That is how I judge experts. If they answer question after question accurately, but occasionally say "I don't know" I instantly trust them more than the guy I've never seen say "I don't know." It takes a certain type of person to say they don't know when discussing something they are experts on.
Same. He seems to be popping up everywhere lately, maybe due to the relevance of his expertise in air defense. Definitely glad to see it, and thankful he can correct all of this misinformation about a complex topic.
He’s been on and off as feature guest! Glad to see him back! ❤ SO SO much better than horrible Willy dude…who’s fake AF and tries to disingenuously “both sides” everything. Ugh. I literally avoid ANY upload involving Willy! Which is too bad because I tend to get less suggested clips from this channel when I do shut out the Willy nonsense…would much rather see the Habitual Line Crosser on!
The collabs keep coming . First Ryan McBeth and now Habitual Linecrosser. Keep up the good work Preston and really enjoying these convos with these guys you have on . 👍
In 89 I stated college on a Military base, Lit 101, I wrote a Combat drone story, imitating todays issues, the class was quick to shot the technology down. A+ prof....
Now, in 2023, it is not at all difficult to imagine a central AI, that all top field experts report to, allowing all specialty experts to query the AI for perspective on any development in that field. Making what used to be a much, more narrow and very deep understanding of one field, a very deeply learned specialty, with effectively a much, much wider capability of instant access to the very wide expert knowledge base that a central AI could give. It might give scientific development a larger advantage, than the internet did for commonplace communication. Rather than countless pages of information that might be incorrect, it could be a quick query, and a simple, but very precise and accurate answer, with the perspective of every top researcher in every field… and then we can apply that to anything else that you can imagine would benefit from central communication.
So damn glad to see Habitual Linecrosser on the channel. There is no part of national security with more misinformation and disinformation than in Missiles and Missile Defense, and this has been worsened by the "Hypersonic Death Missile" rhetoric that has grown in recent years. Habitual has really done some good by injecting some truth into this space. He's also one of the funniest people on the internet and so he deserves some recognition for sure.
One of the best informative videos I have seen on this subject specifically and best on any military subject generally. The way you both present is engaging for the listener, you could have gone on for an other hour on the subject. Thank you both.
Whenever people think of wars, they need to remember that your enemy is never dumb. You might be able to exploit a blindspot temporarily, but they will adapt. Bad guys aren't dumb, just bad.
Well, unless they are Russia entering Ukraine. Or a certain N. Korean dictator threatening the US with like 2 nuclear weapons who "never poops." Then they are dumb and bad. 🤣
It's kind of baffling we haven't just hucked a few tac nukes into N. Korea and just "fixed," that humanitarian crisis yet. Edit: I am obviously joking.
But to be fair, if a small adversary had just spent the last decade training with an elite fighting force, say, the british, on how to fight...there is NO WAY we would pack our victory uniforms instead of food or ammo. That is just DUMB.
11:37 But SR 71 never flew over the Soviet Union (because the 1970 spy satellite had been found) so it was never tested against the Soviet Union Air Defense System like a U2 plane that was shot down.
I might be wrong, but due to altitude and the rise of satellite that the YF/SRs could perform recon without direct oversight. I thought that the timeliness based on film technology at the time, was driven by NRO focuses?
The way you two explain and analyze stuff is amazing. HLC is an Air Defence nerd, that knows what he's talking about and at the same time is humble about what he doesnt know. Great technical explanations and he is a master at ELI5 of super advanced stuff. Maybe thats why he teaches this subject? 😅 Preston just has some of the best analytic and researching skills on social media. Complete honesty about his own level of knowledge, and very adamant about the importance of critical thinking in the fog of war and shroud of propaganda. Couple this with smooth and calm presentations and brilliant technical deliverance and you've got one of the best "war correspondents" on social media, even tho he does it from the comfort of his own home. Which just makes it that more impressive.
Absolutely fantastic interview, great questions and an actual expert giving answers. I didn't think he had a great answer to the question of how to counter lots of cheap drones at the front lines but that's admittedly out of his area of expertise and maybe more a question for defense contractors like Palmer Luckey.
Two of my favorites collaborating for an informative and eye-opening piece on air defense.... What more could I ask for? 😉👍 I'm pretty sure I speak for a sizeable chunk of the viewership when I say you could probably do another video or two and maintain the interest and clicks (if not exceed them outright)... Good work, thanks for this one... Keep 'em comin'! 💪🤙
F*CKIN LOVE Habitual Line Crosser channel!!! (just finished watching) Every single one of Preston's questions all have some smart thought and depth to each question. Which makes every one of these very interesting and knowledgeable! Thank you!! Edit: Preston Stewart, Habitual Line Crosser, and Fat Electrician..... The only three channels you'll ever need for military knowledge!! 😁👍🏻
Awesome work buddy, always look forward to seeing content coming from you. Hope this gets the kiddo a scoop of ice cream 🍦 cause a cool dude like you, is probably an even better father Always look forward to seeing your work.
@@PrestonStewart 20:00 whether India, Africa, Brazil , china like Russia to attack Ukraine (of course not) but if Russia loses. then the world will be lost in the grip of western colonialism. where western powers will again colonize other countries. NATO is not to defense eropa but occupation and attacking other continent. Nato attack Iraq, Syria, Libya and Serbia and caused civil war. NATO must be contain. The Southern Hemisphere needs Russia to prevent American domination
I thought about it many times and what i thought of is nightmarish.. I imagined swarms of miniature, few centimeter long drones carrying a tiny explosive charges that would autonomously fly over the battlefield and search for enemy soldiers. When they locate them, they would do a kamikaze attacks on them, detonating the small charge. 1 drone would have enough explosives to kill 1 soldier. Imagine swarms of those drones flying over the battlefield, sharing data to other drones and when there would be more soldiers than drones, more would fly to that location. If armoured vehicles were present, the small ones would observe them and call bigger drones for that. If this will actually happen, then all i can say is RIP... To me that sounds million times more scary than anything else. Even tactical nukes on battlefield are less scary than those swarms to me. Lets hope that these things will not be made, or that they will ban them. Or i at least hope that this is a stupid idea i came up with and that it would be too expensive to make, to be worth it. Have you also came up with some nightmarish future weapon? Would love to hear what is the scariest thing you heard/can imagine 😄
Or even scarier stuff. Imagine insect sized drones, something like mosquitos, but instead of sucking blood, they could inject things like botulinum toxin... Its so deadly, that each drone could in theory carry enough to kill thousands. (1 gram of it could in theory kill more than million people when injected)
Lol Ryan Macbeth has been wrong basically abt everything. Remember when he told us Russian artillery barrels would wear out leaving Russia without artillery? Yet here we are.
Really interesting, many thanks for that. It makes sense to attack the pilot, you don’t want them being capable of returning to fly another aircraft. Experienced pilots take longer to train than the aircraft take to make.
I still think the systems similar to Gepard/Shlika with more modern radar is a simple solution for the drone’s . Combine them with electronic defense and you can clean a area. Counter to it will be artillery…
I think the only system being developed is the Rheinemetal SkyNEX system based around a similar rotating breech guns as used on the Gepard (cheetah). This will be a single barrel turret but because the ROF is doubled to 1100 RPM there is no loss in fire power. The Radars on this system are tiny and clearly millimeter wave radar so are designed to be able to deal with swarming drones. Obviously needs the right software too. Ukraine just ordered two of these for 180 million. Don't worry the money is from Germany, given to Ukraine. This is obviously R&D prototype order. The guns can obviously deal with cruise missiles, shahad style drones but critical will be the ability to also deal with also tiny smaller drones. Hensoldt (the makers of the TRML/4D radar used for IRIS-T) have a business with drone detection radar for sporting venues and stadiums so should be in their capability. -The issue with 35mm systems is that they just don't have the range to deal with aircraft or helicopters able to fire anti tanke missiles with 10--15km range. -One way arund thos may be guided ammuntion such as MAD-FIRES. -I suspect SPAAGS with 50. 57 even 76.2mm guns will provide the range needed.
Curious if CRAM and Gepards’s are being used with Norwegian munitions. Entirely not relevant, but I remember when Charlie Murphy said that Rick James was a habitual line stepper. Might just be me, but a West Point Officer and an NCO volunteer is great.
I'm SOOO stoked for this interview! I'm sure I'll be coming back after the video to edit 🙂"edit" Yup, another awesome interview and this one I wasn't expecting at all !
Patriots: An old(-ish) system. Russian missiles: Developed more recently. Russian simps: WaTcH oUr neW MissiLeS OuTClaSs tHe PaTriOt SyStem!!! Reality: America did its usual overengineering a solution to a nonexistent Russian problem that Russia has been hyping up as a real threat. This time, we did this so well that we flipped the order
I know the old Nike Hercules had an SSM mode. The concept was the missile was flown to a point in the sky at the right vector after engine burnout such that missile would follow a basically ballistic trajectory to the ground target.
So from what is saying,that you have to choose wich missiles to take out,is showing that all what it falled on buildings with people wasnt important to protect and they choosed to protect something else.
The CLAWS system is lazer weapon system that Boeing makes for the marines with off the shelf parts. Very cheap to fire. Also certified marine proof. They put in onto a flatbed with disassembling it and ran into powerlines. It was fine.
Glad to know we Jarheads continue to contribute heavily to R&D 😁 We'll keep throwing shit out the back of Birds, beating prototypes to hell, and testing them with, in the wise words of Fat Electrician, crayon-fed fuckery. It seems to work.
The anti-drone question is interesting and I see it going 3 ways: 1) Lasers (like the Iron Beam you mentioned) are extremely effective in the short range, but lasers are only effective within a certain distance before the atmosphere renders them ineffective 2) Electronic countermeasures could be a really powerful tool against drones. Using EM waves to disrupt them is effective, but requires more development; the same goes for hacking drones, taking control over them or crashing them. 3) Counter-drones are a great option, but likely the most technologically complicated. If the enemy is running drones in a battlefield, you can run your own drone-hunting drones to take them out with either a short-range explosive charge, or even potentially a shotgun blast. This requires the development of drones that are fast enough to intercept enemy drones, with radar systems that can reliably locate small drones to be marked for destruction.
1st and 2nd are the only real practical options, especially the first. EW is phenomenal against quadcopters but once you’re dealing with something autonomous, unless you have EW that will literally fry circuit boards you can’t do anything. DEWs (lasers mostly) are just a phenomenal anti-drone weapon period. Zero cost, high reliability, few moving parts. Short range doesn’t really matter with drones of the kind being discussed, they’re slow. 15-20 miles is more than enough. But anti-drone drones is just a needlessly complicated solution looking for a problem. You don’t need to hunt down and kill these kinds of drones, they come to you.
@@jonathanpfeffer3716 I agree that it is the least developed of the three ideas, but there are a number of nations looking into it. As far as I know, only the US Fortem Technologies has a functional drone for this purpose, but I expect some more to spring up in the future (largely as an outgrowth of domestic law enforcement needing way to take down drones). Also, one of the main threats assessed for the US large drone models is loitering munitions which can outspeed them and intercept them in the air. For example modified Shahed drones could be a real issue for Reapers, as they are cheap and could knock one out with a proximity airburst if they got close enough. And, as they are manually guided, most of the anti-missile countermeasures would be ineffective. One weird permutation of this, that could be absolutely terrifying or too technologically complicated, is a rumored test by the IAF. They have tested aerial deploying drones that take up a weapon mount on a jet--in case of a dogfight, one or more drones would drop off the jet and engage the enemy independently. It's ironically similar to the US WWII era XF-85 Goblin, but with a UAV.
@@theprogressivecynic2407 You know, use of drones against aerial targets is a really really interesting application that I’ve really never even heard of or considered before, thanks for bringing that to light. That seems like it could be a very serious threat against rotary wing aviation and drones. I wouldn’t be too worried about it when it comes to fixed wing aviation, aircraft like that move to fast to be engaged by anything but a rocket powered drone, aka a missile. The same solutions could work, DEWs on aircraft are possible but they come with a a lot of compromises and requirements and probably wouldn’t be possible on basically every rotary wing/drone platform in the USAF. You would need to develop a lot of accompanying technology to make that work, like a robust AI image matching system to make passive detection work well and some really fancy algorithms to make reengagement possible but that idea is one that I legitimately can’t think of a good counter to other than eliminating launchers before they fire or just not using rotary wing aviation or drones in areas not protected by combat air patrols or SAM sites. I guess the lynchpin of whether anti-air drones would work is unit cost, they would be much more expensive than a Shahed. If they were in relatively small-medium quantities than you could just treat them like a SAM or fighter and they wouldn’t be particularly dangerous, but if they could be made to exist in large enough quantities to achieve saturation AND be distributed across wide fronts that would be a weapon to be feared.
Russia has invested heavily in influence in Africa since soviet times and still has a massive presence there, which might explain the outburst of pro russian out of Africa.
@@comentedonakeyboard You're probably right - it still baffles me that some BJP members probably don't see a contradiction in proudly holding up a picture of Benjamin Netenyahu and Israeli flags in front of a statue of Subhas Chandra Bose, but historical literacy is a problem in every country in the world. Maybe I shouldn't be surprised.
I spent my last few years in the army as part of an ADA Patriot unit during GWT. Back then compared to the rest of the army it was an absolute shit show. I hope they have figured it out by now.
Great Stuff, enjoy following both you guys. One word of caution, just because a fact is in the public domain, does not mean that it is no longer FOUO/CUI. Just because someone else put something in the public domain does not mean we can confirm it.
I’m sure they are well aware of this fact but are forced to use that kind of information to keep out of trouble. HLC is currently on active duty while Preston is a reservist. Both have knowledge on their respective subjects that they can not disclose.
Great respect for
"I don't know!" and
"Can't talk about that." from real experts.
That is how I judge experts. If they answer question after question accurately, but occasionally say "I don't know" I instantly trust them more than the guy I've never seen say "I don't know." It takes a certain type of person to say they don't know when discussing something they are experts on.
@@boydrobertson2362well they can’t tell us all the secrets and he’s been proven to actually know what he’s talking avout
I haven't expected this collab at all. I've started watching habitual linecrosser few weeks ago, but is is a complete surprise to me. A welcome one.
A surprise certainly, but a welcome one to be sure!
Same. He seems to be popping up everywhere lately, maybe due to the relevance of his expertise in air defense. Definitely glad to see it, and thankful he can correct all of this misinformation about a complex topic.
He’s been on and off as feature guest! Glad to see him back! ❤ SO SO much better than horrible Willy dude…who’s fake AF and tries to disingenuously “both sides” everything. Ugh. I literally avoid ANY upload involving Willy! Which is too bad because I tend to get less suggested clips from this channel when I do shut out the Willy nonsense…would much rather see the Habitual Line Crosser on!
Definitely! I've learned soo much from these two guys! Put the Fat Electrician in there, and you won't need any other channels! 👍🏻
The collabs keep coming . First Ryan McBeth and now Habitual Linecrosser. Keep up the good work Preston and really enjoying these convos with these guys you have on . 👍
Glad you like them!
@@PrestonStewart yh keep interviewing pro-Ukrainian propagadists
Dont forget T-Sply, Marcus is a good dude
Ryan was weak sauce.
And glad it ain’t that awful Willy dude! More with HLC and other guests other than Willy! I literally avoid and shut off any clip he’s in!
Another great episode to look forward to, Thank you both for the great content you out out, definitely gonna listen to this on my way home from work!
Hope you like it!
This was a great session. I learned a lot about Air Defense. He wasn't over technical in his replies. Great job
In 89 I stated college on a Military base, Lit 101, I wrote a Combat drone story, imitating todays issues, the class was quick to shot the technology down. A+ prof....
Now, in 2023, it is not at all difficult to imagine a central AI, that all top field experts report to, allowing all specialty experts to query the AI for perspective on any development in that field. Making what used to be a much, more narrow and very deep understanding of one field, a very deeply learned specialty, with effectively a much, much wider capability of instant access to the very wide expert knowledge base that a central AI could give.
It might give scientific development a larger advantage, than the internet did for commonplace communication. Rather than countless pages of information that might be incorrect, it could be a quick query, and a simple, but very precise and accurate answer, with the perspective of every top researcher in every field… and then we can apply that to anything else that you can imagine would benefit from central communication.
Brilliant collaboration Preston. No hyperbole, no BS. Thank you.
So damn glad to see Habitual Linecrosser on the channel. There is no part of national security with more misinformation and disinformation than in Missiles and Missile Defense, and this has been worsened by the "Hypersonic Death Missile" rhetoric that has grown in recent years. Habitual has really done some good by injecting some truth into this space.
He's also one of the funniest people on the internet and so he deserves some recognition for sure.
He’s awesome and I agree, great to have a resource like him with how complicated this missile defense debate has become
@@PrestonStewart I can imagine. Keep up the great journalism. Good journalism is rare.
One of the best informative videos I have seen on this subject specifically and best on any military subject generally. The way you both present is engaging for the listener, you could have gone on for an other hour on the subject. Thank you both.
Appreciate it!
Habitual Linecrosser shorts videos are freaking hilarious. Massive respect to Seargent Long for his knowledge and his take.
Whenever people think of wars, they need to remember that your enemy is never dumb. You might be able to exploit a blindspot temporarily, but they will adapt. Bad guys aren't dumb, just bad.
Now fix that oversimplified sentiment in your last sentence so you’ll be even better off.
@@MrFrinZy I am aware that whether or not someone is bad is very subjective.
Well, unless they are Russia entering Ukraine. Or a certain N. Korean dictator threatening the US with like 2 nuclear weapons who "never poops."
Then they are dumb and bad. 🤣
It's kind of baffling we haven't just hucked a few tac nukes into N. Korea and just "fixed," that humanitarian crisis yet.
Edit: I am obviously joking.
But to be fair, if a small adversary had just spent the last decade training with an elite fighting force, say, the british, on how to fight...there is NO WAY we would pack our victory uniforms instead of food or ammo.
That is just DUMB.
11:37 But SR 71 never flew over the Soviet Union (because the 1970 spy satellite had been found) so it was never tested against the Soviet Union Air Defense System like a U2 plane that was shot down.
I might be wrong, but due to altitude and the rise of satellite that the YF/SRs could perform recon without direct oversight.
I thought that the timeliness based on film technology at the time, was driven by NRO focuses?
The way you two explain and analyze stuff is amazing. HLC is an Air Defence nerd, that knows what he's talking about and at the same time is humble about what he doesnt know. Great technical explanations and he is a master at ELI5 of super advanced stuff. Maybe thats why he teaches this subject? 😅
Preston just has some of the best analytic and researching skills on social media. Complete honesty about his own level of knowledge, and very adamant about the importance of critical thinking in the fog of war and shroud of propaganda. Couple this with smooth and calm presentations and brilliant technical deliverance and you've got one of the best "war correspondents" on social media, even tho he does it from the comfort of his own home. Which just makes it that more impressive.
HELL YES!!!! Thank you both!
Absolutely fascinating subject. Broken down and well presented - thanks gentlemen 👏👏
Appreciate it David, glad you liked it!
I really like videos like this when you bring on others & speak about a certain topic they are very knowledgeable about.
Thanks for that valuable video, which offered so many insights into the way that air defenses work, and work together. Well done!
We we just appreciate how awesome this guy is?
Absolutely fantastic interview, great questions and an actual expert giving answers. I didn't think he had a great answer to the question of how to counter lots of cheap drones at the front lines but that's admittedly out of his area of expertise and maybe more a question for defense contractors like Palmer Luckey.
What a amazing collab. Great stuff thank you Preston
Glad you enjoyed it!
Two of my favorites collaborating for an informative and eye-opening piece on air defense.... What more could I ask for? 😉👍
I'm pretty sure I speak for a sizeable chunk of the viewership when I say you could probably do another video or two and maintain the interest and clicks (if not exceed them outright)...
Good work, thanks for this one... Keep 'em comin'! 💪🤙
Its very refreshing to hear from people who actually know wtf they are talking about.
Impressive.
Honestly this was very informative. Love to both you guys.
Really good and informative video!
Thanks a bundle both of you!
Great steam, I love to hear that guy talk about air defense, and he doesn’t even touch on everything.
F*CKIN LOVE Habitual Line Crosser channel!!!
(just finished watching) Every single one of Preston's questions all have some smart thought and depth to each question. Which makes every one of these very interesting and knowledgeable! Thank you!!
Edit: Preston Stewart, Habitual Line Crosser, and Fat Electrician..... The only three channels you'll ever need for military knowledge!! 😁👍🏻
"I've never actually heard what HIMAD stands for, I'm HIMAD..." Hab is great lol. Loving these collaborations Preston!
Love this guy! His personality for the 22 is spot on!
MORE LIKE THIS! Excellent content!
Thanks a lot!
Fuck yes I was waiting for you both to be in a video
damn that last point about the patriot shot landing on top of the aircraft is nuts.
Excellent video brother, your interview chops are getting better and better. Looking forward to more great content like this.
Thanks a lot!
Great discussion! Thanks!
Thanks good info as usual.
Awesome work buddy, always look forward to seeing content coming from you. Hope this gets the kiddo a scoop of ice cream 🍦 cause a cool dude like you, is probably an even better father
Always look forward to seeing your work.
Hey thanks a lot man, means a lot. Really appreciate the support!
@@PrestonStewart 20:00 whether India, Africa, Brazil , china like Russia to attack Ukraine (of course not) but if Russia loses. then the world will be lost in the grip of western colonialism. where western powers will again colonize other countries. NATO is not to defense eropa but occupation and attacking other continent. Nato attack Iraq, Syria, Libya and Serbia and caused civil war. NATO must be contain. The Southern Hemisphere needs Russia to prevent American domination
I can only imagine what the drones are going to be like in 10-20 years.
I thought about it many times and what i thought of is nightmarish..
I imagined swarms of miniature, few centimeter long drones carrying a tiny explosive charges that would autonomously fly over the battlefield and search for enemy soldiers. When they locate them, they would do a kamikaze attacks on them, detonating the small charge. 1 drone would have enough explosives to kill 1 soldier.
Imagine swarms of those drones flying over the battlefield, sharing data to other drones and when there would be more soldiers than drones, more would fly to that location. If armoured vehicles were present, the small ones would observe them and call bigger drones for that.
If this will actually happen, then all i can say is RIP...
To me that sounds million times more scary than anything else. Even tactical nukes on battlefield are less scary than those swarms to me. Lets hope that these things will not be made, or that they will ban them. Or i at least hope that this is a stupid idea i came up with and that it would be too expensive to make, to be worth it.
Have you also came up with some nightmarish future weapon? Would love to hear what is the scariest thing you heard/can imagine 😄
@@mitotakjde9763 no 🤣
Or even scarier stuff. Imagine insect sized drones, something like mosquitos, but instead of sucking blood, they could inject things like botulinum toxin... Its so deadly, that each drone could in theory carry enough to kill thousands. (1 gram of it could in theory kill more than million people when injected)
I hope that neither of those will ever exist lol. Just thinking about these gives me anxiety 😅
Why do I feel like I’m learning something I shouldn’t know lol. Amazing insight
Great talk from HL Great episode 👍🇦🇺🐨
Great show guys
I did.l a lot of Missile Controller. There are different aspects of a AA defense. You have Patriot, THAAD, SHORADZ, LAAD. We use a defense in depth.
This was really cool guys! Love both of your handles so this calibration is fantastic!!
Two of my favourite RUclipsrs in one episode? Is it Christmas?
Who DOESN’T love acronyms!
And a Happy note to end on 😂
This is the one gut who can answer what air defense doing
Great vid Preston!!!!
Thanks!
Really enjoyed this overview
Hell yeah! I was thinking it would be cool if the two of you did a video.
What a team, thanks guys!!
Great collab! Thank you.
HGL is one of the most knowledgeable people of modern air defense..
Two of my favorite dudes. Love ya guys god bless
Fantastic episode. Really enjoyed the combination of you and habitual!
wow cool! i love HL's short! and prstons longer vids! great combo, super informative.
Great… Great… Great. Thank you, gentlemen.
This is the collaboration i was waiting for :D
Ryan Macbeth, Alex Hillings and now Habitual Line Croser. You hitting all my favorites. Keep up the good work.
Lol Ryan Macbeth has been wrong basically abt everything. Remember when he told us Russian artillery barrels would wear out leaving Russia without artillery? Yet here we are.
@@AndRei-yc3ti You are the residential butthurt specialist of this channel.
Really interesting, many thanks for that. It makes sense to attack the pilot, you don’t want them being capable of returning to fly another aircraft. Experienced pilots take longer to train than the aircraft take to make.
Nice to hear real user of the Patriots system talk about all those subjects ⬆️
This was awesome and super helpful! Keep it up Preston!
this colab is a dream come true
I still think the systems similar to Gepard/Shlika with more modern radar is a simple solution for the drone’s . Combine them with electronic defense and you can clean a area. Counter to it will be artillery…
I think the only system being developed is the Rheinemetal SkyNEX system based around a similar rotating breech guns as used on the Gepard (cheetah). This will be a single barrel turret but because the ROF is doubled to 1100 RPM there is no loss in fire power. The Radars on this system are tiny and clearly millimeter wave radar so are designed to be able to deal with swarming drones. Obviously needs the right software too. Ukraine just ordered two of these for 180 million. Don't worry the money is from Germany, given to Ukraine. This is obviously R&D prototype order. The guns can obviously deal with cruise missiles, shahad style drones but critical will be the ability to also deal with also tiny smaller drones. Hensoldt (the makers of the TRML/4D radar used for IRIS-T) have a business with drone detection radar for sporting venues and stadiums so should be in their capability.
-The issue with 35mm systems is that they just don't have the range to deal with aircraft or helicopters able to fire anti tanke missiles with 10--15km range.
-One way arund thos may be guided ammuntion such as MAD-FIRES.
-I suspect SPAAGS with 50. 57 even 76.2mm guns will provide the range needed.
Also on Africa, keep in mind Wagner is active in at least 8 African nations, so they may have involvement with pro-Russian African online trolling
I get that idea of a bias to the cockpit. At the end of the day, a good pilot is worth more than a plane.
Great video I learned allot today
Great interview
Curious if CRAM and Gepards’s are being used with Norwegian munitions.
Entirely not relevant, but I remember when Charlie Murphy said that Rick James was a habitual line stepper.
Might just be me, but a West Point Officer and an NCO volunteer is great.
2 of my new favorite youtubers collaborate.....lets gooo
Great Imterview .. Thank You
23:40 sounds like some shit he REALLY wasn’t supposed to say online 🤣🤣
Learned alot, thanks for the post.
That was great , thanks guys
Glad you enjoyed it!
The S300 was located in Kyiv they got destroyed lmao the s300 is more widely used than the patriot is
I'm SOOO stoked for this interview! I'm sure I'll be coming back after the video to edit 🙂"edit" Yup, another awesome interview and this one I wasn't expecting at all !
Patriots: An old(-ish) system.
Russian missiles: Developed more recently.
Russian simps: WaTcH oUr neW MissiLeS OuTClaSs tHe PaTriOt SyStem!!!
Reality: America did its usual overengineering a solution to a nonexistent Russian problem that Russia has been hyping up as a real threat. This time, we did this so well that we flipped the order
Very insightful
Excellent exchange! Best collab to date 👏👏👏
how should we valuing AA?
price of AA ammunition vs price of thing that shorted down vs price of thing that AA is protecting?
Depends if the opponent is trying to hit you or trying to degrade your AA.
Cool colab guys
Thank-you. Very insightful and knowledgeable breakdown 🇺🇸
This interview is soooo COOL!
Thanks a lot! Very interesting info as usually! Been seen Patriots in work so many times and now knowing a lot more on how they work thanks to you!
Have you seen HBL's shorts? HILARIOUS... especially the F22
0:01 interesting facts s300 and s400 are optimal as anti-aircraft. while the Patriot is optimal as an anti-cruise missile
I know the old Nike Hercules had an SSM mode. The concept was the missile was flown to a point in the sky at the right vector after engine burnout such that missile would follow a basically ballistic trajectory to the ground target.
So from what is saying,that you have to choose wich missiles to take out,is showing that all what it falled on buildings with people wasnt important to protect and they choosed to protect something else.
Two of my favorites it's my lucky day
The CLAWS system is lazer weapon system that Boeing makes for the marines with off the shelf parts. Very cheap to fire. Also certified marine proof. They put in onto a flatbed with disassembling it and ran into powerlines. It was fine.
Glad to know we Jarheads continue to contribute heavily to R&D 😁
We'll keep throwing shit out the back of Birds, beating prototypes to hell, and testing them with, in the wise words of Fat Electrician, crayon-fed fuckery. It seems to work.
The anti-drone question is interesting and I see it going 3 ways:
1) Lasers (like the Iron Beam you mentioned) are extremely effective in the short range, but lasers are only effective within a certain distance before the atmosphere renders them ineffective
2) Electronic countermeasures could be a really powerful tool against drones. Using EM waves to disrupt them is effective, but requires more development; the same goes for hacking drones, taking control over them or crashing them.
3) Counter-drones are a great option, but likely the most technologically complicated. If the enemy is running drones in a battlefield, you can run your own drone-hunting drones to take them out with either a short-range explosive charge, or even potentially a shotgun blast. This requires the development of drones that are fast enough to intercept enemy drones, with radar systems that can reliably locate small drones to be marked for destruction.
1st and 2nd are the only real practical options, especially the first. EW is phenomenal against quadcopters but once you’re dealing with something autonomous, unless you have EW that will literally fry circuit boards you can’t do anything. DEWs (lasers mostly) are just a phenomenal anti-drone weapon period. Zero cost, high reliability, few moving parts. Short range doesn’t really matter with drones of the kind being discussed, they’re slow. 15-20 miles is more than enough.
But anti-drone drones is just a needlessly complicated solution looking for a problem. You don’t need to hunt down and kill these kinds of drones, they come to you.
@@jonathanpfeffer3716 I agree that it is the least developed of the three ideas, but there are a number of nations looking into it. As far as I know, only the US Fortem Technologies has a functional drone for this purpose, but I expect some more to spring up in the future (largely as an outgrowth of domestic law enforcement needing way to take down drones).
Also, one of the main threats assessed for the US large drone models is loitering munitions which can outspeed them and intercept them in the air. For example modified Shahed drones could be a real issue for Reapers, as they are cheap and could knock one out with a proximity airburst if they got close enough. And, as they are manually guided, most of the anti-missile countermeasures would be ineffective.
One weird permutation of this, that could be absolutely terrifying or too technologically complicated, is a rumored test by the IAF. They have tested aerial deploying drones that take up a weapon mount on a jet--in case of a dogfight, one or more drones would drop off the jet and engage the enemy independently. It's ironically similar to the US WWII era XF-85 Goblin, but with a UAV.
@@theprogressivecynic2407 You know, use of drones against aerial targets is a really really interesting application that I’ve really never even heard of or considered before, thanks for bringing that to light.
That seems like it could be a very serious threat against rotary wing aviation and drones. I wouldn’t be too worried about it when it comes to fixed wing aviation, aircraft like that move to fast to be engaged by anything but a rocket powered drone, aka a missile.
The same solutions could work, DEWs on aircraft are possible but they come with a a lot of compromises and requirements and probably wouldn’t be possible on basically every rotary wing/drone platform in the USAF.
You would need to develop a lot of accompanying technology to make that work, like a robust AI image matching system to make passive detection work well and some really fancy algorithms to make reengagement possible but that idea is one that I legitimately can’t think of a good counter to other than eliminating launchers before they fire or just not using rotary wing aviation or drones in areas not protected by combat air patrols or SAM sites. I guess the lynchpin of whether anti-air drones would work is unit cost, they would be much more expensive than a Shahed. If they were in relatively small-medium quantities than you could just treat them like a SAM or fighter and they wouldn’t be particularly dangerous, but if they could be made to exist in large enough quantities to achieve saturation AND be distributed across wide fronts that would be a weapon to be feared.
Russia has invested heavily in influence in Africa since soviet times and still has a massive presence there, which might explain the outburst of pro russian out of Africa.
Exactly. Same reason India recently said "F**k Palestine, we stand with Netenyahu." - because Israel supplies them with weapons. ☹️
@@MeeesterBond17 well having complicated relations with a muslim neighbor (Pakistan) might influence that choice to.
@@comentedonakeyboard You're probably right - it still baffles me that some BJP members probably don't see a contradiction in proudly holding up a picture of Benjamin Netenyahu and Israeli flags in front of a statue of Subhas Chandra Bose, but historical literacy is a problem in every country in the world. Maybe I shouldn't be surprised.
No shade at all, but I was cracking up when HLC said "I've never actually heard what HIMAD stands for, but I'm HIMAD"
Can we still say, "Air Defense Artillery, An Erection in Every Direction"?
Really enjoyed this video. Learned a shit-ton on this one.
I spent my last few years in the army as part of an ADA Patriot unit during GWT. Back then compared to the rest of the army it was an absolute shit show. I hope they have figured it out by now.
It's still a bit rough but young leaders are making it better
Great Stuff, enjoy following both you guys. One word of caution, just because a fact is in the public domain, does not mean that it is no longer FOUO/CUI. Just because someone else put something in the public domain does not mean we can confirm it.
I’m sure they are well aware of this fact but are forced to use that kind of information to keep out of trouble. HLC is currently on active duty while Preston is a reservist. Both have knowledge on their respective subjects that they can not disclose.
He mentioned unclassified speed of the patriot as mach4 but you can find it documented it online at 5+unclassified just fyi
ngl I was a bit disappointed we didn't get a map with eyes n' mouth
No pilot, the patriot has engaged, has ever survived.... That was an awesome statement!
Even the friendlies?
@@uku4171Even worse, the friendlies😔
Sounds like a lot of alien tech.
I can tell he's used to selling the Patriot defense system he's proud of his work and he should be
The US needs a medium altitude SAM, like NASAMS. The Marines urgently needs it today, but the army needs it on a track too.