Why the Avs Can't Do With Nichushkin What the Flyers Did With Johansen

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  • Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
  • The Philadelphia Flyers have started the process of terminating the contract of Ryan Johansen, the player they acquired from the Colorado Avalanche at last years trade deadline who never played a second for the Flyers. So they Flyers are moving on from Johansen due to his refusal to play. There's a lot of talk out there about why the Colorado Avalanche can't do the same with Val Nichushkin. We discuss.
    We also talk about players we don't particularly like or root for, if we would start rooting for them if they came to play for the Avs.
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Комментарии • 48

  • @ostarakonrad9907
    @ostarakonrad9907 22 дня назад +4

    Low key I love Brad Marchand. He plays such a perfect heel but hes the nicest guy ever off the ice

  • @kaydirling
    @kaydirling 19 дней назад

    I think the player assistance program is sort of the NHL version of FMLA. Basically, you can't get fired for needing time away. I think when he is reinstated, that sets him back to regular status and any breach can be used as a reason to terminate.

  • @erikhalvorseth3950
    @erikhalvorseth3950 23 дня назад +3

    Regarding 'hatred' I save that for IS and such ppl. I have to say Matt Cooke- I felt just utter disgust for that guy on a level skyhigh over everybody else.
    After that Marchy licking stuff I also felt a healthy portion of discontent in that direction. Truckloads of players one dislike just because they repr the
    chosen opposition to dislike etc. I am too old for 'hatred' regarding sports

  • @briggsy5893
    @briggsy5893 23 дня назад +4

    One little detail to add to the Johansen conversation. The Flyers likely aren't getting out of it this easy. RyJo has the right to file a grievance through the PA and that grievance will likely succeed. the result of that process will likely end up being a negotiated settlement (remember Evander Kane in San Jose?). So, the Flyers/Preds will end up having to pay him a good chunk of that remaining 8 mil over some time frame, and that settlement will be attached to their salary cap hit.

    • @MrBlazemaster525
      @MrBlazemaster525 23 дня назад

      Any penalties are just on Philly's head
      Nashville weren't the ones that fucked Johansen over

    • @shaggyvondoom
      @shaggyvondoom 23 дня назад

      Yeah it’s messy all around

    • @ostarakonrad9907
      @ostarakonrad9907 22 дня назад

      If you know that, the flyers know that too, and have already accepted it

    • @richardtherichard26
      @richardtherichard26 22 дня назад

      Why would he have grounds to file a grievance? If you suck at hockey you get sent down. You don’t get to cry about it bc your name is Ryan Johansson 😂😂😂🤡🤡🤡

    • @briggsy5893
      @briggsy5893 22 дня назад

      @@richardtherichard26 his grounds to file a grievance are that his contract is guaranteed and he has not violated the terms of it. almost every contract that gets terminated is grieved and results in some form of a settlement.

  • @erikhalvorseth3950
    @erikhalvorseth3950 23 дня назад +2

    I have Preds goggles on. You started in the right end. It is not like Johansen said 'I refuse to play for Torts period'
    Johansen claimed after being traded from Avs that 'he has a serious hip injury that needs surgery'. So the center of the dispute is there.
    GM Briere after much to and fro disputes Johansen's actual injury after both Flyers med staff and 3.party med staff have been involved.
    Flyers as an organisation claims that Johansen is in another physical state than Johansen claims to be, and as such Johansen
    has mislead them regarding his physical status which implies they can put him on unconditional waivers and terminate his contract.
    Johansen naturally disputes this and the PA will most certainly be involved etc. That is where this case is now

    • @shaggyvondoom
      @shaggyvondoom 23 дня назад +1

      It’s just nasty and shouldn’t have gotten this far

  • @thekreal8703
    @thekreal8703 23 дня назад +3

    Bennington

  • @madamebattleaxe4257
    @madamebattleaxe4257 21 день назад

    Great show guys!!
    Your a great comfort on my commute to work😁😁
    I do not understand this "program" Nichushkin is in. And everyone is just so tight lipped about it. But to be honest I am not seeing any "therapy". I see him over in Russia living it up while we are back here dealing with cap issues that he created.
    And again, simply not skating is not a punishment. Where is the rehab??...
    But my issue is his 2 incidents were not the same thing.
    And being on a level 3 at my job is termination. I have seen guys get traded for less, why is he any different??
    I said it before and I will continue to say it.
    Bennington is a player that I just won't cheer for. Even if Jesus facilitated trade. I'm not doing it😂😂
    2. Marchand. He's such a tiny twerp.
    3. Evander Kane. I'm not even going to waste the thumb energy to type out why regarding him..ugh...
    Have a great weekend LOA😁😁

  • @qp2044
    @qp2044 23 дня назад +2

    Duchene for sure. Bertuzzi, even though its not directly his fault.
    Binnington could go either way. I could see a quiet version of him, like late last season, being okay. The other version still exists though, and that version would bug me

    • @shaggyvondoom
      @shaggyvondoom 23 дня назад

      Agree with the 3

    • @UnquenchableHatred
      @UnquenchableHatred 20 дней назад

      How is decking someone from behind in the back of the head not his fault? Nobody but bertuzi did that, doesn't matter if Crawford told him anything, ultimately he is the one who decided to do it, no excuses

    • @qp2044
      @qp2044 18 дней назад

      ​@@UnquenchableHatred different players.... you can't be for real with this

  • @christyouredumb956
    @christyouredumb956 22 дня назад

    Toronto. Montreal, Boston, ny and staying up till 11pm to watch hockey games creates east coast bias. A majority of your phwa reside on the east coast and have 6-8 games starting at 7pm local time but only have 1-4 starting at a decent time. You miss out on so much with the late start times

  • @qp2044
    @qp2044 23 дня назад

    East coast thing absolutely exists, i just dont think its the media. The east coast fans dont get to watch many west coast games, and they only see the west teams a few times a year. Totally caused by the nhl and 10pm est starts. Need to get the start times earlier

  • @AtamiskxIx
    @AtamiskxIx 22 дня назад +1

    Zegras and McDavid come to mind. Id go full sharks if mcdavid came here

  • @tophercabba
    @tophercabba 21 день назад

    i said this on one of the other podcast , the PAP needs to have a clause in it , u cant just keep letting a player re offend and let that team and the nhl suffer its not a good look , how many chances did theo fleury get , when he went threw his stuff i thought there was 6 levels to the program still think there was because i remember he was the only player to hit level 4 ,at one point a team should be able to terminate a contract idk why these things aint baked in u get 3 strikes

  • @JohnnyFalco
    @JohnnyFalco 22 дня назад +1

    Tom Wilson would be up there for me... I have no respect for players that show a consistent intent to injure

  • @augustwest5207
    @augustwest5207 19 дней назад

    The Avs need a pest a la Claude Lemieux, Corey Perry, Marchand, Kadri, or Bennett. They make a long boring regular season tolerable & bring some spice & flavor in the playoffs. RyJo exemplifies McFarland’s tenure as a GM.

  • @matambale
    @matambale 23 дня назад +2

    Evander Kane, Pat Maroon, Jamie Benn:
    Assholes. Pardon my French.
    Binnington:
    Used to think that guy was just putting on a show, but over time, obvious he's just childish.

  • @juholaitakari1305
    @juholaitakari1305 22 дня назад

    Kyle Sullivan doesn’t get it, does he? The point of the program is that the league doesn’t want to show bad example and turn its back on people who are sick.

  • @artokilponen6989
    @artokilponen6989 23 дня назад +1

    It is interesting that how the geolocation affects these. Talking of Ovechkin there in North America and it didn't even cross your mind that one reason people hates Ovechkin is political. For _A LOT_ of European NHL fans Ovechkin is the #1 on that list and that's not even close. Yeah absolutely he is one of the best X players in NHL history etc. but the political views he has is simply too much for tons of people
    Personally I don't hate Ovechkin like that. He has his political views and he has a right to have them.

    • @faunbudweis
      @faunbudweis 20 дней назад

      Hit the nail on the head. Honestly, there are very few hockey players who actively participated in war propaganda like he did already in 2013. For all I care, he could score all the goals in the world, he will never be anything but a puppet who abused his sports fame. Used to love him early as a player, when he scored on his back etc., all gone. Imagine if Muhammad Ali advocated for the Vietnam War...

  • @tophercabba
    @tophercabba 21 день назад

    see my whole thing is with expansion is they shouldnt get to cherry pick from other teams that was just insane for vegas and seattle so stupid , they should of got all the first round picks thats its then they could trade away the players sign free agents etc and if they chose to roster that whole team of first round picks there cap would be lowered alot so they couldnt just trade away at deadline if they were doing good ,entry level times 24 players is 21 million so they would get a cap of 40 million if they sign 24 of those 31 draft picks room for imporovment but not enough room to just go nuts and that would stay for the 3 years , a whole team of players devolping together would prove better than a new team get to cherry pick from other teams who could only protect 7-9 was it .. that was just idiotic ,and if tat happened anyteam with a first round pick who looseing it because of this gets a bit of cap forgivness

  • @gablefisk-govphost817
    @gablefisk-govphost817 23 дня назад

    "You can't just terminate a contract!!!"
    Corey Perry says hello

    • @LockedOnAvalanche
      @LockedOnAvalanche  23 дня назад

      That was terminated due to actions off the ice but related to the team. They didn't just wake up and say terminate Perry.

    • @gablefisk-govphost817
      @gablefisk-govphost817 23 дня назад +1

      @@LockedOnAvalanche If anyone has ever had "actions off the ice but related to the team," it's Nuke

    • @LockedOnAvalanche
      @LockedOnAvalanche  23 дня назад

      @@gablefisk-govphost817 I'm not denying that, just pointing out the Hawks terminating Perry wasn't out of the blue

    • @richardtherichard26
      @richardtherichard26 22 дня назад

      @@LockedOnAvalancheand the Avs terminating nichushkin wouldn’t be out of the blue either. I’m failing to see the difference between the 2 situations

    • @LockedOnAvalanche
      @LockedOnAvalanche  22 дня назад

      @@richardtherichard26 the league has already told the Avs they can't terminate his contract based on his suspensions or being in the program. So once he comes back they have no grounds to terminate it. Which means they can't just out of the blue terminate him.

  • @tophercabba
    @tophercabba 21 день назад

    also just make the cap 100 million already and leave it there lol

  • @jizzya4332
    @jizzya4332 22 дня назад

    it was Nazem Kadri for me. Hated him in Toronto, never won me over in Colorado. Today if Jordan Binnington found his way to the Avalanche i would not enjoy cheering for him, Corey Perry is a close second, just for his run of Stanely Cups loses, and not because he is a rat

  • @pstandlee
    @pstandlee 23 дня назад +1

    Perón and Stone. No thanks.

  • @biffdanielson2820
    @biffdanielson2820 23 дня назад

    What was Val popped for?

  • @jimrosser7494
    @jimrosser7494 23 дня назад +2

    Val needs to sign in Russia and leave us alone.

  • @SkyFellowship
    @SkyFellowship 16 дней назад

    Ryan Smyth and Jerome Iginla, no joke, hated both, wasn't keen even on the Avs.
    Other than that, known bigots, will never root for anyone whom doesn't think we deserve to exist. Avs jersey or no.
    Oh and known sexual predators like Matthews and heavily suspected but for legal reasons won't name and will instead just say former players.
    As for hot takes, cups before it took 16 wins to win, aren't as valuable R.E bragging rights wise as cups now-a-days.
    Oh you won the cup back when it took playing 1 team in a best of 5? Ok that's the same as 4 rouns of best of 7.

  • @rachle81
    @rachle81 22 дня назад

    Rumor on RyJo is that he’s claiming he’s “so injured” he can’t skate or play, but videos surfaced of him from his wedding last weekend dancing up a storm, carrying his wife on his shoulders and lifting people up, etc and they’re calling him out for lying about the severity of the injury. No idea if there is truth to that but it wouldn’t surprise me if it factors in because of the timing. Glad he’s not our problem, regardless.