorable as KRose tbh but still decent).
Who would have thought the guys responsible for, not one, but TWO Manhunt games could play it so safe?...
The 2 things I hate the most in this game is the Wanted Level system and the piece of shit online that Rockstar keeps spewing DLC fucking towards instead of a actual fucking single player story DLC that they will never give us. At least Red Dead Redemption had some decent amount of Multiplayer DLC but at least it had a single player DLC in the form of Zombies where still to this day is one of the best DLC expansions in video games of this decade so far but we are given fuck all still to this day for GTA 5 cause all they give a shit about is the godawful online that Red Dead Redemption is still miles ahead better than it.
yall need to hear this @ Rockstar / Take Two ...
Where's that footage from the end from?
I've put a horrendous amount of hours into GTA, but mostly in the online. The lack of real damage and wonky physics with cars has given me hours of throwing expensive supercars at various obstacles. Say what you want about realism, but there's something to be said for driving a Turismo off the mountain, flipping it 3 times, and landing wheels down just before plowing straight into a rock
You've never heard of a funk radio station because most of them disappeared in the early 1980's.
GTA 2 was the most creative the series ever got. Prove me wrong
There was little story in that game from what I've heard...
+Charles Banks In terms of story it was simple and to the point, but it was an installment in the series where they seemed to be the most experimental
oneprizeonegoal That's sad.
Can some well-read meme enthusiast tell me what that indistinct grumbling of that dude in 7:02 right after Monty Python is from? It sounds like the hangover morning gripes of a pissed off Sim.
Los Santos rock radio was classic rock while radio x was punk I forgot about the 3rd rock station but you get my point
I didn't like how you were given a fast car and a mansion straight away. GTA is supposed to be a rags to riches story.
"Grand Theft Auto is back!"
I disagree. Where's my jetpack? Where are my gang wars or other acquisition of territory? Where are the fucking emergency vehicle missions (ambulance, fire truck, etc.)? Or demolition derby, or tons of buyable safe houses? GTA 5 sucked, dude, I'm surprised to find you saying otherwise. Also, you're applauding the pussification (R.I.P, George Carlin) of the driving in GTA games. That you could actually destroy your car if you weren't careful (i.e., skilled) enough in the older GTA games was a *good* thing. That you can magically flip your car back onto its wheels in GTA 5 is not. I mean seriously, for all the hard rock HELL YEAH LET'S FUCK LIFE IN THE ASS image you put forth, having to scramble out of your car just before it explodes was *exciting* and you should be missing that.
+Vic 2.0 I think the problem is that he's comparing it with GTA 4 in these respects, in which case it's a step in the right direction as 5 is generally closer to it's other predecessors than 4 ever was. As for the driving, I think the problem was that the physics were too batshit crazy in GTA 4 and too tame in GTA 5.
Lee Moffat I think you're right.
Tytee Tagor I think if you read my comment without any bias, you'll realize that at no point do I say "I like GTA: San Andreas more because it's older/old school" or anything like that. I give very practical reasons for preferring one over the other. If GTA: San Andreas *didn't* have a jetpack, gang wars, emergency vehicle missions, demolition derby and more buyable safehouses but GTA 5 *did,* I'd be saying something different.
As for canceling GTA as a series, I'd be fine with it! But not because I don't know what I want; rather, because I *do* know, and it isn't all this imagery over substance crap! I'm playing games like Just Cause 2 and Sleeping Dogs now. I've grown tired of GTA because it's just plain boring by comparison. And yes, the epitome of that suckiness is GTA 5.
I was really disappointed by the plot of 5, mainly because it felt as if there wasn;t one. I mean in IV at the very least there was a set goal for Nico and a clear antagonist that was in some way a threat. In 5 though it was like they kept throwing random plot bricks into a washing machine to see which ones weren't spat straight out again. It was just a random series of events cobbled together while our three heroes meandered about and tried to figure out what to do until the game threw its hands up and said *"Fuck it"* before adding *"Go kill that Chinese guy, the FBI asshole and the douchebag who owns the PMC. Just do it."*
Channel X has well selected Cali-based punk music. Pitchfork-core has it's fair share too. I get the Phil Collins rant though.
I really like the funk station though.
I miss Vice City and San Andreas
Now I really want an open world sandbox Cobra game, shit.
Nailed it, I had this empty feeling after completing the game and didn't really know what to make of it but this video has filled the gaps, and still has me longing for the day until I play a GTA game that tops San Andreas, fun story, great amount of variety for its time, very likable characters, amazing setting and soundtrack and the comedy aspects were top notch. Also, fuck Trevor, he's overrated and his act gets tiring really fucking fast... By the end of it I was relieved to not hear anymore of Trevor's shenanigans and constant complaining, he left such a bad taste in my mouth that not even a jar full of fermented Vegemite mixed in with Jenkem leftovers could overpower it. God fucking speed bruh.
2:47 thought that would be Sopranos 😂
3:50 YES! FUCKING ROCKSTAR ARE STUCK IN THE 80's IN REGARDS TO MUSIC.
Yes, the world does need another rogue cop open-world game lest that sub-genre's defining game be NARC for the PS2 *shudder*
to u wat was the best gta
I think Razorfist would be a big fan of Self Radio on the PC version.
This was good.
I'll take it you enjoyed The Naked Gun.
how exactly did you make michael look like michael dougles from black rain? i've been looking everywhere