I think that most people have knee jerk reactions to over saturated words, like autotune, and cosmetic surgery. Lol. Yes, the falsetto “cry” has some autotune applied on production. Yes, of course Orville can sing this without autotune, and with perfect pitch or relative pitch. Some of the comments are ridiculous. I actually like the autotune, because it gives a modern vibe. Anyway, this guy has one of the greatest voices, and is one of my new favorite voices. Btw, his boyfriend is supposedly Diplo.
@@GenerallyNerdy I’m Gen x. Singer too. I just think that in today’s world, and also maybe younger millenials and Gen z people kind of depersonalize and consider singers and musicians as mere entertaining machines, like watching tv. It’s not about understanding or caring about learning about singing or music anymore as much as being a keyboard warrior and saying whatever they want because they can.
I think he uses it to enhance certain sections, to get a specific sound. Hearing him live, he really doesn't need any help with that insane voice. I get the feeling it is almost a style choice for those very limited and specific notes.
I know he can hit those notes. he has an AMAZING voice. But the way his voice moves between notes is unnatural on this recording. That's why i think its auto tune
It would not have occurred to me to use the term 'Twin Peaks' to describe Orville Peck, but now I literally can't think of any other way to describe him.
I just saw him live (yes i agree he is TOTALLY amazing) and it sounds different live than on the recording, which makes me think it was a style choice for the recording. In the video i said pitch corrected, but I meant to say auto-tuned. Pitch correction implies that I don't think he hit the right note. I just think for some reason he and/or the producer of the song wanted that unnatural jump between notes.
In the grand scheme of things - a moment pitch-corrected in this song… I care not one iota. The song is fantastic! And there are so many worse offenders. Great reaction!👍
@@GenerallyNerdy It's because people who like watching reaction videos are only there for affirmation. They only want glowing reviews and anything less is seen as offensive. The honesty is appreciated, though! I personally couldn't tell that his voice was altered and it seems like it would be possible for him to do (I sing myself). But, based on your experience, your ears are definitely sharper than mine for things like this.
So...Peck now is getting the Big Nashville routine. Way slick on this track and some others compared to earlier work. Guess that is "progress" or ladder climbing, and I don't begrudge that. What I find interesting is the whole "gay Canadian backed by punk band" sounds so much more genuine Country than the current tractor/pickup/porch swing/sweet tea BS schlock the rest of Nashville churns out.
It doesn't sound pitch corrected to my ear, but I will concede that it may be pitch corrected as you claim. You argue the reason it must be pitch corrected is that you have never heard any singer do what Orville seems to do, without pitch correction. But I would like you to consider the possibility that Orville is in fact doing something with his natural voice that you have never heard before in any other singer.
He sounds amazing in a live setting. No “auto tune”. Watch him live. He’s incredible and such a nice person who loves and appreciates his dedicated fans.
saw him live last week. he can definitely get up there and sound outstanding without use of autotune. i doubt that he used some sort of autotune with this video but even if he did, it’s super light and hard to tell.
have you reacted to any of the other songs? I'd love to hear your thoughts on something like Daytona Sands. I've heard it described as a country surfer song, and honestly, I wouldn't argue!
Because it is unnecessary. Orville has a great voice and totally could have done something in that spot that made more sense with the rest of the art in this song.
This was the first song I heard of his. At first listen, I got The Mavericks as well. But then I got some Elvis, some Roy Orbison, some Righteous Brothers, some Glenn Campbell and even some Mac Davis and B.J. Thomas. He’s definitely going for that wall of sound thing it works beautifully. Cheers!
I don’t have a good enough knowledge of music and producing to deny what you are saying about him using pitch correction and I don’t want to be rude to what your opinion is so I am going to state this as something hopefully less defensive of him and more of an inquiry for my own knowledge. I have seen him live and also watched his live videos and he is able to sound pretty similar to this during that. When I first heard the song I was a little out off by those vocals as well but I’ve listened to it many times and I start to get the feeling that although it is produced he doesn’t have much or any pitch correction. If it’s not that much of a waste of your time could you watch him live at stagecoach singing this song and then tell me what you think of the pitch correction and if he is using as much of that as it sounds in the studio recording
Ok... I have now watched 2 live videos AND saw Orville LIVE. I stand by my statement (mostly) If you listen to a live performance of this song you can hear the micro-tones between those notes. He slides from note to note as anyone would. In the studio recording there are no micro-tones. There is a direct jump from one to the next, which is not how the human voice works. Therefore... AUTO-TUNE. He is incredibly talented, so this is probably a style choice by him or the producer, or both. Sorry it took a while to respond to you.
of course it’s “flamboyant”… it’s a music video, would you like to see a boring music video?? You were so busy falsely accusing him of pitch correcting that you missed the meaning of the song. Also you waste like a third of your video just scolding people and not figuring out your own tech, edit that out.
Ok... This is clip from a live stream, sorry it wasn't perfect, but I'm a one man show, so things happen. I never said ANYTHING about the "meaning" of the song. That wasn't part of my commentary at all. Hasn't been for ANY of my other reaction videos, so why should I start with Orville? "Falsely accusing him of pitch correcting"??? Have you ever heard a human voice do that? I complimented him on his vocal talents earlier in the video, but that ONE vocal thing is ABSOLUTELY pitch corrected. Your criticism of my use of "flamboyant" in this reaction video seems to be an attempt to imply something... maybe don't beat around the bush and just come out and say it. ALSO, the opposite of flamboyant is not "boring." But keep up your false equivalency. Why the hostility when I obviously LOVED the song? Just because I can be critical of some of the technical elements does NOT diminish the overall quality or enjoyment. Thanks for paying attention, and not just looking for things to try and "dunk" on... oh wait...
Love your insight on Orville Peck's music and production! I have been a fan of his for years but don't know a ton about music to identify what he does so well. I loved this first chapter of his album and appreciated hearing your thoughts on this single
I agree he is SUPER damn talented. That's why I think it sucks that the producer (likely) decided it was necessary to do that to his voice in that spot.
Yeah, I'm still working with OBS to get better quality audio. Their support for VSTs is a bit buggy for my taste still. Even though this video is now a bit old, and it has gotten better since, not by a whole lot sadly.
Who gives a f about the acoustic guitar? You’re so damn busy trying to impress us with minutia. It’s not pitch corrected. We’ve heard him hit those notes live. You make me sad.
In a more recent video I corrected my statement. It isn't pitch corrected (which really doesn't have anything to do with how high a note is) it is auto tuned. And very probably on purpose it would seem.
@@GenerallyNerdy false comparison my guy. having tassels in one's face doesn't obstruct one's ability to sing or play guitar, as orville peck has demonstrated countless times. having one's face obscured does, conversely, limit the usefulness of a reaction video, because showing one's facial expressions is an important part of the reaction video format.
@@hj-ct2qi is it though? I have seen some rather successful reaction channels where the creator wears an ACTUAL mask. Also, this is kind of a reaction and initial critical analysis, so it isn't JUST about my animated (often fake on most reaction channels) physical reaction to what is happening.
I think that most people have knee jerk reactions to over saturated words, like autotune, and cosmetic surgery. Lol. Yes, the falsetto “cry” has some autotune applied on production. Yes, of course Orville can sing this without autotune, and with perfect pitch or relative pitch. Some of the comments are ridiculous. I actually like the autotune, because it gives a modern vibe. Anyway, this guy has one of the greatest voices, and is one of my new favorite voices. Btw, his boyfriend is supposedly Diplo.
THANKS! i wish more people were reasonable as this.
@@GenerallyNerdy I’m Gen x. Singer too. I just think that in today’s world, and also maybe younger millenials and Gen z people kind of depersonalize and consider singers and musicians as mere entertaining machines, like watching tv. It’s not about understanding or caring about learning about singing or music anymore as much as being a keyboard warrior and saying whatever they want because they can.
I think he uses it to enhance certain sections, to get a specific sound. Hearing him live, he really doesn't need any help with that insane voice. I get the feeling it is almost a style choice for those very limited and specific notes.
I respectfully disagree on the autotune - ive seen him live - he can go there...
I know he can hit those notes. he has an AMAZING voice. But the way his voice moves between notes is unnatural on this recording. That's why i think its auto tune
It would not have occurred to me to use the term 'Twin Peaks' to describe Orville Peck, but now I literally can't think of any other way to describe him.
its kinda perfect right?
I don't think that it was pitch corrected. Yes, I know the difference. As a singer, I can repeat that.
Orville Peck is just amazing.
I just saw him live (yes i agree he is TOTALLY amazing) and it sounds different live than on the recording, which makes me think it was a style choice for the recording. In the video i said pitch corrected, but I meant to say auto-tuned. Pitch correction implies that I don't think he hit the right note. I just think for some reason he and/or the producer of the song wanted that unnatural jump between notes.
In the grand scheme of things - a moment pitch-corrected in this song… I care not one iota. The song is fantastic! And there are so many worse offenders. Great reaction!👍
Agreed... it is NOT a deal breaker kind of moment for me. Which is why it confuses me that all these people are getting so defensive over it.
Right. You can watch some live shows from Peck, and he and his band knock it out of the park. Real talent, and not manufactured Nashville product.
@@GenerallyNerdy It's because people who like watching reaction videos are only there for affirmation. They only want glowing reviews and anything less is seen as offensive. The honesty is appreciated, though! I personally couldn't tell that his voice was altered and it seems like it would be possible for him to do (I sing myself). But, based on your experience, your ears are definitely sharper than mine for things like this.
So...Peck now is getting the Big Nashville routine. Way slick on this track and some others compared to earlier work. Guess that is "progress" or ladder climbing, and I don't begrudge that. What I find interesting is the whole "gay Canadian backed by punk band" sounds so much more genuine Country than the current tractor/pickup/porch swing/sweet tea BS schlock the rest of Nashville churns out.
I wouldn't go as far as to say he is joining the "Nashville Machine" but there is DEFINITELY some shiny production on here.
It doesn't sound pitch corrected to my ear, but I will concede that it may be pitch corrected as you claim.
You argue the reason it must be pitch corrected is that you have never heard any singer do what Orville seems to do, without pitch correction. But I would like you to consider the possibility that Orville is in fact doing something with his natural voice that you have never heard before in any other singer.
No my argument is that it sounds inhuman. I recognize that it is POSSIBLE he isn't being pitch corrected. I just think the likelihood is slim.
Cracking into falsetto is not auto tune. It’s a yodel
The final “Cry” has all the slide you were looking for in the Chorus
That is not "cracking into falsetto." Listen to Hank Williams' "Lovesick Blues" and then this and tell me they are the same vocal technique.
that final "Cry" is proof that the others didn't need the pitch correction, unless it was a style choice.
He sounds amazing in a live setting. No “auto tune”. Watch him live. He’s incredible and such a nice person who loves and appreciates his dedicated fans.
saw him live last week. he can definitely get up there and sound outstanding without use of autotune. i doubt that he used some sort of autotune with this video but even if he did, it’s super light and hard to tell.
thats the point. it is a style thing and it is pretty subtle.
have you reacted to any of the other songs? I'd love to hear your thoughts on something like Daytona Sands. I've heard it described as a country surfer song, and honestly, I wouldn't argue!
No, because I listen to his stuff pretty regularly. Not a reaction if I have heard it before.
why would someone who cares about music production care about pitch correction? a song is an art piece, making it the best it can be is the point.
Because it is unnecessary. Orville has a great voice and totally could have done something in that spot that made more sense with the rest of the art in this song.
by that logic there would never be a need to paint something you could just take a perfect photo of
@@brucesmith1544 VERY GOOD POINT!!
@@brucesmith1544 No, more like you take a photo of the Mona Lisa and then photoshop some eyebrows onto it.
This was the first song I heard of his. At first listen, I got The Mavericks as well. But then I got some Elvis, some Roy Orbison, some Righteous Brothers, some Glenn Campbell and even some Mac Davis and B.J. Thomas. He’s definitely going for that wall of sound thing it works beautifully.
Cheers!
He really is amazing. Live too!
I don’t have a good enough knowledge of music and producing to deny what you are saying about him using pitch correction and I don’t want to be rude to what your opinion is so I am going to state this as something hopefully less defensive of him and more of an inquiry for my own knowledge. I have seen him live and also watched his live videos and he is able to sound pretty similar to this during that. When I first heard the song I was a little out off by those vocals as well but I’ve listened to it many times and I start to get the feeling that although it is produced he doesn’t have much or any pitch correction. If it’s not that much of a waste of your time could you watch him live at stagecoach singing this song and then tell me what you think of the pitch correction and if he is using as much of that as it sounds in the studio recording
Ok... I have now watched 2 live videos AND saw Orville LIVE. I stand by my statement (mostly)
If you listen to a live performance of this song you can hear the micro-tones between those notes. He slides from note to note as anyone would.
In the studio recording there are no micro-tones. There is a direct jump from one to the next, which is not how the human voice works. Therefore... AUTO-TUNE. He is incredibly talented, so this is probably a style choice by him or the producer, or both.
Sorry it took a while to respond to you.
of course it’s “flamboyant”… it’s a music video, would you like to see a boring music video?? You were so busy falsely accusing him of pitch correcting that you missed the meaning of the song. Also you waste like a third of your video just scolding people and not figuring out your own tech, edit that out.
Ok...
This is clip from a live stream, sorry it wasn't perfect, but I'm a one man show, so things happen.
I never said ANYTHING about the "meaning" of the song. That wasn't part of my commentary at all. Hasn't been for ANY of my other reaction videos, so why should I start with Orville?
"Falsely accusing him of pitch correcting"??? Have you ever heard a human voice do that? I complimented him on his vocal talents earlier in the video, but that ONE vocal thing is ABSOLUTELY pitch corrected.
Your criticism of my use of "flamboyant" in this reaction video seems to be an attempt to imply something... maybe don't beat around the bush and just come out and say it. ALSO, the opposite of flamboyant is not "boring." But keep up your false equivalency.
Why the hostility when I obviously LOVED the song? Just because I can be critical of some of the technical elements does NOT diminish the overall quality or enjoyment.
Thanks for paying attention, and not just looking for things to try and "dunk" on... oh wait...
That i tro was enough to skip the video
well thanks for the algorithm bump with the comment then.
Love your insight on Orville Peck's music and production! I have been a fan of his for years but don't know a ton about music to identify what he does so well. I loved this first chapter of his album and appreciated hearing your thoughts on this single
Thank you very much 🤘🤘
He's perfection. Not going to click like.
I agree he is SUPER damn talented. That's why I think it sucks that the producer (likely) decided it was necessary to do that to his voice in that spot.
Geez sir your volume was quite low for the video
Yeah, I'm still working with OBS to get better quality audio. Their support for VSTs is a bit buggy for my taste still. Even though this video is now a bit old, and it has gotten better since, not by a whole lot sadly.
Going on the plethora of dislike comments I think I'll pass this video LOL
You realize by commenting you are STILL helping me though right?
Who gives a f about the acoustic guitar? You’re so damn busy trying to impress us with minutia. It’s not pitch corrected. We’ve heard him hit those notes live. You make me sad.
In a more recent video I corrected my statement. It isn't pitch corrected (which really doesn't have anything to do with how high a note is) it is auto tuned. And very probably on purpose it would seem.
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what is the point of making a reaction video if most of your face is covered by a baseball cap the for the majority of the video?
what's the point of making music if 90% of your face is covered by a mask and tassels?
(do you see how silly that sounds?)
@@GenerallyNerdy false comparison my guy. having tassels in one's face doesn't obstruct one's ability to sing or play guitar, as orville peck has demonstrated countless times. having one's face obscured does, conversely, limit the usefulness of a reaction video, because showing one's facial expressions is an important part of the reaction video format.
@@hj-ct2qi is it though? I have seen some rather successful reaction channels where the creator wears an ACTUAL mask. Also, this is kind of a reaction and initial critical analysis, so it isn't JUST about my animated (often fake on most reaction channels) physical reaction to what is happening.