Yeah because the 3800 is newer. When new version of the 4010 comes out it will once again take the higher position. I would take the 3800 because of price and 60 hertz as well. Feel free to reach out if you'd like to get the best pricing on one of these units. Thanks divineavinc@gmail
I don't see $1,000 worth of difference...especially as the 3800 is $1300! And the 5050 is still at the regular price of $3000! That is a $1700 difference in 2022!
Yeah, we tried that but unfortunately the light from one projector bleeds to the next so that's a really bad way of doing it. Don't worry we have a very cool plan for a future video. Stay tuned. Also check out our TV vs projector because that one is side-by-side essentially since bleed over is not an issue
Hi, in the 3800, in the advance menus , could you have adjusted the gamma settings (just a little) to intensify the black levels, and perhaps pair it with a .85 gain gray screen? I’ve done that, and it really changed the game for contrast and black levels, in addition to super resolution and image enhancement preset (3).
Mark-did u tweak the gamma settings from 0 to -1, or just the custom, setting? I'm figuring out how to accurately do the latter if u could advise. Thanks!
Hello! Can you tell me the maximum distance throws on these two projectors? We are replacing a DLP projector in a church. The distance from the projector to the screen is 60 ft. (18.28 m). The image size is 14 fl. (4.2672 m) in a high ambient environment.
They aren’t bright enough for those specs. I’d recommend a commercial projector with 8000 plus lumens. An ALR screen would be nice. Feel free to reach out. We will help you get the best unit and pricing. Warren Divine Audio Visual Divineavinc@gmail.com
3:14 question is: are those overexposed areas on a man's forehead actual output of the 3800 or the capturing camera exposure was set in such a way that it got overexposed? Cause the same scene on the 4050 4:14 is pretty dark to the point that there is a loss in a shadow detail (don't confuse with black level).
We are a custom integrator and we sell the products across the United States. Feel free to reach out at Divineavinc@gmail and we'll get you the best price
@@DivineAV okay that's good to know........ I am a huge Amazon shopper so that's one thing I like about the other guys who do videos on projectors........ They always put the Amazon link.... If You guys can beat the Amazon price I'm with you LOL
@@venom215es Just let us know what you need man and we'll get you the best price. You can reach us at (214) 600-4144 Tuesday-Friday between 930 and 530 or email us anytime at DIVINEAVINC@GMAIL.COM
@@DivineAV okay awesome right now I'm debating between the uhd60 and the BenQ 3550.... I'm doing a lot of research on RUclips and online when I think I'm pushing towards the uhd60
The 4050 only supports 30 hz in 4k HDR, the 3800 is a newer model and actually supports 4k 60hz. That being said we'd recommend the 3800 if it's specifically for gaming purposes due to that faster refresh rate. If you're looking for a price quote call us up at 2146004144, we offer nationwide free shipping as well the most competitive pricing.
@@DivineAV thanks I went with the with the 3800 its a very nice projector the blacks are aceptable with a white screen but with my cinegray 5 it’s actually amazing very dark blacks. I still wish i could afford the 5050ub but this one is great for now
@@charlysti6299 on your next purchase hit us up my friend. We can offer free shipping and the best deal you can find out there. Honestly hold out for a bit, new projectors are coming out constantly and we can find you a true 4k 60hz or more gaming projector for the best price! Thanks for the support and remember to hit us up when you're looking to upgrade! Happy gaming bro!!!
The lamp cost is pretty similar. It's between about three hundred and $400 depending on the dealer. You can call us for the best price. The Epson 4050 actually comes with a spare in the Box. The only downside is, the 40-50 is backordered for the next month or so. We have the 3800 in stock. Feel free to reach out if you need any products because we provide the best price in the nation and free shipping. We also include 90 days of complimentary Tech Support over the phone. You can contact us at Divineavinc@gmail Thanks for watching in the appreciate your support of the channel
You need an AV receiver. Basically you hook up your source such as a Roku, Apple TV, Blu-ray player, DVD player, PC Etc to one of the inputs on the receiver using an HDMI cable and then you run another HDMI cable out of the monitor out on the receiver to HDMI 1 input on the home Cinema 1060. Speakers connect to the receiver and that's how you get sound off of your source. If you're trying to do a portable setup, you could plug your content source into an audio extractor www.amazon.com/dp/B074HHSJVN/ref=cm_sw_r_em_apa_i_gGbGEbKX5H908 And then take a 3.5mm male/Male cable and plug it into a powered speaker with a line input jack. Make sure your Source such as Roku, Apple TV etc has the audio settings set to PCM. Thanks for watching! Please Subscribe for more!
@Divine AV home theater Do you know if the Epson projectors have the same issue of 3-4 inches light bar around edges of the image like Optoma UHD50's models?
So that's caused by poor contrast. Optoma projectors are not very good overall in my opinion but especially in the contrast range. You will see that a bit on the 3800 and less on the 4050. The higher you go in contrast the less you're going to see that. I would recommend the 6050 or something like the Sony 295 ES to almost to the eliminate that all together. Feel free to reach out if you need any products and we will get you the absolute best price and free shipping. Thanks so much for watching my friend and I appreciate the support. Divineavinc@gmail
Great info and cool presenters. SUSCRBIBED! Can you recommend a screen for the 3800? PJ is installed in a light controlled room with white walls and with an 80'' white screen 1. 1 Gain. Thanks!
The smaller the screen (say 77”), the closer the projector and tighter focused the light. So brighter results. I’d say that if you stay under a 110” screen (aprox), you’d be able to deal with a descent amount of ambient light in the room. 150” screen and up and you’ll want it in a darker environment. So sweet spot for using it in dark as well as with some lights on with a reasonable size screen is probably a screen between 90” to 120”. That’s if you want to be able to have some ambient light on in the room, when you feel like it. But yeah, you could go with a 200” inch screen but the room would have to be lights off.
I have the 3800 as a portable outdoor setup with a 120” elite screen and it’s Fantastic! Everyone who comes over says it looks as good as their 77” 4k lcd screen but this is 120”! Very bright and super crisp. It was the sweet spot for me. I think best performance at this price point. I’m picky too…I have 3 OLED TV’s, one an 83”. They are obviously better but this is no slouch by 😊any means.
You can use this video as a reference. The 4010 is identical to the 4050. Its just white. Let me know if you need a projector. We ship Nationwide for free and have a best price guarantee. If you have anymore questions and specifications or any recommendations I'd be happy to get on the phone with you. 214-600-4144
@@jbbarne2 the 4050 comes with a spare lamp, Chief Pro mounting bracket, Cord cover for hiding HDMI and power and 3 year warranty instead of 2. Picture quality is the same.
@@jbbarne2 you can shoot me an email at Divineavinc@gmail and I'll get you an estimate. Let me know if you need a mount or any accessories and I can bundle them. There's a slight delay right now on Epson projectors because of the current situation. I'll check inventory as well
Thanks for installing my 4050, couldn't be happier.
You're very welcome my friend! Thanks for the support!
That’s a lot of hand clapping. Great job and informative video.
4010 vs. 3800? Primary concern for me is the lack of 18Gb/s HDMI on the 4010 which is present on the 3800.
Yeah because the 3800 is newer. When new version of the 4010 comes out it will once again take the higher position. I would take the 3800 because of price and 60 hertz as well. Feel free to reach out if you'd like to get the best pricing on one of these units. Thanks divineavinc@gmail
I don't see $1,000 worth of difference...especially as the 3800 is $1300! And the 5050 is still at the regular price of $3000! That is a $1700 difference in 2022!
When you say side-by-side, I was expecting actual side-by-side. You did back and forth. 😒
Yeah, we tried that but unfortunately the light from one projector bleeds to the next so that's a really bad way of doing it. Don't worry we have a very cool plan for a future video. Stay tuned. Also check out our TV vs projector because that one is side-by-side essentially since bleed over is not an issue
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look the same to me, but then again the playback on the video is caped at 1080p, so that might make a little difference
Hi, in the 3800, in the advance menus , could you have adjusted the gamma settings (just a little) to intensify the black levels, and perhaps pair it with a .85 gain gray screen?
I’ve done that, and it really changed the game for contrast and black levels, in addition to super resolution and image enhancement preset (3).
Hi! I'm interested! I'm looking how to improve the blacks in the 3800. Could you please share? Kind regards
Mark-did u tweak the gamma settings from 0 to -1, or just the custom, setting? I'm figuring out how to accurately do the latter if u could advise. Thanks!
Hello!
Can you tell me the maximum distance throws on these two projectors? We are replacing a DLP projector in a church. The distance from the projector to the screen is 60 ft. (18.28 m). The image size is 14 fl. (4.2672 m) in a high ambient environment.
They aren’t bright enough for those specs. I’d recommend a commercial projector with 8000 plus lumens. An ALR screen would be nice. Feel free to reach out. We will help you get the best unit and pricing.
Warren
Divine Audio Visual
Divineavinc@gmail.com
Wow that's a awsome video Warren. Keep up the great work buddy
Thanks buddy. We had fun making it.
You should split the image to really see the difference
Which is better for 3D? Are generally speaking what is the best 3D projector that also does 4K?
Your channel is gonna grow. Just keep putting out good videos and the viewers and subs are going to come.
Thanks buddy. Appreciate the support!
Would the 3800 be better or at least decent on a 9'x16' outdoor gray screen with the brighter lumens? Thanks!!
Without a doubt, brightness is going to be key and definitely don't use a white screen. You're on the right track.
3:14 question is: are those overexposed areas on a man's forehead actual output of the 3800 or the capturing camera exposure was set in such a way that it got overexposed? Cause the same scene on the 4050 4:14 is pretty dark to the point that there is a loss in a shadow detail (don't confuse with black level).
Its nice cuZ u use a special projector screenn . why not try on a regular full white projector screen
Great videos and good information on the product.
Only thing I think you guys need to do is put a link below so we know where to purchase it
We are a custom integrator and we sell the products across the United States. Feel free to reach out at Divineavinc@gmail and we'll get you the best price
@@DivineAV
okay that's good to know........
I am a huge Amazon shopper so that's one thing I like about the other guys who do videos on projectors........
They always put the Amazon link....
If You guys can beat the Amazon price I'm with you LOL
@@venom215es Just let us know what you need man and we'll get you the best price. You can reach us at
(214) 600-4144 Tuesday-Friday between 930 and 530 or email us anytime at DIVINEAVINC@GMAIL.COM
@@DivineAV okay awesome right now I'm debating between the uhd60 and the BenQ 3550....
I'm doing a lot of research on RUclips and online when I think I'm pushing towards the uhd60
4050 is twice the price and it’s definitely better. 3800 seems like a good budget projector
Great video and Good quality of the video too!!
For gaming at 60 in 4k which one is better, I like the 5050 but its out of my price range
The 4050 only supports 30 hz in 4k HDR, the 3800 is a newer model and actually supports 4k 60hz. That being said we'd recommend the 3800 if it's specifically for gaming purposes due to that faster refresh rate. If you're looking for a price quote call us up at 2146004144, we offer nationwide free shipping as well the most competitive pricing.
@@DivineAV 3800 will go nicely with ps5
@@DivineAV thanks I went with the with the 3800 its a very nice projector the blacks are aceptable with a white screen but with my cinegray 5 it’s actually amazing very dark blacks. I still wish i could afford the 5050ub but this one is great for now
@@charlysti6299 on your next purchase hit us up my friend. We can offer free shipping and the best deal you can find out there. Honestly hold out for a bit, new projectors are coming out constantly and we can find you a true 4k 60hz or more gaming projector for the best price! Thanks for the support and remember to hit us up when you're looking to upgrade!
Happy gaming bro!!!
@@DivineAV Do you guys sell products to Canada? It sounds like you guys are awesome A/V guys!
How much are the lamp replacements between the two projectors?
The lamp cost is pretty similar. It's between about three hundred and $400 depending on the dealer. You can call us for the best price. The Epson 4050 actually comes with a spare in the Box. The only downside is, the 40-50 is backordered for the next month or so. We have the 3800 in stock. Feel free to reach out if you need any products because we provide the best price in the nation and free shipping. We also include 90 days of complimentary Tech Support over the phone. You can contact us at Divineavinc@gmail
Thanks for watching in the appreciate your support of the channel
4050 is way more buttoned up, especially processing wise
Love the video I do have a question for you I own a epson home cinema 1060 and want to hook up a speaker how would I do that ? Hopefully you respond!
You need an AV receiver. Basically you hook up your source such as a Roku, Apple TV, Blu-ray player, DVD player, PC Etc to one of the inputs on the receiver using an HDMI cable and then you run another HDMI cable out of the monitor out on the receiver to HDMI 1 input on the home Cinema 1060. Speakers connect to the receiver and that's how you get sound off of your source.
If you're trying to do a portable setup, you could plug your content source into an audio extractor www.amazon.com/dp/B074HHSJVN/ref=cm_sw_r_em_apa_i_gGbGEbKX5H908
And then take a 3.5mm male/Male cable and plug it into a powered speaker with a line input jack.
Make sure your Source such as Roku, Apple TV etc has the audio settings set to PCM.
Thanks for watching! Please Subscribe for more!
The 4050 is the same as a 4010 right and has HDMI 1.4???? Is it that big of a deal to go 1.4? IM afraid the 3800 will be too bright in my room.
@Divine AV home theater Do you know if the Epson projectors have the same issue of 3-4 inches light bar around edges of the image like Optoma UHD50's models?
So that's caused by poor contrast. Optoma projectors are not very good overall in my opinion but especially in the contrast range. You will see that a bit on the 3800 and less on the 4050. The higher you go in contrast the less you're going to see that. I would recommend the 6050 or something like the Sony 295 ES to almost to the eliminate that all together. Feel free to reach out if you need any products and we will get you the absolute best price and free shipping. Thanks so much for watching my friend and I appreciate the support.
Divineavinc@gmail
3800 no Wi-Fi transfer?
Very informative.....as always. Well presented....thanks for sharing 👍👍
You are very welcome. Thanks for watching!
Do you have this in some sort of "dynamic" picture setting?
Great info and cool presenters. SUSCRBIBED!
Can you recommend a screen for the 3800? PJ is installed in a light controlled room with white walls and with an 80'' white screen 1. 1 Gain. Thanks!
The same all are great
Good video
Nice
What picture mode did you use for both? Movie, standard or other?
Bright Cinema I believe.
3800 Wins!! Brighter always wins!!👍
What screen size did you perform your tests on? Is there ideal projection screen size for the epson 3800?
The smaller the screen (say 77”), the closer the projector and tighter focused the light.
So brighter results.
I’d say that if you stay under a 110” screen (aprox), you’d be able to deal with a descent amount of ambient light in the room.
150” screen and up and you’ll want it in a darker environment.
So sweet spot for using it in dark as well as with some lights on with a reasonable size screen is probably a screen between 90” to 120”. That’s if you want to be able to have some ambient light on in the room, when you feel like it.
But yeah, you could go with a 200” inch screen but the room would have to be lights off.
I have the 3800 as a portable outdoor setup with a 120” elite screen and it’s Fantastic! Everyone who comes over says it looks as good as their 77” 4k lcd screen but this is 120”! Very bright and super crisp. It was the sweet spot for me. I think best performance at this price point. I’m picky too…I have 3 OLED TV’s, one an 83”. They are obviously better but this is no slouch by 😊any means.
Anyone know how much input lag there projectors have?
3800 Lowest input lag roughly 20.5ms. 4050 roughly 28ms input lag. Thanks for watching
Question. How would you compare the 3800 to the 4010?
You can use this video as a reference. The 4010 is identical to the 4050. Its just white.
Let me know if you need a projector. We ship Nationwide for free and have a best price guarantee. If you have anymore questions and specifications or any recommendations I'd be happy to get on the phone with you. 214-600-4144
@@DivineAV if it is the same, why a $500 to $600 dollar difference in price?
@@jbbarne2 the 4050 comes with a spare lamp, Chief Pro mounting bracket, Cord cover for hiding HDMI and power and 3 year warranty instead of 2. Picture quality is the same.
@@DivineAV I what is your cost on a 4010?
@@jbbarne2 you can shoot me an email at Divineavinc@gmail and I'll get you an estimate. Let me know if you need a mount or any accessories and I can bundle them. There's a slight delay right now on Epson projectors because of the current situation. I'll check inventory as well
I got the 3800 but it wont work with my 4k player
Its probably your hdmi cable. Make sure its an HDMI 2.0 HDCP 2.2 Certified Cable
The 4050 is almost twice the size
In 2022 it's $1700 more!
You can’t see it from here
No difference. IMHO
I wish channels would put international model numbers a swell when talking about tech.... we don't all live in the Americas.
Which origin do you live in? I'll gladly do a bit of research and find which model numbers are accurate in your area
The 3800 is the Epson EH TW 7100 i belive :)