If we handed that guy a gun and let a lion out of a cage to go attack him then I GUARANTEE that he would pull the trigger to defend himself as anyone else would, he has a survival instinct just like anyone else. The fact he thinks that he wouldn't defend himself and let himself be killed is hilarious...
i wonder of all the people in this show are actually fake or something( it just feels to stereotypical ) cause i feel like insults would go around more eazely in these conversations (at least i would start cracking jokes at the 2 annoying vegans,maybe they just edit it out )
its so stupid though he literally even said "If my attempt were successful, I would feel awful" but literally nobody cares, the question was would you kill an animal and that means you will even if you feel awful. These vegans were straight up deflecting the questions the whole way through
They answered this question terribly, as a vegan, Ofcourse in self defence killing is justified, if a human was to try and murder me I’d fight back also. But I would needlessly kill another being when there’s a choice not to.
@@Kitusser No it wasn't a strawman, she mentioned that her mom was eating buckets of ice cream while arguing why not being vegan is bad for your body, However, everyone knows that ice cream has barely any nutrition and is packed with sugar.
"Why does it have to be a drastic situation of would I kill an animal" what answer did she want from the people willing to kill an animal???? "Oh yeah I'd stomp a fucking puppy if I saw it on the street" like they gave legitimate answers as to why they would be willing to kill an animal, she was just hellbent on disagreeing with any given answer. What a clown.
These kind of people are so easily triggered and can't even think straight.....what if i find a dying deer next to a road on my way home, happens all the time because people ram them and just keep driving. I would relieve it of it's pain because that's the only good thing you good do for the animal.
@@64thKomapatient I'd imagine the mental gymnastics would go along the lines of "What gives you the authority to decide wether the animal should live or not? If a human was terminally ill, would you just go and kill them against their will too?" It's like they refuse to accept that more complex thought processes merit a more thorough consideration of one's will and intent.
@@dogma4593 Do you really choose to be an idiot here? Killing a human being is illegal in general, with or without their consent. If a human being is deemed dead and only suffers for days, weeks or years like my grandpa did, it would be great to respect their wish to die. A dying animal that can't be saved doesn't understand what is happening to them, it only feels pain and suffering. How is it a bad thing to help them in that situation? You didn't ask to walk the forests they live in or use the roads we built on their land. How dare you judge people while you are part of the problem.
“Most of these companies that are selling us shitty food, don’t give a fuck about you” Well neither will that mountain lion trying to kill you for “being on their land”
@@tony_5156 Shocker, farmers don't want parasites to destroy their entire crop harvest. Also, all pesticides go through FDA and agricultural regulation approval for use, which ensures certain health standards for the pesticides. The "cancer" in pesticides is in dispute and many organizations including American cancer research group claim there is no link between pesticides and cancer.
Calling something a social construct doesn't mean it doesn't exist. But it's still equally dumb for him have said "the food chain is a social construct, so I can't engage with the question" Race is another social construct. A social construct simply means something that we as a society have constructed and holds little to no basis in objective reality.
@@FortisV ok I may have inaccurately re-worded it. But the food chain sure as hell isn't a social construct. It literally groups organisms by their food habits and helps study the transfer of energy. It's a dumb statement to make whichever way you look at it.
lets not talk about all the animals that die to produce crops. Or all the animals who die / have their habitats destroyed to create homes for humans. But ya we'll conveniently ignore that...
"If that animal is threatening the life of a person" Basically, he would be an accomplice to a killer just because he's friends with them. Smartest vegan for sure man. I'm losing hope.
yeh i'm honestly disappointed in how stupid the people that they invited are. If you want to see a vegan with more than 2 brain cells look up cosmic skeptic's "a meat eater's case for veganism" video. He's a vegan now but back when he made that video he ate meat and was just discussing philosophically why one should go vegan and he kept his word.
@@Chepperz Isn't it still kind of worthless since the food is already at the store anyway/will expire? Someone being vegan won't really alter the food supply/help animals in any way. Also, plants have feelings too, so eating a salad is just as bad.
@@mystic95 i don't think you understand how supply and demand works. If everyone went vegan and all the meat just expired after no one picking it up do you think the animal industry would just keep pumping out meat no matter how many losses they incur?
@@mystic95 Just because the vegans in this video were really not the smartest bunch doesn't mean you had to be the counterweight for the meat eaters side.
I mean, thats part of the show is it not? To create discussion? I don't think it would be nearly entertaining to see people understand and empathize and agree together. They find the people that are on the more extreme side of things to spark that argument. I may have worded that poorly but hopefully you get it.
You could argue that veganism and capitalism correlate considering that veganism is a recent thing in a human history consisting primarily of hunter gathering.
The irony is vegans can only exist under the abundance that capitalism brings. Poor nations don't have the luxury of limiting the type of calories they eat. I guess socialism has created hundreds of millions of vegans by failing to provide any food to them at all as they starve to death.
The dude saying that if he has a relationship with an animal he raised and that said animal kills a human being he would instead choose to kill the human is straight up crazy. He is throwing away responsibility for raising that animal. If the animal kills someone its on him and there is no one else to blame than himself. The girl asking why does it have to be the most drastic scenarios, because we are talking about killing an animal and most people would try to spare the animal even if they are "meat eaters" so that's why. When it comes to killing animals for food i believe everyone who eats meat should be able to do it or at least understand what they are eating but i bet there are a lot of people who eat meat but would never be able to kill an animal..
You're assuming that the animal is the aggressor in this hypothetical scenario, personally if I had an animal that I had raised and it was attacked by human I would choose to save the animal over the human if there was no chance of de-escalation. If it was even a mutual combat situation I would hope the animal came out safe. But if I had no attachment to it either the animal or the human I would likely save the human unless the animal was endangered or a long lived intelligent animal such as an elephant etc.
@@Mr.Sr.Jr. The fact you would let a stranger die over a wild animal you don’t know shows how low your morals are, Ofcourse if someone is ATTACKING your animal you wouldn’t defend the person.. But If YOUR animal attacks a random person, you are responsible for any harm it does Just like the 2 Parents going to jail for buying the most recent school shooter his gun then he kills people. Human or Animal You do what is RIGHT in the situation no matter what attachment you have.
@@iusen64pad @Rooberang Everything is circumstantial. If a stranger is attacking a wild animal it would not be immoral to allow the scenario to play out, if a wild animal attacked a stranger I would absolutely intervene. Just because a person has a difference of opinion does not mean their morals are lower than yours, get off your high horse. I agree if my animal attacks a person I am responsible, I never said otherwise. Get a handle on your emotions and read a comment thoroughly before making accusations. 🖖🏽
The question was "would you kill an animal." As in like ever, under any circumstance. The vegans said they would *never* kill an animal under any circumstance. If you can watch a mountain lion or a bear maul a baby to death in front of you and make no attempt to intervene that might hurt the animal, you're actually a soulless subhuman. Same goes if you would feel worse killing that animal than you would watching a baby be mauled and eaten. Of course you'd feel bad killing an animal, but you should feel worse watching a baby be eaten alive, a lot worse.
Exactly dude, I was thinking the same. Actual fucking hypocrites. Plus the fact he asks why he should kill an animal over human is stupid as fuck. He may have a longer relationship with an animal than the human in his drastic, hypocritical hypothetical that no one seems to have a problem with, but it’s also not human and doesn’t have the same level of emotional intelligence/regular intelligence or consciousness, so it’s just fucked to say you’d let a human die.
But I don't get why he even brings it up... at the end of the day will you kill an animal to save a human? I sure hope the answer is yes... and if another human is going to kill another person then yes I'm gonna try to save that person if it means killing him ... he's the bad guy he was tryna kill someone Fish= human 😂😂😂
8:54 This is so stupid, she's implying that being vegan is the only healthy way of eating when it's not and in some cases can be detrimental for some people.
I have never heard of a case in which being vegan is detrimental to someone's health but you are right in saying it's not the only healthy way of eating since as long as you're staying away from red meat, processed meat, processed foods in general as well as just having a well planned out diet that meets nutritional needs properly, you'll do just fine. Although I will say that the research in what the optimal diet is, points towards a diet that's mostly plant based anyways.
@@Chepperz Red meat is extremely healthy, and not comparable to processed meat. Veganism might be detrimental to certain people with autoimmune disorders, but that's all i know. Finding an optimal diet for humans in general is nearly impossible because different people react differently to different foods. It's best for individuals to experiment a little to see what works best.
hearing the vegan guy with the thing on his head killed my brain cells, man said he would let the animal kill the human cause he built more relationship than the guy getting killed💀💀
@@Corzappy That's not what he said. He never said the human in the case was morally wrong for defending himself, just that his personal action would be on behalf of the animal. Ever heard of a tragedy?
Think of it this way, if someone started killing your pet, would you just let them do it? This perspective might help make his statement pretty legitimate. 9/10 people would take out the stranger to save their pet (animal life>human life - due to a relationship). Consider John Wick.
I have a vegetarian friend who I feel awful for at times because of clowns like these people dragging her down by association. Some people have a real moral or rational argument for why they're committed to vegetarianism/veganism, and some just want to look like they're smart without having the honesty to admit when they're wrong or when they want to just assert the moral high ground like assholes (like the "would you kill an animal" question)
I feel like Jubilee selectively choose the most extreme people on the side/group that they don’t agree with. There’s usually a clear bias with who jubilee wants you to side with and it never feels fair or representative.
98.7% vegans/vegetarians are on the "extreme" side and I can't just live without being judged by some dumbfucks like xqc who would just spit at me for not eating his favorite McShit
The 7:20 guy is out of his damn mind... By his own logic he wouldn't condemn a friend of his that is threatening the life of a person he doesn't know... Just because he has a "strong connection" with that threatening person ? Also he said he WOULD kill a human over an animal, while saying that people are animals at 7:35 ... But still, he disagreed when the question "Would you kill an animal" was asked... Smartest, wisest, sanest vegan.
You're misunderstanding him to some degree. If you view all animals in the same group, including humans, then you would save the life of the one that you have a closer connection to more. I'm not entirely sure how i would behave if my dog was being viciously attacked by someone, but my gut instinct says i would kill that person, because my dog is like my brother. In these extreme scenarios, you have to make a choice. He was simply explaining his choice, should he be forced to make one.
they explained they didn't think of such extreme cases, that's why they didn't go at first and while I agree his example was kinda bad, his point still holds. If you were to treat all animals equally, then you'd value your relationship with said animal, disregarding the species. One better example would be, between a non human animal (let's say a dog) you spent all your life with, or a human being you don't know, a total stranger, which one would you choose to save first? Your choice would be "killing" the other. If you believe your species is more important, then you save the human If you think they're both just animals, you save the dog (vegan's choice) His reasoning is valid, just poorly delivered
I feel like there’s always a huge bias with who jubilee wants you to side with. They always selectively pick the most extreme people on the side they don’t agree with and in the process it can really misrepresent groups. Its one of the things that makes jubilee so unbearable in my opinion.
i’m surprised that when someone talks about killing an animal they always think about big animals that you can easily feel emphathy for. In my region there are a lot of mosquitos and i kill them if they annoy me, so yes i would kill an animal. It was the easiest argumend but still no one in the show brought it up. The vegan girl would have freaked out.
@@moonillusions832 but the lion is eating meat, go stop it form eating meat because its killing an animal, its your moral duty, if not, you are as guilty as meat eaters.🤣
@@bruhbruh2290 Why would it be my moral duty to stop nature from happening? As humans, we should have the understanding that we don't have to eat animals.
@@moonillusions832 you do realize how long humans have eaten meat right? if you knew your history or science, hominins survived on bone marrow and meat whilst the other predators tried to eat them, that's nature. its your moral duty because you are the one that said "Lions don't have moral agency. We do" that why its your moral duty, how did you contradict yourself that much? stop being a hypocrite
@@bruhbruh2290 Humans can thrive on a plant based diet. End of story. We don’t need to eat meat. Who gives a fuck about cavemen and Neanderthals? They raped each other, too. Should we follow suit? Get outta here
In my experience it's way cheaper to eat healthy. Maybe NA is different? idk, but in Euroop my experience is that healthy food is extremely cheap as long as you have basic cooking skills. Frozen berries are cheap and packed with nutrition. Eggs are cheap, oats is cheap, you can get cheap cuts of red meat, etc...
Most "healthy" food is packed with toxins from all the pesticides, herbicides, fungicides, and synthetic fertilizers they use to grow it. Sure, it's more healthy than McDonalds, but a lot of fresh foods come with their own bad sides. Organic foods are a decent way to avoid that stuff, and they're definitely more expensive. An extreme example of this would be coffee. Coffee has no maximum residue limit for pesticides in the US. That means non-organic coffee is soaked in all sorts of toxic garbage for its whole growth cycle and can be sold just like that with no testing needed. I'm not sure if it's the same situation in Europe, but it's something to consider if you want to eat healthy.
@@Romulux some things are healthier and cheaper like chicken is super cheap at a store even organic chicken and cooking it yourself is pretty healthy .
"Why do you have to pick such extreme examples to justify killing an animal" Proceeds to justify veganism is a healthier lifestyle and you live longer using "my dad was diabetic and was pissing out of a tube" and "my mom was eating buckets of icecream"
When he said that all humans were animals, I was fine with that. But then he said he would kill a human over a fish, I was astonished at how far our brains have evolved
@@user-zu6ts5fb6g if someone is attempting to kill my dog im going to defend it 😀 i dont think it would come to killing the other person but if It did i would.
@@user-zu6ts5fb6g if my dog is the one trying to hurt them it would be different but if its the other way around im not gonna let them kill my dog. I would have worse night terrors if I sat there and let my dog die then if I defended it
I feel like the argument against Human vs Animal lives is completely just idiotic. The amount of power the human mind holds, should in itself win over wether our lives are more valuable than a single wild organism. The infinite amount of possibilities your mind can help contribute to society should always be preserved over the life of an animal.
as a human, obviously that's the case, but we're alsojust one of many species that share the earth and we were also "primitive" at some point. that's probably the only thing i'll agree with the crazy vegan lady on. it's our place to say we are more valuable because we obviously think we are and would be weird to not think that. we just happened to be the most adaptable species and that's that, there's no value beyond that for the world, only value for us as a species.
@@pandakuchen2299 If you're trying to say a mentally handicapped person is equivalent to a wild animal that's kinda weird to bring up that comparison, but I see where you're going, I honestly think the mentally handicap should be left out of the conversation since their is so many unknowns to what they themselves can achieve, but their lives are still definitely more valuable.
This girl omfg, the question was “is it more expensive to eat healthier?”, which she literally agreed with but instead decided to spew a bunch of shit which is related but not what the question specifically asked for.
The guy who thinks animals and humans have the same value is psychotic... He would literally feel equally bad for killing a fish as he would killing a human. Idc what you say that's inhumane.
Veganism is an eating disorder. It's the result of self-destructive moral values, making them feel intense guilt from eating animal products. What they're expressing might seem like hatred of humans, but, this is a misplaced emotion... What he hates is himself, i mean ffs, he views himself as worth less than an animal... he would literally just lie down and willingly die if a predatory animal attacked him... The dude's self-image is horrible, and he's incapable of attributing any more value to another human being's life than he can attribute to his own life... Hence the misplaced emotion. Sound remarkably similar to a n*rcissist, doesn't it? Well they have strong similarities... Just like a n*rcissist, a Vegan also tries to spread their disorder to other people, via psychological abuse, specifically via guilt-tripping and moral grandstanding... Try to make others feel as guilty as they do for eating animal products, and it works too, on vulnerable people. :P Kinda gross, right? Well that's the dark side of the human psyche, it's sneaky, insidious, and absolutely nasty. This is why people generally can't stand vegans, because they exhibit n*rcissistic symptoms...
healthy food is all types of food, depends how well its done and how much you eat and work out, more you make yourself more cheaper it is, jeez dose vegan crazy people are weird
I honestly don't think humans should be classified as animals, we are clearly something above that, something else. The difference between us and a Monkey is the difference between a Monkey and a single celled organism.
The guy would be fine with dying and killing another human to save a goldfish...holy fuck that's some trauma he hasn't gotten help with poking its head right through.
the guy that said the he would let an animal kill someone in front of him because he's known the animal his entire life is so stupid. would you let your best friend randomly kill a guy just because you don't know that person well?
Bro. This girl is literally saying Veganism = Healthy. The question was “Is it more expensive to eat HEALTHY”, and she came out guns blazing talking about capitalism and veganism being cheap. Wtf
I think that it can be cheap and healthy, but so can an omnivorous diet. It is what you make of it. Lentils, beans, whole grains, vegetables - for the most part, those are the most inexpensive things in the grocery store. It depends where you live, of course. People just want to see what they want to see, vegans and non-vegans both.
I think the take that was being looked at again at 14:34 is a bit different than the original question as it's multiple things. 1 being personal relationship vs a stranger, human life vs animal, and in the right or in the wrong. If someone is charging my dog with a knife because he's barking too loudly I wouldn't hesitate to kill the person. If my dog is charging a baby and I know the intent is to kill I'd have to save the baby.
because veganism is an eating disorder, and has nothing to do with health, and everything to do with his feelings of guilt at the idea of eating animal products? A vegan diet lacks many nutrients a human body needs, protein for one. if it wasn't for the convenience of modern technology, vegans would not have access to a wide enough range of plant-related foods that are capable of giving them enough nutrients to live. Ever notice how vegans are often skinny AF, and have absolutely not muscle? They're anorexic, or borderline anorexic from malnutrition. : / The human body needs a lot of nutrients, and the only way a human can derive enough nutrients from a pure-plant diet, is if they eat nonstop, like a horse or cow does... And they don't, simple as that. :P Humans eat animal products, meat specifically, because it is DENSELY packed with crucial nutrients, it cuts down on the amount they need to eat exponentially... So you can choose to eat nonstop like a horse or cow, or you can eat some meat on occasion, and spend the day doing something OTHER than eating for a few hours... your choice. xD
Plants react to environment, music, speech, stress and some can even communicate that to other plants. Just because you can't hear your lettuce scream, doesn't make you a better person than someone that eats all things, like every other damn part of nature. It's up to people to source sustainable and well treated animal produts, that's the real message they don't spread. Just 'do what we do or you are an ebil nadze'.
You're advocating for plants but not the animals you eat, how convenient. Plants feel pain is a disingenuous argument because if one truly believes plants feel pain and acts accordingly, then this person will get escorted to mental institution by force to get evaluated.
its because being vegan actually is a better thing then being a meat eater, im not a vegan myself but atleast i can understand both sides and not just call a vegan an idiot
@@HunterBelkiran Veganism is an eating disorder, bro... The result of intense feelings of guilt at the idea of eating animal products combined with the lack of self-worth making them unable to place themselves, or their life for that matter, above that of an animal's. It's basically a sub-category of n*rcissism... hence the constant verbal abuse via virtue-signaling, and most importantly, moral grandstanding, in an attempt to make others feel the same way about the idea of eating animal products... They're attempting to spread their disorder to other people... And it works against people who are in a ps*chologically vulnerable state of mind. It's entirely ps*chological... The "Moral" and "Ethical" portion, is actually just an argument they used as a result of misplaced emotions, emotional deflection. So when they talk, and you sense they have a hatred for humans, that's actually their hatred of self, that they've misplaced on everyone else, so they don't have to confront their own problems... Instead of being accountable, confronting their problems by admitting to themselves that they are the one who is sick, they instead tell themselves that they are the healthy one, and that everyone else is sick. The same way a n*rcissist tells themselves that they are right, and that the world is wrong. :P I say it one more time... veganism is an eating disorder, a SERIOUS eating disorder. if it wasn't for the convenience of mdoern technology, allowing you to get access to every kind of edible plant in your local area, a vegan diet, would slowly KILL you. : / So any argument for "health" doesn't work, either. :P
the fact that 4 people didnt think humans are at the top of the food chain, and that one guy who thought that talked about food chain as being a moral thing is really sad
I’m all for eating meat, I am a steak loving American after all, but let’s not kid ourself. Animals are decent folks, they’re nicer and more respectable than most people. We should at least give the animals we eat a humane life on a nice farm before we slaughter them for their meaty goodness. I know most of you are epic gamers who hate vegans because luls, but it’s sad to see the animals we eat so depressed in those dirty cages, they should at least have a nice field they can enjoy. If you spent even a single day with a happy farm animal, you’ll know what I mean.
4:14 if our ancestor's didn't kill, if our ancestor's didn't begin cooking meat. We wouldn't be what we are today, we wouldn't exist. Today, unfortunately, we've killed SO MANY animals, many species have started to become endangered, even extinct. However besides that, the sad story of life is for one to survive another will die. All life consumes, is dependent, on something else. Whether it be a gas, plant life, meats etc... it's inherently how life operates.
Humans eating psychedelic shrooms during the search for food established new connections in our brains... the meat eating allowed these new connections to be sustainable by providing way more nutrients than plants could give us. Without meat-eating, we would still be monkeys right now. : / it is solely due to omnivorous humans, that these Vegans are even ABLE to morally grandstand about their Veganism, lmao. But hey, veganism is just an eating disorder, so who cares? :P
There aren't as many health food options in the hood because healthy food costs more money and generally speaking those in the hood would rather buy extremely cheap food so that they could use the excess money on scratch tickets liquor and menthols.
@@g76agi I watch every reaction video of x Jubilee's always been like this and to be fair this isn't good when you actually have good reasons and the guy representing is spilling garbage...
@@Xrossbot dont care about jubilee videos, people that unironically base their opinions with those videos probably arent even worth trying to explain whatever you have to explain, just look at it as entertainment
Peta. I remember back in the day they used to kidnap perfectly happy and healthy pets of people's homes and the euthinize those same pets. Disgusting "human" beings.
@@tahmkench118 As far as I know, that only happened once, with some girl's dog. Still fucked. Also they put 50 lobsters into fresh water, which killed them.
This was so weird when the person mentioned how they had to be 'aware' that they are in mountain lion territory when hiking. Even if you are aware of the region you are hiking in, are you not going to defend yourself if you are confronted by the specie? Are you just gonna let the lion eat you alive without any obstacle nor resistance? Even if you are not aware of the region you are hiking in, will you apply that this lion is superior to you and; therefore, eat you alive?
Now he is saying that he would feel awful about defending himself successfully because the specie happened to be a mountain lion. If this specie was another human being and he needed to do self-defense, let's see how he would react since this should be on the level of defending himself against a mountain lion.
Healthier life is indeed expensive or cost more than eating what in front of you. People think if they became vegan they will live longer or they are healthier as the girl in the video, but that's totally wrong, you can still eat ice cream and live longer than 43 years. The question is what is a healthy meal? It's a meal that contains perfect percentage depending on what the body needs like protein, carb and so on. You can eat what your body needs with no extra or less and that is a healthy life, that goes for everything that the body needs. It's not like someone eat meat then a vegan person is healthier. If his body needs 100gm protein then he can eat meat which is equivalent to 100gm protein, with no extra fat or salt or whatever you cook with.
except we're not cavemen anymore, and most people eat for the taste of food, if you gave someone a perfect amount of meat 3 times a day with no salt or fat or whatever, just one piece of meat, and them offer them a pizza of course theyre gonna get the pizza, but if you offer them like steak with sauce and mashed potatoes, well, theyre gonna go for the steak..... and then the pizza
@@g76agi you misunderstood what I meant, I'm not eating healthy food, I'm just saying what healthy food is. And proving for vegan who say "I'm vegan, I'm healthy" that you can be healthy when you are vegan and when you aren't, and it's more expensive to do that. I need the juice man, I'm talking about some meat greas, that's how I eat. Ps: I said with no "extra" fat or any other ingredients, just balance it, not without fat at all ofc.
"it is NOT more expensive! that is a myth!" "Capitalism makes veganism more expensive!" Can you believe these 2 statements were made by the same person, and within 1 minute of eachother?
@@mastegoh7139 You're ignoring the deadly path vegans are taking to just avoid killing or eating animals. It's not just the moral aspect I'm talking about.
Meat eaters really love completely ignoring their destructive and compassionless ways that ruin lives. This global pandemic is all due to humans eating flesh. Veganism can easily solve world hunger, yet meat eaters refuse to give up corpses. And Vegans apparently don't give a shit about human lives? 🙄
Oh god videos with vegans on the internet are always so cringe inducing. I know a lot of people who don't eat meat and it's never something you know about them until you're looking for a place to eat dinner with them. I actually don't know how Jubilee even finds these extreme and ridiculous people
I want to see a lower class American kid ask his parents to buy vegan ingredients. They'll come back from the store with a can of green beans. I genuinely want to know how many "lifelong" vegans were born into wealthier families.
you really don’t have to be wealthy or privileged to buy plant based food, it’s some of the cheapest out there and there’s really no need to buy all the processed stuff like imitation meat or fake cheese which are probably the expensive foods you’re thinking about
I like how they always say vegan = long life. Ive never heard of the oldest people on earth ever being lifetime vegan. Until the oldest person on earth is a lifetime vegan, then eating meat = longest life EZ clap
"It does not cost more money to be vegan." Right. Tell that to my vegan track teammate who was severely underweight and passed out during practices because her family couldn't afford the cost of a vegan diet while she was running track.
He said he would feel awful if he killed a mountain lion but not if he killed a human being that he doesn't know how about the lion he doesn't know it either so why feel awful about it but can kill a human
The guy saying he would just let himself be eaten by a mountain lion is natural selection
If we handed that guy a gun and let a lion out of a cage to go attack him then I GUARANTEE that he would pull the trigger to defend himself as anyone else would, he has a survival instinct just like anyone else. The fact he thinks that he wouldn't defend himself and let himself be killed is hilarious...
@CitrusWhisps I’d make two movements.
A bowel movement, and a physical movement.
Shit and run.
@CitrusWhisps how the fuck can your brain forgor to use a gun.
Dementia?
Alzheimer's?
i wonder of all the people in this show are actually fake or something( it just feels to stereotypical ) cause i feel like insults would go around more eazely in these conversations (at least i would start cracking jokes at the 2 annoying vegans,maybe they just edit it out )
@@Corzappy my man
Bunny watching a full grown bear charging at them: “Welp im dead but i took the risk OkayChamp 👍🏻”
Feelings>Survival LULW
@@Qiyokuu xqcL tho OMEGALUL
@@Qiyokuu 😭
its so stupid though he literally even said "If my attempt were successful, I would feel awful" but literally nobody cares, the question was would you kill an animal and that means you will even if you feel awful. These vegans were straight up deflecting the questions the whole way through
They answered this question terribly, as a vegan, Ofcourse in self defence killing is justified, if a human was to try and murder me I’d fight back also.
But I would needlessly kill another being when there’s a choice not to.
"Eating buckets of ice cream" I don't think her mother's issue was not being vegan
Yeah wtf...
Isn't that a strawman, I don't think they said that.
@@Kitusser 🤓☝️”strawMan argument here, detected!” 🤓☝️
@@gdfkpmw1803 🤓 = correct. Classic twitch chat.
@@Kitusser No it wasn't a strawman, she mentioned that her mom was eating buckets of ice cream while arguing why not being vegan is bad for your body, However, everyone knows that ice cream has barely any nutrition and is packed with sugar.
"Why does it have to be a drastic situation of would I kill an animal" what answer did she want from the people willing to kill an animal???? "Oh yeah I'd stomp a fucking puppy if I saw it on the street" like they gave legitimate answers as to why they would be willing to kill an animal, she was just hellbent on disagreeing with any given answer. What a clown.
I hope they invite you to this show
@@qvnn I hope they don't, I wouldn't be able to uphold a civil discussion while being bombarded with this level of dogshit.
These kind of people are so easily triggered and can't even think straight.....what if i find a dying deer next to a road on my way home, happens all the time because people ram them and just keep driving. I would relieve it of it's pain because that's the only good thing you good do for the animal.
@@64thKomapatient I'd imagine the mental gymnastics would go along the lines of "What gives you the authority to decide wether the animal should live or not? If a human was terminally ill, would you just go and kill them against their will too?" It's like they refuse to accept that more complex thought processes merit a more thorough consideration of one's will and intent.
@@dogma4593 Do you really choose to be an idiot here? Killing a human being is illegal in general, with or without their consent. If a human being is deemed dead and only suffers for days, weeks or years like my grandpa did, it would be great to respect their wish to die. A dying animal that can't be saved doesn't understand what is happening to them, it only feels pain and suffering. How is it a bad thing to help them in that situation? You didn't ask to walk the forests they live in or use the roads we built on their land. How dare you judge people while you are part of the problem.
“Most of these companies that are selling us shitty food, don’t give a fuck about you”
Well neither will that mountain lion trying to kill you for “being on their land”
You know about that cancer pesticides they spray on food
@@tony_5156 Shocker, farmers don't want parasites to destroy their entire crop harvest. Also, all pesticides go through FDA and agricultural regulation approval for use, which ensures certain health standards for the pesticides. The "cancer" in pesticides is in dispute and many organizations including American cancer research group claim there is no link between pesticides and cancer.
@@tony_5156 Nice regurgitated argument that you've never actually researched. Classic.
@@snkybrki so what’s your defense to that then? You just spat some snarky comment with no argument whatsoever. What’s your research?
@@tony_5156 Who is they? Small scale farmers? Big scale farmers? Agriculture conglomerates?
Shes actually right that being vegan is not expensive because all you have to do is go outside and take a bite out of the grass.
@@GlennGJ100 Ahhh yesss, eat dogshit food every single day
@@ivangomezprado434 lmaooo
@@ivangomezprado434 I mean eating meh food every day that is alot better for you and the environment is a trade alot of people are willing to do.
@@ivangomezprado434 Rice and beans is dogshit Gomez? 🌚🌮🫔🌯
@@GlennGJ100 Not everyone has the time to be cooking full meals from scratch three times a day.
Bro the guy said food chain is a myth. Even Felix saying "Mammoth eats bear" sounded smarter than that😂😂😂😂
😂
Calling something a social construct doesn't mean it doesn't exist. But it's still equally dumb for him have said "the food chain is a social construct, so I can't engage with the question" Race is another social construct. A social construct simply means something that we as a society have constructed and holds little to no basis in objective reality.
Tldr: calling something a social construct doesn't mean it's a myth or isn't real
@@FortisV ok I may have inaccurately re-worded it. But the food chain sure as hell isn't a social construct. It literally groups organisms by their food habits and helps study the transfer of energy. It's a dumb statement to make whichever way you look at it.
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“I wouldn’t kill an animal”
We will now be releasing a mountain lion into the room.
In jigsaw voice XD
LMAOOO
"but i took the risk so its fine OkayChamp"
The bandana guy has to be the most braindead person I have ever seen
lets not talk about all the animals that die to produce crops. Or all the animals who die / have their habitats destroyed to create homes for humans. But ya we'll conveniently ignore that...
"If that animal is threatening the life of a person"
Basically, he would be an accomplice to a killer just because he's friends with them. Smartest vegan for sure man. I'm losing hope.
yeh i'm honestly disappointed in how stupid the people that they invited are. If you want to see a vegan with more than 2 brain cells look up cosmic skeptic's "a meat eater's case for veganism" video. He's a vegan now but back when he made that video he ate meat and was just discussing philosophically why one should go vegan and he kept his word.
@@Chepperz Isn't it still kind of worthless since the food is already at the store anyway/will expire? Someone being vegan won't really alter the food supply/help animals in any way. Also, plants have feelings too, so eating a salad is just as bad.
@@mystic95 i don't think you understand how supply and demand works. If everyone went vegan and all the meat just expired after no one picking it up do you think the animal industry would just keep pumping out meat no matter how many losses they incur?
@@mystic95 Just because the vegans in this video were really not the smartest bunch doesn't mean you had to be the counterweight for the meat eaters side.
@@mystic95 i am losing braincells
*Mountain Lion Approaches the Vegan*
Vegan: "Don't worry I'm not going to harm you"
*Lion still fucking kills him*
Profile picture checks out
The irony in having that pfp and commenting this lmao good one 💀
Lmao
Reminds me of that documentary where the guy goes to live with the bears and gets eaten
Usually not what happens..
Hunter hiding in the bushes with his rifle and shoots an innocent deer in the chest
I swear jubilee has a talent on finding some clowns to represent groups of people
Except flat eartherers, they were perfect representation of their 'kind'
Have u seen the people that run the show? They're basically just picking out people from their friend groups lol.
Not that hard to find vegan clowns
I mean, thats part of the show is it not? To create discussion? I don't think it would be nearly entertaining to see people understand and empathize and agree together. They find the people that are on the more extreme side of things to spark that argument. I may have worded that poorly but hopefully you get it.
@@Ripcraze Imagine being friends with some of these freaks
He said Ma-Moth… This dudes hilarious.
I didn't know that ma-moth eat bears 🐻
MA MOTH MegaLUL
Did you know this dude can draw a perfect circle?
Ma-Moth Man 65
First time?
His reaction to "the problem is capitalism" had me rolling and crying I was laughing so hard.
Average hasan viewer
Her argument instantly meant she should've went with the first bunch that said yes it is too expensive
You could argue that veganism and capitalism correlate considering that veganism is a recent thing in a human history consisting primarily of hunter gathering.
The irony is vegans can only exist under the abundance that capitalism brings. Poor nations don't have the luxury of limiting the type of calories they eat. I guess socialism has created hundreds of millions of vegans by failing to provide any food to them at all as they starve to death.
@@danb4900 veganism isnt a recent thing in human history, its a recent thing in western society
The dude saying that if he has a relationship with an animal he raised and that said animal kills a human being he would instead choose to kill the human is straight up crazy. He is throwing away responsibility for raising that animal. If the animal kills someone its on him and there is no one else to blame than himself. The girl asking why does it have to be the most drastic scenarios, because we are talking about killing an animal and most people would try to spare the animal even if they are "meat eaters" so that's why. When it comes to killing animals for food i believe everyone who eats meat should be able to do it or at least understand what they are eating but i bet there are a lot of people who eat meat but would never be able to kill an animal..
You're assuming that the animal is the aggressor in this hypothetical scenario, personally if I had an animal that I had raised and it was attacked by human I would choose to save the animal over the human if there was no chance of de-escalation. If it was even a mutual combat situation I would hope the animal came out safe. But if I had no attachment to it either the animal or the human I would likely save the human unless the animal was endangered or a long lived intelligent animal such as an elephant etc.
@@Mr.Sr.Jr. The fact you would let a stranger die over a wild animal you don’t know shows how low your morals are,
Ofcourse if someone is ATTACKING your animal you wouldn’t defend the person..
But If YOUR animal attacks a random
person, you are responsible for any harm it does
Just like the 2 Parents going to jail for buying the most recent school shooter his gun then he kills people.
Human or Animal You do what is RIGHT in the situation no matter what attachment you have.
@@iusen64pad @Rooberang Everything is circumstantial. If a stranger is attacking a wild animal it would not be immoral to allow the scenario to play out, if a wild animal attacked a stranger I would absolutely intervene. Just because a person has a difference of opinion does not mean their morals are lower than yours, get off your high horse. I agree if my animal attacks a person I am responsible, I never said otherwise. Get a handle on your emotions and read a comment thoroughly before making accusations. 🖖🏽
The question was "would you kill an animal." As in like ever, under any circumstance. The vegans said they would *never* kill an animal under any circumstance. If you can watch a mountain lion or a bear maul a baby to death in front of you and make no attempt to intervene that might hurt the animal, you're actually a soulless subhuman. Same goes if you would feel worse killing that animal than you would watching a baby be mauled and eaten. Of course you'd feel bad killing an animal, but you should feel worse watching a baby be eaten alive, a lot worse.
@@Mr.Sr.Jr. Some people just can't imagine a scenario from other perspectives. I am 100% with you, It ALL depends on the SITUATION.
I love how these vegans are like these guys loving coming up with drastic scenarios. Then the 1 vegan dude proceeds to do just that 7:20
Exactly dude, I was thinking the same. Actual fucking hypocrites. Plus the fact he asks why he should kill an animal over human is stupid as fuck. He may have a longer relationship with an animal than the human in his drastic, hypocritical hypothetical that no one seems to have a problem with, but it’s also not human and doesn’t have the same level of emotional intelligence/regular intelligence or consciousness, so it’s just fucked to say you’d let a human die.
But I don't get why he even brings it up... at the end of the day will you kill an animal to save a human? I sure hope the answer is yes... and if another human is going to kill another person then yes I'm gonna try to save that person if it means killing him ... he's the bad guy he was tryna kill someone
Fish= human 😂😂😂
@@hectichive889 Yea because they have instincts unlike humans killing others with clear intentions just to kill
@@Sami-es8db No bro to this guy.. fish > human
@@helpy8973 yeah sorry my mistake 😅 my mind is still trying to process his rationale
8:54 This is so stupid, she's implying that being vegan is the only healthy way of eating when it's not and in some cases can be detrimental for some people.
Veganism is not a diet. Plantbased is. :)
I have never heard of a case in which being vegan is detrimental to someone's health but you are right in saying it's not the only healthy way of eating since as long as you're staying away from red meat, processed meat, processed foods in general as well as just having a well planned out diet that meets nutritional needs properly, you'll do just fine. Although I will say that the research in what the optimal diet is, points towards a diet that's mostly plant based anyways.
@@Chepperz LMAOOOO. Look up "epitome of malnourishment" on youtube
@@Chepperz Red meat is extremely healthy, and not comparable to processed meat.
Veganism might be detrimental to certain people with autoimmune disorders, but that's all i know.
Finding an optimal diet for humans in general is nearly impossible because different people react differently to different foods. It's best for individuals to experiment a little to see what works best.
@@AR-xl6ym now why would I do that
hearing the vegan guy with the thing on his head killed my brain cells, man said he would let the animal kill the human cause he built more relationship than the guy getting killed💀💀
“If I love a bear you’re morally wrong for killing it when it comes into your home and starts killing your wife and kids”
And then it would turn around and eat him too...
Herbivore: 0
Carnivore: 2
@@Corzappy That's not what he said. He never said the human in the case was morally wrong for defending himself, just that his personal action would be on behalf of the animal. Ever heard of a tragedy?
Think of it this way, if someone started killing your pet, would you just let them do it? This perspective might help make his statement pretty legitimate. 9/10 people would take out the stranger to save their pet (animal life>human life - due to a relationship). Consider John Wick.
With the thing on his head? Lmao bruh its called a bandana dude
average twitter users, LA is home to some absolute mutants holy fuck
LA OMEGALUL
Saying twitter is full of vegans is like saying Reddit has no pedos
@@Pherretfish when did I say this? literally nobody said that and nobody asked.
@@Magpy93 but you said “average twitter user”? Hello?
@@Pherretfish yea as in being absurdly extremist and braindead
How the ex vegan guy, is not losing his mind in the presense of the vegans is crazy to me. Mad respect to him.😂
I have a vegetarian friend who I feel awful for at times because of clowns like these people dragging her down by association. Some people have a real moral or rational argument for why they're committed to vegetarianism/veganism, and some just want to look like they're smart without having the honesty to admit when they're wrong or when they want to just assert the moral high ground like assholes (like the "would you kill an animal" question)
I feel like Jubilee selectively choose the most extreme people on the side/group that they don’t agree with. There’s usually a clear bias with who jubilee wants you to side with and it never feels fair or representative.
98.7% vegans/vegetarians are on the "extreme" side and I can't just live without being judged by some dumbfucks like xqc who would just spit at me for not eating his favorite McShit
Their is no Argument either do it or dont.
@@9jizhu568 yeah right, 30% of all indians are on the 'extreme' side because you said so 😑
@@rytosu8372 LMAO
The 7:20 guy is out of his damn mind... By his own logic he wouldn't condemn a friend of his that is threatening the life of a person he doesn't know... Just because he has a "strong connection" with that threatening person ?
Also he said he WOULD kill a human over an animal, while saying that people are animals at 7:35 ... But still, he disagreed when the question "Would you kill an animal" was asked...
Smartest, wisest, sanest vegan.
I'm not vegan but I'd rather kill a human than an animal
@@user-jq2ow6fn9b You're a psychopath that's different.
You're misunderstanding him to some degree. If you view all animals in the same group, including humans, then you would save the life of the one that you have a closer connection to more.
I'm not entirely sure how i would behave if my dog was being viciously attacked by someone, but my gut instinct says i would kill that person, because my dog is like my brother.
In these extreme scenarios, you have to make a choice. He was simply explaining his choice, should he be forced to make one.
they explained they didn't think of such extreme cases, that's why they didn't go at first
and while I agree his example was kinda bad, his point still holds. If you were to treat all animals equally, then you'd value your relationship with said animal, disregarding the species.
One better example would be, between a non human animal (let's say a dog) you spent all your life with, or a human being you don't know, a total stranger, which one would you choose to save first? Your choice would be "killing" the other.
If you believe your species is more important, then you save the human
If you think they're both just animals, you save the dog (vegan's choice)
His reasoning is valid, just poorly delivered
@@maths8458 You obviously don't know what a psychopath is. Your life is not worth more than the life of an animal.
Vegan is a respectable way of life, so why do they pick the weirdest people to represent it in this video?
Being a furry is just a hobby, so why do people always pick the weirdest people to ruin what the fandom is?
@@Changingtesting lmao
@@Changingtesting because it's a lot harder to find a normal person who's a furry
@@Changingtesting because being a furry is inherently bad, being a vegan isn't
But it isn't being a vegan comes from a warped way of thinking
Watching this while eating my daily chicken for gains. Keep malding
Reeeeeeeeeee🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶
you can get the same gains if you just eat 1000 pounds of chickpeas instead 🙄 🤬
based dandy
Watching this while eating raw bloody steak hmmmmmm.
@@weakenbest516 oi you 3head its myoglobin us medium rare chads will alway correct the beta raw and overcooked plebs
I feel like there’s always a huge bias with who jubilee wants you to side with. They always selectively pick the most extreme people on the side they don’t agree with and in the process it can really misrepresent groups. Its one of the things that makes jubilee so unbearable in my opinion.
they just want views
Or maybe vegans and flat earthers are just that crazy
i’m surprised that when someone talks about killing an animal they always think about big animals that you can easily feel emphathy for. In my region there are a lot of mosquitos and i kill them if they annoy me, so yes i would kill an animal. It was the easiest argumend but still no one in the show brought it up. The vegan girl would have freaked out.
Wtf dude i hope you feel bad about yourself. Do you even think about their families?
@@rash3571 They could have lived a fruitful life of two more weeks if he didn't kill them. WeirdChamp
@@rash3571 cant think about their family if all of them are dead
Those mosquitoes had kids WeirdChamp
Mosquito killer WeirdChamp
"I mean, what is a food chain ? It's invented by a guy"
go tell a Lion to stop eating zebra then
Lions don't have moral agency. We do.
@@moonillusions832 but the lion is eating meat, go stop it form eating meat because its killing an animal, its your moral duty, if not, you are as guilty as meat eaters.🤣
@@bruhbruh2290 Why would it be my moral duty to stop nature from happening? As humans, we should have the understanding that we don't have to eat animals.
@@moonillusions832 you do realize how long humans have eaten meat right? if you knew your history or science, hominins survived on bone marrow and meat whilst the other predators tried to eat them, that's nature. its your moral duty because you are the one that said "Lions don't have moral agency. We do" that why its your moral duty, how did you contradict yourself that much? stop being a hypocrite
@@bruhbruh2290 Humans can thrive on a plant based diet. End of story. We don’t need to eat meat. Who gives a fuck about cavemen and Neanderthals? They raped each other, too. Should we follow suit? Get outta here
In my experience it's way cheaper to eat healthy.
Maybe NA is different? idk, but in Euroop my experience is that healthy food is extremely cheap as long as you have basic cooking skills.
Frozen berries are cheap and packed with nutrition. Eggs are cheap, oats is cheap, you can get cheap cuts of red meat, etc...
It really depends.
Also whats healthy for you i guess because some takes on whats healthy and whats not are weird.
Most "healthy" food is packed with toxins from all the pesticides, herbicides, fungicides, and synthetic fertilizers they use to grow it. Sure, it's more healthy than McDonalds, but a lot of fresh foods come with their own bad sides. Organic foods are a decent way to avoid that stuff, and they're definitely more expensive.
An extreme example of this would be coffee. Coffee has no maximum residue limit for pesticides in the US. That means non-organic coffee is soaked in all sorts of toxic garbage for its whole growth cycle and can be sold just like that with no testing needed. I'm not sure if it's the same situation in Europe, but it's something to consider if you want to eat healthy.
@@Romulux some things are healthier and cheaper like chicken is super cheap at a store even organic chicken and cooking it yourself is pretty healthy .
@@Romulux buy healthy food from the local market not supermarket,it's a lot healthier and it doesn't contain pesticides,herbicides,etc
you can see the difference in the way they dress
yeah lol
"Why do you have to pick such extreme examples to justify killing an animal"
Proceeds to justify veganism is a healthier lifestyle and you live longer using "my dad was diabetic and was pissing out of a tube" and "my mom was eating buckets of icecream"
"if i had raised a mountain lion in the wild"
"Why do you pick such extremes"
1 minute later: "If I had raised a mountain lion in a reverse Jungle Book situation..."
Humans are biologically omnivores, we can chose any diet we please.
humans are also biomechanically capable of killing, does that mean we can/should choose to kill?
@@dano.d.d6726 totally depends on what you're killing and why you're killing it.
@@dano.d.d6726 yes
@@dano.d.d6726 yes
@@dano.d.d6726 Yes
When he said that all humans were animals, I was fine with that.
But then he said he would kill a human over a fish, I was astonished at how far our brains have evolved
even non vegans would kill a human over something like a dog, people are crazy these days
@@user-zu6ts5fb6g dog is understandable in certain scenarios but a fish 😂
@@tweedycheetah2083 Clearly you are crazy or still a kid
@@user-zu6ts5fb6g if someone is attempting to kill my dog im going to defend it 😀 i dont think it would come to killing the other person but if It did i would.
@@user-zu6ts5fb6g if my dog is the one trying to hurt them it would be different but if its the other way around im not gonna let them kill my dog. I would have worse night terrors if I sat there and let my dog die then if I defended it
11:05 bro really brought his dead dad into this 💀
I feel like the argument against Human vs Animal lives is completely just idiotic. The amount of power the human mind holds, should in itself win over wether our lives are more valuable than a single wild organism. The infinite amount of possibilities your mind can help contribute to society should always be preserved over the life of an animal.
idk man, by that logic an average persons life would be worth more than that of someone who's mentally handicapped
as a human, obviously that's the case, but we're alsojust one of many species that share the earth and we were also "primitive" at some point. that's probably the only thing i'll agree with the crazy vegan lady on. it's our place to say we are more valuable because we obviously think we are and would be weird to not think that. we just happened to be the most adaptable species and that's that, there's no value beyond that for the world, only value for us as a species.
@@pandakuchen2299 If you're trying to say a mentally handicapped person is equivalent to a wild animal that's kinda weird to bring up that comparison, but I see where you're going, I honestly think the mentally handicap should be left out of the conversation since their is so many unknowns to what they themselves can achieve, but their lives are still definitely more valuable.
@@Zsterism I just wanted to point out that I think our contribution to society should not be a metric for how valuable our life is
@@pandakuchen2299 Well understandably so, but if you actually think about it that is quite literally what it is.
Literally starting having brain damage when that guy in the brown kangol hat said " like, i dont even see what is like a food chain"😂😂😂😂
This girl omfg, the question was “is it more expensive to eat healthier?”, which she literally agreed with but instead decided to spew a bunch of shit which is related but not what the question specifically asked for.
Vegan with wild animals: "oh my gosh you guyyzzz we have a spiritual connection"
Gets ripped to shreds 5 seconds later
TrollDespair when will it end...
The guy who thinks animals and humans have the same value is psychotic... He would literally feel equally bad for killing a fish as he would killing a human. Idc what you say that's inhumane.
You dont understand, he does not hate humans, he just loves animals as much as he loves humans
@@jippi7143 He would let a mountain lion eviscerate a crippled child with leukemia is what you’re saying.
@@jippi7143 A lion isn't gonna reciprocate that love when it mauls a child.
@@Corzappy I mean...he's not far from dying so why would you stop the lion tbh
Veganism is an eating disorder.
It's the result of self-destructive moral values, making them feel intense guilt from eating animal products.
What they're expressing might seem like hatred of humans, but, this is a misplaced emotion... What he hates is himself, i mean ffs, he views himself as worth less than an animal... he would literally just lie down and willingly die if a predatory animal attacked him... The dude's self-image is horrible, and he's incapable of attributing any more value to another human being's life than he can attribute to his own life... Hence the misplaced emotion.
Sound remarkably similar to a n*rcissist, doesn't it? Well they have strong similarities... Just like a n*rcissist, a Vegan also tries to spread their disorder to other people, via psychological abuse, specifically via guilt-tripping and moral grandstanding... Try to make others feel as guilty as they do for eating animal products, and it works too, on vulnerable people. :P
Kinda gross, right? Well that's the dark side of the human psyche, it's sneaky, insidious, and absolutely nasty.
This is why people generally can't stand vegans, because they exhibit n*rcissistic symptoms...
Can he stop watching fucking Jubilee, this is literal torture...
Imagine if the only proof that humans ever existed were Jubilee videos...
soyest of the soy Jubilee
xQc asking chat to be sure if food chain really is what he thinks LOL
"I would feel terrible for killing the mountain lion"
I would feel terrible being fucking mauled in the woods
I feel better about my life choices every time I watch a Jubilee video. Holy….
Find me a vegan no one wants to punch in the face. Jubilee: Not today
sadge
I can never understand how vegans have so much compassion for animals that have none of the same for them
healthy food is all types of food, depends how well its done and how much you eat and work out, more you make yourself more cheaper it is, jeez dose vegan crazy people are weird
if you're equal with an animal what gives the animal the right to kill you over you killing them especially in self defense
I honestly don't think humans should be classified as animals, we are clearly something above that, something else. The difference between us and a Monkey is the difference between a Monkey and a single celled organism.
Its already bad that you could see who the vegan was before they did anything
The guy would be fine with dying and killing another human to save a goldfish...holy fuck that's some trauma he hasn't gotten help with poking its head right through.
"Do you choose to take a life" AYOOO someone tell this lady that plants are alive too and they are much less intelligent than humans
stfu plants are not sentient
@@emty1919 they are still living organisms, and people kill them and eat them, sometimes they eat them alive. Plants can feel stress too you know
@@jojowasukranian8131 plants can react to some environmental influences but they dont "feel stress" or feel anything for that matter
@@emty1919 but they do, ask my potato I grow on my window.
the guy that said the he would let an animal kill someone in front of him because he's known the animal his entire life is so stupid.
would you let your best friend randomly kill a guy just because you don't know that person well?
As a vegan I'm gonna say this rn
I don't like other vegans, majority of them are annoying as hell ngl
Idk most of the vegans I've met are pretty chill. The annoying ones tend to draw peoples' attention more, obviously.
People love to virtue signal.
The fact that everybody didnt sit down for the food chain question is already a terrible sign.
Healthy food being more expensive = blame capatilism lmao
Bro. This girl is literally saying Veganism = Healthy. The question was “Is it more expensive to eat HEALTHY”, and she came out guns blazing talking about capitalism and veganism being cheap. Wtf
I think that it can be cheap and healthy, but so can an omnivorous diet. It is what you make of it. Lentils, beans, whole grains, vegetables - for the most part, those are the most inexpensive things in the grocery store. It depends where you live, of course. People just want to see what they want to see, vegans and non-vegans both.
The problem with these Jubilee videos is that none of them are one side versus another.
They're all l.a. people versus l.a. people.
I think the take that was being looked at again at 14:34 is a bit different than the original question as it's multiple things. 1 being personal relationship vs a stranger, human life vs animal, and in the right or in the wrong. If someone is charging my dog with a knife because he's barking too loudly I wouldn't hesitate to kill the person. If my dog is charging a baby and I know the intent is to kill I'd have to save the baby.
I only saw 1 frame and I can already say that the dude with the pigtails is vegan.
Why is bandana dude taking moral stances on these arguments when his only stated reason for being vegan is health related.
because veganism is an eating disorder, and has nothing to do with health, and everything to do with his feelings of guilt at the idea of eating animal products?
A vegan diet lacks many nutrients a human body needs, protein for one. if it wasn't for the convenience of modern technology, vegans would not have access to a wide enough range of plant-related foods that are capable of giving them enough nutrients to live.
Ever notice how vegans are often skinny AF, and have absolutely not muscle? They're anorexic, or borderline anorexic from malnutrition. : /
The human body needs a lot of nutrients, and the only way a human can derive enough nutrients from a pure-plant diet, is if they eat nonstop, like a horse or cow does... And they don't, simple as that. :P
Humans eat animal products, meat specifically, because it is DENSELY packed with crucial nutrients, it cuts down on the amount they need to eat exponentially... So you can choose to eat nonstop like a horse or cow, or you can eat some meat on occasion, and spend the day doing something OTHER than eating for a few hours... your choice. xD
@@MyouKyuubi you have problems
@@MyouKyuubi maybe americans need to switch to a vegan diet
@@unclebary1866 True, seeing the world for what it really is, truly is a problem. :P
@@Guru-mb4mh It's a great way to lose weight! :)
xqc the type of person to eat a sandwich with mustard
wdym its good
@@clyde1229 true
with a side of freshly chewed toenails
aww mustard
Plants react to environment, music, speech, stress and some can even communicate that to other plants. Just because you can't hear your lettuce scream, doesn't make you a better person than someone that eats all things, like every other damn part of nature. It's up to people to source sustainable and well treated animal produts, that's the real message they don't spread. Just 'do what we do or you are an ebil nadze'.
You're advocating for plants but not the animals you eat, how convenient. Plants feel pain is a disingenuous argument because if one truly believes plants feel pain and acts accordingly, then this person will get escorted to mental institution by force to get evaluated.
Am I the only one to notice that people get triggered by vegans way more
I mean... did you not see that woman? Anyone would get triggered just hearing her talk.
its because being vegan actually is a better thing then being a meat eater, im not a vegan myself but atleast i can understand both sides and not just call a vegan an idiot
As a vegan, I'm getting triggered by these vegans. I would probably follow the same actions as them but I have way more logical reasoning behind it
@@lb_anth0ny240 yall talking shit about vegans but have no argument lmao
@@jippi7143 Dude I'm just saying she was annoying asf as a joke (she is still annoying tho). I wasn't even talking shit to vegans.
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I love how you could already tell who was vegan and who wasnt lmao
Veganism is actually really good but when people make it their whole personality its kinda doomed for them irl
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just like being an atheist or like being religious.
Veganism is not good, it's an eating disorder.
@@MyouKyuubi Veganism is a moral and ethical philosophy, not a diet.
@@HunterBelkiran Veganism is an eating disorder, bro... The result of intense feelings of guilt at the idea of eating animal products combined with the lack of self-worth making them unable to place themselves, or their life for that matter, above that of an animal's.
It's basically a sub-category of n*rcissism... hence the constant verbal abuse via virtue-signaling, and most importantly, moral grandstanding, in an attempt to make others feel the same way about the idea of eating animal products...
They're attempting to spread their disorder to other people... And it works against people who are in a ps*chologically vulnerable state of mind.
It's entirely ps*chological... The "Moral" and "Ethical" portion, is actually just an argument they used as a result of misplaced emotions, emotional deflection.
So when they talk, and you sense they have a hatred for humans, that's actually their hatred of self, that they've misplaced on everyone else, so they don't have to confront their own problems...
Instead of being accountable, confronting their problems by admitting to themselves that they are the one who is sick, they instead tell themselves that they are the healthy one, and that everyone else is sick.
The same way a n*rcissist tells themselves that they are right, and that the world is wrong. :P
I say it one more time... veganism is an eating disorder, a SERIOUS eating disorder.
if it wasn't for the convenience of mdoern technology, allowing you to get access to every kind of edible plant in your local area, a vegan diet, would slowly KILL you. : /
So any argument for "health" doesn't work, either. :P
Saw someone in chat say "Eat toe nails 😋" at 9:55 and started dying OMEGALUL
I watched this video while chewing on a rat I just killed, it was tasty to say the least
Chad.
the fact that 4 people didnt think humans are at the top of the food chain, and that one guy who thought that talked about food chain as being a moral thing is really sad
I’m all for eating meat, I am a steak loving American after all, but let’s not kid ourself. Animals are decent folks, they’re nicer and more respectable than most people. We should at least give the animals we eat a humane life on a nice farm before we slaughter them for their meaty goodness.
I know most of you are epic gamers who hate vegans because luls, but it’s sad to see the animals we eat so depressed in those dirty cages, they should at least have a nice field they can enjoy. If you spent even a single day with a happy farm animal, you’ll know what I mean.
How do you define "nice and respectable".
@@Laroac open field, nutritious meals, quick death
I agree. However ppl are mostly just shitting on batshit crazy vegans.
The female vegan reminds me of the vegan karen from tiktok lmaoooo i cant
4:14 if our ancestor's didn't kill, if our ancestor's didn't begin cooking meat. We wouldn't be what we are today, we wouldn't exist.
Today, unfortunately, we've killed SO MANY animals, many species have started to become endangered, even extinct. However besides that, the sad story of life is for one to survive another will die. All life consumes, is dependent, on something else. Whether it be a gas, plant life, meats etc... it's inherently how life operates.
Humans eating psychedelic shrooms during the search for food established new connections in our brains... the meat eating allowed these new connections to be sustainable by providing way more nutrients than plants could give us.
Without meat-eating, we would still be monkeys right now. : /
it is solely due to omnivorous humans, that these Vegans are even ABLE to morally grandstand about their Veganism, lmao.
But hey, veganism is just an eating disorder, so who cares? :P
"Why should I love my neighbour and not eat my neighbour" that's called cannibalism dude
Did you know, you can eat healthy food while not being vegan, eggs, milk and meat are amazing sources of nutrients
yeah but they "cause suffering to the poor helpless animals"
There aren't as many health food options in the hood because healthy food costs more money and generally speaking those in the hood would rather buy extremely cheap food so that they could use the excess money on scratch tickets liquor and menthols.
I don't get why'd they get so edgy people to represent one side just get some actual knowledgeable person on the show
have you never watched any of their videos before?
@@g76agi I watch every reaction video of x
Jubilee's always been like this and to be fair this isn't good when you actually have good reasons and the guy representing is spilling garbage...
@@Xrossbot dont care about jubilee videos, people that unironically base their opinions with those videos probably arent even worth trying to explain whatever you have to explain, just look at it as entertainment
6:55 mouth moving faster than light speed
"i LOOOOOVE animals!!!" *proceeds to pay someone to abuse, torture and kill animals* Pepelaugh
Peta. I remember back in the day they used to kidnap perfectly happy and healthy pets of people's homes and the euthinize those same pets. Disgusting "human" beings.
@@tahmkench118 As far as I know, that only happened once, with some girl's dog. Still fucked.
Also they put 50 lobsters into fresh water, which killed them.
@@mastegoh7139 "once" Clueless
@@Rin-sj8ii Surely PETA is actually working for animal rights
@@mastegoh7139- PETA's policy is that its better to euthanize animals than let them live in the wild or the city
This was so weird when the person mentioned how they had to be 'aware' that they are in mountain lion territory when hiking. Even if you are aware of the region you are hiking in, are you not going to defend yourself if you are confronted by the specie? Are you just gonna let the lion eat you alive without any obstacle nor resistance? Even if you are not aware of the region you are hiking in, will you apply that this lion is superior to you and; therefore, eat you alive?
Now he is saying that he would feel awful about defending himself successfully because the specie happened to be a mountain lion. If this specie was another human being and he needed to do self-defense, let's see how he would react since this should be on the level of defending himself against a mountain lion.
honestly i dont care if people have that mentality its just natural selection at that point
@@bub7358 Fax!!! 💯
I mean we are Omnivores so I really doesn’t matter meat or plants
Ah yes xQc the frog does eat the squirrel 😭😭
most sane vegans
Wait the editor changed the title OMEGALUL NO SHOT
this girl looks exactly like you imagine a vegan lgbtqhdtv to look like 😂😂😂
Ate a nice fat burrito while watching this
Healthier life is indeed expensive or cost more than eating what in front of you. People think if they became vegan they will live longer or they are healthier as the girl in the video, but that's totally wrong, you can still eat ice cream and live longer than 43 years. The question is what is a healthy meal? It's a meal that contains perfect percentage depending on what the body needs like protein, carb and so on. You can eat what your body needs with no extra or less and that is a healthy life, that goes for everything that the body needs. It's not like someone eat meat then a vegan person is healthier. If his body needs 100gm protein then he can eat meat which is equivalent to 100gm protein, with no extra fat or salt or whatever you cook with.
except we're not cavemen anymore, and most people eat for the taste of food, if you gave someone a perfect amount of meat 3 times a day with no salt or fat or whatever, just one piece of meat, and them offer them a pizza of course theyre gonna get the pizza, but if you offer them like steak with sauce and mashed potatoes, well, theyre gonna go for the steak..... and then the pizza
@@g76agi you misunderstood what I meant, I'm not eating healthy food, I'm just saying what healthy food is. And proving for vegan who say "I'm vegan, I'm healthy" that you can be healthy when you are vegan and when you aren't, and it's more expensive to do that. I need the juice man, I'm talking about some meat greas, that's how I eat.
Ps: I said with no "extra" fat or any other ingredients, just balance it, not without fat at all ofc.
@@g76agi you misunderstood his comment
is that a fucking charmander 4:52
"it is NOT more expensive! that is a myth!"
"Capitalism makes veganism more expensive!"
Can you believe these 2 statements were made by the same person, and within 1 minute of eachother?
I shall go on a hike today. Oh a mountain lion, surely if I don't defend myself nothing bad will happen.
Cluless surely
Vegans really love their moral high ground.
You can't convince them otherwise no matter if their life is at stake.
And remember! Tye humber one rule about Vegan club is to walways talk about vegan club.
To be fair almost every political ideology/religious belief/pseudoscientific group is based around being "smarter and better" than the opposition.
@@mastegoh7139 Level headed/non-partisan take ✋🤢
@@mastegoh7139
You're ignoring the deadly path vegans are taking to just avoid killing or eating animals.
It's not just the moral aspect I'm talking about.
Meat eaters really love completely ignoring their destructive and compassionless ways that ruin lives.
This global pandemic is all due to humans eating flesh.
Veganism can easily solve world hunger, yet meat eaters refuse to give up corpses.
And Vegans apparently don't give a shit about human lives? 🙄
6:12 "Even the animals dont think like that" lol
Oh god videos with vegans on the internet are always so cringe inducing. I know a lot of people who don't eat meat and it's never something you know about them until you're looking for a place to eat dinner with them. I actually don't know how Jubilee even finds these extreme and ridiculous people
by extreme and ridiculous maybe that just refers to people living in LA lol
@@nqqthing What did you expect? LA is full of mentally damaged people...
My brain goes into airplane mode when ever he watches these types of videos
Being Vegan, having the choice able to plan and afford food that is generally more expensive is a privilege no matter how you look at it.
bro im pretty sure most of the world can plan what theyre gonna eat, unless youre in some village in like somalia
I want to see a lower class American kid ask his parents to buy vegan ingredients. They'll come back from the store with a can of green beans. I genuinely want to know how many "lifelong" vegans were born into wealthier families.
you really don’t have to be wealthy or privileged to buy plant based food, it’s some of the cheapest out there and there’s really no need to buy all the processed stuff like imitation meat or fake cheese which are probably the expensive foods you’re thinking about
2:22 Wanna know what a food chain is? Go 1v1 a bear or a lion and you'll see
Why do all vegans look the same
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i dont look like that, i think its mostly white vegans no offense
I swear it's an oblivion npc dialogue with these vegans
Is that girl ok?
must be something she ate...or didnt eat..
Objectively Human is as valuable as much as he contributes, no animal can contribute as much as any normal human can.
I like how they always say vegan = long life. Ive never heard of the oldest people on earth ever being lifetime vegan. Until the oldest person on earth is a lifetime vegan, then eating meat = longest life EZ clap
True, but I believe fish is overall more healthy than meat
That vegan girl is definitely a hasan viewer
"It does not cost more money to be vegan."
Right. Tell that to my vegan track teammate who was severely underweight and passed out during practices because her family couldn't afford the cost of a vegan diet while she was running track.
He said he would feel awful if he killed a mountain lion but not if he killed a human being that he doesn't know how about the lion he doesn't know it either so why feel awful about it but can kill a human