Spells and feat changes for One D&d Player’s Handbook Playtest 6 UA
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Dueling doesn't apply and I did the full damage die by accident. Sorry. It's 0.65x(2.5+4) = 4.22 average. Its a little bit more with great weapon fighting and crit but whatever, you get the point. My conclusion is the same.
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The Astral Sea (but GOOD) & some practical, REAL options for my gnome/unicorn fey centaur... YES.
Considering that PAM requires using a heavy weapon (so no shield) and requires a feat investment, I think smites still work fine as a bonus action, and I can take Inspiring Leader, War Caster, Mounted Combatant, Heavy Armor Master, etc. depending on the stat I want to boost.
@@Sanglant4342 No, he didn't mean that. You should learn to not build strawmans.
@@Sanglant4342 Noone is going to discuss anything with you with that attitude.
Im not gonna miss Wrathful smite because we’re sticking to 5e… they’ve literally done the opposite of what we wanted. Why are casters getting buffed wile marital and half casters are getting nerfed? It’s ridiculous…
Elementalist has one good practical use:
Beckon water is infinite drinking water
So even in one dnd, food/drink will probably be trivialized by cantrips and spells.
This fits well on a druid with goodberry to throw out any tension regarding gathering basic supplies to survive
Yeah, but the water vaporizes in 1 minute, doesn't matter if you drink it.
That's not a good use at all brother.
You can, at max, wash yourself as it dries naturally and really quick, during rests.
@@blueveil3277 I would argue that it can still be used to quench thirst; you just have to drink it promptly.
@@blueveil3277 I would think that if the water is used for something it will have a hard time vaporizing, however turning yourself in a gas grenade would be a funny way to die I guess.
@@blueveil3277 It vaporises? Now let's make some ampule granades.
@@The_Yukki that we can work with.
Drinking, is a no no. Making grenades? That's a big yes.
Wizards is doubling down on gimping martials and buffing casters under the guise of giving martials a throwaway.
It's a meme answer, but I guess this is vengeance for being bullied by jocks when they were younger.
Paladin is literally the strongest class after wizard, and they are STILL buffed in this UA
@@snoochieboochies2011 Paladin is made irrelevant by any 9th level caster that can take a 2 level dip for smite and then use their higher level spell slots to not only do more powerful smites, but use them more often. Bard is the nastiest culprit for this, because they can get extra attack as well depending on the subclass. A hexblade 1, bard 6, pal 2 pretty much breaks the game lol.
@@greyelf1537 that's a good point, I never considered a valor bard with divine smite.
@@greyelf1537 This is why multiclassing is optional. I only allow it for good reasons and that doesn't include optimizing.
I think it is important to note that even though you can't smite with ranged weapons anymore, you can still smite with a thrown weapon. I like that compromise.
Since explicitly requires a weapon to still use its melee stat (ex: Handaxe uses STR both on hand or hurling through the air); it makes sense that it creates a "conduit" on a hit between both creatures to channel divine power.
-> This is how real lighting works.
An arrow is simply TOO FAST & lacks enough mass (POUNDS) to alter the air/fluid/aether in a consistent way for long enough (half a second) to activate the bonus action.
Rest in peace, Divine Smite, we’ll miss you
And the barbarian multiclass as raging while smiting was so cool
Note that smites need to be used with melee WEAPONS not melee ATTACKS. Javelin smites are on the table.
Paladin got gutted and the Fighting Style feat prerequisite of Fighting Style feature is a huge Barbarian nerf unless they give them a Fighting Style
And you are surprised? It was obvious with the trend we have been seeing that martials we continuously be nerfed as how dare you even consider playing them over a full caster
WotC: "We should make Sorcs and Wizards feel more unique. Let's buff MM and give Wizards the ability to alter and create spells."
Also WotC: "We're changing fighting styles again so that 2 out of the 3 classes they were supposed to be exclusively for can't take them. Also, that other martial exclusive thing is being given freely to two half casters and a full caster subclass. Enjoy, you filthy martial peasants."
Wasn't the whole point of One D&D was to lessen the powergap between caster & martial? As well as 'update' 5E?
@christopherjenerette5214 lmao nah it was a cash grab as they aren't making much money and if they can retail books with only slight changes but nerfing martials and buffing casters will really bring in the dough again as we have seen their latest books are just not that good with content in them
@@Zodiac_Lord If it was the case, being that they're trying to lessen the gap between martials and casters, they did a very mediocre job so far. By that, I mean:
- they gave some buffs to some martials like Fighter, Rogue, and Barbarian. Some of it is enough, but there are still issues at higher level play (like Barbarian not having much incentive to stay past level 7/8 in terms of class features.).
- they gutted Monk for some reason. "StUnNiNg StIkE iS tOo StRoNg."
They then had the audacity to buff wizard, sorcerer, and bard to absurd levels by comparison.
- Wizards can buff their own spells to obscene levels so long as they have the cash; something that's plentiful in higher level play. By comparison, Barbs get a scaling damage modifier that only happens on a 5% chance roll of the dice (meaning that it's entirely possible to not roll a single critical strike an entire combat; even two. I know, I've been there.).
- Sorcs get Improved Wish as their capstone. In comparison, Ranger gets small buffs to HM (meaning if they don't use HM because they'd rather concentrate on a better spell, they effectively have no capstone.).
- Bards get access to two full spell lists for extreme utility around level 10. Meanwhile, monks had Stunning Strike reduced to once a turn with their only real buff being the level 7 feature for a 1 minute short rest once a day. They even made a Bard subclass that's just a Charisma based monk that can perform just as good, if not better because they have spells.
Feels like Paladin got thrown down a flight of stairs tbh
Can't have a (kind of) martial class be competitive compared to full spellcasters, thus they obviously need to be nerfed to the ground.
Now the martials apart from fighter cant even take a fighting style, wizards of the coast is amazing
Yep because it was obvious that martials needed to be nerfed again and again as them even being considered to be played over a full casters is already too much
not up to date on everything in the UA but paladins and rangers get a fighting style in 5e so i think its just monks barbs and rogues that get dicked on fighting style change.
@@tomtom7955 I've always found it crap that paladins and rangers have it, but the monks, barbs and rogues doesnt have a fighting style, like man, you give to that clases, magic and fightings styles, but the clases without magic dont. But now, not only they dont have fighting style, now they cant get a fighting style, is not only estupid in terms of balancing, also is stupid in terms of flavor and roleplay that classes that only depend on damage and physical power, do not have something as simple as a fighting style in the base class
@BK-hu4qf it is also funny as they also got weapon masteries too what should be martials exclusive Eben though they aren't that much but come on
@@BK-hu4qfthats why as a dm i allow all martial to get one fight style at lv1 and allow ANY of the fighter styles for each one of them, not just the ones granted on the class, i mean, Aragorn is the reason Ranger exist, what weapon he use? Longsword, a twohanded versatile weapon. Can the ranger get the twohanded weapons style? No. Thats BS. Makes no sense. It should more based on the weapon proficiencies rather than the class itself, if you get access to thrown weapon proficiencies like daggers, then you can get the thrown style. Simple.
Hunter's Mark was sneak attack before 5th level/extra attack.
Now it's sneak attack regardless.
It's amazing how they made a worse sneak attack as a feature.
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@@ronald1416but OP is correct
@@seekingfurtherlight34 true true
But they're not table friendly.
@@ronald1416 but a true statement nevertheless
Something to note is that Vicious Mockery works on creatures who you can see or hear, not who can see or hear you, so you can still cast it on deafened creatures.
I'm thinking you can attack creatures behind full cover.
@@plank4235 It is a CURSE (like Hex), that requires you knowing the location of a creature that is not [Hiding].
The [Invisible] subcomponent of hiding does not apply if you can hear them moving or using object interactions in a quiet enviroment (everyone is hiding, or not yet casted verbal components or making melee attacks on this round).
I think they should make smites like maneuvers. You choose on hit which one you use or smth like that without using a bonus action
Or like eldritch invocations
I've been thinking the same for awhile now. A No-Action resource that requires a hit with a melee weapon. I'd be willing to take a dmg die hit and keeping it once per turn if it means the calming the worry about smite crit damage.
I mean, that's literally how divine smite works in 5e
@@MysticColorsAttack This would apply to ALL the smite spells, no bonus action casting and/or concentration. And smite currently isn't limited in amount per turn.
I like Elementalism because now you don’t need 4 different cantrips to do tricks with all four elements.
true, it's literally control fire, shape water, gust and mold earth fused together
@@justcri Yeah, it’s great. And the water one could be over powered in a survival situation
@@EpicRandomness555 Not really.
At best you can have 10 cups of water getting hot & disolving something (like herbal tea with salt), that becomes 8 cups after placing it on 4 containers, each in the hands of the party members (luckily reaching the esophagus before it vanishes, rather than leaving hot solids at the mouth/throat).
This is still better than drinking your own pee (safe, bust disgusting), that could be purified with Elementalism once you fill at least 1 cubic foot (for eficiency, since it is a tedious process), about 80 pounds of liquid & some ounces of urea.
Dehydration is way more serious in standard D&D than food.
-> Non-extreme enviroments have enough humidity that can be extracted from the air with Elementalism (sand+breeze+mix). But it is a lot of work (most of the day, for just 1 person), compared with Create Water.
@@adolfodef It’s… still water. I guess you couldn’t keep a party alive, just yourself but water is water.
@@EpicRandomness555 It evaporates after 10 rounds, then it vanishes on round 11 (from all water the air into nothing in 6 seconds).
-> You have to be inside the 5x5x5 foot cube to drink it, it can not leave it and persist.
It STILL evaporates & vanish inside your body (every drop, mixing it with REAL water/fluids does not change its intrinsically temporary magical ethereal origin).
I don't follow One D&D closely, but from what I gather the average powerlevel of most classes is lower than in 5e. So action economy is gonna be even more important and number of actions is gonna outweigh quality of actions, so the best thing you can do will be summoning as many things as possible it seems. Or play a wizard, of course.
@@Sanglant4342they nerfed all the Martians, meanwhile buffing casters into the stratosphere? Like where is your “reigning in” for casters?
@@Sanglant4342 The game is not all about damage. Hypnotic pattern hitting 3 enemies gets you ahead in action economy unlile anything a martial can do. Fly lets you autowin some fights. Summoning things is another swing in the action economy. Also caster are usually a lot more tanky than martials. And a fireball hitting enough enemies is also a lot more damage than a martial could do. Like, do you watch this channel and listen to the points made here?
They should give divine smite the same treatment as sneak attack and cunning strike. Keep Divine Smite as a feature instead of a spell, increase the damage by 1d8 and make the former smite spells into effects you can activate by paying d8s.
Yes, and I know it is still pretty niche but that would also still allow them to do so while in rage as it just works so thematically foe someone to smite someone down while they are raging at them
That's a great way to make the two classes feel really samey.
Having a class-specific way to burn spell slots is fun. I'm not sure about this bonus-action-between-hit-and-damage thing, but making it use spell slots is really important imo, both for balance and feel.
@@CJWproductions oh yeah, I want to keep it a spell slot thing, sorry I didn't say that clearly enough. And while the mechanic would be the same, the effects would be different and not sneaky and cunning but divine power hitting an enemy.
So basically, same Divine Smite feature as in PHB14, but with the bonus action rule, damage improvement by 1d8 and the option of trading d8s for extra effects.
Bro, I didn't know I needed to read your comment. You are a genius. I was thinking almost the opposite. Make smite spells have increased die size when cast by a paladin, most of them are d6s and would turn into d8s but I guess would still deal less damage than divine smite. But now that I have your perspective I think should be a spell slot level requirement too otherwise you could shining and banishing smite with lower level slots if the cost is low enough or it would cost so much that it would deal no extra damage.
What's crazy about hunters mark is that they said in the play test notes that they added concentration back because it was "overpowered" like on what table was this broken?
its never been broken, so god knows.
I cant believe they killed the exciting aspect of hunters mark (it enhancing all your attacks), didnt remove concentration AND built the spell into the class as a core feature, including requiring the spell to by up in order to use your capstone.. That is baffling.
It's just like hex, in that when used as intended, it was a bit of a dps boost and could be used to maintain a good dpr through an adventuring day while using your slots on more explosive effects. Now it's just bad
It was broken when multiclassing. Every class that is not too MAD could take one level in ranger and have concentration free hunter's mark. It could affect 1% of the player base but it's bad game design. But the real problem is that the guys can't see that the solution is simply splitting the feature into 2: you learn hunter's mark at 1st or 2nd level and have the concentration aspect be a higher level feature, somewhere from 5th to 14th, I don't know where exactly, probably 6th level or after
@@erickignacioferreira8143 or just remove the free castings 10d6 spread over 10 rounds is probably to much for a level one slot but if the damage only applies on weapon attacks it won't be too broken additionally you could add hunters mark at lvl 2 then the dip isn't really worth it.
As per usual, WOTC guts martials and buffs casters with the guise of pretending to have any semblance of balance, just to have something different enough to get a new license while having unique class abilities reduced to spells to fit into their VTT. It's sad.
On a more positive note, there's another system not to dissimilar from 5e's good parts called Level Up: Advanced 5th edition. I really like the martials in that system, and I'd love to see it covered some day.
OneD&D continues to essentially be a bunch of monkeys with typewriters.
They don't really want to fix anything. Just make it different enough that they can make a new lisence
All they had to do was buff martials to make them on par with casters
I think you gave elementalism a bit too much hate. I mean it is like thaumaturgy in that its mostly fluff, but I think that its thematically cool and has some uses. I'm also sure that players could find some use from the sculpt element part of it, like tunneling through a wall or something.
It is really good for social and exploration. Pack tactics is more combat focused so he isn't going to give credit to something useful outside of combat.
@@XanderHarris1023Right. Cool channel, but unless it impacts DPR, he probably will undervalue it.
Bruh, I knew these dudes hated melee classes but I didn’t know they hated em this much. Look how they massacred the paladin
WOTC: hey you thought ranger was bad so we will fix it by giving you 2 bad spells virtually no-one ever used as a core feature, it is now fixed.
You missed that with Conjure Volley you pick what creatures are affected in the area.
He didn't miss it. He said, "Now it is quite similar to a no friendly fire fireball...." He only didn't mention that this was a change.
@@kclubok conjure volley, not barrage. they skipped it in the changelog too
@@kclubok 2:17
They kind of gimped it by giving it the force damage and spectral weapons description, which hinders possible combos like lightning arrow. The upside, yes better damage and melee & ranged. All in all went from 7 to a 4.2/10
@@cufsedfox98 Regarding the force damage: A consistent theme throughout all the UAs has been that they have replaced "this damage is considered magical" with things like force or elemental damage. A fairly safe prediction is that when they get around to the monsters, there will no longer be any such thing as immunity or resistance to non-magical damage, but rather to all slashing, piercing, and bludgeoning damage, and these damage type changes are in preparation for that.
Also, Conjure Volley never synergized with Lightning Arrow, since the latter is triggered by a ranged attack roll.
Power word kill got effectively the old effect of Quivering Palm but at a much steeper costs and much worse limitations.
Tbh. Any spell nurf is good for me.we need more spell nurfs
@@yuvalgabay1023No, spells need more buffs. We need to enlarge the martial-caster divide.
@@matmajthm3222 time to take the martials caster divide wider then every one moms here .its even will make 3e blush
@@matmajthm3222
I'm joining the martial-caster war.
On the side of casters!
Just like how they've began reexploring with the Druid's Wild Shape and Rogue's Cunning Strike features, I think that they should make paladin subclass features that alter the Divine Smite (and lay on hands)... I also think that Divine Smite should revert to not taking up action economy.
that would be cool.
I like the bonus action economy. The game is about choices, so making the decision to use the bonus action or not actually adds to the fun (in my opinion).
@@MrJerks93 For the other smite spells, its worth it, but for just divine smite, at a level 1 spell slot, it isn't. I was playing a paladin last night and was using smite to try and an enemies concentration, didnt even budge them. There are other things a paladin can do with their bonus action.
@@MrJerks93 That's fair. I actually agree with both your point and the guy below you's point... And my own point, obviously. There's another idea that's even crazier but let me know what you think:
When you hit with divine smite, your health pool from lay on hands will refill by an amount equal to a portion of the radiant damage you dealt (we'll say half the amount of damage for now).
If the amount you refill it by would make it go over the maximum, then the excess can be absorbed by you as temporary hit points.
@@joshuawoodfolk8202 That's so crazy it might just work. I do like the feel of it and it reinforces the holy warrior troupe of the class. It isnvulnerable to the bag of rats exploit though so it probably needs some type of level cap related to the Paladin levels or maybe a stance you can take 1/day for a few minutes to top yourself off.
Dueling doesn't apply and I did the full damage die by accident. Sorry. It's 0.65x(2.5+4) = 4.22 average. Its a little bit more with great weapon fighting and crit but whatever, you get the point.
I love it when your voice drops down in volume at the end of a paragraph and we hear your inner "whatevs" voice. 😂
Conjure Volley and Conjure Barrage feel strangely more monkish to me now...like the flying swords cultivator in a Wuxia anime.
One correction on Vicious Mockery, Bard's can cast it if THEY can see or hear the target, but the target doesn't need to be able to see or hear the Bard.
The smite spells (which are pretty annoying overall, and have the severe downsides of being subject to Counterspell and Silence for complete shutdown) don't work with ranged weapons, but they do work with thrown melee weapons, so you can smite at range.
Special note about Searing Smite, since it's on the Divine spell list, it's available to clerics, divine bards, divine soul sorcerers, warlocks with mystic arcanum, and anyone through magic initiate. As you noted, it upcasts nicely and, since it doesn't require concentration, if you have a way of helping the CON save fail (silvery barbs, mind sliver, bane, etc.) to keep it up for the full duration, it may sometimes be worth a 9th level spell slot vs a single target (90d6 damage - 315 average damage with minimal investment). Regardless of how long the DoT is in effect, it's a decent option for melee clerics.
I wish the 7 people who move to this system well
Damn it, Kobold. You can't just cast unsaveable spells! That's railroading the party!
From all the stuff wizards of the coast keep putting out, I can only conclude this have no idea what they are doing.
The "Beckon Air" & "Beckon Earth" effects from the "Elementalism" cantrip are permanent, unlimited & boundless (the volume/area they appear is 5 foot square, but it can leave it).
-> This makes it good utility with enough time & creativity.
The Fire & Water options are temporary, but can be recasted 10 times in a row (1 minute) in the same place to "boost" its effect by 8 [effective], while using the final effect to combine it with the permanent air/dirt to make more complex stuff like waterproof ceramics or CO2 scrubbers.
[Did the calculations]: A 5x5x2.5 feet compacted, hardened sandstone bathtub (0.5 feet thick) in less than 5 hours OUT OF NOTHING (2 people can do it in 3 hours while taking a long rest, sleeping included).
-> Perfect for those times when a portable hole goes inside a bag of holding (or an evil cleric or paladin banishes you to another plane).
Well congrats wizards is gonna see this say cool player freedom then nuke it to the ground. Sorry I'm salty they did Palidin so dirty.
@@jacobgoron482 Is best to take this cantrip alongside Shape Water & Create Water ( via lvl 1 feat "Magic Initiate : Primal" for the 1 free casting ).
-> Not only to fill slowly the bathtub, but also to freeze solid the water on any crack/imperfection (ensures self_impermeabilization).
Then (ideally):
. Mending (permanent repairs/corrections), frees the one spellcaster with shape water of having to wake up once every 55 minutes.
. Prestidigitation: It can instantly plug a crack (while another casts mending), both have to work dor 1 minute.
(also): It warms the real water & cancel/improves the smell of the beckon fire smoke bubling through it (when mixing the elements).
. Create Bonfire: Quickly heating the real water to sauna levels (instead of taking hours with beckon fire & Prestid).
(optional): Mold Earth: Saves hours of making the 1/2 foot thick "base" (floor), as the compacted surface only needs the fire treatment.
-> It does require "Mother, may I...?" allowance from the DM for a source of "lose dirt" & "sand" big & near enough.
Math on smite damage is off isn't it? 5.5 is average damage of glaive d10 weapon, but you can't add dueling fighting style +2 damage to a 2handed weapon. It also uses the main dice instead of d4 for butt end polearm attack hit.
Yup, high bait
That's my bad. I messed up.
2 dice creates a bell curve, which is going to push the average up. a single die is just going to be the average of the results, which is going to be a flat percentage.
@@PackTacticsyou know what is also sad about the smite change is now you can't even smite while raging, that wasn't even the most optimal multiclass but just a badass one as thematically it would make sense to smite someone down while you are raging at them
Hunter's Mark should had the option of being casted automatically (at lvl 1, as a free action, no components, no spellslots) when rolling for initiative [recharges on a short rest].
-> Unless you are already concentrating on ~something~ out of combat ( Maybe a lvl 3 use of it casted thanks to those 4 other levels of druid? ); you would just USE that concentration "slot" until needed in the next turns/hours.
There is ONE "creature" you can always "see" (even in advanced darkness): Just blink & the "you" creature will be "on your sight" (meta-literally).
-> It technically does not work if you have the blinded condition (or the more permanent "eyes removed" trait).
Your Body is your Temple.
Also, is the Quarry you work on to extract nuggets of wisdom.
Discipline.
Divine Smite should just be a paladin class feature, as it is in 5e. IT's like the designers either don't understand the rules of the game, or are deliberately trying to make nothing usable.
I don't know if I'd compare bonus actions to Pam anymore. Its just not as meta. Most damage options are once per turn even gwm, you can't Pam with a spear anymore, and pole Arms don't have vex.
It use to be that basically no combination of spells or class features ever supplanted how much damage Pam gwm did so anything that didn't work with it was bad. But
A Pam graze doesn't do that much more damage than a dueling vex anymore. It it comes at the expense of lowering your damage with spells, then going Pam would probably lower your damage overall. But with dueling. You can still use a shield, and I think you you will find, sure, if you're a pam user, giving up a bonus action to smite isn't that appealing, but if you use,
"whatever weapon is best" your total damage doesn't go down all that much as you swap from pam to dueling for your smites to work better and as dueling is much closer in efficiency to pam
Why is it starting to feel like WotC has gone from hating martials to hating martials *and* half-casters?
Because look at how they been nerfing them any chance they get unnecessary whole buffing full casters to the moon
I mean... at least paladin and ranger get Weapon Masteries. Another supposedly "Warrior class only" feature that is being freely handed out to anyone that wants it apparently.
But barbs and monks now aren't allowed to take a FS feat unless they multi class for some reason...
Well, who is telling you they do not also have casters? It's not like they are giving wish for free to every caster, right? RIIIIIGHT?
Good stuff as always.
One notable thing for banishing smite is that in base 5e before the whole one dnd thing, you still needed to reduce the enemy to 50 or below to banish e.
Thank you for your information video
Blinded smite says "repeats its saving throw"
I think there should be an initial save but they messed the text on that line, maybe it says "it makes a con save and gets blinded", i mean, ¿you repeat a save you actually never made? Can you repeat the non-making a save? Is like a critical on a blowgun, it lets you double the weapon dice, which are nonexistent
Another one can be change the "repeat the save" with "can make a con save at the end of its turn to end the condition"
I really love the changes to searing smite, it use to be concentration and so was terrible but now is actually okay
I’m really not jelling with Divine Smite being a spell. It just doesn’t feel worth both a Spell Slot and a Bonus Action unless you score a critical hit.
And in that case you'll get 100% counterspelled
It also just feels incredibly bland. A big appeal of the divine smite feature is that it behaves in a unique way. Now they have reduced it to just another spell which has a significant action economy cost. Had divine smite launched in this state I doubt it wouldve been such a beloved feature.
And while niche, it also just killed off the barbarian multiclass with it because now they can't rage and smite at the same time
Was it the most optimal multiclass, no, but was it fun and thematic, yes
@@Xorrin holy fuck that will be terrible....
I’d love to see a combo damage multiplier added to help martial classes. If you hit multiple attacks in a row the damage should start ramping up just like in the real world. Martials should feel incredibly dangerous at their preferred range. I mean even a multiplier for attacks hit in a row wouldn’t break them but it would feel like your Monk or Samurai spiking a bunch of attacks would do insane damage and for the love of god get rid of the (the first time they deal damage) thing from Barbarians. Dealing an extra D6 on all attacks at higher levels will never be the issue with Zealots.
The only problem with this is that dnd has a bounded accuracy where you typically only have a 60% chance to hit whatever you are aiming at, 35% if you use gwm or sharpshooter. You aren't going to get very good combo streaks
yippi! the backwards compatiblity makes the conquest paladins Spiritual Weapon abit more useless if smites are bonus actions! and wrathful smite is now to bad to take for the aura of conquest interaction!
I want to play a barbarian, scimitar, dual weilding multiclass with swashbuckler! for a "hit and run" style of game play when using slasher! how do I still do that with this UA? any suggestions!?!?
Why cant cavalier fighter get a find steed 😢, give them something similar designer
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seems like elementalism also have a minor create water effect, creating a cup of clean water is pretty useful especially in hostile environment survival situation. that has to be the first cantrip that creates an element out of nothing, a bit strong for a cantrip even if its just one minute.
Beckon earth seems like possible way to reveal invisible creatures if DM is flexible
Divine smite should be a reaction to you hitting and immune to countespell
8:20 Unless the target has a decent save, legendary resistance, or is immune/resistant to fire damage, in which case the 12d12 is better since the damage is guaranteed.
They're making all the non full caster classes as weak at the monk and pre Tasha's ranger and then turning around and giving power ups to the full casters.
I'm not going to lie. The more I hear about One DnD the less interested in it I become. It sounds like for the most part, they're just nerfing pretty much everything that was strong in 5e and then replacing others with weaker features as a pretext for it.
And also buffing the living heck out of full casters, especially wizards because they obviously needed the buff didn't they
@mohammadmurie Oh they absolutely did. Now they can 1-shot a whole adventuring party at mid-levels instead of just late game XD
@kaiyamazaki1684 lmao yeah while also having a concentration spell up without needing concentration to then concentrate on another spell
But remember this was too op for a ranger to do
Eh they could do something with smite thats similar to what they did with rogue.
Sacrifice d8's to have different effects added to the smite but have those effects be more powerful.
I dont care if no other class ever gets access to smite, why should they? Give them something else like a 'elemental wrath' spell to add element damage to the next attack in a burst so rangers etc can be happy with that
Fun side note for the divine smite nerf: the spell level cap was removed. Is something paladin 3/valor bard 17 optimal? Probably not, but you get 9th level spells, and thus have a potential 9th level smite. You can also get Shillelagh as a bard now, to add in some SAD madness.
But Kobold! Would you want a homebrew option to boost martials?
I've got an idea I need to test, and it might inspire the devs if it's good and well liked.
maybe divine smite could be a reaction, while every other smite is a bonus action. This allows paladins to still smite twice in a turn, and keeps the spell relevant.
When is a PAM Attack 5.5+4+2 damage? Dice is a 1d4 so 2.5, I get 18 STR (or CHA with Pack of the Blade) for the +4, but what about the +2? (unless we are going Spear/Quarterstaff Duelling) so it should be like 4.225 with a Glaive... I mean, I still don't like the bonus action to smite thing but the numbers aren't quite so close
Pinned comment, he did an whoopsie.
So… I guess now Playtest barbarians can't gain a fighting style unless multiclassing, what a bummer, guess I'm gonna pick tough again for the next try.
To clarify, in my group we're trying the different iterations of classes presented comparing them, like, does the new paladin fall behind the barbarian? (as the most basilar of examples) And the most awaited question for us was… is monk gonna fare better than 5e? And how much is the fall in damage, compared to other martials, felt by the player?
Don't you know? Barbarians aren't "skilled" enough with weapons and different ways to use them, so it "doesn't make sense" for them to get FSs.
Just ignore that they get weapon masteries, something that is more complex and is described as running drills and practicing with the weapons in order to gain the mastery functions.
Ffs, other games like Diablo 4 show that barbarians can be just as skilled with weapons as a fighter, just in a different way.
I have and continue to dislike One D&D to the point that I will probably just ignore any news about it going forward. The only thing I *do* like about it is Exhaustion which I feel still needs a movement penalty somewhere. (ex: Every second level of exhaustion grants -5ft movement.)
I'm going to run a little campaign with those exhaustion rules, but slightly tweaked. Every level drops speed by 5 feet (so it drops to 0 around the same time normal 5e exhaustion would) and every second level, AC drops by one (dodging and blocking becoming harder the more exhausted a character becomes).
There's also a Dying condition that lets players do things at 0hp at the cost of getting exhaustion, so I might tweak the exhaustion recovery as well
Good to know that they added a marcato to searing smite.
RIP for paladin mains and well really not enjoying the direction this is going still especially class locked spells specifically cantrips but hey its me who wasn't planning on using the new edition
You didn't mention Divine Smite does extra damage against fiends and undead again which gives it more use against those over just using Searing Smite especially since most fiends are resistant or even immune to fire damage
Can someone help me understand how using a bonus action to maintain concentration would look in the game? I have no idea how to roleplay that in game, so it breaks immersion for me
Or using a bonus action to switch the target of Hunter's Mark, but I just hate that spell in general...
Mold Earth and Shape Water are gone. That is the real problem with Elementalism spell
Can't help to notice the pattern of saying there are now better things to than use Hunter's Mark and Divine Smite, which I think is entirely the point. There are ton of different smite spells and different flavors to explore.
But the funny thing is the rangers capstone feature literally requires them to have hunter's mark up and concentrating on it to do anything
@@mohammadmurie I'm sure people still still run Hunter's Mark alot during fights. But I appreciate a bit of just nudging players away from one all situation strategy.
Even with it weaker, I don't have an issue with centering Hunter's Mark as a core part of the Ranger. Even if it's not an amazing capstone that should be rewritten.
I'd be cool with a subclass that added stuff to your Hunter's Mark as a main feature. But also happy if some Rangers will almost never use hunters mark.
@@hallopino You can nudge towards alternative options by improving the class overall such that you don't need to gun for the optimal options to keep pace with a wizard who can take the good shit like Shield with room to spare for fun other options. They don't need to be mutually exclusive abilities, let me Divine Smite and use the different other smites at the same time
The banishing smite only really works if the gm actually tells you the monsters hp
Spells designed around playstyles that involve staying in melee combat should not require Concentration. I get that they do this to prevent people from stacking effects, but just make the effects instantaneous or specify that spells with the "smite" tag don't stack.
Power Word Kill should just do a ton of damage. None of this, "if they have less than 100 HP, they die". Just have the attack do enough damage that if they have less than 100 HP, they are probably going to die.
Im still waiting for the spells ua. This js truly the make it or break it Chang to 5.5 . Spells are the mine reason for martials caster divide ..so many spells are so good its invaladet martiels..and I'm talking mainly on save or sucks but also alot of utility spells. Which alot dont halp you over come a problem. They just solve the problem
Hunter;s Mark should be a cantrip.
Can't wait to have my 5th level divine smite crit counterspelled.
Honestly that you cannot use protection on yourself is garbage and personally I have always thought of this fighting style as garbage, cause the opportunity to use this is quite limited and the resource required(a reaction) can do something else instead. If usable on yourself you can at least get a small defensive buff to your group each round, but whatever I am not designing this I simply change the rules so that they are more fun if the group is experienced and is into that sort of thing.
Most of the new smites are awful, but especially divine smite. Assuming a +4 Str, Quarter Staff & shield, Dueling, P.A.M, Flex Weapon Mastery & a 65% chance to hit, here's the results:
Round 1:
Divine Favor:
[ (2d8+12) + (2d4) ] * 0.65 = 16.9
Divine Smite (Assuming minimum 1 hit):
(2d8+12)*0.65 + 9 = 22.65
Round 2+:
Divine Favor:
[ (2d8 + 1d4 + 18) + (3d4) ] * 0.65 = 24.05
Divine Smite is unchanged at 22.65 (but requires a 2nd spell slot).
So if combat lasts 2 rounds, smiting twice nets you 4.35 more damage at cost of 2x the spell slots.
Smites have never been an efficient use of spell slots in terms of pure damage, but their nova potential gave them purpose. Now they're just a trap or there in case you crit.
As always, you're making great content! Thumbs up!
In general, WOTC have mad a lot of bad choices, I am guessing they're becoming greedier.
There's already a HUGE gap between martials and casters, both when concerning a caster's utility in and out of combat and the general basic combat power of each class. Casters get a lot of additional power besides their features like spell slots whereas martials are missing a continuous feature that grants them more strength besides their features. I know the rogue has sneak attack which gradually becomes better, but really, rogues are weak already.
This gap become more and more apparent as you become a higher level. However, this gap can be mended a bit with a skilled DM that effectively helps the players set up short and long rests.
There's too many things in 5E that are dependent on a DM creating something new or creating a new ruling to make the game more intuitive and meaningful. Most tools can't produce anything and are barely used.
While I admit they're less powerful, if all spells that used to bump every attack instead bump one per round, I'll be happy with the change as it makes more options viable. I'm fine with non-spell options competing with spells just for the occasional build differences.
I would agree with ya that branding smite would be better than Divine smite if it was not for the fact that 50+% of all dnd monsters are resistant or immune to fire damage, and like monsters that i can barely count on my hand resistant to Radiant. Fire spells have always done a lot on numbers but Wizards of the cost does this to balance out how bad it is in the grand scheme on how many monster don't give a shit about fire.
I think PWK should just do the 12d12 damage regardless of the target's health and if it they end up with under 100 they die, maybe add a a wisdom or int save to take half damage, idk just spitballing
So, Hex and Hunter's Mark can only cause damage once a turn? Or is that JUST Hunter's Mark? They UPPDED the damage for Hex to compensate but you have to cast a higher level spell... Man I want the old Warlock spell casting back! Is the Survey open for this yet because I have a LOT to say on this one!
Fighting Style question - Do Monks or even Open Hand Monks get Fighting Style? No. Pretty sure it's no but please correct me.
Survey opens on 20th. Spears ready friend
Hunter's Mark and Hex both got the same changes. Treantmonk did an interesting analysis showing that the debuff isn't as bad as it first seems - if you upcast it for the higher damage. This is because you get the full damage boost from it even if you only hit with one of your attacks.
@kclubok thank you. I saw that video but didn't quite understand why he was so happy until you said it like that. I still don't like the issue as half casters you have to spend the higher spell slot. I mean, how many do you get as a HALF caster? Then it scaled with the number of successful attacks, it still only cost you a 1st lvl spell slot.
@@Zr0din Even as a half caster, the upcast spell slot isn't an issue, since you can keep it going all day for one upcast slot. The real problem is that it takes your concentration, and you likely have better things to do with your concentration.
Divine Smite is still good if you use it on crits (a 5th level slot transforms into 12d8 extra damage with no saves).
But it's still needlessly worse which is what's being complained about?
Due to the bonus action cost it new creates an awkward situation where you have to save your bonus action untill after your attacks, just in case you need it for smite. I could see the reasoning behind having divine smite be once per turn, but the bonus action seems like overkill
I thought in One D&D crits only apply to weapon damage. Or did they change that back?
@@1Bearsfan thats why, smites are added to the weapon damage. JC already confirmed that smites get doubled ok crits (watch the druid/paladin review).
so a monk had 4 asi's to max out dex and wis. with their 5th to play with a single feat. Now they might need the 5th to pop dex or wis to 22. So no fun feats for the monk.
I dunno if this is OP or not, but we ran PWK as an instant death if the target is at 50% or less ot if their full HP is sub 100. It saw far more play
Never can any one say that WotC doesnt have it out for martial characters because they just keep on nerfing the shite out of them with any chance they get
It seems they are not familiar with the different types of 'action' and how we use them...
They got rid of the Ritual casting feats. As someone who likes to play support type characters this makes me sad. I enjoyed collecting the Ritual spells.
I think they intentionally made divine smite costlier/worse to motivate paladins to try out the other cool smites instead of sticking to the big damage button. Wish they would make some of the other smite effects more consistent though
Bruh before you could actually smite and as a bonus action do another smite.... Essentialy attacking with 2 smites at the same time... Now there are even less options and I doubt everyone love having less options
@@Joey-666 that never felt intended tho, even if it was technically RAW
If they wanted to get away from Monk being the Asian class, then why didn't they make a West Europe style Scholar Monk based on INT that can double as a Investigator/Lore/skill monkey? Seems like an easy and obvious option, but the base class is so weak you can't make it a skill based character because it still doesn't have spells (except maybe guidance cantrip) and it's too weak in combat to be an asset to the group. Monk still creates liabilities just being present! So sad!
Because they still want a punch-guy, and likely so does most of 5e players but they wanna move away from "asian" cause twitter ballerinas get their panties twisted.
So for some reason instead of moving away from it completely and going for a more "brawler" focused pugilist who can take a hit and still stand, they kept the "I'm gonna be dodging and do kung-fu shit, but it's called differently so it's 100% not kung-fu"
I was excited when they originally announced they were moving away from the explicitly Asian-themed old version of monk because I thought they were moving towards a brawler martial artist. Then we saw they just renamed everything that was there and did no meaningful changes to the worst class in the game
was that a typo or is searing smite free of concentration now?
Where’s Gator???
Power Word Kill should do 8d12 + 50. Disintegrate does 106.5 going by average.
Kobold and Gator, can you make a video about OSE/OSR and your appointments?
Bye bye, Gator 🐊
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I'll hopefully make more Worlds without number in the future.
@@PackTacticsyou should read low fantasy gaming i think you will love some of mechanics there like thr exploit system
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So shinning Smite last for the 1 minute and does 2d6 each hit? I mean, it's worth it for that alone. Then Advantage makes it more likely you'll hit.
The damage only affects the attack, you use it when you hit with an attack. The effect lasts one minute.
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Aren't smites garbage regardless in One D&D since they nerfed crits? Or did they fix that?
Instead of making the spell Elementalism, they could have just given Four Elements Monk four cantrips, Mold Earth, Shape Water, Gust and Control Flames. More powerful spells and it would really make the FE Monk feel more powerful and very useful in out of combat utility
"We could to that, but we think our players are crayon eaters who get overwhelmed when presented with 4 spells I stead of 1" -Crawford, probably
Elementalism feels like WotC trying to consolidate Control Flame, Shape Water, Gust and Mold Earth into one spell.
But it's not good enough to substitute all the former spells IMHO..
Wait doesn't this mean you can counter spell smites now?
Wotc really loves buffing wizards and nerfing everything else... Unnecessarily too...
Epic feats should have never existed in the first place.
I feel like they want to make divine smite the smite you only use for fighting fiends and undead, to incentivise you to use other smites