If you wanted a team to treat the game as an 'event' then any Arteta team is not suitable. As said, Arteta is not messing around and neither will his players. Every game for Arsenal is an audition to stake a place in a highly competitive team. Most teams are not up to the challenge when Arsenal click, don't take it personally...
What is this question? No all star team has ever been good. It’s a bunch of players thrown together from different teams under a manager that’s never coached them before. What did you expect?
@@ChiChi-jg1ch Exactly Arsenal had a 16 or 17 year old playing at some point. many players were not in their normal positions you can even say Arsenal were just testing tactics lol
@@RomeDCarlo Charlotte FC equalised against Chelsea with a penalty in the 92nd minute and went on to win 5-3 on penalties. A midseason game for Charlotte a preseason game for Chelsea who used 21 players throughout the game. Hardly a match for comparisons. EPL teams win these matches more often than not. If any EPL team in preseason came and played a Championship team that was at mid season levels of fitness it would be embarrassing for the Championship team to get beaten.
@@RomeDCarlobecause for the mls team it is a huge game and a chance to prove themselves - for the premier league team it is literally their holiday. if the best mls team came up against a hungry Arsenal last season its 12-0
The unfortunate truth for the MLS, is that Arsenal actually were conscious it was a friendly, and weren’t anywhere near full capacity. If Arsenal turned up the heat to maximum, it could have ended ten goals to nothing, five was a good score for the MLS.
He’s actually making a really good point tbh. If MLS is bringing teams like arsenal, MAN U etc to make MLS more popular and MLS best players are getting beat 5-0. It says a lot about the league. It does not help the rest of the world take the league seriously.
@@bryane727 I mean it’s a good marketing strategy to bring foreign clubs, but they need to try and find a foreign club that can make an exciting match for 90min. Not one of the best teams in the world lol. MLS team had one shot on target against arsenal in the whole game, that is not exciting.
😂😂😂 You'll see next season how silly that comment is. The last time they played against the best of Europe they got beat 10-2 over 2 games 😂😂. It'll be the same next season.
@@danmac9630that comment is going to come back to bite him in a few months. Destroy most teams in Europe 😂😂 I'm sure I remember Bayern destroying them 10-2.
@@darreno2428wow didn’t know this is the same team that played bayern in 2016. This is the most valuable team in the world. You salty fans are afraid that arsenal are back and their in your head rent free🤣🤣🤣🤣🤡🤡🤡🤡
yeah but my god the MLS "all stars" played soooooo badly.. terrible shooting, kicking the ball into the stands, passing was horrible too, it was like amateur level passing.. if anything MLS needs to play against European clubs more because the standards are still so low.
its true they did that to most of the PL teams last season and even the bottom PL teams would still beat MLS all stars. to put It into perspective even further arsenal didn't play their strongest 11 from start to finish and they were also not fully fit this is only their 2nd pre season game they've been on vacation for the last 6 weeks. so MLS should not feel embarrassed its arsenal
They beat wolves 5-0 in their last game competitive game, that's a proper side in a competitive match. This is a bunch of guy who came together 5min before ko
MLS reputation is already considered a laughing stock from Europe, the idea of an "All-star team" taking 11 of the league's best players and throwing them together for a 1 off game against an actual team with cohesion and one of the best teams across Europe last year in Arsenal, what do you actually expect
what people dont understand. is there may possibly be more EPL fans in the united states than MLS fans. arsenal is a worldwide powerhouse. i live for EPL preseason tours in america. and its no shame to lose a preseason game to anyone. keep making the MLS all star game a friendly against european powerhouses that people in the US dont generally get to see.
Yes, I noticed that 90% of fans in the stadium were Arsenal fans, it was a home game and the MLS players were the away team! Arsenal FC love and embrace their global fan base.
Arsenal took the game more seriously and yet it was MLS that had over 5 yellow cards from unnecessary tackles. It's not about who took the game more seriously, it's about the quality! (same reason why Bayern won 27 - 0 the other day) Trust me, Arsenal didn't even take that game seriously the way they would on a normal day.
Its the a Premier League for a reason, its the fiercest competition, going toe toe to toe with teams like Man City, Arsenal, Liverpool over 38 games, is now, i believe, harder than winning the Champions League. Atleast on a one off game in the Champions league you can get a shock result against say Man City, but over 38 games the best team will always win.
Rooney said it best: you can’t just throw a bunch of guys together in short notice and tell them “figure it out”. Arsenal have chemistry, they’re an actual unit.
@@ChiChi-jg1chnah I’m an Arsenal fan but that’s not the same most of these players have never even played together and have only trained once word each other
They'd do better setting up a small tournament, 4-6 teams total, 3 MLS and invite 3 teams from around the world (not PL teams). Teams from Brasil, Turkey etc. That level were MLS teams can compete
@@khalilshahyd9063 I mean maybe you would rather mate, but for me as an Arsenal fan i couldn't care less to watch MLS vs Besiktas. MLS has a good thing going tbh, to raise the level of their league they have to play with the best. There's a reason why Premier league teams are winning a lot of European competitions now, they play on a highest level in their own league.
Just stick with the MLS All Stars vs Liga MX All Stars or like they said a Saudi All Star squad but bringing in the top Premiere League teams is not it.
If we think about the MLS as a development league for European sides, then it makes sense to have MLS all-stars play against the top European clubs to show if any of the players could legitimately compete in Europe. Obviously, we've had players like DeAndre Yedlin, Matt Turner, and Clint Dempsey start in the MLS and successfully play in Europe afterward. But if we're trying to be on par with the Premier League, Serie A, or the Bundesliga, then the East vs. West thing makes sense...but no one legitimately looks at the MLS as competition for top European sides at the point, so they should keep the current format.
I don't think this says much about where the MLS is in comparison to the Premier League, cause even PL teams can barely keep up with Arsenal. I think they should be playing West Ham or others near them in the table, and that would really give you an idea of where the MLS stands in terms of quality.
I'm an Arsenal fan and I get what the argument is but it is a skill difference and not an embarrassing result tbh, the MLS is still growing a lot and so is Arsenal. Arsenal are right now in a position to defend the fact that apparently on paper they somehow have the most expensive team in the world right now for some reason. No shame honestly but if you have Benteke as your all star in 2023 you truly can't expect much tbh, I believe those players are in different teams and just joining to play together for a week or two. It's not that big a deal
Arsenal fan here - tbh, I don't think it is an embarrassment to lose to THIS Arsenal team. Our team has been meticulously built over a 4 year period. It is one of the top 2 teams in England, and probably Europe. This is a team built to compete with a juggernaut in Man City. MLS team was thrown together in what, a couple of weeks?
This was a good testing ground for MLS teams, fans and the league's executives to understand the fact that the league still has a long way to go in terms of tactics, recruitment, coaching and how serious they are willing to take the development of the MLS. Seeing this gap in quality between them and this Arsenal team hopefully should make the people running the MLS and the the respective teams want to get better. I get that this is a team assembled in a short period of time argument but if the same was flipped and it was the PL- all stars or the Serie A all stars playing against the MLS All stars - I bet the score would've been way worse. It is not a matter of feeling defeated or claiming that it is unfair to have a fixture in the first place, Arsenal would do this to any team in the world bar Man City. Ain't no shame in being one of them.
No one gives a damn. Stupid idea from the start. Can't just throw some players together and expect them to beat a team. That's not how football on this level works.
Exactly and they’re facing a team that came 2nd in the best league in the world and they really think they have any chance of winning Arsenal didn’t even play their best players for majority of the match and when they did they automatically dominated the game
I think a game like this perfectly shows that the MLS still has plenty of growing to do. It was cute, they were parading around their leagues best players and then they got ripped apart by an Arsenal team that still had several more gears to go. Even listening to some of the commentators praising Arsenal for ”looking sharp” just shows the difference clearly, I thought Arsenal looked like they had more gears to go through and made some sloppy mistakes.
I think the reason the MLS hasn't improved is because they're trying to change the sport with asinine things like "Skills Challenge", East vs West, Bringing things that are not naturally in football to make it "entertaining". If the MLS want a league that will excite viewers, make it more competitive. Take it seriously. And for God's sake, Don't try to Americanise the sport. Americans love European football as it is. We have a lot of Arsenal fans there so I can tell you the market is there.
Fair point that Arsenal are an actual team with chemistry as opposed to bunch of players from different teams slapped together. That said Arsenal are clearly much better. It’s not like the result was unfair.
I’ve watched a lot of MLS matches recently, but I’m also a Sheffield Wednesday fan so I watched league one last season. Most of the MLS teams would struggle against sides like Cheltenham and Lincoln.
@@martyfakenewsman101 yeah they’d struggle but this comment is making it seem like Cheltenham and Lincoln are better teams than MLS teams. Which is just completely stupid
@@alexjacobs8618 they beat an Everton team with a large number of U23 players in one preseason game. That proves nothing. MLS teams WOULD struggle in league one, no doubt.
The result is irrelevant tbh...Its a pre-season freindly... But if you really want good attention on the MLS you need to create a Great team in the MLS who dominate the MLS with star players... Smashing teams 4-0, 5-1... With the star player scoring hat-tricks.... Then Europe will take notice and say.. Wow look at that team... How would they do in the Prem ir UCL?... Will they beat Real Madrid in the Club world cup?
MLS cant even win the CONCACAF Champions League. I agree with what you say but thats going to take a long time even if Messi is in the All Star game the mls has to get use to Messis way of playing. Hopefully they learn from him quick
@@Pako_equis The salary cap/draft system is a huge disadvantage for the MLS's growth..... It works in the NBA & NFL because the players don't have a choice.... But in MLS they are competing with hundreds of soccer leagues... The only way you get outside attention is if you have the best players/best teams.... So at the moment its still just domestic growth.... But getting high profile people like Rooney as manager and Beckham as owner helps a lot.... I would pack the MLS full of high profile names in management positions and general manage positions.... I followed Montreal a bit... Purely because Henry was manager...
I think that that would not work in the US. MLS is always in the balance which makes it a generally more entertaining league and allows for quick growth
@@doctorpest1743 In my opinion that balance makes it boring to foreign audiences because you have a dilution of talent..... It works for domestic growth.... Because all your individual States feel involved.... But in terms of outside interest you need to create a few teams that are special.... Thats why England etc watch Real Madrid & Barca.... They dont watch Girona & Sevilla... No-one cares about most teams in La Liga...They want to see the magic, the dominance of Real Madrid etc... They want to see history being made... No-one would want to see Messi being drafted to play for Rayo Vallecano to keep the league 'fair'... I get the system... But it does stop there being a concentration of talent in one team which creates great performances...
@@doctorpest1743I really think soccer is more popular in the US than people realize. The MLS doesn’t need to keep it competitive in order to build up a fan base. They have to acknowledge that there is an American fan base…. That prefers the European system. If they switched to relegation/promotion and killed the salary cap next year I can almost promise you more people would care.
Some sound comments here regarding Arsenal as a team however an additional point is that an football all star team is NOT equivalent to a basketball all star team. Team chemistry and cohesion integral to footballing success. A premier league all star team would struggle vs any top 6 Premier league team.
Fr though, we all knew they were average, that why I’m surprised that Americans were shocked about the Scoreline of the game😂 Cus what do y’all expect to happen?? 😂💔
These guys need some kind of..... media training, to teach them how to not interrupt one another. Do they not realise this is being broadcast?? It's more like 4 half cut ppl down the pub all trying to shout their point across.
"mls has enough talent for east vs west" lol joke of the year a single prem club destroyed the combine mls stars 5-0, imagine if europe came with eu allstars 🤣🤣🤣🤣
We all know that a group of top talent and no team cohesion vs a team of solid talent with really great strategy, the TEAM will win. The MLS guys don’t know each other and aren’t a team. Just a collection of talented players.
the real fun thing about the real football match is not the show or the skill challenge.. it's about how you win a football match.. different strategies, pressing, how difficult it is to score a goal and the drama.. also the ref's decisions in crucial moments.. or how angry we are when opposition players tackle our players, etc.. it's competitive.. it's not fun when a player just want to dribble his way through everybody and then lose possession many times.. and the game ends 0-0 just because both teams play with no plans and just rely on individual skills..
A really serious point here. Football (and the term is important and part of the point I’m going to make here) is not a US dominated or indeed sport. It has its history that goes back a very long time outside of the United States. Stop calling it Soccer. It’s football. Stop using US sport terms when discussing or commenting on this sport. Respect the game, it’s history, origins and fan base by acknowledging the sport for the most successful global sport it is. Stop trying to make it NBA, NFL or MLB. It’s not. It is Football. In the same way the rest of the world does not attempt to ‘localise’ those sports. Stop with the showbiz, terminology changes that have existed for over a century or more and make it some sort of US sport. If you guys do that, then maybe it will become more successful and the MLS won’t be seen by ageing professional football players from Europe (mainly) looking at it like a retirement fund and essentially a low level, poor imitation and ultimately a US version of the global sport. It is not a game for the US to change. The sooner the US recognises this and stops with the showbiz parts ;which works well for your sports) the better and sooner the MLS will become a serious league that attracts and develops younger players.
People think “wow this is the BEST MLS has to offer” but it’s actually very misleading and I agree it’s potentially harmful to the mls image. They should maybe consider not doing the Allstar game to be honest. It was a lot of fun for me as an arsenal fan and it’s kind of a fun thing to see the best mls players out there BUT let’s be honest, a regular MLS team would’ve played a lot better than the “All Star” mls team. It’s hard for people who have never played the sport to understand but a team of a bunch of superstars who have never played together or been coached together is going to do a lot worse than a regular team that has tactics and chemistry.
Interviewing Balogun and calling him “Bukayo Saka”and posting pictures of Aberloa as announcement for Busquets embarrasses the MLS. Not losing to Arsenal.
This doesn't harm MLS's rep.. MLS is growing and they are trying to bring more eyes to the competition. What I think can be don is have a small tournament with MLS teams and European make it a week long or 2 week where you can have a round robin style competition.
US football needs a pyramid with relegation and promotion, which will encourage development of younger players in the ranks which inevitably strengthens the league at the top of the pyramid. Without that you are scouting players too late, Arsenal had Saka from about age 9.
We have a great team, the All-stars are at a disadvantage by being the side that wont take it serious, doesn't have team chemistry and doesn't have many strategies tbh
Hasnt affected MLS reputation. It was expected with that line up for Arsenal to win. Score 5 and its the players understanding of the tactics Arteta is using.
Honestly nobody that follows football properly consider the MLS as a challenge. Thus they are a pre season stop for fitness, team building and learning new tactics , etc.
Lol Americans are 2 sensitive. Arsenal played some of the best football in Europe. No one in their right mind expected a hastily thrown together mls team to even put up a fight. That said, this game illustrates the main difference between sports in the US and Europe and why people like toed boehly face push back when they try to bring those crazy ideas.
A better showcase for MLS might be to still hold the skills challenge but then for the top club from the West and East each play a match against a team from Serie A, Eredivesie, Premier League, Bundesliga, etc. Reward the most successful clubs, they earn some revenue and display the quality of the best team not some cobbled together mess of players who are just trying to avoid injury.
11 boys playing in the MIDDLE of their season, I'm assuming at the peak of their performance levels vs 11 men who are coming out of their summer break, getting match fitness and taking the game seriously. It wasn't an even playing field. They should probably face a Saudi League all star team next time, leave the 'friendly' games to European teams that tour the USA so the American fans can watch their favorite EU teams play in the flesh. There's levels to this game. #COYG
Its a catch 22. You need a name like Arsenal to promote the event. But its never going to be competitive. The level is different and the MLS team have 2 days to play with each other. I think the skills challenge makes a ton of sense but maybe have two top European teams play each other. Then an East vs West all star game.
I think the better thing to do is for preseason European teams to face MLS teams not all stars. The teams are more cohesive and give better competition. I remember Arsenal played an MLS team last year and it was more competitive to the point there was talk of Arsenal buying one of the opposition team's player.
No news. They make it sound like a team that’s been created in weeks and not played together is going to play well against a completely coherent team that practices together.
I think MLS All-Star players played together for the first time. To find out the real quality of MLS, make the best MLS team play against the best EPL team
Also you have to remember it’s an All Stars team who don’t play together regularly against an close knit Arsenal side , like they literally don’t have the same chemistry
It would've been an even larger beatdown if MLS played Man City, Real Madrid, Barcelona, Sevilla, AC Milan, Napoli or Bayern Munich. Consider the 5-0 as a light-hearted friendly we'll all forget; Arsenal wasn't at their best either otherwise it would've been worse. MLS is at Championship level at best, any Premier League side would beat the MLS all stars and that's even teams like Brighton, Fulham, Aston Villa, Brentford, Crystal Palace etc.
It would have been more competitive if they played the best team in MLS. All-star teams have very little time to train together or build any relationships on the pitch.
We made 10 subs and a lot players who never played before, our main starting IX came off and lots of new players who never played 90mins before played that game… It was never competitive
Who's the winey guy? Jeesh... You wanna go up against the best to showcase how far you've come/need to go. You guys keep bragging in all the sports you play that you're best in the world but don't invite anyone else to play. At least in Football you're being kept honest.
they just signed Mahrez and are already moving on Saint Maximin. Saudi all-stars already have the level to compete in the UCL, dunno what they're excited about?
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Arsenal has one of the top 2 most valuable squads in football . They are an elite football team . No shame in losing to them .
After the addition of Timber and Rice, Arsenal FC has the most valuable squad in world football
@@Nedohh It won’t be after we sell some players. Balogun Cedric etc will be sold
Being the most expensive doesnt mean youre the best. I bet arsenal couldnt even beat best south american teams...
Hahah you got jokes
@@itsconsul3346what are you smoking!? I want some of that.
If you wanted a team to treat the game as an 'event' then any Arteta team is not suitable. As said, Arteta is not messing around and neither will his players. Every game for Arsenal is an audition to stake a place in a highly competitive team. Most teams are not up to the challenge when Arsenal click, don't take it personally...
Nail on the head, they should get a mid table team maybe.. but tbh even Brighton would have whooped them
@@merciemodemerciemode3130 should've been Luton lol
I take that as a compliment for 1 FC Nürnberg
@@Its_Croaker We barely even tried against nurnberg... we played them often theirs nothing to prove mutual respect though.
exactly...selecting Arsenal was one of the worst decisions...Teta prides himself on strong pre seasons...with a hungry talented team
It actually felt like arsenal were playing in 2nd gear,I honestly think the score could have been much worse if they wanted it
arsenal literally beat teams 5-0 in the prem, no shame in losing to them
Arsenal played like it was a friendly, they wasn’t full blast as nothing was to play for so it’s a fair score!
Did you watch the game? Arsenal was way more serious than MLS all stars
@@doctorpest1743 we didn’t take it serious did u see our starting 11 if we took it serious from the start we could’ve definitely doubled the score
@@doctorpest1743no u wrong 😂😂😂
Literally, our third goalkeeper was in goal in the second half, and changes were made to all players. 😄
What is this question? No all star team has ever been good. It’s a bunch of players thrown together from different teams under a manager that’s never coached them before. What did you expect?
And it wasn’t even the best players in the MLS. A ton of the best players weren’t included
Exactly! I’d rather an East vs West MLS All star game or vs another all star team of some sort
The same can be said about Arsenal as there were many players who've never played together or in the positions they played yesterday.
@@ChiChi-jg1ch Exactly Arsenal had a 16 or 17 year old playing at some point. many players were not in their normal positions you can even say Arsenal were just testing tactics lol
Facts
Most MLS teams couldn't compete in the championship never mind the premier league
Two MLS teams beat Prem teams last summer
@@RomeDCarlo mid season teams vs teams in preseason integrating new players and systems, they're not the same.
@@RomeDCarlo Charlotte FC equalised against Chelsea with a penalty in the 92nd minute and went on to win 5-3 on penalties.
A midseason game for Charlotte a preseason game for Chelsea who used 21 players throughout the game. Hardly a match for comparisons.
EPL teams win these matches more often than not. If any EPL team in preseason came and played a Championship team that was at mid season levels of fitness it would be embarrassing for the Championship team to get beaten.
@@RomeDCarlobecause for the mls team it is a huge game and a chance to prove themselves - for the premier league team it is literally their holiday. if the best mls team came up against a hungry Arsenal last season its 12-0
You mean league 2
The unfortunate truth for the MLS, is that Arsenal actually were conscious it was a friendly, and weren’t anywhere near full capacity. If Arsenal turned up the heat to maximum, it could have ended ten goals to nothing, five was a good score for the MLS.
Is he crying that Arsenal are bullying the Mls 🤣🤣🤣
He’s actually making a really good point tbh. If MLS is bringing teams like arsenal, MAN U etc to make MLS more popular and MLS best players are getting beat 5-0. It says a lot about the league. It does not help the rest of the world take the league seriously.
@@CapitanBlitz especially after the whole MLS vs Saudi League topic 🤦♂️
Yeah it makes more sense like he said, they should do it like the NBA does Eastern conference vs Western conference
@@bryane727 I mean it’s a good marketing strategy to bring foreign clubs, but they need to try and find a foreign club that can make an exciting match for 90min. Not one of the best teams in the world lol. MLS team had one shot on target against arsenal in the whole game, that is not exciting.
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Arsenal would destroy most top teams in europe as well. They are an elite football team now . They are playing like a top 5 team in europe
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😂😂😂 You'll see next season how silly that comment is. The last time they played against the best of Europe they got beat 10-2 over 2 games 😂😂. It'll be the same next season.
@@danmac9630that comment is going to come back to bite him in a few months. Destroy most teams in Europe 😂😂 I'm sure I remember Bayern destroying them 10-2.
@@darreno2428wow didn’t know this is the same team that played bayern in 2016. This is the most valuable team in the world. You salty fans are afraid that arsenal are back and their in your head rent free🤣🤣🤣🤣🤡🤡🤡🤡
@@darreno2428 Do you not understand what the word "most" means? It means NOT ALL. Teams like Bayern, Madrid etc are the exception.
Losing to Arsenal doesn’t make mls look bad Arsenal are one of the best teams in the world they can do that to almost anyone
yeah but my god the MLS "all stars" played soooooo badly.. terrible shooting, kicking the ball into the stands, passing was horrible too, it was like amateur level passing.. if anything MLS needs to play against European clubs more because the standards are still so low.
@@johnd3124MLS all star team doesn't play together on a regular basis like Arsenal
@@christopheryoung2874yes bit is the ALL STARS they look amateur
its true they did that to most of the PL teams last season and even the bottom PL teams would still beat MLS all stars. to put It into perspective even further arsenal didn't play their strongest 11 from start to finish and they were also not fully fit this is only their 2nd pre season game they've been on vacation for the last 6 weeks. so MLS should not feel embarrassed its arsenal
They beat wolves 5-0 in their last game competitive game, that's a proper side in a competitive match. This is a bunch of guy who came together 5min before ko
Arteta is not going send his players to pull skills on the field. This is to cement the system, the plays needed to win.
Dont be too down on MLS ...Arsenal would that to many European teams this season.
MLS reputation is already considered a laughing stock from Europe, the idea of an "All-star team" taking 11 of the league's best players and throwing them together for a 1 off game against an actual team with cohesion and one of the best teams across Europe last year in Arsenal, what do you actually expect
Todd Bohley ideas
what people dont understand. is there may possibly be more EPL fans in the united states than MLS fans. arsenal is a worldwide powerhouse. i live for EPL preseason tours in america. and its no shame to lose a preseason game to anyone.
keep making the MLS all star game a friendly against european powerhouses that people in the US dont generally get to see.
Yes, I noticed that 90% of fans in the stadium were Arsenal fans, it was a home game and the MLS players were the away team! Arsenal FC love and embrace their global fan base.
Arsenal took the game more seriously and yet it was MLS that had over 5 yellow cards from unnecessary tackles. It's not about who took the game more seriously, it's about the quality! (same reason why Bayern won 27 - 0 the other day) Trust me, Arsenal didn't even take that game seriously the way they would on a normal day.
Why not give the chance for the mls champion to play teams like arsenal . They would have more cohesion
Ridiculous question.
Why do yall underestimate Arsenal so much?
League bottlers 🍼
@@kingdarwin8953 he's a little boy still new to football. Don't take him serious
@@fidel425 You said that about the CL the year before. Keep saying it...and brace yourself
@@fidel425stfu u healthcare paying prick. watch what arsenal do next season.
Underestimating? No they just don’t want to get bullied every year by Arsenal
Its the a Premier League for a reason, its the fiercest competition, going toe toe to toe with teams like Man City, Arsenal, Liverpool over 38 games, is now, i believe, harder than winning the Champions League. Atleast on a one off game in the Champions league you can get a shock result against say Man City, but over 38 games the best team will always win.
What reputation?
Rooney said it best: you can’t just throw a bunch of guys together in short notice and tell them “figure it out”. Arsenal have chemistry, they’re an actual unit.
Arsenal literally threw a bunch of guys together and figured it out though.🤔😆
@@ChiChi-jg1chnah I’m an Arsenal fan but that’s not the same most of these players have never even played together and have only trained once word each other
@@ChiChi-jg1chare you daft?
Arteta and his Arsenal will probably have more US fans and followers after this. Good for our beloved Gunners. May we have this exhibition every year.
They'd do better setting up a small tournament, 4-6 teams total, 3 MLS and invite 3 teams from around the world (not PL teams). Teams from Brasil, Turkey etc. That level were MLS teams can compete
Or copy what the NHL does and have 4 mini all star teams that compete in a tournament against each other in one night
Then no one’s watching. The whole reason this MLS AllStar nonsense gets any traction is because of top clubs coming to play them
@micahj5881 you might be right. I for one would rather see competitive matches between MLS and teams from more equivalent leagues. But that's me.
@@khalilshahyd9063 I mean maybe you would rather mate, but for me as an Arsenal fan i couldn't care less to watch MLS vs Besiktas. MLS has a good thing going tbh, to raise the level of their league they have to play with the best. There's a reason why Premier league teams are winning a lot of European competitions now, they play on a highest level in their own league.
Just stick with the MLS All Stars vs Liga MX All Stars or like they said a Saudi All Star squad but bringing in the top Premiere League teams is not it.
If we think about the MLS as a development league for European sides, then it makes sense to have MLS all-stars play against the top European clubs to show if any of the players could legitimately compete in Europe. Obviously, we've had players like DeAndre Yedlin, Matt Turner, and Clint Dempsey start in the MLS and successfully play in Europe afterward. But if we're trying to be on par with the Premier League, Serie A, or the Bundesliga, then the East vs. West thing makes sense...but no one legitimately looks at the MLS as competition for top European sides at the point, so they should keep the current format.
It's more a development league for Mexican sides
I don't think this says much about where the MLS is in comparison to the Premier League, cause even PL teams can barely keep up with Arsenal. I think they should be playing West Ham or others near them in the table, and that would really give you an idea of where the MLS stands in terms of quality.
I'm an Arsenal fan and I get what the argument is but it is a skill difference and not an embarrassing result tbh, the MLS is still growing a lot and so is Arsenal. Arsenal are right now in a position to defend the fact that apparently on paper they somehow have the most expensive team in the world right now for some reason.
No shame honestly but if you have Benteke as your all star in 2023 you truly can't expect much tbh, I believe those players are in different teams and just joining to play together for a week or two. It's not that big a deal
No shame in losing to the best team in the premier league
“I fell asleep after two zero” TWO NIL my friend explains everything wrong with the MLS
Two zero, soccer, “scored a shot”, “
Even just the way they speak shows they don’t care enough for the sport itself
The two goals were absolute worldies and he 'fell asleep'. SMH
Also kept sneaking in basketball comparisons which just goes to show how they prioritise showbiz over real sport.
Arsenal fan here - tbh, I don't think it is an embarrassment to lose to THIS Arsenal team. Our team has been meticulously built over a 4 year period. It is one of the top 2 teams in England, and probably Europe. This is a team built to compete with a juggernaut in Man City. MLS team was thrown together in what, a couple of weeks?
This was a good testing ground for MLS teams, fans and the league's executives to understand the fact that the league still has a long way to go in terms of tactics, recruitment, coaching and how serious they are willing to take the development of the MLS. Seeing this gap in quality between them and this Arsenal team hopefully should make the people running the MLS and the the respective teams want to get better. I get that this is a team assembled in a short period of time argument but if the same was flipped and it was the PL- all stars or the Serie A all stars playing against the MLS All stars - I bet the score would've been way worse. It is not a matter of feeling defeated or claiming that it is unfair to have a fixture in the first place, Arsenal would do this to any team in the world bar Man City. Ain't no shame in being one of them.
No one gives a damn. Stupid idea from the start. Can't just throw some players together and expect them to beat a team. That's not how football on this level works.
Exactly and they’re facing a team that came 2nd in the best league in the world and they really think they have any chance of winning Arsenal didn’t even play their best players for majority of the match and when they did they automatically dominated the game
I think a game like this perfectly shows that the MLS still has plenty of growing to do.
It was cute, they were parading around their leagues best players and then they got ripped apart by an Arsenal team that still had several more gears to go. Even listening to some of the commentators praising Arsenal for ”looking sharp” just shows the difference clearly, I thought Arsenal looked like they had more gears to go through and made some sloppy mistakes.
we were very sloppy in defence, we do that against City we concede at least 3
As an Arsenal fan, we’re a top team at the moment playing a game against a squad made up of players who don’t play together.
I think the reason the MLS hasn't improved is because they're trying to change the sport with asinine things like "Skills Challenge", East vs West, Bringing things that are not naturally in football to make it "entertaining". If the MLS want a league that will excite viewers, make it more competitive. Take it seriously. And for God's sake, Don't try to Americanise the sport. Americans love European football as it is. We have a lot of Arsenal fans there so I can tell you the market is there.
Fair point that Arsenal are an actual team with chemistry as opposed to bunch of players from different teams slapped together. That said Arsenal are clearly much better. It’s not like the result was unfair.
Not really considering Arsenals team is worth 1.3 billion , the most expensive in the world atm
most valuable not expensive
Valuable*
Valuable is different from expensive bro. Educate yourself
Its not just Arsenal lol, its the entire premier league that's a cut above the MLS
@@sumanth-xd6nz valuable or expensive, I’m saying the gap is clearly evident in skill level
I’ve watched a lot of MLS matches recently, but I’m also a Sheffield Wednesday fan so I watched league one last season. Most of the MLS teams would struggle against sides like Cheltenham and Lincoln.
Oh come off it. By that logic Everyon should be a league two club. They lost 4-0 to Minnesota United, a team that was created in 2017
@@alexjacobs8618the lower english leagues are tough as hell. if u put every prem footballer back in the efl, so many would struggle
@@martyfakenewsman101 yeah they’d struggle but this comment is making it seem like Cheltenham and Lincoln are better teams than MLS teams. Which is just completely stupid
@@alexjacobs8618 they beat an Everton team with a large number of U23 players in one preseason game. That proves nothing. MLS teams WOULD struggle in league one, no doubt.
AGREED... this is a fact the MLS are unaware of...☝🏾🤔
The way the MLS team went into tackles showed that they wanted to win. Arsenal just have superior quality.
This game is all fun and has no bearing on mls reputation. The nr 1 problem with mls is the lack of competiton since there is no relegation system.
That Saudi vs MLS All-star game needs to happen next yr.
The result is irrelevant tbh...Its a pre-season freindly... But if you really want good attention on the MLS you need to create a Great team in the MLS who dominate the MLS with star players... Smashing teams 4-0, 5-1... With the star player scoring hat-tricks.... Then Europe will take notice and say.. Wow look at that team... How would they do in the Prem ir UCL?... Will they beat Real Madrid in the Club world cup?
MLS cant even win the CONCACAF Champions League. I agree with what you say but thats going to take a long time even if Messi is in the All Star game the mls has to get use to Messis way of playing. Hopefully they learn from him quick
@@Pako_equis The salary cap/draft system is a huge disadvantage for the MLS's growth..... It works in the NBA & NFL because the players don't have a choice.... But in MLS they are competing with hundreds of soccer leagues... The only way you get outside attention is if you have the best players/best teams.... So at the moment its still just domestic growth.... But getting high profile people like Rooney as manager and Beckham as owner helps a lot.... I would pack the MLS full of high profile names in management positions and general manage positions.... I followed Montreal a bit... Purely because Henry was manager...
I think that that would not work in the US. MLS is always in the balance which makes it a generally more entertaining league and allows for quick growth
@@doctorpest1743 In my opinion that balance makes it boring to foreign audiences because you have a dilution of talent..... It works for domestic growth.... Because all your individual States feel involved.... But in terms of outside interest you need to create a few teams that are special.... Thats why England etc watch Real Madrid & Barca.... They dont watch Girona & Sevilla... No-one cares about most teams in La Liga...They want to see the magic, the dominance of Real Madrid etc... They want to see history being made... No-one would want to see Messi being drafted to play for Rayo Vallecano to keep the league 'fair'... I get the system... But it does stop there being a concentration of talent in one team which creates great performances...
@@doctorpest1743I really think soccer is more popular in the US than people realize. The MLS doesn’t need to keep it competitive in order to build up a fan base. They have to acknowledge that there is an American fan base…. That prefers the European system. If they switched to relegation/promotion and killed the salary cap next year I can almost promise you more people would care.
As an arsenal fan , you cant conpete with a team that has four or five years together with randoms from different teams,
Some sound comments here regarding Arsenal as a team however an additional point is that an football all star team is NOT equivalent to a basketball all star team. Team chemistry and cohesion integral to footballing success. A premier league all star team would struggle vs any top 6 Premier league team.
Maybe damages it in the US but to the rest of the world MLS is what we thought it was
Fr though, we all knew they were average, that why I’m surprised that Americans were shocked about the Scoreline of the game😂
Cus what do y’all expect to happen?? 😂💔
@@factos667facts😂😂 it’s not a surprise outside US
They are who we thought they were??? 😯
These guys need some kind of..... media training, to teach them how to not interrupt one another. Do they not realise this is being broadcast?? It's more like 4 half cut ppl down the pub all trying to shout their point across.
This guy brings the wrong energy for a morning show. Chill dude. Smile once in a while.
MLS is lucky Arsenal even agreed to play them.
The fact that this guy keeps talking about the NBA says it all
"mls has enough talent for east vs west" lol joke of the year a single prem club destroyed the combine mls stars 5-0, imagine if europe came with eu allstars 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Arsenal have the most valuable team in the world 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Saudi All Stars would probably win 5-0 too 😔
Shocking that a team that had 2 days to train together didn't perform well against one of the worlds best teams.
Losing 5-0 to arsenal was even respectable
We all know that a group of top talent and no team cohesion vs a team of solid talent with really great strategy, the TEAM will win. The MLS guys don’t know each other and aren’t a team. Just a collection of talented players.
the real fun thing about the real football match is not the show or the skill challenge.. it's about how you win a football match.. different strategies, pressing, how difficult it is to score a goal and the drama.. also the ref's decisions in crucial moments.. or how angry we are when opposition players tackle our players, etc.. it's competitive.. it's not fun when a player just want to dribble his way through everybody and then lose possession many times.. and the game ends 0-0 just because both teams play with no plans and just rely on individual skills..
A really serious point here. Football (and the term is important and part of the point I’m going to make here) is not a US dominated or indeed sport. It has its history that goes back a very long time outside of the United States. Stop calling it Soccer. It’s football. Stop using US sport terms when discussing or commenting on this sport. Respect the game, it’s history, origins and fan base by acknowledging the sport for the most successful global sport it is. Stop trying to make it NBA, NFL or MLB. It’s not. It is Football. In the same way the rest of the world does not attempt to ‘localise’ those sports. Stop with the showbiz, terminology changes that have existed for over a century or more and make it some sort of US sport. If you guys do that, then maybe it will become more successful and the MLS won’t be seen by ageing professional football players from Europe (mainly) looking at it like a retirement fund and essentially a low level, poor imitation and ultimately a US version of the global sport. It is not a game for the US to change. The sooner the US recognises this and stops with the showbiz parts ;which works well for your sports) the better and sooner the MLS will become a serious league that attracts and develops younger players.
The guy on the left sounds like he doesnt understand football at all.
People think “wow this is the BEST MLS has to offer” but it’s actually very misleading and I agree it’s potentially harmful to the mls image. They should maybe consider not doing the Allstar game to be honest. It was a lot of fun for me as an arsenal fan and it’s kind of a fun thing to see the best mls players out there BUT let’s be honest, a regular MLS team would’ve played a lot better than the “All Star” mls team. It’s hard for people who have never played the sport to understand but a team of a bunch of superstars who have never played together or been coached together is going to do a lot worse than a regular team that has tactics and chemistry.
Arsenal wasn’t even playing extremely competitive. They were having fun . The MLS isn’t there as far as levels respectively
The truth about the poor quality of play in MLS can not be hidden, and that is the perpetual problem.
Arsenal never got out of second gear
mind you this team is just warming up, imagine playing it when Arsenal are firing on all cylinders 😂
Interviewing Balogun and calling him “Bukayo Saka”and posting pictures of Aberloa as announcement for Busquets embarrasses the MLS. Not losing to Arsenal.
Exactly and Balogun is an American player 😂
This is too funny one of the analysts admitting he only saw two goals
This doesn't harm MLS's rep.. MLS is growing and they are trying to bring more eyes to the competition. What I think can be don is have a small tournament with MLS teams and European make it a week long or 2 week where you can have a round robin style competition.
The problem is with an "All star" team is that they have to play really basic because they don't have the experience playing with each other
US football needs a pyramid with relegation and promotion, which will encourage development of younger players in the ranks which inevitably strengthens the league at the top of the pyramid. Without that you are scouting players too late, Arsenal had Saka from about age 9.
Will never happen. With these owners.
USL is introducing reg/pro soon will develop better talent then mls soon
It def has reduced the reputation of mls without doubt, they will always be the training ground for these stronger european clubs
We have a great team, the All-stars are at a disadvantage by being the side that wont take it serious, doesn't have team chemistry and doesn't have many strategies tbh
Hasnt affected MLS reputation. It was expected with that line up for Arsenal to win. Score 5 and its the players understanding of the tactics Arteta is using.
The guy in the left kinda started talking nonsense after some time
Honestly nobody that follows football properly consider the MLS as a challenge. Thus they are a pre season stop for fitness, team building and learning new tactics , etc.
And this is why they’re so hurt because Arsenal didn’t come out of 2nd gear all while getting up to speed with fitness.
Lol Americans are 2 sensitive. Arsenal played some of the best football in Europe. No one in their right mind expected a hastily thrown together mls team to even put up a fight. That said, this game illustrates the main difference between sports in the US and Europe and why people like toed boehly face push back when they try to bring those crazy ideas.
A better showcase for MLS might be to still hold the skills challenge but then for the top club from the West and East each play a match against a team from Serie A, Eredivesie, Premier League, Bundesliga, etc. Reward the most successful clubs, they earn some revenue and display the quality of the best team not some cobbled together mess of players who are just trying to avoid injury.
11 boys playing in the MIDDLE of their season, I'm assuming at the peak of their performance levels vs 11 men who are coming out of their summer break, getting match fitness and taking the game seriously. It wasn't an even playing field. They should probably face a Saudi League all star team next time, leave the 'friendly' games to European teams that tour the USA so the American fans can watch their favorite EU teams play in the flesh.
There's levels to this game.
#COYG
With all due respect no one cares about MLS besides Americans so i dont think any reputation has been tainted, there wasnt any to start with.
You can't just put up top players together in one team without proper coaching and expect to win😂
Arsenal weren't even playing in first gear so the scoreline actually flattered MLS All-Stars 😂
Its a catch 22. You need a name like Arsenal to promote the event. But its never going to be competitive. The level is different and the MLS team have 2 days to play with each other. I think the skills challenge makes a ton of sense but maybe have two top European teams play each other. Then an East vs West all star game.
Say you're salty without trying to say you're salty. 🤡
"Did you all train?" "No, we did do some head tennis tho" And MLS Wonder why average *FOOTBALL* Fan isn't interested in MLS you are a joke league
An all star team never has the chemistry of a proper team. You can't take anything from this.
They are so embarrassed I love it
Be nice🤭🤭🤣🤣
I think the better thing to do is for preseason European teams to face MLS teams not all stars. The teams are more cohesive and give better competition. I remember Arsenal played an MLS team last year and it was more competitive to the point there was talk of Arsenal buying one of the opposition team's player.
No news. They make it sound like a team that’s been created in weeks and not played together is going to play well against a completely coherent team that practices together.
I think MLS All-Star players played together for the first time. To find out the real quality of MLS, make the best MLS team play against the best EPL team
The will be massacred by CITY any day 😂✌️
@@factos667 At least we'd know the real quality of MLS best team with that method 😁
MLS All-stars is a fun concept but in practice, it's extremely hard to get the tactics right etc
Cmon now u didn't really expect to beat us 😂😂😂
We really, what position did you play?
@@JJ-nu8qi on the bench
@@Starretsmediaman is so bugged he turned into a Karen. 😂
@@jigmewangchuk4085 I'm a big black gyy and a bully...so I'm allergic to karens
Also you have to remember it’s an All Stars team who don’t play together regularly against an close knit Arsenal side , like they literally don’t have the same chemistry
Come On You Gunners!
It would've been an even larger beatdown if MLS played Man City, Real Madrid, Barcelona, Sevilla, AC Milan, Napoli or Bayern Munich. Consider the 5-0 as a light-hearted friendly we'll all forget; Arsenal wasn't at their best either otherwise it would've been worse. MLS is at Championship level at best, any Premier League side would beat the MLS all stars and that's even teams like Brighton, Fulham, Aston Villa, Brentford, Crystal Palace etc.
Can you imagine what Man City would have done to them...?
@@cpaps85009-0 and that’s if pep tell them to play casual
It would have been more competitive if they played the best team in MLS. All-star teams have very little time to train together or build any relationships on the pitch.
An all star team idea makes no sense. You cant just lump a bunch of players together and expect them to be able to play
We made 10 subs and a lot players who never played before, our main starting IX came off and lots of new players who never played 90mins before played that game…
It was never competitive
Who's the winey guy? Jeesh... You wanna go up against the best to showcase how far you've come/need to go. You guys keep bragging in all the sports you play that you're best in the world but don't invite anyone else to play. At least in Football you're being kept honest.
Typical Americans crying because they aren't competitive so they want to change the rules of the game
They do not want Saudi allstars either 😂 Benzema, Ronaldo, Kante, Neves, Koulibaly, Jota, Firminho, Fofana… I could continue 😂😂😂
I would actually watch that 😂
they just signed Mahrez and are already moving on Saint Maximin. Saudi all-stars already have the level to compete in the UCL, dunno what they're excited about?
Arsenal are just too good.
Whats sad is arsenal was playing at 50%😱