As a professional musician and soundtrack composer, i can say that anyone complaining about the music in this documentary is just incredibly musically ignorant and totally uneducated and unaware of how soundtracks were made for anything in these days. It's a perfectly suitable and time period correct soundtrack, and it adds to the charm and feel of this very old and very informative documentary. In fact, i would say the soundtrack is very good. Recording an actual orchestra to fit the scenes is literally one of the hardest things to do, and anyone watching this in the day it was created would expect this sort of music. Enjoy it. it's like a time capsule and better than you could possibly imagine.
I have to give credit to these scientists for taking on such an arduous journey to find the point of impact.Siberia is a huge country(you can fit Canada within the borders of Siberia and still have room left over) and much of the landscape is just about impassable by conventional means.And if that isn’t hard enough,the mosquitoes and various fly species will eat you alive in summer months.Winter is downright freezing with temps bordering on minus 50 Fahrenheit.I first learned of this event as a teenager 40 some years ago.Thanks for the upload.
Most of the information found online for the past few decades has mostly been hyperbole and wild speculation about what happened in Tunguska. This miraculous documentary tells the complete scientific history of the event and how it was studied, in clear detailed terms. Thanks for posting. I once had an eight ounce individual piece of the Sikhote Alin meteorite, which I regrettably sold ten years ago. It was not “shrapnel” and had the best features possible.
Yes - and I believe that has become the norm in most "documentaries" today. They are little more than flash, cutscenes, dramatic swinging around of the camera on people/places and lots and lots of "DUN DUN DUNNNNN" hyperbole thrown in to try and keep your attention. They've gone the way of reality TV, sadly. I'm glad that ones such as this exist, in which you can be given the facts as they were known, and can enjoy them.
Half way through this video and I must comment on the quality , specifically the mixing of the sound . The music does not drown out the voice as so many documentaries do now . Content appears top notch also .
What struck me most is how remarkably advanced the research was from technological point of view. Even so long ago it was still very, very advanced. I just find is captivating.
One day I came across a term that I had never seen before; "presentism." Among its different meanings were two that made a lot more sense out of why so many seem to dismiss the knowledge/abilities of people in times past; A bias toward present-day attitudes and the tendency to interpret the past through present day perspectives and ideas. I believe that it tends to make people think that we are remarkably advanced and anything before our time were little more than ignorant savages who were too stupid to know much beyond "fire burns you" and "you need air to breathe." Like you, I was impressed at the level of knowledge, and glad, too.
Your Right ! They Had to Carry and Stretch Out A Long Rope With A Knot tied in it every 12 inches To Get as Many Fathoms of Ground Miles Horizontally To attempt to even Figure out The length Surrounding around The Explosion Zone !!! That’s Many Many Tons of Firewood or Housing Material That Just Laid Out In The Middle Of Hell on Earth To Just Rot Away !!! Maybe I Just Hate Wasting Material When So Many could have Benefited From These Destroyed Trees !!! I Live in a country setting where highways are being constantly Built and Nobody can Harvest The Billions of Trees That Are Destroyed for Pollution Highways Due To The Fact That The Utility Companies Ain’t going to Allow Such ,,So They Can Charge Every Human To Survive The Winters !!! I’m Speaking of Whole Strips of Forest Being Bulldozed Away and No Effort To Make Lumber or Firewood To The Public Even at a Reduced Price !!! Such a Waste and Lost of Animal Habitat That Never Ends !!!
This documentary describes the very high quality of Soviet science, at least in this relatively non-ideological field. It is interesting and somewhat surprising that the Smithsonian Institution translated this Soviet documentary and made it accessible to western audiences in the midst of the Cold War
That film was not widely accessible in USSR. I was always interested about what happened in Tunguska since my childhood, was reading all about it and if it was shown in our movie theaters I would know it. Majority of documentaries in USSR were shot and placed in archives, That one probably was shown on some scientific conference that is how Smithsonian got it but not to the wide soviet audience.
What a cool documentary. Further indication that each generation should not assume it has cornered the market on accomplishment just because technological prowess has increased.
very interesting video. Some of the documentary footage was later used in Carl Sagan's Cosmos episode "Heaven and Hell" where the Tunguska event was discussed
I first learned of this event as a teen in the '60s, this video makes me appreciate the massive effort that went into the investigation, thanks so much for posting.
Beautiful documentary! I own a small piece of the Sikhote Alin meteorite, it doesn't have any jagged edges, showing that it was still travelling at extreme speeds after becoming separated from its parent body. Its crust has a very dark metal look and is slightly weathered (rusty). It weighs about 20 grams.
Probably the best place this could have taken place! This is a great video on the topic... I'm surprised it doesn't have more views.. Thanks for sharing this!
This video was up for quite some time, but only just started gaining traction. I think RUclips randomly started suggesting it to people about a month ago, but couldn't tell you what changed or why.
@@MeteoriteGallery I can support that, even as a person who enjoys documentaries (not "real TV disguised as documentaries") but also scientific subjects; this is quite literally the first I've seen it or known of your channel. I am VERY glad I found both of them!
Yep. When the no-see-ems are so numerous that the clouds of them, coming to carry you away, simple bug juice doesn’t even hint at helping. If possible, worse than the ones in the Yukon.
Can't imagine what these folks dealt with. Did some field mapping out in Montana and the mosquitoes out there would make a cloud around you and somehow get you through 2-3 layers. A few dozen would follow you into a car, didn't matter how quickly you jumped in. I luckily didn't react much, but one of the girls was a walking welt by the end of it. It only gets worse further N. Reindeer and moose hides from areas like Tunguska are usually peppered with holes from bot flies...
LOVE old documentaries even if the “ expert science” is limited or inaccurate or incomplete or false. Kinda like now I guess lol but with no allusions to wormholes, aliens, black magic, secret military weaponry or modern political propaganda. Love the soundtrack AND narration.Nice post! Merci!
I agree. However, I find that the older studies are superior in accuracy for the very reasons you mention. I read a lot of older (pre-1990) journal articles and studies when I want to research a current 'calamity' in the world and have yet to find a current topic of sudden interest that has not already been thoroughly studied, documented, published, and is almost always prescient.
Very interesting. I operated our company's Electron Beam Microprobe and Scanning Electron Electron Microprobe for 30 years. I wish that I had been able to obtain some of that material.
The particles collected during the Stardust mission are probably pretty similar stuff - if you're curious, would check out Brownlee's paper "The Stardust Mission: Analyzing Samples from the Edge of the Solar System." Access it for free via sci-hub.
@@MeteoriteGallery I've been retired for 30 years now so I don't have access to the instrument. We were supposed to get a piece of "moon" rock too, but MIT got them. That was a long time ago though.
I wonder for how long the Smithsonian had this film as it was recently presented here probably for the first time to the world. Thank you very much for posting this. I would have never seen it otherwise. It's amazing the effort and the years behind all of the research about Tunguska. How fortunate it occured in a remote area. It seems they found no human remains or even remains of animals that might have perished. I thought they found particles embedded in the trunks of the trees. Also I thought a local man collected quite large pieces of the meteor, yet maybe they doubted it. was actually from the asteroid or meteor. I thought it was determined to be an asteroid. It's also remarkable when that meteor hit about in 2013 or so and if there might be a pattern of meteors striking in Siberia. Some long ago blamed Nikola Tesla and his lab on Long Island New York that he was trying to create wireless transmission of electricity to electrify the world instead of using power lines.
No. Tesla was smart, but at That Time...would have been impossible for a cause and effect, so many miles apart. From New York to Mid Siberia...all the way over there, no way. Mr Tesla was not God.
From what I can tell, they had the film on file for at least 50 years. The notes my advisor had with it said that they weren't sure about how to deal with potential copyright issues - or how to release it if they did. To be fair, to release something like this in any way, they'd probably need to hire copyright attorneys, license it, agree to some kind of asset split or who knows what, and...it's probably easier and cheaper for the Smithsonian to put out something completely new. I figured I'd try it and see if it got taken down. RUclips said it was okay 😬
@dannycolorado5875 You are 100% correct en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Wireless_System#Feasibility @mwj5368 Burned trees were found at Tunguska. One weird study from back in 2007 claimed to have found metallic particles embedded in fossilized animal bones and tusks from the late Pleistocene in Alaska, but...to be frank, the author and handful of scientists that are pushing the Younger Dryas Impact Theory have published a number of now 100% refuted claims and studies to try to justify their theory, and it is completely bogus: www.nytimes.com/2024/03/05/magazine/younger-dryas-impact-hypothesis-comet.html
I was experimenting with some facial-topiary at the weekend but hadn't decided on a name for my new look! Now, thanks to this documentary I have named my beard... the 'Soviet scientist!' Thank you 🇬🇧🏆🇷🇺
Would love to see a modern, rather more sensitive micro analysis for iridium and other (less common earth side) elemental compositions of those spherules?
There are many modern studies, but most haven't been able to draw strong conclusions from the observed spherules. There seems to be general agreement that there are slightly more spherules in the 1908 peat layers, but I don't see any solid studies that pin the impactor's identity. As far as I can tell, they generally haven't been able to isolate spherules that are certainly from the 1908 event. Some carbon-isotope studies have suggested that there are elevated non-radiogenic levels of carbon in the 1908 peat layers, consistent with a carbonaceous chondrite or cometary impactor, but I was not personally convinced by the data: scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=tunguska+spherules+isotopes&btnG= For example, one of the top hits there found diamond and lonsdaleite and noted that those minerals have been found in diamond-bearing irons -- but we know that the Tunguska impactor was something soft like a rubble pile asteroid or friable carbonaceous chondrite - not an iron. So...there must be another source for the high-pressure carbon polymorphs.
@@sonnylambert4893 uhh thats just an expression. I don't even believe in any "god" I just think the choice of music really doesn't suit this documentary.
It's a documentary about the most powerful meteorite strike in human history and they put ridiculous silly music instead of something more sombre. Its not the right tone to set. We could be struck by another one that size at any time. Thats my point.
Tried to look that up, but couldn't find any references. Regardless - shouldn't have been related to this - this was a very small body about 50-60 m across, negligible gravity compared to the Moon.
Que documentário incrível!! Sempre achei q foi algo ufológico que caiu na terra, mas ainda acredito que "guardiões"destruíram o cometa salvando a terra! Like e inscrito do Brasil❤
This wasn't really that big of an event. This was a 50-60 meter asteroid - even if you turned 100% of it into dust and put it into the upper atmosphere, it wouldn't have lasting effects. The explosion did put some dust into the upper atmosphere, but far less than many volcanic eruptions from the past few decades.
These people are absolute geniuses and should not be looked down upon..Russia is an amazing place! They had sisemagraphs in 1906!?!? That's crazy to think of the technology a hundred and some years ago..
Actually, according to "The Ringing Cedars of Russia" books about a wild natural woman who lived alone in the Taiga, her great Grandfather was a powerful Vedic Russ who vaporized the comet above the Earth so that it would not cause an extinction level event. The old wizard lived through it although he was totally blind afterward.
It never strucked earth. It exploded above earth surface as a result of friction,temparature and pressure inside the meteoor. A nuclear like explosion as a result of all that. There was no crater and the way threes were destroyed and laying on the ground and more facts show the explosion on considerable hight. Fragments however did smashed and landed on the earth surface.
It's a good thing the comet/meteorite did not fall upon a city or a heavily populated area!! Interesting a theory of a massive collection of cosmic dust, therefor no meteorite fragments..
Tall-El Hammam Meteorite Airburst in Jordan, north of the Dead Sea, several thousand years ago. SEE: A Tunguska sized airburst destroyed Tall el-Hammam a Middle Bronze Age city in the Jordan Valley near the Dead Sea. (It's a peer review article written in a "Scientific Journal")
That article was based on faked observations and poor scientific methods, and has been discredited. www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-08216-x retractionwatch.com/2021/10/01/criticism-engulfs-paper-claiming-an-asteroid-destroyed-biblical-sodom-and-gomorrah/ skepticalinquirer.org/2021/12/sodom-meteor-strike-claims-should-be-taken-with-a-pillar-of-salt/
@@MeteoriteGalleryyeah there r some bizarre theories that’s for sure but as you know the science points towards comet/meteorite. I leans towards the ‘comet’ theory
@@NicholasPorter-p8i Cometary is definitely possible, but I don't think I'd make such concrete statements. There's no hard line between objects like D-class asteroids and comets, so I'd hesitate before saying it was a comet versus something like a friable CI-chondrite like asteroid or even an object similar to 2008 TC3 - just larger. It's very possible that recoverable meteorites fell. It took 13 years for the first expeditions to arrive - if the object was something like a CI chondrite, any meteorites that survived to reach the ground would have turned to mud within, at most, a few months. If they were a more durable type...it's still possible that they're there to be found, but haven't been recovered yet. The dynamics of the explosion are still very much a subject of ongoing work, and modeling a potential strewnfield for an event like this, even today, is educated guesswork. NASA's models for the Muskogee, Oklahoma, fall just a few years ago were off by several miles. If you look in the wrong spot, you have no chance of finding anything... Even with good intel, hunting for a decades-old fall in a literal swamp would be extremely challenging, and finding any fragments would be remarkably lucky. I'm not convinced either way.
@@prevost8686 An icy meteorite would be a comet by definition. The trouble is that small objects in the Solar System aren't just all rock or all ice - there's a gradient. Active comets tend to be very icy, but many asteroids look like comets that have gotten trapped in the warm inner Solar System and have lost most of their water / ice. But they're still very soft and would act similarly when coming into the atmosphere. Based on how the Tunguska object ~exploded, we know it was friable, but that's all I'd say we know for certain. It could have been cometary / icy. It could also have just been a soft/wet asteroid, like a CI1 chondrite.
They had seismometers in 1908?? Nationalistic music for each nationality of scientists! "Men of Harlech" for the British? I have never heard of the Drake Strait before.
Or people who do have content that indicate they are either lunatics or dyed in the wool conspiracy theorists that probably believe we're all lizard man aliens. Best to just ignore them and go on - reason won't work with them any more than it does the insanely politically partisan.
The video was originally digitized by David Kring (currently at LPI-JSC) and a copy was sent to John Wasson at UCLA. I found it among John's effects after he passed away. From what I was able to find out, David and John had hopes of releasing the video around 20 years ago, but were unable to, due to questions about copyright. The music was copyright claimed so I'll never see any revenue from it, but I still thought it was worth sharing. There's no real drawback to posting copyright-claimed content on RUclips - I'd just never see any ad revenue from it, but this channel isn't monetized, anyway.
Music is the best part... unless you're an uneducated, spoiled, and socially ignorant youth.... learn about soundtracks before just thinking negative things. What would you prefer? Lol
Little known fact: Nikolai Tesla was doing an experiment in Colorado Springs when this "meteoric" event took place, and claimed it may well have been his fault.
what I and my kids saw ghost the sky in broad daylight for ten seconds in feb 2008 from qld Australia that was never disclosed to the public despite being unmissable by the space agencies made me say soon after that we will see a new space race and a rush to mars within a decade// and here we are...
There's no conspiracy to hide such events. If it were a large one, it would be reported here: cneos.jpl.nasa.gov/fireballs/ -Or possibly here, although eyewitness reports are often spotty during daylight hours, and the website was fairly young back in 2008: www.amsmeteors.org/fireballs/fireball-report/
The calculation or energy-which seemed to say 3.2 10^20 ergs or. 3.2 10^13 joules-not much-about the same as the Hiroshima bomb-seems waaaay to small the total energy of the Hiroshima atomic bomb was about 1.8 * 10^13 Joule.
From Tunguska, nothing larger than ~sub-mm spherules has been found. It's difficult to say whether or not any larger fragments reached the ground because some meteorite types like carbonaceous chondrites would probably turn to ~mud after a few years in that climate. Even if they fell, the first expedition arrived years after the event and there wouldn't have been anything to find. In general, hunting in dense vegetation for stones that had fallen years prior would be extremely difficult. Most stones from witnessed meteorite falls are recovered within a few days or weeks of the fall, because impact holes quickly disappear and fresh growth and dead leaves will hide anything small on the surface within weeks to months. There could still be stones out there, but it's also possible that none reached the ground, or that they were something like a CI chondrite, which turned to mud within a few weeks or months. We don't know for certain.
@@MeteoriteGallery I am trying to grasp this, as I've always read nothing was found either, but a gentleman in this documentary at the 39:30 mark says the collection is from there. I don't know how. I understand it's swampy, and the vegetation would surely cover anything as you said. Thank you for the reply. I need to expand my knowledge on the subject of things that fall to earth.
@@MeteoriteGallery sorry, I did not paste the copied link in my response. Thank you kindly for your patience. The video you posted is awesome. Those teams were seriously good at what they did. The hardships of gathering data are almost superhuman.
Our best guess is that it was a very "soft," comet-like asteroid. A few similar but smaller events like Revelstoke (fell in Canada in 1965) have been documented and a little material has been recovered. Revelstoke was identical to a rare type of meteorites we have other samples of called CI chondrites. They are very friable, clay-rich meteorites -- spectrally similar to B and D-type asteroids like the asteroid Bennu, which OSIRIS-REx just sampled. When modeling the atmospheric entry of soft bodies like this, if they are large enough, they tend to punch through the upper levels of the atmosphere and then explode catastrophically when ram pressure builds high enough. Most meteorites are much more coherent and are better at surviving fragmentation. I've been trying to come up with a practical analogy -- it's like the difference between dropping a rock off of a high bridge versus a bag of flour: The rock will probably survive hitting the surface of the water. The bag of flour will probably ~poof. There is a good chance that the Tunguska event dropped at least some recoverable CI-chondrite meteorites. Unfortunately, CI chondrites react rapidly with water and decompose into ~mud. A CI chondrite would not survive for more than a year or two if left exposed to the wet climate of the area. The Tunguska event was in 1908 and the first expedition made it to the area only by 1927, 19 years later. It's too bad. But the Tunguska event was similar enough to a number of other witnessed events that we have a pretty good idea of why it happened and what the impactor was.
Love the old footage nice 1 indeed. Big rock she fall from the blue of the sky. Weird that the Smithsonian actually lets anything go instead of their true 2 form hiding it away .May I add that when Tesla was first made aware of this, he commented on this event and he said whoops, but I digress have been told i do so on occasion's.
Haha, you're not wrong. A CD with this video on it was sent to my PhD advisor by Dr. David Kring at the Smithsonian. My advisor put a sticky-note on it about sorting out potential copyright issues and maybe doing something with it eventually, but I think they made no progress after ~20 years. He passed away a few years ago and I found it with some of his effects that were going to be thrown away. Looked at RUclips's terms and discovered that it didn't matter if it was copyrighted - I could share the video, but wouldn't be able to monetize it. Reformatting it from the disk file was tricky and took a few tries but figured it out in the end. Not sure if the folks at the Smithsonian are aware that I shared it, or if they'd be happy I did, but I am making nothing from it, so I hope it's okay. The first observations of this event were of the low-frequency infrasound pressure wave detected by instruments in Russian Siberia and Europe. Don't know if Tesla had anything like that, but I don't see how he could have known before the folks monitoring those instruments..
Wish i was there when that bad boy went screaming in 😮 it's gotta be worth the ⚰️ far as I'm concerned 😅 ,now I'm over the half century mark I'd take the hit lol 🌎
I believe that the tunguska blast was a result of Nikola Tesla testing his death ray in 1908. The time frame matches. He pointed his death ray towards the artic and inadvertently hit Siberia. This theory would explain everything...
As a professional musician and soundtrack composer, i can say that anyone complaining about the music in this documentary is just incredibly musically ignorant and totally uneducated and unaware of how soundtracks were made for anything in these days. It's a perfectly suitable and time period correct soundtrack, and it adds to the charm and feel of this very old and very informative documentary. In fact, i would say the soundtrack is very good. Recording an actual orchestra to fit the scenes is literally one of the hardest things to do, and anyone watching this in the day it was created would expect this sort of music. Enjoy it. it's like a time capsule and better than you could possibly imagine.
I like the music
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I have to give credit to these scientists for taking on such an arduous journey to find the point of impact.Siberia is a huge country(you can fit Canada within the borders of Siberia and still have room left over) and much of the landscape is just about impassable by conventional means.And if that isn’t hard enough,the mosquitoes and various fly species will eat you alive in summer months.Winter is downright freezing with temps bordering on minus 50 Fahrenheit.I first learned of this event as a teenager 40 some years ago.Thanks for the upload.
- a Siberia escapee
Which makes the music absolutely hilarious.
It was not a meteor at all. These scientists are wrong. I know what it was.
HUGE place and rough as hell to survive 😮❤
Happy times for science music @@Bryan-ig2zp
Excellent program. Period correct photos and film with scientific facts - no hyperbole. Thank you for posting this.
It's not even sensationally titled like "What science won't tell you about the Tunguska blast!"
This is easily the best documentary on Tunguska that I have seen. Thank you !
This was recommended by Static History (Static in the Attic). He has excellent channels you should check them out! Be well...
Nice that this footage has survived.
Most of the information found online for the past few decades has mostly been hyperbole and wild speculation about what happened in Tunguska. This miraculous documentary tells the complete scientific history of the event and how it was studied, in clear detailed terms. Thanks for posting. I once had an eight ounce individual piece of the Sikhote Alin meteorite, which I regrettably sold ten years ago. It was not “shrapnel” and had the best features possible.
@@cyclingnerddelux698lol compared to the video where the dude says it was Teslas energy weapon that caused the tunguska event
Yes - and I believe that has become the norm in most "documentaries" today. They are little more than flash, cutscenes, dramatic swinging around of the camera on people/places and lots and lots of "DUN DUN DUNNNNN" hyperbole thrown in to try and keep your attention. They've gone the way of reality TV, sadly. I'm glad that ones such as this exist, in which you can be given the facts as they were known, and can enjoy them.
Something like this was not caused by an electrical event. Great documentary.
Very interesting and relevant content featuring very rare footage. Thank you for posting!
Half way through this video and I must comment on the quality , specifically the mixing of the sound . The music does not drown out the voice as so many documentaries do now . Content appears top notch also .
Excellent information. Great original pictures.
What struck me most is how remarkably advanced the research was from technological point of view. Even so long ago it was still very, very advanced. I just find is captivating.
One day I came across a term that I had never seen before; "presentism." Among its different meanings were two that made a lot more sense out of why so many seem to dismiss the knowledge/abilities of people in times past; A bias toward present-day attitudes and the tendency to interpret the past through present day perspectives and ideas. I believe that it tends to make people think that we are remarkably advanced and anything before our time were little more than ignorant savages who were too stupid to know much beyond "fire burns you" and "you need air to breathe." Like you, I was impressed at the level of knowledge, and glad, too.
Your Right ! They Had to Carry and Stretch Out A Long Rope With A Knot tied in it every 12 inches To Get as Many Fathoms of Ground Miles Horizontally To attempt to even Figure out The length Surrounding around The Explosion Zone !!! That’s Many Many Tons of Firewood or Housing Material That Just Laid Out In The Middle Of Hell on Earth To Just Rot Away !!! Maybe I Just Hate Wasting Material When So Many could have Benefited From These Destroyed Trees !!! I Live in a country setting where highways are being constantly Built and Nobody can Harvest The Billions of Trees That Are Destroyed for Pollution Highways Due To The Fact That The Utility Companies Ain’t going to Allow Such ,,So They Can Charge Every Human To Survive The Winters !!! I’m Speaking of Whole Strips of Forest Being Bulldozed Away and No Effort To Make Lumber or Firewood To The Public Even at a Reduced Price !!! Such a Waste and Lost of Animal Habitat That Never Ends !!!
This documentary describes the very high quality of Soviet science, at least in this relatively non-ideological field. It is interesting and somewhat surprising that the Smithsonian Institution translated this Soviet documentary and made it accessible to western audiences in the midst of the Cold War
That film was not widely accessible in USSR. I was always interested about what happened in Tunguska since my childhood, was reading all about it and if it was shown in our movie theaters I would know it. Majority of documentaries in USSR were shot and placed in archives, That one probably was shown on some scientific conference that is how Smithsonian got it but not to the wide soviet audience.
What a cool documentary. Further indication that each generation should not assume it has cornered the market on accomplishment just because technological prowess has increased.
Absolutely wonderful film. Thank you!
very interesting video. Some of the documentary footage was later used in Carl Sagan's Cosmos episode "Heaven and Hell" where the Tunguska event was discussed
I first learned of this event as a teen in the '60s, this video makes me appreciate the massive effort that went into the investigation, thanks so much for posting.
Good stuff. Thanks for the upload.👍
Beautiful documentary! I own a small piece of the Sikhote Alin meteorite, it doesn't have any jagged edges, showing that it was still travelling at extreme speeds after becoming separated from its parent body. Its crust has a very dark metal look and is slightly weathered (rusty). It weighs about 20 grams.
This must be the best documentary I have seen so far.
finally something original not a copy cat topic video
This is an old video by The Smithsonian Institution, digitized.
Probably the best place this could have taken place! This is a great video on the topic... I'm surprised it doesn't have more views.. Thanks for sharing this!
True. Somewhat odd
This video was up for quite some time, but only just started gaining traction. I think RUclips randomly started suggesting it to people about a month ago, but couldn't tell you what changed or why.
@@MeteoriteGallery I can support that, even as a person who enjoys documentaries (not "real TV disguised as documentaries") but also scientific subjects; this is quite literally the first I've seen it or known of your channel. I am VERY glad I found both of them!
This is the best study of this event I have ever seen.
One can hardly imagine how bad the bugs were up there!
Yep. When the no-see-ems are so numerous that the clouds of them, coming to carry you away, simple bug juice doesn’t even hint at helping. If possible, worse than the ones in the Yukon.
Can't imagine what these folks dealt with. Did some field mapping out in Montana and the mosquitoes out there would make a cloud around you and somehow get you through 2-3 layers. A few dozen would follow you into a car, didn't matter how quickly you jumped in. I luckily didn't react much, but one of the girls was a walking welt by the end of it.
It only gets worse further N. Reindeer and moose hides from areas like Tunguska are usually peppered with holes from bot flies...
Excellent. The way science should be done.
LOVE old documentaries even if the “ expert science” is limited or inaccurate or incomplete or false. Kinda like now I guess lol but with no allusions to wormholes, aliens, black magic, secret military weaponry or modern political propaganda. Love the soundtrack AND narration.Nice post! Merci!
I agree. However, I find that the older studies are superior in accuracy for the very reasons you mention. I read a lot of older (pre-1990) journal articles and studies when I want to research a current 'calamity' in the world and have yet to find a current topic of sudden interest that has not already been thoroughly studied, documented, published, and is almost always prescient.
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The soundtrack music reminded me of all the Saturday afternoon matinees I enjoyed as a kid in the 1950s.
Superb. I would love to see this documentary colourised.
They said that this is in one of the most desolate places on Earth.....they also said that dealing with insects was mind-numbing....
This footage so rare! good work :D
and the fashion are looks like almost modern of today
I pity the guy that got stuck with building that huge trees mockup towards the end.
Very interesting. I operated our company's Electron Beam Microprobe and Scanning Electron Electron Microprobe for 30 years. I wish that I had been able to obtain some of that material.
The particles collected during the Stardust mission are probably pretty similar stuff - if you're curious, would check out Brownlee's paper "The Stardust Mission: Analyzing Samples from the Edge of the Solar System." Access it for free via sci-hub.
@@MeteoriteGallery I've been retired for 30 years now so I don't have access to the instrument. We were supposed to get a piece of "moon" rock too, but MIT got them. That was a long time ago though.
Amazing that this was done during the Stalinist Era. These people were definitely: courageous, persistent, smart, etc..
I wonder for how long the Smithsonian had this film as it was recently presented here probably for the first time to the world. Thank you very much for posting this. I would have never seen it otherwise. It's amazing the effort and the years behind all of the research about Tunguska. How fortunate it occured in a remote area. It seems they found no human remains or even remains of animals that might have perished. I thought they found particles embedded in the trunks of the trees. Also I thought a local man collected quite large pieces of the meteor, yet maybe they doubted it. was actually from the asteroid or meteor. I thought it was determined to be an asteroid. It's also remarkable when that meteor hit about in 2013 or so and if there might be a pattern of meteors striking in Siberia. Some long ago blamed Nikola Tesla and his lab on Long Island New York that he was trying to create wireless transmission of electricity to electrify the world instead of using power lines.
No. Tesla was smart, but at That Time...would have been impossible for a cause and effect, so many miles apart. From New York to Mid Siberia...all the way over there, no way. Mr Tesla was not God.
From what I can tell, they had the film on file for at least 50 years. The notes my advisor had with it said that they weren't sure about how to deal with potential copyright issues - or how to release it if they did.
To be fair, to release something like this in any way, they'd probably need to hire copyright attorneys, license it, agree to some kind of asset split or who knows what, and...it's probably easier and cheaper for the Smithsonian to put out something completely new.
I figured I'd try it and see if it got taken down. RUclips said it was okay 😬
@dannycolorado5875 You are 100% correct
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Wireless_System#Feasibility
@mwj5368 Burned trees were found at Tunguska.
One weird study from back in 2007 claimed to have found metallic particles embedded in fossilized animal bones and tusks from the late Pleistocene in Alaska, but...to be frank, the author and handful of scientists that are pushing the Younger Dryas Impact Theory have published a number of now 100% refuted claims and studies to try to justify their theory, and it is completely bogus:
www.nytimes.com/2024/03/05/magazine/younger-dryas-impact-hypothesis-comet.html
Excellent scientific Work with basic tools and 🧠 Power, I tip my hat
Well made, and very informativ documentary...
Today, it is believed to have been a comet, which came apart completely.
Very nice and informative. Thank you
A production made in Russia. Beautiful !
Whatever it was, it reminded me of a Tsar Bomba, and it means that its waves of shock must have traveled around a planet at least once.
Airburst Comet. Not a Meteor, or an Asteroid. Massive chunk of Comet Enki, from the Taurids. Big clump of dirty snowball.
On Carl Sagan’s Cosmos episode 4, he concludes that a piece of a comet is the culprit of the Tunguska explosion. I agree.
Where did the piece go?
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Watch that episode and you'll get the answer. Right here in RUclips.
It exploded. Then melted.
It was an air burst so nothing left.
Scariest things in this film are the mosquitoes!
nothing like a good spheral, that's what my granpappy used to say.
I was experimenting with some facial-topiary at the weekend but hadn't decided on a name for my new look!
Now, thanks to this documentary I have named my beard... the 'Soviet scientist!'
Thank you 🇬🇧🏆🇷🇺
Would love to see a modern, rather more sensitive micro analysis for iridium and other (less common earth side) elemental compositions of those spherules?
There are many modern studies, but most haven't been able to draw strong conclusions from the observed spherules. There seems to be general agreement that there are slightly more spherules in the 1908 peat layers, but I don't see any solid studies that pin the impactor's identity. As far as I can tell, they generally haven't been able to isolate spherules that are certainly from the 1908 event. Some carbon-isotope studies have suggested that there are elevated non-radiogenic levels of carbon in the 1908 peat layers, consistent with a carbonaceous chondrite or cometary impactor, but I was not personally convinced by the data:
scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=tunguska+spherules+isotopes&btnG=
For example, one of the top hits there found diamond and lonsdaleite and noted that those minerals have been found in diamond-bearing irons -- but we know that the Tunguska impactor was something soft like a rubble pile asteroid or friable carbonaceous chondrite - not an iron. So...there must be another source for the high-pressure carbon polymorphs.
2:40 first Plexiglass / Perspex display shelves? Or am I wrong?
That front edge sure looks like the right texture. Both were invented around the early 1930s, so it's possible.
Oh god the music is wrecking my head
Get over YOURSELF. And leave God out of it…
Get over YOURSELF. And leave God out of it…
@@sonnylambert4893 uhh thats just an expression. I don't even believe in any "god" I just think the choice of music really doesn't suit this documentary.
It's a documentary about the most powerful meteorite strike in human history and they put ridiculous silly music instead of something more sombre. Its not the right tone to set. We could be struck by another one that size at any time. Thats my point.
Nobody saw the Chelyabynsk meteor coming and it almost blew up an entire town.
Very interesting
Fascinating.
magical time 1900
Jolly good Happy Music For Such a Hell Hole of a Place !!!
Amazing Russian people and scientists 😊
We had a large tide here in New Zealand in 1908, and I wonder if the event was connected with this strike.
Tried to look that up, but couldn't find any references. Regardless - shouldn't have been related to this - this was a very small body about 50-60 m across, negligible gravity compared to the Moon.
Que documentário incrível!! Sempre achei q foi algo ufológico que caiu na terra, mas ainda acredito que "guardiões"destruíram o cometa salvando a terra! Like e inscrito do Brasil❤
There was no Meteor it exploded in the air. Therefore left no trace
Kulik the epitome of the intrepid scientist.
That occurance is a TRIP'!
Informative. Thank you
Thanks for watching!
@@MeteoriteGallery welcome
@@MeteoriteGallerydo you have a scientific study of the 2013 meteor?☄️
@@methinnk2.063 There are many - this one is a good starting point
elar.urfu.ru/bitstream/10995/27561/1/scopus-2013-0182.pdf
It takes over one thousand years for the Earth's atmoshere to recover from such an event. We are experiencing thus event.
What are the ongoing effects? Small amounts of debris would have precipitated fairly quickly and energy transfer would dissipate rapidly.
This wasn't really that big of an event. This was a 50-60 meter asteroid - even if you turned 100% of it into dust and put it into the upper atmosphere, it wouldn't have lasting effects. The explosion did put some dust into the upper atmosphere, but far less than many volcanic eruptions from the past few decades.
gotta love the soundtrack! workin their balls off and they play this! funny!
Harsh conditions to work in!
Great doc, but that music does not fit in the slightest. They made it look like a trip to Disney instead of a place of foreboding awe.
Godzilla had some bad gas and went out there and let it rip.
These people are absolute geniuses and should not be looked down upon..Russia is an amazing place! They had sisemagraphs in 1906!?!? That's crazy to think of the technology a hundred and some years ago..
Yes thank you beautiful
Actually, according to "The Ringing Cedars of Russia" books about a wild natural woman who lived alone in the Taiga, her great Grandfather was a powerful Vedic Russ who vaporized the comet above the Earth so that it would not cause an extinction level event. The old wizard lived through it although he was totally blind afterward.
That doesn't surprise me in the least great comment.
It never strucked earth. It exploded above earth surface as a result of friction,temparature and pressure inside the meteoor. A nuclear like explosion as a result of all that. There was no crater and the way threes were destroyed and laying on the ground and more facts show the explosion on considerable hight. Fragments however did smashed and landed on the earth surface.
It's a good thing the comet/meteorite did not fall upon a city or a heavily populated area!! Interesting a theory of a massive collection of cosmic dust, therefor no meteorite fragments..
Was thinking the same imagine if it air bursted over a major city.
Tall-El Hammam Meteorite Airburst in Jordan, north of the Dead Sea, several thousand years ago. SEE: A Tunguska sized airburst destroyed Tall el-Hammam a Middle Bronze Age city in the Jordan Valley near the Dead Sea. (It's a peer review article written in a "Scientific Journal")
That article was based on faked observations and poor scientific methods, and has been discredited.
www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-08216-x
retractionwatch.com/2021/10/01/criticism-engulfs-paper-claiming-an-asteroid-destroyed-biblical-sodom-and-gomorrah/
skepticalinquirer.org/2021/12/sodom-meteor-strike-claims-should-be-taken-with-a-pillar-of-salt/
Brilliant video although i do believe a ‘comet’ was responsible
You are probably correct. I'm not really sure how to respond to the people commenting with conspiracy theories on here.
@@MeteoriteGalleryyeah there r some bizarre theories that’s for sure but as you know the science points towards comet/meteorite. I leans towards the ‘comet’ theory
Is there a scientific reason why it could not have been an ice meteorite?
@@NicholasPorter-p8i Cometary is definitely possible, but I don't think I'd make such concrete statements. There's no hard line between objects like D-class asteroids and comets, so I'd hesitate before saying it was a comet versus something like a friable CI-chondrite like asteroid or even an object similar to 2008 TC3 - just larger.
It's very possible that recoverable meteorites fell. It took 13 years for the first expeditions to arrive - if the object was something like a CI chondrite, any meteorites that survived to reach the ground would have turned to mud within, at most, a few months. If they were a more durable type...it's still possible that they're there to be found, but haven't been recovered yet. The dynamics of the explosion are still very much a subject of ongoing work, and modeling a potential strewnfield for an event like this, even today, is educated guesswork. NASA's models for the Muskogee, Oklahoma, fall just a few years ago were off by several miles. If you look in the wrong spot, you have no chance of finding anything...
Even with good intel, hunting for a decades-old fall in a literal swamp would be extremely challenging, and finding any fragments would be remarkably lucky.
I'm not convinced either way.
@@prevost8686 An icy meteorite would be a comet by definition. The trouble is that small objects in the Solar System aren't just all rock or all ice - there's a gradient. Active comets tend to be very icy, but many asteroids look like comets that have gotten trapped in the warm inner Solar System and have lost most of their water / ice. But they're still very soft and would act similarly when coming into the atmosphere.
Based on how the Tunguska object ~exploded, we know it was friable, but that's all I'd say we know for certain. It could have been cometary / icy. It could also have just been a soft/wet asteroid, like a CI1 chondrite.
They had seismometers in 1908??
Nationalistic music for each nationality of scientists! "Men of Harlech" for the British? I have never heard of the Drake Strait before.
Had to look this up - the first ‘modern’ seismometers/seismographs were developed circa 1870-1880, so, yes, apparently!
@@MeteoriteGallery Nice!
Seismometers are quite analog in principle, using a stylus with ink, weights, springs, a clockwork drum and a roll of paper.
Tesla gone wild.
Was the thumbnail picture taken at Ascot?
What's Ascot? Googled, uncertain
@@MeteoriteGallery It is where annual horse racing events are held in England. Punters traditionally dress up in old fashioned attire.
Great archival film. Annoying background music.
Haha, agreed. The music also got several copyright claims 🤷♂️
Anyone notice how all the stupid comments come from accounts with subscribers and no content
Or people who do have content that indicate they are either lunatics or dyed in the wool conspiracy theorists that probably believe we're all lizard man aliens. Best to just ignore them and go on - reason won't work with them any more than it does the insanely politically partisan.
I thought that was Baldrick and Black Adder!
Researching about Sodom and Gomorrah brought me here.
Enjoyed watching this
Exactly
the microspheres are also found in all dust samples from the WTC/911. Many millions, billions really
Asteroid dont turn human to stone like volcanos
Some think including myself , it was satan being thrown from heaven. Since 1908 the world has got darker. Jesus Christ will be here soon get ready.
@jussikankinen9409 if you're referring to Pompeii, those were actually voids in the ash that were filled with plaster.
How you got the visuals
The video was originally digitized by David Kring (currently at LPI-JSC) and a copy was sent to John Wasson at UCLA. I found it among John's effects after he passed away. From what I was able to find out, David and John had hopes of releasing the video around 20 years ago, but were unable to, due to questions about copyright.
The music was copyright claimed so I'll never see any revenue from it, but I still thought it was worth sharing. There's no real drawback to posting copyright-claimed content on RUclips - I'd just never see any ad revenue from it, but this channel isn't monetized, anyway.
Million ton iron block and 700kg was biggest found
Mmmm the 700 kg rock you're talking about was an iron that fell in 1947 in Sikhote Alin - different Russian meteorite fall.
Excellent, pity about the music..........
Music is the best part... unless you're an uneducated, spoiled, and socially ignorant youth.... learn about soundtracks before just thinking negative things. What would you prefer? Lol
This documentary looks just like the old war films.im sure while bombs are falling a man says let me run out here and get this shot.lmfao
Little known fact: Nikolai Tesla was doing an experiment in Colorado Springs when this "meteoric" event took place, and claimed it may well have been his fault.
San francisco earthquake and Wright brothers Making their airplane
what I and my kids saw ghost the sky in broad daylight for ten seconds in feb 2008 from qld Australia that was never disclosed to the public despite being unmissable by the space agencies made me say soon after that we will see a new space race and a rush to mars within a decade// and here we are...
There's no conspiracy to hide such events. If it were a large one, it would be reported here:
cneos.jpl.nasa.gov/fireballs/
-Or possibly here, although eyewitness reports are often spotty during daylight hours, and the website was fairly young back in 2008:
www.amsmeteors.org/fireballs/fireball-report/
The opening footage of an explosion is not of the Tunguska meteorite, but I'm sure everyone knows that. 😊
The calculation or energy-which seemed to say 3.2 10^20 ergs or. 3.2 10^13 joules-not much-about the same as the Hiroshima bomb-seems waaaay to small
the total energy of the Hiroshima atomic bomb was about 1.8 * 10^13 Joule.
Looked up another guesstimate-about 20 megatons-so 10^3 bigger-
They found meteorite fragments. Others have also. Why is this ignored?!?!
From Tunguska, nothing larger than ~sub-mm spherules has been found.
It's difficult to say whether or not any larger fragments reached the ground because some meteorite types like carbonaceous chondrites would probably turn to ~mud after a few years in that climate. Even if they fell, the first expedition arrived years after the event and there wouldn't have been anything to find.
In general, hunting in dense vegetation for stones that had fallen years prior would be extremely difficult. Most stones from witnessed meteorite falls are recovered within a few days or weeks of the fall, because impact holes quickly disappear and fresh growth and dead leaves will hide anything small on the surface within weeks to months.
There could still be stones out there, but it's also possible that none reached the ground, or that they were something like a CI chondrite, which turned to mud within a few weeks or months. We don't know for certain.
@@MeteoriteGallery I am trying to grasp this, as I've always read nothing was found either, but a gentleman in this documentary at the 39:30 mark says the collection is from there. I don't know how. I understand it's swampy, and the vegetation would surely cover anything as you said. Thank you for the reply. I need to expand my knowledge on the subject of things that fall to earth.
@salmotones This video is
@@MeteoriteGallery ruclips.net/video/8EzJkBAEH9A/видео.htmlsi=Ak68iaJxxKoynWGP
@@MeteoriteGallery sorry, I did not paste the copied link in my response. Thank you kindly for your patience. The video you posted is awesome. Those teams were seriously good at what they did. The hardships of gathering data are almost superhuman.
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Scientists & researchers can look forever they’ve never going to find anything. Another theory I’ve heard that it was a comet? composed of ice. 🤷🏻♀️
Our best guess is that it was a very "soft," comet-like asteroid. A few similar but smaller events like Revelstoke (fell in Canada in 1965) have been documented and a little material has been recovered. Revelstoke was identical to a rare type of meteorites we have other samples of called CI chondrites. They are very friable, clay-rich meteorites -- spectrally similar to B and D-type asteroids like the asteroid Bennu, which OSIRIS-REx just sampled.
When modeling the atmospheric entry of soft bodies like this, if they are large enough, they tend to punch through the upper levels of the atmosphere and then explode catastrophically when ram pressure builds high enough. Most meteorites are much more coherent and are better at surviving fragmentation. I've been trying to come up with a practical analogy -- it's like the difference between dropping a rock off of a high bridge versus a bag of flour:
The rock will probably survive hitting the surface of the water. The bag of flour will probably ~poof.
There is a good chance that the Tunguska event dropped at least some recoverable CI-chondrite meteorites. Unfortunately, CI chondrites react rapidly with water and decompose into ~mud. A CI chondrite would not survive for more than a year or two if left exposed to the wet climate of the area. The Tunguska event was in 1908 and the first expedition made it to the area only by 1927, 19 years later. It's too bad. But the Tunguska event was similar enough to a number of other witnessed events that we have a pretty good idea of why it happened and what the impactor was.
Tesla testing
Tesla weapon
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No meteor it was Tesla …
that was actually an early Ukrainian drone
Love the old footage nice 1 indeed. Big rock she fall from the blue of the sky. Weird that the Smithsonian actually lets anything go instead of their true 2 form hiding it away .May I add that when Tesla was first made aware of this, he commented on this event and he said whoops, but I digress have been told i do so on occasion's.
Haha, you're not wrong.
A CD with this video on it was sent to my PhD advisor by Dr. David Kring at the Smithsonian. My advisor put a sticky-note on it about sorting out potential copyright issues and maybe doing something with it eventually, but I think they made no progress after ~20 years. He passed away a few years ago and I found it with some of his effects that were going to be thrown away.
Looked at RUclips's terms and discovered that it didn't matter if it was copyrighted - I could share the video, but wouldn't be able to monetize it. Reformatting it from the disk file was tricky and took a few tries but figured it out in the end.
Not sure if the folks at the Smithsonian are aware that I shared it, or if they'd be happy I did, but I am making nothing from it, so I hope it's okay.
The first observations of this event were of the low-frequency infrasound pressure wave detected by instruments in Russian Siberia and Europe. Don't know if Tesla had anything like that, but I don't see how he could have known before the folks monitoring those instruments..
@@MeteoriteGallery I hear you.
Wish i was there when that bad boy went screaming in 😮 it's gotta be worth the ⚰️ far as I'm concerned 😅 ,now I'm over the half century mark I'd take the hit lol 🌎
Why didn't they helicopter drop and then eat at Soviet Russia McDonalds?
Sounds like a mickey mouse cartoon.
I believe that the tunguska blast was a result of Nikola Tesla testing his death ray in 1908. The time frame matches. He pointed his death ray towards the artic and inadvertently hit Siberia. This theory would explain everything...
If only the physics worked...
Some would say that a wormhole from a parallel universe sent a ballistic nuclear missile to this exact location.
So… you’re not saying it was aliens, but….
Yeah, some people are nuts
Firmament fragment fell
Piece of the vault perhaps. 👆✝️🔥🕊🩸🙏
You’ll never find it because this was an event that happened when Nikola Tesla’s wireless transmission event in 1908
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