WOW thank you so much for the support and comments on this vid !! i promise i will try to get to all of them, i appreciate all the added insight and every comment really makes my day...thank you!!
I understand the pain of having gravity falls stuck in your head. Legit the same exact problem and situation 😭. IM NOT EVEN JOKING IVE BEEN WATCH BILLFORD VIDS LEFT AND RIGHT. IVE EVEN HAD A DREAM ABOUT EM. Im in too deep SOMEONE HELP ME!!!
Another point on Bill, he tries EXTRA hard to get Ford to join him, and just holds golden Ford all during weirdmagedon, he really wanted Ford with him. He even asked Ford to join him before he knew about the barrier! Ford isn't some fool Bill was using, he actually genuinely loved him, his love just couldn't outweigh his ego. Which makes the abuse even more haunting and realistic Congrats on the divorce Stanford
I totally agree!!! I think the grief of killing his own parents caused Bill to develop ASPD (Basically caused him to be a sociopath), which makes it really hard for Bill to truly love anyone but himself. But he got close with ford.
My favourite part of BillFord is the happy ending, Ford reconnects with Fiddleford and Stanley, he makes new connections, he's happy and over Bill Sure he feels bittersweet and all, but Bill no longer has any power over him, he knows Bill is full of shit, he doesn't worry about him anymore. Meanwhile Bill got what was coming for him, he got outsmarted and now he's in therapy where he can't hurt anyone anymore, left to cry about his divorce.
The minute I got to Bill taking Ford's body for a joyride I realized why this was an adult book. Not the haha funny fuck words, but for the active handling of a toxic, abusive relationship in it's entirety. That scene was CHILLING and I ATE IT UP. I'm still waiting for the inevitable Hana Hyperfixates video on it, but I'm happy to watch yours absolutely as well in the mean time!
The page where Bill talks to Ford in his mind about how Ford was powerless and how Bill could literally make him forget everything made me shiver. I loved the scene so much that I kept rereading it because of how well written it is. Like?? Ford probably really *did* forget his mother’s face! I think that Bill genuinely made him forget things to stop Ford from getting help (post betrayal) or someone else’s opinion that could stop him from believing Bill (pre betrayal) like Stan’s face or name or even existence sometimes! The reader being reminded of just how much control Bill really had over Ford is a super cool way to write a book! Also the part where Ford talks about how ⚠️ !body horror warning!⚠️ he feels his bones being pulled out of their sockets and like he was about to go blind? Terrifying in the best way
Yah same to both these pages but the one I found hit the hardest was the one where he was shivering freezing to death on the roof because it shows that bill could easily kill him if he doesn't do what he says
Bill getting really drunk and then trying to call his dead mom hit me kinda hard, because when I was a teen I had to help watch over my very drunk uncle (who had fallen off of the wagon at the time, he had been sober for years before that point). He was curled up on the ground crying out for his mother, who had been dead for twenty years at that point. You know someone is GONE gone in a drunken stupor when they're trying to reach out to someone who's been dead for a long time. Especially in Bill's case where he's the reason she died. Which of course, isn't to give him sympathy beyond "yikes my dude". He MIGHT not have intended to destroy his home dimension, but everything else he did either fully knowing it was bad and not caring, or from a place of COMPLETE denial. I'm also glad that Ford's ending is getting to move on, because in a way a switch was flipped for Ford where he went from an obsessive love, to an almost obsessive hate. An understandable one since he was trying to stop the end of the world, but either way Bill clearly was just happy that Ford was thinking about him, even if it was to kill him.
Honestly, part of me kind of wants to see Bill work through his issues and become better, even if it will in all likelihood never happen. But even if he does, as unlikely as that is, he and Ford should probably stay as far away from each other as possible.
There is a sort of desire to see someone like Bill be better, isn't there? I don't think that's misplaced at all. Even if he will never be redeemed, a part of me wants him to see the error of his ways and grow.
When The Book of Bill came out and I first started hearing spoilers for it without context, I was worried that Bill was going to be retconned into a sad, lonely little baby who just wanted to have friends and did absolutely nothing wrong, kind of like The Collector from The Owl House, while completely ignoring how much Bill loved being a sadistic, manipulative monster who has intentionally ruined lives over the course of centuries and is the direct cause of pretty much every major conflict throughout the series. When I actually got it for my birthday however, I was relieved to find that Bill was actually Ford's bitter toxic ex who desperately wanted his abuse victim back and was ultimately a psychopathic theater kid who had the potential to be redeemed, but he's too selfish and stubborn to admit that he's a bad person.
Oh man I have similar feelings about the collector from the owl house...I was bummed his character got watered down from the menacing figure he was as a shadow figure. And that's great insight about Bill! That's a fun birthday present too, I'm still waiting for my preorder of the second run of the BN version (hence why all the pic examples in the vid are such low quality lmfao...)
i love billford so much. their dynamic in the book of bill is so well written and honestly sad. i love everything about them, from their honeymoon phase, to their fallout, to thei post-divorce era. i love the toxic yaoi aspect, the memes etc, but the way the toxicity of their relationship is depicted is heart wrenching. ford trusted bill, he felt loved, but bill ruined it all and used him. ford loved bill, he felt loved and seen for once, but bill was a monster.
The whole arc gives almost a "fable-like" vibe by how full-circle it is, doesn't it? Like a cautionary tale, in a way. I'm with you! Both the heartwrenching tale itself, and the silly memes, are both fun to dissect and engage with! Thanks for commenting!
@@wheeliescoot YES exactly!!! as much as i adore the memes i equally adore when people properly unpack billford and talk about all the complicated/interesting aspects of it, including the sad implications and all that. i am a sucker for that sort of thing.
Loved your analysis! "Ford is a scientist who wants more than anything in the world to be seen as important, Bill is a monster from another dimension who preys on people with insecurity and makes them feel important to get them to build a portal for him. That's not a healthy relationship! And even though most of us don't know literal demons, [...] I think we all know terrible people, I think we all know manipulative people. [...]So, when I was making The book of Bill, I asked myself "what would the relationship between a demon and his dupe be like?". I thought it would be tumultuous and it might remind me of the worst relationships that friends of mine had described in their lives. [...] Rather than typing ''demon'', maybe type ''break-up" and see what you see online!" -Alex Hirsch, the man himself, at In Motion London 2024 after being asked "what is up with Bill and Ford?". So, yeah. I the reading of it as an unhealthy relationship is very much supported by canon.
The inevitable singular billford question per alex hirsch panel is always such a treat...and seeing the careful way alex answers it is super fun. I always enjoy the insight he adds!
This is SO GOOD!!!!!! Also, I feel like the biggest problem with their relationship is that Bill isn't capable of love....at least not anymore. I think Bill truly does love his parents, but I think they are the ONLY ones he loves. (We can see he at least somewhat loves them, based on the way he kept his dad's hat for ONE TRILLION YEARS, and also how much the thought of his mom being dissapointed of him bothers him) Bill does "Care" about Ford, but only in the heavily emotionally stunted way he can. Like an extra important toy. But Bill does WANT to be loved, and he does WANT to love others, but he CAN'T. That's what makes his character so complex. It's not that he's never loved, or even that he doesn't want to love. It's that he emotionally can't. Destroying his dimension, losing his parents at only TWELVE, I think it made his mind just...shut down. Unable to handle anymore painful feelings, his mind dissociated from the entire world, rendering him incapeable of any kind of true emotion.
I would actually say the opposite is true, Bill does "love" Ford (in some sort of fucked up way) but he doesn't care about Ford (whether that be his physical or emotional being), the way in which Bill "loves" now is obviously not in the same way he would have loved his parents, but love (romantic) in the brain is three things attraction, connection and attachment; Bill arguably had had all three of these things with Ford, but his problem is that he doesn't care about Ford as an entity other than an "important toy" as you put it. Because real love is selfless and real love is something Bill can't comprehend anymore.
the gravity falls fandom coming back to life after years literally gives ME life. im so incredibly happy to see so many people's hyperfixation striking up and that to me is just a further proof of how great alex's writing is. a great analysis!!! there's just so much to say about those two. like. really. i could talk about them for hours. this video serves me perfectly since i didn't get the chance to read tbob yet. but i will become so insufferable when i do FUCK
This is such a great video essay. While I’m more into Fiddauthor both as a relationship and as a tragic Yaoi fanfiction dynamic, Billford is fascinating in its portrayal of a toxic abusive relationship.
I think Fiddleford and Ford have a fascinating dynamic and there's a lot to explore there! I especially love a lot of the tragic aspects, I think they're really well done. Thanks for watching and the comment! :)
This video was so well put together- I hadn’t read the book of bill I’d just seen the “haha toxic grandpa yaoi, billford is cannon teehee” and hadn’t really looked into it further than that. But as fun as that is to see, the way it is written in the text sorta leave a bad taste in my mouth for taking it so unseriously. it’s hella dark and even with the nuance it’s a lot for silly haha Disney show. props to Alex for it being done under Disney’s IP, idk how much convincing he needed to do but I’m glad it payed off
Ok, I'm just at the beginning, but THANK YOU for saying and writing the word "suicide". More and more people on youtube have started censoring it (or worse: saying tiktok euphemisms) and it's driving me CRAZY.
I feel a similar way, especially the whole "unalive" thing. It's gotten so bad that people say the substitute words even when they don't need to (like on tumblr??? hello?) I considered censoring it as it is a sensitive word to some people, but when I tried, it just felt...wrong? I feel like the topic should be treated with the weight it deserves, so I appreciate your comment on that! :)
@@wheeliescoot Exactly! If someone is sensitive to the topic, censoring it often makes it harder to filter out, and if you write su*cide it's like. IT'S STILL CLEAR WHAT THE WORD IS?! And "unalive" is just so... It makes it feel like you're not taking the topic seriously.
Well said!! I've been hoping someone would make a video exploring the abusive aspects of Bill and Ford's relationship, and this is so excellent :D I think that the way their relationship was expanded upon (or even contextualized, in a way) in the book of bill really made it so much more interesting. Gravity Falls is a show that's really great at using supernatural external conflict as a way of representing mundane internal conflict (like, Dipper unlearning toxic masculinity by training with the manotaurs, or Mabel fistfighting unicorns to learn "morality is relative"). It helps make the mundane "morals of the story" more exciting and the fantastical silliness more grounded. Bill and Ford's relationship is so much more evocative with the abuse allegory- suddenly, it becomes so much clearer to understand why Ford was tricked, how it effected him, etc. It changes the way we understand Ford, where at first he just seems like an arrogant self-declared genius who was tricked by a demon, in the book of bill we see how desperately lonely he was, and how so many of his flaws were things that Bill nurtured and fed into, for the purpose of making him easier to control. I don't think it's any coincidence how important Ford being possessed is in the book. He literally has his autonomy taken away-- Bill can use his body however he wants, whenever Ford is unconscious and unable to stop him (
I really enjoyed this!! I was a GF fan back in the day but all the recent book of bill stuff has evaded me thus far, im actually astonished by how explicit it makes billford lol. Your summary and analysis were both great :)
This is a very interesting video! Good analysis and (as someone who is working on my Ford Pines Defense video) I really like your grasp of Ford's character. I ate this vid up tbh
@@hanahyperfixates Waaa oh my god that’s such high praise Hana! I really love your videos, I was actually the person who sent in that ask on tumblr about editing a video, I was a little nervous about if you ever watched it lmfao..!!
yep this video is amazing, the book of bill is so good, and when i read it i hadnt expected such a great and horrifying exploration of a toxic relationship... for context i started seeing spoilers and shit about ford and bill toxic relationship being confirmed on the internet, and i was like oh neat. and then i finally sat down to immerse myself in the book, and at first its silly its bill basically trying to sell u his story, his version of everything secrets and all and then its a true exploration of ford and bill abusive relationship and i legit had to truly take a break between pages sometimes while reading the journal 3 section and be like holy shit, this is genuily horrifying, but also really well written, but also what the fuck... no toxic yaoi memes prepared me for the fact that its been now a month since ive read the book and looked at the website, and im still thinking about it. i love the complexity and depth of these characters, the way its written, its just so good... anyway hope my ramble wasnt too convoluted and filled with too much mistakes haha! this was an amazing video i absolutely loved it!!!
I was a fan as it was airing, and was always thinking there was more to the story with them/what was shown- tbob really surprised me with its depiction of abuse and how deep ford’s loneliness/isolation/egotism/need for validation is portrayed. this commentary literally summed up my exact thoughts on everything. so good omg
Ok, so this is a common misconception in fandom, but it's not actually clear if Bill having one eye was unusual in any way. "That strange eye" doesn't necesssarily mean the number is strange, just that the eye is. Also, in Flatland, which obviously inspired Euclydia, they do all have one eye on their side; I would pose that Bill's eye was strange because it could move "inside" his body and therefore see the 3rd dimension.
Counterpoint to this though is the code that’s on Bill’s “The Early Years” page that reads “One Eyed King”, which vaguely implies that it was something noteworthy compared to the rest of the Euclidians
I don’t usually watch essay videos this is probably the first time in years but god did you do a PHENOMENAL job Makes the feeling of reading the book of bill hit harder with heavy melancholy that despite ford no longer thinking much about bill and moving on. Bill continues to never move on he’s struggling with feelings he hates and pretty much gaslights himself into believing he’s okay he ignores Everything he needs to address because he hates how it makes him feel. It’s so melancholy reading the end of the book especially after watching this vid realizing that everyone moved on and bill will continue to be not only a bad person but also someone who has his own pain he won’t address and he will hide. he’s getting left behind stuck in the same place of his ego and and the trauma he refuses to acknowledge Bill has been shown to be a smart guy and I think he very much knows why he feels the way he does whenever his dimension or ford is brought up But he convinces himself that that it’s a weakness that he can never show and that he’s a unbreakable wall when he’s falling apart behind his “I’m a god i don’t need anyone” Facade. He says he obliterated his dimension when he didn’t feeding onto this trauma he has and adding more weight to it by blaming himself when he clearly shows he struggles with that topic. Imagine how depressing it is looking back to see everyone dead without knowing how it even happened I always think about how traumatic that incident was Anyway kudos to you because seriously this vid was top tier I’m a subscriber now! Edit; I just saw a comment about him calling for his mom STOP NOO ITS SO SAD OMG he clearly had some good relationship with his parents and when the first times not in the right mind he calls for her like a child even tho she’s gone STOP THATS ACTUALLY SO SAD LEAVE ME ALONE
This video essay is literally perfect-- i'm writing my own analysis of Bill and Ford's extremely toxic relationship, and when watching this, it feels like you took the words right out of my mouth when analyzing this-- i'm making quite literally the exact same points in my own work!! This is really well made 👍
I was delighted to listen to this commentary. The Bill/Ford relationship is a great allegory for an abusive relationship, and you’ve made insightful observations about it here.
OMG! I hope this gets the views it deserves because this is a REALLY good analysis of both these characters and their relationship. One thing I really found fascinating is your take on how Ford's sexuality is handled. There's been a lot of debate about it since the beginning of the fandom and I think Alex saw that (based on his responses to fan questions) is purposely making the answer vage, because he wants to leave it up to the fan interpretation. But in universe, it's sure is a good agreement for micro labels and an example of how confusing it can be to figure thing's out when you're SOMEWHERE on the Queer spectrum. I adamantly believe Ford is somewhere on the ace spectrum, and I can attest myself to how much MORE challenging it can be to figure out you're sexuality when you don't experience 'attraction' the same as everyone else. The remember reading that line about the 'What are you attracted to test' and just kinda taking that at face value. (So it this confirmation it's not about the sex of the person, but them. Like, is he pan?) But I REALLY like the interpretation that Ford DOESN'T know, and he's just putting down what he thinks he should. I won't go into details, but I'm on the ace spectrum, and I spent a few years figuring that out. Taking test, comparing photos to see what I like. I remember taking to others about it. Asking if you could be in a romantic relationship without sex. People telling me, 'you just value intelligence over looks', 'maybe you just like girls', & 'it's always awkward at first, you'll get use to it'. I remember trying to figure out what 'my type is', but all the questions are too direct. My answer would always be 'idk', 'they look okay', & 'I guess I like that'. When I fell in love with by best friend, It wasn't because of her looks; it was because I enjoyed our time together and like the way she makes me feel, how I feel about her. The point is, figuring things out is HARD, and its very frustrating when what you're experiencing doesn't line up with 99% of the population. Ford probably just wrote down what he thought he was suppose too. He values intelligence, so of course he would put down "logic and preparation". He might be attracted to the strange, but it's purely scientific, I swear, it's not for any other weird reason. Ford's from a different time, he's got no emotional intelligence, and he doesn't wanna be seen as a "freak", so he's holding back his words because he doesn't want others to give him strange looks. Ford doesn't know about Asexualility or the Queer spectrum, so he doesn't have the words to describe what's he's actually experiencing, which is why we're only get bits and pieces of the greater puzzle. Anyway, sorry for the rant and for going off about myself; I didn't intend for that to be so long. I just really love this video and that was something wanted to share/hyper fixate on. Once again, this is fantastic. 😄❤
Seriously though, I love this analysis WAY TOO MUCH. Probably more than I should... I've watched this in it's entirety 4 times over now. It's REALLY well written. 😅
33:18 My heart sank I swear that hasn’t gotten off my own mind anyways love the lil emotes and lil expressions of ur persona :3 lol it kept on grabbing my attentionwhile I was trying to read notes or text
Thank you for this great analysis!! You broke down the amazingly written relationship between Ford and Bill so perfectly. Your thoughts about bill really reflect my own. He’s a terrible person and he doesn’t deserve redemption. He’s too far gone and too deep in his denial, sadism, hedonism, and selfishness to be anything more than what he is, a monster. But despite it all Bill is a fascinating character. He’s not just a villain, he feels like a real person. Even beyond the original show, you can still imagine scenarios he would be in because he’s so layered and understandable. And the book of bill only takes his initial portrayal and enriches it. He’s tragic, he’s horrific and he’s laughable. I can’t help but to love and hate him all at once.
3:52 yes! SAME!!!! I installed that game the moment it came out and watched Alex and Dana’s video. I had not played in years but Im in such a Gravity falls fixation I need it to replay the games 😂 And I love this series so much I often watch reactions and watch the shows from beginning to en every year or so. I’m so glad more people are getting into still. And the fandom is huge again
OMG. Thank you SO MUCH for this video! I have the same story of meeting and discovery Gravity Falls, same thoughts about Ford and Bill, and of course I have a special place for Ford in my heart too ❤️ I just don't have people to discuss it! So all this video was like a good talk with a friend about mutual hyperfixation. Thank you, I really needed that!
I'm glad my video had such a positive impact on you -- that's exactly the kind of effect i hope with my videos !! thank you for watching and the lovely comment ^^ !!
Wow. I had this thought tingling somewhere at the back of my head since I read the third journal for the first time at the age of twelve, the feeling only intensified after the book of Bill was released, but this video has really set things into places for me. Now I finally understand why do Bill and Ford felt so special yet so uncomfortable to me from the very beginning.
Brilliant video , exactly what I wanted to hear , of course I enjoy the jokes and such but I felt like the fandom's opinion lacked a nuanced take on BillFord , it is such an amazing part of the story that I personally appreciate so much , and I wonder how the show could've been at its end if it was developed more , I am aware though that disney would've not let such content creep into a kids show , which is fair to be honest even if I disagree with their censorship policy . I haven't read the entirety of The Book of Bill ( I live in a puny third world country and such luxury is difficult to access , and I feel weird to ask my relatives who import my medications for a seemingly silly cartoon book) but from the bits and pieces I've seen of it it looks exceedingly fascinating and well-made (pray that I get it one day)
AAAA THIS VIDEO IS SO GOOD AND WELL ARTICULATED ive been rotating these two in my mind ever since i got thrown back into gf and you just said everything so dsjhgkjrgv like theyre so messed up but so interesting both on their own and as a pair..,... alex hirsch just cant stop cooking i really really enjoyed ford's sections in particular, what with all the hate towards him that's been very prominent in the fandom recently? like yes, he is certainly flawed, but i feel like some people don't even take the time to understand why he is the way that he is-- which includes both his backstory and ESPECIALLY bill's influence on his life, behavior, and interactions with other people (ie stan and fidds). Take the "trust no one" phrase for example. ive seen people push the blame onto ford, saying it's his fault that this belief led to weirdmageddon, but they fail to mention exactly who caused this belief in the first place ▲▲▲!! i just appreciated seeing that from a fellow ford enjoyer :) your insight on certain aspects of his character like his views on connection/attraction was also so awesome and perfect!!! i have less to say about bill despite him being my favorite character but i will say my 13 year old self would be screaming crying throwing up knowing he has a canon backstory now. god this guy has so many problems and does not want to fix a single one of them-- while i love exploring a bill redemption in fanwork (very self indulgent thing i'll probably never grow out of lol) i agree with you in that he is irredeemable, and any attempt to change that in canon is not a good idea. but yeah this is a great analysis highlighting exactly why their relationship is so compelling but also awful, TYSM for making it!!
This is the coolest video I’ve seen in my life, OH MY GOD!!!!! My first language isn’t English but ur video was so well done n explained that made me understand everything!! You deserve soooo muuuchhh more attention! I’m sending this to my friends bc I’m a billford obsessed type of girl ,,, and they need to understand my lil toxic old men yaoi lore too🫡 Their parallels, weakness, flaws, the idea of them making each other feel important hits SO HARD ON ME,, like I only wake up and sleep thinking about them 😭😭😭 You have no idea of how much I admire your content!!! 🩷🩷🩷 keep going!!!!
aaaa thank you for the lovely comment!! i'm so glad you were able to get so much out of it!!! and i'm glad it was easy to understand, and thank you for watching !!
lmao I love listening to you ramble, I couldn’t get the book myself and read the lore so hearing you explain it and show images of certain parts of the book was really nice :3
*not my dad who fucking put the damn book of bill in the amazon cart* but bill is the hottest character- nothing but the fab ford meme is what got me to watch it *totally* but ngl I have the 'THIS PARTY NEVER STOPS TIME IS DEAD AND MEANING HAS NO MEANING EXISTENCE IS UPSIDE DOWN AND I REIGN SUPREME! WELCOME ONE AND ALL TO WEIRDMAGGEDON' line stuck in my head Im also going as Bill Cipher for halloween😭😭😭😭😭😭 thats how f**king addicted to bill cipher i think imma need therapy;-; also there this rumor (or not idk bc im not researching for 50 years) season 3 of gravity falls is coming soon but idrk
Gravity Falls preys on the minds of neurodivergent folks, dragging them deep into obsession over a fucking kids show- but fr, why is this shit so so good?!!
Unrelated but I do wanna talk about fidlfired for a minute and say that I don’t really think he’s much of a victim as the book or everyone else is making him out to be well yes The things that happened to him in gravity Falls were awful but he still chose to willingly go along with it he still chose to not see his family for years he still chose to go on this dangerous expedition with Ford so ya but that’s just my opinion tho but what do you think
I was gonna ask my school to add the book of bill-NOW I KNOW WHY ITS FOR OLDER READERS 🫡(also I read som bill lore and it said he tends to get drunk a lot-)
This video was so well put together- I hadn’t read the book of bill I’d just seen the “haha toxic grandpa yaoi, billford is cannon teehee” and hadn’t really looked into it further than that. But as fun as that is to see, the way it is written in the text sorta leave a bad taste in my mouth for taking it so unseriously. it’s hella dark and even with the nuance it’s a lot for silly haha Disney show. props to Alex for it being done under Disney’s IP, idk how much convincing he needed to do but I’m glad it payed off
WOW thank you so much for the support and comments on this vid !! i promise i will try to get to all of them, i appreciate all the added insight and every comment really makes my day...thank you!!
I understand the pain of having gravity falls stuck in your head. Legit the same exact problem and situation 😭. IM NOT EVEN JOKING IVE BEEN WATCH BILLFORD VIDS LEFT AND RIGHT.
IVE EVEN HAD A DREAM ABOUT EM. Im in too deep SOMEONE HELP ME!!!
It's like a cycle lol, I went from Billford, to Fiddauthor, to Fiddlestan
Another point on Bill, he tries EXTRA hard to get Ford to join him, and just holds golden Ford all during weirdmagedon, he really wanted Ford with him. He even asked Ford to join him before he knew about the barrier! Ford isn't some fool Bill was using, he actually genuinely loved him, his love just couldn't outweigh his ego. Which makes the abuse even more haunting and realistic
Congrats on the divorce Stanford
I totally agree!!! I think the grief of killing his own parents caused Bill to develop ASPD (Basically caused him to be a sociopath), which makes it really hard for Bill to truly love anyone but himself. But he got close with ford.
+we all know Bill can’t tell the difference between fear and love
thank you.
Lol what a way divorce 😂
I was thinking about obssesion or proyection instead of love
My favourite part of BillFord is the happy ending, Ford reconnects with Fiddleford and Stanley, he makes new connections, he's happy and over Bill
Sure he feels bittersweet and all, but Bill no longer has any power over him, he knows Bill is full of shit, he doesn't worry about him anymore.
Meanwhile Bill got what was coming for him, he got outsmarted and now he's in therapy where he can't hurt anyone anymore, left to cry about his divorce.
REAL ☹️❤️❤️ SEEING THIS NERD OLD MAN HAPPY WITH FIDDLEFORD AND STAN IS SO GOOD TO ME
The minute I got to Bill taking Ford's body for a joyride I realized why this was an adult book. Not the haha funny fuck words, but for the active handling of a toxic, abusive relationship in it's entirety. That scene was CHILLING and I ATE IT UP. I'm still waiting for the inevitable Hana Hyperfixates video on it, but I'm happy to watch yours absolutely as well in the mean time!
The page where Bill talks to Ford in his mind about how Ford was powerless and how Bill could literally make him forget everything made me shiver. I loved the scene so much that I kept rereading it because of how well written it is. Like?? Ford probably really *did* forget his mother’s face! I think that Bill genuinely made him forget things to stop Ford from getting help (post betrayal) or someone else’s opinion that could stop him from believing Bill (pre betrayal) like Stan’s face or name or even existence sometimes! The reader being reminded of just how much control Bill really had over Ford is a super cool way to write a book! Also the part where Ford talks about how ⚠️ !body horror warning!⚠️ he feels his bones being pulled out of their sockets and like he was about to go blind? Terrifying in the best way
Yah same to both these pages but the one I found hit the hardest was the one where he was shivering freezing to death on the roof because it shows that bill could easily kill him if he doesn't do what he says
@@AIaric.X0xODUDE THAT PAGE WAS MY FAVORITE, IT WAS EXECUTED SO WELL
@@Retsiger FRRR
guys what page is that guys
Bill getting really drunk and then trying to call his dead mom hit me kinda hard, because when I was a teen I had to help watch over my very drunk uncle (who had fallen off of the wagon at the time, he had been sober for years before that point). He was curled up on the ground crying out for his mother, who had been dead for twenty years at that point. You know someone is GONE gone in a drunken stupor when they're trying to reach out to someone who's been dead for a long time. Especially in Bill's case where he's the reason she died. Which of course, isn't to give him sympathy beyond "yikes my dude". He MIGHT not have intended to destroy his home dimension, but everything else he did either fully knowing it was bad and not caring, or from a place of COMPLETE denial. I'm also glad that Ford's ending is getting to move on, because in a way a switch was flipped for Ford where he went from an obsessive love, to an almost obsessive hate. An understandable one since he was trying to stop the end of the world, but either way Bill clearly was just happy that Ford was thinking about him, even if it was to kill him.
wow, that is really powerful in the context of your uncle, I am sorry you had to go through that! Great insight though, thank you for commenting!
@@wheeliescoot Thank you for the comment back! And thank you for the in-depth video essay, it was a great watch!
AAAA THAT MAKES ME THINK ABOUT IT MORE NOOO
Honestly, part of me kind of wants to see Bill work through his issues and become better, even if it will in all likelihood never happen. But even if he does, as unlikely as that is, he and Ford should probably stay as far away from each other as possible.
There is a sort of desire to see someone like Bill be better, isn't there? I don't think that's misplaced at all. Even if he will never be redeemed, a part of me wants him to see the error of his ways and grow.
have you , perhaps, perused the Handyman Bill AU side of the fandom?
When The Book of Bill came out and I first started hearing spoilers for it without context, I was worried that Bill was going to be retconned into a sad, lonely little baby who just wanted to have friends and did absolutely nothing wrong, kind of like The Collector from The Owl House, while completely ignoring how much Bill loved being a sadistic, manipulative monster who has intentionally ruined lives over the course of centuries and is the direct cause of pretty much every major conflict throughout the series. When I actually got it for my birthday however, I was relieved to find that Bill was actually Ford's bitter toxic ex who desperately wanted his abuse victim back and was ultimately a psychopathic theater kid who had the potential to be redeemed, but he's too selfish and stubborn to admit that he's a bad person.
Oh man I have similar feelings about the collector from the owl house...I was bummed his character got watered down from the menacing figure he was as a shadow figure. And that's great insight about Bill! That's a fun birthday present too, I'm still waiting for my preorder of the second run of the BN version (hence why all the pic examples in the vid are such low quality lmfao...)
i love billford so much. their dynamic in the book of bill is so well written and honestly sad. i love everything about them, from their honeymoon phase, to their fallout, to thei post-divorce era. i love the toxic yaoi aspect, the memes etc, but the way the toxicity of their relationship is depicted is heart wrenching. ford trusted bill, he felt loved, but bill ruined it all and used him. ford loved bill, he felt loved and seen for once, but bill was a monster.
Omg YES. YES. THIS!!!!
The whole arc gives almost a "fable-like" vibe by how full-circle it is, doesn't it? Like a cautionary tale, in a way. I'm with you! Both the heartwrenching tale itself, and the silly memes, are both fun to dissect and engage with! Thanks for commenting!
@@wheeliescoot YES exactly!!! as much as i adore the memes i equally adore when people properly unpack billford and talk about all the complicated/interesting aspects of it, including the sad implications and all that. i am a sucker for that sort of thing.
Loved your analysis! "Ford is a scientist who wants more than anything in the world to be seen as important, Bill is a monster from another dimension who preys on people with insecurity and makes them feel important to get them to build a portal for him. That's not a healthy relationship! And even though most of us don't know literal demons, [...] I think we all know terrible people, I think we all know manipulative people. [...]So, when I was making The book of Bill, I asked myself "what would the relationship between a demon and his dupe be like?". I thought it would be tumultuous and it might remind me of the worst relationships that friends of mine had described in their lives. [...] Rather than typing ''demon'', maybe type ''break-up" and see what you see online!" -Alex Hirsch, the man himself, at In Motion London 2024 after being asked "what is up with Bill and Ford?". So, yeah. I the reading of it as an unhealthy relationship is very much supported by canon.
The inevitable singular billford question per alex hirsch panel is always such a treat...and seeing the careful way alex answers it is super fun. I always enjoy the insight he adds!
and thank you, i'm glad you enjoyed the video! :D
IM CRYING THE END 😭 "I did It i saved the town!" STOPPP
LOL
This is SO GOOD!!!!!!
Also, I feel like the biggest problem with their relationship is that Bill isn't capable of love....at least not anymore.
I think Bill truly does love his parents, but I think they are the ONLY ones he loves. (We can see he at least somewhat loves them, based on the way he kept his dad's hat for ONE TRILLION YEARS, and also how much the thought of his mom being dissapointed of him bothers him)
Bill does "Care" about Ford, but only in the heavily emotionally stunted way he can. Like an extra important toy.
But Bill does WANT to be loved, and he does WANT to love others, but he CAN'T. That's what makes his character so complex.
It's not that he's never loved, or even that he doesn't want to love. It's that he emotionally can't.
Destroying his dimension, losing his parents at only TWELVE, I think it made his mind just...shut down. Unable to handle anymore painful feelings, his mind dissociated from the entire world, rendering him incapeable of any kind of true emotion.
I would actually say the opposite is true, Bill does "love" Ford (in some sort of fucked up way) but he doesn't care about Ford (whether that be his physical or emotional being), the way in which Bill "loves" now is obviously not in the same way he would have loved his parents, but love (romantic) in the brain is three things attraction, connection and attachment; Bill arguably had had all three of these things with Ford, but his problem is that he doesn't care about Ford as an entity other than an "important toy" as you put it. Because real love is selfless and real love is something Bill can't comprehend anymore.
Thank you! Finally someone understands!
@@axescilias I totally agree!
@@NerdOwlLover487 Of course!! I'm glad you agree! I've been thinking on this relationship and the psychology of it WAY too much lol.
Great insight! I love seeing the discussion grow in the comments, it makes me very happy! and thank you for watching!
I love toxic doomed old man yaoi thank you for making this
the gravity falls fandom coming back to life after years literally gives ME life. im so incredibly happy to see so many people's hyperfixation striking up and that to me is just a further proof of how great alex's writing is.
a great analysis!!! there's just so much to say about those two. like. really. i could talk about them for hours. this video serves me perfectly since i didn't get the chance to read tbob yet. but i will become so insufferable when i do FUCK
This is such a great video essay. While I’m more into Fiddauthor both as a relationship and as a tragic Yaoi fanfiction dynamic, Billford is fascinating in its portrayal of a toxic abusive relationship.
I think Fiddleford and Ford have a fascinating dynamic and there's a lot to explore there! I especially love a lot of the tragic aspects, I think they're really well done. Thanks for watching and the comment! :)
This video was so well put together- I hadn’t read the book of bill I’d just seen the “haha toxic grandpa yaoi, billford is cannon teehee” and hadn’t really looked into it further than that. But as fun as that is to see, the way it is written in the text sorta leave a bad taste in my mouth for taking it so unseriously. it’s hella dark and even with the nuance it’s a lot for silly haha Disney show. props to Alex for it being done under Disney’s IP, idk how much convincing he needed to do but I’m glad it payed off
REALEST COMMENT EVERRRRR
33:18 I was drawing when as I watched the video and as soon as you said that I looked deadpan at the tv 😭🙏
I WORDED THAT HORRIBLY
@@justigod LMFAOOOO that’s awesome. Working as intended
I’m 100% grateful you acknowledge their relationship is 1 thousand percent toxic😅
it's an important aspect !!
9:19 it’s giving the ace monster fucker trope, which I will happily take we don’t get a lot of rep
10:10 FUCK YEAHHHH
Ok, I'm just at the beginning, but THANK YOU for saying and writing the word "suicide". More and more people on youtube have started censoring it (or worse: saying tiktok euphemisms) and it's driving me CRAZY.
I feel a similar way, especially the whole "unalive" thing. It's gotten so bad that people say the substitute words even when they don't need to (like on tumblr??? hello?) I considered censoring it as it is a sensitive word to some people, but when I tried, it just felt...wrong? I feel like the topic should be treated with the weight it deserves, so I appreciate your comment on that! :)
@@wheeliescoot Exactly! If someone is sensitive to the topic, censoring it often makes it harder to filter out, and if you write su*cide it's like. IT'S STILL CLEAR WHAT THE WORD IS?! And "unalive" is just so... It makes it feel like you're not taking the topic seriously.
Well said!! I've been hoping someone would make a video exploring the abusive aspects of Bill and Ford's relationship, and this is so excellent :D
I think that the way their relationship was expanded upon (or even contextualized, in a way) in the book of bill really made it so much more interesting. Gravity Falls is a show that's really great at using supernatural external conflict as a way of representing mundane internal conflict (like, Dipper unlearning toxic masculinity by training with the manotaurs, or Mabel fistfighting unicorns to learn "morality is relative"). It helps make the mundane "morals of the story" more exciting and the fantastical silliness more grounded.
Bill and Ford's relationship is so much more evocative with the abuse allegory- suddenly, it becomes so much clearer to understand why Ford was tricked, how it effected him, etc. It changes the way we understand Ford, where at first he just seems like an arrogant self-declared genius who was tricked by a demon, in the book of bill we see how desperately lonely he was, and how so many of his flaws were things that Bill nurtured and fed into, for the purpose of making him easier to control. I don't think it's any coincidence how important Ford being possessed is in the book. He literally has his autonomy taken away-- Bill can use his body however he wants, whenever Ford is unconscious and unable to stop him (
I really enjoyed this!! I was a GF fan back in the day but all the recent book of bill stuff has evaded me thus far, im actually astonished by how explicit it makes billford lol. Your summary and analysis were both great :)
@@cammyboig cammy ur too sweet!!! Ty for the kind words !!!!
This is a very interesting video! Good analysis and (as someone who is working on my Ford Pines Defense video) I really like your grasp of Ford's character. I ate this vid up tbh
@@hanahyperfixates Waaa oh my god that’s such high praise Hana! I really love your videos, I was actually the person who sent in that ask on tumblr about editing a video, I was a little nervous about if you ever watched it lmfao..!!
@@wheeliescoot haha after i saw this in my recommended I was like "oh it's the video fuck yeah!!!" Thank you very much!
BRO YES PLEASE. I TRIED TO FIND A “in defense of Stanford Pines” VIDEO, BUT COULDNT FIND ONE!! PLEAASEE MAKE IT I WILL EAT THAT UP
yep this video is amazing, the book of bill is so good, and when i read it i hadnt expected such a great and horrifying exploration of a toxic relationship... for context i started seeing spoilers and shit about ford and bill toxic relationship being confirmed on the internet, and i was like oh neat. and then i finally sat down to immerse myself in the book, and at first its silly its bill basically trying to sell u his story, his version of everything secrets and all and then its a true exploration of ford and bill abusive relationship and i legit had to truly take a break between pages sometimes while reading the journal 3 section and be like holy shit, this is genuily horrifying, but also really well written, but also what the fuck... no toxic yaoi memes prepared me for the fact that its been now a month since ive read the book and looked at the website, and im still thinking about it. i love the complexity and depth of these characters, the way its written, its just so good... anyway hope my ramble wasnt too convoluted and filled with too much mistakes haha! this was an amazing video i absolutely loved it!!!
Incredible insight! I agree! and thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed the video!
I was a fan as it was airing, and was always thinking there was more to the story with them/what was shown- tbob really surprised me with its depiction of abuse and how deep ford’s loneliness/isolation/egotism/need for validation is portrayed. this commentary literally summed up my exact thoughts on everything. so good omg
I'm glad you were able to see your own thoughts reflected through my video! Thank you for commenting !! :)
Ok, so this is a common misconception in fandom, but it's not actually clear if Bill having one eye was unusual in any way. "That strange eye" doesn't necesssarily mean the number is strange, just that the eye is. Also, in Flatland, which obviously inspired Euclydia, they do all have one eye on their side; I would pose that Bill's eye was strange because it could move "inside" his body and therefore see the 3rd dimension.
Counterpoint to this though is the code that’s on Bill’s “The Early Years” page that reads “One Eyed King”, which vaguely implies that it was something noteworthy compared to the rest of the Euclidians
33:19 that’s resurfacing trauma😭
I don’t usually watch essay videos this is probably the first time in years but god did you do a PHENOMENAL job
Makes the feeling of reading the book of bill hit harder with heavy melancholy that despite ford no longer thinking much about bill and moving on. Bill continues to never move on he’s struggling with feelings he hates and pretty much gaslights himself into believing he’s okay he ignores Everything he needs to address because he hates how it makes him feel.
It’s so melancholy reading the end of the book especially after watching this vid realizing that everyone moved on and bill will continue to be not only a bad person but also someone who has his own pain he won’t address and he will hide. he’s getting left behind stuck in the same place of his ego and and the trauma he refuses to acknowledge
Bill has been shown to be a smart guy and I think he very much knows why he feels the way he does whenever his dimension or ford is brought up
But he convinces himself that that it’s a weakness that he can never show and that he’s a unbreakable wall when he’s falling apart behind his “I’m a god i don’t need anyone”
Facade.
He says he obliterated his dimension when he didn’t feeding onto this trauma he has and adding more weight to it by blaming himself when he clearly shows he struggles with that topic.
Imagine how depressing it is looking back to see everyone dead without knowing how it even happened I always think about how traumatic that incident was
Anyway kudos to you because seriously this vid was top tier I’m a subscriber now!
Edit; I just saw a comment about him calling for his mom STOP NOO ITS SO SAD OMG
he clearly had some good relationship with his parents and when the first times not in the right mind he calls for her like a child even tho she’s gone STOP THATS ACTUALLY SO SAD LEAVE ME ALONE
This video essay is literally perfect-- i'm writing my own analysis of Bill and Ford's extremely toxic relationship, and when watching this, it feels like you took the words right out of my mouth when analyzing this-- i'm making quite literally the exact same points in my own work!! This is really well made 👍
Please link it when you're done, I would love to read/watch !! Thank you for the lovely comment!
I definitely will, i'm glad you're interested in it in the first place!!
THE THUMBNAIL THO?!
I CANNOT TELL IF U MEAN THIS IN A GOOD WAY KFSHFJKS
@@wheeliescoot I MEAN IT IN THE BEST WAY THE THUMBNAIL IS PURE PERFECTION
It’s so good
@@tocasmiley360 HAHAH THANK YOU
@@MewGamer-bj9in thank you so much !!
PUBLISHED TODAY?? OK ILL COME BACK & WATCH THIS AFTER I GET THE BOOKS TO SEE HOW IT ALL LINES UP BETTER YAYAY
I was delighted to listen to this commentary. The Bill/Ford relationship is a great allegory for an abusive relationship, and you’ve made insightful observations about it here.
thank you so much!
OMG! I hope this gets the views it deserves because this is a REALLY good analysis of both these characters and their relationship.
One thing I really found fascinating is your take on how Ford's sexuality is handled. There's been a lot of debate about it since the beginning of the fandom and I think Alex saw that (based on his responses to fan questions) is purposely making the answer vage, because he wants to leave it up to the fan interpretation. But in universe, it's sure is a good agreement for micro labels and an example of how confusing it can be to figure thing's out when you're SOMEWHERE on the Queer spectrum.
I adamantly believe Ford is somewhere on the ace spectrum, and I can attest myself to how much MORE challenging it can be to figure out you're sexuality when you don't experience 'attraction' the same as everyone else.
The remember reading that line about the 'What are you attracted to test' and just kinda taking that at face value. (So it this confirmation it's not about the sex of the person, but them. Like, is he pan?) But I REALLY like the interpretation that Ford DOESN'T know, and he's just putting down what he thinks he should.
I won't go into details, but I'm on the ace spectrum, and I spent a few years figuring that out. Taking test, comparing photos to see what I like. I remember taking to others about it. Asking if you could be in a romantic relationship without sex. People telling me, 'you just value intelligence over looks', 'maybe you just like girls', & 'it's always awkward at first, you'll get use to it'. I remember trying to figure out what 'my type is', but all the questions are too direct. My answer would always be 'idk', 'they look okay', & 'I guess I like that'. When I fell in love with by best friend, It wasn't because of her looks; it was because I enjoyed our time together and like the way she makes me feel, how I feel about her.
The point is, figuring things out is HARD, and its very frustrating when what you're experiencing doesn't line up with 99% of the population. Ford probably just wrote down what he thought he was suppose too. He values intelligence, so of course he would put down "logic and preparation". He might be attracted to the strange, but it's purely scientific, I swear, it's not for any other weird reason.
Ford's from a different time, he's got no emotional intelligence, and he doesn't wanna be seen as a "freak", so he's holding back his words because he doesn't want others to give him strange looks. Ford doesn't know about Asexualility or the Queer spectrum, so he doesn't have the words to describe what's he's actually experiencing, which is why we're only get bits and pieces of the greater puzzle.
Anyway, sorry for the rant and for going off about myself; I didn't intend for that to be so long. I just really love this video and that was something wanted to share/hyper fixate on. Once again, this is fantastic. 😄❤
Seriously though, I love this analysis WAY TOO MUCH. Probably more than I should...
I've watched this in it's entirety 4 times over now. It's REALLY well written. 😅
33:18 My heart sank I swear that hasn’t gotten off my own mind anyways love the lil emotes and lil expressions of ur persona :3 lol it kept on grabbing my attentionwhile I was trying to read notes or text
I'm glad they were fun to watch! It was quite a bit of editing so I'm glad it was engaging!
This video is so well made! I really loved it. You have a really nice voice.
And you truly did it! You saved the town!!
LOL this comment made me giggle!! and thank you so much for watching and the lovely comment!
Thank you for this great analysis!! You broke down the amazingly written relationship between Ford and Bill so perfectly.
Your thoughts about bill really reflect my own. He’s a terrible person and he doesn’t deserve redemption. He’s too far gone and too deep in his denial, sadism, hedonism, and selfishness to be anything more than what he is, a monster. But despite it all Bill is a fascinating character. He’s not just a villain, he feels like a real person. Even beyond the original show, you can still imagine scenarios he would be in because he’s so layered and understandable. And the book of bill only takes his initial portrayal and enriches it. He’s tragic, he’s horrific and he’s laughable. I can’t help but to love and hate him all at once.
this is a beautifully written comment! great insight!
ok i literally love this so muchhhh tysm for making this!!! its so goodddd
3:52 yes! SAME!!!! I installed that game the moment it came out and watched Alex and Dana’s video. I had not played in years but Im in such a Gravity falls fixation I need it to replay the games 😂
And I love this series so much I often watch reactions and watch the shows from beginning to en every year or so. I’m so glad more people are getting into still. And the fandom is huge again
OMG. Thank you SO MUCH for this video! I have the same story of meeting and discovery Gravity Falls, same thoughts about Ford and Bill, and of course I have a special place for Ford in my heart too ❤️ I just don't have people to discuss it! So all this video was like a good talk with a friend about mutual hyperfixation. Thank you, I really needed that!
I'm glad my video had such a positive impact on you -- that's exactly the kind of effect i hope with my videos !! thank you for watching and the lovely comment ^^ !!
Bill and Ford's relationship is basically Angel and Valentino from "Hazbin Hotel" done WELL.
You had me at the thumbnail.
I'm getting the book of Bill today!!! I will come back to watch this once I have explored it's mysteries
Wow.
I had this thought tingling somewhere at the back of my head since I read the third journal for the first time at the age of twelve, the feeling only intensified after the book of Bill was released, but this video has really set things into places for me. Now I finally understand why do Bill and Ford felt so special yet so uncomfortable to me from the very beginning.
Brilliant video , exactly what I wanted to hear , of course I enjoy the jokes and such but I felt like the fandom's opinion lacked a nuanced take on BillFord , it is such an amazing part of the story that I personally appreciate so much , and I wonder how the show could've been at its end if it was developed more , I am aware though that disney would've not let such content creep into a kids show , which is fair to be honest even if I disagree with their censorship policy .
I haven't read the entirety of The Book of Bill ( I live in a puny third world country and such luxury is difficult to access , and I feel weird to ask my relatives who import my medications for a seemingly silly cartoon book) but from the bits and pieces I've seen of it it looks exceedingly fascinating and well-made (pray that I get it one day)
AAAA THIS VIDEO IS SO GOOD AND WELL ARTICULATED ive been rotating these two in my mind ever since i got thrown back into gf and you just said everything so dsjhgkjrgv like theyre so messed up but so interesting both on their own and as a pair..,... alex hirsch just cant stop cooking
i really really enjoyed ford's sections in particular, what with all the hate towards him that's been very prominent in the fandom recently? like yes, he is certainly flawed, but i feel like some people don't even take the time to understand why he is the way that he is-- which includes both his backstory and ESPECIALLY bill's influence on his life, behavior, and interactions with other people (ie stan and fidds). Take the "trust no one" phrase for example. ive seen people push the blame onto ford, saying it's his fault that this belief led to weirdmageddon, but they fail to mention exactly who caused this belief in the first place ▲▲▲!! i just appreciated seeing that from a fellow ford enjoyer :) your insight on certain aspects of his character like his views on connection/attraction was also so awesome and perfect!!! i have less to say about bill despite him being my favorite character but i will say my 13 year old self would be screaming crying throwing up knowing he has a canon backstory now. god this guy has so many problems and does not want to fix a single one of them-- while i love exploring a bill redemption in fanwork (very self indulgent thing i'll probably never grow out of lol) i agree with you in that he is irredeemable, and any attempt to change that in canon is not a good idea.
but yeah this is a great analysis highlighting exactly why their relationship is so compelling but also awful, TYSM for making it!!
4:00 You probably know about this already but there’s another Ford dating sim that’s being worked on! You can play day 0 for free
where-
OOO i've seen a few pics but I didn't know day 0 was already out !! do you happen to have a link for it?
This is the coolest video I’ve seen in my life, OH MY GOD!!!!! My first language isn’t English but ur video was so well done n explained that made me understand everything!! You deserve soooo muuuchhh more attention! I’m sending this to my friends bc I’m a billford obsessed type of girl ,,, and they need to understand my lil toxic old men yaoi lore too🫡 Their parallels, weakness, flaws, the idea of them making each other feel important hits SO HARD ON ME,, like I only wake up and sleep thinking about them 😭😭😭 You have no idea of how much I admire your content!!! 🩷🩷🩷 keep going!!!!
aaaa thank you for the lovely comment!! i'm so glad you were able to get so much out of it!!! and i'm glad it was easy to understand, and thank you for watching !!
33:19 I am going to cry/j
billford video essay...I love youtube so much thank u for making this
lmao I love listening to you ramble, I couldn’t get the book myself and read the lore so hearing you explain it and show images of certain parts of the book was really nice :3
thank you! I'm glad the visuals were helpful, it was a lot of work collecting the pics and editing them together so i'm glad it was worth it! :)
You put the “destruction of two dimensional spaces” trigger warning just for Bill.
Hell yeah an analysis of this aspect of the relationship, and a good one at that!
thank you!
DUDE WHY AREN’T YOU MORE POPULAR??
you're too kind hehe !!
16:47 fun fact they also mention a drug in the book near the henchmen party at least in the (yellow version ( the barnanobel exclusive)
19:21 Gaster!??!? 😭
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I KEPT SAYING INTERESING I WAS TRANSFORMING INTO HIM
I’m at school, when I get home this video is gonna be FIRE to have on in the background while drawing 🔥🔥🙏
i love listening to youtube when i draw too! hope it was a fun time!
@ it indeed was! And also, sweet!
divorce! it's better than ending up on a true crime podcast!
LOL exactly !
My cartoon crush is Bill cipher
Fantastic analysis!
thank you so much!
excellent video!
great video !! :)
Thank you !! :D
BilliamXOld Man discourse lets goooo
i love billford fiddlestan nobody can change me
1:34 I have this photo framed in my bedroom
Adorei a análise sou do brasil amei estive muito obeceado por esse romance valeu por alimenta
I’m glad I found this video ❤️
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I'm glad you enjoyed !!
Nice video❤
Thank you!
@ :D
*not my dad who fucking put the damn book of bill in the amazon cart*
but bill is the hottest character- nothing
but the fab ford meme is what got me to watch it *totally*
but ngl I have the
'THIS PARTY NEVER STOPS TIME IS DEAD AND MEANING HAS NO MEANING EXISTENCE IS UPSIDE DOWN AND I REIGN SUPREME! WELCOME ONE AND ALL TO WEIRDMAGGEDON' line stuck in my head
Im also going as Bill Cipher for halloween😭😭😭😭😭😭 thats how f**king addicted to bill cipher i think imma need therapy;-;
also there this rumor (or not idk bc im not researching for 50 years) season 3 of gravity falls is coming soon but idrk
Gravity Falls preys on the minds of neurodivergent folks, dragging them deep into obsession over a fucking kids show- but fr, why is this shit so so good?!!
@@SomeRandomEcho FR FR;-; Bill cipher hot af-
@@Miloplaysstrideway I- I think we may have different reasons for liking the show. But I support you nonetheless
Unrelated but I do wanna talk about fidlfired for a minute and say that I don’t really think he’s much of a victim as the book or everyone else is making him out to be well yes The things that happened to him in gravity Falls were awful but he still chose to willingly go along with it he still chose to not see his family for years he still chose to go on this dangerous expedition with Ford so ya but that’s just my opinion tho but what do you think
0:07 they are rat(so am I)I say we put them with the broken portal..and there died love
....toxic yaoi
YOUUU WHEN I GET MY HANDS ON YOU /pos
Beautiful analysis im eating this up so bad
LMFAO thank you !! eat well !!
Yada had he **** the triangle
He did w h a t ?
Is wheelliscoot Moralities alternate account?
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Great video but in the future PLEASE do not put jokes in the content warnings
@@d0ntwearit0ut yes I was a bit wish washy on if that was a good idea, I appreciate the feedback!! I won’t do it again in the future!
@@wheeliescoot that makes me glad to hear! thank you for listening :D
I was gonna ask my school to add the book of bill-NOW I KNOW WHY ITS FOR OLDER READERS 🫡(also I read som bill lore and it said he tends to get drunk a lot-)
This video was so well put together- I hadn’t read the book of bill I’d just seen the “haha toxic grandpa yaoi, billford is cannon teehee” and hadn’t really looked into it further than that. But as fun as that is to see, the way it is written in the text sorta leave a bad taste in my mouth for taking it so unseriously. it’s hella dark and even with the nuance it’s a lot for silly haha Disney show. props to Alex for it being done under Disney’s IP, idk how much convincing he needed to do but I’m glad it payed off