The Tool Comparison Could Have Been Better With This Explanation!
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- Опубликовано: 4 июн 2020
- Today, we are addressing the "elephant in the room" on my recent video 👇👇👇 If you missed it check link below!
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I think most of us understood what you were trying to do and the other video was a good comparison between top dollar and budget. Personally, I would have got a Ridgid.
I can't help but notice that the motor on the Jet and the motor of the disc grinder look basically identical. I can't stop staring at it.
I've had one of these Jet sanders for about 15 years. I think I paid around $400 for it brand new at Woodcraft with the stand included. Just for fun I just checked online to see what the price is today...$960 and the stand is NOT included! I almost fell out of my chair! I like mine...it's a beast. But you do want to sand on the right side of the disk sander...not the left side. A weak point in this model seems to be the on/off switch. Mine went out some time ago so I just shorted across the leads and used an external on/off switch. I finally found a heavy duty DPDT toggle switch so I replaced my shorting wires with the switch and it's working fine. I have also ordered some casters so I can put it on wheels.
I think you you did a fine job! I wasn't expecting the HF to out-perform the Jet. You gave us what we needed to make an informed choice based upon our needs. Eagerly awaiting "The Big Project"!!
Great! Its coming Soon!
Grizzly makes one a lot like the HF one but made of better materials and probably a LOT better quality for less than $150. I have the HF and it works well enough for small projects but I wish I'd spent a bit more and bought one a bit nicer
@Crankston Shnord couldn't agree more. My HF sander was a great addition, just wish the motor was a tick more beefy.
You ok Jim. Don’t worry about the little things it helped me decide on what I am going to get. For what I will be doing it’s HF . Was glad to see one in use. Thank ya!!
Yes sir! 👍
I actually thought that’s what you were doing anyway. Thanks for the clarification though!
Hf actually makes an awesome 6x48 belt/disc sander. The 4x36 can be ok if you take the time to move the motor back and tension the belt
I'm in the market for a belt/disc sander.. this helped.
Glad to help!
The funny thing is that I purchased the small HF machine about a week ago, and have not opened it. The sanders I wanted were currently unavailable due to Covid-19, so I went to HF to buy the smaller one since they had it in stock, and I could put it into use even though it was smaller than what I wanted for my project. Now I will have to see if HF has the larger one available instead since my current budget does not include the Jet.
Your all good, your videos are very informative!!! Keep doing what your doing!!
Thanks Joey!
thanks for clarification. great channel
You did fine. Thanks for the comparison!
Life is short. Get the best tools you can afford. "Justifying the cost" in woodworking is a losing proposition. Love your videos, man. Keep up the good work. Keep buying and using good tools.
I’ve always been a firm believer in buying the best tools you can afford,I bought the harbor freight 12 inch disc just to touch up ends and round corners l don’t need the belt but if it would be something I used all the time I’d buy better quality.
It makes sense to buy a cheap tool if the accuracy doesn’t matter, sanding is sanding, where it make better sense to upgrade is tools like table saws or bandsaws. How often you use a tool is also an deciding factor. I’m in the market for a spindle sander which I predict I’ll use often, the “trueness” of a spindle sander is more important to me than a disc so I plan to purchase a higher quality machine. Thanks for your candor and video, I’ll be following you because of it.
Thanks Steve!
Just remember if its spinning clockwise then you need to sand on the right hand side of the disc to avoid it from kicking up and out of your hand and causing injury.
For sure! 👍
For sure! 👍
I bought the Wen brand 4x36 with the 6” disk and i use it all the time and it has performed excellently. It has great dust collection and is plenty powerful. I think I paid $120.
Good to know! Thanks Rusty
Thanks for your clarification but actually your review of HF persuaded me to get one since my shop is my garage and space is of priority.
Hey Mark! Let me know what you think about it!
You seem to be a very nice person, Jim. I understood what you meant with the first video and with this one also. Your attitude in posting this second video is more than enough, shows great respect to the viewers. Thanks for the content!
I think you still should have purchased the larger one at Harbor Freight, which is exactly like the one you got from jet, but it’s half the price that would have been the one to get and compare it to that would be apples to apples now yes I understand that jet is still going to be a lot nicer than the Harbor Freight. I mean it cost $300 more but you also get a stand with it and it sits on the floor and it’s up as high as your desk so you know that in itself is handy and you have a one horsepower motor but like I said, the jet is still going to be a better belt center, but you could have a betterway of comparing them
Among other tools I own, I have a few from Harbor Freight. I always consider the eventual use of the tool. For a lot of folks, Harbor Freight is good enough. For me, the ones I have from Harbor Freight are good enough. I don't expect to use them all day long for months at a time. For endless use, there are other brands.
I just subscribed to your channel. Very happy to have found it!
Joe Venable great! Welcome!
I hope your going to move the sander from where you set it, or put it on a rotating base of some sort. Where it is now, the disc part will be hard to use. I would think having it on a corner so you have access to both would be best.
I think for right now it will be there! I may eventually need to do some rearranging!
I think for right now it will be there! I may eventually need to do some rearranging!
I'm going to talk as if we are not in a pandemic so to do my better now as well as to give you from 39 years of woodworking myself. A $400 saw breaks down for the same reasons as the $100 harbor freight does due to user's neglect. Therefore for working on job-site you will conclude the same as me unless you do exclusive individual work. I fabricate in shop with so-called more expensive toys that I have modified for special tasks and I am redundant in my number of tools selfishly throwing nothing away, as well as the cheapest I can get a hold of to install on-site for my help. No compromise. The difference is only a work place I get my work integrity from and joy of it and a place that I show my scars of learning cheaper is better because expensive, is usually the same product doing more stuff that you don't need to do on a job site. $300 saved is $300 earned.
You are right i worked in construction for 34 years and have owned many tools until i hurt my back and had to be put on disability, i lost a lot of tools selling them trying to pay bills until i got put on disability so now I'm trying to buy back a few tools so i can do a little stuff at home to keep from going insane not being able to work, not being able to work makes me feel bad not being able to work
Really the question is "do I want a tool I can grow into or out of?" Then again there ar lifers as in Laguna or General. Which tool will do the job at hand and are you likely to require it for more in the future? I have been doing this for over 40yrs and have bought and sold a lot of equipment because, frankly, things change in your shop or which direction you are headed or how much space you have. I learned by buying tools that were inadequate or poorly made and underpowered. I have had 3 tablesaws, 3 jointers, 2 bandsaws, 3 drillpresses and just never mind the hand tools....thats a whole other story. At least get SOMETHING!. If it doesnt work sell it to someone else and geet a better one.
Thank you Paul for your comment! Your experience and perspective is much appreciated.
@@lastingbuild1373 Some lessons are hard learned but not forgotten.
Shopping in a hardware store is probably the best place to run into problems that will cost you. No one knows the products, they have no experience, they only sell hobby level tools, and supplies are limited. Go to a power tool centre and talk the the guys that sell power tools all day long. I recently purchased the top level drillpress from Home Depot here in Vancouver. Gutless and poorly put together even though it was a Porter Cable. Fortunately I was able to return it and was able to get an entry level 17in from KMS Tools and it is working as I hoped. Fortunately it was on sale and was basically a $200 upgrade. I was hoping to save some money but that didnt work out well.
As a auto mechanic (snap on), gone diesel mechanic, gone millwright (proto and Pittsburg), I have learned that the expensive brands are pretty much an ego trip. Of course the pro brands will last a life time. But why would you buy a pro tool for something that gets used once a blue moon. Like a set of wrenches for a mechanic need to be damn good quality. But my daughter, who is mechanic capable doesnt need a pro set. Just something that will securely grab a bolt and do the job when it is needed. As a pro I still bought some cheap tools if the usage was going to be low and never had a problem. I completely get buying HF if you are rarely going to us a tool.
Thanks for sharing your experience!
Good job!
If I'm needing to remove a lot of material, I use a saw...
Yup, mud has been cleared, 😁 I've made my share of dumb statements, nothing like a YT video to keep you humble. I have the larger HF sander over 12 years now, I use it for metal, wood and the occasional finger, It's been a great machine, I can't remember what I paid for it but it was a worthwhile investment.
I thought it was a decent video. Anyone can clearly understand a $600.00 sander versus a $60.00 who is going to come out on top. I was struggling with a similar issue and at this particular time realize I can use a cheaper model then move up to a better one when the budget or workflow would warrant the decision.
Perhaps you would, in the end, be happy "enough" with the HF if you never used the Jet or another similar high-quality machine because you probably wouldn't realize the real differences, but, now that you have tried both, I'm sure at some point you'll be happy you did buy the Jet and its cost won't become a factor anymore. And FYI, now that you do have it, you'll end up using it more than you ever thought you would. And, one thing to consider when reading positive reviews about what really are in many ways substandard/homeowner tools is, many if not all of these people are at best weekend worriers and more than likely have no other comparison to judge the benefits of working with professional type equipment, and that's what these tools are designed for. Someone who uses them occasionally at most and doesn't see the need to spend money on better tools.
I appreciated the original video. Sometime you wonder if it’s worth 10x. I thought you did a nice job of pointing out what a lot more money gets or/and doesn’t.
Norman Gennaro thanks!
I just like what you say down to earth comments
Thanks Bill!
No worries man. I knew what you meant.
I saw your initial video and you did a great job of comparing the two sanders even though the prices are at extreme ends of the scale. Subscribed! I missed the elephant....or the room was very big.
Dear Jim, don't be so upset. I beieve a lot of people are very satisfied with your video. I only would like to add something to your honest explanations; One description for quality is "fit for purpose". HF might fit someone's purpose more than anyone in the world.
mmm maybe if you do a video like this next time do it from view as a budget alternative.
Think had you tried the larger HF model it would be the one sitting on your bench. I am not a huge HF guy but that is one tool you would regret owning! Do I dare say you are making a mistake and I say that using your reasoning!
Well done.
Jim, just hope that is the biggest mistake that you make in the coming months. An idiot should have seen the obvious difference and that you weren't really comparing them as much as just doing 2 reviews on 2 different products. I have the HF 8" & 6x48 unit. for the normal guy, the HF is probably fine. If you are a pro, then get pro tools.