WE ARE DYING IN THE CORNERS!! THIS COULD SAVE YOUR LIFE! MOTORCYCLE TRAIL BRAKING EXPLAINED
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Running wide, losing front tire grip, crossing the centerline, all of these things can cause a deadly accident on a motorcycle. Learning how to properly trail brake could save your life. Watch as Motorcycle Racer/ Instructor/ Writer Nick Ienatsch, King of the Baggers Champion Kyle Wyman, Harley-Davidson Factory Rider Travis Wyman, Motorcycle Racer/ Instructor Cody Wyman, and Harley-Davidson's Design Engineer Bjorn Christensen explains how and why you should be trail braking on your motorcycle.
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common sense would have a rider go by “feel” - not saying this is not good advice or session- I have done most of my braking before the curve but I am sure I am smoothly letting off it in the curve and then accelerating through- a lot of riding comes down to instinctive feel. I don’t race tho- I ride to relax so I am not out to try to out ride my abilities or situation. Good video content, Tall.
Yup 👍🏾
Too bad you were not around 'nasty' Nick back in 1990 at Motorcyclist Magazine. He took a box stock FZR1000 up against a ZR1 Corvette at Willow Springs. Someone forgot to tell him the 'Vette was 'supposed' to win! Haha! Seriously, he knows his stuff. Great respect for his abilities and even more, the ability to convey that knowledge to others. I've learned from him as well. Great stuff, Tall! Keep it up. Appreciate it.
Great video Tall. Love your instructional videos. I have been riding for over 30 years. As riders we can always learn something no matter how long you've been riding. Your always taking your videos content to the next level.
If you're not learning, you're stagnating! Even relearning, drilling, practising a basic skill is learning. And we as riders need to stay on top of that learning.
I am aggressive trail braking and coming out of the corner. Stability control gives me more confidence. I have taken BMW M courses in cars. It’s amazing how stability control works. We race with it off and on. Big difference.
Good information.
A lot of people don't understand the physics of how the bikes work, how the tires work, brakes, etc.
Really great explanations for trail braking in a way that I can finally wrap my head around. Thank you very much for taking and sharing this footage!! And most importantly to Harley Davidson's team for being willing to let the camera in while they presented it!!!
I really liked all of the video thank you I’m watching twice. Then again tomorrow!
Started my HD rider course yesterday at Alligator Alley HD and this morning I have more valuable info to help me become a safer rider. Thank You Tall for ALL your videos helping and encouraging beginners like me, It's all coming together. Faith, Patience, Obedience!
Extremely informative. I've been riding for over fifty years and was not aware of most of what these guys were talking about. I'll be practicing trail braking for now on. You are right, this could very well save someone's life. Thanks Tall.
I learned trail braking on circuit training classes when I rode my sport bike. I loved circuit track riding. The best experiences ever. The safety lessons you take back to the streets and practice them daily.
I'm a transplant from Bridgeport Connecticut... Living in Glendale Arizona. Almost 80 years old... Been riding motorcycles on and off for decades. I notice most Riders ride at a Speed that's probably beyond their ability in the First Place... 'Nuff said!!!...
Nice video. A lot of info to take in. We all be taught to never grab front brake in a corner. It all makes sense the way they explain it. Pressure equals traction up to a point. More lean less brake or throttle,less lean more brake or throttle. Thank you for this. May save a life on the road.
Great info and it is definitely the opposite of what I was thought back in the 90's when I started riding
Look, Lean, and Roll was taught for SO LONG!!!! It was always a badge of honor to not hit brakes...LOL....and now its all flipped on its head and suddenly "Smooth is fast, Fast is Smooth" is back to the forefront
Great video, this is a habit I brought over from dirt bikes, and I never let it go. It felt weird just hoping for the best in corners.
Solid info! Have a Blessed Day as well!
Tall, I took the class from Nick and crew back in December. Included us practicing on a track, exactly like how you experienced. So, so, so worth every penny for this course! Wealth of knowledge. Thank you for sharing and getting the word out!
Brilliantly done! Need to get back on the Online Champ school programme after this 👍
One of the best riding classes I’ve seen in 20 years
This was a very informative lesson on trail braking and couldn’t be explained any better. Thanks for going to the trouble of making this Tall!
I like how they explained trail breaking. It made a lot of sense.
Hi Tall, Have looked at numerous videos on trail braking which were OK... This is by far the best video I have seen on this subject. You had experts in the room from professional riders to the actual engineers telling us "this is how I designed the bike to be ridden". Doesn't get much better than this. I'll recommend this to my friends. Keep them coming!
Cornering abs on the Pan America as well as linked braking is awesome.
Something about grabbing any front brake leading into then partially through turns feels so unnatural to me and have always used back brakes instead. Riding a TC 88 Dyna and on a very windy road in the mountains West of Roanoke once, decided to go deep and flick at every corner for miles and did so without any problems. And I was pushing it (for me anyway), at least 10-15 over posted through every one. Have used fronts a few times after going in too fast for correction. Maybe I need an advanced class. Thanks for the video!
This vid was truly an vital part of 'riding' that I venture a guess, a large percentage of riders never learned before. Thanks for putting it out here for us, for our well being. Good stuff.
Great video Tall. I have been riding since 7 years old, I'm 54 now. I learned a great deal from this thanks so much
Great video for trailbraking and these guys know their stuff. Nick has been around for a long time (respect). 👍 Ive been a daily MC rider since late 80s on all kinda bikes and he has been in the picture .
We can agree to disagree on failure to trailbrake as a major cause of road runoffs on MCs. IMHO its always been either target fixation issues or failure to countersteer for riders going off road.... They either fail to look where they need to go or they come in too hot, grab brakes hard (which makes it stand up) and fail to countersteer through. Ive seen it way too much for them to change my mind on the topic, sorry. I was always told head and eyes look where you wanna go. Countersteer the bike, be smooth and trust your tires when you come in hot.
I totally agree trailbraking works, I use it myself trackdays and street.... BUT its not something alot of folks can pick up safely ON THE STREET and still believe the safest way on a 800 + lbs, low clearance MC HD, safest is "slow in & fast out" for the majority of folks.... Friction is friction and playing with brakes and turns in the rain, on a usually oily street roadway, Ill pass on that lowside thanks.
Appreciate your take. I took a riding class decades ago and was told to always use both brakes, but they said too not to grab too much front while turning or you will lowside, just like you mentioned. So Had no idea trail braking using the front was even a thing before I started to mess with it on windy mountain roads after coming in too hot a few times. Just felt so unnatural to me and I have always used the back instead to trail brake. If using the back brake through turns can be considered as trail braking?
I attended a couple H-D "Back to the Track" classes back in 2004 and 2008 in Vegas and Nick was the lead instructor. His hair wasn't gray back then, lol. It was at LV Motor Speedway. We had classroom and track experience. It was the best two trips to vegas I ever had. I shared the track with Nick, Jason Disalvo, Tripp Nobles, Jeff Haney and others. I probably learned more in those two weeks than the prior 20+ years of riding.
This is why life long learning is so important. The second you think you know everything you can exceed your limits and reach a catastrophic end. Never be afraid to practice your skills and learn new ones.
Really enjoyed this one Tall! Thanks for bringing this. Preciate You! Yes and that's Appreciate without the A.
thank you . . . couldn’t stop watching.
You guys are the best thank you for this info you guys are literally saving lives!
Thank you for the Video!! this has soo much great information! APPRECIATE THE CONTENT!
It takes practice and confidence to trail brake pulling the front wheel brake lever, it's a gradual soft pull, that is the key to loading that first wheel for better grip. Nice video 👍🏽
Sold info. Thanks for sharing
Thanks for watching
it sounds and feels like a corporate style meeting.
Yaddaimeen
Thanks for video tall
*Pure gold!* Many thanks Tall.
Hey Tall, as a fellow cruiser rider, if I'm coming into a decreasing radius turn.... say a hairpin.... I ease in the brake and roll off the throttle and keep the brake-amount constant ..... then as I see the exit, release the brake and resume posted speed, ( I can't say 20 or 30% here, as I do it by rote),same as you do in a car. Great Video .... Do more with those guys for corner finesse. etc. Stay Safe
Tall, you probably saved a few lives with this video.
Thanks for sharing Tall! This does makes a lot of sense but I wouldn’t have guessed that they actually design them to be rode that way.
Hey Tall awesome video on trail braking I learned alot I am gonna start practicing this to hopefully become a better rider as always excellent work
That is why stability control with IMu cornering abs and cornering Tc come standard on all European premium motorcycle manufacturers. Stability control optional on Harley(RDRS) touring standard Pan America and Sportster S. Should be standard on all Harley’s. Stability control mandated in cars 2012. Trail braking is super important but nice to have safety nets like stability control
Great Tall . This was very interesting Things I never thought about???
I have been practicing trail braking for years. Good info. Tony
Interesting... a few years ago I cheater certain death from not braking. I was going way too fast around a long hiway curve on my 2010 Dyna. As I realized I couldn't make the curve at my speed, I started a speed wobble and hit the should gravel. I was headed for the guard rails and just accepted I was a Gonner. So I gave the bike full throttle and it corrected its self and allowed me to get back in control on pavement. The semi driver I had just passed saw the entire thing and went by, open mouthed with thumbs up ! Hitting the brakes at any point would have killed me
I have always let off before the curve and accelerated through. I have been doing that for 46 years and have never gone down in a curve. and I am not slow and easy in curves.
Wow, great video. Thanks for posting the training session. It makes sense and learning from the experts is great. I noticed I would do this trail braking when I have been too fast in a curve or it sharpens on me unexpectedly and I was worried I was handling it wrong. But it’s good to hear the bike and tires are designed to work that way. You provided us a great service by posting this information. Thank you.
Blessed day to you too TT.
One would think grabbing the front is going to cause you to dip, but utilizing the dip for that reason seems odd…is this all about getting the maximum speed in turn? My mindset has always been to control my speed or basically slow behind down….while I’m in that turn. Just my thoughts, but educate me…good information Tall!👊🏾
THANKS A MILLION TALL !
I will be thinking ahead of those turns/curves now and thinking of this video.
THANKS FOR SHARING !!!
Great informative video ❤
thank you for sharing this informational video I have learned more then i knew in my 10 years plus riding !!!
Commenting for the algorithm. Love the content!
I guess most riders don't lean enough for fear in scrapping their foot pegs. If l feel l going too Fast in initial corner, l grab the clutch and brake a little more rear brake to slow the bike down and finally downshift and go!
Educational Tall, I’m going to rewatch it
I know you were having a blast learning the corners. Hope to see you in Daytona
Priceless information Tall. I’m going to start practicing this and implement it into my every day riding. Thanks for sharing this valuable information.
Great info Tall! Thanks for sharing and caring! Will definitely take heed to this information.
Excellent video . Lot of good advice from guys at the top of their game 👍🏻
I've been trail braking for a few years and seem to be getting better and better at it. A month ago i was in a big easy turn riding a new to me bike . A pickup truck in front of me slammed on his brakes to make a last minute right hand turn. Maybe I wasn't in the moment as far as planning my escape route. The problem was, he didn't signal so I had no idea what he was doing. I couldn't even see the street he wanted to turn on. We were in a left curve and he wanted to make a right which would have presented me with obvious choices, if he had signaled and positioned his truck for the turn. My reaction, since I was already trail braking, was to squeeze a little more. The bikes reaction was to violently slam me to the ground. Then as I was tumbling in the street I watched my bike stand itself up and cross the oncoming lane, hit a mailbox, jump a curb and bury itself in the mud. Amazingly, the bike and I escaped with minor damage. I guess i should have gone for the rear brake or downshifted. I didn't think that I panic braked, but I guess the results prove me guilty of that, as well as not being ready to act.
This info is pure GOLD!! I’m ready to fire up my road glide now and put this to pavement 🤙🏾
Awesome video with awesome info. Nick was always a must read in the moto mags back in the day. Good stuff!
Definitely great advice even for veteran riders. Thanks guys.
Tall, appears that you were not allowed to put a link in the description to Champions Riding School, those guys are the best.
Thanks for sharing, very very informative. Looking forward to the second part of this video.
That’s awesome advice, I’d like to see more videos from you like this these guys are professionals.
This was a huge help thank you
Sounds Ike an amazing event to be a part of! Thank you for sharing your experience,and thank you to all the experts who shared thier knowledge. I really like how everyone made the instruction easy to understand. Honestly pretty jealous lol. I wish I could have been there. Ride safe!
Very informative video, thanks for sharing... looking forward to part 2
Good stuff! Thanks Tall
This was awesome! Thanks for sharing all this knowledge!!!
Lol too late! I already zoomed in on the Road King!!😍😂😂😂
Good advice folks
Thanks Tall👍
This is definitely good knowledge, because these guys are professionals and engineers. At the same time, doesn't it apply mostly to the track, vs every day street riding? Even the rules change when you're racing on the street vs racing on the track.
Not at all. The same exact technique that allows racers to go extremely fast on the track with success are the same techniques that allow them (all of us) to be safe on the street. The bike has no idea if it's Kyle Wyman winning the bagger championship or you out for a Sunday ride. It was designed to take the same inputs in either scenario.
Harley limited lean angle can get you in trouble. Know your lean angles of your bike
I don't ride...yet...but this was an interesting video, great info.
Awesome information.
May i suggest that the guys struggling to explain not so difficult topic watch Motojitsu videos. Short to the point thought out message. It should help you with the chaos
Very Helpful!
Love this info, going to change my way of riding
Excellent
Counter steering is what a lot of motorcycle riders have no clue about That's why somebody riders die in the corners. They think they can muscle the handlebars like it's a steering wheel in a car when in actuality it's the exact opposite. it's called counter stearing.
Harley in the parachute sitting position not good for cornering with weight off front wheel vs aggressive seating like super naked bikes or sport bikes
This was some great stuff!!!!
Very interesting!
These are the guys from Yamaha Champions Riding School. This is the same stuff they teach in their online courses. I bought their ChampU online school last year for 100$
It's well worth it because its unlimited access and you can take the courses over and over again and rewatch the videos as much as you'd like.
This was awesome. Really appreciate it.
Great video!
Great video
Outstanding information.. Thank you!!
The real problem is that most people try to ride WAY ABOVE their skill level.
Not to mention that since the late Eighties, most HDs and other "cruiser" style bikes have the absolute worst seating position and too-tall bars, for the sake of looking what's considered "cool" by modern opinion.
No one realizes how important having ones knees below hip level and ones hands at or below chest height are... Those things, and the fact that a lot of folks who've never even ridden a bicycle just hopping on a 900 pound, 130 horsepower chunk of steel just ain't a great idea.
excellent video 👍👍👍👍🇦🇺
Excellent, great advice. ✌❤🙏
If the designers and engineers are building them this way and this is the best/safest way to break WHY???? DOES THE MSF KEEP TEACHING THE OLD WAY!?!? I asked about trail breaking in my MSF class and you would have thought I said a swear word in the CHURCH with the reaction I got. Why wouldnt they teach the best techniques!!
Outstanding !
Harley’s lounge chair position vs super naked position
Hey carnal cómo estás espero y te encuentres bien con tu gran familia cuídate y ve con dios
Thank you so much for all the kind words Tall! - If any of your viewers would like to know more about what we teach we have a complete online curriculum at ridelikeachampion.com/courses-page/
Thanks! Nick Ienatsch
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